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DaemonFC[m]He dings the movie for the T-1000 becoming "the floor" after the T-800 says "Only an object of approximately equal size.". The obvious answer is that it could spread itself thinly enough to blend in with the floor and get a sample of the security guard (its victim), but that it could not become a "pack of cigarettes" because it was such a small object that it couldn't pack the entire mass of the T-1000 into that formJul 01 00:02
DaemonFC[m]Although, in TSCC, Catherine Weaver (a T-1001) was able to break off a piece of itself to put it in a fish tank as an eel. Jul 01 00:02
DaemonFC[m]Although, in TSCC, the T-1001 shows off its abilities when it quickly picks off dozens of heavily armed guards much faster than the T-1000 could with crude stabbing weapons.Jul 01 00:04
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DaemonFC[m]MinceR: Incremental upgrades ftw!Jul 01 00:05
DaemonFC[m]If we consider all of the movies and the TV show to be valid through the use of alternate timelines, it appears that the best models are refined versions of something we had seen in a previous movie.Jul 01 00:06
DaemonFC[m]The T-850 and the T-1001.Jul 01 00:06
DaemonFC[m]I keep telling people, WAIT FOR THE SERVICE PACK! Nobody listens. :)Jul 01 00:07
MinceRew, "service pack"Jul 01 00:09
DaemonFC[m] 01 00:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Firefox 78.0, See All New Features, Updates and FixesJul 01 00:12
DaemonFC[m]This is like the 4th release in a row where nothing really notable happened.Jul 01 00:12
AVRStoday it's good when nothing happensJul 01 00:12
AVRS(introduction of compatibility restrictions is not nothing)Jul 01 00:13
MinceR"nothing" is the best thing mozilla is capable of doing latelyJul 01 00:14
DaemonFC[m]The new ExFAT driver looks like maybe 3,000+ less lines of code.Jul 01 00:20
DaemonFC[m]The old one was like almost 9,000 lines and it contained (among other things) functions that were defined but then never used anywhere.Jul 01 00:20
DaemonFC[m]Laundry list of problems that Greg KH noted.Jul 01 00:21
DaemonFC[m]Shouldn't have ever been in Staging.... It was too much of a mess for Staging.Jul 01 00:21
DaemonFC[m]Are they really that desperate to say the kernel supports ExFat that they put that piece of shit in for one cycle on the way to a much cleaner driver?Jul 01 00:22
DaemonFC[m]I'd be too afraid to even mount a file system with that.Jul 01 00:22
DaemonFC[m]"kmod(exfat.ko)"Jul 01 00:26
DaemonFC[m]Well, the new ExFAT driver is in Fedora 32 in the kernel-core image of Linux 5.7.6.Jul 01 00:27
DaemonFC[m]They did not build the old staging driver.Jul 01 00:27
DaemonFC[m]The file system itself isn't well designed, but the comments on the code quality of the last one were funny.Jul 01 00:29
DaemonFC[m]"How did this ever work?"Jul 01 00:29
DaemonFC[m]Enough to stick it in Android and call it a day, I guess.Jul 01 00:30
MinceRthey'll merge all sorts of shit now that they have Linus out of the wayJul 01 00:36
DaemonFC[m]Samsung is listed as the maintainer of this new driver. Nobody else.Jul 01 00:37
DaemonFC[m]Microsoft obviously wants ExFAT in Linux for whatever reason.Jul 01 00:38
DaemonFC[m]It's like 15 years old now. Something like that.Jul 01 00:38
DaemonFC[m]The patents will expire soon anyway.Jul 01 00:38
MinceRthey'll try to milk that little time for all it's worth anywayJul 01 00:39
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: Of course, patents don't mean it's doing something clever. It just means it's doing something in a way that probably didn't have prior art. Jul 01 00:39
MinceReven that is not probable anymoreJul 01 00:39
DaemonFC[m]MP3 patents were mostly a patent on doing something in a way that was stupid and then patenting it so that nobody could implement MP3 without paying.Jul 01 00:39
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: Yeah, I'm really surprised that there's an open source xHE-AAC encoder now. Those patents will be running through 2036 and I can't name a single reason why anyone would use it or want to.Jul 01 00:41
DaemonFC[m]Much less enough for someone to decide to make an open source implementation.Jul 01 00:41
MinceR"open source" is now someone's method of luring people into the patent trapJul 01 00:41
MinceRjust as it was with monoJul 01 00:42
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, you can use the program, but it doesn't give you a patent license.Jul 01 00:42
MinceRand html5Jul 01 00:42
DaemonFC[m]So as soon as you do, you're in trouble.Jul 01 00:42
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: 45,000Jul 01 00:50
DaemonFC[m]I think it's pretty bad that we're down to the "Bullshit number" being 200,000 dead by October 1st.Jul 01 00:51
DaemonFC[m]Seeing as it's like 130,100 right now.Jul 01 00:51
