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schestowitz>> Thoughts?Feb 29 03:05
schestowitz> Ordinarily I don't care about OSI. The only thing that makes this novel is that they're doing it to themselves instead of us.Feb 29 03:05
schestowitz>Feb 29 03:05
schestowitz> There's a story, but for someone who has the years of context leading up to it, it's a bit anti-climactic. I think your readers would find it interesting, but you are following this story more closely than I am. You can certainly argue that it fits the broader pattern. I would. I didn't really read the stuff, I simply looked for relevance and turned it over to you when I found something that looked so much like what you were lookingFeb 29 03:05
schestowitzfor. If you have time to write about it, I think you'd do a better job on this one than anybody else.Feb 29 03:05
schestowitzTo be seen as defending ESR would not be good.Feb 29 03:05
schestowitzSome of his  blog posts in recent years merit some scolding.Feb 29 03:05
schestowitzRe: masnick, lessigFeb 29 03:05
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/grahamperrin/status/1233628557617827842Feb 29 06:04
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@grahamperrin: @schestowitz "… I took time off. I made sure to keep security patches and pull requests going – but I gave myself p… https://t.co/ZZqybdPT6WFeb 29 06:04
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@grahamperrin: @schestowitz "… I took time off. I made sure to keep security patches and pull requests going – but I gave myself p… https://t.co/ZZqybdPT6WFeb 29 06:04
schestowitz"Feb 29 06:04
schestowitz"… I took time off. I made sure to keep security patches and pull requests going – but I gave myself proper time off for the first time in 9 years.Feb 29 06:04
schestowitz"To the paranoid – a conspiracy. To everyone else, a (well earned?) rest. …"Feb 29 06:04
schestowitz"Feb 29 06:04
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/grahamperrin/status/1233608418667171840Feb 29 06:05
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@grahamperrin: @schestowitz More remarkable: the unkindness of the overly-suspicious cynic who led the 'exposure'. Whilst the ini… https://t.co/IMpcp20QGfFeb 29 06:05
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@grahamperrin: @schestowitz More remarkable: the unkindness of the overly-suspicious cynic who led the 'exposure'. Whilst the ini… https://t.co/IMpcp20QGfFeb 29 06:05
schestowitz"Feb 29 06:05
schestowitzMore remarkable: the unkindness of the overly-suspicious cynic who led the 'exposure'.Feb 29 06:05
schestowitzWhilst the initial distress that she caused might have been unintentional, her later twisting was – I believe – quite shameful; she unapologetically promoted a non-truth – a false statement.Feb 29 06:05
schestowitz"Feb 29 06:05
schestowitzI still don't know which story/link you refer toFeb 29 06:05
schestowitz>> To be seen as defending ESR would not be good. Some of his blog posts in recent years merit some scolding.Feb 29 08:04
schestowitz> I dont get the double standard here. Dishonestly censoring people is dishonestly censoring people. Europeans often don't get left libertarians, they don't get the idea of voluntary socialism and assume it's a Koch brothers scam.Feb 29 08:04
schestowitz>Feb 29 08:04
schestowitz> There are no left Republicans (except Barry Goldwater) but there are left libertarians. And they are very at home in the free software movement. Where people voluntarily collaborate on what amounts to shared wealth.Feb 29 08:04
schestowitz>Feb 29 08:04
schestowitz> ESR is a right libertarian, but left libertarians and right libertarians get along far better than left authoritarians and right authoritarians. I don't think ESR's blog posts are so terrible-- UNLESS we hold him to a different standard than Stallman.Feb 29 08:04
schestowitz>Feb 29 08:04
schestowitz> I don't think ESR is a good person, compared to Stallman. But that's a very high bar. I think ESR is a bit of a scumbag really. But I don't think he's as awful as you probably think, nor for the same reasons.Feb 29 08:04
schestowitz>Feb 29 08:04
schestowitz> Attacking censorship and defending ESR are obviously 2 different things to a reasonable person. If you're against censorship, and you tell people that free speech isn't to protect likable people, but everyone else, I would tell you the same. Free speech isn't to protect people you like and respect-- it's to protect those you don't. Because not everybody feels the same, and leaving it up to their fickle whims hurts everyone, or tooFeb 29 08:04
schestowitzmany. So we don't leave it up to their whims.Feb 29 08:04
schestowitz>Feb 29 08:05
schestowitz> I defend ESR against cancellation for the same reason I defend Stallman-- because the principle doesn't differ at all. I defend the right of Nazis to speak because cancelling people hurts the way the internet works, and it is unconstituional. Europeans can fiddle with their concept of free speech wily-nily, but the First Amendment doesn't allow us to make exceptions for being "hateful" or whatever. The Supreme Court ruled on thatFeb 29 08:05
