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schestowitz | > Give me 45 minutes, I'm working (on this.) | Jun 28 00:47 |
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schestowitz | > | Jun 28 00:47 |
schestowitz | > I'm not writing an article, just getting you slightly more complete data. Hence the timeframe. | Jun 28 00:47 |
schestowitz | > Hi, | Jun 28 00:48 |
schestowitz | > | Jun 28 00:48 |
schestowitz | > I hope to have something by end of day tomorrow (EST). | Jun 28 00:48 |
schestowitz | Excellent, cheers! | Jun 28 00:48 |
schestowitz | > Bison is based on GitHub (The Savannah repo is a mirror) though the Savannah URL doesn't redirect to GitHub. | Jun 28 00:51 |
schestowitz | > | Jun 28 00:51 |
schestowitz | > This is a notable exception, but this data may not mention every instance of GitHub hosting-- it should mention every instance of *redirect* to GitHub from a GNU project though. (I think I already got all of those, but I'm checking more thoroughly now.) | Jun 28 00:51 |
schestowitz | > | Jun 28 00:51 |
schestowitz | > Fribidi isn't listed, so you won't find it here again. (That statement contradicts itself. It was just mentioned.) The redirect to it is there. (This statement appears to contradict itself, but it is true nonetheless.) | Jun 28 00:51 |
schestowitz | > | Jun 28 00:51 |
schestowitz | > This is unrelated, but I found (clicking on pages for this task) a cute parody of Row, Row, Row Your Boat written by rms in 1969: | Jun 28 00:51 |
schestowitz | > | Jun 28 00:51 |
schestowitz | > Rho, rho, rho of X | Jun 28 00:51 |
schestowitz | > Always equals 1 | Jun 28 00:51 |
schestowitz | > Rho is dimension, rho rho rank. | Jun 28 00:51 |
schestowitz | > APL is fun! | Jun 28 00:51 |
schestowitz | > | Jun 28 00:52 |
schestowitz | > www.gnu.org/software/apl | Jun 28 00:52 |
schestowitz | > | Jun 28 00:52 |
schestowitz | > (Had to share that.) | Jun 28 00:52 |
schestowitz | > | Jun 28 00:52 |
schestowitz | > GNU Aspell is based at least partly (actively) on GitHub (again, this is not intended as a complete list of GNU projects that are. That was already published) *but there is no redirect yet.* I would not put this in the article-- we don't want to encourage them to create more of those (and help them do it.) | Jun 28 00:52 |
schestowitz | > | Jun 28 00:52 |
schestowitz | > GNU Autoconf Archive-- it is possible (says the GNU page) to submit pull requests via GitHub. TSK. *No automatic redirect* but this is notable. I may have mentioned it previously. This is just a sidenote. | Jun 28 00:52 |
schestowitz | > | Jun 28 00:52 |
schestowitz | > www.gnu.org/software/kopi redirects to sourceforge.net/projects/kopi -- this is rare and I noted it just to do so, but Savannah is actually a fork of SourceForge, from when it was free software. | Jun 28 00:52 |
schestowitz | > | Jun 28 00:52 |
schestowitz | > Another sidenote, check out www.gnu.org/software/polyxmass -- it says "For GNU to be a coherent system, we want all GNU packages to support GTK." The authors wanted to switch to Qt so they moved to a different project. I wasn't aware of this policy and I wonder if it is still enforced-- or it isn't: too bad GNU didn't feel the same way about systemd... | Jun 28 00:52 |
schestowitz | > | Jun 28 00:52 |
schestowitz | > The GNU Radio redirects to gnuradio.org, not the GitHub. The GitHub redirects aren't the only redirects, they're just the most notable. They all appear to be made from after Stallman left as well. I haven't found an exception to that yet. Mac Changer maybe (that was from before the acquisition.) I think the redirect was more recent though. | Jun 28 00:52 |
schestowitz | > | Jun 28 00:52 |
schestowitz | > www.gnu.org/software/recutils actually has a picture of turtles fucking. I mean it's softcore, they're showing it from an angle where the turtle could be wearing a "sock" (that's a filmmaking joke) but you've got to hand it to them (the GNU maintainers-- or the turtles, whatever you like.) Given how PC things are getting lately, this is kind of priceless. Nature shows will show more I think, but if anything should have fucking (as a | Jun 28 00:52 |
schestowitz | logo?) it's probably systemd or GNOME. (Gnomes fucking? Um...) | Jun 28 00:52 |
schestowitz | > | Jun 28 00:52 |
schestowitz | > GNU Websocket4J redirects to its launchpad.net page-- just to make clear that GitHub isn't the only repo being redirected to. We all consider GitHub to be special. | Jun 28 00:52 |
