●● IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, September 26, 2021 ●● ● Sep 26 [01:04] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:04] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:06] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techbytes [01:07] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Sep 26 [02:12] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:13] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:24] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techbytes [02:24] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techbytes [02:27] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Sep 26 [03:59] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:59] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Sep 26 [04:00] *DaemonFC (~DaemonFC@ay4sab52k6ay4.irc) has joined #techbytes [04:22] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techbytes [04:22] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techbytes [04:25] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [04:25] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [04:27] *DaemonFC has quit (connection closed) ● Sep 26 [07:52] schestowitz-TR https://nitter.actionsack.com/mindlessx3__/status/1441925225030029312#m [07:52] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-nitter.actionsack.com | Brian Bustamante (@mindlessx3__): "" | nitter [07:52] schestowitz-TR https://nitter.actionsack.com/mindlessx3__/status/1441923750450974721#m [07:52] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-nitter.actionsack.com | Brian Bustamante (@mindlessx3__): "" | nitter ● Sep 26 [08:36] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techbytes [08:36] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Sep 26 [09:19] *schestowitz has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [09:20] *schestowitz (~roy@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techbytes [09:20] *irc.techrights.org sets mode +q #techbytes schestowitz [09:20] schestowitz [19:51] sorry for disturbing [09:20] schestowitz [19:51] while ago i had seen you supported /keyx [09:20] schestowitz [19:52] keytool? [09:20] schestowitz [19:52] fish [09:20] schestowitz [19:53] had to patch irss-fish plugin, because it segfaulted, and wanted to quickly test with a peer who supported /keyx and setkey [09:20] schestowitz [19:53] strangely your client doesn't respond to /keyx anymore [09:20] schestowitz [19:53] I'm not sure of keyx [09:20] schestowitz [19:53] I do use some CLI tools for i/o in x [09:20] schestowitz [19:54] but I'm no gurus [09:20] schestowitz [19:54] i did successfully keyx once, but your client doesn't respond anymore [09:20] schestowitz [20:15] ?OTRv23? [09:20] schestowitz [20:23] my client as in IRC, server? [09:20] schestowitz [20:23] I need to check what keyx actually is [09:20] schestowitz [20:23] end-to-end [09:20] schestowitz [20:23] oh [09:20] schestowitz [20:23] it's irc [09:20] schestowitz [20:23] two common options exist: fish, otr [09:20] schestowitz [20:23] you menion irss [09:20] schestowitz [20:23] I never used it [09:21] schestowitz [20:23] once your client did have fish support, various irc clients did support it [09:21] schestowitz [20:24] I barely know IRC features for user-to-user [09:21] schestowitz [20:24] xxxxxxxxx was the one who supported otr, and initialized a session once [09:21] schestowitz [20:25] well, fish plugin is pached now, which was broken and i wanted to quickly test the patch; and otr is configured now [09:21] schestowitz [20:25] I thought you were talking about some xorg/xserver thing at first [09:21] schestowitz [20:26] sorry for the confusion, i got a TODO list here, and arrived at bugfixing of some irc/irssi client issues which were introduced by some update [09:21] schestowitz [20:26] besides, i wanted to verify if any client on techrights was configured, uhm, appropriately [09:21] schestowitz [20:27] schestowitz what irritates me is that your client once responded to keyx, and doesn't anymore. maybe you updated/changed your irc client meanwhile [09:21] schestowitz [20:31] I use several clients, plus custom made ones I wrote in bash [09:21] schestowitz [20:31] two custom-made, 4 GUIs [09:21] schestowitz [20:32] ok, no problem, thought the nick schestowitz was statically configured for keyx (which is common if supported, to not drop that) [09:21] schestowitz [20:32] that's why, once a keyx succeeded whenever i /query a session is automatically peer-to-peer auhtenticated, but your client setup had changed, which breakst the whole idea of this [09:21] schestowitz [20:35] so I set /delk, and consider the schestowitz nickname not peer-authenticated [09:21] schestowitz [20:46] schestowitz , maybe, why had you changed your client setup and dropped keyx ? [09:21] schestowitz [21:34] a keyx was successfully set 2021-06-22, and few weeks later 2021-09-06 your peer authentication