schestowitzalready. So we come from different worlds on this-- sometimes. For a Brit, you seem to get free speech more than average.Feb 29 08:05
schestowitz>Feb 29 08:05
schestowitz> But perhaps you're thinking of the fact that ESR talks about sex with people that are 16 and 17 from a libertarian point of view. In the state where the FSF is located, and in quite a few states both north and south of the Mason Dixon line, 16 is the legal age in this matter. So the fact that it's rape (because legal consent is deemed impossible) from one state line to another is exactly the sort of ARBITRARY line that libertariansFeb 29 08:05
schestowitzrail against. Arbitrary rules tend to be enforced with discrimination-- the goal of every libertarian is to eliminate stupid laws and replace only the needed ones with less stupid versions. It isn't a moral crime to talk about that topic-- it is an ethical obligation. That's why people talk about it.Feb 29 08:05
schestowitz>Feb 29 08:05
schestowitz> There is an important british example of this, relevant to discrimination against homosexuals. There was a great song in the 80s by Bronski Beat called "run away" or "runaway." The album was called "Age of Consent."Feb 29 08:05
schestowitz>Feb 29 08:05
schestowitz> This refers to the fact that in Britain, the age of consent was 16 for females or straight relationships-- just like in many of the states in the USA, but it was 18 or 21 for men or gays. I'd have to look up which.Feb 29 08:05
schestowitz>Feb 29 08:05
schestowitz>Feb 29 08:05
schestowitz> But the upshot is that if you were straight, you could be with a girl that was a year or two younger, and if you were gay it was considered rape and you could do time for it.Feb 29 08:05
schestowitz>Feb 29 08:05
schestowitz> Some people focus on the age of 16 part. Others focus on the arbitrary stupidity.Feb 29 08:05
schestowitz>Feb 29 08:05
schestowitz> I think it's dangerously foolish to let your personal feelings force you to focus on the first part and ignore the second-- and the precedent setting, because both the British constitution and the American one are based on precedents-- hopefully more than personal feelings.Feb 29 08:05
schestowitz>Feb 29 08:05
schestowitz> The age was moved for one group in order to persecute them. For some reason, libertarians grasp that and the rest of the left frequently doesn't-- even when it's a British LGBT issue, they mistake it for an American rightwing issue. And then you tell me it's not about wings (which is true, but context is everything.)Feb 29 08:05
schestowitz>Feb 29 08:05
schestowitz> Most of the world, including "developed nations" puts the age at 16, at least until recently. As society grows less mature, we keep making it so you have to be older and older to make the same decisions as before.Feb 29 08:05
schestowitz>Feb 29 08:05
schestowitz> Perhaps that's what we should do. But to make it a moral crime to simply discuss the matter-- that's not just stupid. It's fucking dumb as fuck, and it undermines the entire point of democracy. If we can't discuss the arbitrary stupidity of laws, then we simply put laws back into the hands of theocracy and accept rule by neo-Victorians-- those are exactly the people who cancelled Stallman and who ousted Torvalds.Feb 29 08:05
schestowitz>Feb 29 08:05
schestowitz> That's why ESR rarely offends me. His hypocrisy and jealousy and double standards for geeks (he must think he's a cooler geek than Stallman, and therefore a higher-ranking geek, which is nonsense) offends me, due to the stupidity and shallowness and damage it does to geekdom-- but the rest is just rightwing libertarianism that I grew used to ages ago.Feb 29 08:05
schestowitz>Feb 29 08:05
schestowitz> I can't make you consistent, I can't make your decisions. But if you deviate from the way you treat Stallman because you don't like ESR, I for one will not fully understand why. I would consider it a weakness in judgment and a foolish deviation from principle. But nobody is perfect, and we think about our own principles differently. We can't agree on everything, of course.Feb 29 08:05
schestowitz>Feb 29 08:05
schestowitz> Then again-- you weren't very specific, so I had to guess.Feb 29 08:05
schestowitz>Feb 29 08:05
schestowitz> No worries-- cheers.Feb 29 08:05
schestowitzI think the above rant is based largely on a misunderstanding.Feb 29 08:05
schestowitzI believe in ridicule.Feb 29 08:05
schestowitzIt's an extension or kind of free speech.Feb 29 08:05
schestowitzSome ESR blog posts do merit ridicule, even in the open.Feb 29 08:05
schestowitzThat's free speech.Feb 29 08:05
schestowitzShould he be silenced?Feb 29 08:05
schestowitzNo.Feb 29 08:05
schestowitzDid I say he should be?Feb 29 08:05
schestowitzNo.Feb 29 08:05
schestowitzI am thinking ahead of possible reaction from people when we air he message, that is all.Feb 29 08:06
schestowitzI also need to think how to present it so that nobody will attribute his words to ours.Feb 29 08:06
schestowitzCheers :-)Feb 29 08:06
