IRC: #techbytes @ FreeNode: Saturday, June 19, 2021

-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@BlueelvisEric: @ZombieJohnGotti @schestowitz Comparing food to humans is an interesting take.

https://twitter.com/BMcC1781/status/1406018043566755843

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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@BMcC1781: @schestowitz So, given that you're clearly a proponent of abortion, with hindsight being 20/20, given the choice (u… https://t.co/nkfWKO4Wb9

-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@BMcC1781: @schestowitz So, given that you're clearly a proponent of abortion, with hindsight being 20/20, given the choice (u… https://t.co/nkfWKO4Wb9

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"So, given that you're clearly a proponent of abortion, with hindsight being 20/20, given the choice (unlike the unborn), would you prefer that you would have been aborted?"

https://twitter.com/BMcC1781/status/1406017681661251584

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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@BMcC1781: @schestowitz You see, the fundamental difference is that livestock is raised specifically for food. It's purpose is… https://t.co/8pygIfzOWc

-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@BMcC1781: @schestowitz You see, the fundamental difference is that livestock is raised specifically for food. It's purpose is… https://t.co/8pygIfzOWc

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"You see, the fundamental difference is that livestock is raised specifically for food. It's purpose is to be killed and consumed. An unborn baby isn't meant is to be killed at the whim of convenience. Your argument isn't even false equivalence. It's comparing apples to airplanes."

https://twitter.com/Celia63927361/status/1406026233129885696

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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Celia63927361: @ZombieJohnGotti @schestowitz My dad raised animals so we could see where our food came from. Pigs wiggle their ta… https://t.co/mvY8lQ5uta

-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Celia63927361: @ZombieJohnGotti @schestowitz My dad raised animals so we could see where our food came from. Pigs wiggle their ta… https://t.co/mvY8lQ5uta

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'My dad raised animals so we could see where our food came from. Pigs wiggle their tails and love scratches. I still eat them."

https://twitter.com/stuart0415/status/1406013971149230081

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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@stuart0415: @schestowitz Are you a PETA spokesperson? That sounds like something they would say.

https://twitter.com/PresidentOfDCBP/status/1406012360309891073

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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@PresidentOfDCBP: @schestowitz I'm ok with that, actually. Then I'm better prepared to thank God for the bounty he has provided us.

https://twitter.com/maxxflyy27/status/1406004165755744262

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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@maxxflyy27: @schestowitz The rest of my meat for the year. https://t.co/FHv3QQ40hZ

-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@maxxflyy27: @schestowitz The rest of my meat for the year. https://t.co/FHv3QQ40hZ

https://twitter.com/maxxflyy27/status/1406003952974454787

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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@maxxflyy27: @schestowitz Most of my meat for the year... https://t.co/pRIlnLtpD8

-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@maxxflyy27: @schestowitz Most of my meat for the year... https://t.co/pRIlnLtpD8

https://twitter.com/maxxflyy27/status/1406003596043378688

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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@maxxflyy27: @schestowitz Fine by me.

https://twitter.com/Newnameel/status/1405999892087070722

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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Newnameel: @schestowitz What’s on the ultrasound you don’t want seen?

https://twitter.com/BMcC1781/status/1405999600436133888

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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@BMcC1781: @schestowitz I raise, slaughter, and butcher my own livestock. It's not for commercial consumption. I not only have… https://t.co/t2dfaH1v7v

-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@BMcC1781: @schestowitz I raise, slaughter, and butcher my own livestock. It's not for commercial consumption. I not only have… https://t.co/t2dfaH1v7v

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"I raise, slaughter, and butcher my own livestock. It's not for commercial consumption. I not only have pictures of my food, I've spent time caring for them. Even helped with their birth. What now?"

https://twitter.com/backatchaslick/status/1405990465942528001

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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@backatchaslick: @schestowitz And will be telling your child they are the same as a chicken, right?

https://twitter.com/backatchaslick/status/1405990011611365378

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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@backatchaslick: @schestowitz Because we are simply animals with no souls, right?

