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*tedbox is now known as royMar 23 04:51
*roy is now known as roy_on_tedMar 23 04:51
schestowitz__> No idea.  He must be up to something nefarious.Mar 23 05:30
schestowitz__>Mar 23 05:30
schestowitz__> However, as far as the UPC goes, the proponents will fuss and fume for aMar 23 05:30
schestowitz__> while but probably quiet down after trying to sow doubt.  Then afterMar 23 05:30
schestowitz__> around 18 months from now, beyond the average memory span of the averageMar 23 05:30
schestowitz__> adult, they will pop and try to resume where they left off takingMar 23 05:30
schestowitz__> advantage of the world having forgotten the reasons against softwareMar 23 05:30
schestowitz__> patents and the counter arguments and counter strategies to their shilling.Mar 23 05:30
schestowitz__I did part I yesterday. I worked VERY fast through links this morning.Mar 23 05:30
schestowitz__I want part II out ASAP, then do gardening etc. We can't go to gym etc. anymore.Mar 23 05:30
schestowitz__I will cope; the level to which we need to adapt is small compared to most people as we work from home and buy prudently, frugally even.Mar 23 05:30
schestowitz__Later this year we'll see how stable our employer is. Many businesses on the rocks at the moment, including our clients'!!Mar 23 05:30
schestowitz__>>> Any updates? I still get messages every day, it's only the volume thatMar 23 06:02
schestowitz__>>> decreased and we ought to get to the bottom of this.Mar 23 06:02
schestowitz__>> Hello Roy,Mar 23 06:02
schestowitz__>>Mar 23 06:02
schestowitz__>> We have temporarily blocked all email delivery from lists.[fsf,gnu,nongnu,libreplanet].org to schestowitz.comMar 23 06:02
schestowitz__>>Mar 23 06:02
schestowitz__>> I found that you are subscribed to fsuk-manchester@nongnu.org, you would not be receiving emails from this list until we can revert the change. You would also not be able to subscribe or receive messages from any of our lists. If this solution is not good for you we can look into some other way to mitigate the problem.Mar 23 06:03
schestowitz__>>Mar 23 06:03
schestowitz__>> Of course, the change is temporary and we are working on upgrades to our email system to improve spam contention.Mar 23 06:03
schestowitz__>>Mar 23 06:03
schestowitz__>> Apologies for the inconvenience,Mar 23 06:03
schestowitz__>Mar 23 06:03
schestowitz__> Hi,Mar 23 06:03
schestowitz__>Mar 23 06:03
schestowitz__> How many accounts are targeted by this?Mar 23 06:03
schestowitz__>Mar 23 06:03
schestowitz__> I know about two of my accounts. About 10k spam sent to each.Mar 23 06:03
schestowitz__>Mar 23 06:03
schestowitz__> It is very important to know to what degree this is targeted.Mar 23 06:03
schestowitz__>Mar 23 06:03
schestowitz__> Looking forward to your reply,Mar 23 06:03
schestowitz__Can I interpret a no-reply (for 4 days now) as, "yes, as far as we know only Roy was targeted by this"? I am going to write an article about this, so lack of clarification would probably not serve either of us.Mar 23 06:03
schestowitz__Regards,Mar 23 06:03
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/Code_Analysis/status/1242133777880621056Mar 23 17:50
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Code_Analysis: @schestowitz How We Fixed One Bug in CMake: https://t.co/7E8G35EhjvMar 23 17:50
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.viva64.com | How We Fixed One Bug in CMakeMar 23 17:50
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/gasgebouw/status/1242121763946811392Mar 23 17:53
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@gasgebouw: @schestowitz The #RoyalDutchDisease killed many hundreds of millions since 1963 @poldervirus #ecocidecrime… https://t.co/mlGAhkTEguMar 23 17:53
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@gasgebouw: @schestowitz The #RoyalDutchDisease killed many hundreds of millions since 1963 @poldervirus #ecocidecrime… https://t.co/mlGAhkTEguMar 23 17:53