schestowitz | > | Jun 28 00:52 |
schestowitz | > GNU which redirects to carlowood.github.io but we already knew about that one. | Jun 28 00:52 |
schestowitz | > | Jun 28 00:52 |
schestowitz | > GNU cobol redirects to sourceforge.net/projects/open-cobol -- this is thrown in extra, we aren't listing all non-GitHub redirects. | Jun 28 00:52 |
schestowitz | > | Jun 28 00:52 |
schestowitz | > jwhois redirects to GitHub but we already knew about that one. | Jun 28 00:52 |
schestowitz | > | Jun 28 00:52 |
schestowitz | > I'm sorry guys, that's everything from the top of the list through Kawa. | Jun 28 00:52 |
schestowitz | > | Jun 28 00:52 |
schestowitz | > There's a few more to check and I'll check them now (and update you) but I think that's the only ones we are going to find. | Jun 28 00:52 |
schestowitz | > | Jun 28 00:52 |
schestowitz | > I don't think there were new ones. Cheers. | Jun 28 00:52 |
schestowitz | > | Jun 28 00:52 |
schestowitz | (Inconsequential update) | Jun 28 00:52 |
schestowitz | Thanks for that. All of these are news to me and probably to many others, so I think an interest in a report about this would be very high, not just in the short term but the long run. | Jun 28 00:55 |
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schestowitz | Unique design. Not round. | Jun 28 20:11 |
schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com | Jun 28 20:11 |
schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com - 12 months ago | Jun 28 20:11 |
schestowitz | #priorart | Jun 28 20:11 |
schestowitz | #patentevergreening | Jun 28 20:11 |
schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15356100#4af98d3081260137fe6f0cc47a07853c | Jun 28 20:11 |
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Hahaha. There's a US #patent on a #football (yes, #soccer ball). Dating back to... 1985!!! As if the ball was only 'invented' back then. https://patentlyo.com/patent/2019/07/world-holiday-weekend.html | Jun 28 20:11 | |
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> patentlyo.com | World Cup on a US Holiday Weekend | Patently-O | Jun 28 20:11 | |
schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/16184635#a4e5a6c0cbf5013709797a163ef10931 | Jun 28 20:12 |
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: ● NEWS ● #football #warcrimes ☞ Ellen DeGeneres Roasted for Attending Football Game With 'Absolute F***ing Scum' George W. #Bush https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/10/07/ellen-degeneres-roasted-attending-football-game-absolute-fing-scum-george-w-bush | Jun 28 20:12 | |
schestowitz | "Just another business transaction." | Jun 28 20:12 |
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.commondreams.org | Ellen DeGeneres Roasted for Attending Football Game With 'Absolute F***ing Scum' George W. Bush | Common Dreams News | Jun 28 20:12 | |
schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/16380248#4afa3740dd5001371e8f7a163ef10931 | Jun 28 20:13 |
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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: ● NEWS ● #copyright ☞ Millions of #UK #Football Fans Seem Confused About Piracy [sic] https://torrentfreak.com/millions-of-uk-football-fans-seem-confused-about-piracy/ | Jun 28 20:13 | |
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> torrentfreak.com | Millions of UK Football Fans Seem Confused About Piracy * TorrentFreak | Jun 28 20:13 | |
schestowitz | " | Jun 28 20:13 |
schestowitz | By the way: | Jun 28 20:13 |
schestowitz | Football games are not “works”, have no “authors” and thus are not “protected” (more correctly: monopolized) by copyright law. | Jun 28 20:13 |
schestowitz | They are a case of “privately extended copyright”, which is not based on copyright law but on contracts between signal providers and signal receivers. | Jun 28 20:13 |
schestowitz | This way even a temperature reading of a thermometer could be “protected” and the people getting access to it could be called “pirates”. | Jun 28 20:13 |
schestowitz | If you want to call it “piracy” it is not the people accessing the “pirate” site, which are pirating, but rather some contract partner has leaked the content and thus is the only party in breach of contract. At most the pirate site could be called a fence who profits from the breach of contract. (It’s all contract law, no public law involved.) | Jun 28 20:13 |
schestowitz | " | Jun 28 20:13 |