https://twitter.com/shepherd_book/status/1405979759717150720

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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@shepherd_book: @LaPrietaLinda9 @schestowitz That's "A Modest Proposal." :/

https://twitter.com/EdHughes15/status/1405976912124645377

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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@EdHughes15: @schestowitz OK, as a meat eater, I'll do it. However, I fail to see the comparison comparable but then again your… https://t.co/k6ZjSG0Zxv

-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@EdHughes15: @schestowitz OK, as a meat eater, I'll do it. However, I fail to see the comparison comparable but then again your… https://t.co/k6ZjSG0Zxv

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"OK, as a meat eater, I'll do it. However, I fail to see the comparison comparable but then again your the doctor. Killing a human being vs. a calf or cow, really?"

https://twitter.com/Tmann72687526/status/1405976748748161026

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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Tmann72687526: @schestowitz Did you even think about this before hitting send? You're actually comparing a human fetus to a steer… https://t.co/iyea7QJw1v

-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Tmann72687526: @schestowitz Did you even think about this before hitting send? You're actually comparing a human fetus to a steer… https://t.co/iyea7QJw1v

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Did you even think about this before hitting send?

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You're actually comparing a human fetus to a steer that was raised to be ribeyes.

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Wtf is wrong with you?

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https://twitter.com/TommygoIrish/status/1405975893919551489

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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@TommygoIrish: I'd be ok with this. I like to know where my meat is coming from, and whom I'm eating. https://t.co/XLDSNZpb5N

-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: Some people want to pass laws that force people to watch ultrasound of an embryo before abortion. But instead, how… https://t.co/prDYPKFAJm

https://twitter.com/disciple96/status/1405975496496758787

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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@disciple96: @schestowitz Abortion is intrinsically evil while eating meat may not be desired by one person but desired by anoth… https://t.co/OqojdGpyJY

-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@disciple96: @schestowitz Abortion is intrinsically evil while eating meat may not be desired by one person but desired by anoth… https://t.co/OqojdGpyJY

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"Abortion is intrinsically evil while eating meat may not be desired by one person but desired by another. There is no comparison. These things are nowhere near the same. Why would you campaign for the cow “instead” of the human at any stage?"

https://twitter.com/ErrorGpf/status/1405975239180292098

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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@ErrorGpf: @schestowitz LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL....'dOcToR', just like Jill. You're a joker. Also, if you're going to parade a… https://t.co/2AnBUSuGPA

-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@ErrorGpf: @schestowitz LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL....'dOcToR', just like Jill. You're a joker. Also, if you're going to parade a… https://t.co/2AnBUSuGPA

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LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL....'dOcToR', just like Jill.

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You're a joker.

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Also, if you're going to parade a pic at least fix your bowtie and hankie.

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https://twitter.com/Tmann72687526/status/1405974949890859012

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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Tmann72687526: @schestowitz I have no problem with that. I usually pull the trigger myself on most meat in my freezer.

https://twitter.com/ErrorGpf/status/1405974507337228292

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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@ErrorGpf: @schestowitz OK, go ahead. I'll even pet the damned thing right before it's butchered. Your failed attempt at an an… https://t.co/bL3w0AWrOu

-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@ErrorGpf: @schestowitz OK, go ahead. I'll even pet the damned thing right before it's butchered. Your failed attempt at an an… https://t.co/bL3w0AWrOu

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OK, go ahead.

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I'll even pet the damned thing right before it's butchered.

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Your failed attempt at an analogy falls into the category of logical fallacies under "False equivalence".

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If you're really a doctor, you're a rather dim one.

