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| schestowitz[TR2] | "A Debian Developer resigns from Debian in protest over AI usage, calls people who supports or uses AI “fascist”. | Aug 31 05:50 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | Many other Debian Developers publicly agree with that, saying that anyone who uses AI is a “fascist”. | Aug 31 05:50 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | A guy named David comes along and says to the guy attacking AI users as “fascist”, paraphrasing, “Nope! You’re the fascist!” | Aug 31 05:50 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | The Debian Developer who maintains part of apt then threatens to leave the project if Debian doesn’t punish David. | Aug 31 05:50 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | So Debian blocks David from Debian mailings lists. | Aug 31 05:50 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | In short: | Aug 31 05:50 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | - Debian allows people to call people “fascist”, as long as the target of the attack is AI or pro-AI. | Aug 31 05:50 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | - Debian does NOT allow pro-AI people to attack the people attacking them, even if they use the same language." | Aug 31 05:50 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | https://fossforce.com/2026/08/the-foss-force-interview-with-richard-stallman/ | Aug 31 15:56 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-fossforce.com | The FOSS Force Interview With Richard Stallman - FOSS Force | Aug 31 15:56 | |
| schestowitz[TR2] | " | Aug 31 15:56 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | There’s a claim Richard makes there, that needs substantiating. The paragraph beginning “Also in the 1990s” declares that people other than himself and the FSF “insisted on defending developers’ “right” to deny freedom to their users.” As far as I can tell, that is referring to the so-called “permissive” licenses. However, prior to that, and for all this time both Richard and the FSF have accepted such licenses | Aug 31 15:56 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | as part of the software freedom mechanisms. Certainly Richard and the FSF have often expressed a preference for copyleft licenses but I can’t see how their acceptance of permissive licenses is any different to that of the OSI. And over all these years I can’t think of any time where I saw the OSI express a preference for use of permissive licenses. Have I missed something somewhere along the line? Sure, the OSI was created with | Aug 31 15:56 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | the explicit purpose of promoting software freedom as both a concept and a practice to the business world – and part of that was telling them all the bits they’d like and letting them work out the other bits for themselves. | Aug 31 15:56 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | The other oddity is that Richard still thinks that the word “free” is “misinterpretable”. For as long as I’ve been following this topic (since reading of the announcement of the GNU project) the English word “free” has been clearly problematic. To the vast majority of people outside of software, “free” mostly means zero cost. Hence so many quotations in those days of the adage “free as in speech” (despite that | Aug 31 15:56 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | itself relying on a distinctly American constitutional sense that often doesn’t translate elsewhere). Frankly, “Open Source” has had the same problem with the word “open” – being predated re software by use in the name of The Open Group consortium a year earlier than the declaration of the Open Source Definition. The failure of software freedom proponents to come up with and use an unambiguous and catchy term is shared | Aug 31 15:56 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | by all. Just because Richard knows that when he says “free” he means freedom does not make the word misinterpretable anywhere else. | Aug 31 15:56 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | p.s. personally I try to always say “software freedom” in my writing but accept that it’s not as catchy. | Aug 31 15:56 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | " | Aug 31 15:56 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | " | Aug 31 19:05 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | yet the EU is wasting obscene sums on severely outdated fighter jets instead | Aug 31 19:05 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | it is the very concept of fighter jet which has become antiquated | Aug 31 19:05 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | at this point they are expensive boondoggles, for the most part | Aug 31 19:05 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | yes, some are still needed, but it is past time to begin phasing them | Aug 31 19:05 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | out and phasing in drones. | Aug 31 19:05 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Yet Russia is doing the opposite: | Aug 31 19:05 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | https://abcnews.com/US/wireStory/army-shut-unit-europe-focused-learning-drone-warfare-135821683 | Aug 31 19:05 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | https://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-army-ending-drone-battalion-ukraine/ | Aug 31 19:05 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | " | Aug 31 19:05 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-abcnews.com | Army will shut down a unit in Europe focused on learning drone warfare - ABC News | Aug 31 19:05 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes- ( status 406 @ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-army-ending-drone-battalion-ukraine/ ) | Aug 31 19:05 | |
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