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schestowitz | >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tQw75-vlDI | Sep 18 00:27 |
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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | Unearthing the History of Unix: Warner Losh - YouTube | Sep 18 00:27 | |
schestowitz | He's mostly reading. | Sep 18 00:27 |
schestowitz | >> However, I'm not sure how the notice at the beginning complicates the | Sep 18 00:27 |
schestowitz | >> fact that it has been published via Youtube. | Sep 18 00:27 |
schestowitz | >> | Sep 18 00:27 |
schestowitz | >> I'll keep an eye open for more. Interesting and good videos tend to be | Sep 18 00:27 |
schestowitz | >> rather sporadic at best. | Sep 18 00:27 |
schestowitz | >> | Sep 18 00:27 |
schestowitz | > Or this one: | Sep 18 00:27 |
schestowitz | > | Sep 18 00:27 |
schestowitz | > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTShQIXSdqM | Sep 18 00:27 |
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | OpenBSD for 1.5 Years: Confessions of a Linux Heretic - YouTube | Sep 18 00:27 | |
schestowitz | I'll add both to Daily Links as they're recent... | Sep 18 00:27 |
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schestowitz | > https://wiki.tuhs.org/doku.php | Sep 18 18:14 |
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-wiki.tuhs.org | start [Unix Heritage Wiki] | Sep 18 18:14 | |
schestowitz | > | Sep 18 18:14 |
schestowitz | > | Sep 18 18:14 |
schestowitz | > The Unix Heritage Wiki | Sep 18 18:14 |
schestowitz | > | Sep 18 18:14 |
schestowitz | > The Unix operating system has provided a highly flexible and functional | Sep 18 18:14 |
schestowitz | > computing environment to users and programmers since 1969. Today its | Sep 18 18:14 |
schestowitz | > descendants (the BSDs) and a clean-room implementation (Linux) power | Sep 18 18:14 |
schestowitz | > everything from embedded devices, desktops, servers through to | Sep 18 18:14 |
schestowitz | > supercomputers. | Sep 18 18:14 |
schestowitz | > | Sep 18 18:14 |
schestowitz | > This wiki aims to collect the available historical documents and | Sep 18 18:14 |
schestowitz | > recollections of Unix into one central place so they can be studied by | Sep 18 18:14 |
schestowitz | > researchers and Unix enthusiasts alike. | Sep 18 18:14 |
schestowitz | > | Sep 18 18:14 |
schestowitz | > Systems <https://wiki.tuhs.org/doku.php?id=systems:start> | Sep 18 18:14 |
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-wiki.tuhs.org | systems:start [Unix Heritage Wiki] | Sep 18 18:14 | |
schestowitz | > Details of some of the versions of Unix | Sep 18 18:14 |
schestowitz | > Source code <https://wiki.tuhs.org/doku.php?id=source:start> | Sep 18 18:14 |
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-wiki.tuhs.org | source:start [Unix Heritage Wiki] | Sep 18 18:14 | |
schestowitz | > How to obtain the source code, and licensing conditions | Sep 18 18:14 |
schestowitz | > Features <https://wiki.tuhs.org/doku.php?id=features:start> | Sep 18 18:15 |
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-wiki.tuhs.org | features:start [Unix Heritage Wiki] | Sep 18 18:15 | |
schestowitz | > Important features of Unix | Sep 18 18:15 |
schestowitz | > Timeline and Events <https://wiki.tuhs.org/doku.php?id=events:start> | Sep 18 18:15 |
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-wiki.tuhs.org | events:start [Unix Heritage Wiki] | Sep 18 18:15 | |
schestowitz | > A timeline of Unix and the major events in its history | Sep 18 18:15 |
schestowitz | > People <https://wiki.tuhs.org/doku.php?id=people:start> | Sep 18 18:15 |
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-wiki.tuhs.org | people:start [Unix Heritage Wiki] | Sep 18 18:15 | |
schestowitz | > Some of the people involved in Unix' history | Sep 18 18:15 |
schestowitz | > Interviews, Musings & Anecdotes | Sep 18 18:15 |
schestowitz | > <https://wiki.tuhs.org/doku.php?id=anecdotes:start> | Sep 18 18:15 |
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-wiki.tuhs.org | anecdotes:start [Unix Heritage Wiki] | Sep 18 18:15 | |
schestowitz | > Interviews with Unix people and their own musings & anecdotes | Sep 18 18:15 |
schestowitz | > Images, Photos & Videos <https://wiki.tuhs.org/doku.php?id=images:start> | Sep 18 18:15 |
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-wiki.tuhs.org | images:start [Unix Heritage Wiki] | Sep 18 18:15 | |
schestowitz | > Images, diagrams, photos and videos related to Unix | Sep 18 18:15 |
schestowitz | > Glossary <https://wiki.tuhs.org/doku.php?id=glossary:start> | Sep 18 18:15 |
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-wiki.tuhs.org | glossary:start [Unix Heritage Wiki] | Sep 18 18:15 | |
schestowitz | > A glossary of terms related to Unix | Sep 18 18:15 |
schestowitz | > Publications <https://wiki.tuhs.org/doku.php?id=publications:start> | Sep 18 18:15 |
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-wiki.tuhs.org | publications:start [Unix Heritage Wiki] | Sep 18 18:15 | |
schestowitz | > Books, magazines, papers, websites etc. on Unix | Sep 18 18:15 |
schestowitz | > Miscellaneous <https://wiki.tuhs.org/doku.php?id=misc:start> | Sep 18 18:15 |
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-wiki.tuhs.org | misc:start [Unix Heritage Wiki] | Sep 18 18:15 | |
