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[02:42] schestowitz[TR2] https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1k4nbcxza
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[02:43] schestowitz[TR2] "He's too ugly, my eyes are too sensitive to watch that thing.
[02:43] schestowitz[TR2] 1 day ago by Anonymous
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[02:43] schestowitz[TR2] @av
[02:43] schestowitz[TR2] McKinsey is like a tumor, it starts in one cell and it grows, grows and grows.
[02:43] schestowitz[TR2] Funny, how they never went public. Why?
[02:43] schestowitz[TR2] Protecting secrecy: They can maintain a high level of secrecy regarding its client lists and internal operations.
[02:43] schestowitz[TR2] Avoiding scrutiny: They can avoid the public pressure and accountability that comes with being public, which can be particularly useful given the controversial work it has done with clients like opi--d manufacturers.
[02:43] schestowitz[TR2] Examples are many, but here's a couple of big ones:
[02:43] schestowitz[TR2] McKinsey faced significant public backlash and paid a nearly $600 million settlement related to its work with op i oid manufacturers. Imagine if they were public?
[02:43] schestowitz[TR2] Revelations about the firm's large contracts with the French government during the COVID-19 pandemic also brought public scrutiny. Imagine if they were public?
[02:43] schestowitz[TR2] The firm has also settled claims in bankruptcy cases due to allegations of failing to make proper disclosures, leading to concerns about its candor and role in managing public funds. Imagine if they were public?
[02:43] schestowitz[TR2] However, many of their clients are public, and they are the ones that receive the scrutiny and suffer the implications.
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[02:44] schestowitz[TR2] https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1k5298cvr
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[02:44] schestowitz[TR2] "They have poisoned the culture up north just like they did here too.
[02:44] schestowitz[TR2] It's highly suspicious... what's going on.
[02:44] schestowitz[TR2] 13 hours ago by Anonymous
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[02:44] schestowitz[TR2] @as
[02:44] schestowitz[TR2] They tend to like to think that they are more "culturally refined" than us Americans.
[02:44] schestowitz[TR2] Now they are catching up and who knows, maybe they will end up admitting that we figured it out first, and there is a reason why we said what we said.
[02:44] schestowitz[TR2] BTW, everyone should be also paying attention to near-shoring trend. A lot of jobs are going not just East, but INCREASINGLY SOUTH. Hubs and investments from US businesses: Mexico, Argentina, Uruguay, Costa Rica and. Brazil.
[02:44] schestowitz[TR2] What's up with the 25% tariff to services? (HIRE ACT)
[02:44] schestowitz[TR2] Happening? Not happening? Does anyone know status?
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[02:45] schestowitz[TR2] https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1k57k4772
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[02:45] schestowitz[TR2] "https://www.thelayoff.com/post/@1a1+1k4nbcxza
[02:45] schestowitz[TR2] Everything they say and do is full of flaws and bad ethics.
[02:45] schestowitz[TR2] 13 hours ago by Anonymous
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[02:45] schestowitz[TR2] +5
[02:45] schestowitz[TR2] McKinsey is also responsible for the DEI garbage:
[02:45] schestowitz[TR2] Interesting short Reddit below:
[02:45] schestowitz[TR2] https://www.reddit.com/r/Layoffs/comments/1iml6me/mckinsey_normalized_layoffs_in_all_industries/
[02:45] schestowitz[TR2] Several studies tested McKinsey's "studies" and they found them to be inaccurate.
[02:45] schestowitz[TR2] https://www.wsj.com/finance/investing/diversity-was-supposed-to-make-us-rich-not-so-much-39da6a23
[02:45] schestowitz[TR2] (Paywall, so summarized with AI below)
[02:45] schestowitz[TR2] "Diversity Was Supposed to Make Us Rich. Not So Much."
