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schestowitz> Can you give me back the link? I went back on the mumble server but Nov 30 00:42
schestowitz> could not find the history.Nov 30 00:42
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2022/07/23/epo-shape-of-things-to-come/Nov 30 00:42
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | The EPO Bubble — Part XII — The Shape of Things to Come? | TechrightsNov 30 00:42
schestowitz"Nov 30 00:43
schestowitz> Can you give me back the link? I went back on the mumble server but Nov 30 00:43
schestowitz> could not find the history.Nov 30 00:43
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2022/07/23/epo-shape-of-things-to-come/Nov 30 00:43
schestowitzRe: UN Geneva - who's backNov 30 00:47
schestowitz> There is another forum on business and human rights this week.Nov 30 00:47
schestowitz> Nov 30 00:47
schestowitz> Comparing Google to the Medibank hackers.  Does that violate the CoC?Nov 30 00:47
schestowitz> Nov 30 00:47
schestowitz> I'm putting it in a blog post later this week, I'm sending this to youNov 30 00:47
schestowitz> now so you can get a feel for itNov 30 00:47
schestowitz> Nov 30 00:47
schestowitz> http://video.danielpocock.com/2022-questions-answers.mp4Nov 30 00:47
schestowitz> Nov 30 00:47
schestowitz> The poor girl next to me had never been to an event like this before.Nov 30 00:47
schestowitz> You can see her eyes moving side to side looking at how she has suddenlyNov 30 00:47
schestowitz> appeared on the huge screens at the front of the room.Nov 30 00:47
schestowitz> Nov 30 00:47
schestowitz> Full video of all sessions in Room XX todayNov 30 00:48
schestowitz> Nov 30 00:48
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schestowitz> https://media.un.org/en/asset/k16/k16y45mhjbNov 30 00:48
schestowitzThe recent coverage, based on debian-private, has been very informative.Nov 30 00:48
schestowitzBut it'll make you more enemies.Nov 30 00:48
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schestowitz[23:38] <xxxx> HowdyNov 30 01:07
schestowitz[23:38] <xxxx> https://www.saverilawfirm.com/our-cases/github-copilot-intellectual-property-investigationNov 30 01:07
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.saverilawfirm.com | GitHub Copilot Intellectual Property Litigation - Joseph Saveri Law FirmNov 30 01:07
schestowitz[23:38] <xxxx> I bring good newsNov 30 01:07
schestowitz[23:53] <xxxx> https://githubcopilotinvestigation.comNov 30 01:07
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-githubcopilotinvestigation.com | GitHub Copilot investigation · Joseph Saveri Law Firm & Matthew ButterickNov 30 01:07
schestowitz[14:33] <xxxx> Good afternoonNov 30 01:20
schestowitz[14:33] <xxxx> So I noticed something interestingNov 30 01:20
schestowitz[14:34] <xxxx> Nat is doing this Nov 30 01:20
schestowitz[14:34] <xxxx> You and I both know that he is a patent trollNov 30 01:20
schestowitz[14:34] <xxxx>  Very set on using AI to collect as much intellectual property as possibleNov 30 01:20
schestowitz[14:33] <xxxx> Good afternoonNov 30 01:21
schestowitz[14:33] <xxxx> So I noticed something interestingNov 30 01:21
schestowitz[14:34] <xxxx> Nat is doing this Nov 30 01:21
schestowitz[14:34] <xxxx> You and I both know that he is a patent trollNov 30 01:21
schestowitz[14:34] <xxxx>  Very set on using AI to collect as much intellectual property as possibleNov 30 01:21
schestowitz[14:39] <xxxx>  maybe keep this in your back pocket for a while there's some thing important coming up and we want to surprise themNov 30 01:21
schestowitz [OFE Open Source Community List] "Software patents, a renewed threat to European digital sovereigntý"Nov 30 03:30
schestowitz> Nov 30 03:30
schestowitz> J'espère que tu vas bien. Voilà que nos échanges (quasi) annuels sur les Nov 30 03:30
schestowitz> brevets sont relancés :)____Nov 30 03:30
schestowitz> Nov 30 03:30
schestowitz> __ __Nov 30 03:30
schestowitz> Nov 30 03:30
schestowitz> Voici une question que je reçois du bureau de Sergey Lagodinsky:____Nov 30 03:30
