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[13:56]	schestowitz[TR2]	https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1kvn5xdat
[13:56]		-TechBytesBot/#techbytes- ( status 403 @ https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1kvn5xdat )
[13:56]	schestowitz[TR2]	"
[13:56]	schestowitz[TR2]	Job market is tight. Better have a paycheck coming in then nothing at all
[13:56]	schestowitz[TR2]	3 hours ago by Anonymous
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[13:56]	schestowitz[TR2]	 +1 
[13:56]	schestowitz[TR2]	I assume its job hugging.
[13:56]	schestowitz[TR2]	9 hours ago by Anonymous
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[13:56]	schestowitz[TR2]	@ev
[13:56]	schestowitz[TR2]	I appreciate the honesty. We've gone from "ergonomic accommodations" to "I steal office supplies on company time while writing my novel." At least nobody has to guess what's happening anymore. If IBM's biggest problem was people taking Sharpies, it would be the healthiest company on Earth. The bigger issue is employees bragging about not doing the job they're being paid to do and then wondering why management isn't impressed.
[13:56]	schestowitz[TR2]	21 hours ago by Anonymous
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[13:56]	schestowitz[TR2]	 +3 
[13:56]	schestowitz[TR2]	@et h3y don't lose your sh-t man, it's only ibm wasteland
[13:56]	schestowitz[TR2]	21 hours ago by Anonymous
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[13:56]	schestowitz[TR2]	 +5 
[13:56]	schestowitz[TR2]	@et Excuse me but stealing office supplies and writing my novel ARE work. My big problem is that I keep getting distracted by this site. Imagine how much more I could steal and write if I were 100% focused.
[13:56]	schestowitz[TR2]	"
[13:56]	schestowitz[TR2]	https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1kvrnnq21
[13:56]	schestowitz[TR2]	"
[13:56]	schestowitz[TR2]	Expert Labs in the USA
[13:56]	schestowitz[TR2]	Where is the work in Expert Labs in the US? There is no work at all, customers are not signing anything and it looks like everybody is busy (wasting their time) with Bob!
[13:56]	schestowitz[TR2]	Comments?
[13:56]	schestowitz[TR2]	"
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[13:57]	schestowitz[TR2]	""
[13:57]	schestowitz[TR2]	If IBM could get rid of expert labs itself by assigning PIP it would - brick and mortar is not that easy to write off
[13:57]	schestowitz[TR2]	59 minutes ago by Anonymous
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[13:57]	schestowitz[TR2]	 +1 
[13:57]	schestowitz[TR2]	@aj its also not worth it at all
[13:57]	schestowitz[TR2]	11 hours ago by Anonymous
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[13:57]	schestowitz[TR2]	Post ID: @ak+1kvrnnq21
[13:57]	schestowitz[TR2]	 +3 
[13:57]	schestowitz[TR2]	Expert labs is way too expensive
[13:57]	schestowitz[TR2]	11 hours ago by Anonymous
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[13:57]	schestowitz[TR2]	Post ID: @aj+1kvrnnq21
[13:57]	schestowitz[TR2]	 +1 
[13:57]	schestowitz[TR2]	Experts lab is an oxymoron, it is a bunch of useless people with expertise.
[13:57]	schestowitz[TR2]	"
[13:57]	schestowitz[TR2]	https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1kvra27zphttps://www.thelayoff.com/t/1kvra27zp
[13:57]	schestowitz[TR2]	https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1kvra27zp
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[13:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	""
[13:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	"
[13:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	yea I saw that post about No Raises was removed yesterday too on Reddit? Why? It didnt violate any rules
[13:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	44 minutes ago by Anonymous
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[13:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	 +2 
[13:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	All of the Reddit posts on this topic have been quickly removed. Let's see if this thread here lasts the day. IBM desperately doing damage control.
[13:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	1 hour ago by Anonymous
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[13:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	 +2 
[13:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	@cv it's strange that the company is showing investors money when the IBM share price has been stagnant for many years and the dividend only gets increased by 1 cent (0.01 cent) every year. It is pathetic. For a billion dollar company like IBM, one would expect a higher share price and a higher dividend. If it is not growing, why is that ? Fiddles done by executives at the top for siphoning $$ from the company ? They sure ain't mak
[13:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	ing better (award winning) products at IBM.
[13:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	2 hours ago by Anonymous
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[13:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	Post ID: @d0+1kvra27zp
[13:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	 +2 
[13:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	Before getting RA managers were only allowed x amount of 2+ to get a raise, plus the year Ginni said no raises for anyone. It's a game where the CEO's from present back to Sam play to show investors money
[13:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	3 hours ago by Anonymous
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[13:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	Post ID: @cv+1kvra27zp
[13:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	 +2 
[13:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	@ba Watch your PMR on your raise statements. If you're under 100, they're knowingly paying you less than they know you're worth. And even if you get a raise, if your PMR goes down one between one year and the next, it's actually a pay cut and they know it.