schestowitz> I do of course, think that ESR is guilty of the same things that were done to him recently.Feb 29 08:15
schestowitz>Feb 29 08:15
schestowitz> From a smaller perspective, he deserves that. But we get to decide, on a personal level, if lynch mobs are "ok" when they go after people we don't think deserve protection.Feb 29 08:15
schestowitz>Feb 29 08:15
schestowitz> The problem with that, is that it undermines our argument about lynch mobs not being ok in the first place. And I don't think consistency on that matter is foolish. The argument that "this dishonest lynching is wrong because the whole idea is wrong" but "this one is ok" is extremely weak. But we get to decide if we prefer an extremely weak argument, or a strong one. I'm going to go with what I think is the latter.Feb 29 08:15
schestowitzSee comments:Feb 29 08:15
schestowitz https://placeholderapi.wordpress.com/2020/02/28/esr-message-toFeb 29 08:15
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-placeholderapi.wordpress.com | #esr message to #osi — the one that got him banned — I cannot fin… | Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊)Feb 29 08:15
schestowitz> Finally, if you think ESR's blog posts demand a scolding, then the most logical time to do that was when you found them worthy of that.Feb 29 08:16
schestowitz>Feb 29 08:16
schestowitz> To wait until there's a lynch mob and say "plus, by the way, he deserves this because..." is far, far too close to what happened to Stallman. And what happened to Stallman was bullshit.Feb 29 08:16
schestowitz>Feb 29 08:16
schestowitz> There are two kinds of dishonesty-- one is deliberate and with knowledge, the other is with yourself. You won't find me calling you a liar, but if you think NOW is some ideal time to protest ESR's personal politics, I find it terribly dubious. That sort of political justification is exactly the sort of thing that people who value honesty should always try to rise higher than. If it comes out in a rant, involuntarily, I can't hold itFeb 29 08:16
schestowitzagainst you. If it comes out after careful thinking-- maybe rethink.Feb 29 08:16
schestowitzI was going to neither defend not attack him, just show what OSI is censoring for people to decide if physical threats were, indeed, insinuated.Feb 29 08:16
schestowitz*norFeb 29 08:16
*tedbox is now known as roy-older-boxFeb 29 08:19
schestowitz>>> Could that be one of the reasons that Arjen was offed?  Various agenciesFeb 29 08:22
schestowitz>>> have been exploiting fringe groups to infiltrate and undermine FOSSFeb 29 08:22
schestowitz>>> projects.Feb 29 08:22
schestowitz>> I don't know.Feb 29 08:22
schestowitz>>Feb 29 08:22
schestowitz>> I have not even seen his messages yet.Feb 29 08:22
schestowitz> It will be interesting if the topic of the messages overlaps with ESR'sFeb 29 08:22
schestowitz> ejection from OSI.  Perens is out too, apparently.Feb 29 08:22
schestowitzEarly january.Feb 29 08:22
schestowitz>>  https://placeholderapi.wordpress.com/2020/02/28/esr-message-toFeb 29 08:23
schestowitz> He was neither diplomatic nor offensive.  However, he did touch on whatFeb 29 08:23
schestowitz> I was guessing about regarding infiltration and destruction of FOSSFeb 29 08:23
schestowitz> projects.  What is ESD in that context?Feb 29 08:23
schestowitzI was only guessing "ethical software def"Feb 29 08:23
schestowitz> That leads to this one:Feb 29 08:55
schestowitz>Feb 29 08:55
schestowitz> https://fsfellowship.eu/gnu-censors-the-united-nations-report-cybertorture-rms/Feb 29 08:55
schestowitz>Feb 29 08:55
schestowitz> So the FSF is now staunchly in favor of Internet lynchings,Feb 29 08:55
schestowitz> psychological torture and inhumane behaviour.Feb 29 08:55
schestowitzI have just quoted you on it, albeit only in a 'tweet'Feb 29 08:55
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-fsfellowship.eu | GNU mailing lists censor United Nations report on Cybertorture and RMSFeb 29 08:55
schestowitzI try not to say negative things about FSF at the moment, as it might not be too late to still save it (we try).Feb 29 08:55
schestowitz>>> Yes, crushing mortgages, crushing student debt, and the risk of crushingFeb 29 09:02
schestowitz>>> medical debt make people into obedient slaves by preventing evenFeb 29 09:02
schestowitz>>> consideration of choice.  And that ties it too closely to politics inFeb 29 09:02
schestowitz>>> Western countries.  Medical professions and engineers have actualFeb 29 09:02
schestowitz>>> professional ethical requirements.  The imposition of M$ in place of ICTFeb 29 09:02
schestowitz>>>  will be the biggest reason that programmers will have very greatFeb 29 09:02
schestowitz>>> difficulties in adopting professional ethics.  The other reason is whatFeb 29 09:02
schestowitz>>> ever is on the lower layers of these attacks against the FOSS projects,Feb 29 09:02
schestowitz>>> as we see with the removal of various leaders and founders.Feb 29 09:02
schestowitz>> Maybe we can guess who's next.... it's all happening so fast.Feb 29 09:02
schestowitz> Larry Wall is probably on the short list.  I wish him success fendingFeb 29 09:02
