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| schestowitz[TR2] | " I will remember Dan bringing a smile to every conversation, no matter how challenging. He was kind and compassionate. I have often thought how Dan would approach a situation I was struggling to bring a positive light to. I will miss him, and I'll try to bring a few more smiles in his honor." | Jul 26 15:15 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | " For the complete picture Dan mentioned to me in a message unfortunately not on lore.kernel.org that he worked on the Intel XScale IXP4xx StrongARM-based embedded network processors as well, probably in the early 2000s. I think he worked both on the Microcode for the embedded Network Processing Engine and the corresponding Ethernet driver." | Jul 26 15:16 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | "The fight over AI coding, in Open Source, continues to escalate. | Jul 26 17:11 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | On the one side, some of the largest Linux corporations and foundations are heavily promoting AI "vibe coding": | Jul 26 17:11 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | - The Linux Foundation: Working with Anthropic, encouraging kernel developers to use AI. | Jul 26 17:11 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | - Red Hat / IBM: Tying employee pay to how much they use AI (or add AI to open source projects). | Jul 26 17:11 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | - Microsoft / GitHub: AI everything. All the time. (And they sit on the Linux Foundation board.) | Jul 26 17:11 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | On the other side, noteworthy Open Source projects and organizations are opposing AI usage: | Jul 26 17:11 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | - Flathub, Codeberg, Zig, NetBSD, QEMU, Gentoo, Debian (and many others) have some form of "AI Ban" either already in place or being voted on. | Jul 26 17:11 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | This conflict is ramping up. | Jul 26 17:11 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | As one side increases usage and promotion of AI... the other side responds by adding new "AI Bans". | Jul 26 17:11 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | "AI Bans" which are difficult (if not practically impossible) to effectively enforce. Especially with the significant amount of AI generated code in the Linux kernel." | Jul 26 17:11 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | "If you have a long-standing, well tested, critical piece of software… replacing that software with something “new and shiny” is, 99% of the time, a terrible idea. | Jul 26 17:12 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | The problems with replacing that “old” software are significant, including (but not, by any means, limited to): | Jul 26 17:12 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | - The loss of (often) decades worth of “edge cases” being handled in the existing code. | Jul 26 17:12 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | - Unforeseen compatibility issues (with hardware, other reliant software, etc.). | Jul 26 17:12 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | - The creation of new bugs (because we have new code), at the same time as the loss of old fixes (because we tossed out the existing code). | Jul 26 17:12 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Replacing “legacy” code with something “new and shiny” is a common mistake, often proposed by engineers with limited, real world experience (lass than a decade)… or by management with limited understanding of engineering. | Jul 26 17:12 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Here, @BrianRoemmele | Jul 26 17:12 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | is talking about attempts to replace several decades old COBOL systems with something “new and shiny” backfiring (in a big way). Including performance issues. | Jul 26 17:12 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | This same exact mistake happens in every major project. | Jul 26 17:12 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Repeated over and over again by inexperienced engineers, and managers, who think they understand computer programming better than the old developers who built the foundation they are now standing upon. | Jul 26 17:12 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | A great example is the current rush to replace battle tested, decades old, critical C code (sudo, coreutils, etc.) with Rust clones. | Jul 26 17:12 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Same basic engineering mistake. | Jul 26 17:12 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | And our computer systems are buggier because of it. | Jul 26 17:12 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | "Another option presented in the “LLM usage in Debian” General Resolution vote… is to allow AI / LLM contributions to Debian… but with some curious requirements. | Jul 26 17:30 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Notably, that the AI generated code (etc.), submitted to Debian, must be verified for legality, licensing, and attribution. | Jul 26 17:30 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | This is a fascinating inclusion, as this language would effectively prohibit ~100% of all AI generated code from being used in Debian (as the primary LLM systems are trained on code of widely variable licensing and copyright, without any means to effectively verify that information). | Jul 26 17:30 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | So it’s a vote to include AI… which would exclude AI. | Jul 26 17:30 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1kyczappy | Jul 26 17:38 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | " | Jul 26 17:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Did you know, 73% of IBMers who were placed on a PIP from 2023 to today successfully accomplished their PIP and continued to grow at IBM. | Jul 26 17:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | How is IBM able to maintain such a consistent track record - This would also mean for every 4 people who get assigned a PIP, only 1 would fail and be terminated. With the increase in number of PIPs that are being assigned to avoid WARN notice and save on the severance packages, the number of employees who continue