schestowitz__"Mar 23 17:53
schestowitz__The #RoyalDutchDisease killed many hundreds of millions since 1963 @poldervirusMar 23 17:53
schestowitz__#ecocidecrime @exxonshellMar 23 17:53
schestowitz__#stimalus @ecolocaustMar 23 17:53
schestowitz__#slowdrown @petrodebtMar 23 17:53
schestowitz__"Mar 23 17:53
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/django_stiglitz/status/1242110593579933696Mar 23 17:53
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@django_stiglitz: @schestowitz IP trolling is quiet a racket. Believe it or not, there are trademark trolls too. I've come across a… https://t.co/PSYlknlUiqMar 23 17:53
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@django_stiglitz: @schestowitz IP trolling is quiet a racket. Believe it or not, there are trademark trolls too. I've come across a… https://t.co/PSYlknlUiqMar 23 17:53
schestowitz__"IP trolling is quiet a racket.  Believe it or not, there are trademark trolls too.  I've come across a guy who has webpage called "M2 software."   He sues anyone in the country with an "m" or a "2" in their name."Mar 23 17:53
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1242110380622708738Mar 23 17:53
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@zoobab: @EP_IT_Attorney @schestowitz "It is difficult to think of requiring that an Italian entrepreneur should take into a… https://t.co/0Xo9qRcyfjMar 23 17:53
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@zoobab: @EP_IT_Attorney @schestowitz "It is difficult to think of requiring that an Italian entrepreneur should take into a… https://t.co/0Xo9qRcyfjMar 23 17:53
schestowitz__""It is difficult to think of requiring that an Italian entrepreneur should take into account patents written in German that were valid for some reason on the territory of the Italian state." That´s first point of my constitutional complaint in Belgium. Not all belgians are equal."Mar 23 17:54
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/sclv/status/1242108968333434881Mar 23 17:54
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@sclv: @schestowitz there’s a thousand sources that will say rhe same thing about voa.Mar 23 17:54
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/sclv/status/1242108968333434881Mar 23 17:56
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/EP_IT_Attorney/status/1242108292584935433Mar 23 17:57
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@EP_IT_Attorney: @schestowitz @zoobab But you can always find good old stuff from patent attorneys: here in Italian https://t.co/fTH0nmASdXMar 23 17:57
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.biessebrevetti.com | Il nuovo sistema brevettuale europeo danneggerà le aziende italiane - BIESSE Brevetti & MarchiMar 23 17:57
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/StarchyArchie/status/1242080156082208768Mar 23 17:59
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@StarchyArchie: @Info_Activism @AnnCavoukian cc: @PursuanceProj @Schestowitz @SnowdenMar 23 17:59
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jvantill/status/1242020526274555905Mar 23 18:00
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@jvantill: @schestowitz Sad to see the USA and UK both spiraling down fast while still thinking in terms of #neoLib money extr… https://t.co/C3dcbMkUxOMar 23 18:00
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@jvantill: @schestowitz Sad to see the USA and UK both spiraling down fast while still thinking in terms of #neoLib money extr… https://t.co/C3dcbMkUxOMar 23 18:00
schestowitz__"Sad to see the USA and UK both spiraling down fast while still thinking in terms of #neoLib money extraction at the expense of healthcare and population. Tories took away pensions of ret. NHS doctors. Provides no face masks now for doctors. Elite not interested in fatalities."Mar 23 18:00
schestowitz__Re: Raspberry Pi HATMar 23 18:22
schestowitz__> Do you have a Raspberry Pi there?Mar 23 18:22