schestowitz> off the attacks and continued focus on language hacking instead.  OtherFeb 29 09:02
schestowitz> than that, it is starting to get down to a matter of who is left.Feb 29 09:02
roy-older-boxhttps://twitter.com/grahamperrin/status/1233628557617827842Feb 29 09:11
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@grahamperrin: @schestowitz "… I took time off. I made sure to keep security patches and pull requests going – but I gave myself p… https://t.co/ZZqybdPT6WFeb 29 09:11
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@grahamperrin: @schestowitz "… I took time off. I made sure to keep security patches and pull requests going – but I gave myself p… https://t.co/ZZqybdPT6WFeb 29 09:11
roy-older-box"Feb 29 09:11
roy-older-box"… I took time off. I made sure to keep security patches and pull requests going – but I gave myself proper time off for the first time in 9 years.Feb 29 09:11
roy-older-box"To the paranoid – a conspiracy. To everyone else, a (well earned?) rest. …"Feb 29 09:11
roy-older-box"Feb 29 09:11
roy-older-boxhttps://twitter.com/grahamperrin/status/1233636302337314816Feb 29 09:11
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@grahamperrin: @schestowitz The quote appeared in your Techrights post (link above)Feb 29 09:11
roy-older-boxWaterfox should be avoided, it sold out big time, in secret, to a spying giantFeb 29 09:11
schestowitzsource (anoned)Feb 29 10:47
schestowitz> Do you want to discuss RMS/MIT? Respectfully, I promise...Feb 29 10:47
schestowitzI'd love to, but there's very very little I could tell you that youFeb 29 10:47
schestowitzcould publish without making it reasonably obvious that it came from me,Feb 29 10:47
schestowitzgiving those who set out to destroy RMS and then me more excuses andFeb 29 10:47
schestowitzreasons to fry me.Feb 29 10:47
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schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2020/02/breaking-news-uk-will-not-participate.html?showComment=1582918510393#c8531268839932839758Feb 29 17:08
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2020/02/breaking-news-uk-will-not-participate.html?showComment=1582918510393#c8531268839932839758Feb 29 17:08
schestowitzBeside the complaint against the UPC, there are no less than four complaints about the independence of the Boards of Appeal of the EPO before the FCC.Feb 29 17:08
schestowitzIt might be the best moment to care for the true independence of the Boards, and not just merely look at improving the perception of their independence...Feb 29 17:08
schestowitzThis would certainly be more of a benefit for European industry and European SMEs than a monster like the UPC. It is high time to bring life into Art 4a EPC2000. Now or never. And should the president of the EPO do not like such a conference, he should simply go back where he came from.Feb 29 17:08
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Breaking news: UK will not participate in UPC system - The IPKatFeb 29 17:08
schestowitz"Feb 29 17:08
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2020/02/breaking-news-uk-will-not-participate.html?showComment=1582877895697#c6967448723937502333Feb 29 17:13
schestowitz"Feb 29 17:13
schestowitzThe decision of the UK government does not come as surprise for those who were realistic enough to not take any utterance of the proponents of the continued participation of post-Brexit UK in the UPC for anything else than wishful thinking.Feb 29 17:13
schestowitzWhat have Mr Pors, Mooney, Tillman and co to say now? Any twisted interpretation of Opinion C 1/09 allowing the stay of post-Brexit UK in the UPC has been shattered by the decision of the UK government.Feb 29 17:13
schestowitzAs London is mentioned expressis verbis in the UPCA there is no other way than to open the negotiations for transferring the London section to another location.Feb 29 17:13
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Breaking news: UK will not participate in UPC system - The IPKatFeb 29 17:13
schestowitzIt should be the opportunity to change the stupid decision locating the “Central Division” in three different places. The EPO being in Munich, the Central Division should logically be in Paris. But logic and politics are not really compatible.Feb 29 17:13
schestowitzWe have not heard the end of the UPC saga, but it’s future looks bleak.Feb 29 17:13
schestowitzIn any case it means reopening the negotiations and re ratifying the whole agreement. I therefore take bets that, should it ever come into force, it will not be before 2031 at best. The FCC can happily wait until there is a new UPCA. No need to hurry a decision in view of the situation created by the UK decision.Feb 29 17:13
schestowitzThe irony is that the UPC has been strongly inspired by the UK procedure, and now UK will not participate!Feb 29 17:13
schestowitzIt is now time to rethink the whole system and to come up with a better one! There are too many approximations and problems in the UPCA so that it is high time to come up with something really helping European industry and European SMES and not just companies, mainly extra European, having on top very deep pockets.Feb 29 17:13