[13:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	100 PMR = 100% of a fair wage for your position, skills, experience, and history at IBM. If your PMR is under 100, they're knowingly short changing you and hoping you don't notice or quit. The only exception is if you're a new hire (first year or two) where you're ramping up into your role.
[13:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	8 hours ago by Anonymous
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[13:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	 +3 
[13:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	Mine was so terrible and will act like a pay cut . Its pathetic to manipulate people like this. Time to leave was yesterday. Proof staying too long doesnt pay off. Off to update my cv. I was corporate psychopaths. Who is making money because it sure aint us.
[13:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	11 hours ago by Anonymous
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[13:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	 +7 
[13:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	@ay money isnt most important. The benefits are terrible at ibm . Try to find a place with a better total compensation and take into account time off/work life balance/health insurance/retirement, etc
[13:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	12 hours ago by Anonymous
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[13:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	 +3 
[13:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	@OP whats the real story here?
[13:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	13 hours ago by Anonymous
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[13:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	 +6 
[13:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	Sometimes I wonder if I should get mad because I didnt get a 3-5 percent raise or if I should channel that energy to find a job that pays 15-20 percent more. Or accept the harsh reality that this company wants to squeeze our 9s, 10s, and letters in any possible way they can.
[13:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	13 hours ago by MoreAtTheCore
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[13:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	 +6 
[13:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	@ar remember when someone asked for more bluepoints to give out and he said no? I made sure to give all mine when I quit
[13:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	13 hours ago by Anonymous
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[13:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	 +4 
[13:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	@OP how about giving Bluepoints instead of raises ?
[13:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	Will Alvind discuss this on his next Slack Channel lovefest ?
[13:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	14 hours ago by Anonymous
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[13:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	 +6 
[13:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	wtf?! Didnt he get 50mil?!
[13:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	15 hours ago by Anonymous
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[13:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	 +6 
[13:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	Alvind and the Pipmunks got their raises and big payouts though.
[13:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	15 hours ago by Anonymous
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[13:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	 +8 
[13:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	Nobody is getting raises this year, aside maybe the higher ups.... because IBM is gifting employees AI, think Bob and that cr-p!
[13:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	Enjoy! You should feel valued that IBM invest in tools for you! lol!
[13:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	There is always next year!
[13:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	15 hours ago by Anonymous
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[13:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	 +6 
[13:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	I didn't receive a work email with a link to a W3 article today. What is the title of the article you are speaking of?
[13:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	But yes, I've heard that almost no one got raises, at least in consulting, and those that did only got token ones.
[13:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	17 hours ago by Anonymous
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[13:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	 +5 
[13:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	It means, IBM canceled raises for all regular employees, except Alvind bonus. IBM cant afford both.
[13:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	"
[13:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1kvrfs2nc\
[13:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	"you said it !
[13:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	But wait, there's more - IBM will be left in the dust for the Quantum chip technology race next. When you have a company run by losers like Arvind and his Pipmunks, you cannot help but wonder for how long they will be in business. Nothing but a bunch of overpaid executives who fail to deliver on their promises every single time.
[13:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	42 minutes ago by Anonymous
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[13:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	 +1 
[13:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	Classic bullsh-t disguised as an opinion on AI
[13:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	1 hour ago by Anonymous
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[13:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	This is just one long rambling excuse about why IBM has completely been left in the dust in the AI market and doesn't even remotely have any sort of compelling offering here.
[13:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	Arvind is completely irrelevant amongst tech leaders. Ever notice that he is NEVER pictured with the other Tech CEOs in the media? Now it's possible that it's because those pictures tend to be cropped at about waist height so he simply isn't visible, but I'd bet on a different reason - the irrelevancy of IBM in modern tech.
[13:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	1 hour ago by Anonymous
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[13:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	 +4 
[13:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	@bm I wouldn't trust Arvind Krishna to sit the right way on a toilet seat, let alone use the toilet properly.
[13:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	3 hours ago by Anonymous
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[13:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	I wouldn't trust Arvind Krishna to change the light bulb in my kitchen, yet alone talk about anything in tech.
[13:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	8 hours ago by Anonymous
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[13:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	 +2 
[13:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	@OP :
[13:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	Same perspective can be applied to Quantum computing and then he can he heard saying - I dont believe that much incremental revenue is there.
[13:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	9 hours ago by Anonymous
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[13:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	 +1 
[13:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	Link to snippet of the interview from where the OP got the quote --
[13:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	https://www.instagram.com/reel/DZv3jkcpon3/
[13:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	10 hours ago by Anonymous
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[13:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	 +4 
[13:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	Arvind is an arrogant id--t who is jealous of other much better run firms with deeper pockets who can make the big AI investments so he has to throw stones to justify just how badly he has torn down IBM into a clown show. At 64 he getting senile now and 4 years past IBM's unstated rule of retiring at 60. I cannot wait to see this channel light up like a Christmas tree when he does leave and Robbie Thomas becomes IBM Head Cheerleade
[13:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	r. THAT WILL BE EPIC!
