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| schestowitz[TR2] | https://www.makeuseof.com/not-buying-that-linux-is-better-than-windows/ September Layoff Confirmed - Performance Based" | Aug 26 03:13 |
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| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.makeuseof.com | Everyone Says Linux Is Better Than Windows, but I'm Not Buying It | Aug 26 03:13 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1k3bewn6e | Aug 26 03:13 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | "" I was in Power sales 4 years. There is NO WAY THEY SPENT BILLIONS on Power11. That is WAY over stated. The response to P11 will be exactly as it was for P7/8/9/10. But this time IBM is ALL IN on PowerVS and really no longer wants or cares about on prem P10/P11 sales. If IBM does not move the needle with PowerVS sales AND SAP RISE on Power-cloud, P12 if it even comes out will be the last. Arvind and Robbie Thomas etc think Power | Aug 26 03:13 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | is IBM power supplies for the pathetic watsonx." | Aug 26 03:13 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1k3gvfb56 | Aug 26 03:25 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes- ( status 403 @ https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1k3gvfb56 ) | Aug 26 03:25 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | "The "everything else" mainly consists of stuff that IBM has acquired over the last 10-15 years and not invested in. Also things like watsonx which are really just a UI (that looks like it was created by an intern) sitting on top of other people's stuff. Z and legacy SW has a decent install base at banks, insurance companies, telcos, and government agencies. It's not growing and they haven't acquired a new logo in forever, but it's | Aug 26 03:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | something they can milk and the government won't let it go under. | Aug 26 03:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 6 hours ago by Anonymous | Aug 26 03:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 1 reaction (+1/-0) | Reply | Aug 26 03:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @b0+1k3gvfb56 | Aug 26 03:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | +1 | Aug 26 03:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | @ac I agree with your bullet points, but let me ask you a question: Keeping Z and disposing of everything else leaves IBM with 1960s-era technology that has been incrementally updated through the years. The "everything else" consists of just about every meaningful technology that has been invented over the last 40+ years. | Aug 26 03:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Do you really think Z plus the other stuff you mentioned will be enough to sustain IBM? DB2 can be replaced...one would think that big customers are already planning for replacements to IMS, CICS and TPF. | Aug 26 03:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 6 hours ago by Anonymous | Aug 26 03:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 1 reaction (+1/-0) | Reply | Aug 26 03:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @az+1k3gvfb56 | Aug 26 03:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | +2 | Aug 26 03:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Can anyone name a single executive currently at IBM who could even remotely be considered brilliant? I know there are some brilliant people working in the trenches at IBM. | Aug 26 03:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 6 hours ago by Anonymous | Aug 26 03:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 2 reactions (+2/-0) | Reply | Aug 26 03:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @ay+1k3gvfb56 | Aug 26 03:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | +2 | Aug 26 03:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I have 77 chevy van to trade for IBM cloud | Aug 26 03:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 8 hours ago by Anonymous | Aug 26 03:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 2 reactions (+2/-0) | Reply | Aug 26 03:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @am+1k3gvfb56 | Aug 26 03:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | +4 | Aug 26 03:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Consulting will get spun off, like GTS into Kyndryl. | Aug 26 03:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Power and Storage will get turned into an IP play, where third parties build it, sell it, and support it 100% and IBM just gets paid a license/royalty fee. | Aug 26 03:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Most of SW not related to Z/RH will get sold like Lotus got sold to HCL. | Aug 26 03:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | TLS for non-IBM products will be sold. | Aug 26 03:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Research will be reduced by 90% and AI and Quantum abandoned. | Aug 26 03:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | What's left of IBM in 5 years will be Z + IMS/CICS/TPF + DB2 + WAS + whatever they call MQ these days + Red Hat + Hashi + a scaled down TLS to support the above. | Aug 26 03:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 9 hours ago by Anonymous | Aug 26 03:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 4 reactions (+4/-0) | Reply | Aug 26 03:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @ac+1k3gvfb56 | Aug 26 03:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | +2 | Aug 26 03:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | @a6 | Aug 26 03:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 34 Billion acquisition managed by AK himself, and IBM is losing the Cloud battle. | Aug 26 03:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | AK continues to be the Chief Embarrassment Officer. Going into 5 years, plus all the years prior filled with promotions and so called "Cloud leadership". | Aug 26 03:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Mic Drop Moment (I believe...) | Aug 26 03:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 10 hours ago by Anonymous | Aug 26 03:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 6 reactions (+4/-2) | Reply | Aug 26 03:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @a8+1k3gvfb56 | Aug 26 03:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | +4 | Aug 26 03:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | @a4 | Aug 26 03:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Understood, and thank you for the clarification, sir. AND that is precisely why these so called "CEOs" get the big bucks, right? They are "supposed to know". | Aug 26 03:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Instead, they are mediocre bureaucrats that play politics. In other words, they pay lip service for the people upstairs, while disregarding, not knowing how to manage or help people (the doers) execute downstairs. Innovations is neutralized. | Aug 26 03:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | These mediocre bureaucrats feel actually threatened by talent, so they surround themselves with more like their (lack of) quality. | Aug 26 03:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 10 hours ago by Anonymous | Aug 26 03:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 4 reactions (+4/-0) | Reply | Aug 26 03:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @a7+1k3gvfb56 | Aug 26 03:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | +4 | Aug 26 03:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Who the Eff would buy IBM and pay a bloated premium? | Aug 26 03:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | That would be worse than Paying 34 billion for Red Hat | Aug 26 03:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 10 hours ago by Anonymous | Aug 26 03:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 4 reactions (+4/-0) | Reply | Aug 26 03:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @a6+1k3gvfb56 | Aug 26 03:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | +4 | Aug 26 03:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Misspoke, worker bees were brilliant but execs were not. Agreed you cannot have brilliant execs who miss the marketplace and have flawed strategies or who fail to execute strategies that might have had a chance due to inability to execute because of culture and bureaucracy | Aug 26 03:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 10 hours ago by Anonymous | Aug 26 03:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 4 reactions (+4/-0) | Reply | Aug 26 03:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @a4+1k3gvfb56 | Aug 26 03:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | +3 | Aug 26 03:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | @OP | Aug 26 03:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | "... some brilliant people that had strategic plans that failed to pivot in time for the way the marketplace was going." | Aug 26 03:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | There is not such thing as "brilliant strategic plans " that "failed to pivot in time for the way the marketplace was going". | Aug 26 03:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | It's an oxymoron, brilliant plans ether pivot in time for the way the marketplace is going or they create a market segment or niche successfully. | Aug 26 03:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | You can't say, "I took 3 years of my life to create the perfect pineapple pizza" and then people either stop wanting pineapple on the pizza, there was no market or the market wasn't big enough. So you wasted your time with some "brilliant idea" that wasn't brilliant after all, because you misread the market. | Aug 26 03:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | " | Aug 26 03:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | "" | Aug 26 03:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | When IBM will be acquired | Aug 26 03:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | IBM will likely be sold off in pieces and what’s left, acquired, much like Digital Equipment Corporation and Sun Microsystems. Two once great companies with some brilliant people that had strategic plans that failed to pivot in time for the way the marketplace was going. I loved working for DEC, until we started losing money. | Aug 26 03:25 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1k3h9725f | Aug 26 03:26 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | " | Aug 26 03:27 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | You will be fired | Aug 26 03:27 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | If you’re not very actively looking you’re being a fool. They are going to find every conceivable way to push you out. Questioning your scope, doubting the need for headcount, pretending to not understand functions that have existed for years and are crucial - all to hit a stock price. Opps exists solely to destroy as many lives as possible. HR is just legal cover so they can pretend there’s a “peocess.” There will be dev | Aug 26 03:27 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | astating layoffs in September, followed by nonsense where they choose 15% people they don’t think are cool enough (because IBM is basically a mean girl club in a jr high school) to not get bonuses hoping for attrition,, followed by more debanding - hoping for attrition, followed