●● IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, May 23, 2024 ●● ● May 23 [00:35] *parsifal has quit (Quit: Leaving) [00:36] *parsifal (~parsifal@uuar9r28yasyu.irc) has joined #techbytes ● May 23 [02:40] schestowitz[TR2] > LOL, I literally make those same mistakes forever. [02:40] schestowitz[TR2] > [02:40] schestowitz[TR2] > Yes, it does pain me - but really I have nothing but awesome happy [02:40] schestowitz[TR2] > memories of my days in Finland. The world changes, At least it's not [02:40] schestowitz[TR2] > the Russies, yet. :) [02:40] schestowitz[TR2] Yes, we had a lengthy discussion last night. [02:40] schestowitz[TR2] It was about the mental health crisis, world conflicts, and how that leads people to harass me and my family. [02:40] schestowitz[TR2] I have long said, being fine (for oneself) is fine, but if your neighbour is having a miserable life, then you too will suffer. [02:40] schestowitz[TR2] Collective happiness in Finland may be measures as "highest", but as a Finn keepss reminding me, those measures are relative and also not objective. [02:40] schestowitz[TR2] Some of the world's happiest people are in poor nations (in spite of the poverty), but their yardstick of contentment is not similar to ours. [02:40] schestowitz[TR2] Finland has a very positive (outwards) image, but based on what Sompi tells me, there's a dark side and it grew darker over the years. [02:40] schestowitz[TR2] For me, writing about the world's issues - expressing myself - is one outlet. If we cannot talk about it, that won't be fixed. If we cannot fix it, at least we can make the issue known. This is what makes literary works such as Digital Vegan invaluable. Society progresses when enough people come to recognise the underlying issues in society. ● May 23 [05:03] *silverien has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) ● May 23 [07:34] *parsifal has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● May 23 [08:04] schestowitz[TR2] "A genuine selfmade billionaire Crooked Timber" [08:04] schestowitz[TR2] x https://crookedtimber.org/2024/05/22/a-genuine-selfmade-billionaire/ [08:04] schestowitz[TR2] # disinfo regarding bill's parent's money [08:04] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-crookedtimber.org | A genuine selfmade billionaire Crooked Timber [08:05] schestowitz[TR2] x https://ubuntu.com//blog/ubuntu-supports-azure-cobalt-100-vms [08:05] schestowitz[TR2] # did not click [08:05] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-canonical.com | NO TITLE ● May 23 [09:25] schestowitz[TR2]
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    In the Mozilla all-hands meeting in Hawaii in December 2016, I was approached by the Mozilla logo design team who asked me if I (we?) would have any issues with them moving forward with the logo version using the colon slash slash.

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    • [12:09] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-A history of a logo with a colon and two slashes | daniel.haxx.se [12:56] schestowitz[TR2] https://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2024/05/14/the-epo-lost-in-regard-to-translations/ [12:56] schestowitz[TR2] " [12:56] schestowitz[TR2] The American saying If it aint broke, dont fix it is a bit hard to translate into French or German, but not for the interpreters employed by the EPO. Whenever I used interpretation at OP, their work was nothing short of remarkable, as long as someone bothered to actually listen to the interpretation (very occasionally, this isnt the case, e.g. because the one person who needed interpretation hasnt shown up). And a [12:56] schestowitz[TR2] s long as some parties will speak in French or German, the need for interpretation will not go away. [12:56] schestowitz[TR2] Also, under item 2.3 Risk: Loss of competitiveness of EPO as an employer, one can read: Health risks related to poor sound in ViCo already make the EPO less attractive as an employer when other international institutions have largely returned to in-person simultaneous interpretation for meetings. This is due to increased risk of auditory incidents and vastly increased cognitive load when working in RSI. I can attest tha [12:56] schestowitz[TR2] t simultaneous interpretation in ViCo seems to be incredibly tough on the interpreters. In one OP I attended in ViCo, the interpreters had to interrupt constantly to get the patentees attorneys to speak closer to their microphone. [12:56] schestowitz[TR2] Barry Moore [12:56] schestowitz[TR2] May 14, 2024 at 6:29 pm [12:56] schestowitz[TR2] Having regularly benefited from the excellent translation provided by the EPO translation team, I cannot but echo the sentiment expressed. The EPO prides itself on providing a quality of services that transcends language and nationality- if it is not broken, do not try and fix it ! [12:56] schestowitz[TR2] Caballero [12:56] schestowitz[TR2] May 15, 2024 at 9:00 am [12:56] schestowitz[TR2] So expensive translations were a fairytale after all. [12:56] schestowitz[TR2] Max Drei [12:56] schestowitz[TR2] May 15, 2024 at 1:28 pm [12:56] schestowitz[TR2] Once again, Oscar Wilde was on to it, ages ago. As he said, A cynic is somebody who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing. Its not just the cynics amongst us though, is it. Highly-trained modern business managers are the worlds experts in knowing the price of everything, and amongst the worlds worst at putting an accurate value on that which they so painstakingly price. [12:56] schestowitz[TR2] I suppose they would retort that its not my job to set a value. For that, they rely on the televant experts and specialists. Is that then why management now solicits the opinion of the B&F Cttee? [12:56] schestowitz[TR2] Which prompts me to wonder whether management already knows what answer to expect from the Committee. Perhaps it has already offered the Cttee a draft answer and now just wants it signed? One suspects that a Call for comments is a device used by management to bring to light any trouble-makers on board ship. Who serves on the B&F Cttee, I wonder. [12:56] schestowitz[TR2] My impression is that, sigh, EPO management gets what it wants, every time, regardless of the strength of any counter-arguments. [12:56] schestowitz[TR2] Can readers tell me that I am way too much of a cynic? I do hope so. But I doubt it. [12:56] schestowitz[TR2] Not cynical whatsoever [12:56] schestowitz[TR2] May 17, 2024 at 2:49 pm [12:56] schestowitz[TR2] Dear Max Drew, [12:56] schestowitz[TR2] There is nothing cynical in stating the fact that the tail is wagging the dog, be it at the B&F Committee or at the AC. [12:56] schestowitz[TR2] The AC and its committees have completely given their control function of EPOs management. [12:56] schestowitz[TR2] The AC rubber stamps everything coming from the 10th floor thanks to the modulation of the cooperation budget! [12:56] schestowitz[TR2] This fact is a disgrace on its own! [12:56] schestowitz[TR2] A hidden agenda? [12:56] schestowitz[TR2] May 15, 2024 at 5:10 pm [12:56] schestowitz[TR2] I can only follow previous commenters: If it aint broke, dont fix it. Why on Earth does a system have to be changed and made much more complicated. Even if the EPO might expect some financial gains, is it really worth it? [12:56] schestowitz[TR2] One could however suspect more behind the move, a kind of hidden agenda. [12:56] schestowitz[TR2] Up to now, a change of language has been granted at the UPC, but to my knowledge, there has not yet been any request for simultaneous interpretation during a hearing at the UPC. [12:56] schestowitz[TR2] Simultaneous interpretation can be requested and the judge-rapporteur will decide on the request or even order simultaneous interpretation for the oral hearing, see RoP 109. [12:56] schestowitz[TR2] Costs for simultaneous interpretation are costs of the proceedings, and hence the losing party will have to bear these costs, up to the ceilings in place, cf. RoP 155-157. Only costs for simultaneous interpretation for the benefit of the panel will be borne by the UPC. [12:56] schestowitz[TR2] The status of interpreters before the UPC is not clear. It is not sure at all that interpreters will have the same status at the UPC than at the EPO or at the EU level. [12:56] schestowitz[TR2] Especially taxation problems might occur as only the earnings of the judges are totally free of national taxes and are not even taken into account for determining the whole taxable revenues in their country of tax residence. See the PPI, Art 9(3). [12:56] schestowitz[TR2] So why not start earlier and get read of the special status of interpreters at the EPO right now? Interpreters will have a difficult time anyway, so they better get used to it. [12:56] schestowitz[TR2] Some representatives before the EPO are also representatives before the UPC. It will be interesting to pinpoint those dual representatives which do not, in view of the possible costs for their client at the UPC, request interpretation at the UPC, but at the EPO. [12:56] schestowitz[TR2] In a next move, R 4(1) could as well be abolished, or the conditions for obtaining simultaneous interpretation made more difficult and complicated. [12:56] schestowitz[TR2] Those representatives having pursued OP after interpreters have left, could be treated the same as the dual representatives defined above here. [12:56] schestowitz[TR2] Knowing how the upper management at the EPO is keen on financial gains, the preceding thoughts are not completely out of place. [12:56] schestowitz[TR2] LightBlue [12:56] schestowitz[TR2] May 17, 2024 at 9:55 am [12:56] schestowitz[TR2] Maybe the first instance OPs should be more strict on responding to requests for