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schestowitz[10:45] <Guest61833> Hi schestowitz, I’m xxxxx – could you please remove my plain-text email from this post? http://techrights.org/2020/08/23/back-stabbing-richard-stallman/Aug 24 11:13
schestowitz[10:45] <Guest61833> I just mean the email address, hey at xxxxxxxx – thanksAug 24 11:13
schestowitz[10:49] <Guest61833> (Also just sent you an email from that address to s at schestowitz dot com – please let me know when my email address is removed. Thanks.)Aug 24 11:13
schestowitz[11:09] <Guest61833> Closing this IRC tab now, so no need to reply here. As said I sent an email. Thanks!Aug 24 11:13
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | Leak: Richard Stallman (RMS) Was Betrayed by Matthias Kirschner’s FSFE, Which Closely Connected With People Who Attack Stallman | TechrightsAug 24 11:13
schestowitzI wish this made more sense to me, can someone help decipher this to someone who lacks context?Aug 24 11:19
schestowitzI'm always working on open source code and Linux but I have to be honest, I really don't understand the licensing outside of the very basics.Aug 24 11:19
schestowitzMy understanding of why this might be bad for open source is that it means, code might end up being littered with GPL and Non-GPL contributions?Aug 24 11:19
schestowitzBut would that actually be possible if the project where the contribution is made is GPL?Aug 24 11:19
schestowitzThanks in advance!Aug 24 11:19
schestowitzhttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24258904Aug 24 11:19
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-news.ycombinator.com | The Linux Foundation in 2020 Helps Serial GPL Violators Get Away with It | Hacker NewsAug 24 11:19
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/bobafeldman1/status/1297929594272702466Aug 24 17:39
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@bobafeldman1: @CJR 2007 article that also examined how Columbia University funder Gates has historically attempted to shape publi… https://t.co/RGDAsAGQxvAug 24 17:39
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@bobafeldman1: @CJR 2007 article that also examined how Columbia University funder Gates has historically attempted to shape publi… https://t.co/RGDAsAGQxvAug 24 17:39
schestowitz"2007 article that also examined how Columbia University funder Gates has historically attempted to shape public discourse (as well as discourse on Columbia University's campus, perhaps?):"Aug 24 17:39
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/bobafeldman1/status/1297927468238741510Aug 24 17:39
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@bobafeldman1: @caseycorr 2007 article related to U.S. Power Elite's "Media-Gates Scandal": https://t.co/ZP7WAeHQ5yAug 24 17:39
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes- ( status 500 @ https://techrights.org/2007/11/30/journalism-bias-microsoft/ )Aug 24 17:39
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/bobafeldman1/status/1297927040520331265Aug 24 17:39
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@bobafeldman1: @mediagazer @TimothyWSchwab 2007 article related to U.S. Power Elite's "Media-Gates Scandal", that might contain so… https://t.co/6k17KuuyurAug 24 17:39
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@bobafeldman1: @mediagazer @TimothyWSchwab 2007 article related to U.S. Power Elite's "Media-Gates Scandal", that might contain so… https://t.co/6k17KuuyurAug 24 17:39
schestowitz"2007 article related to U.S. Power Elite's "Media-Gates Scandal", that might contain some additional historical info: "Aug 24 17:39
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/bobafeldman1/status/1297925956485742593Aug 24 17:40
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@bobafeldman1: @Linda1746 article from over 10 years ago on similar topic: https://t.co/ZP7WAeHQ5yAug 24 17:40
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/bobafeldman1/status/1297925704491970562Aug 24 17:40
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@bobafeldman1: @TimothyWSchwab 2007 article on similar topic on Techrights website that might contain additional info related to U… https://t.co/JB4RXmCxFpAug 24 17:40
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@bobafeldman1: @TimothyWSchwab 2007 article on similar topic on Techrights website that might contain additional info related to U… https://t.co/JB4RXmCxFpAug 24 17:40
schestowitz"2007 article on similar topic on Techrights website that might contain additional info related to U.S. Power Elite's "Media-Gates Scandal":"Aug 24 17:40