[13:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	11 hours ago by Anonymous
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[13:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	 -3 
[13:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	Arvind isn't saying AI is useless. He's saying investors should do the math instead of getting caught up in hype. That's called being a responsible CEO. When everyone else is talking about unlimited demand and endless growth, Arvind is asking whether trillions in infrastructure spending can realistically generate enough revenue to justify the investment. That's not anti-AIit's basic business discipline.
[13:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	He's also probably right that many large language models will become commodities. History is full of examples where the underlying technology became widely available and the real value shifted to execution, integration, data, customer relationships, and enterprise adoption. IBM has spent decades helping businesses solve real problems, not chasing every shiny object.
[13:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	I'd rather have a CEO who asks hard questions about return on investment than one who blindly throws shareholder money at the latest trend. Markets reward hype in the short term. They reward sound economics in the long term. Mr. Krishna is reminding people that eventually the bills come due
[13:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	13 hours ago by Anonymous
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[13:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	 +4 
[13:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	@a7 and it is a fool's errand.
[13:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	That's why Arvind has it.
[13:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	15 hours ago by Anonymous
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[13:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	 +1 
[13:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	This feels like a fools errand
[13:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	15 hours ago by Anonymous
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[13:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	 +6 
[13:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	Aren't there already 2-3 companies building the large models, the ones that matter anyway... xAI, OpenAI and Antropic... The rest are irrelevant... IBM is certainly not part of the group!
[13:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	But I agree that these models will become commodity very quick and it is hard to see how these companies will make revenues that compensate for all the investments.
[13:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	15 hours ago by Anonymous
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[13:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	 +6 
[13:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	Hes always wrong
[13:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	"
● Jun 23
[14:00]	schestowitz[TR2]	https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1kvp15esj
[14:01]	schestowitz[TR2]	""
[14:01]	schestowitz[TR2]	thats not true
[14:01]	schestowitz[TR2]	38 minutes ago by Anonymous
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[14:01]	schestowitz[TR2]	 0 
[14:01]	schestowitz[TR2]	@gt :
[14:01]	schestowitz[TR2]	search for ibm lca filings and you will see that their employment terms run for 3 years - is there any employee you know of who is a us citizen and his/her offer letter spans 3 years?
[14:01]	schestowitz[TR2]	https://h1bgrader.com/h1b-sponsors/ibm-corporation-l9k5w7nrk1/lca/2026
[14:01]	schestowitz[TR2]	47 minutes ago by Anonymous
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[14:01]	schestowitz[TR2]	RAs only impact US citizens
[14:01]	schestowitz[TR2]	48 minutes ago by Anonymous
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[14:01]	schestowitz[TR2]	 0 
[14:01]	schestowitz[TR2]	@gt At IBM consulting US citizens are considered contractors with no long term FTE prospects and are held at fault if there utilization goes low because of no contracts.
[14:01]	schestowitz[TR2]	53 minutes ago by Anonymous
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[14:01]	schestowitz[TR2]	Post ID: @h9+1kvp15esj
[14:01]	schestowitz[TR2]	 +1 
[14:01]	schestowitz[TR2]	Foolish question Is H1B person considered a contractor? If so contractors are just let go with no notice except turn in your laptop
[14:01]	schestowitz[TR2]	3 hours ago by Anonymous
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[14:01]	schestowitz[TR2]	Post ID: @gt+1kvp15esj
[14:01]	schestowitz[TR2]	 +5 
[14:01]	schestowitz[TR2]	@e5 The company is owned by India. They do not care about your employment laws. They love their caste system too much. Arvid blatantly bragged about using DEI as an excuse to discriminate against White Americans on camera which made international news and nothing happened.
[14:01]	schestowitz[TR2]	11 hours ago by Anonymous
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[14:01]	schestowitz[TR2]	 +4 
[14:01]	schestowitz[TR2]	@e2 yup thats the trick they use. When will they get called out on it?
[14:01]	schestowitz[TR2]	14 hours ago by Anonymous
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[14:01]	schestowitz[TR2]	Post ID: @em+1kvp15esj
[14:01]	schestowitz[TR2]	 +1 
[14:01]	schestowitz[TR2]	@e2 RAs shouldnt be tied to performance anyway. Some are let go from PIp without RA
[14:01]	schestowitz[TR2]	17 hours ago by Anonymous
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[14:01]	schestowitz[TR2]	 +3 
[14:01]	schestowitz[TR2]	@e2 :
[14:01]	schestowitz[TR2]	PIP was paper trail to justify RA but no paper trail to justify PIP? Appears to be some gross misconduct in terminations at a mass scale. And if only citizens are getting PIP, does that not put H1B workers at an advantage at the cost of US citizens - does that make it a visa fraud or employment discrimination?
[14:01]	schestowitz[TR2]	17 hours ago by Anonymous
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[14:01]	schestowitz[TR2]	Post ID: @e5+1kvp15esj
[14:01]	schestowitz[TR2]	 +3 
[14:01]	schestowitz[TR2]	My team that saw 10 RAs two weeks ago had multiple people that were put on PIPs out of the blue for spurious reasons, then let off the PIP almost immediately before getting the RA. Every one was an American and I was advised by senior leadership it was just to create a paper trail to justify the RAs if they were questioned later.
