●● IRC: #techbytes @ FreeNode: Friday, November 20, 2020 ●● ● Nov 20 [00:54] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [00:54] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [00:54] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-173-112.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes [00:56] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-173-112.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes ● Nov 20 [02:06] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techbytes ● Nov 20 [06:30] *GNUmoon has quit (Remote host closed the connection) ● Nov 20 [07:09] schestowitz sternb [07:09] schestowitz > schestowitz [07:09] schestowitz > figosdev says GIAFAM for IBM [07:09] schestowitz > Nov 18 15:14 [07:09] schestowitz > 18 15:14:18> [07:09] schestowitz > schestowitz [07:09] schestowitz > Oracle is never named [07:09] schestowitz > Nov 18 15:14 [07:09] schestowitz > 18 15:14:22> [07:09] schestowitz > schestowitz [07:09] schestowitz > or Salesforce... both do software and always malicious [07:09] schestowitz > [07:09] schestowitz > [07:09] schestowitz > [07:09] schestowitz > Salesforce wasn't on our radar until they ratfucked Stallman. [07:09] schestowitz > [07:09] schestowitz > Oracle does not have the kind of presence in my life that GIAFAM do. If [07:09] schestowitz > I don't want to use Oracle-- I just don't use Oracle. I know they were [07:09] schestowitz > bad enough to start TR when it was BN-- how many years ago? I know they [07:09] schestowitz > haven't changed. [07:09] schestowitz > [07:09] schestowitz > The acronym can only get so long before it's the alphabet. These are the [07:09] schestowitz > six companies fucking the tech world the hardest, though we don't count [07:09] schestowitz > behind the scenes stuff. I mean we could call it GIAFAMP for Palantir, [07:09] schestowitz > and when they start fucking with the code bases for Python, udev, KHTML, [07:09] schestowitz > Wget, and practically EVERYTHING, we can add them. I just named projects [07:09] schestowitz > affected by GIAFM, respectively. [07:09] schestowitz > [07:09] schestowitz > Amazon steals ebooks from paying customers and threatens all public [07:09] schestowitz > libraries-- that's pretty fundamentally evil. [07:09] schestowitz > [07:09] schestowitz > I only added the I after they tried to replace GNU with a planet-sized [07:10] schestowitz > turd and helped Microsoft co-own the largest GNU/Linux company in its [07:10] schestowitz > history. The other letters were already there. [07:10] schestowitz > [07:10] schestowitz > ---------------------- [07:10] schestowitz > [07:10] schestowitz > I do not entirely agree with vZS1 on this, but: [07:10] schestowitz > [07:10] schestowitz > http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/A_Critic%27s_Free_Software_Dictionary#Shut_up_and_code [07:10] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | A Critic's Free Software Dictionary - Techrights [07:10] schestowitz > [07:10] schestowitz > [07:10] schestowitz > [07:10] schestowitz > scientes [07:10] schestowitz > vZS1, they are *obliged*, but that doesn't mean they do [07:10] schestowitz > [07:10] schestowitz > scientes [07:10] schestowitz > and if you don't do anything then *you* are the problem [07:10] schestowitz > [07:10] schestowitz > [07:10] schestowitz > scientes [07:10] schestowitz > cybrNaut, I do mean programming [07:11] schestowitz > Somehow this: (checked the original) [07:11] schestowitz > [07:11] schestowitz > The FSF's IFF systems [07:11] schestowitz > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identification_friend_or_foe [07:11] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-en.wikipedia.org | Identification friend or foe - Wikipedia [07:12] schestowitz > are clearly [07:12] schestowitz > malfunctioning-- and if nothing else, we need to find a way to rebuild a [07:12] schestowitz > better one of those. [07:12] schestowitz > [07:12] schestowitz > Turned into this: [07:12] schestowitz > [07:12] schestowitz > The FSFs IFF systems [07:12] schestowitz > and if [07:12] schestowitz > nothing else, we need to find a way to rebuild a better one of those.