●● IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, July 17, 2023 ●● ● Jul 17 [01:00] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:00] *asusbox has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:17] schestowitz Linux Foundation $2.5 million contractor [01:17] schestowitz > Hi, Ray. Not sure if this is something everyone is already aware of [01:17] schestowitz > already, but the contractor, Proxima Systems appears to have operated [01:17] schestowitz > out of only one address (the one on Linux Foundation's 2021 tax form) [01:17] schestowitz > since November 2019, and that address is a home address. [01:17] schestowitz Hi, Roy. Sorry I addressed you as Ray by mistake. [01:24] schestowitz > I can send photos of the home and the coworking space if that might be [01:24] schestowitz > of any use. I got permission to take a picture of the coworking space, [01:24] schestowitz > and I snapped a picture of the home without ever stepping onto the property. [01:24] schestowitz Very interesting! [01:24] schestowitz Yes, it would be useful to know and to show what it is. [01:24] schestowitz If you can send the photos, I guess the person who showed you around would know your identity, which I can hide. [01:24] schestowitz Regards, [01:24] schestowitz Here are photos of the coworking space and the mailing address of Proxima Systems. [01:26] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [01:34] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@h9w2ackdz5nh2.irc) has joined #techbytes [01:46] schestowitz "I think we are on a similar wavelength re: the Linux Foundation and I have already learned a lot from your collection of links. Do you think we could find a time to speak? [01:46] schestowitz I'm interested in a number of questions: [01:46] schestowitz * How did you become focused on the abuses/corruption of the LF? [01:46] schestowitz * Why do you think it has never really been written about in the mainstream technical press? [01:46] schestowitz * What responses have you received from the LF or its employees? [01:46] schestowitz * Can you direct me to any former employees who might be able to speak about the foundation and how it treats its employees? A place with lots of money and little outside scrutiny becomes ripe for workplace abuse and there is a high turnover at the foundation, from what I've heard. [01:46] schestowitz I've interviewed a person involved in making Linux work well with arm chips and they described a situation where Intel has an inside track and Linux isn't a fair playing field. Do you think this is the right way to expose the corruption -- pay to code -- system there? Intel vs. arm? [01:46] schestowitz I'm eager to tell this story -- it really speaks to the way the digital world works and look forward to getting your thoughts and suggestions." ● Jul 17 [03:05] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) [03:10] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techbytes [03:15] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techbytes [03:36] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techbytes [03:37] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techbytes [03:46] *rianne_ (~rianne@3stvfjh5iuw88.irc) has joined #techbytes [03:46] *asusbox (~rianne@3stvfjh5iuw88.irc) has joined #techbytes [03:56] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:56] *asusbox has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Jul 17 [04:13] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techbytes [04:17] *rianne_ (~rianne@3stvfjh5iuw88.irc) has joined #techbytes [04:18] *asusbox (~rianne@3stvfjh5iuw88.irc) has joined #techbytes [04:28] *asusbox has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [04:28] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [04:39] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techbytes [04:58] *asusbox (~rianne@3stvfjh5iuw88.irc) has joined #techbytes [04:58] *rianne_ (~rianne@3stvfjh5iuw88.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Jul 17 [05:09] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [05:09] *asusbox has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Jul 17 [08:04] *parsifal (~parsifal@aahfbjmj4hann.