●● IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, March 20, 2022 ●● ● Mar 20 [00:00] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [00:02] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@yw4uadn4c3y84.irc) has joined #techbytes [00:17] *DaemonFC has quit (connection closed) [00:18] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@yw4uadn4c3y84.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Mar 20 [01:36] *DaemonFC has quit (connection closed) [01:38] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@gw9mdreadq2ki.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Mar 20 [03:34] schestowitz old, redacted: [03:34] schestowitz [Sunday, 2 January 2022] [21:37:23 GMT]<> i have now switched all machines to using iSCSI WWNs instead of /dev/sdX [03:34] schestowitz [Sunday, 2 January 2022] [21:37:42 GMT] I herad of such an issue with Debian 11 recently [03:34] schestowitz [Sunday, 2 January 2022] [21:38:02 GMT] but it's not alpine, though some people moaned about sdX being unpredictable [03:34] schestowitz [Tuesday, 4 January 2022] [06:32:33 GMT]<> that craigslist dude with the ram offered to drop off the ram so im having somebody go install it in about an hour or so [03:34] schestowitz [Tuesday, 4 January 2022] [08:17:35 GMT] sure, sounds good [03:34] schestowitz [Tuesday, 4 January 2022] [08:17:46 GMT] let me know a bit in advance so I can prepare [03:34] schestowitz [Tuesday, 4 January 2022] [08:17:58 GMT]<> it will be in ~5 minutes or so, probably. [03:34] schestowitz [Tuesday, 4 January 2022] [08:20:30 GMT] excellent, I will take a break from posting etc. [03:34] schestowitz [Tuesday, 4 January 2022] [08:20:44 GMT]<> going down in ~30s [03:34] schestowitz [Tuesday, 4 January 2022] [08:21:03 GMT] kk [03:34] schestowitz [16:42] <> hi, you're pissing off some powerful people, so i was wondering if there was a way i could obfuscate my involvement in this somehow [03:34] schestowitz [16:42] <> also known as: i don't want to be sued and/or fired for drama connected to techrights [03:34] schestowitz [16:44] ah, yes [03:34] schestowitz [16:44] they cannot sue you [03:34] schestowitz [16:44] they play games [03:34] schestowitz [16:44] if they try to sue someone, it's me [03:34] schestowitz [16:45] but they would not, as the facts do stack up [03:34] schestowitz [16:47] <> anybody can sue anybody for any reason in the US [03:35] schestowitz [16:47] I would take over that as liable [03:35] schestowitz [16:47] and fight back [03:35] schestowitz [16:47] but it's EXTREMELY unlikely they would do it [03:35] schestowitz [16:48] it's manipulative muscle-flexing [03:35] schestowitz [16:49] <> sure, and that's a valid position, but i think my position of wanting to obfuscate my involvement is also reasonable [03:35] schestowitz [16:50] <> so i am wondering -- we need to modernize the infrastructure hosting the site (it is still old CentOS containers with security vulnerabilities and one is not getting updates anymore) [03:35] schestowitz [16:51] yes, very true [03:35] schestowitz [16:51] we've long wanted to migrate to a new OS [03:35] schestowitz [16:51] <> what if we launched this stuff on infrastructure not controlled by me, like Linode or something [03:35] schestowitz [16:51] then they would target Linode [03:35] schestowitz [16:51] did you get any threats in past 12 months? [03:35] schestowitz [16:52] the tiger thing is a gas because the threat contradicts what they say [03:35] schestowitz [16:52] <> i'm more concerned about your ongoing fight with xxxxxxx [03:35] schestowitz [16:52] the fight is old [03:35] schestowitz [16:52] it ended 2 months ago [03:35] schestowitz [16:53] <> he's moved on from working in FOSS, and he is worried about your attacks against him jeopardizing his new teaching position [03:35] schestowitz [16:54] <> you are, of course, free to have whatever editorial decisions you want to make, but *I* do not want to fuck over somebody who has voluntarily removed themselves from the calculus [03:35] schestowitz [16:55] we hardly mention him anymore [03:35] schestowitz [16:56] in fact, let me assure you right now I have no intention of touching that subject again [03:35] schestowitz [16:56] EPO is my focus these years [03:35] schestowitz [16:57] http://techrights.org/2022/01/30/shuffling-chairs-on-the-epo-titanic/ http://techrights.org/2022/01/30/team-upc-always-next-year/ [03:35] schestowitz [16:57] these are important battles [03:35] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | Shuffling the EPO Deck to Cover Up Crimes, EPC Violations, Attacks on Judges Etc. While Promoting Illegal and Unconstitutional UPC | Techrights [03:35] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | Classic Team UPC: This Year Becomes Next Year Yet Again | Techrights [03:35] schestowitz [16:57] those two posts are <1 hour old [03:35] schestowitz [16:57] <> I would appreciate it then if you could come to an agreement with xxxxxxx to address his concern [03:35] schestowitz [16:57] what's at stake is the future of software patents and prosecution in Europe [03:35] schestowitz [16:58] the FOSS thing is a side show [03:35] schestowitz [16:58] tell xxxxxxxxx he's off my radar [03:35] schestowitz [16:58] I focus on patents [03:35] schestowitz [16:58] he can leave me alone [03:35] schestowitz [16:58] I would leave him alone, too [03:35] schestowitz [16:58] <> will you remove pre-existing content about him? [03:35] schestowitz [16:58] no, that would damage our values as a site [03:35] schestowitz [16:59] <> because if I get pulled into litigation with xxxxxxxxxx as collateral damage, or if my upstream disconnects me because of litigation with xxxxxxxxxx, you will be impacting projects and initiatives that are more important to me than techrights [03:35] schestowitz [16:59] he should not do that [03:35] schestowitz [16:59] unless it's a very sinister agenda [03:35] schestowitz [16:59] he can talk to me by email [03:35] schestowitz [16:59] <> if you corner an animal, they tend to lash out [03:35] schestowitz [16:59] hut he tried to talk by threats [03:35] schestowitz [17:00] <> not threats, realities [03:35] schestowitz [17:00] I could sue him [03:36] schestowitz [17:00] I said it a year agop [03:36] schestowitz [17:00] he defamed me also [03:36] schestowitz [17:00] he needs to move on [03:36] schestowitz [17:00] and he can [03:36] schestowitz [17:01] <> i think another important thing is [03:36] schestowitz [17:02] <> i just took a high-profile job working for a company that is trying to solve software freedom issues in ways you find personally disagreeable [03:36] schestowitz [17:02] probably not so disagreeable [03:36] schestowitz [17:02] but "sub-optimal" [03:36] schestowitz [17:02] which is not the same thing [03:36] schestowitz [17:02] <> uhh, we want to launch a secondary CA for UEFI secure boot [03:36] schestowitz [17:02] I work and cooperate with many people in that position, even patent examiners [03:36] schestowitz [17:03] secondary one is OK [03:36] schestowitz [17:03] better than what we have now [03:36] schestowitz [17:03] seems like a step in a better direction, esp. if switch exists to disable it [03:36] schestowitz [17:03] <> yes, but some of the people involved launched xxxxxxxxxxx, and you describe that as evil, because linux foundation [03:36] schestowitz [17:03] not evil [03:36] schestowitz [17:03] I said, [03:36] schestowitz [17:03] they are a risk of monopoly [03:36] schestowitz [17:04] or rather, one point of failure [03:36] schestowitz [17:04] which is contrary to federation [03:36] schestowitz [17:04] <> everything about the xxxxx project is FOSS, nothing stops somebody else from setting up another CA other than the $$$$$$$ required to do it [03:36] schestowitz [17:05] yeah, but the reality is that xxxxxxxx is taking over the cert pool [03:36] schestowitz [17:05] and meanwhile browsers get more fussy about the CAs [03:36] schestowitz [17:05] so at the end that's one org with a lot of power to censor or block access to sites [03:36] schestowitz [17:05] they are aware of this pitfall [03:36] schestowitz [17:06] <> anyway, given that i took a high-profile job at a company i am sure you will eventually want to cover (hopefully positively, but i'm sure we will eventually do something you find disagreeable, you can't expect people to bat 1000) [03:36] schestowitz [17:06] <> how can you cover said company with any integrity if i can just turn your stuff off? [03:36] schestowitz [17:06] thanks for the headsup [03:36] schestowitz [17:06] it's good to know about the loyalties people have [03:36] schestowitz [17:06] to not tread on