** [07:12] schestowitz > [07:12] schestowitz > Would you fix? The only difference I can tell is "*are clearly [07:12] schestowitz > malfunctioning*", mice (mine at least) are notorious for this sort of thing. [07:12] schestowitz That must have happened while i edited the link [07:12] schestowitz sorry about that [07:12] schestowitz corrected now. [07:27] schestowitz > 1. The problem is only on my laptop, not on my iPad [07:27] schestowitz > 2. To describe the problem: After I have made an edit to a previously [07:27] schestowitz > published, I go to *Update*, (wait until the change is confirmed as [07:27] schestowitz > done) then I go to *Preview*. I cannot Preview, it is blocked by an [07:27] schestowitz > error message which pops up and says *Sorry, You are not allowed to [07:27] schestowitz > Preview Drafts.*" This happens to any published article, no matter if I [07:27] schestowitz > published it today or years ago. [07:27] schestowitz > 3. As far as I can remember, this problem started yesterday and was all [07:27] schestowitz > O.K. prior to that. Actually, I liked the new placement for Update and [07:27] schestowitz > Preview and all was going fine. [07:27] schestowitz If the problem happens with one device and now with another, then a good starting point would be to log out, log in again. [07:27] schestowitz Also, try deleting cookies in your browser. [07:27] schestowitz That's just to remove obvious problems.. [07:34] schestowitz > Thanks. You got "eith" as well. Cheers. [07:34] schestowitz Two articles ago there were some editing issues, like missing newlines, commas, sometimes two words stuck to each other. Maybe you used another editor that day. ● Nov 20 [08:21] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techbytes [08:23] *GNUmoon has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [08:23] *rianne has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [08:23] *asusbox has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [08:25] *asusbox (~rianne@host81-154-173-112.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes [08:25] *rianne (~rianne@host81-154-173-112.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes [08:47] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techbytes ● Nov 20 [18:19] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [18:20] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [18:20] schestowitz >>> 1. The problem is only on my laptop, not on my iPad [18:20] schestowitz >>> 2. To describe the problem: After I have made an edit to a previously [18:20] schestowitz >>> published, I go to *Update*, (wait until the change is confirmed as [18:20] schestowitz >>> done) then I go to *Preview*. I cannot Preview, it is blocked by an [18:20] schestowitz >>> error message which pops up and says *Sorry, You are not allowed to [18:20] schestowitz >>> Preview Drafts.*" This happens to any published article, no matter if I [18:20] schestowitz >>> published it today or years ago. [18:20] schestowitz >>> 3. As far as I can remember, this problem started yesterday and was all [18:20] schestowitz >>> O.K. prior to that. Actually, I liked the new placement for Update and [18:20] schestowitz >>> Preview and all was going fine. [18:20] schestowitz >> [18:20] schestowitz >> [18:20] schestowitz >> If the problem happens with one device and now with another, then a good [18:20] schestowitz >> starting point would be to log out, log in again. [18:20] schestowitz >> [18:20] schestowitz >> Also, try deleting cookies in your browser. [18:20] schestowitz >> [18:20] schestowitz >> That's just to remove obvious problems.. [18:20] schestowitz > *The problem is ONLY with the laptop thats why I thought it may be [18:20] schestowitz > related to an Update, because the glitch occurred mysteriously. * [18:20] schestowitz > * [18:20] schestowitz > * [18:20] schestowitz > *Nevertheless, I am optimistic about doing a logout/login before [18:20] schestowitz > a version switch-back and am anxious to try it but I am having a brain [18:20] schestowitz > foghow do I logout? [18:20] schestowitz > * [18:20] schestowitz There ought to be an option near the top of the side for logging off or logging out. To flush out browser cookie, or to find instructions on how to do it, you can search the web with your browser's name. [18:20] schestowitz I don't think updates caused this. Either way, you ought not apply wordpress updates. [18:22] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-173-112.