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DaemonFC[m]My guess is 250,000 by October would be closer to what's going to happen.Jul 01 00:52
DaemonFC[m]Who knows?Jul 01 00:52
DaemonFC[m]I'd say 250,000 is closer.Jul 01 00:52
DaemonFC[m]Trump managed to turn the US into a leper colony where everyone else, including shit ass Mexico, is closing the borders to keep us out.Jul 01 00:53
DaemonFC[m]For years and years they were telling their citizens how to sneak into the US and avoid getting caught and stuff.Jul 01 00:53
DaemonFC[m]Now they want the border shut.Jul 01 00:53
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DaemonFC[m] 01 02:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | US buys up world stock of key Covid-19 drug remdesivir | US news | The GuardianJul 01 02:01
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Money talks.Jul 01 02:01
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DaemonFC[m]250,000 new cases in the past 5 days.Jul 01 02:12
DaemonFC[m]Fauci says "We don't _totally_ have it under control. Jul 01 02:12
DaemonFC[m]Someone said I had a cruel sense of humor.Jul 01 02:12
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DaemonFC[m]I'll have to remember that one if I ever get into court again.Jul 01 02:16
DaemonFC[m]"How do you plead?"Jul 01 02:16
DaemonFC[m]Well, I didn't totally not do it, your honor. Jul 01 02:16
DaemonFC[m]It doesn't take a rocket scientist to tell you that it'll end up back in the midwest in a big way in a week or two maybe.Jul 01 02:34
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DaemonFC[m]---Jul 01 02:45
DaemonFC[m]The UK has always upheld patents, backing the argument of pharma companies that they need their 20-year monopoly to recoup the money they put into research and development. But other countries have shown an interest in compulsory licensing. “It is a question of what countries are prepared to do if this becomes a problem,” said Hill.Jul 01 02:45
DaemonFC[m]---Jul 01 02:45
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, choose. Your corporate overlords or riots in the streets because you're killing your own people to "uphold patents".Jul 01 02:45
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schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: so the fight to contain this this in trumpland seems to be over... with a surrenderJul 01 03:59
schestowitztoo many cases now, even active onesJul 01 04:00
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, it's an avalanche.Jul 01 04:00
schestowitzlike 1.4 millions... may need to buy a lot of bed... from whichever country makes themJul 01 04:00
DaemonFC[m]All you can do is try to not be there.Jul 01 04:00
schestowitzhospital bedsJul 01 04:00
schestowitzbecause it doesn't spread linearlyJul 01 04:00
schestowitzquadraticJul 01 04:00
schestowitzand you need to house patients somewhereJul 01 04:00
schestowitzI think FL is already over capacityJul 01 04:00
schestowitzmay spill over patients to other statesJul 01 04:01
schestowitzbefore it's another NYS/NYCJul 01 04:01
schestowitz40k+ deathsJul 01 04:01
schestowitzthe idea is, you shut the borderJul 01 04:01
schestowitzseal the thingJul 01 04:02
schestowitzwhen Trump ACTUALLY had to do this, he failedJul 01 04:02
schestowitzinstead mocking the masksJul 01 04:02
schestowitzso spreading it internally, domesticallyJul 01 04:02
schestowitz"BUT THE MEXICANS!!!!"Jul 01 04:02
schestowitzMexican immigrants or southern border 'infiltrators' did not kill 130k USiansJul 01 04:02
schestowitz+46,042 new casesJul 01 04:03
schestowitzyesterday aloneJul 01 04:03
schestowitzin the UK we got that many in over a monthJul 01 04:03
schestowitzso they're registered and tracked, to avoid further spreadJul 01 04:03
schestowitzSpain reported 9 deaths yesterdayJul 01 04:04
schestowitz301 new casesJul 01 04:04
schestowitzonly 617 still in serious conditionsJul 01 04:04
schestowitzafter 296k known casesJul 01 04:04
schestowitzso they're sort of finishing the thingJul 01 04:04
schestowitz5.4 ml tests laterJul 01 04:04
schestowitzin India it's now spreading faster, but it's hard to socially distance there... people live in high-density areasJul 01 04:05
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schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: rianne read on BBC (Gates-funded) that...Jul 01 04:08
schestowitzFauci says real rate of infection is 100k per dayJul 01 04:08
schestowitzsome people say he's a puppet for GatesJul 01 04:08
schestowitzbut all I saw is a photo op with Bill's dad, Bill/WilliamJul 01 04:08
schestowitzwhich wasn't enough to show him as a puppetJul 01 04:09
schestowitzalbeit maybe his institution's funding comes from the fake charityJul 01 04:09
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: The fucktards are going to be the ones that pay for that.Jul 01 04:10