schestowitz__No, I never saw the reason to buy one and now might be hard to buy things.Mar 23 18:22
schestowitz__Rianne is trying to now sell something... with an actual bank cheque.Mar 23 18:22
schestowitz__> I am thinking of ordering parts to solder LEDs, switches, and a buzzerMar 23 18:22
schestowitz__> to a permanent bread board[1] kit to plug onto one I have here.  I canMar 23 18:22
schestowitz__> assemble the bread board for you and send it.  I can even solder theMar 23 18:23
schestowitz__> LEDs and other components.  Would you like one if I put it together orMar 23 18:23
schestowitz__> just bundle the parts?Mar 23 18:23
schestowitz__I am not sure what  the device would be used for. I've checked the link, but it renders poorly in my browser and I think there''s context I am missing here.Mar 23 18:23
schestowitz__> With it you or Rianne can write short perl, python, or whatever scriptsMar 23 18:23
schestowitz__> for status indicators and warnings.  C works too just as well.  GivenMar 23 18:23
schestowitz__> the programmability the result is quite flexible and very easy to workMar 23 18:23
schestowitz__> with.Mar 23 18:23
schestowitz__Status indicator for the sites?Mar 23 18:23
schestowitz__> https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/adafruit-perma-proto-hat-for-pi-mini-kit?variant=1038451613Mar 23 18:23
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-shop.pimoroni.com | Adafruit Perma-Proto HAT for Pi Mini Kit – Pimoroni StoreMar 23 18:23
schestowitz__https://pleroma.site/notice/9tIm8LATJRpfiWsxEWMar 23 18:51
schestowitz__'@schestowitz very interesting distro. I replaced debian on my home laptop! a real surprise #voidlinux"Mar 23 18:51
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-pleroma.site | PleromaMar 23 18:51
schestowitz__https://pleroma.site/notice/9tI6osbhBHtLVxDkfoMar 23 18:51
schestowitz__"Mar 23 18:51
schestowitz__maybe @covid19 has finally ended #versioninflationMar 23 18:51
schestowitz__maybe we'll see a variety of minor point upgrades, instead.Mar 23 18:51
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-pleroma.site | PleromaMar 23 18:51
schestowitz__"Mar 23 18:51
schestowitz__https://pleroma.site/notice/9tI4IwHBnsvrifGrSKMar 23 18:52
schestowitz__"that's not a threat, that's a promise."Mar 23 18:52
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-pleroma.site | PleromaMar 23 18:52
schestowitz__https://pleroma.site/notice/9tGs6MafGQGqxUep84Mar 23 18:53
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-pleroma.site | PleromaMar 23 18:53
schestowitz__"If they are safe, and work why not, it's called innovation,  sharing on line just upsets the corporates."Mar 23 18:53
schestowitz__https://pleroma.site/notice/9tGrzhdYcABgCrpnncMar 23 18:53
schestowitz__"Great stuff,"Mar 23 18:53
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-pleroma.site | PleromaMar 23 18:53
schestowitz__https://pleroma.site/notice/9tGqP68KTVyDVnD2vYMar 23 18:54
schestowitz__" They are rich enough to buy their own."Mar 23 18:54
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-pleroma.site | PleromaMar 23 18:54
schestowitz__https://pleroma.site/notice/9tGmUPWVPZe3HPnO40Mar 23 18:54
schestowitz__"Can we count MS windows as a Pandemic ?"Mar 23 18:54
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-pleroma.site | PleromaMar 23 18:54
schestowitz__https://pleroma.site/notice/9tGiZtHNo5Q7CL4zyKMar 23 18:54
schestowitz__"Looks good, perhaps when this is over we should really look in to making sure we have lots more of these available ready for when they are needed."Mar 23 18:54
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-pleroma.site | PleromaMar 23 18:54
schestowitz__https://pleroma.site/notice/9tGK3IJ5Kw2QMZneCGMar 23 18:56
schestowitz__ i think it's worse than that.  I think it's not even an authoritarian thing, but a 'what happens when you connect people in large numbers and run the default social software' thing.  #SPU s won't even solve it."Mar 23 18:56
