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| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/satwanthundal/status/1178130463237398528 | Sep 29 03:23 |
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| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@satwanthundal: @tuxmachines He is retired right ? Or he still with his window terrorism regime ? | Sep 29 03:23 | |
| r_schestowitz | gates is on the msft board, bossing Nadella | Sep 29 03:24 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/crossedroo/status/1178132890200104960 | Sep 29 03:25 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@crossedroo: @schestowitz @michaellarabel Modern leftism and SJF at work. They will bring the down everything achieved in the last 30 years | Sep 29 03:25 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/VacasNoPalabras/status/1178015362841006081 | Sep 29 03:28 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@VacasNoPalabras: @schestowitz @netherstriker @Lyktstolpe2 @wikileaks Counterfactual. Problem is gas emissions, not population. China… https://t.co/HcGWYL6N4K | Sep 29 03:28 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@VacasNoPalabras: @schestowitz @netherstriker @Lyktstolpe2 @wikileaks Counterfactual. Problem is gas emissions, not population. China… https://t.co/HcGWYL6N4K | Sep 29 03:28 | |
| r_schestowitz | "Counterfactual. Problem is gas emissions, not population. China 20 years ago did not emit as much and the population was bigger." | Sep 29 03:29 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/VacasNoPalabras/status/1178016705987190784 | Sep 29 03:29 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@VacasNoPalabras: @schestowitz @netherstriker @Lyktstolpe2 @wikileaks Yet China will emit more C02 regardless of that in the future.… https://t.co/bvXDXYjLTs | Sep 29 03:29 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@VacasNoPalabras: @schestowitz @netherstriker @Lyktstolpe2 @wikileaks Yet China will emit more C02 regardless of that in the future.… https://t.co/bvXDXYjLTs | Sep 29 03:29 | |
| r_schestowitz | " | Sep 29 03:29 |
| r_schestowitz | Yet China will emit more C02 regardless of that in the future. | Sep 29 03:29 |
| r_schestowitz | There's no direct correlation between population and gas emissions. Both variables are obviously connected, but it's not the main issue. | Sep 29 03:29 |
| r_schestowitz | i.e. India has more population than the US but emits less CO2. | Sep 29 03:29 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Sep 29 03:29 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Bonadeaus/status/1178063992129904640 | Sep 29 03:29 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Bonadeaus: @schestowitz @wikileaks It’s sadder to know they don’t know who the enemy is. | Sep 29 03:29 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/crossedroo/status/1178133905473302529 | Sep 29 03:34 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-No status found with that ID. | Sep 29 03:34 | |
| r_schestowitz | "We now bow to personal pronous, pretend that a man can be a woman, and pretend that homosexuality is to be celebrated " | Sep 29 03:34 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/crossedroo/status/1178134187955503104 | Sep 29 03:34 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-No status found with that ID. | Sep 29 03:34 | |
| r_schestowitz | "We now bow to personal pronous, pretend that a man can be a woman, and that homosexuality is to be celebrated " | Sep 29 03:34 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/crossedroo/status/1178135908035391488 | Sep 29 03:34 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@crossedroo: @schestowitz Just as i thought. | Sep 29 03:34 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/16106722 | Sep 29 03:37 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: They made Torvalds and RMS beg for forgiveness from those whose precious feelings were "hurt". By an opinion, however honest. I know those tactics. #originalSin #guilt #control | Sep 29 03:37 | |
| r_schestowitz | "torvalds deserves it. and the people doing this deserve it too." | Sep 29 03:37 |
| r_schestowitz | Doing what? | Sep 29 03:37 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/crossedroo/status/1178136733797371904 | Sep 29 03:44 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@crossedroo: @schestowitz @fsf Most likely, from this point on nobody can save Linux & open source. The corporate vulchers have… https://t.co/PskCAJKBLP | Sep 29 03:45 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@crossedroo: @schestowitz @fsf Most likely, from this point on nobody can save Linux & open source. The corporate vulchers have… https://t.co/PskCAJKBLP | Sep 29 03:45 | |
| r_schestowitz | " | Sep 29 03:45 |
| r_schestowitz | Most likely, from this point on nobody can save Linux & open source. | Sep 29 03:45 |
| r_schestowitz | The corporate vulchers have smelled the blood, and they spent two decades shrapening the right tool for the kill. | Sep 29 03:45 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Sep 29 03:45 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Flavia0847/status/1178137503045492736 | Sep 29 03:45 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Flavia0847: @schestowitz Real armchair warriors. | Sep 29 03:45 | |