DaemonFC[m]Believing the anti-mask bullshit.Jul 01 04:10
DaemonFC[m]It's getting the worst in all the places that supported Trump.Jul 01 04:11
DaemonFC[m]Notice that?Jul 01 04:11
DaemonFC[m]More Trump voters, the worse it gets.Jul 01 04:11
DaemonFC[m]New York got attention because it's big.Jul 01 04:11
DaemonFC[m]All these little nowhere places that are getting hit worse, per capita, are being ignored.Jul 01 04:12
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schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: how do they count deaths?Jul 01 04:35
schestowitziirc, they try in the nazi regime (aka Trump House) to get cdc to alter the statsJul 01 04:35
schestowitznot sure how, I forgot the detailsJul 01 04:35
schestowitzbut basically, they were trying to lowball the numbersJul 01 04:36
schestowitzsomething which afaik we don't do in the ukJul 01 04:36
schestowitzany death with covid somewhere in the death cert gets counted as suchJul 01 04:36
schestowitzhence the high numbers here and in belgiumJul 01 04:36
schestowitzit's bad for tourismJul 01 04:36
schestowitzbut it can give you insight into what really goes on, why people are in hospital in the first placeJul 01 04:37
DaemonFC[m]The CDC data lags. At one point, the far right conspiracy was only 4,000 had died, and that was the first week of May.Jul 01 04:37
DaemonFC[m]Now the CDC has tallied 58,000.Jul 01 04:37
DaemonFC[m]So they're quoting that.Jul 01 04:37
schestowitzsee case/death ratioJul 01 04:37
schestowitzcompare to other countriesJul 01 04:37
schestowitzin china it's about 1:20Jul 01 04:38
schestowitzsome countries 1:100Jul 01 04:38
schestowitzwhich imho means they fake itJul 01 04:38
DaemonFC[m]It's 1 in 10 so far here, roughly.Jul 01 04:39
DaemonFC[m]It's been falling gradually as people recover.Jul 01 04:39
DaemonFC[m]We'll plateau eventually and get something closer to the final figures.Jul 01 04:39
DaemonFC[m]I'm guessing 5-6% which is what I said in March.Jul 01 04:39
schestowitzpeople who did not recover yet don't countJul 01 04:39
DaemonFC[m]Right.Jul 01 04:40
schestowitzso, 5 million cases, finished, would be half a million dead at mostJul 01 04:40
schestowitz50 million cases, up to 5 million deathsJul 01 04:40
DaemonFC[m]The 10% figure is with like 1.25 million cases with a resolution, so little higher than 10%.Jul 01 04:40
schestowitz330 million, you get the pictureJul 01 04:40
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, but some people don't.Jul 01 04:40
schestowitzit started as a small thing in seattle areaJul 01 04:41
schestowitzwith about 20-30 us deathsJul 01 04:41
DaemonFC[m]Mandy asked why we couldn't just drive into Wisconsin and go out to eat for our anniversary.Jul 01 04:41
DaemonFC[m]I gave up and shaved my head.Jul 01 04:42
DaemonFC[m]I don't really want to go in to get a hair cut right now and if people knew what was really going on, they wouldn't either.Jul 01 04:42
DaemonFC[m]The people in Congress are all smarter than Trump.Jul 01 04:43
DaemonFC[m]Even the Republicans have cut the crap and started wearing masks and such.Jul 01 04:43
DaemonFC[m]By setting a poor example that only his voters are going to go along with, it ensures that a disproportional number of his own voters are going to die. Especially since it's mostly killing old people in the first place.Jul 01 04:44
schestowitzmaybe Trump will get it soon or already had it and hid itJul 01 04:44
DaemonFC[m]He's just stacking the death toll even more with his own voters. Jul 01 04:44
schestowitzthey washed him down with chlorine :-)Jul 01 04:44
DaemonFC[m]I can't imagine how he would stay out of the hospital.Jul 01 04:45
schestowitzmaybe near election time 'liberal' press will stun him with some real numbers re how many people his policies killedJul 01 04:45
DaemonFC[m]He's old, fat, and male. Kinda hard not to have visible symptoms.Jul 01 04:45
schestowitzand then he's sue and fumeJul 01 04:45
schestowitzhe'dJul 01 04:45
DaemonFC[m]It's beginning to look a lot like fuck this if you ask me.Jul 01 04:46
DaemonFC[m]Anyone.....dumb listen to him, gets what they get.Jul 01 04:46
DaemonFC[m]If that sounds mean, I really don't care.Jul 01 04:46
DaemonFC[m]I think we'll probably see another bad month or two and then be over the hump. It's gotta run out of people to infect at some point, for the most part, enough to start slowing it down.Jul 01 04:53
DaemonFC[m]Look at New York. They got hit hard and lost about 0.2% of the entire state population, but it's slowed way down since then.Jul 01 04:53
DaemonFC[m]I think we're going to lose at least half a million in the US by next March.Jul 01 04:54
DaemonFC[m]Probably more than that.Jul 01 04:54
DaemonFC[m]It's something that the Germans admitted to the public. How bad it could get.Jul 01 04:54