schestowitzWhere there is will there might be a way, but now we know there is no will from the side of UK.Feb 29 17:13
schestowitzThe UPC might not be as dead as the famous parrot in Monthy Python, but pulling the plug of life maintaining statements is now a real option.Feb 29 17:13
schestowitzDe profundis UPC. Rest in peace!Feb 29 17:13
schestowitz"Feb 29 17:13
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2020/02/breaking-news-uk-will-not-participate.html?showComment=1582885067266#c8419719009609182156Feb 29 17:14
schestowitz"Feb 29 17:14
schestowitzOnce again, an extremely useful write up from Rose Hughes, which sets me thinking.Feb 29 17:14
schestowitzI don't do chem/bio but for me, claiming medical devices, the chance of inadvertently and despite my best efforts falling into the Art 123(2)/(3) inescapable trap during EPO prosecution are higher than they should be, and getting ever higher. Hence, the advice to a client, to have a divisional pending as one goes through the opposition period is well-taken.Feb 29 17:14
schestowitzSpoken about here are divisionals with "virtually identical" claims. Not unusual, if we are talking about avoiding the EPO's inescapable trap, with its ever more bizarre and unworldly assessments under the (no joke) "Gold Standard". A change of one word can escape the trap, without changing the substance of the subject matter claimed.Feb 29 17:14
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Breaking news: UK will not participate in UPC system - The IPKatFeb 29 17:14
schestowitzI think that the root of the problem lies in the word "derivable". It means one thing to me but something else entirely to many Examiners and Technical Members at the EPO. Could it be that the EPO has a special difficulty with Art 123(2) EPC, not found in other Patent Offices and courts, because examination at the EPO is carried out by Examiners with a first language other than the language of the proceedings: it results in themFeb 29 17:14
schestowitzconcentrating excessively on the letter of the wording of one phrase or sentence of the specification, and not enough on the overall teaching, delivered to the notional skilled technical reader by the specification as a whole. After all, the reader is deemed to be technically skilled and to be reading the document with a mind willing to understand, and hungry to learn all they can from the written content of the document.Feb 29 17:14
schestowitzCompare, for example, two recent TBA Decisions, T1442/16 and T524/17, on what the skilled reader makes of a paragraph of disclosure that opens with the words "In an embodiment....." What is "derivable" from such a statement? The way I see it, the Rapporteur of the one Board is (bravo) present in the real world and is alive to the issue while the other hasn't even begun to think the issue through, instead merely trotting out the unrealFeb 29 17:14
schestowitzand unrealistic EPO "party line".Feb 29 17:14
schestowitz"Feb 29 17:14
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2020/02/nothing-to-see-here-lilly-wins-in_26.html?showComment=1582739966479#c573026941478717566Feb 29 17:14
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Nothing to see here, Lilly wins in kicking out Genentech's Talz progeny patent (for now) - The IPKatFeb 29 17:15
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2010/07/schlumberger-v-emgs-non-obvious.html?showComment=1582984170937#c1784259248580553959Feb 29 17:16
schestowitz"Took me time to read all the comments, but I really enjoyed the article. It proved to be Very helpful to me and I am sure to all the commenters here! It’s always nice when you can not only be informed, but also entertained! daftar togel"Feb 29 17:16
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Schlumberger v EMGS: A Non-Obvious Marriage of Skills - The IPKatFeb 29 17:16
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2020/02/trade-mark-opposition-decisions-in.html?showComment=1582805517836#c4799226621098598673Feb 29 17:16
schestowitz"Does anyone know if there is an official Chinese trademark search tool? It used to be this one, but it doesn't work anymore: http://wsjs.saic.gov.cn/"Feb 29 17:16
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Trade Mark Opposition Decisions in China are Now Public Online - The IPKatFeb 29 17:16
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schestowitzhttp://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2020/02/29/is-the-unitary-patent-system-worthwhile-without-the-uk/#commentsFeb 29 17:18
schestowitz"Feb 29 17:18
schestowitzIt does not come as the surprise that Mr Mooney is disappointed. For him and all the British members who sat in the co-opted Committee drafting as a closed party the Rules of Procedure, the result on investment is nil, and this is always hard to accept. The non-British members of this committee can still hope that their result on investment not to be nil, but without UK, it will certainly be lower than expected should the UPC come toFeb 29 17:18
schestowitzlife, which anything but certain.Feb 29 17:18
