●● IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, March 15, 2024 ●● ● Mar 15 [00:08] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:08] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Mar 15 [01:21] schestowitz he reminds me of another persisten troll I (we/our team) had to deal with many years ago [01:21] schestowitz and that one time I had 5K spambots on my wiki [01:23] schestowitz 90% or more of the users in irc are known [01:23] schestowitz they will get voice [01:23] schestowitz even if they are not authenticated [01:23] schestowitz the rest -- probationary [01:23] schestowitz we dealt with similar abuse for years [01:23] schestowitz also k-line netblocks used by the abuser [01:23] schestowitz as for doxxing, report to the authorities [01:24] *jacobk has quit (Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.) ● Mar 15 [02:05] *jacobk (~quassel@2yzyuedawr8pe.irc) has joined #techbytes [02:08] *jacobk has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:24] schestowitz How are new users going to report problems with the website if they don't get voice? [02:24] schestowitz And if you k-line netblocks then a spammer can get large parts of the internet banned automatically. [02:48] schestowitz How are new users going to report problems with the website if they don't get voice? [02:48] schestowitz And if you k-line netblocks then a spammer can get large parts of the internet banned automatically. [02:48] schestowitz it is a _temporary_ tradeoff when people exploit your openness to break in and vandalise ● Mar 15 [03:10] schestowitz When does it stop? [03:10] schestowitz when RoI is low ● Mar 15 [04:46] *jacobk (~quassel@32hz32it3ih2k.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Mar 15 [05:56] schestowitz When does it stop? [05:56] schestowitz when RoI is low [05:56] schestowitz When return on investment is low? [05:56] schestowitz I don't understand what that has to do with irc or users giving feedback on the website. [05:56] schestowitz Sorry if I'm being dense but I'm just a news reader and submitter who likes to type to other people on the internet. [05:56] schestowitz This isn't a channel for reporting though [05:56] schestowitz the trolls does classic "poison the mind" [05:56] schestowitz *troll [05:56] schestowitz that's the RoI [05:56] schestowitz one person doing /ignore is ignoring the issue [05:56] schestowitz speaking from personal experience here... [05:56] schestowitz * Julian (~Julian@74.63.ssl.wnj) has joined #governance [05:56] schestowitz chromas: Right I was speaking in general. [05:56] schestowitz I thought that's what the discussion was about. [05:56] schestowitz We could +rm all the chans except for #help and #soylent though ● Mar 15 [07:43] schestowitz This IS the channel that most people come to when they want to report problems. This is the one that the various documents refer to as the place to gather when the site goes down. [07:43] schestowitz chromas, I see no problem with +rm on every channel except for this one, #governance and #help, but that will not solve any perceived problems. I don't know who we are supposed to report an anonymous spammer who is switching VPNs to - so that suggestion is not going to fly at all. I don't have a problem with spammers here. Most people know who he is and are not affected by what he says. [07:52] schestowitz anrinok> damn - I printed those comments on the WRONG channel. This is for discussions on Governance. [07:52] schestowitz * kolie has quit (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in) [07:52] schestowitz * kolie (~kolie@208.91.qqu.m) has joined #governance [07:52] schestowitz janrinok: thanks for taking the time to respond [07:52] schestowitz regardless of your feelings on the matter, the methods will be: [07:52] schestowitz upset the most critical or productive person [07:52] schestowitz like NCommander in the old days [07:52] schestowitz then move on to the next... and the next after that [07:52] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-wiki.znc.in | ZNC ● Mar 15 [08:02] schestowitz there is NO simple solution. The effort required cannot be justified. There are alternative ways of defeating this problem. I have to say that discussing it in public is NOT helping matters. [08:02] schestowitz We are already receiving submissions - probably from the spammer - quoting YOUR comments here on IRC. [08:02] schestowitz You are being accused of being another spammer. [08:02] schestowitz that'sthe cost of tacklign the issue [08:02] schestowitz We can always discuss this in a PM [08:02] schestowitz in the long run [08:02] schestowitz My first priority is the site itself, not IRC. [08:02] schestowitz i know [08:02] schestowitz I am not discussing it further here. It is the wrong channel, and it is not helping us. [08:02] schestowitz thanks, i will respect this wishh [08:02] schestowitz PM me if you wish [08:37] schestowitz "Why a TikTok ban wouldnt make social media safer" [08:37] schestowitz x https://www.vox.com/technology/24100104/banning-tiktok-us-senate-ineffective-and-harmful-bill [08:37] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-Why a TikTok ban wouldnt make social media safer - Vox ● Mar 15 [09:38] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@u8ftxtfux23wk.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Mar 15 [10:07] *parsifal (~parsifal@uuar9r28yasyu.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Mar 15 [11:04] schestowitz
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