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-pleroma.site | PleromaMar 23 18:56
schestowitz__https://pleroma.site/notice/9tG5gzq9upDLMRk8hsMar 23 18:56
schestowitz__"Still masks are nowhere to be found here in greece and even medical personnel in major public hospitals are lacking this basic protection."Mar 23 18:56
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-pleroma.site | PleromaMar 23 18:56
schestowitz__https://pleroma.site/notice/9tFEmBeg7XMtshxmQSMar 23 18:57
schestowitz__"Mar 23 18:58
schestowitz__@schestowitzMar 23 18:58
schestowitz__none of those are recent tho...Mar 23 18:58
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-pleroma.site | PleromaMar 23 18:58
schestowitz__'Mar 23 18:58
schestowitz__https://pleroma.site/notice/9tFETD70TnfwtjAHfkMar 23 18:58
schestowitz__"@schestowitz #america"Mar 23 18:58
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-pleroma.site | PleromaMar 23 18:58
schestowitz__https://pleroma.site/notice/9tFDhAhs7U5vXOVA2qMar 23 18:59
schestowitz__"I suppose we have to delete NPM now too…  Github (microsoft) are acquiring them."Mar 23 18:59
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-pleroma.site | PleromaMar 23 18:59
schestowitz__https://pleroma.site/notice/9tF5VkAReUNIPQuFCSMar 23 18:59
schestowitz__" it takes a while for the effects of social distancing to show up in the curve.  usually second or third generation of infections.  and ultimately the lack of widespread testing has been the problem so far."Mar 23 18:59
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-pleroma.site | PleromaMar 23 18:59
schestowitz__https://pleroma.site/notice/9tEplVrD1hUvOSPF6OMar 23 19:00
schestowitz__" Are those NEW infections that can be verified, or backlogged tests that only just got processed?  Quit promoting panic..."Mar 23 19:00
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-pleroma.site | PleromaMar 23 19:00
schestowitz__https://pleroma.site/notice/9tEl2mWRos4YEQ6tWqMar 23 19:00
schestowitz__"except these are not communist, just oligarchies/dictatorships..."Mar 23 19:00
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-pleroma.site | PleromaMar 23 19:00
schestowitz__https://pleroma.site/notice/9tEYRqlDtqlNDCe1SKMar 23 19:01
schestowitz__""the handler of the pages came down with covid19, the documents were infected and had to be burned. Clerical slipups resulted in no copies being made." Similar has happened in Caribbean island nations. I bet it could happen there too.'Mar 23 19:01
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-pleroma.site | PleromaMar 23 19:01
schestowitz__https://pleroma.site/notice/9tEGT9QkAopoEIXJ1UMar 23 19:02
schestowitz__"t's such a pain to find pure #freesw these days. I just started using npm for a project of mine. I don't know what to do now or where to find a replacement."Mar 23 19:02
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-pleroma.site | PleromaMar 23 19:02
schestowitz__https://pleroma.site/notice/9tEGDa3JQRhoAB9T1cMar 23 19:02
schestowitz__"Mar 23 19:02
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-pleroma.site | PleromaMar 23 19:02
schestowitz__"...but not enough to share code for our own app"Mar 23 19:02
schestowitz__Haha. Expected. 💔Mar 23 19:02
schestowitz__'Mar 23 19:02
schestowitz__https://pleroma.site/notice/9tE1mf892UM4jdgMoCMar 23 19:04
schestowitz__"Mar 23 19:04
schestowitz__ in Italy, the authorities said they wanted to track travel via cell phones to catch people who didn't respect the restrictions on moving.Mar 23 19:04
schestowitz__ Mar 23 19:04
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-pleroma.site | PleromaMar 23 19:04
schestowitz__ There are always new opportunities for techno capitalists in times of shock...Mar 23 19:04
schestowitz__"Mar 23 19:04
schestowitz__https://pleroma.site/notice/9tDzLBZ0exHZJC1CkKMar 23 19:05
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-pleroma.site | PleromaMar 23 19:05
schestowitz__"We have to admit this is a positive use of that tech'Mar 23 19:05
