●● IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, January 23, 2024 ●● ● Jan 23 [01:02] *jacobk has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Jan 23 [02:20] *u-amarsh04 has quit (connection closed) ● Jan 23 [03:02] *SaphirJD has quit (connection closed) [03:33] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:34] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Jan 23 [07:54] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [07:54] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Jan 23 [08:44] *SaphirJD (~SaphirJD@3d4grvkztv9j4.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Jan 23 [11:53] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techbytes ● Jan 23 [12:21] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techbytes [12:59] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@dc77dxzcmjmaq.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Jan 23 [13:04] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techbytes [13:07] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Jan 23 [14:00] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techbytes [14:03] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:03] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #techbytes [14:30] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techbytes [14:53] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@u8ftxtfux23wk.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Jan 23 [15:12] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techbytes [15:16] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Jan 23 [18:36] *SaphirJD has quit (connection closed) [18:36] *SaphirJD (~SaphirJD@3d4grvkztv9j4.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Jan 23 [19:28] *psydroid2 has quit (Quit: KVIrc 5.0.0 Aria http://www.kvirc.net/) ● Jan 23 [22:10] schestowitz[TR] http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2024/01/cjeu-damage-claim-for-unlawful.html?showComment=1705948152053#c1572670065851161898 [22:10] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.com | CJEU: Damage claim for unlawful provisional measures may be based on strict liability - The IPKat [22:10] schestowitz[TR] "While IPKat M. Pensel seems more akin with TM, the present decision of the CJEU was about a SPC, which can be considered as a derivative of a patent.

What applies to a rescinded PI on a SPC should apply mutatis mutandis to a rescinded PI on a patent.

For instance, before granting a PI, the UPC would be well inspired to look whether there is an opposition pending at the EPO and what is the final result, [22:10] schestowitz[TR] i.e. not the ODs decision, but that of a BA. From published decisions of the boards, it appears that a large proportion of decisions of ODs are set aside by boards.

If the opposition has just started, it appears important that the UPC evaluates itself the validity of the patent monopoly on the basis of the prior art filed by the opponent and the position thereon of the patentee. This evaluation will not be binding [22:10] schestowitz[TR] on the EPO, but diverging decisions on validity of the patent monopoly between the UPC and the EPO should be avoided.

The UPC has been geared for quick decisions, but this increases the risk of diverging decisions on validity as the last word on it is, in case of an opposition, at the EPO and not at the UPC." ● Jan 23 [23:24] *schestowitz-TR2 has quit (Quit: Konversation term) [23:24] *acer-box has quit (Quit: Konversation term) [23:24] *acer-box has quit (Quit: Konversation term) [23:24] *schestowitz-TR2 (~acer-box@24axkg87jqny6.irc) has joined #techbytes [23:24] *acer-box (~acer-box@freenode/user/schestowitz) has joined #techbytes [23:24] *acer-box (~acer-box@freenode/user/schestowitz) has joined #techbytes [23:30] *schestowitz-TR2 has quit (Quit: Konversation term) [23:30] *acer-box has quit (Quit: Konversation term) [23:30] *acer-box has quit (Quit: Konversation term) [23:30] *schestowitz-TR2 (~acer-box@24axkg87jqny6.irc) has joined #techbytes [23:30] *acer-box (~acer-box@freenode/user/schestowitz) has joined #techbytes [23:30] *acer-box (~acer-box@freenode/user/schestowitz) has joined #techbytes