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schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: ● NEWS ● #Propublica #Finance ☞ Millions of Homeowners Who Need Flood Insurance Don’t Know It — Thanks to FEMA Jul 01 11:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Millions of Homeowners Who Need Flood Insurance Don’t Know It — Thanks to FEMA — ProPublicaJul 01 11:06
schestowitzvJul 01 11:08
schestowitz● NEWS ● #Propublica ☞ How a #PGandE Contractor With a Sketchy Past Made Millions After California’s Deadliest Fire #EnergyJul 01 11:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | How a PG&E Contractor With a Sketchy Past Made Millions After California’s Deadliest Fire — ProPublicaJul 01 11:08
schestowitznatural disaster one after anotherJul 01 11:08
schestowitzthankfully we have no such disasters hereJul 01 11:08
schestowitzthis type of thing can exacerbate passage of virusesJul 01 11:08
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora. - devel - Fedora Mailing-ListsJul 01 12:29
XRevan86Fedora is quite a peculiar peach.Jul 01 12:30
XRevan86> move to uefi only supported boot which  has been available on any common intel based x86 platform since atleast  2005.Jul 01 12:36
XRevan86What an interesting assessment, completely removed from boring reality?Jul 01 12:36
XRevan86I've seen machines that lack EFI boot manufactured as recently as 2013.Jul 01 12:38
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MinceRkind of fits themJul 01 13:08
MinceRas they couldn't possibly care less about their usersJul 01 13:09
MinceRthey're trying to force everything poettering or the nsa likes down everyone's throatsJul 01 13:09
MinceRhedrat products are for masochistsJul 01 13:09
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oiaohmXRevan86:  there have been some really wacky glitches with some motherboard vendors even quite recently.Jul 01 14:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | No UEFI boot options after Bios update : ASRockJul 01 14:11
oiaohmBetween the ones that shipped bios only and the UEFI that glitches up to Bios only its a little too soon to drop booting by bios method.Jul 01 14:11
oiaohm   this year if intel sticks to what they said in 2017 should support for legacy bios disappear out new motherboards.Jul 01 14:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel Planning To End Legacy BIOS Support By 2020 - PhoronixJul 01 14:15
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MinceR"glitch" :>Jul 01 14:28
XRevan86oiaohm: Right, how could I forget :)Jul 01 14:29
oiaohmYes up until 2020 it was still aproved by intel to release a EUFI firmware that was a type 1 UEFI that is a UEFI that only runs in CSM mode/bios mode.Jul 01 15:05
oiaohmSo I would say 2030 when bios support could pull the disappearing act out of distributions.Jul 01 15:05
oiaohmUEFI being present has not meant you had EFI boot mode.Jul 01 15:06
MinceRlolJul 01 15:08
MinceRbest kind of UEFIJul 01 15:08
MinceRyou get a lot of extra bloat with the sole purpose of being technically UEFIJul 01 15:08
schestowitzAriadne: viera offlineJul 01 15:20
Narratorfor secure reson ... UEFI force us to use unsecure systems ...Jul 01 15:24
psydreadno one forces anyone to use anything, thoughJul 01 15:26
Narratorwell, psydread go to work in any corpoJul 01 15:28
Narratorand try to ask for laptop without uefiJul 01 15:28
Narratorbecause you don;t want to be ... forced ... ;-)Jul 01 15:28
psydreadNarrator, if you work for that corpo you use the hardware that corpo supportsJul 01 15:28
psydreadand in your own time you use your own hardwarJul 01 15:29
psydreadeJul 01 15:29
Narratori don't want to be secure only in my free time;-)Jul 01 15:31
psydreadI got into trouble for installing linux on my laptop and then "fixing" the endpoint encryption that was used for windows, so they had to prepare another laptop for meJul 01 15:31
psydreadwell, don't go to work for said corpo then 🙂Jul 01 15:31
Narratorwell, i have lots of other examples Jul 01 15:32
Narratorwithout corpo tooJul 01 15:32
psydreadwell, maybe you should tell us a bit more thenJul 01 15:33
Narratorbtw, i work in teh corpo on C7 Jul 01 15:33
Narratorbut you don't telm me more about my first exampleJul 01 15:34
Narratordon;t use is not an optionJul 01 15:34
Narratori need to be secure in work tooJul 01 15:34
Narratorbtw, how is this posible to not install linux today ?Jul 01 15:37
Narratorit's easy as abcJul 01 15:37
Narratorif we have ... permission Jul 01 15:37
psydreadthen maybe you need to convince the corpo of the fact that secure systems are important to the sustainability of the corpo itselfJul 01 15:37
psydreadbecause that company was windows-centric on the desktop, as many still are these daysJul 01 15:38
Narratori don't need to do that Jul 01 15:39