mates [03:36] schestowitz [17:07] <> i'm not saying i would, i'm just saying hypothetically [03:36] schestowitz [17:07] lately we've focused too much on patents [03:36] schestowitz [17:07] the rest goes in Daily Links mostly [03:36] schestowitz [17:07] <> say you piss off my employer, and they tell me i need to solve this or i am fired [03:36] schestowitz [17:07] this is a conscious decision [03:36] schestowitz [17:08] I doubt I would be harsh on them [03:36] schestowitz [17:08] if it's an alternative to Microsoft [03:36] schestowitz [17:08] like OOXML support in LibreOffice [03:36] schestowitz [17:08] better than ODF inside Offic [03:36] schestowitz [17:08] <> well, it was started by people who were tired of microsoft stonewalling in various spaces relating to the software distribution supply chain [03:37] schestowitz [17:08] even if the format itself is bad, at least it helps move to libreoffice [03:37] schestowitz [17:08] <> so, yes, i don't think i would describe xxxxx as "pro-microsoft" [03:37] schestowitz [17:09] that's good [03:37] schestowitz [17:09] at least I know upfront, too [03:37] schestowitz [17:12] <> i'm sure you're aware of FEDRAMP and all the other regulations that have come out where if you're working on systems that process personal data, you have to be able to prove that you know where all of the components of that system came from [03:37] schestowitz [17:12] <> and that they are all receiving security support [03:37] schestowitz [17:12] <> there's basically two competing proposals to solve this problem [03:37] schestowitz [17:13] yes, i read about it [03:37] schestowitz [17:13] <> one comes from microsoft (and is basically vaporware) [03:37] schestowitz [17:13] those are "box-ticking exercise" [03:37] schestowitz [17:13] while they peddle back doors [03:37] schestowitz [17:13] they talk about security with the other side of the mouth [03:37] schestowitz [17:13] <> xxx is trying to actually solve this problem for real [03:37] schestowitz [17:14] <> in a way that elevates FOSS projects [03:37] schestowitz [17:14] for real rather than pretense [03:37] schestowitz [17:15] 'open'POWER [03:37] schestowitz [17:15] now with more blobs [03:37] schestowitz [17:15] :-) ● Mar 20 [05:08] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Mar 20 [06:46] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@hngiv8sdpiaf2.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Mar 20 [07:43] schestowitz

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2021 hardcore list of linux distributions without elogind and other systemd parts

[07:43] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-sysdfree.wordpress.com | 2021 hardcore list of linux distributions without elogind and other systemd parts | systemd-free linux community [07:43] schestowitz

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This list is going to be short and there may be a sublist of distros with a medium strict standard. We shall explain what the object is, below the short list (which we hope the community will assist in making longer as we have not been able to currently review the work of every distro and fork).

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The Kudu Laptop: What System76 Does Best

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[07:46] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-boilingsteam.com | The Kudu Laptop: What System76 Does Best - Boiling Steam [07:46] schestowitz
System76 had unveiled their new Kudu laptop earlier in February. I was fortunate enough to be able to get a review unit (albeit its not new; its refurbished. I didnt get any stickers!). Featuring a Ryzen 9 5900HX processor and a RTX 3060, Im once again a spoiled gamer for just a few weeks. Its fairly similar to the Tuxedo Stellaris I had reviewed several months ago, with the same processor, same RAM capacity, [07:46] schestowitz same storage, but a few classes behind on the RTX family. Heres my thoughts on the device.
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The process of taking the Kudu apart and replacing various system components is very simple and theres even documentation for it. Very few competitors would offer that sort of transparency. Well touch on that later.

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