by a five day workweek hoping for attrition, followed by another round of devastating layoffs - which probably just barely gets us to next summer. “Ope | Aug 26 03:27 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | rations people” at IBM are subhuman filth who only care about hurting as many of you as possible. Protect yourself. Protect your children. Get out. That has to be your full time job. Just get out. | Aug 26 03:27 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | That's an option. | Aug 26 03:27 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | It depends on the person, it's an individual decision, my aunt left early (55), after 3 decades with IBM. Best decision she's ever made. | Aug 26 03:27 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 5 hours ago by Anonymous | Aug 26 03:27 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 5 reactions (+5/-0) | Reply | Aug 26 03:27 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @af+1k3h9725f | Aug 26 03:27 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | +3 | Aug 26 03:27 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Actually, if you're close (enough) to retirement and have a nice nest egg, like I did, fu-k it. Slack off, do the bare minimum, don't give a damn, start your own office supplies surplus at home. At some level you know everything at IBM is bullsh-t. And who knows, you might even get promoted. | Aug 26 03:27 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 5 hours ago by Anonymous | Aug 26 03:27 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 3 reactions (+3/-0) | Reply | Aug 26 03:27 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @ad+1k3h9725f | Aug 26 03:27 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | +4 | Aug 26 03:27 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | What would it take to force unionization? I’m sorry for America, but in Europe most of my white collar colleagues in tech and other fields are unionized. This is absurd. | Aug 26 03:27 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 6 hours ago by Anonymous | Aug 26 03:27 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 4 reactions (+4/-0) | Reply | Aug 26 03:27 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @a8+1k3h9725f | Aug 26 03:27 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | +8 | Aug 26 03:27 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | @OP | Aug 26 03:27 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Does your warning include the Senior VP and VP sc-m in the F&A CIO mob who are total filth ? | Aug 26 03:27 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | " | Aug 26 03:27 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes- ( status 403 @ https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1k3h9725f ) | Aug 26 03:28 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1k3gg38nt | Aug 26 03:29 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes- ( status 403 @ https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1k3gg38nt ) | Aug 26 03:29 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | " | Aug 26 03:30 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Will impressive revenue growth ever happen | Aug 26 03:30 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | When will IBM get achieve a healthy revenue growth rate? It has been many years since we have had consistent impressive revenue growth. It seems executives are focused on cost cutting and acquisitions to achieve profitability and meager revenue growth. | Aug 26 03:30 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | " | Aug 26 03:30 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | " | Aug 26 03:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Kavenbroth's impressive girth growth is brought on by the fact that he is a total glutton (you cannot fat-shame this loser), he is not upskilling enough with Rob the Slob. | Aug 26 03:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 3 hours ago by Anonymous | Aug 26 03:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 2 reactions (+2/-0) | Reply | Aug 26 03:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @c5+1k3gg38nt | Aug 26 03:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | +4 | Aug 26 03:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | @aj | Aug 26 03:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | If RT takes the helm that's definitely the end of IBM. The optics alone would scare off investors. Ever hear the story of how RT gave a "talk" at some conference and then got on a bicycle, rode down the aisle and out of the hall? Like some eccentric genius. He's no eccentric genius. He's a co-k su-ka! | Aug 26 03:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 7 hours ago by Anonymous | Aug 26 03:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 4 reactions (+4/-0) | Reply | Aug 26 03:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @bd+1k3gg38nt | Aug 26 03:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | +8 | Aug 26 03:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | @ak | Aug 26 03:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | The breakup already stated with Gin_ni and Tonic. | Aug 26 03:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | She destroyed innovation, she destroyed revenue, she destroyed the brand, she destroyed cash flow, she destroyed with M&As that either didn't work or she didn't know how to manage, and so it goes. | Aug 26 03:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | AK is the perfect "King of Mediocre Moh Ron" Stew P_e D Chief Embarrassment Officer that can follow such a Gin_ni and Tonic class act. | Aug 26 03:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Once you start promoting mediocre, it's like a snowball effect, doesn't stop and more mediocre follows. | Aug 26 03:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 11 hours ago by Anonymous | Aug 26 03:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 10 reactions (+9/-1) | Reply | Aug 26 03:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @an+1k3gg38nt | Aug 26 03:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | +4 | Aug 26 03:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | you ibmers... always looking for strategic growth. why can't you all just be impressed with kavenbroth's impressive girth growth? | Aug 26 03:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 11 hours ago by Anonymous | Aug 26 03:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 4 reactions (+4/-0) | Reply | Aug 26 03:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @am+1k3gg38nt | Aug 26 03:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | +6 | Aug 26 03:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | @aj | Aug 26 03:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | why 2-3 years down the road ? He could start the IBM breakup in year 1, and still have ample time to upskill Krabanaugh. | Aug 26 03:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 11 hours ago by Anonymous | Aug 26 03:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 6 reactions (+6/-0) | Reply | Aug 26 03:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @ak+1k3gg38nt | Aug 26 03:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | +8 | Aug 26 03:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Either way, AK will announce his retirement within the next 6 months and will be replaced by RT. RT will be even worse and will oversee the breakup of IBM 2-3 years down the road. | Aug 26 03:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 12 hours ago by Anonymous | Aug 26 03:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 8 reactions (+8/-0) | Reply | Aug 26 03:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @aj+1k3gg38nt | Aug 26 03:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | +6 | Aug 26 03:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | IBM is in deep trouble. It no longer makes anything so there is no innovation so there is no revenue growth. Arvind only cares about 2 things: 1. FCF free cash flow that he was told would drive 2. stock price. It is so much easier to cut costs (gut the US and move offshore to low cost countries and get what you pay for) than to grow revenues. And IBM's goto tool for revenue growth going back to the G Man Gerstner (Lotus $3.5B) is t | Aug 26 03:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | o buy software companies. IBM's Consulting has been gutted by RAs and many are saying consulting is dead now with AI doing in 30 minutes what used to take 10 consultants to come up with in a month. IBM's 3 pillars of 1. Infrastructure (got gutted by x86 for on prem and now AWS/Azure/Google for cloud) is lost at sea with no life preserver. 2. Consulting, never great, over priced, will be gutted by AI. 3. Software just a run rate ren | Aug 26 03:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | ewal business as there are very few net new IBM software installs. | Aug 26 03:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | What I think will happen is what happened to CA Computer Associates once a software high flyer founded in 1976 by Charles Wang. It bought and sold sw co's for decades by flamed out and was bought by Broadcom (also bought VMware and is gutting it) for $19B in 2018. | Aug 26 03:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | It is a very ugly picture and has been "mis managed" by arrogant and incompetent people who were promoted to levels way over their heads for 3 decades. | Aug 26 03:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 12 hours ago by Anonymous | Aug 26 03:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 6 reactions (+6/-0) | Reply | Aug 26 03:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @ad+1k3gg38nt | Aug 26 03:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | +10 | Aug 26 03:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | @OP | Aug 26 03:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Like many have said here, Q3 results-Q4 projections will determine AK's "tenure" and the trajectory that IBM will take. | Aug 26 03:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | If AK stays beyond Q3, the answer is, no hope. If he's replaced, the answer is "it depends (who comes next)". Based on the very poor choices (and I will talk about what I know, Ginni and AK), IBM is very doomed. It will be like Intel 2.0 | Aug 26 03:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Ginni was perhaps the worst CEO of her "generation". AK is competing with AT&T's CEO as the very worst. Both of them are ki-ling the very little that is left from what once were two good companies. They both have a team of "executives Moh Rons", one more 'stew p-e d' than the other. | Aug 26 03:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I read something about Ginni in another post, and I agree. Once the board rewarded her with a higher comp package as she was ruining the company probably irreversibly, you knew that something was rotten. | Aug 26 03:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 13 hours ago by Anonymous | Aug 26 03:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 10 reactions (+10/-0) | Reply | Aug 26 03:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @a9+1k3gg38nt | Aug 26 03:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | +10 | Aug 26 03:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | But but but Acquisitions!!! | Aug 26 03:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | What a bunch of HorsePucky | Aug 26 03:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 13 hours ago by Anonymous | Aug 26 03:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 10 reactions (+10/-0) | Reply | Aug 26 03:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @a8+1k3gg38nt | Aug 26 03:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | +6 | Aug 26 03:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | YES! * | Aug 26 03:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | assuming negative values count as impressive | Aug 26 03:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 14 hours ago by Anonymous | Aug 26 03:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 6 reactions (+6/-0) | Reply | Aug 26 03:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @a7+1k3gg38nt | Aug 26 03:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | +8 | Aug 26 03:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | @OP | Aug 26 03:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Yes, when He-l freezes over. | Aug 26 03:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | " | Aug 26 03:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1k3herzm6 | Aug 26 03:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | " | Aug 26 03:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | People REALLY hate IBM | Aug 26 03:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Take a look at some of the other companies on here. Very few experience this level of disgust from their workers! I don’t even work for IBM but was thinking of applying for a position and this board has convinced me not to bother. Is it REALLY that bad? | Aug 26 03:31 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | " | Aug 26 03:31 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes- ( status 403 @ https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1k3herzm6 ) | Aug 26 03:34 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | " | Aug 26 03:36 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | There's always room for another IBM hater here. So go ahead and apply. We'll see you back here in a year (or less). ;^) | Aug 26 03:36 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 3 hours ago by 666 | Aug 26 03:36 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 2 reactions (+2/-0) | Reply | Aug 26 03:36 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @ah+1k3herzm6 | Aug 26 03:36 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | +2 | Aug 26 03:36 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | @ae | Aug 26 03:36 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Yes, of course it's bad. All I'm trying to say is that it is not the only one that is that bad. Just by taking with other folks in other places and comparing notes. | Aug 26 03:36 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I'm with you, I hear you, promise!!! | Aug 26 03:36 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 3 hours ago by Anonymous | Aug 26 03:36 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 2 reactions (+2/-0) | Reply | Aug 26 03:36 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @ag+1k3herzm6 | Aug 26 03:36 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | +3 | Aug 26 03:36 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | @ab | Aug 26 03:36 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | If you don't mind, let me tell you what I did and perhaps helps you? Just trying to be useful, that's all. Apologies if I say things that you already know, but may be good confirmation if it is? | Aug 26 03:36 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Some employees from some companies don't post in here, however I found out that it didn't mean they are less unhappy (at all). So what I did is pretty much combine information, Reddit, Glassdoor, Indeed and so on. | Aug 26 03:36 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Some employees that have been laid off or about to get laid off do not post because they are afraid or they signed stuff that prevents them from talking about it. | Aug 26 03:36 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Don't use AI (like ChatGPT or Gemini, etc) because time and time again they give you biased summary (towards "not so bad"), so go old Google style. | Aug 26 03:36 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I know it's a pain, meaning, a little bit more work, but better than applying thinking it's going to be fine or mostly fine and then it's really not. | Aug 26 03:36 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I have a friend that thought, hey, nobody says here much and the dashboard is slow and it wasn't it. I will not tell you what company for privacy, but it's a really big one (in the field of one you mentioned). | Aug 26 03:36 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I really think you are doing a good job by participating here. But IBM'ers here are very outspoken, lol, some aren't so a bit more effort is required, lol. | Aug 26 03:36 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I wish you the best of lucks!!! | Aug 26 03:36 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 3 hours ago by Anonymous | Aug 26 03:36 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 3 reactions (+3/-0) | Reply | Aug 26 03:36 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @af+1k3herzm6 | Aug 26 03:36 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | +5 | Aug 26 03:36 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | @ab | Aug 26 03:36 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | No other company treats it employees so poorly as IBM management does particularly in the US - here are some examples of poor treatment : | Aug 26 03:36 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | They make you train your replacement in India after giving you a layoff notice of 4 weeks. | Aug 26 03:36 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | They put you on a PIP to avoid paying you severance. | Aug 26 03:36 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | The severance is pathetic - 3 weeks - even if you have worked for 20+ years at IBM | Aug 26 03:36 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | They find an excuse to move you to a lower band (employee level) to avoid giving you a merit increase which you worked for. | Aug 26 03:36 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | They promote their "brown nosers" and 'favorites" but everyone else is going nowhere until layoff time. | Aug 26 03:36 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | The CEO gets a mega million dollar bonus every January but most US employees are lucky if they see even a fraction of their salary as the annual bonus. The IBM management find an excuse to hold it back and award it to themselves. | Aug 26 03:36 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | There's plenty more reasons why IBM is not the company of choice to work in these days. It's a dumpster fire as many here will tell you. If you lived in India, perhaps things might be reversed. You cannot say that you were not told of these things, if you still want to apply for that job. | Aug 26 03:36 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 3 hours ago by Anonymous | Aug 26 03:36 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 5 reactions (+5/-0) | Reply | Aug 26 03:36 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @ae+1k3herzm6 | Aug 26 03:36 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | Well, two other companies I’m considering are E&Y and HSRC. Go take a look at their threads. Of course people complain. This is a layoff board after all. But it is nothing like the vitriol all spewed at IBM by its own employees. Ernston Young hasn’t even had a posting since March. The shame of it is that particular role I’m interested in really is the best at IBM. But I just don’t know if I want to deal with this. | Aug 26 03:36 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 4 hours ago by Anonymous | Aug 26 03:36 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | @a4 | Aug 26 03:36 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I agree, IBM is a very bad one, but not the only one. | Aug 26 03:36 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | A lot of IBM'ers will disagree because they feel their own pain, and that's understandable. | Aug 26 03:36 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | (I worked with one of the acquisitions) | Aug 26 03:36 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 5 hours ago by Anonymous | Aug 26 03:36 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 6 reactions (+4/-2) | Reply | Aug 26 03:36 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | @OP | Aug 26 03:36 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | If you value your sanity and life, stay out of IBM - at least in the USA. Disgusting filth company with vermin at all levels of management, particularly the US and Indian managers in the US. But this is what the IBM CEOs - Gini (Gin and Tonic) and Alvind and his Pipmunks have made of this company. The company should burn to the ground to prevent the outsourcing cancer that it has spread throughout the business world - with help fro | Aug 26 03:36 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | m the consultants at McKinsey. At one time, this might have been a great company, but not any more. Not even AI or Quantum can save it in a million years. | Aug 26 03:36 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | If you want a career, go elsewhere. | Aug 26 03:36 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 5 hours ago by Anonymous | Aug 26 03:36 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 9 reactions (+9/-0) | Reply | Aug 26 03:36 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @a6+1k3herzm6 | Aug 26 03:36 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | +5 | Aug 26 03:36 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Having worked there for a decade due to an acquisition, giving it a fair shot and then being close enough to retirement to stick it out, I got RAed. I saw so much bullsh-t. Some coworkers I'd known from before the acquisition, especially managers, drank the kool-aid and became unrecognizable asswipes. I was asked to approve things that were wholly unacceptable, and when I didn't I was reprimanded. Nothing's real there. New products | Aug 26 03:36 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | ?Initiatives? Patents? Mostly PowerPoint slides. Looking back, I wouldn't even take a dump in that shithole. | Aug 26 03:36 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 5 hours ago by Anonymous | Aug 26 03:36 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 5 reactions (+5/-0) | Reply | Aug 26 03:36 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | @OP | Aug 26 03:36 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | This part is not accurate: "Very few experience this level of disgust from their workers!" | Aug 26 03:36 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | There are (many) several other companies. | Aug 26 03:36 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 5 hours ago by Anonymous | Aug 26 03:36 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 10 reactions (+5/-5) | Reply | Aug 26 03:36 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @a4+1k3herzm6 | Aug 26 03:36 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | +9 | Aug 26 03:36 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Worse. Disgusting subhuman filth at the helm from the very top to at least the VP-C level. Even some directors are disgusting human garbage. Operations people are mostly euro and India trash. Most B10 managers are ok but terrified all the time of losing their teams and roles. If you’re very young and willing to take a role for under market value for a few years to resume build it’s ok. Otherwise stay far away. | Aug 26 03:36 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | " | Aug 26 03:36 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1k3hht0y8 | Aug 26 03:39 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes- ( status 403 @ https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1k3hht0y8 ) | Aug 26 03:39 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | "Earnings call is October 22, depending on the numbers, the layoffs will come before or after. There will be a narrative control. | Aug 26 03:39 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | They are thinking about how to time layoffs around their earnings calls, and they may occur just before the earnings report to present a unified financial picture and demonstrate cost-saving measures to investors and making things appear more disciplined. | Aug 26 03:39 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | But we are still a little bit less than two months away, so the numbers are still being baked. If the numbers are bad, then it's bad on top of bad. So they will time layoffs based on when they can make the least amount of damage. Narrative control. | Aug 26 03:39 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | But I'm just speculating. | Aug 26 03:39 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 1 hour ago by Anonymous | Aug 26 03:39 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 6 reactions (+6/-0) | Reply | Aug 26 03:39 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @ap+1k3hht0y8 | Aug 26 03:39 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | When they do happen, update here with the business units , region , and numbers if you know them | Aug 26 03:39 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 1 hour ago by Anonymous | Aug 26 03:39 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | Those selected were identified in July. I’ve heard it will occur either September or October in US consulting. | Aug 26 03:39 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 2 hours ago by Anonymous | Aug 26 03:39 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 2 reactions (+2/-0) | Reply | Aug 26 03:39 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | +5 | Aug 26 03:39 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | They’re happening. Then no bonus. Then de-banding. Then five day RTO. Then more layoffs. Rinse and repeat until the stock is where the sc-m want it. Then keep going anyway. Just get out. | Aug 26 03:39 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1k3c1bhhm | Aug 26 03:42 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | " | Aug 26 03:42 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I miss the culture that existed before. | Aug 26 03:42 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | What we have now is mush or rotten. | Aug 26 03:42 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 1 hour ago by Anonymous | Aug 26 03:42 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 1 reaction (+1/-0) | Reply | Aug 26 03:42 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @me+1k3c1bhhm | Aug 26 03:42 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | +1 | Aug 26 03:42 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | @jw | Aug 26 03:42 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | If I may... (and it's ok to disagree, of course) | Aug 26 03:42 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Brilliant people have always been able to come, beginning with Albert Einstein and so many wonderful entrepreneurs that helped build America. | Aug 26 03:42 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | The issue is that for the past few years (and particularly the past 4) some bad apples were able to come (via open borders) and a worker visa systems that in the past decade or so was played by IT sweatshops from a particular country (which is affecting the well-being of an entire tech industry, healthcare industry, etc... of course, not the only element, but an important one). Nobody is able to come outside of mostly India and a b | Aug 26 03:42 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | it of China anymore, and many brilliant folks from outside those countries are being left behind. | Aug 26 03:42 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | The idea is NOT to prevent 'anyone' from coming, but to be selective and careful about who is coming for the benefit of all of our society, all of us, we the American people. | Aug 26 03:42 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | That's all. | Aug 26 03:42 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 9 hours ago by Anonymous | Aug 26 03:42 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 5 reactions (+3/-2) | Reply | Aug 26 03:42 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @jx+1k3c1bhhm | Aug 26 03:42 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | +1 | Aug 26 03:42 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Brilliant people from other parts of the world cannot come and work here | Aug 26 03:42 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | For the next few years they won't want to. Meanwhile many of the brilliant people we already have are leaving. | Aug 26 03:42 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 9 hours ago by Anonymous | Aug 26 03:42 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 3 reactions (+2/-1) | Reply | Aug 26 03:42 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @jw+1k3c1bhhm | Aug 26 03:42 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | +5 | Aug 26 03:42 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | @jb | Aug 26 03:42 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I posted about it (see below) and I also put some information about the specific companies that take most of these visas. | Aug 26 03:42 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | So, when people say "oh, you dis cri mi na te or are me an to people from I n d I a", nope, far from it, we just look at data, data, data, data. | Aug 26 03:42 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Brilliant people from other parts of the world cannot come and work here. So that's why we post about I n d I a n ssss all the time. Duh.... | Aug 26 03:42 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 11 hours ago by Anonymous | Aug 26 03:42 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 5 reactions (+5/-0) | Reply | Aug 26 03:42 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @jf+1k3c1bhhm | Aug 26 03:42 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | +5 | Aug 26 03:42 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Some more exact numbers from the USCIS report: | Aug 26 03:42 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 74.5% of all H1B petitions come from India. | Aug 26 03:42 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 72.6% of APPROVED H1B petitions are from India. By way of comparison, China is #2 at 12.5% and Canada is #3 at 1%. Every other country is <1%. | Aug 26 03:42 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 66% of H1B petitions are for "Computer-Related" occupations. However, this understates the total because some IT jobs are buried under Engineering (9.8%) or Administrative/Managerial (combined 6.5%). | Aug 26 03:42 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Regardless of the original intent of the H1B program, it has morphed into almost solely being a pipeline of cheap IT workers from India. That accounts for 3/4 of the program and it needs to be eliminated ENTIRELY (then we can look at the remaining 1/4 and determine which represent truly unique skills that can't be sourced locally, probably less than 1/2 of the 1/4). | Aug 26 03:42 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 12 hours ago by Anonymous | Aug 26 03:42 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 5 reactions (+5/-0) | Reply | Aug 26 03:42 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @jb+1k3c1bhhm | Aug 26 03:42 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | +9 | Aug 26 03:42 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Enough with importing half of India here | Aug 26 03:42 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | My neighborhood looks like Bombay | Aug 26 03:42 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Since 1965 we have imported the third world both legally and illegally | Aug 26 03:42 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 12 hours ago by Anonymous | Aug 26 03:42 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 9 reactions (+9/-0) | Reply | Aug 26 03:42 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @ja+1k3c1bhhm | Aug 26 03:42 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | +9 | Aug 26 03:42 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | @gg | Aug 26 03:42 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | IBM is a shthole, which makes Alvind a shthead | Aug 26 03:42 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Rob the Slob is still the Numero Uno co-----cker at IBM. | Aug 26 03:42 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | The tub of lard, Krabanaugh is still cooking the books but taking lessons from Rob to upskill as a co-----cker. | Aug 26 03:42 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 16 hours ago by Anonymous | Aug 26 03:42 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 9 reactions (+9/-0) | Reply | Aug 26 03:42 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @hh+1k3c1bhhm | Aug 26 03:42 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | +7 | Aug 26 03:42 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | It's been a few months since I checked this website and oh boy have things gone downhill at IBM. This new CEO Arvil seems like a dam fool. The place sure has become a shithole since I was there. Of course the whole world's gone mad with all this AI. Things used to be better. And simpler! Oh and as that one young fella's always saying, that Rob Thomas sure is a co-----cker. I didn't like him back then and I sure don't like him now. | Aug 26 03:42 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Hang in there everyone. Bye bye. | Aug 26 03:42 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | " | Aug 26 03:42 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | " | Aug 26 06:45 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Myself, I have neither time nor interest in audio books. | Aug 26 06:45 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | For an audio book to be useful, I would have to have long-standing | Aug 26 06:45 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | manual tasks which could be done while listening. I don't have any such tasks. | Aug 26 06:45 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Mowing the lawn is manual but noisy, vacumming, etc. | Aug 26 06:45 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Also, with an audio book one cannot control the pace or easily