Narratorthey allow me to install C7 Jul 01 15:39
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Narratorbecase this is for secure Jul 01 15:39
NarratorreasonJul 01 15:40
Narratorwe don;t talk about corpo polisty we talk about uefi psydreadJul 01 15:40
psydreadthen I don't see the point of bringing this up at allJul 01 15:40
MinceRjust learn to live without food or waterJul 01 15:40
psydreadwell, get a pinebook pro or somethingJul 01 15:40
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MinceRalso, corpo might give you a hewlett-packard craptop which allegedly supports "legacy boot", you can even set it up in uefi setupJul 01 15:41
MinceRit just happens to not work, everJul 01 15:41
MinceRbecause hewlett-packard can't code nor buy nor steal firmware that worksJul 01 15:41
psydreadI have a hewlett-packard laptop which can indeed not do "legacy boot", because it simply doesn't workJul 01 15:42
psydreadonce that laptop dies, I will salvage the components and put them in a computer that isn't infected with uefi or generally suitable for redmondwareJul 01 15:43
Narratorwhich hp?Jul 01 15:44
Narratorthe boot software can be hackedJul 01 15:44
psydreadhp zbook studio g3Jul 01 15:44
psydreadI'd rather notJul 01 15:44
Narratorcheck the postmarketos they start linux on iphone7 Jul 01 15:44
MinceRthe one i had the misfortune of using for work was a "ProBook"Jul 01 15:45
MinceRnot sure what was "pro" about itJul 01 15:45
Narratori have two 640 G2 Jul 01 15:46
Narratorcurerently lenovo t480 Jul 01 15:46
Narratorwork without problem ... for nowJul 01 15:46
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MinceR 01 16:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4386794)Jul 01 16:25
Narratorbe more happy copy one line of code from stackoverflow ...Jul 01 16:31
schestowitzhappens to all of us...Jul 01 16:31
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schestowitzsome people even call that "coding"Jul 01 16:32
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xwindows"" .. a programmers koan :]Jul 01 16:34
Narratorwell, we don;t need programmers Jul 01 16:35
Narratorwe have software on ms github Jul 01 16:35
Narratorwe then let's rewrite it in MS basicJul 01 16:35
Narratordon;t worry, we have lots of time, real programmers have no right to sell his work if they don't use MSJul 01 16:37
Narratorwe have all world data, i mean cloud era ... you know ...Jul 01 16:38
xwindowsThe Cloud has you?Jul 01 16:39
Narratorme too:)Jul 01 16:40
MinceRthe cartel has youJul 01 16:40
MinceRmicrosloth, ibm, crApple, intel, dumbFuckBookJul 01 16:40
Narratorwell, the programmers are not need anymoreJul 01 16:41
smnthermesNazIBMJul 01 16:41
MinceRDehomagJul 01 16:41
insmodppaWe won't need any more MS programmers once Jon Skeet writes AI to write Jon Skeet code.Jul 01 16:41
MinceRwe won't need any more programmers once we're extinctJul 01 16:42
Narratorwell, AI is a fake ...Jul 01 16:43
Narratorlike VRJul 01 16:43
xwindowsWhat we have now is *not* AIJul 01 16:44
MinceRwe're getting thereJul 01 16:45
Narratorsome new algorithms + huge part of open source + few percent of AIJul 01 16:45
MinceR 01 16:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - AIJul 01 16:46
xwindowsYea, once the AIs invent their own deity :]Jul 01 16:46
MinceRwe probably won't even need to add lead to the water supplyJul 01 16:46
MinceRit will just happen on its ownJul 01 16:46
MinceR 01 16:51
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XRevan86MinceR: Pretty complicated.Jul 01 16:52
schestowitzmaybe based on a real design done with metalJul 01 16:53
schestowitziterative designsJul 01 16:53
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xwindowsGoogle Cloud outage in us-east1-c and us-east1-dJul 01 16:54
xwindows 01 16:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Google Cloud Status DashboardJul 01 16:54
Narratorbtw, i love the cloud ,  it kills my competition ;-)Jul 01 16:57
schestowitzwhich is..?Jul 01 16:57
MinceRStinking CloudJul 01 16:57
schestowitzaka Far(TM)Jul 01 16:58
Narratorother admins ...Jul 01 16:58
schestowitzgoogle as vpsJul 01 16:58
schestowitzor server hostJul 01 16:58
MinceR"You solved the box, we came. Now you must come with us, taste our pleasures."Jul 01 16:58
schestowitzbeen there, 20 years ago..Jul 01 16:58
Narratorthey try to admin other computers without rights to anything ...Jul 01 16:59
Narratorlots of them changed profession to data scientists or sth ... :))))Jul 01 16:59
xwindowsWhat's a 'sth ...'Jul 01 17:00
Narratori.e. devops ... - neither programmer nor admin ;-)Jul 01 17:02
Narratorvery funny times:DJul 01 17:02
xwindowsdevops, jit, waterfall <insert latest fad here>Jul 01 17:02
Narratordevops - copy data to cloud and fail fast ...Jul 01 17:03
xwindowsagile, lean .. errr :oJul 01 17:03
Narratorwe will take care about your data:DJul 01 17:04
