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I don't think a lot of people care [04:13] schestowitz [23:51] I've been in tech for xxxxxxx years. The sexual harassment never stops [04:13] schestowitz [23:51] my wife can tell [04:13] schestowitz [23:51] like a colleague of mine staring at her [04:13] schestowitz [23:51] she didn't tell me until years later [04:13] schestowitz [23:52] oh god, I had an xxxxx year old employee invite me to an orgy when I was xxxx [04:13] schestowitz [23:52] I got fired of course [04:13] schestowitz [23:52] Microsoft did the same [04:13] schestowitz [23:52] sort of [04:13] schestowitz [23:53] e.g. http://techrights.org/2010/02/07/microsoft-orgies-and-drugs/ and http://techrights.org/2010/01/28/new-microsoft-hooker-scandal/ [04:13] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | Microsoft Refuses to Comment About (Deny) the Sex Parties, Drug Use | Techrights [04:13] schestowitz [23:53] well, you've probably seen the Apple website [04:13] schestowitz [23:53] which site? [04:13] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | Microsoft Corporation: Sex, Drugs, and Corruption | Techrights [04:13] schestowitz [23:55] the one collecting all the harassment stories [04:13] schestowitz [23:56] I did not see that [04:13] schestowitz [23:56] https://appletoo.us/ [04:13] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-appletoo.us | #AppleToo [04:13] schestowitz [23:56] looks like they took the stories down [04:13] schestowitz [23:57] https://twitter.com/ashleygjovik she's been pretty vocal [04:13] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes- ( status 400 @ https://mobile.twitter.com/ashleygjovik ) [04:13] schestowitz [23:59] the sad thing is [04:13] schestowitz [23:59] some people self-vanish [04:13] schestowitz [23:59] I had such a case last week [04:13] schestowitz [23:59] someone asked not to be named [04:13] schestowitz [23:59] because of peer pressure [04:13] schestowitz [00:00] I'm not 100% ready to exit, but I haven't been working and focusing on investments. [04:13] schestowitz [00:00] It's made the pressure easier [04:13] schestowitz [00:01] well, this stuff needs daylight [04:13] schestowitz [00:01] Not sure if they'll let me back in at this point [04:13] schestowitz [00:01] thank you for relaying so much info [04:13] schestowitz [00:02] I've just opened my email [04:13] schestowitz [00:02] I will not respond by email for privacy reasons [04:13] schestowitz [00:03] understood. glad I found this channel [04:13] schestowitz [00:05] you might want to get some context [04:13] schestowitz [00:05] and understand the past of Mono [04:13] schestowitz [00:06] we wrote 32,000 blog posts almost [04:13] schestowitz [00:06] it's hard to tidy it all up, the wiki can help a bit [04:14] schestowitz [00:06] sure, I might see some names I recognize [04:14] schestowitz [00:08] http://techrights.org/2013/02/09/tombye/ http://techrights.org/2009/05/01/gnote-vs-tomboy-test/ [04:14] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | Canonical Neglects Tomboy (Mono) | Techrights [04:14] schestowitz [00:09] http://techrights.org/2009/04/21/tomboy-is-afraid-of-gnote/ [04:14] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | Gnote is a Lot Faster and a Lot Lighter Than Tomboy | Techrights [04:14] schestowitz [00:09] http://techrights.org/2009/06/02/fedora-removes-mono-dependant/ [04:14] schestowitz [00:09] http://techrights.org/2009/04/07/tomboy-on-c-plus-plus/ [04:14] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | Tomboy is Afraid of Gnote, Its Mono-free Sibling | Techrights [04:14] schestowitz [00:10] http://techrights.org/2009/04/23/gnote-releases-version-020/ [04:14] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | Red Hat Replaces Tomboy with Gnote, Removes Mono Dependency | Techrights [04:14] schestowitz [00:10] http://techrights.org/2009/06/12/mono-and-moonlight-winforms/ [04:14] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | Did Tomboy Learn from TomTom? Project Forked, Moves Away from Microsoft Standards | Techrights [04:14] schestowitz [00:10] and so on [04:14] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | Announcement: Mono-Free Tomboy Replacement (Gnote) Releases Version 0.2.0 | Techrights [04:14] schestowitz [00:10] oh yeah... I do have this message where Alex calls Tomboy his life's work [04:14] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | In Fedora, Tomboy and Banshee Depend on Winforms | Techrights [04:14] schestowitz [00:10] those are old [04:14] schestowitz [00:10] the site was a lot younger back then [04:14] schestowitz [00:10] now we do deeper investigations [04:14] schestowitz [00:10] seems like Friedman set him him for richness [04:14] schestowitz [00:11] by funnelling Microsoft shareholders' money [04:14] schestowitz [00:11] make this company [04:14] schestowitz [00:11] do this