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schestowitz>> This is deliberate. I didn't chain several addresses to the latest key.Aug 25 03:27
schestowitz>> One receives the lion's share of spam. The other one is more private.Aug 25 03:27
schestowitz>>Aug 25 03:27
schestowitz> OK, if you want me to send to the other address, please send me the keyAug 25 03:27
schestowitz> for that address privately and I can use it insteadAug 25 03:28
schestowitz>Aug 25 03:28
schestowitz> I found some specific evidence that the Debian Account Managers lied inAug 25 03:28
schestowitz> relation to Appelbaum, it will be published later this week.  Do youAug 25 03:28
schestowitz> ever get messages from any of these people asking you to hide theseAug 25 03:28
schestowitz> blogs?  Other people told me there is a little cabal that spends allAug 25 03:28
schestowitz> their time sending out messages to conference organizers, IT press andAug 25 03:28
schestowitz> similar places to try and have my speeches or blogs or anything elseAug 25 03:28
schestowitz> removed.  Given it started around the time my father died, I regard thisAug 25 03:28
schestowitz> as harassment over the threshold of criminality.Aug 25 03:28
schestowitzOnly in IRC a former Debian dev said to me about one of your posts that it was not correct. Other than that, nobody pressured me to not link to that stuff in Techrights, Tux Machines etc. I guess they realise I'm not a 'soft target' for censorship.Aug 25 03:28
schestowitz'Cancel culture' is no picnic, but they're done that to me since BoycottNovell (2006). And I'm still around...Aug 25 03:28
schestowitzRegarding Appelbaum, you might want to reach out to him directly, though like RMS he prefers for people to just forget about the whole thing.Aug 25 03:28
schestowitzIf along the way you find more interesting material, pass it along for us to publish. I can always deny or refuse to say where that came from...Aug 25 03:28
schestowitzPublishing leaks is something we've been quite good at.Aug 25 03:28
schestowitzWe're quite resistant to this whole 'cancel' 'thing'... as people know what we stand for and we can handle the bullshit. We get lots of readers, so need not rely much on "social control media" or mainstream press.Aug 25 03:29
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/18847840#3a855f50c819013853a72a0000053625Aug 25 03:34
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@linux@joindiaspora.com: 10 Interesting and Useful Apps I Discovered in #Snap Store http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141290 #gnu #linuxAug 25 03:34
schestowitz"Aug 25 03:34
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.tuxmachines.org | 10 Interesting and Useful Apps I Discovered in Snap Store | Tux MachinesAug 25 03:34
schestowitzHormis les dépôts “normaux” de logiciels de chaque distribution, il y a trois systèmes de “packaging” à la macintosh, qui proposent pour chaque logiciel un “bloc” évitant toute dépendance ou conflit de version, au prix naturellement d’un encombrement plus important sur le disque puisque tout est “self-contained” : Appimage, Flatpak, et Snap.Aug 25 03:34
schestowitzChacun a ses avantages et inconvénients, notamment la “mise en bac à sable” d’une application a priori inconnue peut être plus ou moins importante, etc.Aug 25 03:34
schestowitzUn seul est abominable et à éviter à tout prix : Snap.Aug 25 03:34
schestowitzLa raison est simple : c’est Ubuntu qui le développe, et Ubuntu, distribution Debian, vient de décider d’effacer le mécanisme d’installation Debian à partir des dépôts, pour le remplacer par Snap, qui devient de facto le "magasin d’applications propriétaire d’Ubuntu.Aug 25 03:34
schestowitzCelui par lequel tout développeur sera obligé de passer (et au prochain stade, de payer), à la manière des magasins Apple ou Google.Aug 25 03:34
schestowitzJe suis fort heureusement sous Debian et pas Ubuntu, mais un tel mouvement est terrifiant : Ubuntu étant apparemment la distribution Linux la plus répandue, son propriétaire (privé, contrairement à Debian où la stratégie est votée), met selon moi en danger tout Linux, de manière bien plus grave que tous les virus et autres hacks dont il est à la mode de se plaindre (et que personne n’a jamais vu)Aug 25 03:34
schestowitzPour plus de détails on peut voir la description sur slashdotAug 25 03:34
schestowitzMichele SantulloAug 25 03:34
schestowitzMichele Santullo - about 17 hours agoAug 25 03:34
schestowitzwhat’s a snap store? what do apps have to do with the #gnu #linux tags? man, you should really abandon this twitter-style of posting, it’s not clear at allAug 25 03:34
schestowitzherve_02@diasp.orgAug 25 03:34
schestowitzherve_02@diasp.org - about 17 hours agoAug 25 03:34
schestowitzLe problème général est tout de même que l’on sort du paradigme du dépôt de la distribution qui est censé faire un rempart contre les développeurs avec de mauvaises intentions. Qui peut savoir ce qu’il y a dans un paquet ‘snap’ ou flatchose ou appmachin ?Aug 25 03:34
schestowitzEst-ce que ce n’est pas la même chose avec les truc à installer venant de telecharger.com et autres sites de distribution de malwares ?Aug 25 03:34
schestowitzCombien d’utilisateur de bonne foi vont installer la dernière version de gimp et se retrouver en machine zombifiée ?Aug 25 03:34
schestowitzMichele SantulloAug 25 03:34
schestowitzMichele Santullo - about 12 hours agoAug 25 03:34
schestowitzmerci pour clarifier, snapchat là j’ai vraiment jamais entendu… mais je suis encore confondu… le mec là il cause des applis, mais flatpack etc c’est bien des trucs pour desktop, non? ou ça existe sur android aussi maintenant? ou il parle d’une distro pour portable? c’est pour ça que je dis il est pas clair… à mon avis c’est un utilisateur twitter qui est migré vers diaspora sans vraiment s’adapterAug 25 03:34
schestowitz"Aug 25 03:34