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https://twitter.com/ded0n1s/status/1405974061151186947

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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@ded0n1s: @schestowitz https://t.co/HrGLS9ZSV8

-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@ded0n1s: @schestowitz https://t.co/HrGLS9ZSV8

https://twitter.com/baseball_cali/status/1405973723367178241

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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@baseball_cali: @schestowitz https://t.co/rg7zaflPXS

-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@baseball_cali: @schestowitz https://t.co/rg7zaflPXS

https://twitter.com/NotBruinOregon/status/1405973710952013826

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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@NotBruinOregon: @schestowitz Ok.

https://twitter.com/Dave03835/status/1405973168318304257

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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Dave03835: @schestowitz Babies aren’t like steaks.

https://twitter.com/Rbaker4NM36/status/1405973111229407232

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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Rbaker4NM36: @schestowitz Fine with me, at least I can be sure its real beef or pork or chicken vs the crap lefties want us to eat

https://twitter.com/franklion2014/status/1405972814075736065

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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@franklion2014: Animals that eat their own should be applied to human beings https://t.co/aTQTIwCMJp

https://twitter.com/studio_walters/status/1405960937287438344

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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@studio_walters: @schestowitz *rolls eyes in farm kid*

https://twitter.com/jayhafe/status/1405914599082319873

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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@jayhafe: @schestowitz I’d be ok with this. Cows aren’t people. I have chickens in the back yard. You can guess their purpose.

https://twitter.com/ZombieJohnGotti/status/1405902872479416320

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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@ZombieJohnGotti: @schestowitz I am perfectly fine at seeing a picture. I've seen the cow whose beef is in my freezer right now.

https://twitter.com/Flavia0847/status/1405891624450805769

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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Flavia0847: Building a better mousetrap? https://t.co/OTSzaB9PU9

-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: #patents on rifles that kill #animals for 'sport' https://t.co/CYpdmaB9jw

https://twitter.com/STEPHENOGORMA19/status/1405891033171480579

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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@STEPHENOGORMA19: @schestowitz Are you really drawing a comparison with a human being and a calf? Give your head a wobble you clown!

https://twitter.com/WanFadzrul/status/1405886702850244611

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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@WanFadzrul: @schestowitz Personally i have slaughtered a chicken. We were in a farm homestay.

https://twitter.com/chaz_6/status/1405881918663561217

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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@chaz_6: @schestowitz KDE has forked Qt 5. https://t.co/iK2FXWwLya

-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> dot.kde.org | Announcing KDE's Qt 5 Patch Collection | KDE.news

https://twitter.com/LaPrietaLinda9/status/1405866049669582849

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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@LaPrietaLinda9: @schestowitz I guess you’ll be one of the first to order a plate if eating human fetuses becomes legal.

https://twitter.com/SarahQuiring1/status/1405863526254755841

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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@SarahQuiring1: @schestowitz Do you compare all women to cows, or do you just say this on Twitter to show how much you'd like to em… https://t.co/rxsVrrwo95

-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@SarahQuiring1: @schestowitz Do you compare all women to cows, or do you just say this on Twitter to show how much you'd like to em… https://t.co/rxsVrrwo95

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Do you compare all women to cows, or do you just say this on Twitter to show how much you'd like to empower women?

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Well, I hope she sees this, Doctor.

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https://twitter.com/notusingmynam/status/1405863151640449024

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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@notusingmynam: @schestowitz joining twitter taught me that well educated people like you are no better or smarter than less educated people

https://twitter.com/smarshallwilson/status/1405862043559866369

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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@smarshallwilson: @schestowitz I'm good with this. I'd like to have some indication that my meal was healthy at the time of slaughter… https://t.co/Mx4oMUvwxj

-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@smarshallwilson: @schestowitz I'm good with this. I'd like to have some indication that my meal was healthy at the time of slaughter… https://t.co/Mx4oMUvwxj

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I'm good with this.

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I'd like to have some indication that my meal was healthy at the time of slaughter.

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What sort of deranged sociopath equates the murder of tiny humans with the slaughter of animals?

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Is it one who equates humans with farm animals?

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What is the logical conclusion?