[02:45] schestowitz[TR2] Wall Street Journal
[02:45] schestowitz[TR2] James Mackintosh
[02:45] schestowitz[TR2] The core points of the article and its context include:
[02:45] schestowitz[TR2] Challenging the McKinsey studies: The headline references influential 2015 research by the consulting firm McKinsey that suggested a link between corporate diversity and financial outperformance. Mackintosh's article and other academic work question the methodology and conclusions of the McKinsey research.
[02:45] schestowitz[TR2] Marketplace testing and recent findings: The article notes that since 2015, the idea that diversity directly leads to higher profits has been "tested in the fire of the marketplace and failed," with academics unable to replicate the findings. Subsequent research, like a University of Chicago study in 2024, found no statistically significant link between executive diversity and profitability in S&P 500 companies.
[02:45] schestowitz[TR2] 13 hours ago by Anonymous
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[02:45] schestowitz[TR2] @a2
[02:45] schestowitz[TR2] McKinsey is a skillless parasite
[02:45] schestowitz[TR2] if they disappeared tomorrow would soceity actually notice
[02:45] schestowitz[TR2] their one trick appears to be setting up plantations in third world countries
[02:45] schestowitz[TR2] which is really an old trick
[02:45] schestowitz[TR2] 19 hours ago by Anonymous
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[02:45] schestowitz[TR2] @OP
[02:45] schestowitz[TR2] McKinsey needs to go far, far, far away. First, they are responsible for helping develop China, which now became rogue. Now this.
[02:45] schestowitz[TR2] Sorry, but if you work for McKinsey (you in 3rd person), you are not nice.
[02:45] schestowitz[TR2] I really hope that the adm watches them closely and cancels their contracts.
[02:45] schestowitz[TR2] 1 day ago by Anonymous
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[02:45] schestowitz[TR2] Also the scam call center of the world.
[02:45] schestowitz[TR2] "
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[02:45] schestowitz[TR2] "
[02:45] schestowitz[TR2] 'India Is The Workforce For The World', Asserts McKinsey & Company's Top Brass
[02:45] schestowitz[TR2] What Arvind and IBM have been doing at an increasing pace. Video here => https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ga-krrYgak
[02:45] schestowitz[TR2] No thank you. IBM used to be great. Now it is not even mediocre. The G Man Gerstner cut his teeth at McKinsey which is telling US companies to gut their US workers. Makes Jack Welch of GE look like a saint compared to the carnage IBM has inflicted on it's US workers for 4 decades once the G Man came in 4-1-93.
[02:45] schestowitz[TR2] "
[02:46] schestowitz[TR2] https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1k54vwqxr
[02:46] schestowitz[TR2] "
[02:46] schestowitz[TR2] I do the exact same. Still have not showed at the office. I am in Atlanta and the last office standing is over crowded. I also have no one to work with at the office, all my customers are elsewhere in the US or in the world.
[02:46] schestowitz[TR2] 11 hours ago by Anonymous
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[02:46] schestowitz[TR2] I have a friend in corporate real estate (not affiliated with IBM) who said without a doubt that the primary reason for RTO is because of...corporate real estate. People in seats are needed to justify cost and budget of space, plus its better for the micro-economy of the immediate area. Companies are abandoning the "green this and that" bandwagon in order to justify commuters commuting again. It's all about $$$. However, management
[02:46] schestowitz[TR2] teams are indeed using it as a golden opportunity to get rid of folks. Never let a good opportunity go to waste.
[02:46] schestowitz[TR2] As for myself - IBM can go phuque themselves. I got "mandated" last year for RTO and I haven't been back to my office yet - which is an hour commute on a good day. There is nobody I need to associate with in that office, so I'm not doing it. I've checkout out emotionally from this job anyway and Im just using IBM as a cash cow until my next move is ready in early 2026. They used me, so I will use them.
[02:46] schestowitz[TR2] 11 hours ago by Anonymous
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[02:46] schestowitz[TR2] Hugging on the job at the office now gets you a meeting with the Watson HR bot?
