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| schestowitz | Re: There's something to this | Jul 23 01:53 |
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| schestowitz | > At first this just seemed like a lot of stupid drama, but it got interesting as it progressed. Maybe you'll notice what I did. | Jul 23 01:53 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 23 01:53 |
| schestowitz | > If you haven't watched the BBC Panorama special on Scientology, you should. There's a point in it where the host finally succumbs to the interrogation techniques used by Tommy Davis, and he just loses it and starts yelling. | Jul 23 01:53 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 23 01:53 |
| schestowitz | > In particular (there are over a hundred posts here-- read whatever matters to you and ignore the rest) the 20 questions and 20 answers are of interest, as far as I'm concerned. If anything at all leads you to think that I'm just saying that, you misunderstand-- I do find them most interesting. The rest is arguably interesting too. I'll copy here the part I'm referring to. https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7f168810a430013896e72a0000053625 | Jul 23 01:53 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-Not a Diaspora post? | Jul 23 01:53 | |
| schestowitz | 841e1b30ae4e01385bd7101b0efced44 It is unfortunate that the way selection works in typical browsers that the numbering is not copied along with the text. | Jul 23 01:53 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 23 01:53 |
| schestowitz | > kmicu - about 2 hours ago | Jul 23 01:53 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 23 01:53 |
| schestowitz | > You stated that I haven’t asked a single honest question? Are all following questions asked by me in this thread dishonest? Is this what you think—that every question below is dishonest? | Jul 23 01:53 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 23 01:53 |
| schestowitz | > Am I correct thinking that Khun (who defends GPL on any occasion) is also a bad person because he does not support RMS? | Jul 23 01:53 |
| schestowitz | > Do you think equaling our statements out‑of‑context is fair? | Jul 23 01:53 |
| schestowitz | > And you think that cocs are bad for libre software? Do they violate any four freedoms? | Jul 23 01:53 |
| schestowitz | > Are folks developing copyleft code full of shit too only because they want a kind work environment? | Jul 23 01:53 |
| schestowitz | > Could you link to your books? | Jul 23 01:53 |
| schestowitz | > I want a chapter because you wrote two books and now you don’t have them? | Jul 23 01:53 |
| schestowitz | > Heh, so a book is defined as some articles posted on a website? | Jul 23 01:53 |
| schestowitz | > What is ‘the half-president of the FSF’? | Jul 23 01:53 |
| schestowitz | > Ok freelabs but where is a link to the chapter? | Jul 23 01:53 |
| schestowitz | > You stated you wrote it and it’s published but cannot provide the link? | Jul 23 01:53 |
| schestowitz | > Rewriting? Are you saying you did not call me ‘mo**erf**ker’, ‘full of sh*t’ or that I should go ‘kill myself’ in first messages? | Jul 23 01:53 |
| schestowitz | > What did they do exactly to deserve that besides not being blindly loyal to RMS? | Jul 23 01:53 |
| schestowitz | > What exactly FSF did against libre software and copyleft but not against RMS? | Jul 23 01:53 |
| schestowitz | > Is Khun ‘scumbag and traitor’ too for writing http://ebb.org/bkuhn/blog/2019/10/15/fsf-rms.html ? | Jul 23 01:53 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ebb.org | On Recent Controversial Events - Bradley M. Kuhn ( Brad ) ( bkuhn ) | Jul 23 01:54 | |
| schestowitz | > Are GNU devs ‘scumbags and traitors’ https://guix.gnu.org/blog/2019/joint-statement-on-the-gnu-project/ ? | Jul 23 01:54 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-guix.gnu.org | Joint statement on the GNU Project — 2019 — Blog — GNU Guix | Jul 23 01:54 | |
| schestowitz | > Could you show us the list of programs installed on your distro so we could check whether you are (using your words) a ‘corporate whore’? | Jul 23 01:54 |
| schestowitz | > If someone contributes a fix for GPLed program hosted on Github is that person a ‘corporate whore’? | Jul 23 01:54 |
| schestowitz | > Would you be kind enough to use ‘traitors to RMS’ to be not confusing or is that on purpose? | Jul 23 01:54 |
| schestowitz | > What does it mean something is friendly with someone? How did you asses that? | Jul 23 01:54 |
| schestowitz | > Do you use GPLed programs developed on Github on your computer? | Jul 23 01:54 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 23 01:54 |
| schestowitz | > freelabs federation | Jul 23 01:54 |
| schestowitz | > freelabs federation - 41 minutes ago | Jul 23 01:54 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 23 01:54 |
| schestowitz | > no, stupid/dishonest question. | Jul 23 01:54 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 23 01:54 |
| schestowitz | > dont know what you mean, dont care either. | Jul 23 01:54 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 23 01:54 |
| schestowitz | > yes, irrelevant. | Jul 23 01:54 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 23 01:54 |
| schestowitz | > no, stupid/dishonest question. | Jul 23 01:54 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 23 01:54 |