[14:01]	schestowitz[TR2]	So yes, they're targeting Americans with PIPs to create a paper trail to get rid of them later.
[14:01]	schestowitz[TR2]	17 hours ago by Anonymous
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[14:01]	schestowitz[TR2]	 +6 
[14:01]	schestowitz[TR2]	@a7 and in Albany only 40 and over is all Ive seen
[14:01]	schestowitz[TR2]	"
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[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1kvr3tf6z
[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	"I could not have said it better myself. HOWEVER have you ever tried to CALL the FBI? It is IMPOSSIBLE! Well you can CALL. But you will be sent to the longest and frustrating phonemail menu options path ever built. After 24 choices and 26 minutes in the end it will simply say report it online and hang up. Bizarre!
[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	What is left to be said about the clown show and dumpster fire IBM has become? The poem about SCOUNDRELS and FEDORAS made me laugh out my coffee this AM for a great laugh! All you can do!
[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	A scoundrel is a master of charm and mischiefsomeone who bends the rules, wears a clever smile, and always has an escape plan. Here is a poem capturing their roguish spirit. This is the IBM Cabal EXACTLY!
[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	They walk with a swagger, they speak with a grin,
[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	A delicate balance of virtue and sin.
[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	With pockets of promises, silver and light,
[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	They vanish like shadows ahead of the night.
[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	They know every secret, theyve mastered the art
[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	Of picking the lock on an innocent heart.
[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	They bow with politeness, they tip their fine hats,
[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	Then slip through the alleys like alley-bound cats.
[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	No truer companion in times of a test,
[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	Though trusting them fully is never the best.
[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	For scoundrels will promise the moon and the sea,
[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	Then leave you with laughter, and leave you set free.
[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	So heres to the rascals who toy with the rules,
[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	Who live by their wits and make proper men fools.
[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	They color the dullness of every gray day,
[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	Then tip their fedoras and vanish away.
[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	39 minutes ago by Anonymous
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[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	 +1 
[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	@bb :
[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	The day is not far till the client gets zero savings by useless offerings from IBM and sues them for selling powerpoint slides for millions of dollars
[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	58 minutes ago by Anonymous
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[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	 +3 
[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	@ad since this is a running Ponzi scheme and IBM Legal doesn't care to stop it, is it worth tipping off the FBI and SEC about this fraud ?
[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	After all, this "client zero" bunk is like the Emperor's New Clothes story.
[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	As PT Barnum said "There's a su---r born every minute". Isn't that true with Alvind and his Pipmunks ?
[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	13 hours ago by Anonymous
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[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	Post ID: @bb+1kvr3tf6z
[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	 +4 
[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	How much of the 4.5 billion was a result of offshoring? I would say at least 1/2
[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	13 hours ago by Anonymous
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[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	Post ID: @b6+1kvr3tf6z
[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	 +7 
[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	@ab well, these lines are so close to ones that the McKinsey and IBM BS consultants use to spew when they came came around to tell everyone about the "follow the sun" methodology and the "Outsourcing To India "trend in the late 1990s. You would be freed up from your job to pursue higher value work.
[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	If you asked them what higher value job you would be doing after your current job had gone to India, those same IBM and McKinsey people gave you a dirty look as though you were mentally re--rded. Very rarely was there ever a straight answer from them. It was lambs to the sla-ghter in the US.
[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	Where are those crooks now, eh ?
[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	15 hours ago by Anonymous
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[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	 +5 
[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	IBM saved billions a.k.a handed out the money to shareholders that would have been the salary of 8000 HR folks who were fired so that CEO could collect his millions of dollars in bonus. Employee experience ? Use AskHR that is useless, then send an email for support so that someone can look into the issue with AskHR, then go thru this cycle of endless frustration. End goal is that you realize there is no point in asking any policy r
[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	elated questions because there is no HR. To keep your job, watch the client zero videos created by clueless but cunning senior executives, and flawlessly repeat this cost saving bullsh-t from the videos to clients to sell cr-p created by offshore developers that doesnt work. IBM will support you with the curated content in your linkedin feed to make this sh-t glitter like gold. If you are unable to sell the cr-p , then IBM saves ev
[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	en more because you get PIPed to oblivion.
[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	17 hours ago by Anonymous
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[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	 +5 
[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	no no no silly; not $4.5B it is $45B savings! Next year it will be $90B savings.
[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	Ponzi
[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	Your promises mean nothing if they lack
[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	fidelity. It grieves a man to hear
[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	such welcome words, then have them taken back
[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	without the least regret before a year
[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	has passed. I thought our future was secure,
[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	but that just shows me what a fool Ive been
[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	I hadnt met the likes of you before,
[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	which might explain how I was taken in.
[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	You did not say you were my honeybee
[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	or whisper secrets while we shared a cup,
[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	but when you sold me on your money tree
[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	I never dreamed Id see it belly-up.
[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	You offered hope of vast financial gain,
[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	but naught to cope with loss or soften pain.