to grow at IBM should also increase. Is that happening? | Jul 26 17:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | " | Jul 26 17:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | " | Jul 26 17:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | This is how it works in software: Managers have to mark 15% of their teams as low performers, with an exit target of 5%, this means that 67% will pass the pip and 33 will fail. This is simply a way to layoff 5% of the workforce disguised as performance management. Most ppl end unfairly on these list because the percentages are not negotiable, the ones to be saved will pass the pip, the ones to be sacked will be terminated regardles | Jul 26 17:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | s of the actual outcome (managers can use any excuse to fail them), so the 73% is simply by design not a proof that PIPs work. | Jul 26 17:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 35 minutes ago by Anonymous | Jul 26 17:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 3 reactions (+3/-0) | Reply | Jul 26 17:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @ej+1kyczappy | Jul 26 17:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | +5 | Jul 26 17:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Totally false... PIP = layoff | Jul 26 17:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 2 hours ago by Anonymous | Jul 26 17:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 5 reactions (+5/-0) | Reply | Jul 26 17:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @e6+1kyczappy | Jul 26 17:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | +4 | Jul 26 17:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | If get piped you are marked. Doesn’t matter what you do. Best to plan you exit stat | Jul 26 17:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 3 hours ago by Anonymous | Jul 26 17:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 4 reactions (+4/-0) | Reply | Jul 26 17:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @e0+1kyczappy | Jul 26 17:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | +3 | Jul 26 17:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | So do yoi think it’s no coincidence team members suddenly got PIPs a week or so after the stock crash? Surprise pips no prior issues? Is it pointless to try to recover internally at the company at this point? I doesn’t seem like good faulty attempts to growth, more like convenient attempts at stealth layoffs to cut budgets? Don’t mean to be naive this is just first time I’ve seen this happening on our team. RAs in past year | Jul 26 17:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | s. | Jul 26 17:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 4 hours ago by Anonymous | Jul 26 17:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 3 reactions (+3/-0) | Reply | Jul 26 17:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @dr+1kyczappy | Jul 26 17:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | +13 | Jul 26 17:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Let me start by stating the obvious: do NOT get su-kered into IBM propaganda. It has one purpose - make you work more for less money until IBM find you to be an inconvenience. | Jul 26 17:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | With that in mind, key thing about that BS PIP statement (assume it's even true) is that its from 2023. | Jul 26 17:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | That is when IBM consulting started 'bench PIP' in full swing. Those who is not familiar, it is generally when your utilization dips below certain percentage (e.g., 75%) of your year end target. | Jul 26 17:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Obvious problem is that a consultant not a project is mostly due to Partners (or IBM exec) inability to sell enough work. Because IBM consulting has been shrinking, PIP is used to remove 'excess capacity' (or consultants) without paying respectable severance. Because of such BS, the people around the consultants who get PIPed staffs them first. | Jul 26 17:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | In other word, most of that BS 73% PIP should not even be in PIP in the first place. | Jul 26 17:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Don't get fooled by IBM's branding or history. It is an amoral company that will maximize the benefit for its executives at the expense of its employees every day of the week (e.g., no 401k match). With the Q2 sh-t show, Arvind and its board don't seem to care much about shareholder either. | Jul 26 17:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 18 hours ago by Anonymous | Jul 26 17:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 13 reactions (+13/-0) | Reply | Jul 26 17:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @b8+1kyczappy | Jul 26 17:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | +7 | Jul 26 17:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | @am when will McKinsey jobs go abroad or to AI | Jul 26 17:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 20 hours ago by Anonymous | Jul 26 17:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 7 reactions (+7/-0) | Reply | Jul 26 17:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @aw+1kyczappy | Jul 26 17:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | +10 | Jul 26 17:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | @aj what a ridiculous question ! You can bet that once the 3 US jobs have gone to India and assigned to 10 Indians, those jobs are not coming back to the US. If those jobs are likely to shift to AI, Arvind and his crooks in IBM India HR will cook up some BS story to ensure that the Indians retain their jobs. It's a job protection scheme they have there. | Jul 26 17:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | A pity that the US Dept Of Labor doesn't have any such protections to Americans losing their jobs to these unfair and potentially illegal job transfer practices. Blame McKinsey as well for this state of things (globalization garbage). | Jul 26 17:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 21 hours ago by Anonymous | Jul 26 17:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 10 reactions (+10/-0) | Reply | Jul 26 17:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @am+1kyczappy | Jul 26 17:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | -9 | Jul 26 17:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | @ag : is there an assurance that none of these 10 offshore employees would be piped out in next 6 months? | Jul 26 17:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 21 hours ago by Anonymous | Jul 26 17:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 11 reactions (+1/-10) | Reply | Jul 26 17:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @aj+1kyczappy | Jul 26 17:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | +11 | Jul 26 17:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Recently, 3 decent developers from the team I lead have been put on PIP by the useless POS manager without consulting my opinion. After a month, they were fired, again without my knowledge. I am offered 10 Indians immediately instead of the 3 US based employees, I need to train them. Management is agreeing to a 6 month delay in solution delivery, as long as, we agree to train an Indian army of "engineers". | Jul 26 17:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 22 hours ago by Anonymous | Jul 26 17:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 11 reactions (+11/-0) | Reply | Jul 26 17:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @ag+1kyczappy | Jul 26 17:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | +14 | Jul 26 17:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | @OP The PIP is just a way to show you the door at IBM. I knew at least 8 folks who were put on PIPS in various divisions in the past 15 years. If you pass the PIP, then IBM management simply looks for another way to get rid of you - and voila, the layoff happens to you. There is no escape from IBM management brutality. Once they have your ID number, the management is relentless is cutting you down and out. A pity that they don't di | Jul 26 17:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | splay the same level of competence when it comes to producing superior business results. Arvind comes to mind as one such incompetent manager and you just have to see the Q2 2026 results to know how much he is out of touch with reality. Maybe he should be put on a PIP by the IBM board of trustees and it would be well deserved punishment for his failures. | Jul 26 17:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | That quoted 73% pass rate is a fake number - it might have been from 20 years ago, not recently (in the past 3 years). | Jul 26 17:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 22 hours ago by Anonymous | Jul 26 17:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 14 reactions (+14/-0) | Reply | Jul 26 17:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @ac+1kyczappy | Jul 26 17:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | +5 | Jul 26 17:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I always wondered how we calculate this? Do we count people who leave? Do they count people were laid off? | Jul 26 17:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | " | Jul 26 17:38 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1kycdkzhr | Jul 26 17:40 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | "you su-k! | Jul 26 17:40 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 1 hour ago by Anonymous | Jul 26 17:40 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 3 reactions (+2/-1) | Reply | Jul 26 17:40 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @fd+1kycdkzhr | Jul 26 17:40 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | @bh the reason partners are used has nothing to do with skill. IBM doesnt want to hire more people and partners get the work. | Jul 26 17:40 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 1 hour ago by Anonymous | Jul 26 17:40 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 2 reactions (+1/-1) | Reply | Jul 26 17:40 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @fa+1kycdkzhr | Jul 26 17:40 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | -2 | Jul 26 17:40 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | @cs you should leave. | Jul 26 17:40 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 2 hours ago by Anonymous | Jul 26 17:40 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 2 reactions (+0/-2) | Reply | Jul 26 17:40 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @f9+1kycdkzhr | Jul 26 17:40 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | +2 | Jul 26 17:40 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | @bd can you point to any success that they have had? Not the bullsh-t hype they tell us - actual ROI that justifies their existence? Actual money they generated (revenue) for IBM? | Jul 26 17:40 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 15 hours ago by Anonymous | Jul 26 17:40 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 4 reactions (+3/-1) | Reply | Jul 26 17:40 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @cs+1kycdkzhr | Jul 26 17:40 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | -1 | Jul 26 17:40 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | TEL is missing deep expertise at scale that is worth their day rates, so they involve partners to do the expert work. | Jul 26 17:40 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | So why not go directly to the partners and save the markup… | Jul 26 17:40 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 22 hours ago by Anonymous | Jul 26 17:40 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 5 reactions (+2/-3) | Reply | Jul 26 17:40 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @bh+1kycdkzhr | Jul 26 17:40 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | +4 | Jul 26 17:40 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | @bd I hate all of IBM, including Expert Labs and Tech Sales. | Jul 26 17:40 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 22 hours ago by Anonymous | Jul 26 17:40 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 6 reactions (+5/-1) | Reply | Jul 26 17:40 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @bf+1kycdkzhr | Jul 26 17:40 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | -2 | Jul 26 17:40 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | So, just curious here... only negative comments... What org/dept are you guys in to hate Expert Labs so much? And for the record, I am not in Expert Labs, I am in Tech Sales. | Jul 26 17:40 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 