●● IRC: #techbytes @ FreeNode: Sunday, May 30, 2021 ●● ● May 30 [00:00] schestowitz cheers, we'll have both networks logged [00:00] schestowitz maybe one will be closer circles but not hidden [00:00] MinceR :) [00:00] schestowitz that can help keep the likes of GoogleTroll out [00:01] schestowitz so we can focus on less Ryan and Mandy... [00:01] schestowitz or Russia [00:04] *schestowitz has quit (Password incorrect) [00:04] *schestowitz__ (~schestowitz@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes [00:05] MinceR lol [00:06] MinceR i didn't realize Ryan was such a thret :> [00:06] MinceR s/et/eat/ [00:08] schestowitz server situation back under control now and we're better off now... as I've long wanted to self-host IRC to a better degree [00:16] *MinceR (~mincer@bringer.of.light) has joined #techbytes [00:20] *GNUmoon has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [00:20] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techbytes ● May 30 [01:08] schestowitz http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/05/breaking-oral-proceedings-in-g121-vico.html?showComment=1622306010314#c1786858087456114464 [01:08] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.com | BREAKING: Oral proceedings in G1/21 (ViCo) rescheduled due to procedural technicality - The IPKat [01:08] schestowitz " [01:08] schestowitz Well, I think there are 2 aspects worth considering with respect to the opponents partiality issues: [01:08] schestowitz 1) Two more members are suspected of also having worked in some form on the new ViCo rules, but the Board only said they are "not aware" of this. Avoiding to simply confirming that no, these members have not done that, is indeed not really the level of transparency one would hope for. [01:08] schestowitz 2) Saying that every member intrinsically always has an implicit personal interest in the outcome is a rather far-reaching argument. It implies that the EBoA simply cannot decide this case, regardless of composition or structure. So who should then do it? The ICJ? The UN? A diplomatic conference? 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[10:51] *schestowitz (~roy@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes [10:51] *irc.techrights.org sets mode +q #techbytes schestowitz [10:52] *schestowitz (~schestowi@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:9e47:addf:5b42:cd6d) has joined #techbytes [10:52] -NickServ-schestowitz!~schestowi@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:9e47:addf:5b42:cd6d has just authenticated as you (schestowitz) [10:52] *schestowitz has quit (Changing host) [10:52] *schestowitz (~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #techbytes [10:53] schestowitz Oh, interesting [10:52] [400] schestowitz NICK You must use your account name as your nickname [10:53] schestowitz I am guessing it a server-side config thing ● May 30 [11:20] schestowitz http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/05/breaking-oral-proceedings-in-g121-vico.html?showComment=1622317758784#c3045583345355076578 [11:20] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.com | BREAKING: Oral proceedings in G1/21 (ViCo) rescheduled due to procedural technicality - The IPKat [11:20] schestowitz " [11:20] schestowitz What is at stake in G 1/21 is no more than an EPO 2.0 which is not covered by the EPC as it stands! [11:20] schestowitz It is not merely whether you can sit comfortably in your UK office when there is an OP, but it is about a total reshaping of the EPO. [11:20] schestowitz @ Anonymous of Saturday, 29 May 2021 at 11:20:00 BST [11:20] schestowitz If there are amateurs at work, I would rather see them on the side of the EBA and of the presidents representatives. [11:20] schestowitz Having to be told by a party to look at the RPEBA cannot be seen as glorious. Where have you ever seen a court not aware of its own rules of procedure? [11:20] schestowitz @ Anonymous of Saturday, 29 May 2021 at 17:33:00 BST [11:20] schestowitz Saying that every member intrinsically always has an implicit personal interest in the outcome is a rather far-reaching argument is correct. [11:20] schestowitz But it touches on one aspect which has not been really discussed up to know: thanks to Art 15a(3) RPBA in combination with Art 15a(1) RPBA every member of the BA and hence every member of examining and opposition divisions will be allowed to sit wherever he likes. This is paving the way for the New Normal. [11:20] schestowitz Without mandatory OP by ViCo there is no New Normal. This should not be forgotten. [11:20] schestowitz The EBA declared in G 2/19 that Users of the European Patent Organisation's services can legitimately expect that the European Patent Office's departments will not perform acts at whatever other place they choose. [11:20] schestowitz How is this statement compatible with Art 15a(3) RPBA20 and the New Normal? [11:20] schestowitz One the other hand the opponent just wanted to draw the attention of the EBA in which impossible situation it has put itself with confusing speed and precipitation. That it is why the EBA had no choice but to declare the request on partiality not admissible. I am curious to see what reasons will be given for this legal pirouette. [11:20] schestowitz " [11:47] schestowitz http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/05/breaking-oral-proceedings-in-g121-vico.html?showComment=1622365768648#c6470883968457747269 [11:47] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.com | BREAKING: Oral proceedings in G1/21 (ViCo) rescheduled due to procedural technicality - The IPKat [11:47] schestowitz " [11:47] schestowitz Dear Kant, [11:47] schestowitz By giving the majority in the EBA to external members, some people, names need not be given, would loose control of the EBA/BA as the external members most probably do not care about not being re-appointed. [11:47] schestowitz But the (perception of the) independence of the BA has improved since 2016! [11:47] schestowitz Who do you think you are to ask such a nasty question and to raise doubts about the impartiality of members of the BA? [11:47] schestowitz The whole mess the BA/EBA finds itself in, is the direct result of the reform of the BA wanted by a former head of the EPO. [11:47] schestowitz It is a scandal that members of the BA can only be