thing [04:14] schestowitz [00:11] I will tell my bosses (CEO of a 'slave' company of Microsoft) [04:14] schestowitz [00:11] and we'll give you lots of shares [04:14] schestowitz [00:11] maybe securities fraud [04:14] schestowitz [00:11] he instructs the employer to pay an old mate [04:14] schestowitz [00:12] "Or the times I was robbed of my lifes work and the millions of dollars that went with it?" [04:14] schestowitz [00:12] tomboy as software is junk [04:14] schestowitz [00:12] nothing special about it [04:14] schestowitz [00:12] which makes sense [04:14] schestowitz [00:12] high school dropout [04:14] schestowitz [00:12] "I know pain. I know it real well." [04:14] schestowitz [00:12] I've seen his code [04:14] schestowitz [00:13] very procedural [04:14] schestowitz [00:13] gnote rewroite it in beter language [04:14] schestowitz [00:13] he mocks you gfor JS [04:14] schestowitz [00:13] like Mono is something special [04:14] schestowitz [00:13] it's crap [04:14] schestowitz [00:13] I'm a solid programmer [04:14] schestowitz [00:13] I have other ambitions [04:14] schestowitz [00:14] his whole program was RE-written as a hobby [04:14] schestowitz [00:14] in C++ [04:14] schestowitz [00:14] and then it run MUCH faster [04:14] schestowitz [00:14] details in the above links [04:14] schestowitz [00:14] "He is so insecure" "Full of doubts and strong opinions" "Fun to be around, but also very self destructive" [04:14] schestowitz [00:14] -Miguel on Alex [04:15] schestowitz [00:15] ha [04:15] schestowitz [00:15] "Please ignore his angry rants. Nobody is a real@programmer, he is trying to hurt you" [04:15] schestowitz [00:15] re " I've sent you an email regarding Nat Friedman. I'd love to discuss it with you. " [04:15] schestowitz [00:15] It's controlled by Microsoft [04:15] schestowitz [00:15] like many women, I write easy to read code that is well organized and get underestimated for it [04:15] schestowitz [00:16] any interaction on their platform will be leveraged by them [04:15] schestowitz [00:16] they spy on me [04:15] schestowitz [00:16] email and "social" (control) media works against its users [04:15] schestowitz [00:16] yeah, I saw you said you don't use linkedin after [04:15] schestowitz [00:17] some find out when it's too late to undo [04:15] schestowitz [00:18] Based on his code, Alex is the kind of engineer that doesn't understand easy to read doesn't mean it's simple [04:15] schestowitz [00:18] yeah [04:15] schestowitz [00:18] like I said, sse what "fig" did [04:15] schestowitz [00:19] he rewrote the whole program [04:15] schestowitz [00:19] in another language [04:15] schestowitz [00:19] C++ [04:15] schestowitz [00:19] the technical improvements were vast [04:15] schestowitz [00:19] alex is insecure but (now) well connected [04:15] schestowitz [00:19] I suspect that Alex and Nat share darker secrets [04:15] schestowitz [00:20] ask around [04:15] schestowitz [00:20] they know my name [04:15] schestowitz [00:21] and would not divulge any info to me [04:15] schestowitz [00:21] miguel might [04:15] schestowitz [00:22] I don't even understand why Alex is working. His net worth in BTC is around $200m [04:15] schestowitz [00:22] if that was at all the truth [04:15] schestowitz [00:26] it's fake [04:15] schestowitz [00:27] I always laugh at those [04:15] schestowitz [00:36] seemed reasonable. I'm not special and have some [04:15] schestowitz [00:37] I know this other guy that's living in a bus and is secretly quite wealthy from crypto [04:15] schestowitz [00:37] I've known him longer and he has no reason to lie to me about it b/c he's gay [04:15] schestowitz [00:38] But in regards to Github, the Github hate community has already been in touch on twitter [04:15] schestowitz [00:38] mostly in regard to the ICE stuff [04:15] schestowitz [00:48] back with coffee [04:15] schestowitz [00:49] GitHub does worse than ICE [04:15] schestowitz [00:49] Also see http://techrights.org/2021/04/04/microsoft-nationalism/ [04:15] schestowitz [00:50] daemonfc is gay btw [04:15] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | Microsoft: Nationalism As A Service (NaaS) | Techrights [04:15] schestowitz [00:50] just to add some context in there... [04:15] schestowitz [00:56] ok lol [04:15] schestowitz [00:56] otherwise you might find him offensive, without knowing this... [04:15] schestowitz [00:57] he helped us a low when we exposed the Gates home arrest [04:16] schestowitz [00:57] maybe you never heard that [04:16] schestowitz [00:57] media suppressed that [04:16] schestowitz [00:57] yeah something with some prostitutes [04:16] schestowitz [00:57] we got 2,900 pages from Seattle Police [04:16] schestowitz [00:57] no, arrest for pedophilia [04:16] schestowitz [00:58] I saw something about it when the divorce was in the news [04:16] schestowitz [00:58] oh... ok [04:16] schestowitz [00:58] interesting [04:16] schestowitz [00:58] one of dozens of parts: http://techrights.org/2020/08/06/gates-eng-police-search/ [04:16] schestowitz [00:58] we have all the police records [04:16] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | Release: Several Police Reports About Searching the Home of Bill Gates Engineer (Stockpiles of Child Pornography Found Along With Illegal Firearm) | Techrights [04:16] schestowitz [00:58] That clip of him squirming in an interview when someone asked him about meeting with Epstein [04:16] schestowitz [00:59] "" [04:16] schestowitz [00:59] more recent: http://techrights.org/wiki/Gates_Foundation_Critique#2021 [04:16] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | Gates Foundation Critique - Techrights [04:16] schestowitz [00:59] "well, he's dead" *folds hands sheepishly* [04:16] schestowitz [00:59] he might be next in line for FBI after 'prince' Andrew [04:16] schestowitz [01:00] reports said he had fainted [04:16] schestowitz [01:00] when this came out https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/12/business/jeffrey-epstein-bill-gates.html [04:16] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.nytimes.com | Bill Gates Met With Jeffrey Epstein Many Times, Despite His Past - The New York Times [04:16] schestowitz [01:00] it's also when his wife approached the divorce lawyers [04:16] schestowitz [01:00] they use RMS as a decoy: [04:16] schestowitz [01:00] http://techrights.org/2019/12/21/police-report-bill-gates/ [04:16] schestowitz [01:01] http://techrights.org/2020/07/16/gates-press-sunset/ [04:16] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | Mansion of Pedophilia Part II: Dr. Stallman Defamed in the Media One Day After Request Made for King County Sheriffs Office to Divulge Information About Pedophilia in Home of Bill Gates | Techrights [04:16] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | The Gates Press (GatesGate) Part VI: Sunsetting for Now | Techrights [04:16] schestowitz [01:01] media suppression example [04:16] schestowitz [01:02] I know my twitter writing is terrible, but this thread might be helpful [...] [04:16] schestowitz [01:05] it just makes me said that the only joy in life these people have is exploiting others [04:16] schestowitz [01:06] ewwww [04:16] schestowitz [01:07] yeah...it's hard to explain how I let all this slide [04:16] schestowitz [01:08] the nature of gaslighting [04:16] schestowitz [01:08] yeah [04:16] schestowitz [01:08] this isn't some sort of racist group is it? [04:16] schestowitz [01:08] I'm all for open source stuff, but I'm not into this reverse racism stuff [04:16] schestowitz [01:09] daemonfc? [04:16] schestowitz [01:09] he's a league of his own and I constantly tell him not to do it [04:16] schestowitz [01:09] he thinks his gayness makes it acceptable [04:16] schestowitz [01:09] him and Alex have something in common [04:16] schestowitz [01:09] many of us put him on mute [04:16] schestowitz [01:10] inclduing me [04:16] schestowitz [01:11] when you get to use a native irc client, mute him [04:16] schestowitz [01:11] yes lol [04:16] schestowitz [01:11] we only censor if people make threats [04:16] schestowitz [01:11] which is rare [04:17] schestowitz [01:12] that's our policy [04:17] schestowitz [01:12] notice nobody replies to him [04:17] schestowitz [01:12] I will say Alex and I got into this bizarre debate about what it means to be a libertarian [04:17] schestowitz [01:13] ah...libertarians... [04:17] schestowitz [01:13] a bit of a cult [04:17] schestowitz [01:13] macho and pseudo-machos [04:17] schestowitz [01:13] I have some of my own origin story there, but I've distanced myself from the label [04:17] schestowitz [01:13] in a moment I'll wash away the nonsense from ryan (daemon) [04:17] schestowitz [01:14] I finish my work shift in 2 mins [04:17] schestowitz [01:14] anyways, Nat also considers himself a libertarian [04:17] schestowitz [01:15] he tweets about Austrian econ sometimes [04:17] schestowitz [01:15] I suspect he's related to the seasteading guy Patri Friedman [04:17] schestowitz [01:16] but Alex thinks that being a libertarian means you can say whatever you want and nobody can get offended [04:17] schestowitz [01:16] and getting offending is a free speech restriction [04:17] schestowitz [01:17] Austrians do have a reputation for this [04:17] schestowitz [01:17] Mises etc. [04:17] schestowitz [01:17] Kinsella is one that I follow [04:17] schestowitz [01:17] but some are too k00ky to me [04:17] schestowitz [01:17] scapegoating "big gov" [04:17] schestowitz [01:17] yeah... but those guys are all polite [04:17] schestowitz [01:17] I still trust govs more than corporations [04:17] schestowitz [01:17] or corporations-dominated govs [04:17] schestowitz [01:18] generally. some are assholes [04:17] schestowitz [01:18] you cannot vote out corporations [04:17] schestowitz [01:18] can you vote out politicians? [04:17] schestowitz [01:18] sometimes [04:17] schestowitz [01:18] who enforces the patents? [04:17] schestowitz [01:21] I hardly care anymore. I mostly just want to be able to live my life without someone trying to ruin me because I won't fuck them [04:17] schestowitz [01:22] hacker culture in the coding sense focuses more on engineering [04:17] schestowitz [01:22] sounds like alex was just a nutjob of sorts [04:17] schestowitz [01:23] so he compensated with connection and faking it "till you make it" [04:17] schestowitz [01:23] like the bitcoin charlatan thing [04:17] schestowitz [01:23] regarding patents, we write a lot on this subject [04:17] schestowitz [01:24] as impediment to all programmers [04:17] schestowitz [01:24] not just free software coders [04:17] schestowitz [01:24] I'm familiar with Kinsella's writings on the matter [04:17] schestowitz [01:24] ah, good [04:17] schestowitz [01:24] I follow his blog, he knows me... [04:17] schestowitz [01:25] but he became less relevant in recent years [04:17] schestowitz [01:25] but libertarian spaces are not for women or POC [04:18] schestowitz [01:25] frankly, the racists got a lot louder about 8 years ago [04:18] schestowitz [01:25] http://techrights.org/2010/05/15/stephan-kinsella-on-swpats/ http://techrights.org/2010/06/19/against-ipr/ [04:18] schestowitz [01:26] yes, racists became "Great Again" [04:18] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | Famous IP Lawyer Argues Against Patent and Copyright Law (Video) | Techrights [04:18] schestowitz [01:26] and then racist corporations started pretending to be "Woke" [04:18] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | Stephan Kinsella: The Case Against Intellectual Property Rights | Techrights [04:18] schestowitz [01:26] while employing predators [04:18] schestowitz [01:26] yep [04:18] schestowitz [01:26] I'm kind of noticing a trend [04:18] schestowitz [01:27] seems like POC and being pitted against "white women" [04:18] schestowitz [01:27] white women are enemy #1 right now [04:18] schestowitz [01:27] it kind of looks like a disinformation campaign [04:18] schestowitz [01:28] not just white [04:18] schestowitz [01:28] like a white woman using her privilege to hurt a POC is one thing [04:18] schestowitz [01:29] But I keep hearing this theme that white women basically need to shut up about feminism until WOC have rights [04:18] schestowitz [01:29] btw [04:18] schestowitz [01:29] we wrote many things about those issues as well [04:18] schestowitz [01:30] it's a partisan and polarity issue [04:18] schestowitz [01:30] in rotting society, sectarian conflict is a thing [04:18] schestowitz [01:30] FB and Twitter inflame that [04:18] schestowitz [01:31] yeah... like the chapelle vs transwomen thing seems like a distraction [04:18] schestowitz [01:31] the special was bad. and he's wrong [04:18] schestowitz [01:32] yesterday I saw them weaponising these things against us [04:18] schestowitz [01:32] because someone in the channel mentioned it [04:18] schestowitz [01:32] I think daemon [04:18] schestowitz [01:32] and then miguel et al try to latch onto it to call us names [04:18] schestowitz [01:33] armchair activist that one [04:18] schestowitz [01:33] who? miguel? [04:18] schestowitz [01:33] miguel [04:18] schestowitz [01:33] opportunists who stabbed many backs [04:18] schestowitz [01:33] for personal gain [04:18] schestowitz [01:34] but yeah, I think Chapelle and transwomen have a common enemy [04:18] schestowitz [01:35] it's a bunch of disenfranchised groups fight over for the one chair on the table that's not reserved for white men [04:18] schestowitz [01:35] and depending on the table the connected white men [04:18] schestowitz [01:36] it's so weird a controversy to me [04:18] schestowitz [01:36] OWS is activism [04:18] schestowitz [01:36] this drama over a comedy skit? sigh. [04:18] schestowitz [01:37] Twitter props up phony issues [04:18] schestowitz [01:39] oh god, looking for the tweets you mentioned and someone's accusing Miguel of being in the closet [04:18] schestowitz [01:40] someone said this to me 15 years ago [04:18] schestowitz [01:40] not that I care [04:18] schestowitz [01:40] it's unrelated [04:19] schestowitz [01:41] his abuses are the focus [04:19] schestowitz [01:41] yeah, seems petty [04:19] schestowitz [01:41] also unfair to gay people [04:19] schestowitz [01:41] when it's used as an insult [04:19] schestowitz [01:41] and likely false imo [04:19] schestowitz [01:42] the only reason I brought Alex's comments up was he used it as a defense for saying something hurtful to lesbian friends of mine [04:19] schestowitz [01:45] :( [04:19] schestowitz [01:46] but, yeah... Miguel is very performative and it's annoying. [04:19] schestowitz [01:47] I don't think Nat pretends to care about human rights unless