Narratorthere is bigger problem to gest data than to write code to use them Jul 01 17:05
xwindowsAUP, CDM, DSDM, Extreme programming ...Jul 01 17:05
Narrator.. get ...Jul 01 17:05
Narratorwell, agile is not so bad Jul 01 17:05
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Narratornew cloudshit idea are wrongJul 01 17:06
xwindowsJargon words for what you should know already!Jul 01 17:06
Narratoras i say agile is not badJul 01 17:07
Narratorwe don't need to back to waterfall and closed source Jul 01 17:08
Narratorbut the commons need to be protected;-)Jul 01 17:09
xwindowsAgile: collaborative group software iterative development.Jul 01 17:09
xwindowsChop the job up into chunks, hand it off to small teams. Then joint all the parts up and test and repeat - YEA ?Jul 01 17:10
xwindowsback in ten ..Jul 01 17:10
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MinceRdownplay the importance of documentationJul 01 17:22
MinceRwonder why your software is unmaintainableJul 01 17:23
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psydroidI just saw the link about FedoraJul 01 17:29
psydroidI guess nothing really changed for me or anyone I know, as none of them run FedoraJul 01 17:30
XRevan86psydroid: I don't really think this proposition will go anywhere.Jul 01 17:30
MinceR:>Jul 01 17:30
MinceRthey'll get rid of their users like mozillaJul 01 17:30
psydroidXRevan86, I hope it will be successful, thoughJul 01 17:31
XRevan86psydroid: Because then Fedora will finally be undone?Jul 01 17:32
*Now talking on #techrightsJul 01 17:35
*Topic for #techrights is: | Channel #techrights for :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovellJul 01 17:35
*Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012Jul 01 17:35
psydroidwith the RHEL 8 install I had on this laptop not even dd worked, so I had to reboot to Debian to create a working USB flash drive for installing CentOS 8.2Jul 01 17:35
psydroidso the only conclusion for me is that they are slowly but surely turning it into Vista 10Jul 01 17:36
schestowitzhad to reboot for patches, pasting diffsJul 01 17:38
schestowitz<psydroid> I couldn't install CentOS 8.1 on a PATA hard drive in my old desktop and the CentOS 8.2 install I did on this laptop is pretty much useless, so I will get rid of it as wellJul 01 17:38
schestowitz XRevan86, the more happy non-users the better, yesJul 01 17:38
schestowitz(for the logger)Jul 01 17:38
XRevan86PATA drive – weird, that's not something that's easy to break.Jul 01 17:39
psydroidthey just removed support for it from their kernel and I'm not going to try to work around itJul 01 17:40
XRevan86Do they comb through the kernel looking for what to disable?Jul 01 17:42
psydroidit looks like that to meJul 01 17:43
psydroidall the old stuff has to goJul 01 17:43
psydroidI will eventually buy SATA SSDs for that machine, but even then I will not install a Red Hat operating systemJul 01 17:44
NarratorC7 is enough:)Jul 01 17:50
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DaemonFC[m]225 ILND bankruptcy filings yesterday.Jul 01 18:31
DaemonFC[m]Slowed down today so far though.Jul 01 18:31
DaemonFC[m]Seems a lot of them were trying to get it in at the last minute before the court would have wanted documents for June as well.Jul 01 18:31
DaemonFC[m]The mayor of Seattle got fed up with the CHOP protesters and sent the cops in.Jul 01 18:37
DaemonFC[m]38 arrested and the whole "zone" has been cleared.Jul 01 18:38
DaemonFC[m]"It is over because of the violence," Seattle community leader Andre Taylor told CNN last week. "I've told people here don't be focused on the location. CHOP is not a location, it is an idea."Jul 01 18:54
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DaemonFC[m]If South Park is any reference, this would be the time for Operation Nuke the Imagination Through the Imagination Doorway. MinceR Jul 01 18:54
MinceR:)Jul 01 18:55
*DaemonFC[m] sent a long message: < >Jul 01 18:56
DaemonFC[m]"Defund the police. BLM!"Jul 01 18:56
MinceRhell is other peopleJul 01 18:57
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: Fox News promised an all out war with the ISIS people in Technical Vehicles with mounted machine guns and such.Jul 01 18:57
DaemonFC[m]I was very disappointed. I might complain to the manager.Jul 01 18:58
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MinceRdid fox noise also report ISIS people in chaz/chop?Jul 01 18:58
DaemonFC[m]It showed pictures of black people with AR-15s wearing masks, which were actually lifted from Michigan, where Democratic legislators had private security details because of the Open Up! protests.Jul 01 18:59
DaemonFC[m]They lifted those people and inserted them into articles about Seattle.Jul 01 18:59
MinceR:>Jul 01 18:59