schestowitzThe GNU and Linux tags are appropriate because in this case, even if those "apps" (blobs) are crap, they still are packaged for gnu/linux distrosAug 25 03:34
schestowitzhttps://news.slashdot.org/story/20/06/05/2148219/linux-mint-dumps-ubuntu-snap?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Slashdot%2Fslashdot+%28Slashdot%29Aug 25 03:35
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-news.slashdot.org | Linux Mint Dumps Ubuntu Snap - SlashdotAug 25 03:35
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/18847684#78451f20c81a013868290eb2d9fcdd39Aug 25 03:38
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@linux@joindiaspora.com: Glimpse – A Fork of the GIMP http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141286Aug 25 03:38
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.tuxmachines.org | Glimpse – A Fork of the GIMP | Tux MachinesAug 25 03:38
schestowitz"did they get forked? when? why? what's the fork going for it? is the main project not going well?"Aug 25 03:38
schestowitzSomeone did not like the name. A gay activist.Aug 25 03:39
schestowitz> That was two years ago.  ;-)Aug 25 03:40
schestowitzOur campaign and body of evidence of why to DeleteGithub  are stronger now. More reasons...Aug 25 03:40
schestowitz> We (you?) should make a big deal out of this.Aug 25 03:41
schestowitzI don't know enough about this person, except  she only emerged in the public eye less than a decade ago and rose to fame/power quickly. Which is a complaint I heard too... from females.Aug 25 03:41
schestowitz> im now told that there is still a "separate" version of d developedAug 25 03:42
schestowitz> presumably on gh.Aug 25 03:42
schestowitz>Aug 25 03:42
schestowitz> if thats true, its not separate-- theyre still developing partly on gh.Aug 25 03:42
schestowitz> its not like they wont cross over. so all that excitement was overAug 25 03:42
schestowitz> nothing, its bullshit actually. in the future ill take suchAug 25 03:42
schestowitz> proclamations with a grain of salt. i went to the page, it said readAug 25 03:42
schestowitz> only archived- that was true-- hooray!Aug 25 03:43
schestowitz>Aug 25 03:43
schestowitz> then hes like "they still have a separate..."Aug 25 03:43
schestowitz>Aug 25 03:43
schestowitz> WHAT? WHERE?Aug 25 03:43
schestowitz>Aug 25 03:43
schestowitz> glad he didnt me that before-- wtf?Aug 25 03:43
schestowitz(still a problem)Aug 25 03:43
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/TT10NDD/status/1298021193845477381Aug 25 03:51
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@TT10NDD: @RBrandmayr @MichaelCoudrey @JuliansRum The evidence seems to be leading there. https://t.co/DiHBGK3yBIAug 25 03:51
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes- ( status 500 @ https://techrights.org/2020/04/20/rick-allen-jones-finer-details/ )Aug 25 03:51
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Charlotte3003G/status/1297920051740278784Aug 25 03:51
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Charlotte3003G: This!! 😂😂 https://t.co/9nXmZ4Yx5MAug 25 03:51
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@js100js100: https://t.co/mxFNFKBzf3Aug 25 03:51
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/PaulmichaelODo1/status/1298064643676680193Aug 25 03:52
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@PaulmichaelODo1: Bill Gates articles of interest https://t.co/G8bbn2ErXG & https://t.co/c2Y96GQPsQ & https://t.co/Hsmie7yK31 &… https://t.co/3CVsRInBkXAug 25 03:52
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes- ( status 500 @ https://techrights.org/2020/08/16/bill-gates-jeffrey-epstein-and-rick-allen-jones/ )Aug 25 03:52
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes- ( status 500 @ https://techrights.org/2020/05/27/joi-ito-email/ )Aug 25 03:52
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes- ( status 500 @ https://techrights.org/2019/10/15/bill-gates-propaganda-machine/ )Aug 25 03:52
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@PaulmichaelODo1: Bill Gates articles of interest https://t.co/G8bbn2ErXG & https://t.co/c2Y96GQPsQ & https://t.co/Hsmie7yK31 &… https://t.co/3CVsRInBkXAug 25 03:52
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/PaulmichaelODo1/status/1298067981298270210Aug 25 03:52
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@PaulmichaelODo1: it is now obvious that bill gates had deep connections with jeffery epstein, question did bill gates provide technical support for epsteinAug 25 03:52
schestowitz"it is now obvious that bill gates had deep connections with jeffery epstein, question did bill gates provide technical support for epstein"Aug 25 03:52
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/chierotti/status/1294032239563612161Aug 25 03:56
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@chierotti: RT: Laravel for Programming (New Series) https://t.co/I5x32r6CDk — Tux Machines (@tuxmachines) August 13, 2020Aug 25 03:56
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-Failed connect to www.tuxmachines.org:443; Connection refused ( status 0 @ https://www.tuxmachines.org/node/140930 )Aug 25 03:56
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/LinspireLinux/status/1293425808057536512Aug 25 03:56
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@LinspireLinux: Today the Linspire team is proud to release Linspire 9.0 https://t.co/u3yxH5tW8H @rjdohnert @akai11nj @tuxmachines… https://t.co/CcvTBa6L9xAug 25 03:56
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.linspirelinux.com | Linspire - The easiest Desktop Linux: Linspire 9.0 ReleasedAug 25 03:56
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@LinspireLinux: Today the Linspire team is proud to release Linspire 9.0 https://t.co/u3yxH5tW8H @rjdohnert @akai11nj @tuxmachines… https://t.co/CcvTBa6L9xAug 25 03:56
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