was lost when i queried your nick [09:21] schestowitz [21:55] maybe I am not logged in or maybe another account [09:21] schestowitz [21:56] it was explicitely the nick schestowitz which peer-authenticated correctly, but didn't anymore for an unknown reason [09:21] schestowitz [21:57] this nick may be authenticated against techrights irc server, but it isn't peer-authenticated anymore with me [09:21] schestowitz [09:21] schestowitz [09:21] schestowitz [22:58] ?OTRv23? [09:21] schestowitz [22:58] hi [09:21] schestowitz [22:59] neither otr nor keyx response [09:21] schestowitz [22:59] does it work? [09:21] schestowitz [22:59] no [09:21] schestowitz [22:59] did it work the last time? [09:21] schestowitz [22:59] I use the same version [09:21] schestowitz [22:59] last time i confirmed your peer-authentication was 2021-06-22 [09:21] schestowitz [23:00] and didn't query you privately until 2021-09-06 [09:21] schestowitz [23:00] anytime within ~10weeks had changed with your irc client [09:21] schestowitz [23:00] the server was very new in June [09:21] schestowitz [23:00] it isn't the server, it is your irc client [09:21] schestowitz [23:00] no, not even system updates impacting konversation [09:21] schestowitz [23:01] try schestowitz logger [09:21] schestowitz [23:01] it's xchat [09:21] schestowitz [23:01] nope, nothing with schestowitz_log either [09:21] schestowitz [23:02] both OTR and fish/keyx require a plugin [09:21] schestowitz [23:03] peer-authentication is compromised, except AdmFubar who supports OTR and his fingerprint matches [09:21] schestowitz [23:04] maybe IRC server has some support too, but i was concerned with peer-authentication of the irc clients, which is compromised with your nickname [09:21] schestowitz [23:05] I know so little about OTR in IRC [09:22] schestowitz [23:05] afaik, I never used it (consciously) [09:22] schestowitz [23:05] sorry if I'm a n00b at this [09:22] schestowitz [23:06] nope, not otr, your client supported fish, which was very cool [09:22] schestowitz [23:06] i dropped the keyx 2021-09-06 [09:22] schestowitz [23:08] I rarely use direct messaging in irc [09:22] schestowitz [23:08] I never thought of irc as secure as pgp or ssh [09:22] schestowitz [23:08] i patched irssi-fish today, because some bug was introduced with an update from upstream, and remembered your client did support it, but doesn't anymore [09:22] schestowitz [23:09] are you sure you did not use it with some other person whom you misremember as me? [09:22] schestowitz [23:09] we had a chat over irc once once before [09:22] schestowitz [23:10] afaik, something about a site hostile towards us [09:22] schestowitz [23:10] it was likely start of sept. [09:22] schestowitz [23:10] i am absolutely sure, schestowitz responded with a clean keyx response 2021-06-22, and then i didn't query you until 2021-09-06 [09:22] schestowitz [23:10] got this in my logs, on encrypted RAID, and this wasn't tampered with [09:22] schestowitz [23:11] though, i dropped the keyx peer-authentication after it was invalidated by yourself [09:22] schestowitz [23:13] oh [09:22] schestowitz [23:13] I see padlock now [09:22] schestowitz [23:13] +OK 70H6F.Ll8s40 [09:22] schestowitz [23:13] is that good? [09:22] schestowitz [23:13] +OK WRJNR1ovHTH.cHR0D1WDCaA0qQxq/.7/zp.1FJMRZ.ce4F..3MhQp/kPrlD. [09:22] schestowitz [23:13] +OK g4tUP1afZNn0VbK8q.F1xVr/XDXQb.RDWjc0 [09:22] schestowitz [23:14] +OK ebWEY1NeA/F0Vc0TC1xd/BM18oj1L/.IwIE0GTpeQ1oT6aL1J3mbX.sp9lh0JzFu3.J4/WR.GKR4o1SuDL1/sCqc./SVqmK/Cicq.0Q.LKy.6D1BF/TCXYR/4VUpG1KyJzE1tE7DX1VVYh0.GyFNY1dX4.L1 [09:22] schestowitz [23:14] +OK g4tUP1afZNn0oWpPF1KG7Qh.GV4qq.R7QaE1EKEIc.SD6uG10YA0J/PFzFI.LviyV0.phEU. [09:22] schestowitz [23:24] +OK SKIrL0lPHoD19NIbc1BJAGy1AI1j5/9CR2G/xJx1A.47YD8.MbMA9/Q275H/fxUPP.CXRIs.qRfqE/eC4hr0PwNLP0sGE5y1EzseI0cScrF1 [09:22] schestowitz [23:25] I see long hashes [09:22] schestowitz [23:25] or obfuscated things [09:22] schestowitz [23:26] +OK ZdwUn.a0rfc.o9sS71dLd90.vAxQA.fNtw11OCEli0QJYHy1A0jRa/g1XJf0x08bm0icqBa0 [09:22] schestowitz [23:29] +OK HuvId19R1j21RihLv/RAeo61 [09:22] schestowitz [23:32] 2021-09-24 22:25:21 | 22:13 -!- FiSH: Key for schestowitz@_techrights (ECB) successfully set! [09:22] schestowitz [23:32] 2021-09-24 22:25:21 | 22:13 > schestowitz , now i know [09:22] schestowitz [23:32] 2021-09-24 22:25:21 | 22:14 > keyx implemented some ECB mode, and i must explicitely request it, otherwise CBC is asked and fails [09:22] schestowitz [23:32] 2021-09-24 22:25:21 | 22:14 > schestowitz i want to try something else, ok? [09:22] schestowitz [23:32] 2021-09-24 22:25:21 | 22:24 > anyway, thanks for now. let me know if you got a minute to spare. [09:22] schestowitz [23:32] 2021-09-24 22:25:21 | 22:25 -!- Finished conversation with schestowitz [09:22] schestowitz [23:32] 2021-09-24 22:25:21 `---> [09:22] schestowitz [23:32] 2021-09-24 22:25:21 |CLIENTNOTICES| -!