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| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/dandroidos/status/1178341944495181825 | Sep 29 17:24 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@dandroidos: Will Bill Gates’ Bribes to the Leader of India Harm India’s GNU/Linux Adoption and Will #Gates Ever be Held Account… https://t.co/uTzRDAqAv3 | Sep 29 17:24 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@dandroidos: Will Bill Gates’ Bribes to the Leader of India Harm India’s GNU/Linux Adoption and Will #Gates Ever be Held Account… https://t.co/uTzRDAqAv3 | Sep 29 17:24 | |
| r_schestowitz | " | Sep 29 17:24 |
| r_schestowitz | Will Bill Gates’ Bribes to the Leader of India Harm India’s GNU/Linux Adoption and Will #Gates Ever be Held Accountable for His Many Crimes? | Sep 29 17:24 |
| r_schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2019/09/28/gates-above-the-law/ … #GNU #Linux | Sep 29 17:24 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Sep 29 17:24 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | Will Bill Gates’ Bribes to the Leader of India Harm India’s GNU/Linux Adoption and Will Gates Ever be Held Accountable for His Many Crimes? | Techrights | Sep 29 17:24 | |
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| r_schestowitz | >> There are problems in Devuans right now (I get mails about it), so let's | Sep 29 17:54 |
| r_schestowitz | >> wait... | Sep 29 17:54 |
| r_schestowitz | > Aside from being understaffed, what else is problematic? | Sep 29 17:54 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Sep 29 17:54 |
| r_schestowitz | > I'd help Devuan but the tasks are just out of reach for my skill level. | Sep 29 17:54 |
| r_schestowitz | Seems like ego and machoism creating a negative atmosphere. I was told some of them names. One is "Ron". | Sep 29 17:54 |
| r_schestowitz | Re: TR not rebuilding db | Sep 29 17:55 |
| r_schestowitz | > TR went down but I think we're both in at the same time. | Sep 29 17:55 |
| r_schestowitz | Running 'w' I saw we both logged in at the same time after I had rebooted it. | Sep 29 17:55 |
| r_schestowitz | E-mail about DB to follow... | Sep 29 17:55 |
| r_schestowitz | >> TR went down but I think we're both in at the same time | Sep 29 18:01 |
| r_schestowitz | >> | Sep 29 18:01 |
| r_schestowitz | > Are there still errors in the database? | Sep 29 18:02 |
| r_schestowitz | good news: db 'compacted' upon reboot, it had grown lots of cruft over time, like I suspected. The disk usage is down enough for us to stop worrying or emptying logs outside rotation cycles. | Sep 29 18:02 |
| r_schestowitz | Long story short, techrights VM crashed for the first time in months. After further investigation after bringing it back online we found repairable damage to one particular DB table. | Sep 29 18:02 |
| r_schestowitz | Appended below: | Sep 29 18:02 |
| r_schestowitz | 1) irc logs | Sep 29 18:02 |
| r_schestowitz | 2) command line i/o (please read, can help next time such an issue occurs) | Sep 29 18:02 |
| r_schestowitz | [Friday, 6 April 2018] [02:14:24 BST] <xxxx> hello! | Sep 29 18:03 |
| r_schestowitz | [17:56] <xxxx> alright so | Sep 29 18:03 |
| r_schestowitz | [17:57] <xxxx> here's what I wrote on the FBI tip | Sep 29 18:03 |
| r_schestowitz | [17:57] <xxxx> it goes a lot deeper but it'll give you an idea | Sep 29 18:03 |
| r_schestowitz | [17:57] <xxxx> Bradley Airey is an extremist who runs a website called “National Unionist Front” (NUF) located at nationalunionism.online as well as a YouTube channel under the name “Brad Airey.” He is a self-professed “future mass shooter” who has made it clear numerous times he is in possession of deadly weapons. He is also a pedophile who is or has been in possession of and has distributed child pornography. He has | Sep 29 18:03 |
| r_schestowitz | [17:57] <xxxx> bragged to several of his friends that he had received nude photos from underage females and has solicited nude images from minors. Airey has since destroyed evidence of his website, YouTube channel, and a NUF related Instagram account. Both his website and his YouTube channel are archived by the Wayback Machine at web.archive.org at the time of writing. He claims that he will lead his far-right group as a prophet | Sep 29 18:03 |
| r_schestowitz | [17:57] <xxxx> following a collapse he anticipates. | Sep 29 18:03 |
| r_schestowitz | [17:57] <xxxx> Airey’s girlfriend, Jenniffer Elise Profitt, is currently living in the City of New York and is frequently visited by Airey from Baltimore, Maryland. Profitt may be in immediate danger as he has threatened Profitt’s family multiple times. He once said he would “kill a mother fucker” and has displayed signs of psychopathic and impulsive behavior. Airey is a clear and present danger to national security and to | Sep 29 18:03 |
| r_schestowitz | [17:57] <xxxx> the people of New York. He has sympathized with convicted terrorists such as Dylann Roof and Robert Bowers and claims that such terrorist attacks are a result of women. One of his friends has stated that Airey said that mass shootings occur because the attackers lash out due to women refusing to have sexual relations with the attackers and that he has defended and justified school shootings in the past. His website | Sep 29 18:03 |