schestowitz> Nov 30 03:30
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schestowitz> Nov 30 03:31
schestowitz> We have an inquiry from a German Green MdB regarding the European Patent Nov 30 03:31
schestowitz> Office and its (democratic) accountability on the European level and Nov 30 03:31
schestowitz> specifically whether there is an MEP responsible or at least involved Nov 30 03:31
schestowitz> with the topic. Her office has researched that the regulations of the Nov 30 03:31
schestowitz> Patent Office foresee that there should be "Conferences of Ministers" of Nov 30 03:31
schestowitz> the contracting states to hold the institution accountable, which, Nov 30 03:31
schestowitz> however, has never been implemented. Would you be able to provide some Nov 30 03:31
schestowitz> insight into whether there exist accountability mechanisms for the Nov 30 03:31
schestowitz> Patent Office and whether the EP plays any role in this or who else she Nov 30 03:31
schestowitz> could reach out to? ____Nov 30 03:31
schestowitz> Nov 30 03:31
schestowitz> __ __Nov 30 03:31
schestowitz> Nov 30 03:31
schestowitz> J'aimerais bien avoir ton retour là-dessus.Nov 30 03:31
schestowitz> Si tu veux je te mets en contact avec eux par la suite.____Nov 30 03:31
schestowitz> Nov 30 03:31
schestowitz> __ __Nov 30 03:31
schestowitz> Nov 30 03:31
schestowitz> Merci.____Nov 30 03:31
schestowitz> Nov 30 03:31
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schestowitz> Nov 30 03:31
schestowitz> Bonne soirée !Nov 30 03:31
schestowitz> I have also read a suepo letter being worried about a change of Nov 30 03:31
schestowitz> examination rules for business method patents.Nov 30 03:31
schestowitz> Nov 30 03:31
schestowitz> Is it linked?Nov 30 03:32
schestowitzThose are separate things.Nov 30 03:32
schestowitz> I have also read a suepo letter being worried about a change of Nov 30 03:33
schestowitz> examination rules for business method patents.Nov 30 03:33
schestowitz> Nov 30 03:33
schestowitz> Is it linked?Nov 30 03:33
schestowitzThose are separate things.Nov 30 03:33
schestowitz> What inforgot to tell you in this corruption of the EPO is that Suepo is Nov 30 03:33
schestowitz> supporting the management in this fiscal deal, because of money in their Nov 30 03:33
schestowitz> pocket. Since dutch workers are discriminated, it gave birth to FFPO.Nov 30 03:33
schestowitzIt gave birth to a nasty yellow union in the pocket of Battistelli and Team UPC. FFPE is obsolete.Nov 30 03:33
schestowitzhttps://diaspora.psyco.fr/posts/9171542#8d27b0c0382e013b87ee28a1592b385aNov 30 03:35
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-diaspora.psyco.fr | E-mail is Simple, Secure and Robust If Decentralised and Treated as...Nov 30 03:35
schestowitz"Secure? Is this a joke?"Nov 30 03:35
schestowitzhttps://diaspora.psyco.fr/posts/9175316#4fcf844038e8013b893128a1592b385aNov 30 03:36
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-diaspora.psyco.fr | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Web Browsers: Impervious, Chrome, and Firef...Nov 30 03:36
schestowitz"Impervious. There is also Beaker."Nov 30 03:36
schestowitzhttps://diaspora.psyco.fr/posts/9195751#37c524103d7f013b08c328a1592b385aNov 30 03:36
schestowitz"moron"Nov 30 03:36
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-diaspora.psyco.fr | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): SourceHut to remove all cryptocurrency-rela...Nov 30 03:36
schestowitzhttps://diaspora.psyco.fr/posts/9197029#66f71ac03d84013b08c328a1592b385aNov 30 03:37
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-diaspora.psyco.fr | Reshare by gunnar@diasp.orgNov 30 03:37
schestowitz"This site does not open for me."Nov 30 03:37
schestowitzhttps://diaspora.psyco.fr/posts/9197029#66f71ac03d84013b08c328a1592b385aNov 30 03:37
schestowitz"https://diaspora.psyco.fr/posts/9197029#66f71ac03d84013b08c328a1592b385a'Nov 30 03:38
schestowitz"There is something missing. He did not write about the Unix legal mess."Nov 30 03:38