[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	18 hours ago by Anonymous
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[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	Post ID: @ad+1kvr3tf6z
[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	 +6 
[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	"the technology is freeing up creative teams from menial tasks"
[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	=
[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	the technology is freeing up creative teams from their jobs
[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	18 hours ago by Anonymous
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[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	 +6 
[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	What a load of IBM-speak: "talk a lot, say nothing of substance." What he means is they fired most of the writers and designers, and now rely on AI to create content. Then the content gets tweaked by people where English is their second language. Wow. What creative flows forth!! The one person that could be replaced by AI (or a tree) is Ad-shack. His first day as CMO he said "I don't know anything about marketing." We were all trul
[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	y inspired having that kind of IBM leadership. Then fire all the US-based folks and get our curry friends to "fix the words" that AI creates. It makes for a cheap way to create content. And, as per usual at IBM, you get what you pay for. Glad to be gone.
[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	18 hours ago by Anonymous
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[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	 +8 
[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	Pure garbage.
[14:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	"
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[14:03]	schestowitz[TR2]	https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1kvszwc11
[14:03]	schestowitz[TR2]	"
[14:03]	schestowitz[TR2]	Remember when RAs were just occasional?
[14:03]	schestowitz[TR2]	They happened once in a while and for the rest of the time we were able to focus on our work properly. Can we ever go back to that? Or is that behind us for good?
[14:03]	schestowitz[TR2]	"
[14:03]	schestowitz[TR2]	"
[14:03]	schestowitz[TR2]	@ag What garbage are you spewing ?
[14:03]	schestowitz[TR2]	Yeah, Layoffs take their toll on Alvind, It increased his wealth by $100 bonus.
[14:03]	schestowitz[TR2]	We do not need your fake sympathy.
[14:03]	schestowitz[TR2]	Go back to your hole.
[14:03]	schestowitz[TR2]	2 minutes ago by Anonymous
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[14:03]	schestowitz[TR2]	Layoffs are never easy for anyone involved. Employees lose jobs, teams lose colleagues, and families face uncertainty. But it's also worth remembering that executive leadership has a responsibility to keep the company viable for the hundreds of thousands of people who remain. Sometimes that means making difficult decisions that nobody enjoys making.
[14:03]	schestowitz[TR2]	Arvind and his executives have to make tough decisions and it takes a toll on them too.
[14:03]	schestowitz[TR2]	Nobody celebrates a layoff, but leadership's job is to position the company for long-term survival and growth, even when the decisions are unpopular.
[14:03]	schestowitz[TR2]	7 minutes ago by Anonymous
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[14:03]	schestowitz[TR2]	It will never return to the olden days. Fear is seen as a powerful motivator and the blowtorch under our collective butts helps keep us from getting complacent.
[14:03]	schestowitz[TR2]	For better or worse, this is the new normal.
[14:03]	schestowitz[TR2]	15 minutes ago by Anonymous
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[14:03]	schestowitz[TR2]	None will happen in 2026! Arvind says!
[14:03]	schestowitz[TR2]	1 hour ago by Anonymous
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[14:03]	schestowitz[TR2]	 +2 
[14:03]	schestowitz[TR2]	No, you are not going back. There is no actual work to focus on and Bob has taken over the menial repetitive work from Watson. RAs are still occasional as PIP has become the de facto tool used by IBM to get rid of masses.
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[20:16]	schestowitz[TR2]	https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1kvrnnq21#replies
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[20:16]	schestowitz[TR2]	"yep. Having IBM on your resume screams you take no risks. Your "skills" do not exist or are 30 years obsolete. Your are part of the walking dead plodding 1 foot in front of the other day after day week after week month after month. You think cloud is the puffy white thing in the sky and a server is the person who brings you food.
[20:16]	schestowitz[TR2]	2 minutes ago by Anonymous
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[20:16]	schestowitz[TR2]	 +1 
[20:16]	schestowitz[TR2]	@dr
[20:16]	schestowitz[TR2]	I agree with you, though there are still some smart people in Expert Labs, but they are leaving quickly.
[20:16]	schestowitz[TR2]	57 minutes ago by Anonymous
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[20:16]	schestowitz[TR2]	 +2 
[20:16]	schestowitz[TR2]	I think they rolled TLS into Expert Labs so there is a mirage of incoming revenue since TLS is mostly hw and sw support and break fix on contracts that have been in place for decades. All IBM does to grow it is raise prices 6-8% every year. Expert Labs should have gone to the body shop formerly known as kyndryl. Nobody pays any attention to IBM now that they have hired and promoted a bunch of cheer leaders vs wicked smart people or
[20:16]	schestowitz[TR2]	 true leaders and managers like they had for decades.