schestowitzEurope might have “needed a new patent system for 50 years”, but certainly not something like the UPC. That European Industry needs the UPC is only the opinion of people like Mr Mooney, but certainly not of those having had a look at what is really needed in Europe.Feb 29 17:18
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | Is the Unitary Patent system worthwhile without the UK? - Kluwer Patent BlogFeb 29 17:18
schestowitzThe birth defect of the UPCA is that it is not binding for all member states of the EU. Some countries might have signed, but will never ratify. Some have or will ratify, but they have been lured in with the promise of some function located there, e.g. arbitration chambers. No wonder why some countries will not ratify as it will be detrimental to their industry. Poland and the Czech Republic might not be the only ones.Feb 29 17:19
schestowitzWhat might be needed in Europe is a treaty which does not grossly favours big countries, with big industries having very deep pockets, but which is also useful for smaller ones. Only then a true IP cooperation within the EU could be achieved. But the number of true supranational cases is so little that the necessity of such a monster like the UPC is only for those thinking of filling their pockets with lawyer fees and squeezing out SMEsFeb 29 17:19
schestowitzIt is good that the complaint before the FCC has put the progress of the UPC to a halt. It has given the opportunity to look at it very carefully, and to realise how badly it has been conceived beside for those who intended to profit from it.Feb 29 17:19
schestowitzHow can a judge at the UPC be independent if he can be removed from office by a mere decision of the Presidium of the UPC, but at the same time no means of redress are opened to him? The same applies to the re-appointment of judges. What will be the criterion applied? Those are a real constitutional problems and it is to be hoped that the FCC will look into it them.Feb 29 17:19
schestowitzRather than dwelling on the UPCA, it would be much better if the FCC would look at the complaints about the independence of the Boards of Appeal of the EPO. There are no less than four complaints about this topic before the FCC.Feb 29 17:19
schestowitzIt might be the best moment to care for the true independence of the Boards, and not just merely look at improving the perception of their independence…Feb 29 17:19
schestowitzThis would certainly be more of a benefit for European industry and European SMEs than a monster like the UPC. It is also high time to bring life into Art 4a EPC2000. Now or never. And should any president of the EPO not like such a conference, he should simply go back where he came from.Feb 29 17:19
schestowitzIt should not be forgotten that after all EPC members states, that is also member states of the EU, have the same IP law, as it is based on the UPC. One good way to bring in harmonisation with respect to the validity is to bring IP judges from all over Europe together regularly. Such meetings are already taking place and they should be pursued and reinforced.Feb 29 17:19
schestowitzOn the other hand, subsidiarity is also something which should be kept in mind within the EU, and if a few decisions of national courts are at odds with decisions of the Boards of Appeal, does this really harm and bring about legal uncertainty? Not in my humble opinion. But adding an extra layer of case law in the hope that it will be valid for all, even the EPO, is truly increasing legal uncertainty.Feb 29 17:19
schestowitzOne way of deciding in a uniform way over all member states of the EPC is to keep open the possibility of filing an opposition for the whole life of the patent, and not merely for nine months after grant. But for this we need truly independent Boards of Appeal and certainly not examining and opposition divisions just focused on figures and a quick turnover of files.Feb 29 17:19
schestowitzInfringement could remain national, and there is no need to have one system to fit all. There are very few truly supranational litigation cases, and the companies involved in them have deep enough pockets to afford the extra costs.Feb 29 17:19
schestowitzTelling that the UPC is cheaper than existing ways is only correct should one need a patent in all contracting states of the EU. When looking at the average number of validations, the UPC is anything but necessary. There are other cheaper ways to create a new patent system for Europe than the UPC should such a system be really needed, what appears highly doubtful!Feb 29 17:19
schestowitz"Feb 29 17:19
schestowitzhttps://www.iam-media.com/litigation/why-foreign-npes-are-taking-chinese-companies-in-their-home-courtsFeb 29 17:37
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/IAM_magazine/status/1232979959360172032Feb 29 17:37
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.iam-media.com | Why foreign NPEs are taking on Chinese companies in their home courts | IAMFeb 29 17:37