schestowitzThere is something missing. He did not write about the Unix legal mess.Nov 30 03:38
schestowitzhttps://diaspora.psyco.fr/posts/9211839#ece93a304110013b0af228a1592b385aNov 30 03:38
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-diaspora.psyco.fr | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): How Linux Became So Popular ⇨ http://news.t...Nov 30 03:38
schestowitzhttps://diaspora.psyco.fr/posts/9211839#ece93a304110013b0af228a1592b385aNov 30 03:39
schestowitzhttps://diaspora.psyco.fr/posts/9225451#866b4680434e013b245a28a1592b385aNov 30 03:39
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-diaspora.psyco.fr | Reshare by gunnar@diasp.orgNov 30 03:39
schestowitz"Wow, if you go there, the article is on a site called linuxiac.com This site has over two dozens of tracking/ad scripts running! (If you don't have a javascript blocker extension). Btw Deepin is very interesting visually."Nov 30 03:39
schestowitzhttps://diaspora.psyco.fr/posts/9250777#a843e85048b0013b313628a1592b385aNov 30 03:40
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-diaspora.psyco.fr | Reshare by gunnar@diasp.orgNov 30 03:40
schestowitzGreat article: https://opensource.com/article/22/11/modern-linux-commandsNov 30 03:40
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-Linux commands: Drop these old utilities for modern alternatives | Opensource.comNov 30 03:40
schestowitzhttps://diaspora.psyco.fr/posts/9283961#a9c923104fe6013b41a728a1592b385aNov 30 03:40
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-diaspora.psyco.fr | Reshare by gunnar@diasp.orgNov 30 03:40
schestowitz"WTF???!!!???"Nov 30 03:40
schestowitz> Hi Roy--Yesterday, the New York Times along Nov 30 04:27
schestowitz> <https://t.nylas.com/t1/218/6r65zhceox6x26wuycc0pzlpo/0/d5c203126301006c9c01082c14f9877e35d3d3af67efa48d9cc479afda11aa7f>with other major publications signed an open letter <https://t.nylas.com/t1/218/6r65zhceox6x26wuycc0pzlpo/1/aaafe4da25cbcd7fe9451f24cf50d55e0b7511c67f267ec3dc67fa6880d639ec>to the US government to drop the charges against Julian Assange.Nov 30 04:27
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@charlie_savage: Leaders of NYT & 4 European news outlets have called on the US govt to drop charges against Julian Assange for soli… https://t.co/2NYP7D8ZlkNov 30 04:27
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@charlie_savage: Leaders of NYT & 4 European news outlets have called on the US govt to drop charges against Julian Assange for soli… https://t.co/2NYP7D8ZlkNov 30 04:27
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.nytco.com | An Open Letter from Editors and Publishers: Publishing is Not a Crime | The New York Times CompanyNov 30 04:27
schestowitz> Nov 30 04:27
schestowitz> Captain Matthew Hoh Nov 30 04:27
schestowitz> <https://t.nylas.com/t1/218/6r65zhceox6x26wuycc0pzlpo/2/80c6a8c85972885866f507fec4d2eb760ed8f770eb66db73b6c2e88d280d6bde>, Special Agent Coleen Rowley <https://t.nylas.com/t1/218/6r65zhceox6x26wuycc0pzlpo/3/cde48cec232b1b084cd73be5d71588593c47bcf874f02d51f10d2231ecb60525>, an Afghanistan and Iraq vet and whistleblower, are available for commentary on why Assange’s publication was key in bringing to light the major flaws of both wars from the Nov 30 04:27
schestowitzbeginning.Nov 30 04:27
schestowitz> Nov 30 04:27
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-eisenhowermedianetwork.org | Capt. Matthew Hoh Biography | Eisenhower Media NetworkNov 30 04:27
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-eisenhowermedianetwork.org | Special Agent Coleen Rowley Biography | Eisenhower Media NetworkNov 30 04:27
schestowitz> Are you interested in talking to them?Nov 30 04:27
schestowitz> Nov 30 04:27
schestowitz> Let me know and thanks,Nov 30 04:27
schestowitz> EmilyNov 30 04:27
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schestowitz   <li>Nov 30 07:50
schestowitz                                    <h5><a href="https://klarasystems.com/articles/running-openzfs-choosing-between-freebsd-and-linux/">Running OpenZFS – FreeBSD vs. Linux</a></h5>Nov 30 07:50