| r_schestowitz | [17:57] <xxxx> once read "Israel is an illegitimate country and a threat to world peace, therefore it must be destroyed." One of Airey’s former friends has stated that Airey believes mass shootings should accelerate the collapse of America which is on par with the ideology of Brenton Tarrant, the New Zealand mosque shooter. | Sep 29 18:03 |
| r_schestowitz | [17:58] <xxxx> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WlT2Pf6Q0sgSqSuvaRTiqEvrRYJeYNxV8p42V1iMLwE/edit?usp=sharing | Sep 29 18:03 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-docs.google.com | Bradley Airey Intelligence Report - Google Docs | Sep 29 18:03 | |
| r_schestowitz | [17:59] <r_schestowitz> ok... | Sep 29 18:03 |
| r_schestowitz | [17:59] <r_schestowitz> I think this is not a techrights story but a propublica story | Sep 29 18:03 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:00] <xxxx> okay | Sep 29 18:03 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:00] <r_schestowitz> you can get their contact details on their site, they have a section/series called Documenting Hate, it won awards | Sep 29 18:03 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:00] <xxxx> oh alright! do you personally know anyone there? | Sep 29 18:03 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:00] <r_schestowitz> not closely | Sep 29 18:03 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:00] <xxxx> ok | Sep 29 18:03 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:00] <r_schestowitz> but they're good people | Sep 29 18:03 |
| r_schestowitz | >>> TR went down but I think we're both in at the same time. | Sep 29 18:09 |
| r_schestowitz | >> Running 'w' I saw we both logged in at the same time after I had | Sep 29 18:09 |
| r_schestowitz | >> rebooted it. | Sep 29 18:09 |
| r_schestowitz | >> | Sep 29 18:09 |
| r_schestowitz | >> E-mail about DB to follow... | Sep 29 18:09 |
| r_schestowitz | > Ok. The rebuild script should lock, though. | Sep 29 18:09 |
| r_schestowitz | Can we reuse what we have on TM? (copy across) | Sep 29 18:09 |
| r_schestowitz | The command I ran (see i/o sent separately) | Sep 29 18:09 |
| r_schestowitz | mysqlcheck -u root -p --auto-repair --check --all-databases | Sep 29 18:09 |
| r_schestowitz | This took just about 2-4 minutes all in all (to execute with httpd down, obviously | Sep 29 18:09 |
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| r_schestowitz | [18:13] <xxxxxxxxxx> okay sent in a contact request | Sep 29 18:43 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:14] <xxxxxxxxxx> anyone else you think I should reach out to? | Sep 29 18:43 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:14] <r_schestowitz> thank you, this sounds important | Sep 29 18:43 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:14] <xxxxxxxxxx> oh trust me theres a lot more to the story | Sep 29 18:43 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:14] <r_schestowitz> Only if they don't respond | Sep 29 18:43 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:14] <xxxxxxxxxx> and I know the victims and witnesses | Sep 29 18:43 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:14] <xxxxxxxxxx> firsthand experienced everything | Sep 29 18:43 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:14] <r_schestowitz> they do in-depth investigatuions | Sep 29 18:43 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:15] <r_schestowitz> if they don't come back to you, I might consider airing it myslf, but it's a taf off-topic for techrights | Sep 29 18:43 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:15] <xxxxxxxxxx> ah okay | Sep 29 18:43 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:15] <r_schestowitz> might also put me at risk unless published anonymously | Sep 29 18:43 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:15] <xxxxxxxxxx> he has a ton of followers | Sep 29 18:44 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:15] <xxxxxxxxxx> well | Sep 29 18:44 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:15] <xxxxxxxxxx> around 1000 followers | Sep 29 18:44 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:15] <xxxxxxxxxx> i believe | Sep 29 18:44 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:15] <xxxxxxxxxx> he deleted ALL evidence online | Sep 29 18:44 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:16] <xxxxxxxxxx> just yesterday | Sep 29 18:44 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:16] <xxxxxxxxxx> but I saved everything | Sep 29 18:44 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:16] <xxxxxxxxxx> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx | Sep 29 18:44 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:20] <r_schestowitz> Ah, typical GAB | Sep 29 18:44 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:21] <r_schestowitz> i got so many death threats there | Sep 29 18:44 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:21] <r_schestowitz> I left when one cretin there did a mass shooting | Sep 29 18:44 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:23] <xxxxxxxxxx> GAB? | Sep 29 18:44 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:24] <xxxxxxxxxx> ohhh that website | Sep 29 18:44 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:24] <xxxxxxxxxx> gab.ai | Sep 29 18:44 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:24] <xxxxxxxxxx> i hadn't heard about it until recently | Sep 29 18:44 