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@IAM_magazine: Why a growing number of foreign NPEs are taking on Chinese companies in Chinese courts. https://t.co/1aIHA9n72m https://t.co/BEOtinhJIGFeb 29 17:37
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@IAM_magazine: Why a growing number of foreign NPEs are taking on Chinese companies in Chinese courts. https://t.co/1aIHA9n72m https://t.co/BEOtinhJIGFeb 29 17:37
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1233339984662409218Feb 29 17:43
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@zoobab: Wondering if Pieter named his book 'Necromancer' after this other cyber book 'Neuromancer' https://t.co/BU0JaAnOrFFeb 29 17:43
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.newstatesman.com | William Gibson on the apocalypse: “it’s been happening for at least 100 years”Feb 29 17:43
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/InnovationAlli/status/1232365407434158081Feb 29 17:45
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@InnovationAlli: @WARF_News @Qualcomm_GA @Qualcomm Innovation Alliance's Pomper: We have seen the rise of reverse-trolling, or effic… https://t.co/JfqkeSqvCDFeb 29 17:45
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@InnovationAlli: @WARF_News @Qualcomm_GA @Qualcomm Innovation Alliance's Pomper: We have seen the rise of reverse-trolling, or effic… https://t.co/JfqkeSqvCDFeb 29 17:45
schestowitz"Innovation Alliance's Pomper: We have seen the rise of reverse-trolling, or efficient infringement. Big companies use and profit off an invention while fighting any challenge in court. It is #PatentTheft. #PatentsMatter #PatentThieves pic.twitter.com/U4jGoQcb76"Feb 29 17:45
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/TomMerfy/status/1233800546303324160Feb 29 18:02
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@TomMerfy: @RedfillProd @PabloVazquez_ @system76 Canonical software, owned by Mark Shuttleworth. CS is private software firm… https://t.co/fN0QGVXotqFeb 29 18:02
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@TomMerfy: @RedfillProd @PabloVazquez_ @system76 Canonical software, owned by Mark Shuttleworth. CS is private software firm… https://t.co/fN0QGVXotqFeb 29 18:02
schestowitz"Feb 29 18:02
schestowitzCanonical software, owned by Mark Shuttleworth. CS is  private software firm that is baaasssically trying to leech off of linux & make it a more "proprietary shit-show"Feb 29 18:02
schestowitzRead fellow Blendy & put on your angry face ಠ___ಠFeb 29 18:02
schestowitz"Feb 29 18:02
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/IAM_magazine/status/1232392311969062912Feb 29 18:13
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@IAM_magazine: It's part 2 of the IAM/@ktMINE US Patent 100 countdown of the world's largest US patent portfolios today - and we'r… https://t.co/nFZA7vYOOcFeb 29 18:13
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@IAM_magazine: It's part 2 of the IAM/@ktMINE US Patent 100 countdown of the world's largest US patent portfolios today - and we'r… https://t.co/nFZA7vYOOcFeb 29 18:13
schestowitz"It's part 2 of the IAM/ @ktMINE US Patent 100 countdown of the world's largest US patent portfolios today - and we're revealing places 80 down to 61. Companies featured include BOE, Philips and Blackberry. https://www.iam-media.com/non-practising-entities/boe-technology-philips-and-blackberry-among-companies-hold-biggest-us … pic.twitter.com/AJQ4BWIXjt"Feb 29 18:13
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.iam-media.com | BOE Technology, Philips and Blackberry among companies that hold biggest US portfolios  | IAMFeb 29 18:13
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/op_hector/status/1233820566819352577Feb 29 19:07
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@op_hector: @schestowitz Now, after so many years, they're going to hear him. Good for him and the people who is following him.Feb 29 19:07
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/glynco/status/1233783558076076034Feb 29 19:09
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@glynco: @schestowitz @attackerman @MohamedouOuld https://t.co/UA8zAIv65NFeb 29 19:09
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.theguardian.com | Guantánamo torturer led brutal Chicago police regime of shackling and confession | US news | The GuardianFeb 29 19:09
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/glynco/status/1233783453281374209Feb 29 19:09
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@glynco: @schestowitz By @attackerman re Zuley and @MohamedouOuld’s #Guantanamo #BattleLab #Torture... https://t.co/qlevKeiwOAFeb 29 19:09
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.theguardian.com | Bad lieutenant: American police brutality, exported from Chicago to Guantánamo | US news | The GuardianFeb 29 19:09
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/mkraft77/status/1233773168327684097Feb 29 19:10
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@mkraft77: @schestowitz Cite something concrete as evidence that #Trump is engaged in a "War on #FreePress." He hasn't done a… https://t.co/PjdHKJEVfSFeb 29 19:10