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-klarasystems.com | Running OpenZFS – Choosing Between FreeBSD and Linux | Klara IncNov 30 07:50
schestowitz                                    <blockquote>Nov 30 07:50
schestowitz                                        <p>In December 2020, the OpenZFS project finally unified the OpenZFS codebase between the FreeBSD and Linux platforms.</p>Nov 30 07:50
schestowitz                                        <p>This helps ensure cross-compatibility between the two—but there are still some implementation and even a few feature differences worth paying attention to.</p>Nov 30 07:50
schestowitz                                    </blockquote>Nov 30 07:50
schestowitz                                </li>Nov 30 07:50
schestowitz<li>Nov 30 07:54
schestowitz                                    <h5><a href="https://nibblestew.blogspot.com/2022/11/going-inside-cairo-to-add-color.html">Going inside Cairo to add color management</a></h5>Nov 30 07:54
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-nibblestew.blogspot.com | Nibble Stew: Going inside Cairo to add color managementNov 30 07:54
schestowitz                                    <blockquote>Nov 30 07:54
schestowitz                                        <p>There are two things that I personally care about: creating fully color managed PDFs (in grayscale and CMYK) and making the image backend support images in colorspaces other than sRGB (or, more specifically, "uncalibrated RGB which most of the time is sRGB but sometimes isn't"). The first of these two is simpler as you don't need to actually do any graphics manipulations, just specify and serialize the Nov 30 07:54
schestowitzcolor data out to the PDF file. Rendering it is the PDF viewer's job. So that's what we are going to focus on.</p>Nov 30 07:54
schestowitz                                    </blockquote>Nov 30 07:54
schestowitz                                </li>Nov 30 07:54
schestowitz                                <li>Nov 30 08:01
schestowitz                                    <h5><a href="https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/11/charles-v-of-spain-secret-code-cracked.html">Charles V of Spain Secret Code Cracked</a></h5>Nov 30 08:01
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-Charles V of Spain Secret Code Cracked - Schneier on SecurityNov 30 08:01
schestowitz                                    <blockquote>Nov 30 08:01
schestowitz                                        <p>Diplomatic code cracked after 500 years: [...]</p>Nov 30 08:01
schestowitz                                    </blockquote>Nov 30 08:01
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schestowitz> Nov 30 08:23
schestowitz>     It gave birth to a nasty yellow union in the pocket of Battistelli andNov 30 08:23
schestowitz>     Team UPC. FFPE is obsolete.Nov 30 08:23
schestowitz> Nov 30 08:23
schestowitz> Nov 30 08:23
schestowitz> Well not really. They are the only ones opposed to UPC and the Seat Nov 30 08:24
schestowitz> Agreement.Nov 30 08:24
schestowitz> Search techrights for "FFPE"Nov 30 08:24
schestowitz>> The recent coverage, based on debian-private, has been very informative.Nov 30 08:27
schestowitz>>Nov 30 08:27
schestowitz>> But it'll make you more enemies.Nov 30 08:27
schestowitz> Nov 30 08:27
schestowitz> Did you notice the Debian lanyard with my name badge at the UN forum inNov 30 08:27
schestowitz> the 2018 video?  It is in the video I posted on the blog last night, notNov 30 08:27
schestowitz> the link I sent you with the 2022 video.Nov 30 08:27
schestowitz> Nov 30 08:27
schestowitz> Even little things like that seem to make them extremely upset.  ThereNov 30 08:27
schestowitz> is some unwritten rule that everybody is supposed to know that you canNov 30 08:27
schestowitz> not wear the lanyard without permission.Nov 30 08:27
schestowitz> Nov 30 08:27
schestowitz> This seems to contradict the bit in the DFSG that you can use Debian /Nov 30 08:27
schestowitz> free software for any purpose whatsoever.Nov 30 08:27
