●● IRC: #techbytes @ FreeNode: Thursday, January 21, 2021 ●● ● Jan 21 [02:02] *gry (~test@unaffiliated/gryllida) has joined #techbytes ● Jan 21 [03:40] *acerbox (~acer-box@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #techbytes [03:41] *acer-box______ has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) ● Jan 21 [05:00] *acer-box (~acer-box@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #techbytes [05:01] *acerbox has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [05:19] *acer-box__ (~acer-box@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #techbytes [05:19] *acer-box has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [05:32] *libertybox has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [05:36] *libertybox (~schestowi@host81-152-237-130.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes ● Jan 21 [06:06] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) ● Jan 21 [07:13] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techbytes ● Jan 21 [08:33] Techrights-sec 303 10.10 214.5 7.2*/modules/aggregator/aggregator.css [08:33] Techrights-sec 406 13.53 366.7 12.2 /modules/book/book.css [08:33] Techrights-sec l [08:33] schestowitz__ Yes, I have noticed. Those page are legit, the reqs are not [08:48] schestowitz__ > Saw a documentary on JA recently. It subtly misrepresented him and [08:48] schestowitz__ > Wikileaks positions throughout the long program and then wound up with a [08:48] schestowitz__ > prolonged attack. Once Bradley got involved with WL, several agencies [08:48] schestowitz__ > were able to exploit them drum up anger against JA. Which reminded me [08:48] schestowitz__ > of that wide spread tactic. ● Jan 21 [09:23] Techrights-sec BTW Raspberry Pi Pico (a microcontroller not microcomputer) was [09:23] Techrights-sec released quietly yesterday. [09:23] Techrights-sec (or today) [09:24] schestowitz__ I mentioned it an hour ago, from the feeds, and realised I had never heard of it before [09:25] schestowitz__ BTW, re BT, they should phone today re caps (they admit that exists) and meanwhile if I upload I can temporarily disable IPFS, other nodes will then serve instead. It's really painfully slow when I work.. if it's turned on, so will chase BT. Last lockdown we did not have IPFS. [09:27] Techrights-sec Yes, toggling IPFS seems like a work-around. [09:27] Techrights-sec Are class-action suits an option in the UK? [09:27] Techrights-sec Many customers are all affected by their scam and would [09:27] Techrights-sec have more clout if working in unison. [09:27] schestowitz__ I think it would be wise to first check what they say. I need to memorise the wording of questions I ask and craft them carefully. [09:30] schestowitz__ hmmm... suepo leaked [09:30] schestowitz__ " [09:30] schestowitz__ yes.petition@suepo.org [09:30] schestowitz__ [09:30] schestowitz__ Should you abstain, or be against the petition, please reply to: [09:30] schestowitz__ abstain.petition@suepo.org [09:30] schestowitz__ or [09:30] schestowitz__ no.petition@suepo.org [09:30] schestowitz__ Kind regards, [09:30] schestowitz__ Your Central Staff Representation - CSC [09:30] schestowitz__ PS: [09:30] schestowitz__ 1. In a recent poll, the majority of staff in a General Assembly in Munich asked the Staff representation to prepare a petition against the implementation of the new SAP. [09:30] schestowitz__ 2. The Central Staff Representation is using @suepo.org addresses for the reply because we do not have direct access to internal separate EPO addresses for that, and it would have been too long and complicated to get them. [09:30] schestowitz__ 3. Your names will not be used for any other reason than to keep track of the number of people supporting/abstaining/against the petition. [09:30] schestowitz__ 4. For the case that outlook does not generate the respective email automatically, when you have clicked above on the email address xxxx@suepo.org of your choice, then please open manually a new email in outlook and copy-paste the respective email address of your choice into it. [09:30] schestowitz__ " [09:34] schestowitz__ Re: Reminder: Petition against the new Salary Adjustment Procedure - Limit date extension [09:36] schestowitz__ "For more details about how the new SAP is going to drastically and irrevocably erode our salaries, please see here." ● Jan 21 [10:26] *Disconnected (Connection reset by peer). [10:26] *Now talking on #techbytes [10:26] *Topic for #techbytes is: Welcome to the official channel of the TechBytes Audiocast [10:26] *Topic for #techbytes set by ThistleWeb!~gordon@unaffiliated/thistleweb at Wed Jan 5 20:55:35 2011 [10:43] *Now talking on #techbytes [10:43] *Topic for #techbytes is: Welcome to the official channel of the TechBytes Audiocast [10:43] *Topic for #techbytes set by ThistleWeb!~gordon@unaffiliated/thistleweb at Wed Jan 5 20:55:35 2011 ● Jan 21 [11:36] *Condor has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) ● Jan 21 [14:32] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [14:33] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techbytes ● Jan 21 [17:05] *rianne__ has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [17:06] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [17:06] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-168-60.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes [17:07] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-168-60.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes [17:31] Techrights-sec What can be done to get the trade press to take up the topic of [17:31] Techrights-sec software patents? [17:31] Techrights-sec Yes, it's a bit of a rhetorical question. [17:31] Techrights-sec I've tried raising the topic in forums, where relevant, and get no response [17:31] Techrights-sec I'm just re-realizing that there a few non-shills or non-sellouts left. ● Jan 21 [18:06] *rianne__ has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [18:07] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [18:32] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-168-60.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes [18:32] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-168-60.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes [18:56] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [18:56] *rianne__ has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) ● Jan 21 [19:56] *GNUmoon has quit (Quit: Leaving) [19:56] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techbytes ● Jan 21 [20:21] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-168-60.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes [20:22] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-168-60.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes [20:39] *GNUmoon has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [20:53] schestowitz__ http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/01/the-inexorable-rise-of-epo-oral.html?showComment=1611238266055#c5623432207495304481 [20:53] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The inexorable rise of EPO oral proceedings by video conference - The IPKat [20:53] schestowitz__ "(Anon of 10:47). Yeah, fair enough. I was specifically talking about the "ED"; I should have made that more explicit. But I see no disadvantage to the applicant getting a choice even for ED OP." [20:54] schestowitz__ http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/01/the-inexorable-rise-of-epo-oral.html?showComment=1611236149725#c4229101187327827959 [20:54] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The inexorable rise of EPO oral proceedings by video conference - The IPKat [20:54] schestowitz__ " [20:54] schestowitz__ Anon of 10:47. [20:54] schestowitz__ Kind of you to assume I have some familiarity with the UK approach. Alas, I wouldn't touch a UK appeal with a barge pole. [20:54] schestowitz__ Anyway, as I said before, I certainly understand why lots of people (both UK/DE) prefer Opp/Appeal in person. But I still think that VC for ED OP has many advantages due to the ease of attendance and the more collaborative approach wherein a chat with the inventor or a brand new amendment can help. [20:54] schestowitz__ In terms of opp/appeal, we obviously have a different impression. I said that there is "plenty of time to ask for tech input" during written proceedings. While there are few exchanges, the proceedings last well over a year before OP. I view this to be adequate time to seek technical input on likely issues. [20:54] schestowitz__ As to whether the appeal is law-based or not. If you are able to convince the Board that the appeal is not merely a review of the correctness of the first instance decision, and if you are able to convince them to introduce new prior art/amendments at that late stage that could necessitate further technical input from the inventors, then hats off to you. [20:54] schestowitz__ Similarly we differ on appeal. If you are able to introduce new prior art and new technical arguments in appeal, then fair play to you. 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