[02:46] schestowitz[TR2] 1 day ago by Anonymous
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[02:46] schestowitz[TR2] +7
[02:46] schestowitz[TR2] @a1
[02:46] schestowitz[TR2] The going to the office doesn't even guarantee one will keep their jobs.
[02:46] schestowitz[TR2] 1 day ago by Anonymous
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[02:46] schestowitz[TR2] @af
[02:46] schestowitz[TR2] Seems like we are in the BS era, where some more on comes up with a new more on ic term for every single thing.
[02:46] schestowitz[TR2] Job hugging is nothing new. but what people every single time the job market goes like that, people cling to their jobs because unemployment is going up and companies slowed hiring. Duh.... but awwww, job hugging feels so "cute" and "unique" and "smart".... whatever.
[02:46] schestowitz[TR2] 1 day ago by Anonymous
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[02:46] schestowitz[TR2] @ag
[02:46] schestowitz[TR2] sigh, they can do this because they flooded the workforce
[02:46] schestowitz[TR2] with many many workers
[02:46] schestowitz[TR2] a lot of them are not able though to do the actual work
[02:46] schestowitz[TR2] 1 day ago by Anonymous
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[02:46] schestowitz[TR2] Glad I got the scuttlebutt.
[02:46] schestowitz[TR2] "
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[02:47] schestowitz[TR2] https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1k4bqt806
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[02:47] schestowitz[TR2] "
[02:47] schestowitz[TR2] IBM position with India
[02:47] schestowitz[TR2] Should IBM change its direction with India after this past week we see India running shoulders with Russia?
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[02:48] schestowitz[TR2] India plays both sides of the fence with the Russia/China regimes and the US. They will never be a strong US friend, at least with their current leadership. The US needs to exercise caution with them and restrict the flow of intellectual information to them since the information could easily fall into Russian and Chinese hands. So yes, we should be very careful henceforth in our dealings with India
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[02:48] schestowitz[TR2] IBM like most of corporate America will do what all major companies listed on the Stock exchange do in this era, priotise share holders. So if India becomes something too expensive for Shareholders and Profits, they will just move to something else to protect profits and shareholder value (just like Oracle, MSoft, Salesforce, Apple,
[02:48] schestowitz[TR2] You really want to change the dynamic, you have to change the whole thinking, and put employee value == or > Shareholder value. But in a world run by stock markets and the debt ponzi scheme every country (not just US) has, this will not get better for your average Joe, it will get worse and worse.
[02:48] schestowitz[TR2] I believe in the next couple of years India will have an almighty crash, as they will be too expensive for most western countries, and outsourcing as we know it will retrench, and at that time India will have one he-l of a recession (as they build there economy on cheap skilled labour), but there will come a time when they are not cheap enough, and they will crash hard.
[02:48] schestowitz[TR2] But that will not equate to high paying jobs coming back to the US (or EU). As the dynamic of having to make higher and higher profits does not change, nor does the dynamic of an economy which has to have a stock market rising higher and higher every week.
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[02:48] schestowitz[TR2] Working at IBM is like rubbing a marathon.
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[02:48] schestowitz[TR2] "Running shoulders" is creative, new and fun.
[02:48] schestowitz[TR2] The crazy mixed metaphors are just out of control and it's not just people from countries whose first language isn't English. I deal with crazy s* all the time in Canada.
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[02:53] schestowitz[TR2] https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1k59tct1k
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[02:53] schestowitz[TR2] RA Tuesday?
[02:53] schestowitz[TR2] The last few RAs had been announced the third tuesday of March and September. Anyone know if today's the same or if they're halting for 3Q earnings call?
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[02:53] schestowitz[TR2] "Most IBMers have surrendered to their fate. Asymptotically, IBM = RA.