schestowitzI've not noticed that.Nov 30 08:27
schestowitzDue to money, inc. GSoC (Gulag Summer of Labour), the project is forced adapt the parcel of CoC, "professionalism", and fake "diversity" (which mean busing in people to give an illusion of balance).Nov 30 08:27
schestowitzAFAIK, Debian's CI is still Gulag-hosted.Nov 30 08:27
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schestowitz>      >     It gave birth to a nasty yellow union in the pocket ofNov 30 11:02
schestowitz>     Battistelli andNov 30 11:02
schestowitz>      >     Team UPC. FFPE is obsolete.Nov 30 11:02
schestowitz>      >Nov 30 11:02
schestowitz>      >Nov 30 11:02
schestowitz>      > Well not really. They are the only ones opposed to UPC and the SeatNov 30 11:02
schestowitz>      > Agreement.Nov 30 11:03
schestowitz>      >Nov 30 11:03
schestowitz>     Search techrights for "FFPE"Nov 30 11:03
schestowitz> Nov 30 11:03
schestowitz> Nov 30 11:03
schestowitz> I know, they were not happy to be portrayed as the lackey of Batistelli.Nov 30 11:03
schestowitzBut this is what became of them.Nov 30 11:03
schestowitz>      > I know, they were not happy to be portrayed as the lackey ofNov 30 12:18
schestowitz>     Batistelli.Nov 30 12:18
schestowitz> Nov 30 12:18
schestowitz>     But this is what became of them.Nov 30 12:18
schestowitz> Nov 30 12:18
schestowitz> Nov 30 12:18
schestowitz> It's more the reverse, suepo knows about the fraud but keep silent Nov 30 12:18
schestowitz> because of money in their pocket.Nov 30 12:18
schestowitzMaybe that's what FFPE says.Nov 30 12:18
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schestowitz>     Maybe that's what FFPE says.Nov 30 13:33
schestowitz> Nov 30 13:33
schestowitz> Nov 30 13:33
schestowitz> Is SUEPO aware of the magouillage with the building and the privileges?Nov 30 13:33
schestowitz> Nov 30 13:33
schestowitz> They talk about this expensive building in a 2015 press release, but the Nov 30 13:33
schestowitz> actual is somewhere around 2005.Nov 30 13:33
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schestowitz>>> This seems to contradict the bit in the DFSG that you can use Debian /Nov 30 14:56
schestowitz>>> free software for any purpose whatsoever.Nov 30 14:56
schestowitz>> I've not noticed that.Nov 30 14:56
schestowitz>>Nov 30 14:56
schestowitz>> Due to money, inc. GSoC (Gulag Summer of Labour), the project is forcedNov 30 14:56
schestowitz>> adapt the parcel of CoC, "professionalism", and fake "diversity" (whichNov 30 14:56
schestowitz>> mean busing in people to give an illusion of balance).Nov 30 14:57
schestowitz>>Nov 30 14:57
schestowitz>> AFAIK, Debian's CI is still Gulag-hosted.Nov 30 14:57
schestowitz> Nov 30 14:57
schestowitz> Big tech companies do this for the fake diversity or they get grilled inNov 30 14:57
schestowitz> Washington againNov 30 14:57
schestowitz> Nov 30 14:57
schestowitz> Debian does diversity for other reasons:Nov 30 14:57
schestowitz> Nov 30 14:57
schestowitz> a) to siphon off money for existing love interestsNov 30 14:57
schestowitz> Nov 30 14:57
schestowitz> b) to bait and/or outright buy new love interestsNov 30 14:57
schestowitz> Nov 30 14:57
schestowitz> Anyway, if you think the Ted Walther stuff made people mad, wait tillNov 30 14:57
schestowitz> the big expulsions come outNov 30 14:57
schestowitz> Nov 30 14:57
schestowitz> When sysadmins read what Debian hid from them they will not be able toNov 30 14:57
schestowitz> sleep.Nov 30 14:57
schestowitz> Nov 30 14:57
schestowitz> Notice the story in the news today, complete parallel of my own coverageNov 30 14:57
schestowitz> of the dentist and Megxit scandalsNov 30 14:57
schestowitz> Nov 30 14:57
schestowitz> https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/nov/30/buckingham-palace-aide-resigns-black-guest-traumatised-by-repeated-questioningNov 30 14:57
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.theguardian.com | Buckingham Palace aide resigns after black guest traumatised by repeated questioning | Monarchy | The GuardianNov 30 14:57