[20:16]	schestowitz[TR2]	1 hour ago by Anonymous
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[20:16]	schestowitz[TR2]	 +1 
[20:16]	schestowitz[TR2]	@cm yup it was a d-mb idea with no ROI
[20:16]	schestowitz[TR2]	4 hours ago by Anonymous
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[20:16]	schestowitz[TR2]	 +1 
[20:16]	schestowitz[TR2]	If IBM could get rid of expert labs itself by assigning PIP it would - brick and mortar is not that easy to write off
[20:16]	schestowitz[TR2]	"
[20:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1kvtcxm4w#replies
[20:18]		-TechBytesBot/#techbytes- ( status 403 @ https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1kvtcxm4w#replies )
[20:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	"The G Man was forever angry at the world when he lost 2 fingers "in a lawn mower accident". Yeah right. He clogged his mower and cut off 2 fingers when he tried to clear it.
[20:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	8 minutes ago by Anonymous
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[20:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	@ax Moffat was a ^&*(. Had an affair and did insider trading and went to jail.
[20:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	6 months in jail and $50K fine. All of them should see the inside of San Quentin or Rikers Island.
[20:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/newyork/press-releases/2010/nyfo091310.htm
[20:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	10 minutes ago by Anonymous
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[20:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	 -1 
[20:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	@ax
[20:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	Mr Gerstner did not steal anything. He turned around and saved IBM.
[20:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	Moffat engaged in insider trading and blew everything. He was groomed to be the next CEO. However his greed led to his demise.
[20:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	16 minutes ago by Anonymous
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[20:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	 +1 
[20:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	@a6 so tell us how you feel about Mr. Dead Gerbil when he left IBM ?
[20:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	And what you feel for Bob Moffat when he was forced to exchange his overpriced digs for a jail cell ?
[20:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	22 minutes ago by Anonymous
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[20:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	 +2 
[20:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	    expanded its AI offerings around watsonx
[20:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[20:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	35 minutes ago by Anonymous
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[20:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	 +2 
[20:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	Based on the data provided by @OP, Alvind compensation is equal to the average compensation of 760 IBM employees.
[20:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	I have a request for @a6, Alvind's cheerleader and chief apologist officer.
[20:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	What are Alvind's PERSONAL quality that justify hie is compensated more than 760 employees ?
[20:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	Be precise, no hand waiving, provide facts.
[20:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	1 hour ago by Anonymous
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[20:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	 +1 
[20:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	He gave himself 371,000 IBM shares and at $65 per today that is a cool $98,000,000. He will wlak away with well over $250M.
[20:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	1 hour ago by Anonymous
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[20:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	 0 
[20:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	@OP did you not get a 51% raise [ in your job responsibilities ] ?
[20:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	1 hour ago by Anonymous
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[20:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	 -10 
[20:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	I understand why people see a $38 million compensation figure and get angry, especially after layoffs. That's a natural reaction. But CEO compensation at large public companies is heavily tied to stock awards and long-term performance metrics, not just a giant paycheck deposited into a bank account.
[20:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	The other side of the story is that IBM's stock was up significantly during the period being measured, revenue has stabilized compared to years of decline, the company completed the acquisition of HashiCorp, expanded its AI offerings around watsonx, and continues to generate substantial cash flow. The board's job is to determine whether Mr. Krishna delivered results relative to the goals they set.
[20:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	4 hours ago by Anonymous
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[20:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	 +2 
[20:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	Ha and no raises across the entire company! This feels like a movie!
[20:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	"
[20:18]		-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-archives.fbi.gov | FBI Former IBM Senior Vice President Sentenced in Manhattan Federal Court to Six Months in Prison in Insider Trading Case
[20:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	"
[20:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	Top-Paid CEOs Smash the $200 Million Payday
[20:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	https://www.wsj.com/articles/ceo-pay-2025-d2885ea3
[20:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	[Didn't quote entire article text, just extracted AK's info. from the interactive table in the article].
[20:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	AK ranks 34th out of 392 CEOs on the list:
[20:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	Total pay: $38M
[20:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	Pay Change: +51.1%
[20:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	1-Year Return: 38%
[20:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	Median Employee Pay: $49,630
[20:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	Waiting with bated breath for my 51% raise this year!
[20:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	"
[20:20]	schestowitz[TR2]	https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1kvszwc11#replies
[20:20]	schestowitz[TR2]	"same old troll, same old BS spouting out.
[20:20]	schestowitz[TR2]	Can you STFU for a change ? Oh wait, you can't do that can ya ?
[20:20]	schestowitz[TR2]	1 hour ago by Anonymous
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[20:20]	schestowitz[TR2]	 +2 
[20:20]	schestowitz[TR2]	@ax evidence is in the HR files at IBM, have you looked at them, or even have access to that information ? probably not as you most certainly work as a janitor whose job is to happily clean the stinking sh-t of his masters and not complain so that you keep a steady income stream of your minimum wage. what is it that they are paying you to spread the lies here, like $ 17.5 / hr ?
[20:20]	schestowitz[TR2]	1 hour ago by Anonymous
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[20:20]	schestowitz[TR2]	 -9 
[20:20]	schestowitz[TR2]	@an
[20:20]	schestowitz[TR2]	You're presenting an allegation as a fact. If IBM is truly firing 15% of its workforce every year through fabricated performance ratings solely to avoid severance, where is the evidence? IBM has gone through workforce reductions, like virtually every large technology company at various points, but there's a difference between criticizing management decisions and assuming every poor performance rating is part of a grand conspiracy.