22 hours ago by Anonymous | Jul 26 17:40 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 6 reactions (+2/-4) | Reply | Jul 26 17:40 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @bd+1kycdkzhr | Jul 26 17:40 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | +4 | Jul 26 17:40 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | @aj They are Experts In Bullshi--ing ! | Jul 26 17:40 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | But the clients have started to get wise about them, and stopped using them. | Jul 26 17:40 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 22 hours ago by Anonymous | Jul 26 17:40 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 4 reactions (+4/-0) | Reply | Jul 26 17:40 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @bc+1kycdkzhr | Jul 26 17:40 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | +4 | Jul 26 17:40 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | @as : ouch....it must be a painful realization that they can't use gen ai to generate a revenue paying client | Jul 26 17:40 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 1 day ago by Anonymous | Jul 26 17:40 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 4 reactions (+4/-0) | Reply | Jul 26 17:40 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @ay+1kycdkzhr | Jul 26 17:40 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | +4 | Jul 26 17:40 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | @aj They are in fact the world's leading experts in PPGT (PowerPoint Generation Technology). | Jul 26 17:40 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | " | Jul 26 17:40 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1kyd1abg2 | Jul 26 17:46 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | " | Jul 26 17:46 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Correct, bonus was paid, and he was higher than usual for most. No pay raises though for most. | Jul 26 17:46 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 6 hours ago by Anonymous | Jul 26 17:46 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | They had bonuses this year for most | Jul 26 17:46 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 22 hours ago by Anonymous | Jul 26 17:46 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 4 reactions (+2/-2) | Reply | Jul 26 17:46 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @ab+1kyd1abg2 | Jul 26 17:46 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | +3 | Jul 26 17:46 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | "IBM’s board faced an uncomfortable decision after learning that the company’s second quarter had fallen well short of expectations." | Jul 26 17:46 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | It is common knowledge that there would be no bonus or increments for IBM employees in 2026. When company does not make money, it is unable to offer any incentives to the employees. So it was already known to the IBM board that they are not making any money. Nothing new that they learned, but it is actually the market that made an uncomfortable decision after learning that the company’s second quarter had fallen well short of exp | Jul 26 17:46 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | ectations. | Jul 26 17:46 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | And how does the market react after learning that operating earnings of $2.93 per share is below the expectation of $3.02 per share. That is a shortfall of about 3% but it resulted in actual decline of 25% of the stock value i.e. almost 8 times. That is astonishing and speaks volumes about how over leveraged this company really is. | Jul 26 17:46 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | " | Jul 26 17:46 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1ky9cgv4m | Jul 26 17:46 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | " | Jul 26 17:46 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | First of many stated tuned | Jul 26 17:46 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 13 hours ago by Anonymous | Jul 26 17:46 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @jb+1ky9cgv4m | Jul 26 17:46 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | +1 | Jul 26 17:46 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Wait. As per the post Starbucks spends 400 million a year on software and AK mentions multiple times in multiple interviews that the Starbucks contract to IBM is only 2 million a year? That seems pretty low. I wonder if it’s only 2 million… | Jul 26 17:46 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 20 hours ago by Anonymous | Jul 26 17:46 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | Bob won't be selling coffee anymore at Starbucks...hmmmmmn | Jul 26 17:46 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 23 hours ago by Anonymous | Jul 26 17:46 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | +8 | Jul 26 17:46 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | @OP Yeah, why do you need to use IBM and Microsoft for an expensive solution ? Both are run by CEOs who are looking more incompetent with every passing day. | Jul 26 17:46 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | And these CEOs have one thing in common - both originate from the same country where corruption is a way of life. Particularly true in the way IBM is run and managed. | Jul 26 17:46 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | <admfubar> just caught your aquarium equipment search, have you checked your local clubs? they may have a swap/flea market type event to raise money for their group, if not i'm sure that they can put you in touch with members that have surplus to sell. (not sure if that was the gist of your article) | Jul 26 21:13 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | <schestowitz[TR2]> that is where i went | Jul 26 21:13 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | <schestowitz[TR2]> sort of | Jul 26 21:13 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | <admfubar> sort of? | Jul 26 22:24 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | <schestowitz[TR2]> yes | Jul 26 22:24 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | <schestowitz[TR2]> sunday | Jul 26 22:24 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | <schestowitz[TR2]> sunday market | Jul 26 22:24 |
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