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:24] <r_schestowitz> it became an underground chamber of radicals | Sep 29 18:44 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:25] <xxxxxxxxxx> yeah, | Sep 29 18:44 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:25] <xxxxxxxxxx> his friend, Daniel M Arzayus (Pinkyculture) | Sep 29 18:44 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:25] <xxxxxxxxxx> runs this youtube channel: | Sep 29 18:44 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:25] <xxxxxxxxxx> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC47sh47ndz1HJc5-QRQ0LUg | Sep 29 18:44 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:26] <xxxxxxxxxx> where mass shooters are often praised | Sep 29 18:44 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | PINKYCULTURE - YouTube | Sep 29 18:44 | |
| r_schestowitz | [18:26] <xxxxxxxxxx> and bradley airey is often on air | Sep 29 18:44 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:32] <r_schestowitz> this merits report to US authorities | Sep 29 18:44 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:32] <xxxxxxxxxx> i've already reported to his local PD | Sep 29 18:44 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:32] <xxxxxxxxxx> and FBI | Sep 29 18:44 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:32] <r_schestowitz> to avert manslighter | Sep 29 18:44 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:32] <r_schestowitz> manslaughter | Sep 29 18:44 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:32] <xxxxxxxxxx> 2 weeks ago | Sep 29 18:44 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:32] <xxxxxxxxxx> and still nothing | Sep 29 18:44 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:33] <xxxxxxxxxx> i thought they would at least take the child pornography allegations seriously | Sep 29 18:44 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:33] <xxxxxxxxxx> but i guess not | Sep 29 18:44 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:33] <r_schestowitz> I saw some people on gab who were 'good candidate' for mass murder, based on what they posted to me/to all | Sep 29 18:44 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:33] <xxxxxxxxxx> did they get arrested? | Sep 29 18:44 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:33] <r_schestowitz> I assume authorities monitor that site a lot | Sep 29 18:44 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:33] <xxxxxxxxxx> ah | Sep 29 18:44 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:33] <xxxxxxxxxx> thing is | Sep 29 18:44 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:33] <xxxxxxxxxx> based on what I know about this guy | Sep 29 18:44 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:34] <xxxxxxxxxx> he 100% will attempt a mass murder | Sep 29 18:44 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:34] <xxxxxxxxxx> sometime in his lifetime | Sep 29 18:44 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:34] <r_schestowitz> maybe they;ll set him up with a sting operation next | Sep 29 18:44 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:34] <xxxxxxxxxx> maybe | Sep 29 18:45 |
| r_schestowitz | 18:46] <<xxxxx>> though i feel no need to comment in public, I believe that is still true. The person who would most likely know may actually be Ruben Safer | Sep 29 20:07 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:47] <r_schestowitz> I heard his name days ago | Sep 29 20:07 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:48] <r_schestowitz> is he close to RMS? Is there infighting? Do you know how RMS edits the site and who else he granted access? | Sep 29 20:07 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:49] <<xxxxx>> The site I do not know about. I know there had been some infighting in fsf admins earlier this year though. | Sep 29 20:07 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:50] <r_schestowitz> admins tech or admin board or management? | Sep 29 20:07 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:50] <<xxxxx>> I simply presume it is something he edits on his laptop in emacs, and republishes to a (formally fsf?) website. At least that would be my best guess. | Sep 29 20:07 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:51] <<xxxxx>> I mean the internal site admins, they were not cooperating with other fsf activists. | Sep 29 20:07 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:51] <r_schestowitz> I see... so there may be so-called 'rebels' in the ranks | Sep 29 20:07 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:52] <<xxxxx>> there could well be...so this idea, he probably ssh's the html directly through fencepost, and someone editing it after, seems very plausable. | Sep 29 20:07 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:54] <r_schestowitz> we might never know; that's the worst case scenario. I heard one person on the Board dissented and defended RMS, I was guessing Oliva | Sep 29 20:07 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:54] <<xxxxx>> Ruben runs nylxs and has hosted Richard a number of times when he was in the nyc area. That is why I think it is possible he might go there. | Sep 29 20:07 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:55] <r_schestowitz> I think ht used to post in COLA, Usenet (advocay) | Sep 29 20:07 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:55] <r_schestowitz> the event reminders | Sep 29 20:07 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:57] <<xxxxx>> well, right now I am still trying to understand the other shocks of the last few weeks, even before this strange outrage. | Sep 29 20:07 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:58] <r_schestowitz> lots of angles to it | Sep 29 20:07 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:58] <r_schestowitz> I keep track of it in http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128122 | Sep 29 20:07 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.tuxmachines.org | Stallman Under Fire for Views on Epstein | Tux Machines | Sep 29 20:07 | |