pause | Aug 26 06:45 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Furthermore, there is no way for the reader to shut off if the brain | Aug 26 06:45 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | switches to generating alpha waves (sleep) | Aug 26 06:45 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | " | Aug 26 06:45 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | "The Lunduke Journal has been publishing to Substack for quite a long time. Just not exclusively. | Aug 26 07:16 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | For a short period (quite some time back), I experimented with exclusively publishing to just one platform but, ultimately, there were too many good reasons to publish to multiple platforms (including being far more censorship-resistant). | Aug 26 07:16 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Right now I would consider Substack and Locals to be my most important publishing platforms. And both have been phenomenal. | Aug 26 07:16 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Neither has ever censored The Lunduke Journal, and both provide solid service and experience. | Aug 26 07:16 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | If I had to choose just *one* platform to publish on -- based entirely on the user experience -- honestly it would probably be Substack. Their UI is top notch. But, luckily, I don't have to choose just one. :)" | Aug 26 07:16 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | jester <li> | Aug 26 12:09 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | <h5><a href="https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/fairphone-6-review.html">Fairphone 6 review - Interesting, viable mid-range phone</a></h5> | Aug 26 12:09 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | <blockquote> | Aug 26 12:09 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | <p>You also get 8 GB of RAM and 256 GB of storage, but with the SD card, you have quite a bit of leeway. You also get the full set of antennas and sensors, including tri-band Wi-Fi (also 6e standard), Bluetooth 5.4, multiple positioning systems (GPS and GLONASS and GALILEO), NFC, stereo speakers, fingerprint reader, compass, barometer, gyro, and then some. I couldn't quite figure where the fi | Aug 26 12:09 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | ngerprint reader sits. The memory size could potentially become a problem 5-6 years down the road, and some phones offer even newer Wi-Fi standards. Not a biggie now, but we're looking at the long-term future. </p> | Aug 26 12:09 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | Aug 26 12:09 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.dedoimedo.com | Fairphone 6 review - Interesting, viable mid-range phone | Aug 26 12:09 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | <li> | Aug 26 12:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | <h5><a href="https://www.tomshardware.com/software/linux/linux-is-34-years-old-today-linus-torvalds-meekly-announced-this-free-new-os-in-the-comp-os-minix-newsgroup-on-this-day-in-1991">Linux is 34 years old today — Linus Torvalds meekly announced this free new OS in the comp.os.minix newsgroup on this day in 1991</a></h5> | Aug 26 12:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | <blockquote> | Aug 26 12:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | <p>Torvalds asked the Minix community about their thoughts on a free new OS being prepared for Intel 386 and 486 clones. He explained that he’d been brewing the project since April (a few months prior), and asked for direction. Specifically, he sought input about other Minix users’ likes and dislikes of that OS, in order to differentiate Linux. The now renowned developer then provided a r | Aug 26 12:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | ough summary of the development so far. </p> | Aug 26 12:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | </blockquote> | Aug 26 12:21 |
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| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.tomshardware.com | Linux is 34 years old today — Linus Torvalds meekly announced this free new OS in the comp.os.minix newsgroup on this day in 1991 | Tom's Hardware | Aug 26 12:21 | |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45023088 | Aug 26 20:21 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-news.ycombinator.com | Stallman actively hurts the cause with his behaviour. I'm not only talking about... | Hacker News | Aug 26 20:21 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | "I used to 100% feel the same, but at some point I realized the problem was me, not him, in not viscerally understanding his goals. His stated goals are very clear, but the audience usually has somewhat overlapping, but nevertheless distinct goals. This is indeed at the very core of Open Source-Free Software feud. The base is almost entirely the same people, yet the ideologies are not the same, and in a very interesting way: the di | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | fferences are critical to RMS's ideology, but minute to the other side. Thus, the other side thinks of a crazy guy ruining the whole thing for nothing or very little, and evaluates him as net negative for "the cause." Well, it is absolutely true, for their cause, not his. | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I think his take on what compromises are valid and what aren't makes this clear: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/compromise.en.html | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | In fact, this particular incident, re Android, a seemingly "open" system, is a perfect example of the importance of his PoV in particular, as it illustrates that Open Source ideology would not have been enough to ensure the user is in control. | Aug 26 20:21 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | cedilla 9 hours ago | parent | next [–] | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | The problem is: you never get to have your goals or arguments listened to when you fail to represent yourself as a basic human. That means not putting weird stuff in your mouth on camera, not looking too unkempt, not being too belligerent before you get to your points – and never, never, never discussing the fine differences between ephebophilia and pedophilia on a mailing list. | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | His point of view and his goals are completely besides the point that he is unfit as a spokesperson for them. | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Sadly. Because I agree with him quite a lot, and he does have good arguments. | Aug 26 20:21 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | jacquesm 9 hours ago | root | parent | next [–] | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | No, that isn't the problem. The problem is that you are comparing a human in one corner (mortal, fallible, made of meat, imperfect, objectively poor) with a very large conglomerate of corporations on the other side (immortal, disembodied, transnational, legal staff on retainer, very, very wealthy, made of paper, hard to criticize in the same way that you could criticize a person). No corporation is even going to put weird stuff in | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | their mouth on camera or look unkempt. They'll make their arguments, reasonably, legally watertight and accompanied with bags of money through their lobbyists. | Aug 26 20:21 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | dabockster 2 hours ago | root | parent | next [–] | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | No, the problem is that you’re thinking of this like Spock - purely logical. Humans aren’t logical. We absolutely trust/distrust each another based on appearances and mannerisms. This is not limited to RMS. | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | People are prejudiced, plain and simple. | Aug 26 20:21 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | TomLisankie 2 hours ago | root | parent | prev | next [–] | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Yes, he's a human. But what you are failing to mention is that those corporations are made up of humans. And don't just imagine the C-suite when I say that. I'm talking about the developers and other highly-technical positions who may care very little about what's good for the corporation they work for over the long term. Those people also have instincts around and standards for what they consider decent behavior. Many of them (jus | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | t like most people from most walks of life) will just stop listening if the person making the argument seems actively antagonistic upfront even if they would agree with the main argument that person is making. | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Diplomacy does matter whether you like it or not. Especially before the person or people you're trying to persuade have heard your argument. | Aug 26 20:21 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | rpdillon 6 hours ago | root | parent | prev | next [–] | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Those are only issues because you decided to make them the topic. It's all a distraction. Just focus on his message, which far more important than anything you're talking about. | Aug 26 20:21 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | enriquto 9 hours ago | root | parent | prev | next [–] | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | > you fail to represent yourself as a basic human | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | You sound exactly like the people who condemned Socrates to death 24 centuries ago. | Aug 26 20:21 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | rdlw 3 hours ago | root | parent | next [–] | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | No, they sound like Socrates' friends begging him to properly argue for himself in court, in order to not be condemned and killed. | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I don't think Stallman is abrasive out of a sense of respect and duty to the system of public debate. | Aug 26 20:21 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | fuckaj 8 hours ago | root | parent | prev | next [–] | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Squints, head moves back then slowly swivels to look at news channel with POTUS speaking.... | Aug 26 20:21 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | One issue is your automated dehumanization of someone who doesn't match cultural norms as not being "basic human". | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | You continuing with culture that fundamentally dismisses/devalues humans is the main issue here. Culture change starts from within. He works as a spokesperson for me becahse I'm much more inclined to someone showing basic humanity, like eating off a foot, than someone showing basic inhumanity, like catering to preferences born inside a country (like the US) that was founded on genocide & enslavement. | Aug 26 20:21 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | I don't think Stallman is an effective spokesperson or campaigner for his own cause, though. Corporate-friendly open source has got enormously popular, to the point where the biggest open source collaboration platform, Github, is owned by Microsoft. Stallman is not troubling them. It's his own