schestowitz"Nov 30 19:05
schestowitzDear SUEPO member,Nov 30 19:05
schestowitzSome candidates have requested the Election Committee to stand as a list for the SUEPO elections. To achieve a level playing field we would like to inform all potential candidates of the rules the Election Committee will to apply in this respect.Nov 30 19:05
schestowitzGenerally the election rules do not mention election lists. Subsequently there is no restriction for colleagues to form an election list. The election committee has decided to allow candidates to identify themselves as being part of a list in all places their name is mentioned. This includes the presentation of the candidates be it on the internet site and the ballot slip.Nov 30 19:05
schestowitzThe election committee has decided to maintain the established modus operandi of the online voting. For each voter a ballot slip showing the candidates in a random order is automatically created. Any fixed order of candidates would give the first candidates an advantage because of their position on the ballot slip. Because every voter gets the candidates presented with a different order no structural advantage is given to a candidate. We will Nov 30 19:05
schestowitzmaintain this established system. Within this system we will allow the candidates to identify themselves with a list, if they so wish. Following established practice the order of the candidates for the presentation on the internet will be draw by lot.Nov 30 19:05
schestowitzIn order to avoid misunderstandings each candidate has to clearly indicate his wish to be part of a list and also agree on all other candidates on the list. To ensure this, each list needs to provide the names of the candidates being part of that list in writing latest three days before the opening of the poll. T his list of names has to include a name for the list and needs to be dated and signed by each of the candidates featuring on the list.Nov 30 19:05
schestowitzThe Election CommitteeNov 30 19:05
schestowitz"Nov 30 19:05
schestowitz"Nov 30 19:06
schestowitzOpen Letter from the SUEPO Acting Committee to the Electoral CommitteeNov 30 19:06
schestowitzDear members of the Electoral Committee,Nov 30 19:06
schestowitzPlease find attached the open letter from the acting SUEPO TH Committee to the Election Committee.Nov 30 19:06
schestowitzKind regards,Nov 30 19:06
schestowitzThe acting SUEPO TH committeeNov 30 19:06
schestowitz'Nov 30 19:06
schestowitz"Nov 30 19:07
schestowitzDear Members,Nov 30 19:07
schestowitzThe Annual general meeting has entrusted the election committee with a direct mandate to organise the SUEPO Committee elections. Within this mandate we have been approached by a SUEPO member and potential candidate how candidates could come up as an election list.Nov 30 19:07
schestowitzThis prompted a consultation within the Election Committee, and triggered our email of the 24-11-2022.Nov 30 19:07
schestowitzThe only point resulting from our decision is, that individual candidates can now show their affiliation to a group (list) of candidates. On the voting ballot however, the only apparent change will be, that candidate X can indicate that he/she is a member of group/list N. On the ballot, like in the previous years the candidates will appear on a random order and a so-called list will not appear as such, so that no individual candidate will be Nov 30 19:07
schestowitzdisadvantaged. The lists as such will not stand for election, only it’s individual members.Nov 30 19:07
schestowitzThe candidates with most of the individual votes will be elected.Nov 30 19:07
schestowitzHence, there is no change of the election rules.Nov 30 19:07
schestowitzOur reply and decision falls within the mandate we were given by the SUEPO General Assembly.  The Electoral Committee is accountable only to the GA, and does not take instructions from any candidate, or for that matter from the Acting Committee.Nov 30 19:07
schestowitzThe Electoral CommitteeNov 30 19:07
schestowitz"Nov 30 19:07
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