his employees are upset [04:19] schestowitz [01:51] grew up with money [04:19] schestowitz [01:51] learned to make more money [04:19] schestowitz [01:51] c.f. bill gates [04:19] schestowitz [01:51] Miguel is a class/career climber [04:19] schestowitz [01:51] social climber also [04:19] schestowitz [01:54] yeah... if Alex was ever honest with me at all, he seemed a bit envious of the world outside of that circle [04:19] schestowitz [01:55] because he's essentially a loser in that group [04:19] schestowitz [01:55] we went and looked at the Porsche 9/11 and he almost let out tears over not being able to afford it [04:19] schestowitz [01:56] btc was like 3K at the time. I was always super confused about his money situation [04:19] schestowitz [01:56] he had the fake mastercard blackcard [04:19] schestowitz [01:57] it's like $500 annual fee. I could have one if I felt like wasting money [04:19] schestowitz [01:58] some things he said, it sounded like they would bully him for dating someone like me seriously. it's very weird brand of toxic masculinity [04:19] DaemonFC schestowitz, Maybe they should mention to Miguel that they pretty much disappeared Hispanic/Latino people in the Super Bowl ads this year, as well as Asians. [04:19] schestowitz [01:59] I don't think Miguel personally feels that way but he looks the other way to fit in [04:19] schestowitz [02:00] <-- Source (~42443e0b@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has left this server (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client). [04:19] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-mibbit.com | Mibbit.com - Easy and fast Webchat in your browser [04:19] schestowitz [02:54] Hi, it's tomboy's ex again. I'm done for the night but thanks for hearing what I have to say. Personal ethics + exploiting software patents to concentrate power is a noble cause, and i get it. [04:19] schestowitz [02:54] thanks for returning [04:19] schestowitz [02:54] I thought I may have said something offensive [04:19] schestowitz [02:55] I finished my work shift [04:19] schestowitz [02:55] Closed my tab accidentally [04:19] schestowitz [02:55] didn't end up recording the video about switzerland [04:19] schestowitz [02:55] I don't think I've found anything offensive about techrights yet[02:56] I do worry because freedom oriented spaces tend to tolerate bigotry and misogyny [02:56] there are subtle way to handle these [04:19] schestowitz [02:56] within crushing people [04:19] schestowitz [02:57] <-- source (~xxxxxxxxxxxxxxd9tvs44uyg5y6.irc) has left this server (connection closed). [04:19] schestowitz [03:06] ping [04:19] schestowitz [03:08] <-- source (~xxxxxxxxxxxxxxd9tvs44uyg5y6.irc) has left this server (Ping timeout: 2m30s). [04:20] DaemonFC Nobody white, Hispanic, or Asian buys insurance or cars or opens credit card accounts anymore, or buys furniture, or goes on vacation, since 2020. [04:20] DaemonFC It's amazing, really. [04:21] DaemonFC We don't even drink soda. We've stopped cold. [04:21] DaemonFC It's amusing because if you know any Mexicans, you know how they knock back Cokes like it's going out of style. [04:21] DaemonFC Yet, they've been deleted from Coke and Pepsi ads. [04:22] schestowitz hmmm... [04:22] schestowitz but wait [04:22] schestowitz is this about race or class? [04:22] schestowitz not the same thing [04:22] schestowitz after the pandemic, which has not stopped BTW (!), we've not gone out much [04:23] schestowitz no gym, not much reason to hang out [04:23] schestowitz and masks make it less fun and things don't feel as safe anymore [04:24] DaemonFC The only things we do spend much money on anymore are healthcare, rent, utilities, car repair, insurance, and legal bills. [04:27] DaemonFC The cat will have an expensive vet bill coming up. [04:27] DaemonFC That dental cleaning and while she's under, I'm going to have them take that cyst off. [04:28] DaemonFC We're pretty sure it's just a cyst, but I want to have it removed now when it's just a "small growth". [04:28] DaemonFC Rather than find out it's something nasty and aggressive later. [04:39] schestowitz I see... [04:39] schestowitz well, that's a health bill [04:40] schestowitz not sure if they do pet insurance there [04:40] schestowitz if you have fish you wouldn't go to a vet [04:40] schestowitz unless it is a very special and dear fish ● Feb 15 [05:04] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Feb 15 [06:14] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [06:28] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #techbytes [06:28] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Feb 15 [07:15] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@vd4283mvfyqgk.irc) has joined #techbytes [07:31] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [07:32] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@tth4xr4rfyi6q.