[02:53] schestowitz[TR2] 1 hour ago by Anonymous
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[02:53] schestowitz[TR2] +3
[02:53] schestowitz[TR2] @OP
[02:53] schestowitz[TR2] I may be wrong, but this IBM 'site' used to be a lot more active and it's become less so. Maybe morale is down or apathy? Dunno.
[02:53] schestowitz[TR2] 2 hours ago by Anonymous
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[02:53] schestowitz[TR2] Yes, you're all fired! If not today, maybe tomorrow, but eventually, inevitably, if you work at IBM, you will be RAed. The only exception is that co-k su-ka RT.
[02:53] schestowitz[TR2] 6 hours ago by Anonymous
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[02:53] schestowitz[TR2] RA...you mean RUN AWAY AS FAST AS YOU CAN FROM IBM?! The physical and mental toll that place now inflicts (with intent and malice) is epic. Heard a good 1 today. Since IBM no longer has customer relationships and they think "partners" want to sell IBM exclusively, an IBM mgr was demanding an IBM sales rep call a business partner who was on vacation in Alaska and demand that the partner demand a PO from the customer by Friday. You s
[02:53] schestowitz[TR2] imply cannot make this S H I * T up.
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[04:23] schestowitz[TR2] "This is what you have to know about the manipulative approach to debate taken by late Charlie Kirk. He was not at all brilliant in his argumentation. His positions were not based on soldid knowledge (not even of the bible). His basic positions on morality were were just founded on his personal (and very subjective) convictions. And his argument (in this case about the rejection of same sex marriage) was taken apart by a student of
[04:23] schestowitz[TR2] archeology and biological anthropology at Cambridge University with just a few sentences... Really educational explanatory video here (and skip the unnecessary advertisment between 7:22 and 9:16)"
[04:25] schestowitz[TR2] https://x.com/HoehneVirgil/status/1967178914205143115
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[04:25] schestowitz[TR2] "Young lady from Spain mentions that she is engaged (together with rightwing European nationalists) to save "the culture our ancestors spent thousands of years building..."
[04:25] schestowitz[TR2] Are you kidding me, @ada_lluch
[04:25] schestowitz[TR2] ? Please explain to us what Spain did between 1492 and roughly 1800 in Latin"
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[18:00] schestowitz[TR2] ssTomorrow https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1k59tct1k cheats should not prosper" as an answer to a question seeking the legal basis in the EPC for claim interpretation rules?
I know that it may feel like hoisting patentees by their own petard is "the right outcome". However, the law"
[18:00] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.com | No claim interpretation summersaults for the EPO (T 2027/23) - The IPKat
[18:00] schestowitz[TR2] "In answer to your 1., Pudding, is there enough leg...In answer to your 1., Pudding, is there enough legal basis for you in the maxim that cheats should not prosper? The patentee as owner of the asserted right chooses whether or not to seed the patent monopoly with Angora Cats. If they do, they cannot legitimately complain when a court hoists them with their own petard, to the extent of using one of the possibl
[18:00] schestowitz[TR2] e claim constructions for deciding the<"
[18:37] *Now talking on #techbytes
[18:37] *Topic for #techbytes is: Welcome to the official channel of the TechBytes Audiocast
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● Sep 17
[20:44] schestowitz[TR2] "Wow. This one made the Rust zealots angry!
[20:44] schestowitz[TR2] But, and this is important, the real problem here is not that Ubuntu is replacing some software with alternatives written in Rust.
[20:44] schestowitz[TR2] From an engineering perspective, the language choice is fine. Rust is just another programming language good (and bad) software can be written in Rust, C, C++, Smalltalk, Fortran, Pascal you name it.
[20:44] schestowitz[TR2] The *real* problem here is the throwing out of battle tested, well respected software which there are not real-world problems with in favor of new software which is:
[20:44] schestowitz[TR2] 1) Not yet feature complete (and not able to be a drop in replacement).
[20:44] schestowitz[TR2] 2) Only lightly tested (with significant bugs being found despite the limited testing and deployments).