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https://twitter.com/Leprakon76/status/1405861668983246848

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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Leprakon76: @schestowitz Make it time stamped so we know it’s fresh

https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/1405861588406571009

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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@glynmoody: or scenes from inside an abattoir... https://t.co/RKJpH4mfHK

-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: Some people want to pass laws that force people to watch ultrasound of an embryo before abortion. But instead, how… https://t.co/prDYPKFAJm

https://twitter.com/Prolife_Sam/status/1405861154270875649

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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Prolife_Sam: Killing animals ≠ killing humans https://t.co/E61JSDuKkQ

https://twitter.com/VoiceOfRzn604/status/1405838182256562181

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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@VoiceOfRzn604: @schestowitz Desmog is a propaganda rag. 95% of indigenous nations along the route of the tmx support it.

https://twitter.com/h_ckrh_rt/status/1405806632219578368

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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@h_ckrh_rt: You attack RMS, You attack @fsf, You attack #GPL, You attack #GCC... You threaten with unemployment. We will have t… https://t.co/YGFw7s8xOR

-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@h_ckrh_rt: You attack RMS, You attack @fsf, You attack #GPL, You attack #GCC... You threaten with unemployment. We will have t… https://t.co/YGFw7s8xOR

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You attack RMS, You attack @fsf

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, You attack #GPL, You attack #GCC... You threaten with unemployment.

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We will have the last laugh. Happy hacking #gnu #freesw

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https://twitter.com/h_ckrh_rt/status/1405765526287126529

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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@h_ckrh_rt: @fsf @9to5linux @afromusing @ArianaGrande Check out what Kenyans have decided @schestowitz @tuxmachines @itsfoss2

https://twitter.com/chaz_6/status/1405763657833750537

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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@chaz_6: @schestowitz Try https://t.co/joEH9pbWO2 instead!

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https://twitter.com/Celia63927361/status/1406026233129885696

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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Celia63927361: @ZombieJohnGotti @schestowitz My dad raised animals so we could see where our food came from. Pigs wiggle their ta… https://t.co/mvY8lQ5uta

-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Celia63927361: @ZombieJohnGotti @schestowitz My dad raised animals so we could see where our food came from. Pigs wiggle their ta… https://t.co/mvY8lQ5uta

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[01:48] <phobos> Sorry boss... should have asked them to move it sooner

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[01:50] <schestowitz> it's OK

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old:

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Tried to send this in IRC, but I guess you are offline

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[20:56] <schestowitz> ping

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[20:59] <schestowitz> this is completely untrue, I did in fact criticise rasengan a lot, even to his face, in his network

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[20:59] <schestowitz> I very clearly highlighted issues with both networks

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[20:59] <schestowitz> condemned him publicly and to his face

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[20:59] <schestowitz> you probably did not see that

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Can we discuss on phone/IRC, please?

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Hi,

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On Sat, 29 May 2021, Roy Schestowitz wrote:

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> [20:56] <schestowitz> ping

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> [20:59] <schestowitz> this is completely untrue, I did in fact criticise

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> rasengan a lot, even to his face, in his network

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> [20:59] <schestowitz> I very clearly highlighted issues with both networks

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> [20:59] <schestowitz> condemned him publicly and to his face

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> [20:59] <schestowitz> you probably did not see that

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> Can we discuss on phone/IRC, please?

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You are usermode +R. Feel free to come talk to me on Libera, or OFTC. I won't legitimize the "new" freenode with my presence. What Andrew did represents a direct attack on the particular area of software freedom and digital autonomy I've spent my entire adulthood advocating for, as I elaborated in the Atheme open letter on this issue. As far as I am concerned, he is just another bad actor, much like the patent trolls and corporations.

https://twitter.com/BrassVon/status/1406111200157569026

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*psydroid reads up and realises very quickly why he has never really bothered with social media

Jun 19 06:42

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Jun 19 06:51

-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@BrassVon: I'd be okay with that https://t.co/6UPy960MzI

Jun 19 06:51

-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: Some people want to pass laws that force people to watch ultrasound of an embryo before abortion. But instead, how… https://t.co/prDYPKFAJm

Jun 19 06:51

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https://twitter.com/SgtKOnyx/status/1406109542971318274

-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@SgtKOnyx: @schestowitz Ok. Despite the moral differences between humans and animals I still accept your terms

https://twitter.com/CXLCultureCXLD/status/1406106094825447424

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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@CXLCultureCXLD: @Autumn__Fox @schestowitz We are, but not all animals are created equal.