schestowitz | Good point | Jun 28 20:13 |
schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/17419581#de152d2046980138a0c600163e3b85e3 | Jun 28 20:13 |
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #nba now suspended due to #coronavirus and I think #football is also having its last days in #europe (for a while) | Jun 28 20:13 | |
schestowitz | "I waiting to see the riots LOL" | Jun 28 20:13 |
schestowitz | We saw them weeks ago | Jun 28 20:13 |
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schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/17454133#9e9fbfb0499b01388837124c77a41d08 | Jun 28 20:14 |
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: ● NEWS ● #truthdig #football #au ☞ A Giant Step Forward for Women in #Australia #Soccer https://www.truthdig.com/articles/a-giant-step-forward-for-women-in-australian-soccer/ | Jun 28 20:14 | |
schestowitz | " | Jun 28 20:14 |
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.truthdig.com | A Giant Step Forward for Women in Australian Soccer - Truthdig | Jun 28 20:14 | |
schestowitz | University of Faustin New Holland | Jun 28 20:14 |
schestowitz | Yes, the Nederlanders are the best soccer players on Earth. | Jun 28 20:14 |
schestowitz | But why, I don’t know yet. | Jun 28 20:14 |
schestowitz | Here the proof for the 😎Blinds WITH ALLAHAS SYSTEM. | Jun 28 20:14 |
schestowitz | " | Jun 28 20:14 |
schestowitz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRmJuiy_Y6w | Jun 28 20:14 |
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | YouTube | Jun 28 20:14 | |
schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15256941#748a713077f501377d857a163eb51328 | Jun 28 20:14 |
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Can't wait for #football to resume. Weekends boring without it.... | Jun 28 20:14 | |
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes- Photo by schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_388e4240432257ccfd62.jpg | Jun 28 20:14 | |
schestowitz | "" | Jun 28 20:14 |
schestowitz | " | Jun 28 20:14 |
schestowitz | huh? we’re being overloaded with football here: | Jun 28 20:14 |
schestowitz | women’s world cup, men’s america cup | Jun 28 20:14 |
schestowitz | " | Jun 28 20:14 |
schestowitz | It clogs up the brains | Jun 28 20:14 |
schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15176254#deda1c5070090137254a0cc47a07853c | Jun 28 20:15 |
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: In #spain the football oligarchs turned so-called 'phones' into #listeningdevices Not to catch terrorists. MUCH WORSE: people who watched a game without a licence! https://www.theverge.com/2019/6/12/18662968/la-liga-app-illegal-soccer-streaming-fine | Jun 28 20:15 | |
schestowitz | " | Jun 28 20:15 |
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.theverge.com | LaLiga’s app listened in on fans to catch bars illegally streaming soccer - The Verge | Jun 28 20:15 | |
schestowitz | hey its just like sony in 2005 (also the reason i havent purchased anything from sony in 14 years!) | Jun 28 20:15 |
schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_BMG_copy_protection_rootkit_scandal | Jun 28 20:15 |
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-en.wikipedia.org | Sony BMG copy protection rootkit scandal - Wikipedia | Jun 28 20:15 | |
schestowitz | " | Jun 28 20:15 |
schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/18456297#231371b09ba101389266101b0efced44 | Jun 28 20:15 |
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Corona will never walk alone in Liverpool. Dumb fans will spread it. #LFC | Jun 28 20:15 | |
schestowitz | "I know and it’s wrong of them. But it was inevitable. Perhaps the council should have put measures in beforehand." | Jun 28 20:15 |
schestowitz | I suppose so, like arranging for particular kinds of celebrations and providing free booze for these | Jun 28 20:16 |
schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/18442381#33e8a4109b8f0138b43e722ef41c0a88 | Jun 28 20:17 |
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@tomgrz@diasporing.ch reshared: ● NEWS ● #Salon #Surveillance ☞ Farewell to #privacy : #LindsayGraham unveils a bill that would make encryption useless https://www.salon.com/2020/06/25/farewell-to-privacy-lindsay-graham-unveils-a-bill-that-would-make-encryption-useless/ | Jun 28 20:17 | |
schestowitz | " | Jun 28 20:17 |