| r_schestowitz | [18:58] <r_schestowitz> Scroll down, this is what started this whole chain of events and you can see who more or less pushed the agenda and contacted who | Sep 29 20:07 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:59] <<xxxxx>> Well, I have heard of the supremecy of CoC at the FSF from several outraged libreplanet speakers. It is worth noting they were female speakers, too. | Sep 29 20:08 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:59] <r_schestowitz> I wrote about it | Sep 29 20:08 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:59] <<xxxxx>> I heard it first hand | Sep 29 20:08 |
| r_schestowitz | [18:59] <r_schestowitz> http://techrights.org/2019/04/16/libreplanet-speech/ | Sep 29 20:08 |
| r_schestowitz | [19:00] <r_schestowitz> You will find more on this under "Pages that cross-reference this one" (below the body of the text) | Sep 29 20:08 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | Reader’s Claim That Rules Similar to the Code of Conduct (CoC) Were ‘Imposed’ on LibrePlanet and the FSF | Techrights | Sep 29 20:08 | |
| r_schestowitz | [19:00] <r_schestowitz> this was later confirmed to me by more people | Sep 29 20:08 |
| r_schestowitz | [19:00] <<xxxxx>> Especially from the libre respin maintainer, Marcia Wilbur | Sep 29 20:08 |
| r_schestowitz | [19:01] <r_schestowitz> this one also you might want to read http://techrights.org/2019/06/13/a-line-in-the-sand/ | Sep 29 20:08 |
| r_schestowitz | [19:01] <r_schestowitz> Yes, she knows a lot of this very well | Sep 29 20:08 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | Guest Post: Notes on Free Speech, and a Line in the Sand | Techrights | Sep 29 20:08 | |
| r_schestowitz | [19:01] <r_schestowitz> (we're in good terms) | Sep 29 20:08 |
| r_schestowitz | [19:03] <<xxxxx>> yes, that article is also a foreshadowing | Sep 29 20:08 |
| r_schestowitz | [19:03] <r_schestowitz> good that I documented all this | Sep 29 20:08 |
| r_schestowitz | [19:04] <<xxxxx>> I am glad too | Sep 29 20:08 |
| r_schestowitz | [19:04] <r_schestowitz> as well as http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Linux_Foundation | Sep 29 20:08 |
| r_schestowitz | [19:04] <r_schestowitz> many of these things come together now | Sep 29 20:08 |
| r_schestowitz | [19:06] <<xxxxx>> I am particularly horrified in what happened to the fsf | Sep 29 20:08 |
| r_schestowitz | [19:07] <r_schestowitz> what to do now...? | Sep 29 20:08 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | Linux Foundation - Techrights | Sep 29 20:08 | |
| r_schestowitz | [19:07] <r_schestowitz> what can I and techrights do? (not a rick question) | Sep 29 20:08 |
| r_schestowitz | [19:07] <r_schestowitz> *trick | Sep 29 20:08 |
| r_schestowitz | [19:08] <<xxxxx>> lf was always a corporate sponsored thing, but the fsf, how did it get so undermined? and what to do? I do not know an answer for that yet. | Sep 29 20:08 |
| r_schestowitz | [19:08] <r_schestowitz> RMS and I are close, by virtue of trust, and since the beginning I've been telling him this helps distract from the massive Gates MIT scandal (he partly agreed( | Sep 29 20:08 |
| r_schestowitz | [19:09] <<xxxxx>> yea, I suspect, at MIT, there are some who wish to not have the spotlight...so the idea that he was sacrificied by them to draw attention away is not impluasable. | Sep 29 20:08 |
| r_schestowitz | [19:11] <r_schestowitz> The original hit piece is from Vice | Sep 29 20:08 |
| r_schestowitz | [19:11] <r_schestowitz> it's funded by Rupert Murdoch | Sep 29 20:08 |
| r_schestowitz | [19:11] <r_schestowitz> A close friend of Bill Gates, personally and professionally | Sep 29 20:08 |
| r_schestowitz | [19:11] <r_schestowitz> They are the ones who originally distorted what RMS had said | Sep 29 20:08 |
| r_schestowitz | [19:12] <<xxxxx>> And those people would watch for any real opportunity | Sep 29 20:08 |
| r_schestowitz | [19:12] <r_schestowitz> later Fox and NYPost (News Corp. also) joined in, with more liars in between, after the emails were leaked trom MIT to Vice | Sep 29 20:08 |
| r_schestowitz | [19:13] <r_schestowitz> I encouraged people do forensically dissect the flow of this campaign... as if might help reveal, going backwards so to speak, how it came about | Sep 29 20:08 |
| r_schestowitz | [19:13] <<xxxxx>> yes...it does seem like a campaign, too | Sep 29 20:08 |
| r_schestowitz | [19:14] <<xxxxx>> not just a random sequence of unfortunate events | Sep 29 20:08 |
| r_schestowitz | [19:14] <r_schestowitz> Even Leah "boycott GNU" Rowe opined so | Sep 29 20:08 |
| r_schestowitz | [19:16] <<xxxxx>> I guess it is fortunate I never had to actually deal with her....boycott gnu??? but i just found an interested r/ on her | Sep 29 20:08 |