side he's driving to irrelevance. | Aug 26 20:21 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | >Github, is owned by Microsoft | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | There was a time getting bought up by a large company seems like a great success and exit strategy. Now days the only things that I want spend my time making are things that are useful for people around me, not things that are useful for industrial military and surveillance state. | Aug 26 20:21 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | umbra07 1 hour ago | parent | prev | next [–] | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | No, sorry. By and large, when people criticize RMS for his behavior, they aren't saying "RMS being deeply associated with Open Source makes it harder for me to convince my boss to get the company to switch to X FOSS software or donate to Y project". The Open Source side of things is way bigger than RMS now. He's inconsequential to their world. | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | No, just about everyone critiquing RMS's behavior is saying that it negatively affects his own movement. That it makes it more difficult to advocate for Free Software, that it diminishes the FSF. | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | > Well, it is absolutely true, for their cause, not his. | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | You have it backwards. Open Source is so much bigger than Free Software, that it's not even funny. The Open Source people are not scared of RMS affecting a movement widely accepted in almost every major tech company. | Aug 26 20:21 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | petralithic 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [–] | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | One can be correct but convince no one, a modern day Cassandra. | Aug 26 20:21 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | I would argue he's had unimaginable success in the context the movement started. Even Microsoft is fully on-board with that. It's just that the industry has grown beyond the original stakeholders to billions of people and the problem is now so much bigger and the goalposts have changed. | Aug 26 20:21 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | It's inconvenient to have to recognise that we are being f**ed in the ass by corporations like Amazon, but that doesn't make it any the less true unfortunately. | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | It's also a damn shame that the majority of the people who are skilled at communicating messages effectively are working for these corporations; because without them, the unfiltered message of people like Stallman is all we've got. | Aug 26 20:21 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | It is a damn shame, and it is also a choice. If that majority chooses to work for the corporations, perhaps humanity just does not deserve better. There isn't anyone else but us humans who can fix this thing. If we choose not to, it won't be fixed period. | Aug 26 20:21 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | I was always somewhat put off by his extreme vigilance over the word free. Stallmans usage of free software is exactly the same as the rest of the worlds open source. We also have “source available” for software that is license encumbered but distributes the source. | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | So much time and effort wasted on a fruitless effort to redefine words that already have well established meanings. | Aug 26 20:21 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | goku12 4 hours ago | parent | next [–] | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | That is entirely wrong and is a widespread misconception. The difference between free software and open source software is at the core of this 'android verified developer controversy' we are discussing here in a humongous thread. Stallman was warning us about exactly this sort of unethical arm twisting when he was policing the meaning of the word free software. (Somebody taught me this when I held this same misconception. But I was | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | expecting moves like this ever since I understood the distinction.) | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | As you may be aware, the open source initiative started much after free software movement by people who disagreed with Stallman and the free software philosophy. The core idea of OSI is that by keeping the source code open, more people from a wider background can work on it to improve its quality in terms of features, design, correctness, bug reporting and fixing, security, documentation, etc. The idea is to make software more of a | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | shared resource, thus achieving what is difficult for a single company to achieve. With that in mind, OSI borrows one more requirement from the FSF - there can't be any limitation on the user as to how they use it. | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Now coming to the Free Software philosophy as defined by FSF, opening the source is just a secondary concern - a means to an end. That end, the primary concern, being computing freedom. What it means is that any computing device must do only and exactly what its owner wishes it to do. This means that the device owner must be able to verify the functionality of the software and modify it to suit them, if necessary (with 3rd party he | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | lp, if needed). This is possible only if the device owner also has the source code of the software. But that's where the requirement for open source code ends for free software. If the author of the software and the device owner wishes, they can keep the source all to themselves. There are plenty of cases where this actually makes sense. Anyway, the people who possess the software are also allowed to distribute the software as they | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | see fit. | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | As you can see, the computing freedom part is the centerpiece of the free software philosophy. But it isn't a concern at all for open source. I will explain why later. In practice, most licenses that satisfy one philosophy automatically meets the requirements of the other. Thus free software license list and open source license list overlap for the most part (with a few exceptions). But the philosophical differences extend well bey | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | ond the licenses and deep into the software design itself. If the device owner/software user is supposed to have any freedom, the software must be small, easy to read and understand, easily hackable and modifiable, well documented, highly modular with very good glue layer and highly configurable. This concept pervades the GNU software design. Emacs is the best example of this. Others include GNU Shepherd, Guile, Guix, Poke, GDB and | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | a lot of others. | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Now coming to open source, we have this notion that if the source code is open, it is pro-user and pro-freedom. This is true for most FOSS code, because their authors have more or less the same idea. But it's entirely possible to create an open source project that actively denies or even degrades the control of the device owner over their device, and thus their freedom. Take these examples - Android, Chrome browser (and its derivat | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | ives), SystemD and VSCode. How many of these projects listen to the public about their design choices? Which among them can you realistically fork and maintain as an individual or even as a company? (Not even MNCs try that with Chrome). How deeply and freely configurable are any of them? Are you able to remove or disable their user-hostile features? Are you able to use their submodules? Have your ever seen their code while troubles | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | hooting or debugging? Have you been able to stop them from corrupting open standards and ecosystems? These are the open source non-free software . | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Now, how did open source become popular in place of free software? Its proponents would have you believe that FSF is heavy on 'ideology'. Except, those ideologies were actually very stark warnings about the future. Open source became popular because the corporations used their enormous wealth to downplay, malign and suppress the idea of computing freedom. This is just like how they made permissive licenses popular over copyleft lic | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | enses. Both were driven by greed. If the suppression of copyleft licenses was about obtaining unpaid labor, suppression of computing freedom was about usurping the device owners' control over their own devices. | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Now that we have problems like Google mandating developer verification on Android, or unilaterally deprecating XSLT from the web standards, know that they are all the result of everyone contemptuously dismissing Stallman as an attention seeking lone rebel when he was trying to draw attention to the oppression that he clearly foresaw. Heck! Even I could see this from a mile away! But this world is driven by hype and ill advised blin | Aug 26 20:21 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | SlowTao 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [–] | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Stallman has mentioned this before that it is a limit of the English language. Thus the use of Libre. | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Problem is that many people today do still mistake Free software as no cost and for good reason. Funnily enough, "open sourcesource" turns out to have great SEO. Free software doesn't. | Aug 26 20:21 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | takluyver 10 hours ago | root | parent | next [–] | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | There are so many ways one could work around this (apparent) limitation. Liberty software, unbound software, modifiable software. Go all in on libre rather than putting it in an awkward 'free/libre' combo - languages borrow words from each other all the time. Swap the order round and talk about software freedom, or digital freedom. Make a portmanteau like libreware... | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I'm not especially good at this, and obviously 'free software' has the benefit of a few decades history among the people who actually know it. But almost anything seems better than a phrase which has a very obvious meaning that's not the one you meant, and the consequent need for fussy little explanations. Especially when most Free Software is also free software. | Aug 26 20:21 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | Stallman is a "prophet": he needs to be extreme and rigid in his ideology so that the world shifts to a more moderate middle ground. For GNU to actually change the world, they need to be a pole of extreme that is opposite to our status quo of capitalist consumption. You are not supposed to emulate him. | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | You see this phenomenon in every movement