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.salon.com | Farewell to privacy: Lindsay Graham unveils a bill that would make encryption useless | Salon.com | Jun 28 20:17 | |
schestowitz | 19 | Jun 28 20:17 |
schestowitz | freelabs federation | Jun 28 20:17 |
schestowitz | freelabs federation - 3 days ago | Jun 28 20:17 |
schestowitz | he might not be so obsessed with destroying privacy if he would just fucking come out of the closet already. | Jun 28 20:17 |
schestowitz | tomgrz | Jun 28 20:17 |
schestowitz | tomgrz - 3 days ago | Jun 28 20:17 |
schestowitz | Something goin’ on with him. But I think virtually all of those guys have something to hide… | Jun 28 20:17 |
schestowitz | Phil Landmeier (ᚠ) | Jun 28 20:17 |
schestowitz | Phil Landmeier (ᚠ) - 3 days ago | Jun 28 20:17 |
schestowitz | @tomgrz You know, we’re going to have to start electing leaders who are technologists, like Al Gore, and not lawyers. These people are legislating in an arena they flat don’t understand. | Jun 28 20:17 |
schestowitz | You cannot have back doors, period. If a backdoor exists, the system is by definition untrustworthy and nobody will use it. This is a good way to crash to economy by making it impossible for online businesses and banking to take place. And in the end, nothing stops me from using hard encryption for my own purposes. I can roll my own if need be. | Jun 28 20:17 |
schestowitz | And what are they thinking in terms of worldwide commerce and communications? This would isolate the USA because whatever backdoored system is created would obviously be banned in the EU and everyplace else. | Jun 28 20:17 |
schestowitz | tomgrz | Jun 28 20:17 |
schestowitz | tomgrz - 3 days ago | Jun 28 20:17 |
schestowitz | I can roll my own if need be. | Jun 28 20:17 |
schestowitz | You know what the next step will be? | Jun 28 20:17 |
schestowitz | tomgrz | Jun 28 20:17 |
schestowitz | tomgrz - 3 days ago | Jun 28 20:17 |
schestowitz | And what are they thinking in terms of worldwide commerce and communications? This would isolate the USA because whatever backdoored system is created would obviously be banned in the EU and everyplace else. | Jun 28 20:17 |
schestowitz | That is an interesting point. But then they do already let us get away with the NSA monitoring virtually all digital communications. | Jun 28 20:17 |
schestowitz | mfierst | Jun 28 20:18 |
schestowitz | mfierst - 2 days ago | Jun 28 20:18 |
schestowitz | The Chinese would love it! | Jun 28 20:18 |
schestowitz | Boris B | Jun 28 20:18 |
schestowitz | Boris B - 2 days ago | Jun 28 20:18 |
schestowitz | Lesser evil is the juvenile form of next-generation greater evil. | Jun 28 20:18 |
schestowitz | Phil Landmeier (ᚠ) | Jun 28 20:18 |
schestowitz | Phil Landmeier (ᚠ) - 2 days ago | Jun 28 20:18 |
schestowitz | @tomgrz The NSA is authorized to monitor all communications originating or arriving in the USA. This has always been the case since the 1940s. All international phone calls, everything. But if the communications have been encrypted, all they get is IP addresses. The content is hidden. They can monitor all they want and pretty much 100 percent monitoring of Internet communication began in 1994. I was there. ;-) In the USA, everything is | Jun 28 20:18 |
schestowitz | monitored, starting with all the backbones. But if the content is end-to-end encrypted, there’s not much they can do with so much traffic. | Jun 28 20:18 |
schestowitz | An individual message chosen for cracking is likely to be cracked. The NSA has unbelievably powerful classified systems for doing this, but it’s only applied in cases that can deliver useful paydirt. They can’t decrypt 50 million messages per second, nor would they want to. Most traffic is entirely boring. The NSA is not interested in your bank balance or how big your dick is, they care about national security threats. | Jun 28 20:18 |
schestowitz | Carsten Raddatz (劉愷恩) | Jun 28 20:18 |
schestowitz | Carsten Raddatz (劉愷恩) - 2 days ago | Jun 28 20:18 |
schestowitz | So, the Clipper Chip discussion makes a comeback? I had so hoped we’d be beyond that… otoh the very thing does keep cropping up in Germany as well every now and then, with regional leadership aiming at the lower minds and their votes. :/ | Jun 28 20:18 |
schestowitz | Bob Lai | Jun 28 20:18 |
schestowitz | Bob Lai - 2 days ago | Jun 28 20:18 |
schestowitz | This Chekist nonsense always has exceptions for those in power. It doesn’t matter if the transcript of a call where the president tried to extort a quid pro quo from Ukraine’s Volodymyr Zelenskiy exists, it’s ‘classifed’ and protected by ‘executive privilege.’ | Jun 28 20:18 |