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Feb 15 [08:08] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Quit: Leaving) [08:08] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@i8gtth78frzk8.irc) has joined #techbytes [08:55] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Quit: Leaving) [08:55] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@vd4283mvfyqgk.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Feb 15 [09:52] *blitzed has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Feb 15 [11:32] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@gque3bc9xqygc.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Feb 15 [12:56] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@7hnksqkvhrvj2.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Feb 15 [13:20] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 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Okay, Im usually the kind of nice guy, trying to understand others, being always polite etc. But wth are you doing right now? Its the very first time since 12 years that Im using diaspora* that Im actually about to loose my calm. [19:47] schestowitz Why are you writing things like "The bottom line is, weve quite likely found a new podadmin ", even worse, publicly?! [19:47] schestowitz Where on earth did you read that Denis would take over joindiaspora? He wont, and joindiaspora will be closed, as planned. What the foundation (not only Denis, stop pointing one person when were a community) is offering right now, is to help Lukas fixing the bad state of joindiaspora so that exports can be made. As you understand from the discussion above, the state is so bad that it will take more that 15 days to do this, this is why Dennis [19:47] schestowitz said the closing wont be the 1st March. He is not saying at all that the close wont happen, nor that he is taking over as the new podmin. [19:47] schestowitz Seriously, you guys are pushing everyone to the limits right now Why are you speculating on everything? [19:47] schestowitz Fla [19:47] schestowitz Fla - about 6 hours ago [19:47] schestowitz Just to be clear, because Denis indeed proposed 3 years ago to take over joindiaspora: this offer isnt valid anymore. [19:47] schestowitz Fla [19:47] schestowitz Fla - about 6 hours ago [19:47] schestowitz @Doc Edward Morbius (defunct account) The change log is usually only for users, if you need more technical information check on github: https://github.com/diaspora/diaspora/releases/tag/v0.7.16.0 [19:47] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-github.com | Release diaspora* 0.7.16.0 diaspora/diaspora GitHub [19:47] schestowitz The changes to the format of the archive include the removal of the chat_enabled info, and the addition of blocked users ;) [19:47] schestowitz Salinger 3 [19:47] schestowitz Salinger 3 - about 4 hours ago [19:47] schestowitz Merci pour la clarificationHope they could fix it. [19:47] schestowitz Doc Edward Morbius [19:47] schestowitz Doc Edward Morbius - about 2 hours ago [19:47] schestowitz @Fla Please note that youve been tagging my old account (on Joindiaspora). Im generally using diaspora.glasswings.com these days. (Which Im using to write this.) Thats dredmorbius@diaspora.glasswings.com. Youll find acknowledgement of this move at my @Doc Edward Morbius (defunct account) (Joindiaspora) account user page. [19:47] schestowitz Your point on whos committed to what is well taken. Id not made the claim in question. [19:47] schestowitz Claritiy in communications and not making inaccurate or unsupported claims is a large part of what Im advocating from those involved here, and is why Ive been calling strongly for clear and regular statements as to status, even where that status is unknown. [19:47] schestowitz "Crisis communications" is a A Thing. Principles apply, even to Free Software and Federated Social Network projects. [19:47] schestowitz Doc Edward Morbius [19:47] schestowitz Doc Edward Morbius - about 2 hours ago [19:47] schestowitz @Fla @Dennis Schubert Theres a good nutshell guide to crisis communications in the sense I have in mind in this January 2022 interview with Zeynep Tufekci on pandemics as a communications emergency (NY Times). Edting lightly for clarity: [19:48] schestowitz [A] pandemic is a communication emergency. You have to be right. You have to be first. You have to be credible. [Y]ou have to be out there with the information and you have to be right about it. [That] could be we dont know. [The] idea is not that you [provide] false comfort to people. You say, all right, we got Omicron. It looks like antibody evading could probably cause breakthroughs. We dont know about severity. But here [19:48] schestowitz s what we need to do for the three different possibilities [19:48] schestowitz Those principles largely apply here: [19:48] schestowitz Provide