DaemonFC[m]"Oh, you know, you've seen one n***r wearing a mask with a machine gun, you've seen 'em all. This should scare the shit out of our viewers and get the fence sitters back over to Trump!"Jul 01 19:01
DaemonFC[m]*click click* "Now they're in Seattle!"Jul 01 19:01
DaemonFC[m]I'm just glad I don't live in Mississippi. In general, that applies.Jul 01 19:02
DaemonFC[m]But, in particular, because I'd have to vote no on replacing the Confederate flag with one that declares the entire state populations believes in God.Jul 01 19:02
DaemonFC[m]At least the Confederate Flag reminds us that the South is "revolting".Jul 01 19:03
MinceRewJul 01 19:03
schestowitzAriadne: awake?Jul 01 19:05
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XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: How does the proposed flag look is?Jul 01 19:08
DaemonFC[m]It doesn't say. It hands it to a commission and the only two requirements are the flag of the Army of Northern Virginia (Confederate Battle Flag) must be removed, and the new one has to say "In God We Trust" as the state motto.Jul 01 19:09
XRevan86Now captioned "Slavery is not a bad thing © G-dЪ?"?Jul 01 19:09
XRevan86Strangely uncontraditoryJul 01 19:10
XRevan86If Mr. G-d says slavery is not a bad thing, then okay, in God we trust.Jul 01 19:11
schestowitz> Turns out Less is a GNU project. Thank Tom for the link that helped discover that. I'm not saying he knows or not.Jul 01 19:12
schestowitz> Jul 01 19:13
schestowitz> 01 19:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | less (Unix) - WikipediaJul 01 19:13
schestowitz> Jul 01 19:13
schestowitz> And it is GitHub-based. The page I've worked with to list 353 GNU projects covers most, though it's partial. Fribidi isn't listed there. Tom's link lists it. Tom's link lists httptunnel (one of the redirects) as well.Jul 01 19:13
schestowitz> Jul 01 19:13
schestowitz> Basically this will add a couple GNU projects that are GitHub-based. This may even bring the percentage up from 48.Jul 01 19:13
schestowitz> Jul 01 19:13
schestowitz> GNU Less started using GitHub for issues in June 2019. That's before rms resigned, and nearly a year After Microsoft announced they were taking over.Jul 01 19:13
schestowitz> Jul 01 19:13
schestowitz> Nice, huh? Maybe I will make my own version of Less, since GNU has handed theirs over to Microsoft.Jul 01 19:13
XRevan86moss?Jul 01 19:14
schestowitz> let me know if you have any objections regarding the new page. im sure we can work something out if necessary. you also have root, but thats likely neither here nor there apart from context.Jul 01 19:16
schestowitzThe new page looks OK to me. I linked to it an hour or so ago.Jul 01 19:16
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schestowitzAriadne: cheers mate!Jul 01 20:09
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DaemonFC[m]A hive mind intelligence would be much  more terrifying than a single malignant AI.Jul 01 20:48
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DaemonFC[m]MinceR: The T-800 had Bluetooth LE before Apple made it cool!Jul 01 20:48
MinceR:>Jul 01 20:49
DaemonFC[m]The T-1000 is obviously in Read/Write mode all the time. It has (especially in the deleted scenes) highly sophisticated emotional responses.Jul 01 20:50
DaemonFC[m]Sadistic, even. It goes and kills a dog as revenge for blowing its cover, because it was aggravated, even though this did not help the mission. Jul 01 20:51
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MinceRniceJul 01 20:53
MinceRwell, it does help the mission in that that particular dog will no longer be able to blow its coverJul 01 20:53
DaemonFC[m]The Robert Patrick Model T-1000 seems to have a broader range of emotions than the T-1001 in TSCC. Although it has advanced capabilities (multiple autonomous units, much more control over its form when creating weapons from it....), it seems independent thought has been reigned in somewhat.Jul 01 20:53
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AVRSXRevan86: there is "most" alreadyJul 01 20:54
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DaemonFC[m]<MinceR "well, it does help the mission i"> Not really. The T-800 had warned that the T-1000 was already there and that it had likely already killed John's foster parents.Jul 01 21:03
DaemonFC[m]The mission for the T-800 in T2 and T3 is basically acquire John Connor and get him away from the T-1000/T-X and from where the bombs will fall.Jul 01 21:04
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DaemonFC[m]In each movie, the mission changes. In T2, because it's also programmed to obey any order issued by John Connor and in T3, because it had killed John Connor and was captured and reprogrammed and ordered to obey his wife. Which she finds out about in the past because she accidentally orders it to help them rescue her dad and stop Skynet. Jul 01 21:05
