●● IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, December 18, 2023 ●● ● Dec 18 [01:26] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techbytes [01:26] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techbytes [01:27] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techbytes [01:27] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techbytes [01:28] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techbytes [01:28] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techbytes [01:35] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techbytes [01:36] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Dec 18 [02:27] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techbytes [02:28] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techbytes [02:47] schestowitz > Thank you! [02:47] schestowitz > [02:47] schestowitz > I am now working on putting the two parts together (as they were originally ) and again reworking some of the wording and such. I am wondering if you can recommend another site where I might also publish such material. [02:47] schestowitz The Web is dying away, many sites shut down*. I can recommend trying CounterPunch? [02:47] schestowitz I can repost this in tuxmachines.org for extra audience? 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[15:07] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@dc77dxzcmjmaq.irc) has joined #techbytes [15:35] schestowitz "As stated above, the ideas are as easy as ever to find. They're just getting harder and harder to implement. [15:35] schestowitz Barriers to entry for new players in existing fields is a huge concern that just continues to grow. Before you can put a new idea into practice, you must search the ever exploding IP landscape. My first patent was issued in 1992 with a number in the 5 million range. There were 5 million US patents issued between 1836 and 1991. Patent 11,000,000 was issued in 2021, and the pace continues to accelerate. https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/0 [15:35] schestowitz 5/patent-number-11000000.html [patentlyo.com] Computer searches make finding prior art a little easier, but it is still time consuming. Let's not get into the farce that are patent attorney teams and their treatment of the prior art requirements. As a business, you do want to know if your new venture is likely to be struck down by an infringement suit as soon as you start making significant profits. [15:35] schestowitz Legislated regulation makes operation in most fields more costly and labor intense than "the good 'ole days." ISO 9001 was first issued in 1987 and hit our industry in the mid 1990s as an absolute requirement for selling any product in Europe. We literally shut down all other operations and 10/10 of our employees worked on nothing but establishing ISO 9001 compliant procedures and documentation systems for a period of 6 weeks, and we es [15:35] schestowitz timated that we would be spending approximately 10% of our time going forward generating documentation and showing it during annual certification audits. That's time we never spent on those things before, and FDA has similar but different requirements which added another 5% overhead on top of the ISO work. Then you get into specific market requirements, we had things like biotech inspection on sale to most hospitals, specific certificat [15:35] schestowitz ions and documentation for specific areas, like fire safety in Chicago. It goes on and on. In 32 years of work, I have seen a lot of completely new requirements, but never any old requirements go away without being replaced with even more laborious ones. [15:35] schestowitz Then there are commercial realities of barriers to competition - established businesses make it extremely hard to practically launch a new product. A competitor put out a simple product to be sold on the shelves of drug stores like Walgreens / CVS / etc. They did all the ISO and FDA work, they did scientific studies, they did marketing promotions like getting the product shown being used by NFL athletes during games, but... the biggest, [15:35] schestowitz most laborious and costly part of that whole product launch was securing 3" of eye-level shelf space at the drug stores. [15:35] schestowitz In the medical space you can talk about insurance reimbursement games. [15:35] schestowitz In the automotive space you can talk about barriers to entry erected by the existing companies - in the mid-late 1990s I wanted to get my hands on the OBDII spec so I could buy connectors to manufacture a part to interface to the OBDII port of new cars and an interface translator to software running on Palm Pilots (yes, this was a short lived idea). Step one seemed to be to obtain a certain document, which was only available to members [15:35] schestowitz of a certain society. Membership dues: $50K. With no guarantee that the parts I was after would be available in quantities of less than 1M from the suppliers, nor that the communication protocols would be anything other than a fragmented and ever shifting treadmill of work to write compatible software for. [15:35] schestowitz I did, in fact, develop a similar product for a very specific niche market with about 200 potential customers worldwide, whom I sold about 70 copies of the Palm Pilot software to. While I was actively developing that product, the maker of the ECU was changing their output formats with every new release. My software was easily adaptable, I could accommodate a new format in about 15 minutes of coding and just have the users input what the [15:35] schestowitz ir ECU software version number was to set to the correct interpreter. Those were just space delimited ASCII tables going RS-232 over standard connectors. The manufacturer promised a more stable binary formatted protocol "any day now" for about 2 years while I was developing my product (directly competitive with the software they distributed for laptop PCs - which would you rather have in the passenger seat of a Miata: a laptop, or a Pal [15:35] schestowitz m Pilot?).. anyway, my new copy sales tapered off and I eventually quit releasing new versions, and miracle of miracles, they quit putting out new formats, and that stable binary format came out about 6 months later. Apple iOS and Android fight with each other like this all the time, Microsoft was famous for it back in the day. Software may make some aspects of modern life more productive, but the creation of compatible interacting soft [15:35] schestowitz ware from different vendors invites horrible backstabbing make-work for all involved." [15:35] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-patentlyo.com | 2021 | Patently-O [15:35] schestowitz https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=23/12/16/0333224#1336864 [15:36] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-soylentnews.org | New Ideas Are Out ThereWe Just Need to Look for Them - SoylentNews [15:37] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@u8ftxtfux23wk.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Dec 18 [21:36] *psydroid2 has quit (Quit: KVIrc 5.0.0 Aria http://www.kvirc.net/) ● Dec 18 [23:18] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:18] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #techbytes