[20:44] schestowitz[TR2] 3) Being built with a language and compiler which is not yet finalized (and often changes, in significant ways, from month to month).
[20:44] schestowitz[TR2] From an engineering management perspective this is simply a bone-head decision. It is absolutely, positively going to cause problems for end users.
[20:44] schestowitz[TR2] Which begs the question: Why would such a decision be made when anyone with even a few years of engineering experience would know, from personal experience, that this would be a bad idea?
[20:44] schestowitz[TR2] The likely answer: Rust zealotry. There is a cult-ish fervor associated with many Rust users. Not all, but many. To the point where I received several threats of violence for simply posting my thoughts regarding some utilities written in Rust. Based on this and the statements from others supporting these changes it seems likely that the primary motivation for making this significant change is the adherence to that Fa
[20:44] schestowitz[TR2] ith of Rust."
[20:53] schestowitz[TR2] https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1k5bwg1n0
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[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] "with your long winded essay, how could you forget that IBM stands for Indian Business Machines ? Did you lose your train of thought somehow and ignore what was staring at you in the face.
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] 1 hour ago by Anonymous
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[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] AK said: American employees are too expensive, complacent and tend to complain too much compared too my younger countrymenso we are doing the meaningful to make our numbers for Wall Street
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[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] If you train your own Indian replacement ===> you are on the upcoming lay off list
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[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] @av
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] I wanted to share this link instead, as someone shared here today the same sentiment: https://www.thelayoff.com/post/@j4+1k57k4772
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] 2 hours ago by Anonymous
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[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] Post ID: @aw+1k5bwg1n0
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] +4
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] @ak
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] 100% correct.
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] It seems you are not alone: https://www.thelayoff.com/post/@aa+1k5bwg1n0
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] The quality is always lacking, but they are very good at politicking (for themselves).
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] 2 hours ago by Anonymous
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[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] Post ID: @av+1k5bwg1n0
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] +3
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] @ac
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] IBM is no longer innovating, it is marketing with the intent to help the stock price and the likes.
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] If the information you have provided is indeed the case (no doubt based on everything we have experienced), the above will be also the case, very much indeed.
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] 3 hours ago by Anonymous
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[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] Post ID: @ak+1k5bwg1n0
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] +4
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] @a5
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] In the event the information may be removed:
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] https://unstop.com/blog/ibm-hiring-software-developers-2025
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] IBM, is expanding its workforce in India with over 2500+ job openings across all departments.
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] IBM Hiring 2025: Job Openings by Departments
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] IBMs latest hiring spree covers a variety of roles across domains, including:
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] Division/Team No. of Openings
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] Software Engineering 1080
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] Consulting 632
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] Enterprise Operations 474
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] Infrastructure & Technology 190
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] Data & Analytics 183
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] Project Management 21
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] Sales 13
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] Product Management 7
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] Security 3
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] Some key open roles include:
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] Package Consultant
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] Strategy Consultant
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] Delivery Consultant
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] Application Developer
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] Data Engineer
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] Technical Support Professional
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] Infrastructure Specialist
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] Process Delivery Specialist
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] Campaign Specialist
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] Process Innovation Professional
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] Functional Manager
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] Project Manager/ Group Manager
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] Territory Partner Sales Specialist
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] Brand Sales Specialist
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] Product Manager/ Senior Product Manager
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] 3 hours ago by Anonymous
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[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] Post ID: @aj+1k5bwg1n0
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] +5
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] i heard cio wants 90% non americans
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] 4 hours ago by Anonymous
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[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] Post ID: @ac+1k5bwg1n0
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] +7
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] @a8
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] Thank you very much. The data you provide means that India now has 3X more employees than the US (let that sink in). IBM is no longer a US firm.
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] I'm sorry that I have to point this out, but this move triggered IBM's decline, there is a clear correlation between the start of this so called trend and the company's deterioration.