reappointed if they have shown a given "performance". The criteria are still non-public.This is also scandalous! [11:47] schestowitz Without leaning to far out of the window, performance means probably a certain flexibility of the spine associated with a production increasing every year like in DG1. [11:47] schestowitz The EPO has indeed been degraded to a producer of "targets",. [11:47] schestowitz When one sees the number of patents revoked or severely limited in opposition because the grant procedure is flawed, it becomes alarming. Just look at the published decisions and draw your conclusions. As only 5% of patents are opposed, when you extrapolate to all the grants it is daunting! [11:47] schestowitz " ● May 30 [12:13] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:14] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [12:15] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [12:15] *rianne (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes [12:16] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes [12:17] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes [12:22] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:22] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes [12:35] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:36] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [12:36] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [12:40] *rianne (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes [12:41] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes [12:42] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes [12:49] *Techrights-sec2 has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [12:49] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:49] *Techrights-sec (~quassel@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:9ed2:1eff:feb6:a8e1) has joined #techbytes [12:49] *libertybox has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [12:50] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [12:51] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) ● May 30 [13:01] *libertybox (~schestowi@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:9ed2:1eff:feb6:a8e1) has joined #techbytes [13:04] *rianne (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes [13:04] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes [13:05] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes ● May 30 [14:56] MinceR weird :) ● May 30 [15:23] schestowitz just tried again, same outcome ● May 30 [16:04] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:06] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [16:07] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [16:11] MinceR it's particularly weird considering that there's a group command in nickserv [16:11] MinceR and identify takes a nick/account name as parameter [16:13] *rianne (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes [16:13] *liberty_box (~liberty@haii6za73zabc.irc) has joined #techbytes [16:14] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes ● May 30 [19:47] schestowitz it's not a big deal, but... [19:48] schestowitz in logs it would help if the username had something added to it [19:48] schestowitz I thought about adding some flair to a particular network [19:48] schestowitz but in practice it would definitely be harder to implement, so username differences can be done from the other network ● May 30 [20:09] schestowitz https://twitter.com/UndeadDrMcCoy/status/1398945186642857991 [20:09] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@UndeadDrMcCoy: @schestowitz Amazing how consistent the endless bullshit streaming from your face hole is [20:10] schestowitz https://twitter.com/PieroCastellano/status/1398925333643075586 [20:10] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@PieroCastellano: Not sure that the world is ready to learn the true story of that shark thing. https://t.co/XcqHMU0pnj [20:10] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: NEWS #DigitalMusicNews #Copyrights #Copyright Robert Plant Wants His Personal Archives Released for Free Afte https://t.co/Qxv8U9F94R [20:10] schestowitz https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/1398923417580093442 [20:10] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@glynmoody: surpriiiiiiiiiiiiiise https://t.co/0q9cc8uhqG [20:10] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: NEWS #CommonDreams Opinion | Kushner's Abraham Accords Didn't Produce Israel-Palestine Peace and Are Increas https://t.co/G3SrDgapiD [20:10] schestowitz https://twitter.com/maetrojl/status/1398908223940272128 [20:10] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@maetrojl: @gael_duval @schestowitz [20:11] schestowitz https://twitter.com/Symbo1ics/status/1398825607983730688 [20:11] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Symbo1ics: @schestowitz [20:11] schestowitz https://twitter.com/maetrojl/status/1398784856465690627 [20:11] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@maetrojl: @nypost @schestowitz [20:12] schestowitz https://twitter.com/ElementMan4/status/1398645423951200261 [20:12] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@ElementMan4: @schestowitz There are other ways to get them vaccine without property confiscation that will result in the destruc https://t.co/ChWK62b4Ri [20:12] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@ElementMan4: @schestowitz There are other ways to get them vaccine without property confiscation that will result in the destruc https://t.co/ChWK62b4Ri [20:13] schestowitz "There are other ways to get them vaccine without property confiscation that will result in the destruction of innovation. Next time there won't be a vaccine to distribute. Well maybe there will be but not as good. Think Sputnik or CovidVac" ● May 30 [22:46] *GNUmoon has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) ● May 30 [23:25] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:27] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [23:27] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [23:42] *rianne (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes [23:42] *liberty_box (~liberty@haii6za73zabc.irc) has joined #techbytes [23:43] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes [23:53] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techbytes