| r_schestowitz | [19:17] <<xxxxx>> (interesting) r/ | Sep 29 20:08 |
| r_schestowitz | [19:19] <r_schestowitz> I try not to mention these people | Sep 29 20:08 |
| r_schestowitz | [19:19] <r_schestowitz> you can become their ocd "target" | Sep 29 20:08 |
| r_schestowitz | [19:20] <r_schestowitz> Even disgusting ESR said so | Sep 29 20:08 |
| r_schestowitz | [19:22] <<xxxxx>> My only question and concern is what does Richard want to do now? If GNU has to be disentangled from FSF, that is a daunting task. | Sep 29 20:08 |
| r_schestowitz | [19:22] <r_schestowitz> in the meantime people develop the code | Sep 29 20:08 |
| r_schestowitz | [19:22] <r_schestowitz> assuming the whole thing did not demoralise them | Sep 29 20:08 |
| r_schestowitz | [19:22] <r_schestowitz> and that's what matters | Sep 29 20:09 |
| r_schestowitz | [19:23] <<xxxxx>> Yep, and maybe avoid doing fsf copyright assignment in the future. Well, there is little real harm the FSF could do that the license does not already fix... | Sep 29 20:09 |
| r_schestowitz | [19:24] <r_schestowitz> IANAL, but I think your main project is a GNU one | Sep 29 20:09 |
| r_schestowitz | [19:24] <<xxxxx>> You mean GNU xxxxx, GNU xxxx, GNU xxx? | Sep 29 20:09 |
| r_schestowitz | [19:24] <r_schestowitz> and as a non-lawyer I'd say one way or another it'll get rectified (CLA) | Sep 29 20:09 |
| r_schestowitz | [19:25] <r_schestowitz> tbh, my wife and I worry RMS might sink into depression | Sep 29 20:09 |
| r_schestowitz | [19:25] <r_schestowitz> harming health, suicidal thoughts etc. | Sep 29 20:09 |
| r_schestowitz | [19:25] <<xxxxx>> We actually held out to do dual copyright assignment at the time. | Sep 29 20:09 |
| r_schestowitz | [19:25] <r_schestowitz> although I heard once that people with Asperger are less likely to have such thoughts | Sep 29 20:09 |
| r_schestowitz | [19:26] <<xxxxx>> Yes, that's actually why I was kinda hoping Richard might have gone to Ruben's... | Sep 29 20:09 |
| r_schestowitz | [19:29] <r_schestowitz> https://twitter.com/joenihl/status/1178363146156814336 | Sep 29 20:09 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@joenihl: I suggest https://t.co/K6CWt7Kgv7 cannot be trusted anymore. COINTELPRO aims: INFILTRATE UNDERMINE PUBLIC OPINION… https://t.co/hQ6ONmfoQe | Sep 29 20:09 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> techrights.org | Techrights | People's rights in the digital age | Plutocracy threatened by freedom, democracy, privacy & civil rights | Sep 29 20:09 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@joenihl: I suggest https://t.co/K6CWt7Kgv7 cannot be trusted anymore. COINTELPRO aims: INFILTRATE UNDERMINE PUBLIC OPINION… https://t.co/hQ6ONmfoQe | Sep 29 20:09 | |
| r_schestowitz | [19:29] <r_schestowitz> " | Sep 29 20:09 |
| r_schestowitz | [19:29] <r_schestowitz> I suggest http://techrights.org cannot be trusted anymore. | Sep 29 20:09 |
| r_schestowitz | [19:29] <r_schestowitz> COINTELPRO aims: | Sep 29 20:09 |
| r_schestowitz | [19:29] <r_schestowitz> INFILTRATE | Sep 29 20:09 |
| r_schestowitz | [19:29] <r_schestowitz> UNDERMINE PUBLIC OPINION | Sep 29 20:09 |
| r_schestowitz | [19:29] <r_schestowitz> PLANT BOGUS STORIES | Sep 29 20:09 |
| r_schestowitz | [19:29] <r_schestowitz> FAKE INTERNAL COMMUNICATIONS | Sep 29 20:09 |
| r_schestowitz | [19:29] <r_schestowitz> CAUSE INTERNAL RIFTS | Sep 29 20:09 |
| r_schestowitz | [19:29] <r_schestowitz> " | Sep 29 20:09 |
| r_schestowitz | [19:30] <<xxxxx>> projection :) | Sep 29 20:09 |
| r_schestowitz | [19:30] <r_schestowitz> That is a ridiculous thing to say. Like claiming that a doctor diagnosing a patient with something is just "trying to sell something" when the underlying evidence does exist. Even if repressed. | Sep 29 20:09 |
| r_schestowitz | [19:31] <r_schestowitz> this person follows one person, followed by few, uses no real name | Sep 29 20:09 |
| r_schestowitz | [19:31] <r_schestowitz> 1400 tweets | Sep 29 20:09 |
| r_schestowitz | [19:31] <r_schestowitz> https://twitter.com/joenihl | Sep 29 20:09 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-mobile.twitter.com | j to the oe (@joenihl) on Twitter | Sep 29 20:09 | |
| r_schestowitz | [19:31] <r_schestowitz> lots about us | Sep 29 20:09 |
| r_schestowitz | [19:32] <r_schestowitz> https://twitter.com/joenihl/status/1178362359108296709 | Sep 29 20:09 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@joenihl: The aim of cointelpro is to have an economic threat implode. "Summary: The FSF is now actively ‘attacking’ its ver… https://t.co/lLKWUMTAmh | Sep 29 20:09 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@joenihl: The aim of cointelpro is to have an economic threat implode. "Summary: The FSF is now actively ‘attacking’ its ver… https://t.co/lLKWUMTAmh | Sep 29 20:09 | |
| r_schestowitz | [19:32] <r_schestowitz> " | Sep 29 20:09 |
| r_schestowitz | [19:32] <r_schestowitz> The aim of cointelpro is to have an economic threat implode. | Sep 29 20:09 |
| r_schestowitz | [19:32] <r_schestowitz> "Summary: The FSF is now actively ‘attacking’ its very own founder, whose Web site is said to have been defaced by FSF staff" | Sep 29 20:09 |
| r_schestowitz | [19:32] <r_schestowitz> One rogue staff memember does not mean FSF is actively attack it's own founder. | Sep 29 20:09 |
| r_schestowitz | [19:32] <r_schestowitz> " | Sep 29 20:09 |