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] Thanks to Ginni and Tonic, his heir AK and McKinsey for the outcome (sarcasm on).
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] To other companies following this trend: It doesn't work.
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] 5 hours ago by Anonymous
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[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] Post ID: @aa+1k5bwg1n0
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] +4
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] @OP
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] 1) Jobs are being created @ American corporations, but EXPORTED.
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] 2) Jobs are being destroyed @ American corporations, but EXPORTED.
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] From: US (plus: Canada, UK).
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] To: Cheaper (and less qualified) markets that have no ability to create their own jobs (that's why they need us to provide such jobs). This also comes with a transfer of knowledge and loss of competitive edge, IP, trade secrets.
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] Export of services = tariff for US companies, importers of such jobs and intermediaries that provide HR services to businesses to facilitate global hiring, outsourcing, near-shoring, offshoring.
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] 5 hours ago by Anonymous
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[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] Post ID: @a9+1k5bwg1n0
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] +7
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] @a6 Thanks for your post. I think you could loop two more sources of info into the whats know categories.
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] IRS 5500 info is out for 2024 headcounts (eg 2025 data Yes its runs a year behind) and IBMs USA headcount appears to be hovering between 49k and 53k. Thats an approx 3k reduction from the 2023 numbers and is consistent. The inputs are labeled IBM short term disability (49.5k), IBM long term disability (50.6k), and IBM Group life insurance (52.2k). What the real actual number is, is anyones guess but there is a ve
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] ry very high probability that 49-53k works and thats before the 2025 8k layoff.
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] IBMs general manager in charge of India several months ago confirmed during a posting that IBM India was in the 130-135k headcount range.
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] These two data points seem to confirm what we all know is going on. IBM is aggressively outsourcing to India and the USA headcount is much lower than most folks think. My back of the envelope analysis says 43k USA headcount after the 2025 layoffs, and 135k India employee base after the 2025 USA RAs
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] 5 hours ago by Anonymous
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[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] Post ID: @a8+1k5bwg1n0
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] +3
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] @OP
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] The thread in response to @OP with further statistics is long and I apologize for it (profusely), but it intends to put all info and its sources in this thread.
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] Apologies for the inconvenience of a long post.
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] 6 hours ago by Anonymous
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[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] Post ID: @a6+1k5bwg1n0
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] +6
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] @OP
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] Let's summarize what we know here (this thread):
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] It is a fact that IBM is undertaking layoffs in the US and expanding its operations and hiring in India. We are not more ons (they may think we are, but we are not).
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] This has also created a severe level of uncertainty for US-based employees due to ambiguous messaging and (so called) "strategic" changes.
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] While IBM continues to keep their US-based employees uninformed and confused, and it continues with the US layoffs, IBM is shifting a significant portion of affected roles to India. What do we know and they can't deny?
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] In July 2025, IBM announced over 2500+ job openings in India across various departments, including engineering, consulting, and operations. This indicates a continued focus on hiring in the region. Back in January, IBM announced plans to increase its workforce in India by a similar number, focusing on "talent development and expansion" in Tier-2 cities like Bengaluru, Kochi, and Ahmedabad.
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] Source (worth checking): https://unstop.com/blog/ibm-hiring-software-developers-2025#:~:text=IBM%2C%20a%20global%20leader%20in,Brand%20Sales%20Specialist
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] Regarding the number of employees in India, IBM does not publicly disclose the precise figure. However, several sources offer estimates and insights:
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] Estimates of Employee Count: By most estimates, IBM has close to a third of its global workforce (at least 100,000 employees) in India, potentially more than in the US.
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] Hiring Trends: In March 2025, IBM reportedly had significantly more job openings in India (3,866) than in the US (333), suggesting an active hiring drive in the country.
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] Historical Growth: Between 2003 and 2007, IBM's headcount in India grew by almost 800%, reaching nearly 74,000 in 2007 (Wikipedia).