regular updates. [19:48] schestowitz Provide accurate information. [19:48] schestowitz Address specific concerns. [19:48] schestowitz If the answer is we dont know, then say we dont know. [19:48] schestowitz Id suggest that the goal here should be for people to plan and execute effectively: [19:48] schestowitz Will I be able to continue using JoindiasporaCom? THE SAFEST ANSWER TO THIS QUESTION NOW IS NO, YOU CANNOT. [19:48] schestowitz Related: who will take over the Pod if it is to continue operation? Presently: nobody. [19:48] schestowitz If not, when should I move off the pod? THE SAFEST ANSWER IS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. [19:48] schestowitz How do I export my data? Use the Profile Settings /user/edit link. [19:48] schestowitz If I am unable to export my data, what assistance process is there? PRESENTLY: NONE. [19:48] schestowitz Will there be an attempt to publicly archive JoindiasporaCom? Ive tried to alert the ArchiveTeam about this, Ive yet to hear back. Theyd be interested in tools for effectively spidering the entire site, and potential pitfalls which might occur. [19:48] schestowitz What happens to old content, and will it remain visible where its been federated, and interactive (new likes, comments, reshares) or not? Im unsure of this, though suspect non-deleted data will remain visible but cannot be interacted with. [19:48] schestowitz Based on the recent-actives, Im presuming that roughly 500 1,000 profiles are likely of interest to be preserved, though that count might go higher. Im presuming that most of the 300k or so accounts never had appreciable traffic. Some groups, such as the Internet Archive and Archive Team take a preserve everything approach, my own philosophy is somewhat more pragmatic. [19:48] schestowitz Theres a question of how the site will respond to heavy spidering, and whether or not a dump of public content and transfer to one of the Internet Archives Collections might be more appropriate. I raise this possibility. Given responses to date I doubt thats in the cards, but Im open to pleasant surprises. [19:48] schestowitz Ive stated my own actions in my planning comment above. [19:48] schestowitz I strongly encourage others now on JoindiapsoraCom to do likewise: [19:48] schestowitz Create a new Diaspora* or Fediverse profile elsewhere, immediately. [19:48] schestowitz Announce this from your current JoindiasporaCom profile, both in posts and in your profile biography. [19:48] schestowitz If you can export data, do so. If not hope for the best but anticipate that those data will be lost. (Regular backups and archives are useful for a reason) [19:48] schestowitz Reconnect with your followers. Thats a fairly manual process, but in most cases goes smoothly. [19:48] schestowitz Continue on with life. [19:48] schestowitz On data archival, tools to automate external extracts from Joindiaspora* might prove useful and Ill look into that possibility myself. A challenge is that basic site functionality requires Javascript, so that simple web-scraping approaches dont quite work. [19:48] schestowitz Tilting at windmills is a great deal of fun, and I engage in this myself. Sometimes we simply need to do the needful, however, and focus on what can be accomplished, and do all we can to accomplish that. Recognise when you must let go of things, and then let go of them. [19:48] schestowitz Dennis Schubert [19:48] schestowitz Dennis Schubert - about 2 hours ago [19:48] schestowitz Folks, chill. The diaspora* projects core team is actively engaging, and we will make sure that nobody will loose access to their data. [19:48] schestowitz At the moment, there are no details to be announced because were still working things out. We will announce the plans as soon as they are ready. We dont need any help with funding or anything else. If there is any input from yall required, we will explicitly ask for that via a channel you will not miss. [19:48] schestowitz Dont worry about the March 1st timeline - even if our preparations are not done by then, everything will be fine. Please refrain from spamming Lukas, me, or anyone else. That doesnt make things go any faster. [19:48] schestowitz Make yourself a hot chocolate or something and relax. [19:48] schestowitz That is all I have to say at this point in time. [19:48] schestowitz Stop mentioning me, youre starting to get on my nerves. As I said multiple times already, there will be an update once there is something to update. And as also said multiple times, I am not going to engage in any kind of speculation about what might happen until the team knows what will happen. [19:48] schestowitz Doc Edward Morbius [19:48] schestowitz Doc Edward Morbius - 21 minutes ago [19:48] schestowitz Those who dont care to be mentioned can probably help the situation by not mentioning that they dont care to be