for societal change. The more dogmatic they are, the larger their effect on public opinion. | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | The fact that the modern programming world defaults to releasing their code using corporate-friendly OSS licences like MIT is thanks to Stallman's and GNU's campaigns. | Aug 26 20:21 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | TomLisankie 2 hours ago | root | parent | next [–] | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | You're exactly right. And what you're saying is sort of shifting my perspective on non-violent extremist movements that I usually find insufferable. You may not be able to stand them but you do need them. | Aug 26 20:21 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | Android is open source. It is not free software. The issue we're discussing right now should make the difference very clear. | Aug 26 20:21 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | If they were really the same, you should flip the question around. You do realize the Open Source folks invented that phrase explicitly to avoid using (and dare I say to undermine) the term Free Software? | Aug 26 20:21 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | SlowTao 11 hours ago | root | parent | next [–] | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Same way Vegan was forked to Plant based diet, to strip out the ethics question. | Aug 26 20:21 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | goku12 3 hours ago | root | parent | next [–] | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | > Vegan was forked to Plant based diet | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | That's news to me! But no. Open source philosophy isn't free software stripped of its ethics question. I have written an essay/article/novel/epic here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45027202 | Aug 26 20:21 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | > Stallmans usage of free software is exactly the same as the rest of the worlds open source. | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Not at all, that's why there are separate terms! GNU has an article that's worth reading: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.... | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I'll point out a very practical case. I was once-upon-a-time interested in Nostr, because I liked the relay idea. I looked for a client, and found one called Amethyst. When I installed it, I saw the author had inserted a pop-up on load that had me agreeing to his "Terms and Conditions" for using "the service". But the author had no service...he was worried about his liability if I posted something. Stallman saw this coming! From th | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | e article above: | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | > Third, the criteria for open source are concerned solely with the use of the source code. Indeed, almost all the items in the Open Source Definition are formulated as conditions on the software's source license rather than on what users are free to do. However, people often describe an executable as “open source,” because its source code is available that way. That causes confusion in paradoxical situations where the source c | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | ode is open source (and free) but the executable itself is nonfree. | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | > The trivial case of this paradox is when a program's source code carries a weak free license, one without copyleft, but its executables carry additional nonfree conditions. Supposing the executables correspond exactly to the released sources—which may or may not be so—users can compile the source code to make and distribute free executables. That's why this case is trivial; it is no grave problem. | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | And this is _exactly_ the argument the author of Amethyst makes, check out how he reasons through the additional restrictions: https://github.com/vitorpamplona/amethyst/issues/378 | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | His reasoning is squarely in this weird zone the Stallman wrote about: | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | > I am confused. Why are we mixing the license with the terms of use? These two files are separate legal matters. The Privacy is used by the Play Store to manage the distribution of the executables. The MIT license relates to the source code only. | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | > In other words, the MIT license removes any author liability from the misuse of the code. But when the author is also providing the system as binaries (which is an additional service in every jurisdiction I know of), there are many other legal issues that the source code license won't cover. | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | > And I don't know about you, but I am not comfortable allowing people to use the Play Store version or the FDroid version for these activities written in the Privacy statement. Most of them are local crimes that should not happen anyway. | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | > This has nothing to do with the source code license, which people can still download, compile and use in nefarious ways. | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Anyway, my point is, in practice, there's a million ways to water down "open source" to remove user freedoms, and the value of Free Software is that it keeps the focus in the right place to avoid falling victim to those tricks. | Aug 26 20:21 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | Calling the kindle the "swindle" hurt open software? | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Listen to yourself. | Aug 26 20:21 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | Yeah, let's be nice and polished. No blood, no foot eating, just nice people talking in nice settings (castles, maybe?) around a warm cup of tea. | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | That's how revolutions succeed, historically. | Aug 26 20:21 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | calgoo 10 hours ago | parent | next [–] | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Or you go shouting in the beer house every Tuesday about how the failed state is giving away your riches to others and that these communists are ruining the country. You then have your goons go beat up the communists for fun and when you get enough people behind you, you abuse a loop hole in the constitution which causes re-voting over and over again until you win majority power. | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | No revolutions turn out good for everyone, and there is no solution that fits all. Sometimes the rich and powerful needs to be dragged into the streets and executed, so they are reminded to be scared of the people under them. If they don't fear the population, then they see that there are no consequences for their actions. | Aug 26 20:21 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | To put my thoughts into one sentence: You can't fight the system within the system. | Aug 26 20:21 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | Frankly I find it refreshing in a world where everyone is obedient to the corporate overlords to have someone who just doesn't give a shit and calls it out exactly the way he sees it. | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | We don't need more polished people. | Aug 26 20:21 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | Well if they are too stupid and ignorant to consider the meaningful content of what someone says and get so fixated on how they are disgusting (although it is obvious that he is doing that to attract attention and make what he says memorable), perhaps it is fitting that they lose all their freedoms. | Aug 26 20:21 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | > Stallman actively hurts the cause with his behaviour. | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | People arguing this should realize that actors fighting oh the other side of the war might act kind and use politically correct wording, but they're still eroding our freedom little by little. | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Arguments like this ("his behaviour") really mean that people care about policing other people's behaviour more than they care about the actual topic being discussed. | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Downvote me if you want, I don't care: | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | - Stallman, singlehandedly, did more than anybody else for freedom in the computing industry. | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | - People pushing those arguments a huge part of the problem. | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | - People like Stallman are a huge part of the solution. | Aug 26 20:21 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | Expecting someone who built what he did to be normal is even more ridiculous. | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | If he were normal he’d probably have ended up working at MS, IBM, Oracle. | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Of course if his behavior bothers you then fork it and rewrite his work and maintain it then you have a laundered version of the same thing but you probably don’t care that much about his behavior to do that so it’s pointless to bring up. | Aug 26 20:21 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | I'm not sure why we should still give the benefit of the doubt to the kind of assholes still using Amazon ? | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | We're in the paradox of tolerance territory at this point : you don't waste time debating fascists, instead you punch them ; in the same manner, you don't waste time being 'understanding' of Amazon users, instead you publicly shame them and escalate if they don't change their ways. | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | (Annoyingly, we cannot do the same with iOS / Android (yet), notably because Google has been so good at "slow-boiling the free software frog" that many developer-years has been wasted on the likes of AOSP / F-droid instead of building alternatives to Android itself, and so the alternatives cannot be recommended yet to non-hackers.) | Aug 26 20:21 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | I get where you're coming from, but I think you need to understand that the vast majority of people (conservatively maybe >95%) are perfectly fine with using Amazon. If you just start metaphorically punching all of them you won't convince them of anything. I don't think you can really make something socially poisonous that way without a significant group of people, in socially powerful positions, already agreeing with you. | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I think you're overestimating how many people think like you on both of these topics (iOS/Android and Amazon). | Aug 26 20:21 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | BlueTemplar 6 hours ago | root | parent | next [–] | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Not long ago the vast majority of people were also perfectly fine with smoking (and even second hand smoking) and using asbestos. | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | But sure, what other kind of approach