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] Since 2006, IBM has been the multinational with the largest number of employees in India.
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] This workforce restructuring affects various departments, including Cloud Classic Operations, Consulting, Corporate Social Responsibility, Sales, and Internal IT Teams.
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] The restructuring is expected (Yahoo Finance) to further create and expand roles in India, especially in cloud computing, infrastructure, sales, and consulting. While IBM has confirmed "workforce rebalancing," the exact number of job cuts in the US has not been officially and openly disclosed.
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] Many other American corporations are doing exactly the same. But that doesn't excuse IBM.
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] Sources:
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] https://en.gamegpu.com/iron/IBM-is-mass-firing-employees-in-the-US-and-taking-on-personnel-in-India#:~:text=Sources%20say%20the%20layoffs%20are,the%20total%20number%20of%20layoffs.
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ibm-slash-nearly-9-000-130352744.html#:~:text=They're%20trying%20to%20move,the%20company's%20global%20workforce%20strategy.
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] https://www.hrgrapevine.com/us/content/article/2025-03-25-ibm-to-cut-9000-us-jobs-as-workforce-shifts-abroad#:~:text=IBM%20is%20rumoured%20to%20be,must%20be%20reinstated%2C%20Judge%20orders
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/major-layoffs-us-opportunities-india-ibms-latest-move-sparking-sx8yc#:~:text=Staffing%20Partners:%20Reliable%20&%20Cost%20Efficient,an%20affordable%20labor%20market%20scenario.
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_India#:~:text=Between%202003%20and%202007%2C%20IBM's,there%20than%20in%20the%20US.
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/technology/tech-news/ibm-reportedly-cutting-jobs-and-trying-to-keep-it-/articleshow/113517842.cms#:~:text=IBM%20confirms%20job%20cuts,made%20public%20by%20the%20agency.
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] https://www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/technology/ibm-to-layoff-thousands-of-us-employees-as-hiring-shifts-to-india-report/article69385319.ece#:~:text=IBM%20has%20also%20listed%20173,hiring%20has%20continued%20in%20India.
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] https://www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/technology/ibm-layoff-hits-thousands-as-company-tries-to-keep-it-under-wraps/article68672900.ece#:~:text=The%20company%20reportedly%20took%20a,the%20first%20quarter%20of%202024&text=Credit:%20Kesavan%20A%20N-,IBM%20is%20quietly%20laying%20off%20thousands%20of%20employees%2C%20mainly%20impacting,5%2C200%20employees%2C%20the%20report%20said.
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] https://m.economictimes.com/tech/information-tech/ibm-looks-to-groom-indian-talent-for-global-roles-and-key-missions/articleshow/117064563.cms#:~:text=IBM%20plans%20to%20increase%20its,president%2C%20software%20products%20at%20IBM.
[20:58] schestowitz[TR2] "
[20:58] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes- ( status 403 @ https://www.thelayoff.com/post/@j4+1k57k4772 )
[20:59] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes- ( status 403 @ https://www.thelayoff.com/post/@aa+1k5bwg1n0 )
[20:59] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-IBM Hiring: 2500+ Openings In Engineering, Consulting, & More // Unstop
[20:59] schestowitz[TR2] https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1k57k4772
[20:59] schestowitz[TR2] "100% correct.
[20:59] schestowitz[TR2] It seems you are not alone: https://www.thelayoff.com/post/@aa+1k5bwg1n0
[20:59] schestowitz[TR2] The quality is always lacking, but they are very good at politicking (for themselves).
[20:59] schestowitz[TR2] 2 hours ago by Anonymous
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[20:59] schestowitz[TR2] Post ID: @jb+1k57k4772
[20:59] schestowitz[TR2] +8
[20:59] schestowitz[TR2] I have noticed a sharp downturn in product quality and documentation over the past 2-3 years. I have seen a sharp uptick in hiring in India during the same timeframe.