- Irssi: Starting query in _techrights with schestowitz [09:22] schestowitz [23:32] 2021-09-24 22:25:21 |MSGS| > I see long hashes [09:22] schestowitz [23:32] 2021-09-24 22:25:28 |MSGS| > or obfuscated things [09:22] schestowitz [23:32] 2021-09-24 22:26:53 |NO_ACT MSGS| > weird, i received your msg, correctly decoded [09:22] schestowitz [23:32] 2021-09-24 22:27:08 |CRAP| -!- FiSH: Key for schestowitz@_techrights: aAhgqWNwKg1XVMEqbweEbxFc2nh/0x2dLdPqlsD/qwA (ECB) [09:22] schestowitz [23:32] 2021-09-24 22:29:23 |NO_ACT MSGS| > still scrambled? [09:23] schestowitz [23:32] now it is OK [09:23] schestowitz [23:32] (e) and now [09:23] schestowitz [23:32] (e) ? [09:23] schestowitz [23:33] yes [09:23] schestowitz [23:33] I also see padlock [09:23] schestowitz [23:33] (e) sorry for the noise [09:23] schestowitz [23:34] it's OK [09:23] schestowitz [23:34] I need to learn these things anyway [09:23] schestowitz [23:34] (e) i would have liked to test the /setk part, because this was the one that crashed, which i fixed and it doesn't crash anymore [09:23] schestowitz [23:34] (e) cool [09:23] schestowitz [23:34] (e) ok [09:23] schestowitz [23:34] (e) 1. please go to xxxxx [09:23] schestowitz [23:35] (e) 2. /setkey test [09:23] schestowitz [23:35] (e) 3. say xxxxx ;) [09:23] schestowitz [23:35] (e) 4. /delkey ● Sep 26 [10:08] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:09] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:15] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techbytes [10:15] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techbytes [10:45] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:45] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:46] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techbytes [10:47] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Sep 26 [11:09] *DaemonFC (~DaemonFC@wrvs7xs7gk58s.irc) has joined #techbytes [11:10] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:10] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:29] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techbytes [11:30] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Sep 26 [12:04] *psydroid3 (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #techbytes [12:48] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:49] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:55] *blitzed has quit (connection closed) [12:55] *blitzed (~blitzed@z75jri9fg2z6g.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Sep 26 [13:04] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techbytes [13:04] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Sep 26 [14:22] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:22] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:37] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techbytes [14:37] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techbytes [14:52] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:53] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:54] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techbytes [14:55] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Sep 26 [15:37] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:38] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:49] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techbytes [15:50] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Sep 26 [16:25] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:26] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:28] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:30] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techbytes [16:31] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Sep 26 [18:40] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@fejhrc9gvt238.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Sep 26 [19:38] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:59] *DaemonFC (~DaemonFC@wz4jbpvyq7zf8.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Sep 26 [20:03] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:30] *DaemonFC (~DaemonFC@i5ibknkqyqj9e.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Sep 26 [21:00] *DaemonFC has quit (connection closed) [21:08] *DaemonFC (~DaemonFC@cka3bkb3dc9t6.irc) has joined #techbytes [21:31] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:40] *DaemonFC (~DaemonFC@8bpdhaada2if2.irc) has joined #techbytes [21:46] *ytagger (~ytagger@a234r2q8nki3n.irc) has joined #techbytes [21:49] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [21:58] *ytagger has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Sep 26 [22:00] *psydroid3 has quit (connection closed) [22:55] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@3wxf3gxu5tync.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Sep 26 [23:06] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:53] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@vbku88433t7ju.irc) has joined #techbytes