schestowitz | > Miscellaneous information about Unix | Sep 18 18:15 |
schestowitz | > Wiki Notes <https://wiki.tuhs.org/doku.php?id=wiki:start> | Sep 18 18:15 |
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-wiki.tuhs.org | wiki:start [Unix Heritage Wiki] | Sep 18 18:15 | |
schestowitz | > Notes about the rationale of this wiki | Sep 18 18:15 |
schestowitz | > | Sep 18 18:15 |
schestowitz | > UNIX is a registered trademark of The Open Group. | Sep 18 18:15 |
schestowitz | > <http://www.unix.org/trademark.html> | Sep 18 18:15 |
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.unix.org | UNIX Trademark -- The UNIX System -- UNIX Trademark Usage | Sep 18 18:15 | |
schestowitz | > | Sep 18 18:15 |
schestowitz | > /If you would like edit permissions on this wiki, contact Warren./ | Sep 18 18:15 |
schestowitz | > although we can check the date on your unix video, we know it was 1973 | Sep 18 18:15 |
schestowitz | > at the earliest because february 73 was when the unix pipe was | Sep 18 18:15 |
schestowitz | > implemented-- as part of version 3 unix. | Sep 18 18:15 |
schestowitz | > | Sep 18 18:15 |
schestowitz | > it was doug mcilroy who pushed for it in unix, ken thompson who | Sep 18 18:15 |
schestowitz | > implemented it as pipe() and it was also ken thompson who is credited | Sep 18 18:15 |
schestowitz | > with choosing | as the syntax (for version 4, later that same year.) | Sep 18 18:15 |
schestowitz | I thought that video was 1982. | Sep 18 18:15 |
schestowitz | > Given the past half a dozen messages you sent me, I think you can potentially put together a post. I'm terrified of covering UNIX as I'm far from familiar. It's a lot older than me. I am still learning what predates me. | Sep 18 18:17 |
schestowitz | re > Given the past half a dozen messages you sent me, I think you can potentially put together a post. I'm terrified of covering UNIX as I'm far from familiar. It's a lot older than me. I am still learning what predates me. | Sep 18 18:17 |
schestowitz | re 79unix | Sep 18 18:17 |
schestowitz | >> I thought that video was 1982. | Sep 18 18:26 |
schestowitz | > | Sep 18 18:26 |
schestowitz | > Could be. But 1982 is also later than 1973. Like I said, you can check | Sep 18 18:26 |
schestowitz | > the date (I think it's at the end) but because it has UNIX pipes, it | Sep 18 18:26 |
schestowitz | > couldn't be older than 1973. Not a revelation, just amusement. | Sep 18 18:26 |
schestowitz | > | Sep 18 18:26 |
schestowitz | > That Bell phone with the pushbuttons is a lot like the previous models | Sep 18 18:26 |
schestowitz | > with rotary dials. That was the most 80s-looking thing there. Those | Sep 18 18:26 |
schestowitz | > PDP-11s on the wall probably weren't new, they had relied on those for a | Sep 18 18:26 |
schestowitz | > while. I'm sure they're a job to get out the door anyway. | Sep 18 18:26 |
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schestowitz | >>>>> I'll keep an eye open for more. Interesting and good videos tend to be | Sep 18 18:33 |
schestowitz | >>>>> rather sporadic at best. | Sep 18 18:33 |
schestowitz | >>>> when I started watching the latest thing about GNOME (an hour after it | Sep 18 18:33 |
schestowitz | >>>> was published) I wrote down the start time (8:20 IIRC) but as I watched | Sep 18 18:34 |
schestowitz | >>>> it I cringed a bit with the Trump-like language. I don't think it's | Sep 18 18:34 |
schestowitz | >>>> suitable for TR. Would be a liability. Other segments were equally | Sep 18 18:34 |
schestowitz | >>>> unhelpful. | Sep 18 18:34 |
schestowitz | >>> Yeah, I hope he is able to stay focused on the technology and the | Sep 18 18:34 |
schestowitz | >>> software freedom. However, maybe I cut him too much slack on deviating | Sep 18 18:34 |
schestowitz | >>> from that course because of two factors. The first is that it is all | Sep 18 18:34 |
schestowitz | >>> but impossible for people in the US to be exposed to truthful political | Sep 18 18:34 |
schestowitz | >>> news unless they go out of their way. The other is that young people in | Sep 18 18:34 |
schestowitz | >>> his age have more or less grown up exposed to social control media and | Sep 18 18:34 |
schestowitz | >>> can't tell up from down and have no means to learn it. So for those two | Sep 18 18:34 |
schestowitz | >>> reasons, I was cherry picking the GNOME segment. He has a break of two | Sep 18 18:34 |
schestowitz | >>> weeks, so we'll see how he does then. | Sep 18 18:34 |
schestowitz | >> | Sep 18 18:34 |
schestowitz | >> When he says "SJW" and "virtue signalling" the way he does I just see | Sep 18 18:34 |
schestowitz | >> ESR and move right on.. don't want to associate with those dogwhistles. | Sep 18 18:34 |
schestowitz | > | Sep 18 18:34 |
schestowitz | > Probably, but then what does one call an "SJW" or use to describe | Sep 18 18:34 |
schestowitz | > "virtue signalling"? They are both real problems. We'll see how he | Sep 18 18:34 |
schestowitz | > does after his break. At the worst, he might be bringing the idea of | Sep 18 18:34 |
schestowitz | > software freedom to a wider audience. | Sep 18 18:34 |
schestowitz | The terms he uses are associating oneself with the very weapon used to discredit the argument. | Sep 18 18:34 |
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