[20:59] schestowitz[TR2] Correlation or causation?
[20:59] schestowitz[TR2] "
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[21:02] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-IBM Hiring: 2500+ Openings In Engineering, Consulting, & More // Unstop
[21:03] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-en.gamegpu.com | IBM lays off US staff en masse, hires in India | HARDWARE | NEWS
[21:03] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-finance.yahoo.com | IBM to slash nearly 9,000 jobs in US
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[21:03] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.linkedin.com | Major layoffs in the US, major opportunities in India. IBMs latest move is sparking changeare YOU ready for the global job revolution?
[21:03] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-en.wikipedia.org | IBM India - Wikipedia
[21:03] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-timesofindia.indiatimes.com | IBM reportedly cutting jobs and trying to keep it ... - Times of India
[21:03] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.thehindu.com | IBM to layoff thousands of U.S. employees as hiring shifts to India: Report - The Hindu
[21:03] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.thehindu.com | IBM layoff hits thousands as company tries to keep it under wraps: Report - The Hindu
[21:03] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-economictimes.indiatimes.com | IBM talent development: IBM looks to groom Indian talent for global roles and key missions - The Economic Times
[21:03] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes- ( status 403 @ https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1k57k4772 )
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[21:12] schestowitz[TR2] no pain
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[23:55] schestowitz[TR2] "Dear members,
[23:55] schestowitz[TR2] Please join us for the SUEPO TH Annual General Meeting (AGM) - in person only - followed by drinks and snacks with your union representatives who will be available to reply to your questions and discuss any concerns or ideas you may have.
[23:55] schestowitz[TR2] Time: Thursday 9th October, 17:00
[23:55] schestowitz[TR2] Location: SUEPO TH Headquarters, De Bruyn Kopsstraat 15, Entrance B, Unit 1.11 - 2288 EC Rijswijk, Meeting Room (Zaal 1) - Ground Floor (next to the elevators)."
[23:55] schestowitz[TR2] "Please email any questions to hague@suepo.org before the meeting - irrespective of whether you will attend the AGM or not.
[23:55] schestowitz[TR2] Provisional Agenda:
[23:55] schestowitz[TR2] Approval of the agenda
[23:55] schestowitz[TR2] Approval of the minutes AGM 2023 (October 2024)
[23:55] schestowitz[TR2] Annual Report [1]
[23:55] schestowitz[TR2] Financial Report 2024
[23:55] schestowitz[TR2] Auditors Report 2024
[23:55] schestowitz[TR2] Acceptance of the accounts 2024
[23:55] schestowitz[TR2] Proposed amendment to the election rules:
[23:55] schestowitz[TR2] Article I.4 e)
[23:55] schestowitz[TR2] Present formulation:
[23:55] schestowitz[TR2] " e) organise the order in which the names of the candidates will be mentioned on the ballot form by lottery;"
[23:55] schestowitz[TR2] Proposed formulation:
[23:55] schestowitz[TR2] " e) organise the order in which the names of the candidates will be mentioned on the list of candidates of the notice of election by lottery;"
[23:55] schestowitz[TR2] For information:
[23:55] schestowitz[TR2] The statutes and number of full members of the Bureau (Art. 15.2 Statute) remain unchanged 7 full members and remaining candidates elected as alternates
[23:55] schestowitz[TR2] 2026 membership fees: indexation[2] of all membership fees according to the SAP 2024 results, i.e. increase of 2.4%
[23:55] schestowitz[TR2] Discharging of the Committee
[23:55] schestowitz[TR2] Election of the Auditors for the 2025 accounts- if interested, please indicate such by email to hague@suepo.org.
[23:55] schestowitz[TR2] Election of the Electoral Committee for the elections in November 2025 - if interested, please indicate such by email to hague@suepo.org.
[23:55] schestowitz[TR2] AOBs
[23:55] schestowitz[TR2] Please join us afterwards for a drink and a chat."
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