| r_schestowitz | [19:33] <<xxxxx>> That one is a strange one | Sep 29 20:09 |
| r_schestowitz | [19:33] <r_schestowitz> Never saw this user before, no idea what to make of it | Sep 29 20:09 |
| r_schestowitz | [19:33] <r_schestowitz> I guess they could say the same about my criticism of LF | Sep 29 20:09 |
| r_schestowitz | [19:34] <r_schestowitz> So we should all be very "corporate" and never criticise anything or anyone | Sep 29 20:09 |
| r_schestowitz | [19:34] <<xxxxx>> projection is when someone engaging in some behavior accuses those they oppose of doing so | Sep 29 20:09 |
| r_schestowitz | [19:35] <r_schestowitz> " | Sep 29 20:09 |
| r_schestowitz | [19:35] <r_schestowitz> I hereby step down as head of the GNU Project, effective immediately. | Sep 29 20:09 |
| r_schestowitz | [19:35] <r_schestowitz> Richard Stallman | Sep 29 20:09 |
| r_schestowitz | [19:35] <r_schestowitz> It's back | Sep 29 20:10 |
| r_schestowitz | [19:35] <r_schestowitz> https://stallman.org/archives/2019-jul-oct.html#29_September_20 | Sep 29 20:10 |
| r_schestowitz | [19:35] <<xxxxx>> So I see... | Sep 29 20:10 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-stallman.org | 2019: July - October Political Notes - Richard Stallman | Sep 29 20:10 | |
| r_schestowitz | > i really hate the way this is going to sound, but xxxxx, a regular of your irc, is really going out of his way to delegitimise stallman on the most recent phoronix thread about him. | Sep 29 20:10 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Sep 29 20:10 |
| r_schestowitz | > it kind of pisses me off, it might piss you off. | Sep 29 20:10 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Sep 29 20:10 |
| r_schestowitz | > hes a smart guy, but i dont approve of what hes doing. and theres really nothing else that i think can be said about it. hes got a right to his opinion, but ive got a right to lose my ability to trust him. | Sep 29 20:10 |
| r_schestowitz | I don't trust him much either, but don't tell him that | Sep 29 20:10 |
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| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/16107451#f8143fd0c4c101373d6f047d7b62795e | Sep 29 20:28 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: RMS was just not "professional" enough, apparently... http://techrights.org/2019/08/15/professionalism-myth/ | Sep 29 20:28 | |
| r_schestowitz | " | Sep 29 20:28 |
| r_schestowitz | The Clark Kent must be separate from the Superman. The Tony Stark must be separate from the Ironman. The Bruce Wayne must be separate from the Batman. | Sep 29 20:28 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> techrights.org | The Myth of ‘Professionalism’ | Techrights | Sep 29 20:28 | |
| r_schestowitz | If you blow your cover (it happens) just stay underground. | Sep 29 20:28 |
| r_schestowitz | I will be with you in the Multiverse \m/ | Sep 29 20:28 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Sep 29 20:28 |
| r_schestowitz | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/77/Dark_knight_returns.jpg | Sep 29 20:28 |
| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/16107253#915a27e0c4af013752450cc47a07853c | Sep 29 20:31 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "There seems to be a fair amount of talk on random forums about Salesforce being involved in the RMS nonsense. Plugging it into a search engine returns a Twitter user called "Sarah Mei" along with relevant articles and chatter." #techrights IRC | Sep 29 20:31 | |
| r_schestowitz | " | Sep 29 20:31 |
| r_schestowitz | wikipedia: The company was founded in 1999 by former Oracle executive Marc Benioff, Parker Harris, Dave Moellenhoff, and Frank Dominguez as a company specializing in software as a service (SaaS).[4] Harris, Moellenhoff, and Dominguez, three software developers previously at consulting firm Left Coast Software, were introduced to Benioff through a friend and former Oracle colleague Bobby Yazdani. | Sep 29 20:31 |
| r_schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com | Sep 29 20:31 |
| r_schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com - about 13 hours ago | Sep 29 20:31 |
| r_schestowitz | In 2017 at Def Con, Salesforce’s Director of Offensive Security and a security engineer were fired on the conference room floor in front of several other attendees by an executive at the company after giving a talk. Word rapidly spread that two speakers had been released at the event.[152] The presentation was initially signed off on by the company; however, Salesforce’s management team had an unexplained and sudden change of heart an | Sep 29 20:31 |
| r_schestowitz | hour before the event.[153] Salesforce’s Director of Offensive Security had turned off his phone prior to the presentation and was unable to receive any communication from Salesforce prior to the presentation.[152] Reaction after the firings was swift, with the Electronic Frontier Foundation providing representation to the fired employees[152] and members of the security community opining “Salesforce undermined their credibility in the | Sep 29 20:31 |
| r_schestowitz | security community to a significant degree” and that “how they are perceived by the security community isn’t top of their list of things they care about.”[154] The presented MEATPISTOL tool was anticipated to be released as open source at the time of the presentation, but Salesforce continues to hold back on releasing any of the code to developers or the public.[155] The terminated employees have continued to call on the company to | Sep 29 20:31 |