schestowitz | But you and me? If we want to enjoy privacy, we’re ‘aiding terrorists.’ | Jun 28 20:18 |
schestowitz | Boris B | Jun 28 20:18 |
schestowitz | Boris B - 2 days ago | Jun 28 20:18 |
schestowitz | If AI can’t come up on its own with similar observations of blatant double standards, maybe it could be trained to recognize accurate statements of them… with accuracy… | Jun 28 20:18 |
schestowitz | Makes the plot of an intriguing dystopa where AI would be tasked with supressing accurate observations of blatant double standards. | Jun 28 20:18 |
schestowitz | Raises a question though, can’t there be to suppressing inaccurate observations of blatant double standards worth enough that not suppressing accurate ones here or there becomes subsidiary? | Jun 28 20:18 |
schestowitz | tomgrz | Jun 28 20:18 |
schestowitz | tomgrz - 2 days ago | Jun 28 20:18 |
schestowitz | The NSA is authorized to monitor all communications originating or arriving in the USA. This has always been the case since the 1940s. All international phone calls, everything. But if the communications have been encrypted, all they get is IP addresses. The content is hidden. | Jun 28 20:18 |
schestowitz | That’s what the supercomputers are for. But point well taken - they are very expensive and still take too much time. Only a few communications can be handled that way… | Jun 28 20:18 |
schestowitz | Boris B | Jun 28 20:18 |
schestowitz | Boris B - 2 days ago | Jun 28 20:18 |
schestowitz | To return to Bob’s more apparent point – is power in general describable as who gets to decide that a conversation is private or public? | Jun 28 20:18 |
schestowitz | tomgrz | Jun 28 20:18 |
schestowitz | tomgrz - a day ago | Jun 28 20:18 |
schestowitz | The obvious answer is indicated in that we do not. | Jun 28 20:18 |
schestowitz | Phil Landmeier (ᚠ) | Jun 28 20:18 |
schestowitz | Phil Landmeier (ᚠ) - a day ago | Jun 28 20:18 |
schestowitz | @tomgrz Actually, I misspoke. In the interest of total accuracy: the NSA has always been authorized to monitor all INTERNATIONAL communications – those that pass across our borders. They are expressly NOT authorized to monitor communications that do not cross our borders. However, in practice, everything is monitored. Hahaha. The NSA and FBI use the same hardware. One agency monitors international traffic, the other domestic traffic. | Jun 28 20:18 |
schestowitz | Everything gets vacuumed up, checked against watchlists, keyword searched. If something is a trigger, then it’s cross-checked against other things you’re doing. | Jun 28 20:18 |
schestowitz | So, on the one hand, they, or their computers, know everything there is to know about you. On the other hand, there’s no reason to become paranoid about it. They really don’t care about you unless you are an actual identified threat, an active and dangerous subversive. You have to get way out there to get on the radar. If you’re talking about blowing something up AND searching for sources for explosive materials, yeah, you’ll | Jun 28 20:18 |
schestowitz | get on the radar. And frankly, that’s fine with me. | Jun 28 20:18 |
schestowitz | Bob Lai | Jun 28 20:18 |
schestowitz | Bob Lai - a day ago | Jun 28 20:19 |
schestowitz | Back when I had a blog, someone from the domain nsa.gov visited. I must have said a naughty word or something, probably ‘terrorism.’ (My posts were pretty much as they are now, a news story and my opinion.) | Jun 28 20:19 |
schestowitz | tomgrz | Jun 28 20:19 |
schestowitz | tomgrz - about 2 hours ago | Jun 28 20:19 |
schestowitz | So, on the one hand, they, or their computers, know everything there is to know about you. On the other hand, there’s no reason to become paranoid about it. They really don’t care about you unless you are an actual identified threat, an active and dangerous subversive. | Jun 28 20:19 |
schestowitz | That could be a very temporary condition. | Jun 28 20:19 |
schestowitz | tomgrz | Jun 28 20:19 |
schestowitz | tomgrz - about 2 hours ago | Jun 28 20:19 |
schestowitz | Kinda like military weapons. The possibility and temptation is to use them - partly to justify their existence (and cost). | Jun 28 20:19 |
schestowitz | tomgrz | Jun 28 20:19 |
schestowitz | tomgrz - about 2 hours ago | Jun 28 20:19 |
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