mentioned. Were aware youll check back on Saturday, and really, unless something absolutely explodes, that is fine and sufficient. [19:48] schestowitz They might also consider potential enhancements for Diaspora* itself which make such crisis communications more viable and less annoying. [19:48] schestowitz This is in fact a crisis, and theres going to be a lot of communication and discussion. Much of it will be noisy. The point is to minimise the pain around this point. [19:48] schestowitz During the peak of the Google+ exodus, in which I also played an informational role, I was seeing upwards of 200 notifications per site on Diaspora*, Google+, and Reddit, per day. Yeah, that got a bit old. [19:49] schestowitz My approach was to note (usually in a post to my profile) when Id hit saturation and simply cleared out notifications, declaring notification bankruptcy. I also made heavy use of Diaspora*'s ability to clear by type of notification. Likes, reshares, and comments arent so important, direct mentions I would at least try to take a look. [19:49] schestowitz I suspect Diaspora*'s design intent is not as a crisis communications tool. Design intent and actual use frequently diverge. See Desire Paths. [19:49] schestowitz And to be clear: no response is expected or necessary. [19:49] schestowitz " [19:49] schestowitz https://joindiaspora.com/posts/22282896 [19:49] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@podmin@joindiaspora.com: # Hello JoinDiaspora there is some unfortunate news to share. Feneas will be dissolved and as Joindiaspora is one of the services. JD will also be shut down on 1 March. This is unless we can find someone who wants to take over the service. If you think you can handle the task please contact us via [hq@feneas.org](mailto:hq@feneas.org). You can find the original post below or via https://git.feneas.org/feneas/ [19:49] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> git.feneas.org | meetings/agm-minutes-2021-12-09.txt master Feneas / association GitLab [19:49] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> git.feneas.org | meetings/agm-minutes-2022-01-04.txt master Feneas / association GitLab [19:49] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> git.feneas.org | Feneas GitLab [19:50] schestowitz Tony MacDonell (@tmtek): ""Most Tweeters don't post things like this"??? Which dataset is this AI working off of? All I see is posts like this on here =)" | nitter https://nitter.eu/tmtek/status/1493614411180920835 #nitter | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/15/#latest [19:50] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-nitter.eu | Tony MacDonell (@tmtek): ""Most Tweeters don't post things like this"??? Which dataset is this AI working off of? All I see is posts like this on here =)" | nitter [19:50] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [19:52] schestowitz https://twitter.com/Gonzalo_VC23/status/1493292523552452617 [19:52] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Gonzalo_VC23: @schestowitz Money ruins everything [19:52] schestowitz https://twitter.com/JamesSm28954246/status/1493431817617043462 [19:52] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@JamesSm28954246: @schestowitz Biden is a neo-con and his backers need a justification for US military spending now that Afghanistan is over [19:53] schestowitz https://twitter.com/aral/status/1493478567824576513 [19:53] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@aral: @schestowitz Mozilla is so full of shit. [19:53] schestowitz https://twitter.com/aral/status/1493479715159658496\ [19:53] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@aral: @schestowitz No shit, Twitter. Tell me something I dont already know. https://t.co/Z9wh6ggNQc [19:53] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@aral: @schestowitz No shit, Twitter. Tell me something I dont already know. https://t.co/Z9wh6ggNQc [19:53] schestowitz https://twitter.com/lasombra_br/status/1493479964292829188 [19:53] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@lasombra_br: @aral @schestowitz You can only be passive agressive and dish veiled threats. Anything without nuance is out. :) [19:53] schestowitz https://twitter.com/Scott_Matter/status/1493483769193324549 [19:53] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Scott_Matter: @aral @schestowitz https://t.co/31cTA6CltZ [19:53] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-Failed connect to civility.ai:443; Operation now in progress ( status 0 @ https://civility.ai/ ) [19:53] schestowitz https://twitter.com/alanlangford_ca/status/1493485514732802049 [19:53] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@alanlangford_ca: @aral @schestowitz I bet I can say that Mozilla is full to the brim with excrement and not get a warning... 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