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Jul 17 [11:13] schestowitz https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1nzwl2yv#replies [11:13] schestowitz " [11:13] schestowitz Its a plan that weve seen before. [11:13] schestowitz US ingenuity to create something substantial like Azurecheck. [11:13] schestowitz Make sure it has a solid foothold and large market share..check. [11:13] schestowitz Run off the US talent and bring in the HB1s to take their place.in progress now. [11:13] schestowitz 11 hours ago by Anonymous [11:13] schestowitz | 1 reaction (+1/-0) [11:13] schestowitz Post ID: @4wiw+1nzwl2yv [11:13] schestowitz +1 [11:13] schestowitz Maybe his focus should be on making the cloud more secure, you know Chinese hackers worming their way in to hack the US government and all. Sort of a black eye for MS since we fought so hard to win the US gov bidding wars for cloud services. [11:13] schestowitz 20 hours ago by Anonymous [11:13] schestowitz | 1 reaction (+1/-0) [11:13] schestowitz Post ID: @4bez+1nzwl2yv [11:13] schestowitz +2 [11:13] schestowitz He has a vision, it just doesnt include you. It includes just enough United States workers to satisfy congress. [11:13] schestowitz " [11:13] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.thelayoff.com | Satya driving us to new heights. - post regarding Microsoft Corp. layoffs [11:35] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@u8ftxtfux23wk.irc) has joined #techbytes [11:48] *psydroid3 (~psydroid@u8ftxtfux23wk.irc) has joined #techbytes [11:49] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Jul 17 [12:08] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@u8ftxtfux23wk.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Jul 17 [17:29] *Despatche (~desp@njtakmk96ye48.irc) has joined #techbytes [17:50] *parsifal has quit (Quit: Leaving) [17:52] schestowitz http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2023/06/new-eba-referral-when-is-prior-use-of.html?showComment=1689506337996#c8114648843178883602 [17:52] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.com | New EBA referral: When is prior use of a product excluded from the prior art for lack of enablement? - The IPKat [17:52] schestowitz "So my argument is that, in a novelty analysis, the "enablement" criterion only rears its head when you assess, under Art. 54(1), whether prior art information is sufficient to allow the skilled person to carry out a method or to create a product that falls within the terms of the claim.

So if the prior art under Art. 54(2) includes not only information that was made available to the public but also products [17:52] schestowitz that were made available to the public, then "enablement" plays a role for information but not for products. A prior-art product already is a product, and under Art. 54(1) you just need to verify whether the product factually satisfies the limitations listed in the claim. Under Art. 54(2), the only question is whether the product was "made available", which is the case if it was put on sale (even if nobody ever bough [17:52] schestowitz t it).

Ultimately patent law is not about words but about the processes and objects that are protected. A claim outlines a collection of such processes and objects, and if one of them is in the prior art, then the claim is not new. A prior-art document is just words, but it makes available to the public the products and objects which the skilled person obtains by following the instructions given in the document. Here is where [17:52] schestowitz one naturally needs enablement." ● Jul 17 [18:15] schestowitz https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1nDiyuA7#replies [18:15] schestowitz "Indians are the biggest bootlickers you'll meet. They'll do anything to make you think they are western. They'll whiten their skin and put up Christmas trees. Many are already supporting Trump. What else do you need to do to be a modern Christian? [18:15] schestowitz The Chinese no longer need to come to here because their technological pace exceeds the US. [18:15] schestowitz 4 hours ago by Anonymous [18:15] schestowitz | no reactions [18:15] schestowitz Post ID: @1icx+1nDiyuA7 [18:15] schestowitz 0 [18:15] schestowitz These people are horrible. They have no soul; all they think about their own people. Just imagine how they treat people in their own country India. [18:15] schestowitz 13 hours ago by Anonymous [18:15] schestowitz | no reactions [18:15] schestowitz Post ID: @1owr+1nDiyuA7 [18:15] schestowitz 0 [18:15] schestowitz Time to move out the old guard and in with the new. Yes sir, time to shore up the replacements with training and wait 5+ years for them to get the experience and comfort level with the technology so that they can be at the same level that we are running off. [18:15] schestowitz There some forward thinking for you. [18:15] schestowitz " [18:15] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.thelayoff.com | 'Tough to write this with tears in eyes...' - post regarding Microsoft Corp. layoffs ● Jul 17 [20:13] *asusbox (~rianne@3stvfjh5iuw88.irc) has joined #techbytes [20:13] *rianne_ (~rianne@3stvfjh5iuw88.irc) has joined #techbytes