[20:20]	schestowitz[TR2]	Also, shareholders being paid and executives receiving compensation isn't evidence of wrongdoing. Public companies exist to create value for shareholders. The real question is whether leadership is making the right long-term decisions for the business. That's a debate worth having. Simply assuming every layoff victim was secretly targeted to enrich executives skips over a lot of facts.
[20:20]	schestowitz[TR2]	Reasonable people can disagree with Arvinds strategy, but "everyone I don't like is either corrupt or incompetent" isn't much of an argument.
[20:20]	schestowitz[TR2]	4 hours ago by Anonymous
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[20:20]	schestowitz[TR2]	 +3 
[20:20]	schestowitz[TR2]	@am you are right running a company with hundreds of thousands of employees requires making a brutal decision to constantly get rid of 15% of them by marking them as low performers and then firing them with PIP so that no payout is given as severance - that way shareholders can continue to be paid and executives can get the bonuses - consequences for everybody involved indeed.
[20:20]	schestowitz[TR2]	5 hours ago by Anonymous
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[20:20]	schestowitz[TR2]	 -8 
[20:20]	schestowitz[TR2]	@ah
[20:20]	schestowitz[TR2]	You can disagree with Arvinds decisions. You can argue some layoffs were unnecessary. That's a fair debate. But responding with insults instead of arguments doesn't change the fact that running a global company requires making decisions that affect hundreds of thousands of employees, customers, and shareholders. Those decisions carry consequences for everyone involved, whether you like the executives or not.
[20:20]	schestowitz[TR2]	5 hours ago by Anonymous
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[20:20]	schestowitz[TR2]	 +3 
[20:20]	schestowitz[TR2]	@aj oh my, i will take a pay cut of $1 / day if it helps relieve the pain that alvind has inflected on himself by setting an ambitious target of $100 million bonus - should be enough to buy generic Ibuprofen off the shelf
[20:20]	schestowitz[TR2]	5 hours ago by Anonymous
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[20:20]	schestowitz[TR2]	 +3 
[20:20]	schestowitz[TR2]	@ah. Alvind bonus is $100 millions this year. It is taking a heavy toll on him.
[20:20]	schestowitz[TR2]	6 hours ago by Anonymous
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[20:20]	schestowitz[TR2]	 +2 
[20:20]	schestowitz[TR2]	@ag What garbage are you spewing ?
[20:20]	schestowitz[TR2]	Yeah, Layoffs take their toll on Alvind, It increased his wealth by $100 bonus.
[20:20]	schestowitz[TR2]	We do not need your fake sympathy.
[20:20]	schestowitz[TR2]	Go back to your hole.
[20:20]	schestowitz[TR2]	6 hours ago by Anonymous
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[20:20]	schestowitz[TR2]	 -5 
[20:20]	schestowitz[TR2]	Layoffs are never easy for anyone involved. Employees lose jobs, teams lose colleagues, and families face uncertainty. But it's also worth remembering that executive leadership has a responsibility to keep the company viable for the hundreds of thousands of people who remain. Sometimes that means making difficult decisions that nobody enjoys making.
[20:20]	schestowitz[TR2]	Arvind and his executives have to make tough decisions and it takes a toll on them too.
[20:20]	schestowitz[TR2]	Nobody celebrates a layoff, but leadership's job is to position the company for long-term survival and growth, even when the decisions are unpopular.
[20:20]	schestowitz[TR2]	6 hours ago by Anonymous
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[20:20]	schestowitz[TR2]	It will never return to the olden days. Fear is seen as a powerful motivator and the blowtorch under our collective butts helps keep us from getting complacent.
[20:20]	schestowitz[TR2]	For better or worse, this is the new normal.
[20:20]	schestowitz[TR2]	6 hours ago by Anonymous
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[20:20]	schestowitz[TR2]	 +1 
[20:20]	schestowitz[TR2]	None will happen in 2026! Arvind says!
[20:20]	schestowitz[TR2]	7 hours ago by Anonymous
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[20:20]	schestowitz[TR2]	 +4 
[20:20]	schestowitz[TR2]	No, you are not going back. There is no actual work to focus on and Bob has taken over the menial repetitive work from Watson. RAs are still occasional as PIP has become the de facto tool used by IBM to get rid of masses.
[20:20]	schestowitz[TR2]	"
[20:20]		-TechBytesBot/#techbytes- ( status 401 @ https://www.wsj.com/articles/ceo-pay-2025-d2885ea3 )
[20:20]		-TechBytesBot/#techbytes- ( status 403 @ https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1kvszwc11#replies )
[20:20]	schestowitz[TR2]	https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1kvra27zp#replies
[20:21]	schestowitz[TR2]	"IBM connected monitors heavily redact and censor the page. They should just come here to post
[20:21]	schestowitz[TR2]	2 hours ago by Anonymous
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[20:21]	schestowitz[TR2]	@d0 :
[20:21]	schestowitz[TR2]	ponzi scheme at work - take debt, raid a profitable company for its ip, cut the perks and employees and pay the dividend for ibm stock. house of cards is about to collapse with a little gust of wind.