translators along the model of the BoAs. Hearing a German attorney speak in English in German language proceedings in order to benefit from an English translation for their client grates somewhat. [12:56] schestowitz[TR2] Not as simple as you claim [12:56] schestowitz[TR2] May 18, 2024 at 1:36 am [12:56] schestowitz[TR2] When a party requires simultaneous interpretation one month before the OP before an OD, it can be difficult to realise whether it is just for its clients convenience. This only becomes visible at the OP. [12:56] schestowitz[TR2] A board can pick up this problem much earlier. [12:56] schestowitz[TR2] As accompanying persons have no procedural right to address the deciding body, requesting simultaneous interpretation for an accompanying person will not be granted! [12:56] schestowitz[TR2] curious attorney [12:56] schestowitz[TR2] May 15, 2024 at 8:54 pm [12:56] schestowitz[TR2] 160 translators? Seems like a waste of public money to me anyway, lets wait and see how the new system works and then judge! It seems a bit biased to me to think too far ahead [12:56] schestowitz[TR2] upsidedown [12:56] schestowitz[TR2] May 16, 2024 at 11:57 pm [12:56] schestowitz[TR2] Clever point : lets make it like the UK Railway system : first disband it whilst pretending private does it better; then ruin it since private can often be more incompetent than public, to finally renationalise it. Makes sense ! [12:56] schestowitz[TR2] curious attorney [12:56] schestowitz[TR2] May 17, 2024 at 9:14 pm [12:56] schestowitz[TR2] The number of oppositions at the EPO is decreasing, as are the number of appeals, so some flexibility in translation resources doesnt seem out of the blue, and in general, if you dont want to make a mistake, the easiest thing to do is to do nothing [12:56] schestowitz[TR2] The tail is wagging the dog [12:56] schestowitz[TR2] May 17, 2024 at 2:58 pm [12:56] schestowitz[TR2] You might be one of those lucky people who can argue in our mother tongue and have a good command of the other two official languages of the EPO. This is not the case of many people! [12:56] schestowitz[TR2] There is no bias when looking ahead of what is likely to happen. [12:56] schestowitz[TR2] This move is like any pilot started at the EPO. It is an acquired fact that EPOs higher management will always be right in what it decides as the tail is wagging the dog for many years now! [12:56] schestowitz[TR2] Professional interpreter [12:56] schestowitz[TR2] May 18, 2024 at 3:44 pm [12:56] schestowitz[TR2] Its not public money, and the number of people on the list is irrelevant to the expenditure, since they are only paid for the days they actually work. [12:56] schestowitz[TR2] " [12:56] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | The EPO Lost in Regard to Translations? - Kluwer Patent Blog ● May 23 [13:27] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@j9gt2haw74jrk.irc) has joined #techbytes ● May 23 [14:24] *Nahawand_ (~Nahawand@freenode-2ue.6ih.pu7h8v.IP) has joined #techbytes ● May 23 [15:11] *fury999i| has quit (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2+deb3.1 - https://znc.in) [15:12] *fury999i- (~fury999io@j2r64gtkf9rf4.irc) has joined #techbytes [15:15] *parsifal (~parsifal@uuar9r28yasyu.irc) has joined #techbytes [15:17] *fury999i- has quit (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2+deb3.1 - https://znc.in) [15:21] *fury999i- (~fury999io@j2r64gtkf9rf4.irc) has joined #techbytes ● May 23 [16:16] schestowitz[TR2] https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1sDxIqT9#OP [16:16] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes- ( status 403 @ https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1sDxIqT9#OP ) [16:16] schestowitz[TR2] "" [16:16] schestowitz[TR2] IBM deploys power much more like the mainframe This is most likely a request from the large ISVs. IBM continues to manage Enterprise Power into the Niche corner. [16:16] schestowitz[TR2] https://www.theregister.com/2024/05/22/ibm_power_virtual_server_private_cloud/ [16:16] schestowitz[TR2] IBM is treating scale out power like folks treat TVs. Just replace them when they break as they become commodity items. The only way IBM will be able to monetize scale out is to license the IP (sunk costs). Due to the low volumes Power scale out is now generating, a commodity manufacturer will most likely fill the assembly,marketing/sales, and servicing roles. IBM will move into the DuPont mode Design, and license it. Theres [16:16] schestowitz[TR2] profit to be made, but IBMs high current overhead su-ks all of the life out of power. [16:16] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.theregister.com | IBM packages its Power cloud into 'pods' that run on-prem The Register ● May 23 [17:37] *x-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 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