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes [18:22] schestowitz > *Joseph Robinette Biden Jr. born November 20,1942, is president-elect of [18:22] schestowitz > the United States [18:22] schestowitz > . [18:22] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-en.wikipedia.org | President-elect of the United States - Wikipedia [18:22] schestowitz > Having defeated incumbent Donald Trump [18:22] schestowitz > in the 2020 United States [18:22] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-en.wikipedia.org | Donald Trump - Wikipedia [18:22] schestowitz > presidential election [18:22] schestowitz > , he [18:22] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-en.wikipedia.org | 2020 United States presidential election - Wikipedia [18:22] schestowitz > will be inaugurated as the 46th president [18:22] schestowitz > on January 20, [18:22] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-en.wikipedia.org | Inauguration of Joe Biden - Wikipedia [18:22] schestowitz > 2021. A member of the Democratic Party [18:22] schestowitz > , Biden [18:22] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-en.wikipedia.org | Democratic Party (United States) - Wikipedia [18:22] schestowitz > served as the 47th vice president [18:22] schestowitz > from [18:22] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-en.wikipedia.org | Vice President of the United States - Wikipedia [18:22] schestowitz > 2009 to 2017 during the Obama administration [18:22] schestowitz > . From 1973 to [18:22] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-en.wikipedia.org | Presidency of Barack Obama - Wikipedia [18:22] schestowitz > 2009, he served as a United States senator [18:22] schestowitz > for Delaware [18:22] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-en.wikipedia.org | United States Senate - Wikipedia [18:22] schestowitz > .* [18:22] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes- ( status 400 @ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delaware>.* ) [18:22] schestowitz > * [18:22] schestowitz > * [18:23] schestowitz > *News Flash: Im not sharing any of my birthday cake with Biden.* [18:23] schestowitz Both "major" presidential candidates were awful. Same as the long time (2016). The public loses either way. [18:23] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-173-112.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes [18:42] schestowitz > *Godwin's law is a recursive tautology:* as an online discussion grows [18:42] schestowitz > longer, the probability of a pedantic reference to Godwin's law [18:42] schestowitz > approaches 1. [18:42] schestowitz > [18:42] schestowitz > Yes I'm taking the piss. [18:42] schestowitz > [18:42] schestowitz > schestowitz [18:42] schestowitz > but figosdev especially hates that [18:42] schestowitz > [18:42] schestowitz > schestowitz [18:42] schestowitz > because nazis analogies have their place [18:42] schestowitz > This again? [18:42] schestowitz > [18:43] schestowitz > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M-DISC [18:43] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-en.wikipedia.org | M-DISC - Wikipedia [18:43] schestowitz > [18:43] schestowitz > [18:43] schestowitz > MinceR [18:43] schestowitz > CDs are badly designed [18:43] schestowitz > Nov 19 16:11 [18:43] schestowitz > 19 16:11:40> [18:43] schestowitz > MinceR [18:43] schestowitz > the data storage layer is sensitive to oxygen and it's only protected [18:43] schestowitz > by a layer of lacquer from one side [18:43] schestowitz > Nov 19 16:11 [18:43] schestowitz > 19 16:11:57> [18:43] schestowitz > MinceR [18:43] schestowitz > they fixed this in DVD [18:44] schestowitz >> Two articles ago there were some editing issues, like missing [18:44] schestowitz > newlines, commas, sometimes two words stuck to each other. Maybe you [18:44] schestowitz > used another editor that day. [18:44] schestowitz > [18:44] schestowitz > If it's the same one I think it is, I read it the next day, and wondered [18:44] schestowitz > if you removed all the commas. I checked the original, turns out I had [18:44] schestowitz > imagined most of them. How about that? [18:44] schestowitz > [18:44] schestowitz > I'd gone (most of) two days without sleep, I usually don't. The article [18:44] schestowitz > seemed alright. Probably would've been better to write drunk than as [18:44] schestowitz > tired as that (I'm actually not much of a drinker, I'm just naturally [18:44] schestowitz > pissy about what's happened to technology). It's not that I don't read [18:44] schestowitz > this stuff, but I was pretty weird at that point, it's a fact. [18:44] schestowitz > [18:44] schestowitz > At least I can read it now and know what the hell I was talking about. [18:44] schestowitz > What surprised me is that Tom liked it. Well, alright-- thanks very [18:44] schestowitz > much, really. If it ever happens again (I'm not promising) feel