| schestowitz | > youve asked easily a dozen times and ive answered several times; it may have started as a real question (i really doubt it) but it isnt a real question anymore-- it merely represents “proof” in an arbitrary and circular argument of yours. | Jul 23 01:54 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 23 01:54 |
| schestowitz | > youre asking me what i think your intentions are when ive already said what i think they are. | Jul 23 01:54 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 23 01:54 |
| schestowitz | > i alreayd answered this as well, its an utterly stupid question that is either dishonest or out of touch with the past decade or more of publishing-- what the actual fuck? like all of your questions, it isnt really a question but a statement phrased in question form. youre bullshitting. even your first question was bullshit-- youve shown absolutely no interest in the answer. | Jul 23 01:54 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 23 01:54 |
| schestowitz | > fucking look it up. its EASY information to find. so was the first answer you got, but you started bitching about that. if you expect people to do your basic search engine work for you after the way you responded to the first answer you got, youre a lunatic. its like expecting someone to fetch you the morning paper after youve thrown breakfast in their face. get off your worthless ass and do it yourself. | Jul 23 01:54 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 23 01:54 |
| schestowitz | > seriously-- you can ask about anything anybody has said on the internet. if you think that means theyre going to drop what theyre doing and bow to your will, you can go fuck yourself. | Jul 23 01:54 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 23 01:54 |
| schestowitz | > i only mentioned it as a bemused response to a fallacious comment you made in the first place, its not as if theres a formal argument that rests on it, so you can take any insuation about burden of proof and shove that up your ass as well. | Jul 23 01:54 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 23 01:54 |
| schestowitz | > same question as number 5. not only did you ask countless times throughout this delusional interrogation process that started with you VERY FIRST REPLY, youve asked it TWICE in this very set of questions and the answer is the same. | Jul 23 01:54 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 23 01:54 |
| schestowitz | > thats three times youve asked in this set of questions. do you interrogate people for a living? | Jul 23 01:54 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 23 01:54 |
| schestowitz | > reworded your question to be less bullshit after previous version of it was called out as bullshit. but thats the minor transgression here. the real problem is that youre just looking for reasons to harass me personally-- which takes the form of ENDLESS MEANINGLESS AND BULLSHIT QUESTIONS-- most of which would have no bearing on anything, IF you were even interested in the answer. | Jul 23 01:54 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 23 01:54 |
| schestowitz | > you dont believe anything youve been told, which makes all of your questions COMPLETELY irrelevant. theres no point in asking them if you dont care about the answer, you didnt care about the FIRST answer to your question, youre only still asking questions to be AN ENORMOUS chest-beating douchebag. | Jul 23 01:54 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 23 01:54 |
| schestowitz | > which sums up the sort of people i was complaining about in the first place-- the ones who took over debian and the fsf. | Jul 23 01:54 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 23 01:54 |
| schestowitz | > so like i said before: FUCK you. | Jul 23 01:55 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 23 01:55 |
| schestowitz | > stupid question because ive answered it in about 30 different ways already. you ignore answers and then demand answers. none of that what youre doing is honest, all of what youre doing is bullshit. YOU are bullshit. you are the archetypal, personifcation of stupid fucking bullshit. | Jul 23 01:55 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 23 01:55 |
| schestowitz | > as ive pointed out several times, what youre doing is nothing but scientology-style bullbaiting: WHAT ARE YOUR CRIMES? WHAT ARE YOUR CRIMES? CMON BUNKER, WHAT ARE YOUR CRIMES? | Jul 23 01:55 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 23 01:55 |
| schestowitz | > youre this person: https://invidio.us/watch?v=ocw90W44Boc | Jul 23 01:55 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 23 01:55 |
| schestowitz | > youre this person: https://invidio.us/watch?v=vyhSOHOF2gU | Jul 23 01:55 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 23 01:55 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-invidio.us | Scientology - What are your crimes? - Invidious | Jul 23 01:55 | |
| schestowitz | > youre using cult/interrogation techniques. this isnt a debate, nor are they real questions. | Jul 23 01:55 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 23 01:55 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-invidio.us | Scientology Mantra: What Are Your Crimes? - Invidious | Jul 23 01:55 | |
| schestowitz | > i suspect you interrogate people for a living, or work with people who do. its also possible youre in a cult-- i dont know where else you would learn to do this, but then again: | Jul 23 01:55 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 23 01:55 |