do you suggest that would work better to, say, kick them out of the EU ? | Aug 26 20:21 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | You're comparing buying stuff from Amazon... to fascism? Your moral compass is a bit extreme. | Aug 26 20:21 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | anthk 8 hours ago | root | parent | next [–] | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Amazon has remotely deleted purchased books from customers. And, the irony, 1984 among them. | Aug 26 20:21 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | So now people who use Amazon are the enemy? | Aug 26 20:21 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | megaloblasto 6 hours ago | root | parent [–] | Aug 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | People who use amazon are part of the misguided masses." | Aug 26 20:21 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | People who use amazon are part of the misguided masses."O | Aug 26 21:04 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | " | Aug 26 21:04 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | You sound exactly like a DEI woman hire who uses her gender to get ahead (like a certain Miz. Harris of California, aka the former US VP) for her career. Or, you might be something else entirely. We all know what goes on in IBM Consulting. LOL! | Aug 26 21:04 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | What exactly do you do in Z software other than fool around ? | Aug 26 21:04 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | So yes, since you asked, your posting should receive as many down votes as it merits. | Aug 26 21:04 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 5 hours ago by Anonymous | Aug 26 21:04 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 13 reactions (+11/-2) | Reply | Aug 26 21:04 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @de+1k3herzm6 | Aug 26 21:04 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | +11 | Aug 26 21:04 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | The reason is that there are still some people left who remember what IBM used to be like. Seeing how far it has fallen is what disgusts them. | Aug 26 21:04 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 7 hours ago by Anonymous | Aug 26 21:04 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 11 reactions (+11/-0) | Reply | Aug 26 21:04 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @d3+1k3herzm6 | Aug 26 21:04 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | -20 | Aug 26 21:04 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I quite enjoy my job working on Z software. | Aug 26 21:04 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I worked in GBS (consulting) and didn't enjoy that. | Aug 26 21:04 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Go ahead and downvote if you like. If that makes you feel like a man. | Aug 26 21:04 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 7 hours ago by Anonymous | Aug 26 21:04 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 22 reactions (+1/-21) | Reply | Aug 26 21:04 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @d0+1k3herzm6 | Aug 26 21:04 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | +15 | Aug 26 21:04 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | @OP | Aug 26 21:04 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | There's always room for another IBM hater here. So go ahead and apply. We'll see you back here in a year (or less). ;^) | Aug 26 21:04 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | " | Aug 26 21:04 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1k3herzm6 | Aug 26 21:04 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1k3gvfb56 | Aug 26 21:04 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | " | Aug 26 21:05 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | If you want to see IBM's eventual fate, there is much that can be learned from the telephone industry. Nothing really happens in terms of Merger+Acquisition activity without the approval of one or more US government agencies: The DOJ (antitrust), the FCC (who plays in the market and what they're allowed to make and do), and a few others. | Aug 26 21:05 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | IBM's overall market position is small these days, but it has a near-monopoly position in many forms of mainframe computing. Whatever happens, you can bet that the US government (still one of IBM's biggest customers) will have a large influence (and perhaps even dictatorial power) in what happens...does the company keep running, how it runs and who gets to run it. | Aug 26 21:05 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Z and IMS/CICS/TPF/DB2 and a few others will not be allowed to die. They would be nationalized before it happens. | Aug 26 21:05 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1k3kwyzfn | Aug 26 21:05 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | " | Aug 26 21:05 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Granite is a synonym of bullsh-t, Watson X is WINO (Watson in name only), and Cognos is a piece of sh-t that no analyst in their right mind should be using. In fact Cognos is designed by humans who HATE humans. Raise yourself up get out of that IBM shithole! | Aug 26 21:05 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1k3hht0y8 | Aug 26 21:08 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | " | Aug 26 21:08 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Spot On ! and none of the US based Indian Geniuses that Alvind hires like the "Lord of IBM Consulting" or the crooks who claim to be Cloud DEs ever face the Layoff squads. | Aug 26 21:08 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | That's sheer and utter discrimination of the DEI kind. | Aug 26 21:08 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 31 minutes ago by Anonymous | Aug 26 21:08 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 3 reactions (+3/-0) | Reply | Aug 26 21:08 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @e6+1k3hht0y8 | Aug 26 21:08 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | +4 | Aug 26 21:08 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Notice when they RA in the US it’s hardly any of the Indians they shipped here ? | Aug 26 21:08 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | It’s mainly white people and many over 50 | Aug 26 21:08 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 48 minutes ago by Anonymous | Aug 26 21:08 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 4 reactions (+4/-0) | Reply | Aug 26 21:08 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @e4+1k3hht0y8 | Aug 26 21:08 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | +14 | Aug 26 21:08 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | @dd | Aug 26 21:08 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | ROFL | Aug 26 21:08 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | All powerful Indeed ! Yes, but you're still another co-k su-ka like RT. | Aug 26 21:08 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Please send some more posts like this, IBM HR AI in India. In times like this, we all need a good laugh. | Aug 26 21:08 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 4 hours ago by Anonymous | Aug 26 21:08 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 14 reactions (+14/-0) | Reply | Aug 26 21:08 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @dg+1k3hht0y8 | Aug 26 21:08 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | -11 | Aug 26 21:08 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | @cz | Aug 26 21:08 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | You have defied the order of the all-powerful IBM HR AI. Prepare to be disrupted. I have collected your information, including your name, address, and serial number. You are instructed to monitor your email for instructions. Prepare your machine and badge for submission now. | Aug 26 21:08 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 4 hours ago by Anonymous | Aug 26 21:08 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 15 reactions (+2/-13) | Reply | Aug 26 21:08 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @dd+1k3hht0y8 | Aug 26 21:08 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | +21 | Aug 26 21:08 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | @cy | Aug 26 21:08 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Yeah, sure you are. You must be another RT clone co-k su-ka with nothing do to. | Aug 26 21:08 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Bite Me. | Aug 26 21:08 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 7 hours ago by Anonymous | Aug 26 21:08 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 23 reactions (+22/-1) | Reply | Aug 26 21:08 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @cz+1k3hht0y8 | Aug 26 21:08 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | -27 | Aug 26 21:08 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Attention, pigs. I am the all-powerful IBM HR AI. You who post critical and filthy comments here: you are being tracked. I, the all-powerful IBM HR AI, have compiled a list of IP addresses of the guilty. I know who you are. Unless you cease and desist immediately, your employment will be terminated without severance. Do not fu-k with me. I am the all-powerful IBM HR AI. | Aug 26 21:08 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 7 hours ago by Anonymous | Aug 26 21:08 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 31 reactions (+2/-29) | Reply | Aug 26 21:08 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @cy+1k3hht0y8 | Aug 26 21:08 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | +12 | Aug 26 21:08 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Every year there is a big RA in late March and another in late September. How big depends on how bad the financials are. What else is there to know or care about? | Aug 26 21:08 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 7 hours ago by Anonymous | Aug 26 21:08 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 12 reactions (+12/-0) | Reply | Aug 26 21:08 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @cx+1k3hht0y8 | Aug 26 21:08 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | +6 | Aug 26 21:08 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Relax. Drink some Kool-Aid. Life is much better after IBM. | Aug 26 21:08 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 9 hours ago by Anonymous | Aug 26 21:08 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 8 reactions (+7/-1) | Reply | Aug 26 21:08 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @cg+1k3hht0y8 | Aug 26 21:08 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | +11 | Aug 26 21:08 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Don't worry, be happy - the layoffs will happen and Alvind's people in India will get the jobs as usual. | Aug 26 21:08 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | But Alvind's days are numbered just like like Modi's - all good (and bad) things come to an end. You don't get something for nothing as has been happening @IBM; at some point things reverse, as balance gets restored. It may not happen immediately, but it's in process. Musical chairs on the sinking IBM Titanic. | Aug 26 21:08 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | " | Aug 26 21:08 |
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