| r_schestowitz | open-source the software.[156] | Sep 29 20:31 |
| r_schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com | Sep 29 20:31 |
| r_schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com - about 13 hours ago | Sep 29 20:31 |
| r_schestowitz | The not-for-profit organization Refugee and Immigrant Center for Education and Legal Services (RAICES) rejected a US$250,000 philanthropic donation from Salesforce, because the company has contracts with Customs and Border Patrol [sic]. | Sep 29 20:31 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Sep 29 20:31 |
| r_schestowitz | Cheers for that | Sep 29 20:31 |
| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/16108578#99816af0c4ea013752430cc47a07853c | Sep 29 20:36 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #FSF May Not be Trustworthy Anymore, It's Believed/Said to Have Just Defaced #RichardStallman 's Personal Web Site http://techrights.org/2019/09/29/fsf-defaced-rms/ #rms #gnu #freesw | Sep 29 20:36 | |
| r_schestowitz | " | Sep 29 20:36 |
| r_schestowitz | Site is down. | Sep 29 20:36 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> techrights.org | FSF May Not be Trustworthy Anymore, It’s Believed/Said to Have Just Defaced Richard Stallman’s Personal Web Site | Techrights | Sep 29 20:36 | |
| r_schestowitz |  | Sep 29 20:36 |
| r_schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com - about 6 hours ago | Sep 29 20:36 |
| r_schestowitz | techrights website is back up. | Sep 29 20:36 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Sep 29 20:36 |
| r_schestowitz | Downtime incident. Not a security issue thankfully. | Sep 29 20:36 |
| r_schestowitz | [Sunday, 29 September 2019] [20:17:39 BST] <xxxxx> so we still have the software freedom law center (Eben), and also the sf conservatory (Kuhn, Jeremy from samba; works at google?? what?).... | Sep 29 20:40 |
| r_schestowitz | [Sunday, 29 September 2019] [20:19:24 BST] <r_schestowitz> Kuhn played a big role in the anti-RMS coup | Sep 29 20:40 |
| r_schestowitz | [Sunday, 29 September 2019] [20:20:43 BST] <xxxxx> Yes, I noticed their press release, a quick knife to the back... | Sep 29 20:40 |
| r_schestowitz | [Sunday, 29 September 2019] [20:24:40 BST] <r_schestowitz> https://joindiaspora.com/posts/16106498#67a4d890c51a013752690cc47a07853c | Sep 29 20:40 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Shortly After #RichardStallman Says He's Head of #GNU He Writes “I Hereby Step Down as Head of the GNU Project, Effective Immediately” http://techrights.org/2019/09/28/rms-being-canceled/ #fsf #rms #freesw | Sep 29 20:40 | |
| r_schestowitz | [Sunday, 29 September 2019] [20:24:40 BST] <r_schestowitz> " | Sep 29 20:40 |
| r_schestowitz | [Sunday, 29 September 2019] [20:24:40 BST] <r_schestowitz> great question, troc. worth keeping a watch for. | Sep 29 20:40 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> techrights.org | Shortly After Richard Stallman Says He’s Head of GNU He Writes “I Hereby Step Down as Head of the GNU Project, Effective Immediately” (Updated) | Techrights | Sep 29 20:40 | |
| r_schestowitz | [Sunday, 29 September 2019] [20:24:40 BST] <r_schestowitz> Sapiens | Sep 29 20:40 |
| r_schestowitz | [Sunday, 29 September 2019] [20:24:40 BST] <r_schestowitz> Sapiens - 12 minutes ago | Sep 29 20:40 |
| r_schestowitz | [Sunday, 29 September 2019] [20:24:40 BST] <r_schestowitz> I fear for Dr Stallman’s life. :/ (They could always claim it was suicide.) | Sep 29 20:41 |
| r_schestowitz | [Sunday, 29 September 2019] [20:24:41 BST] <r_schestowitz> " | Sep 29 20:41 |
| r_schestowitz | [Sunday, 29 September 2019] [20:24:48 BST] <xxxxx> But I did not see anything from sflc...just that Eben left the fsf board earlier this year. | Sep 29 20:41 |
| r_schestowitz | [Sunday, 29 September 2019] [20:25:12 BST] <r_schestowitz> then garrett said something negative about it | Sep 29 20:41 |
| r_schestowitz | [Sunday, 29 September 2019] [20:25:30 BST] <r_schestowitz> he was always quick to drive the dagger within hours of the media attack on RMS | Sep 29 20:41 |
| r_schestowitz | [Sunday, 29 September 2019] [20:25:41 BST] <r_schestowitz> see times of http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128122 (top) | Sep 29 20:41 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.tuxmachines.org | Stallman Under Fire for Views on Epstein | Tux Machines | Sep 29 20:41 | |
| r_schestowitz | [Sunday, 29 September 2019] [20:25:52 BST] <r_schestowitz> compare to time of https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/52587.html | Sep 29 20:41 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-mjg59.dreamwidth.org | mjg59 | It's time to talk about post-RMS Free Software | Sep 29 20:41 | |
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| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Shortly After #RichardStallman Says He's Head of #GNU He Writes “I Hereby Step Down as Head of the GNU Project, Effective Immediately” http://techrights.org/2019/09/28/rms-being-canceled/ #fsf #rms #freesw | Sep 29 21:23 | |
| r_schestowitz | "Frank Olson was 43." | Sep 29 21:23 |
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