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/bobafeldman1/status/1297924969721204736Aug 24 17:40
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@bobafeldman1: @terror_toddler https://t.co/ZP7WAeHQ5y article from many years ago on similar topic:Aug 24 17:40
schestowitz"Aug 24 17:40
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2007/11/30/journalism-bias-microsoft/Aug 24 17:40
schestowitz  article from many years ago on similar topic:Aug 24 17:40
schestowitz"Aug 24 17:40
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | Today’s ‘Objective’ News, Brought to You by Microsoft Corporation | TechrightsAug 24 17:40
schestowitz>>> Yes, LibrePay was another to look at but I know nothing about it.Aug 24 17:49
schestowitz>>> Pateron is widely used already though.Aug 24 17:49
schestowitz>> Liam says we'd need to offer supporters something extra. What might thatAug 24 17:49
schestowitz>> be?Aug 24 17:49
schestowitz> Patreon offers tiers of support.  The different people using it offerAug 24 17:49
schestowitz> perks at the different levels.  I've looked up some samples:Aug 24 17:49
schestowitz>Aug 24 17:49
schestowitz> access to 3D scans of key artifactsAug 24 17:49
schestowitz> patreon-only updatesAug 24 17:49
schestowitz> read access insider blogAug 24 17:49
schestowitz> digital copies of draftsAug 24 17:49
schestowitz> name listed in creditsAug 24 17:49
schestowitz> signed copies of published worksAug 24 17:49
schestowitz> various degrees of gratitudeAug 24 17:49
schestowitz> access to insider vlogAug 24 17:49
schestowitz> advanced previews of minor worksAug 24 17:49
schestowitz> insider Discord (r) chat forumAug 24 17:49
schestowitz> 20% discount on merchandiseAug 24 17:49
schestowitz> join once-a-month live video chatAug 24 17:49
schestowitz> ISC-licenced codeAug 24 17:49
schestowitz> mallocAug 24 17:49
schestowitzWhat is malloc?Aug 24 17:49
schestowitzI can spare some server RAM if people want it ;-)Aug 24 17:49
schestowitz>>> Yes, LibrePay was another to look at but I know nothing about it.Aug 24 17:49
schestowitz>>> Pateron is widely used already though.Aug 24 17:49
schestowitz>> Rianne donated 60 pounds to an elephants (orphaned) fund today, asAug 24 17:49
schestowitz>> it's her birthday and that's what she wanted to doAug 24 17:49
schestowitz>>Aug 24 17:49
schestowitz>> They sell that as "buy milk" for the baby elephant of your choice.Aug 24 17:49
schestowitz>>Aug 24 17:49
schestowitz>>Aug 24 17:49
schestowitz> Happy Birthday to her!  I hope she gets at least part of the day offAug 24 17:49
schestowitz> from work.Aug 24 17:49
schestowitzShe typically works only Sat and Sun.Aug 24 17:49
schestowitz> (dlangs github is now read-only, MOVED to gcc, noted by our friend here)Aug 24 17:50
schestowitz>Aug 24 17:50
schestowitz> youre brilliant!Aug 24 17:50
schestowitz>Aug 24 17:50
schestowitz> this is the RIGHT way for github-based software to join the gnu project. not a lot of good news this year, but this counts! this counts.Aug 24 17:50
schestowitzWell done.Aug 24 17:50
schestowitzPerceptions are changing!Aug 24 17:50
schestowitzRe: when standards trump securityAug 24 17:51
schestowitz> not sure how relevant this is, but its amusing. from openbsd 6.1 vintage--Aug 24 17:51
schestowitz>Aug 24 17:51
schestowitz> * drm/driAug 24 17:51
schestowitz>  * code base is part of linux kernel source treeAug 24 17:51
schestowitz>   * bsd folks fork itAug 24 17:51
schestowitz>    * "code quality is about as big a shit sandwich as it is in linuxAug 24 17:51
schestowitz> drm/dri code baseAug 24 17:51
schestowitz>Aug 24 17:51
schestowitz> "all this linux code that we are importing... is not going to beAug 24 17:51
schestowitz> reviewed by any of the other openbsd kernel developers... beacuse theyAug 24 17:51
schestowitz> refuse to read any code that is not conformant to the bsd knf standard"Aug 24 17:51
schestowitz> -- matthieu herrbAug 24 17:51
schestowitz>Aug 24 17:51
schestowitz> researched is ilia van sprundel of ioactive, hes belgian.Aug 24 17:51
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Peterwyck29/status/1297551161222987777Aug 24 19:46
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Peterwyck29: @schestowitz Patent owners go to court to “defend” their rights. They r forced to do this because those companies u… https://t.co/I5henC48jcAug 24 19:46
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Peterwyck29: @schestowitz Patent owners go to court to “defend” their rights. They r forced to do this because those companies u… https://t.co/I5henC48jcAug 24 19:46
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