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@mkraft77: @schestowitz Cite something concrete as evidence that #Trump is engaged in a "War on #FreePress." He hasn't done a… https://t.co/PjdHKJEVfSFeb 29 19:10
schestowitz"Feb 29 19:10
schestowitzCite something concrete as evidence that #Trump is engaged in a "War on #FreePress."Feb 29 19:10
schestowitzHe hasn't done a damn thing against anyone in the press.Feb 29 19:10
schestowitzOr is criticizing gadflies like Jim @Acosta your idea of a 'war on the free press'?Feb 29 19:10
schestowitz"Feb 29 19:10
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/mkraft77/status/1233767620215791616Feb 29 19:10
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@mkraft77: @schestowitz @observatoryihr @wikileaks We already know that if Twitter suspended #Trump you'd be in the front line… https://t.co/pCjJvGKoSGFeb 29 19:10
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@mkraft77: @schestowitz @observatoryihr @wikileaks We already know that if Twitter suspended #Trump you'd be in the front line… https://t.co/pCjJvGKoSGFeb 29 19:10
schestowitz"We already know that if Twitter suspended #Trump you'd be in the front line of protesters. Just on principle."Feb 29 19:10
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/MzJayFord/status/1233731466208608257Feb 29 19:11
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@MzJayFord: @schestowitz Started in yesterday.... should be required reading for allies & enemies alike. Amazingly, but probab… https://t.co/tM2nVKAVDBFeb 29 19:11
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@MzJayFord: @schestowitz Started in yesterday.... should be required reading for allies & enemies alike. Amazingly, but probab… https://t.co/tM2nVKAVDBFeb 29 19:11
schestowitz"Feb 29 19:11
schestowitzStarted in yesterday.... should be required reading for allies & enemies alike.Feb 29 19:11
schestowitzAmazingly, but probably bc I tch--sped specifically--it's increasing my empathy not anger.Feb 29 19:11
schestowitzI've spent 15 yrs helping kids & hvg sooo many ?s...this is SO confirming. #ALLMustBeTaughtFeb 29 19:11
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schestowitz"Feb 29 19:11
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/grahamperrin/status/1233701466214408192Feb 29 19:12
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@grahamperrin: @schestowitz A polite suggestion: please think twice before gatekeeping. Be less monochrome. There exists a gamut o… https://t.co/DZ2yAzrahNFeb 29 19:12
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@grahamperrin: @schestowitz A polite suggestion: please think twice before gatekeeping. Be less monochrome. There exists a gamut o… https://t.co/DZ2yAzrahNFeb 29 19:12
schestowitz"Feb 29 19:12
schestowitzA polite suggestion: please think twice before gatekeeping. Be less monochrome. There exists a gamut of thought.Feb 29 19:12
schestowitzIf you doubt the popularity of reasonable debate, of open minds, please consider this – amongst the all-time top ten posts in /r/privacy –Feb 29 19:12
schestowitz"Feb 29 19:12
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/RonaldVermeij/status/1233701337520648192Feb 29 19:12
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@RonaldVermeij: @schestowitz Like I already mentioned before: - it is NOT about the (health impact of the) #Coronavirus - it is all… https://t.co/PvKDWG0JDSFeb 29 19:12
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@RonaldVermeij: @schestowitz Like I already mentioned before: - it is NOT about the (health impact of the) #Coronavirus - it is all… https://t.co/PvKDWG0JDSFeb 29 19:12
schestowitz"Feb 29 19:12
schestowitzLike I already mentioned before:Feb 29 19:12
schestowitz- it is NOT about the (health impact of the) #CoronavirusFeb 29 19:12
schestowitz- it is all about its (panic driven) spin-offs, aftermath.Feb 29 19:12
schestowitz"Feb 29 19:12
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AlexJungle2/status/1233836074327252993Feb 29 20:46
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@AlexJungle2: @schestowitz @wikileaks LSD can be a powerfull chemical. I asked this question on quora: https://t.co/tBL3QpXAdG a… https://t.co/MXMgcKoujHFeb 29 20:46
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.quora.com | What would Hitler do to Assange if WikiLeaks had exposed Nazi Germany? - QuoraFeb 29 20:46
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@AlexJungle2: @schestowitz @wikileaks LSD can be a powerfull chemical. I asked this question on quora: https://t.co/tBL3QpXAdG a… https://t.co/MXMgcKoujHFeb 29 20:46
schestowitz"Feb 29 20:46
schestowitzLSD can be a powerfull chemical.Feb 29 20:46
schestowitzI asked this question on quora: https://www.quora.com/What-would-Hitler-do-to-Assange-if-WikiLeaks-had-exposed-Nazi-GermanyFeb 29 20:46
schestowitzand since this very moment, no one perceived the meaning of the question. I think that by answering this questions, many persons would have their light bulb turn on.Feb 29 20:46
schestowitz"Feb 29 20:46
MinceRdrugs are a hell of a drug.Feb 29 20:47

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