https://twitter.com/CXLCultureCXLD/status/1406105874142167042

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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@CXLCultureCXLD: I'm fine with both. I'm not a coward. Do we have a deal? https://t.co/gHNvGTiiik

https://twitter.com/CXLCultureCXLD/status/1406105768483430401

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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@CXLCultureCXLD: @schestowitz I'm fine with both. I'm not a coward. Do we have a deal?

https://twitter.com/MrsJLovesJesus/status/1406035110944657415

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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@MrsJLovesJesus: @schestowitz I don’t see a problem here 🤷🏻‍♀️ I’m perfectly aware of where meat comes from, how it is raised, fed,… https://t.co/p83lC95mLh

-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@MrsJLovesJesus: @schestowitz I don’t see a problem here 🤷🏻‍♀️ I’m perfectly aware of where meat comes from, how it is raised, fed,… https://t.co/p83lC95mLh

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"I don’t see a problem here Woman shrugging I’m perfectly aware of where meat comes from, how it is raised, fed, and slaughtered. I doubt you can say the same for the barbarism of abortion."

https://twitter.com/BlueelvisEric/status/1406030523361857536

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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@BlueelvisEric: @LauraWhitt32 @schestowitz Because he eats them?

https://twitter.com/BlueelvisEric/status/1406030293979615235

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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@BlueelvisEric: @LesterDent @schestowitz Veal...

x https://www.pcworld.com/article/3622234/shop-amazon-prime-day-using-microsoft-edge.html

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Re: searX and the survival curve

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> Roy,

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> I came across techrights when i ran a search [via startpage] checking up

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> on start page.

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> I knew ixquick died a horrible death when its homepage changed, howver,

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> having interviewed

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> its founders long before, I stuck with it until I could find something

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> else.

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> Occasional forays into the realm of the duck raised the same failures of

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> the smell test.

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We wrote about that too:

http://techrights.org/2021/03/15/duckduckgo-in-2021/

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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | Why You Should Avoid DuckDuckGo (DDG) 2021 Edition, Now Microsoft-Hosted and With Extra Privacy Risks | Techrights

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DDG seems to be working hard to hide/censor its critics.

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> Your post [god knows when] outed the obviously corrupted new startpage

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> but denoted searX

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> as a place that we concerned citizens might wish to set down and rest.

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> It doens't look exactly run-ready, nor terrible user friendly, but it

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> has broght me to your doorstep, which

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> may be in the last town to host a legitimate newspaper on gods

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> once-green earth. [the manchester guardian

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> called manchester home before it went to london and got bought off] But

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> how hard it is in this billionista world

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> to say what muhammed ali told the succession of fly by night promoters

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> who wanted to sponsor his next fight

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> while he was awaiting arranginment for refusing to go to vietnam, which

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> was: keep yo' damn money fool!

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> But enough about me.

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> This post is friendly, lightly beseeching and seemingly intended to

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> ingratiate my value as a

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> correspondent with you for purposes yet unclear, perhaps, to you.

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> In addition to wishing to be secure online, I work on related topics and

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> intend to write about it, in a markedly

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> consumer-level manner, in future journalistic efforts (for past, see NY

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> Times, VVI, EU, East & South Asia and

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> other US clips) As per why protect the proles & pros. Hard to say; the

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> question rarely comes up. A presto,

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> Frank

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> Franks Tip Sheet

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> 2323 Times Square,

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> NYNYNY 10108 [county, city and state]

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> 2122524002

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> s@schestowitz.com

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> 104 Dalton Street, Greater Manchester, United Kingdom, M40 7ED

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> is the street named after the french revolutionalist who said: when

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> there's free press, the nation can't but be a republic?

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I have not lived there for a very long time.

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For more about Startpage:

http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Startpage

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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | Startpage - Techrights

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We need more people to cover EPO scandals:

http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/EPO

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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | EPO - Techrights

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>>> Hi,

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>>>

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>>> Do you know where to find this PPT on WIPO website?

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>>>

>>> http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/8-Ficsor-Lecture-2010.ppt

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>>>

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>>> Alberto of FFII Spain has the copyright on some kayak vs boat images.

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>> You think of enforcing? :-)

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> Against WIPO that would be fun :-)