●● IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, April 18, 2024 ●● ● Apr 18 [00:31] schestowitz > Hi Roy, [00:31] schestowitz > [00:31] schestowitz > > The bad ones are most "memorable". [00:31] schestowitz > [00:31] schestowitz > Ain't that the truth! My highlight last month was someone saying they [00:31] schestowitz > knew where I lived, and wanted to "teach me a lesson". But I got five [00:31] schestowitz > other comments saying I'd encouraged them to try NetBSD. No prizes for [00:31] schestowitz > the one that affected my day the most. [00:31] schestowitz > [00:31] schestowitz > > Sometimes it is possible not to even read it [00:31] schestowitz > [00:31] schestowitz > Yup, that's what I have to work on for sure. My "blocked sender" filter [00:31] schestowitz > in Thunderbird has been getting a real workout (reminds me that I need [00:31] schestowitz > to go back to mutt or Alpine at some point too). [00:31] schestowitz > [00:31] schestowitz > Thanks again for the civil words and constructive feedback, it's meant a [00:31] schestowitz > lot. [00:31] schestowitz > [00:31] schestowitz > Thanks, [00:31] schestowitz The quiet/silent readers matter. [00:36] schestowitz > Good exchange with him. [00:36] schestowitz > [00:36] schestowitz > Yes, at any given moment there are people having a bad day and some [00:36] schestowitz > outright pricks that with a wide enough audience, a great many in [00:36] schestowitz > absolute numbers will turn up even if they are only a small percent. [00:36] schestowitz > [00:36] schestowitz > However of that small percentage there may be agent provacateurs egging [00:36] schestowitz > things on or even throwing verbal stones of sorts. Those provacateurs [00:36] schestowitz > are certainly going to take issue with a fine FOSS oriented blog like [00:36] schestowitz > his and have for decades pushed a wedge between people espousing the [00:36] schestowitz > non-reciprocal licensing approach and the copyleft folks, if possible. [00:36] schestowitz > [00:36] schestowitz > I wrote him once some months ago about a quirk in his feeds [00:36] schestowitz > construction, short and polite (I hope), but never heard back. However, [00:36] schestowitz > as you know, from what I've experienced for decades in regards to [00:36] schestowitz > technology and workplace politics there are no legitimate circumstances [00:36] schestowitz > under which Windows (or any other m$ products) may be tolerated, ever, [00:36] schestowitz > and that lesson keeps getting strengthened as time passes. [00:36] schestowitz > [00:36] schestowitz > Back to the licensing dispute, what has been protecting the [00:36] schestowitz > non-reciprocally licensed projects, has been the intense organization [00:36] schestowitz > and long term planning of the FreeBSD and OpenBSD projects. That is [00:36] schestowitz > mainly FreeBSD though. OpenBSD still runs on the BDFL model like Linux [00:36] schestowitz > used to, so let's set that one aside. In comparison to FreeBSD, Linux [00:36] schestowitz > has not had even remotely the same level of planning or organization and [00:36] schestowitz > a a code base has grown write-only organically. As a project, [00:36] schestowitz > eventually Linus let himself be distracted by stuff which is not code [00:36] schestowitz > and let that non-code stuff enter the project resulting in his [00:36] schestowitz > displacement and a shift away from being code-focused. Strong copyleft [00:36] schestowitz > has helped Linux grow more than non-reciprocal licensing has helped [00:36] schestowitz > FreeBSD grow. However, a very well organized and rather well vetted and [00:36] schestowitz > very code-focused leadership has protected FreeBSD so much more than the [00:36] schestowitz > Linux leadership has protected their kernel that it almost makes up the [00:36] schestowitz > difference. [00:36] schestowitz > [00:36] schestowitz > [00:36] schestowitz > PS. One of Lunduke's last coherent posts was about the write-only nature [00:36] schestowitz > of Linux as a kernel. [00:36] schestowitz > [00:36] schestowitz > PPS. You and I have discussed Peren's new beginning at post-OSS [00:36] schestowitz > efforts. Non-reciprocally licensed projects owe it to themselves to at [00:36] schestowitz > least keep an eye on that effort and, when ready, take a deep look at [00:36] schestowitz > the result. ● Apr 18 [01:58] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Apr 18 [02:05] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #techbytes [02:45] *jacobk (~quassel@838aynky6btpe.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Apr 18 [03:11] *jacobk has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Apr 18 [05:38] *jacobk (~quassel@838aynky6btpe.irc) has joined #techbytes [05:43] *jacobk has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [05:43] *jacobk (~quassel@838aynky6btpe.irc) has joined #techbytes [05:54] *jacobk has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Apr 18 [06:17] *208BSVZRN has quit (*.net *.split) [06:17] *iNvERSeD has quit (*.net *.split) [06:17] *lightbringer has quit (*.net *.split) [06:17] *rianne has quit (*.net *.split) [06:17] *schestowitz-TR2 has quit (*.net *.split) [06:18] *schestowitz-TR2 (~acer-box@freenode/user/schestowitz) has joined #techbytes [06:18] *lightbringer (mincer@freenode/user/lightbringer) has joined #techbytes [06:18] *rianne (~rianne@freenode-54p.goo.k31cok.IP) has joined #techbytes [06:18] *208BSVZRN (~quassel@freenode-50vmi7.ldvb.0amm.hij1op.IP) has joined #techbytes [06:18] *iNvERSeD (~DaxSon@freenode-2ue.6ih.pu7h8v.IP) has joined #techbytes ● Apr 18 [08:00] schestowitz
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    However, the change that brought the most amusement to the face of the Reg FOSS desk is a configuration file change from Linus himself, titled "Kconfig: add some hidden tabs on purpose." He switched a space indent to a tab indent to catch out poor-quality parsers.

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    Gentoo Council Implements Ban on AI-Assisted Contributions
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    Several critical concerns underpin the Gentoo Councils decision. Foremost among them are copyright issues. With copyright laws still catching up to the fast-paced evolution of AI, using AI-generated content could lead to legal entanglements and undermine the rigorous copyright standards that open-source projects like Gentoo strive to maintain.

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    Additionally, there are apprehensions about the quality of AI-generated content. While AI can produce work that appears convincingly accurate, it often lacks the nuanced understanding necessary for high-stakes or technically demanding projects.

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    For Gentoo, this risk is unacceptable, as it could dilute the quality of their projects and impose an undue burden on developers and users who would need to verify the accuracy of such contributions.

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