[20:21]	schestowitz[TR2]	5 hours ago by Anonymous
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[20:21]	schestowitz[TR2]	@d5 yea I saw that post about No Raises was removed yesterday too on Reddit? Why? It didnt violate any rules
[20:21]	schestowitz[TR2]	7 hours ago by Anonymous
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[20:21]	schestowitz[TR2]	 +3 
[20:21]	schestowitz[TR2]	All of the Reddit posts on this topic have been quickly removed. Let's see if this thread here lasts the day. IBM desperately doing damage control.
[20:21]	schestowitz[TR2]	7 hours ago by Anonymous
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[20:21]	schestowitz[TR2]	 +3 
[20:21]	schestowitz[TR2]	@cv it's strange that the company is showing investors money when the IBM share price has been stagnant for many years and the dividend only gets increased by 1 cent (0.01 cent) every year. It is pathetic. For a billion dollar company like IBM, one would expect a higher share price and a higher dividend. If it is not growing, why is that ? Fiddles done by executives at the top for siphoning $$ from the company ? They sure ain't mak
[20:21]	schestowitz[TR2]	ing better (award winning) products at IBM.
[20:21]	schestowitz[TR2]	8 hours ago by Anonymous
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[20:21]	schestowitz[TR2]	 +2 
[20:21]	schestowitz[TR2]	Before getting RA managers were only allowed x amount of 2+ to get a raise, plus the year Ginni said no raises for anyone. It's a game where the CEO's from present back to Sam play to show investors money
[20:21]	schestowitz[TR2]	"
[20:23]		-TechBytesBot/#techbytes- ( status 403 @ https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1kvra27zp#replies )
[20:24]	schestowitz[TR2]	https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1kvrfs2nc#replies
[20:24]	schestowitz[TR2]	""There is no "Quantum chip technology race". Quantum computing is a scientific research project that likely won't culminate in any sort of commercially viable product for another 20-30 years MINIMUM. The press releases stating 3-5 years are just hype for uneducated investors.
[20:24]	schestowitz[TR2]	5 hours ago by Anonymous
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[20:24]	schestowitz[TR2]	Even though he might raised some good points and i'm also wondering how all these investments in AI Data Centers are going to be turned into profit without truly eliminating massive amounts of jobs. As i think, you have to replace the GPUs, TPUs or whatever within like 3-5 years.
[20:24]	schestowitz[TR2]	However i think the true reason for these comments is:
[20:24]	schestowitz[TR2]	    damage control over what was released over "a global study IBM released on June 17 found that 91% of enterprise executives do not fully understand their own AI dependencies and feel trapped in systems they cannot easily change."
[20:24]	schestowitz[TR2]	    aka no clear ROI, now stating AI saved 4.5 billion over 3 years. And we all know how these calculations are done. Take anything at least a little bit or indirectly connected to AI and count it in.
[20:24]	schestowitz[TR2]	    PR circus for WS and investors to hide the incompetence - not part of the hype, so downgrade it a little
[20:24]	schestowitz[TR2]	    same as Quantum, Arvind trying to turn the eye of Sauron from AI, in which IBM lost the game on all levels (and they should be happy that are part of the Glasswing project so they fix their products, steal/monetize on somebody elses work) trying move the hype on Quantum to please the investors
[20:24]	schestowitz[TR2]	    All in all, all of those PR bullsh-ts are being made to potentially increase the stock price
[20:24]	schestowitz[TR2]	= assuring his fat bonus check, otherwise he don't care about the company at all, once and soon as he leaves, he and his companions are just trying to get as much as possible for themselves before they retire/leave.
[20:24]	schestowitz[TR2]	5 hours ago by Anonymous
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[20:24]	schestowitz[TR2]	 +4 
[20:24]	schestowitz[TR2]	@cv you said it !
[20:24]	schestowitz[TR2]	But wait, there's more - IBM will be left in the dust for the Quantum chip technology race next. When you have a company run by losers like Arvind and his Pipmunks, you cannot help but wonder for how long they will be in business. Nothing but a bunch of overpaid executives who fail to deliver on their promises every single time.
[20:24]	schestowitz[TR2]	7 hours ago by Anonymous
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[20:24]	schestowitz[TR2]	Classic bullsh-t disguised as an opinion on AI
[20:24]	schestowitz[TR2]	7 hours ago by Anonymous
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[20:24]	schestowitz[TR2]	 +4 
[20:24]	schestowitz[TR2]	This is just one long rambling excuse about why IBM has completely been left in the dust in the AI market and doesn't even remotely have any sort of compelling offering here.
[20:24]	schestowitz[TR2]	Arvind is completely irrelevant amongst tech leaders. Ever notice that he is NEVER pictured with the other Tech CEOs in the media? Now it's possible that it's because those pictures tend to be cropped at about waist height so he simply isn't visible, but I'd bet on a different reason - the irrelevancy of IBM in modern tech.
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