| schestowitz | > https://pro.psychcentral.com/exhausted-woman/2015/06/how-a-narcissist-verbally-abuses/ | Jul 23 01:55 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-pro.psychcentral.com | How A Narcissist Verbally Abuses | The Exhausted Woman | Jul 23 01:55 | |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 23 01:55 |
| schestowitz | > none of which matters to you of course-- because NONE OF YOUR QUESTIONS ARE HONEST. | Jul 23 01:55 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 23 01:55 |
| schestowitz | > youll turn every statement made into another question, to prevent anybody from making a point. | Jul 23 01:55 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 23 01:55 |
| schestowitz | > if i was trying to convince you of anything, id be a lot more frustrated. | Jul 23 01:55 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 23 01:55 |
| schestowitz | > instead i recognize the dishonest game youre playing, and tell you to shove the whole thing up your ass-- which you should, by the way. including all of this. | Jul 23 01:55 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 23 01:55 |
| schestowitz | > LOTS of things. but it isnt a real question. youre simply implying the reduction of what i said to the superficiality of the question. its a loaded question tweaked to look like a sincere one. but the context of everything else kind of gives it away. and NOBODY OWES YOU A FUCKING ANSWER. the only reason you think someone does is youre delusional and authoritarian. are you quite sure youre not a republican? | Jul 23 01:55 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 23 01:55 |
| schestowitz | > while deliberately not answering your question directly-- if you cant tell how dishonest and sanctimonius that article is, i feel sorry for you. its been thoroughly challenged, but nobody cares because the whole thing is dishonest and supporting something based on lies. if you challenge it, they just double down on the lying. | Jul 23 01:55 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 23 01:55 |
| schestowitz | > kuhn has no moral compass and no integrity. but youre still asking if one example is the reason-- and just as with your thirteenth question: | Jul 23 01:55 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 23 01:55 |
| schestowitz | > it isnt a real question. youre simply implying the reduction of what i said to the superficiality of the question.** its a loaded question tweaked to look like a sincere one. but the context of everything else kind of gives it away. and NOBODY OWES YOU A FUCKING ANSWER. | Jul 23 01:55 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 23 01:55 |
| schestowitz | > also, fuck you. | Jul 23 01:55 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 23 01:55 |
| schestowitz | > this is the same question as 14 and 13. theyre not real questions, its just interrogation. youre bull-baiting. | Jul 23 01:55 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 23 01:55 |
| schestowitz | > that has nothing to do with my definition of a corporate whore. you misunderstood or invented it. it has no relevance to anything i said. its a straw man. also, fuck you. | Jul 23 01:55 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 23 01:55 |
| schestowitz | > stupid question. and given 16, which is more clearly dishonest, and the fact that 16 and 17 are basically the same question, and 13, 14 and 15 are basically the same question, none of these are real questions-- its just interrogation. also, fuck you. | Jul 23 01:55 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 23 01:55 |
| schestowitz | > not a real question. | Jul 23 01:56 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 23 01:56 |
| schestowitz | > irrelevant-- see answers to 17, 16, 15, 14 and 13. nobody owes you a fucking answer. | Jul 23 01:56 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 23 01:56 |
| schestowitz | > basically the same question as 16 and 17, worded slightly differently. | Jul 23 01:56 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 23 01:56 |
| schestowitz | > youre not interested in answers. | Jul 23 01:56 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 23 01:56 |
| schestowitz | > youre only interested in demanding things. | Jul 23 01:56 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 23 01:56 |
| schestowitz | > also-- fuck you. | Jul 23 01:56 |
| schestowitz | > NOW: THIS INTERROGATION IS OVER. | Jul 23 01:56 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 23 01:56 |
| schestowitz | > youve done enough to yourself already. quit before you make it worse. | Jul 23 01:56 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 23 01:56 |
| schestowitz | > asshole. | Jul 23 01:56 |
| schestowitz | > kmicu | Jul 23 01:56 |
| schestowitz | > kmicu - 31 minutes ago | Jul 23 01:56 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 23 01:56 |
| schestowitz | > First you claim I asked no honest questions so I literally show you plain questions so now confronted with that you change tone and say those are not questions but interrogation or ‘nobody owes me [] answers’. | Jul 23 01:56 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 23 01:56 |
| schestowitz | > That’s Moving the goalposts fallacy. | Jul 23 01:56 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 23 01:56 |
| schestowitz | > I listed those questions because you wrote I did not ask real questions but once again you avoid taking responsibility for you statements and when asked about details you start talking about something else. | Jul 23 01:56 |
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