free to [18:44] schestowitz > hold it for a day and say "Hey, is this what you wanted?" [18:44] schestowitz > [18:44] schestowitz > Your call. I was never averse to you adding commas in the first place, [18:44] schestowitz > or removing them if you think it will help. Though for this example, [18:44] schestowitz > that would be a whole lot... [18:44] schestowitz At times where were missing whitespace too, but the spellchcker picks these up fast. [18:44] schestowitz > That is definitely not the picture/image/idea I would have chosen. I [18:44] schestowitz > would feel remiss if I didn't say so. [18:44] schestowitz > [18:44] schestowitz > But for an atheist like yourself to choose it, it is kind of funny, and [18:44] schestowitz > as a metaphor I certainly "get it". [18:44] schestowitz > [18:44] schestowitz > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ballad_of_John_and_Yoko [18:44] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-en.wikipedia.org | The Ballad of John and Yoko - Wikipedia [18:45] schestowitz > [18:45] schestowitz > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/More_popular_than_Jesus#Escalation_and_radio_bans [18:45] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-en.wikipedia.org | More popular than Jesus - Wikipedia [18:45] schestowitz > [18:45] schestowitz > [18:45] schestowitz > I didn't get the parachute one at first, either. [18:45] schestowitz > [18:45] schestowitz > The second time I visited the article (I do this when I'm sharing it [18:45] schestowitz > with other people or checking something) I was like, "hmm, yeah..." 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[21:14] schestowitz At your end, the modifications should be trivial: [21:14] schestowitz Replace the existing image with [21:14] schestowitz http://techrights.org/images/irc/html.png (full path is better because otherwise it won't show up when using RSS or aggregated from external sites.. including tuxmachines) [21:14] schestowitz Then [21:14] schestowitz Make the same HTML bits get generated again, this time for linking to the 4 text versions (will be uploaded for the first time today after midnight) [21:14] schestowitz Then make sure the files they link to are the same except ".txt" instead of "html" [21:14] schestowitz for image/icon, [21:14] schestowitz Use http://techrights.org/images/irc/text.png [21:14] schestowitz I think that the rest will be enough. [21:14] schestowitz I've just checked the IPFS bit for the posts is also OK. At the moment it shows 8 entries, we can worry about how to better present them later. [21:14] schestowitz IRC has been busier lately, with 65-75 people online in #techrights throughout the day and night. This weekend I'll try to do lots and lots of posts, though I work every evening. [21:19] schestowitz > That's a nice work-around, but I would like to find out what is at the [21:19] schestowitz > cause of the problem. How did you generate the string " " [21:19] schestowitz > and can it be throwing a bad or incomplete character in the middle? [21:19] schestowitz Those are typically maths symbols. [21:19] schestowitz I could just as well replace them, as sometimes I do. But considering the possibility odd chars can come from other people, tweets, etc. we might be safer to just eliminate all the fancy chars. [21:19] schestowitz Is ascii OK? Maybe we should choose another chairset in iconv [21:19] schestowitz from manpage: [21:19] schestowitz -t to-encoding, --to-code=to-encoding [21:19] schestowitz Use to-encoding for output characters. [21:19] schestowitz If the string //IGNORE is appended to to-encoding, characters that cannot be converted are discarded and an error is printed after conversion. [21:19] schestowitz If the string //TRANSLIT is appended to to-encoding, characters being converted are transliterated when needed and possible. This means that when a character [21:19] schestowitz cannot be represented in the target character set, it can be approximated through one or several similar looking characters. Characters that are outside of the [21:19] schestowitz target character set and cannot be transliterated are replaced with a question mark (?) in the output. [21:19] schestowitz EXAMPLE [21:19] schestowitz Convert text from the ISO 8859-15 character encoding to UTF-8: [21:19] schestowitz $ iconv -f ISO-8859-15 -t UTF-8 < input.txt > output.txt [21:19] schestowitz It does not say which ones I supported and I suppose it depends on the system. 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