schestowitz__https://pleroma.site/notice/9tDxTMCimZd4iZMVX6Mar 23 19:05
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes- ( status 404 @ https://pleroma.site/notice/9tDxTMCimZd4iZMVX6 )Mar 23 19:05
schestowitz__"Mar 23 19:05
schestowitz__ condemning the current world economy is a positive thing.Mar 23 19:05
schestowitz__we must work on varied solutions, instead of simply trying to hold up a broken messMar 23 19:05
schestowitz__"Mar 23 19:05
schestowitz__https://pleroma.site/notice/9tDwsBdd6UYxEXDwxcMar 23 19:06
schestowitz__I have been asking that for awhile. Static site generators, gopher, basic http, RSS, and XMPP.  Every year tech gets dumber, slower, more arcane, and less useful.""Mar 23 19:06
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-pleroma.site | PleromaMar 23 19:06
schestowitz__https://pleroma.site/notice/9tDwlGkXhWBj3k9ufwMar 23 19:06
schestowitz__"It’s just one way traffic, that’s why.'Mar 23 19:06
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-pleroma.site | PleromaMar 23 19:06
schestowitz__https://pleroma.site/notice/9tDvQrlcmANJpcN8YSMar 23 19:07
schestowitz__"@schestowitz <- this is why i'm not too worried about martial law in the US being permanent.  trump is clearly showing incompetence here."Mar 23 19:07
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-pleroma.site | PleromaMar 23 19:07
schestowitz__https://pleroma.site/notice/9tDmCxbhMpucIn1XHMMar 23 19:08
schestowitz__" please be mindful that idiotic posts like these are why the bay area is now under lockdown even though the science doesn't justify it"Mar 23 19:08
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-pleroma.site | PleromaMar 23 19:08
schestowitz__I fail to see the connectionMar 23 19:09
schestowitz__https://pleroma.site/notice/9tDlqGDc0Jd9MdvvtYMar 23 19:09
schestowitz__"it's means tested because Nancy Pelosi says so"Mar 23 19:09
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-pleroma.site | PleromaMar 23 19:09
schestowitz__https://pleroma.site/notice/9tDllxdb94loZv2PpYMar 23 19:10
schestowitz__"Mar 23 19:10
schestowitz__Tbh this happens in any type of social constructs.Mar 23 19:10
schestowitz__Not to excuse the behavior, it is uncontrolled human nature. Sad but true !Mar 23 19:10
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-pleroma.site | PleromaMar 23 19:10
schestowitz__"Mar 23 19:10
schestowitz__Tbh this happens in any type of social constructs.Mar 23 19:10
schestowitz__Not to excuse the behavior, it is uncontrolled human nature. Sad but true !"Mar 23 19:10
schestowitz__https://pleroma.site/notice/9tDj0spuyl8CAWDyueMar 23 19:10
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-pleroma.site | PleromaMar 23 19:10
schestowitz__"Well, better late then never"Mar 23 19:10
schestowitz__https://pleroma.site/notice/9tDiijntp63qwTcz4qMar 23 19:10
schestowitz__"Looks like they r testing now, the initial testing  kits were giving 36% false results as they were manufactured in China"Mar 23 19:10
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-pleroma.site | PleromaMar 23 19:11
schestowitz__https://pleroma.site/notice/9tDiABAU5jnHfwiGG0Mar 23 19:11
schestowitz__"@schestowitz https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/coronavirus-patients-apocalypse-ward-gasp-21723273"Mar 23 19:11
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-pleroma.site | PleromaMar 23 19:11
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.mirror.co.uk | Coronavirus patients on 'apocalypse' ward gasp in bubble helmets as army move bodies - World News - Mirror OnlineMar 23 19:11
schestowitz__https://pleroma.site/notice/9tDNaI03DRdpM6RRy4Mar 23 19:13
schestowitz__"@ayla @nolan @schestowitz the data is stored in hubs and pods. Zot is how it is interchanged. That is how I understand it anyway."Mar 23 19:13
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-pleroma.site | PleromaMar 23 19:13
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