DaemonFC[m]That's kind of a plot hole, really. You'd think that you'd tell it something like, "Okay, when you get to the past, you'll find me, but you will stay on mission even if that version of me tells you to do something else." :)Jul 01 21:06
DaemonFC[m]Seeing as how you'd have no idea what you would tell it to do in the past because that past version of you doesn't exist yet. :)Jul 01 21:07
DaemonFC[m]Unless it's a closed loop. Jul 01 21:08
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DaemonFC[m]MinceR: 01 21:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-YouTubeJul 01 21:18
DaemonFC[m]Fox News footage of the police clearing out CHOP.Jul 01 21:18
AVRS 01 21:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Uppercasing ‘Black’ | The New York Times CompanyJul 01 21:32
AVRSWell, "blacklist" should be returned then, since it is not uppercased!Jul 01 21:34
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AVRSfuck YandexJul 01 21:57
XRevan86AVRS: "there is "most" already" – hm?Jul 01 21:57
AVRSXRevan86: an ncurses program similar to less and moreJul 01 21:58
XRevan86ah :)Jul 01 21:58
AVRS 01 21:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Debian -- Details of package most in bullseyeJul 01 21:58
AVRSYandex won't send my message, says it was rejected under suspicions of spamJul 01 21:59
*XRevan86 pats his postfix on the back.Jul 01 22:01
AVRSnow it demands that I enter a phone numberJul 01 22:02
AVRSProbably because I couldn't enter the password many times.Jul 01 22:02
XRevan86AVRS: Yes, that's an opportunity for it to force you to add a phone number.Jul 01 22:03
MinceR> We will retain lowercase treatment for “white.”Jul 01 22:10
MinceRSJW scumJul 01 22:10
MinceRi wonder what these people believe their game to beJul 01 22:11
MinceRto get almost everyone, no matter how unwilling, to join the right wing?Jul 01 22:11
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DaemonFC[m]<MinceR "to get almost everyone, no matte"> Or plants from the far right to get people disgusted enough with the "left" to join them.Jul 01 22:22
DaemonFC[m]Then again, as soon as the police go away in a "progressive" area, the number of people shitting into the open street (or sidewalk) goes up quite a lot. Jul 01 22:23
DaemonFC[m]In San Francisco, that happens a lot anyway.Jul 01 22:23
DaemonFC[m]They kept their pay toilets because instead of using them for like 50 cents, the bums will just go shit somewhere.Jul 01 22:23
DaemonFC[m]So you have to be careful where you walk.Jul 01 22:24
DaemonFC[m]Instead of some crackhead blowing up the toilet and shooting up at Jewel-Osco, like in Chicago, they'll happily use the street, and if the police get them on a Disorderly Conduct charge, it means they have a place to sleep and a meal until they get down to the judge to be sentenced to time served. Jul 01 22:25
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I'm making a stuffed cabbage recipe. Yeah, beef prices are going crazy here, but turkey and chicken haven't.Jul 01 22:30
DaemonFC[m]People are definitely buying more poultry and less beef, but the price of the poultry has gone down a bit.Jul 01 22:30
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DaemonFC[m]Speculation: Probably all of those birds that they thought they'd have to slaughter and bury got processed and frozen instead because Trump ordered them all back to work. It's much quicker to process bird than it is cow.Jul 01 22:32
MinceRyeah, jet engines do it in seconds :>Jul 01 22:32
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AVRS 01 22:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | 'We should question it': galleries and museums uneasy about old masters | Art and design | The GuardianJul 01 22:36
DaemonFC[m]<MinceR "yeah, jet engines do it in secon"> flap flapJul 01 22:38
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DaemonFC[m]I bought a pound of mushrooms without realizing what I was getting myself into here. Jul 01 22:41
DaemonFC[m]I think I can get rid of the rest by tomorrow though. I'll just make the rice for this recipe have diced mushrooms in it.Jul 01 22:42
DaemonFC[m]I hate throwing things out, but it happens sometimes.Jul 01 22:42
AVRS"The art world was no exception to this gender bias and, often, women were regarded as models, mistresses and muses rather than candidates for the Academy." …wait, isn't "mistress" the female equivalent of "master"? :-)Jul 01 22:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | mistress - WiktionaryJul 01 22:44
DaemonFC[m]I also hate using a partial jar of pasta sauce.Jul 01 22:44
DaemonFC[m]Mandy gets angry because if something calls for 32 ounces of pasta sauce, I'll pour a 24 ounce jar in there, then put whatever water it calls for in the jar and shake and pour to get the residual sauce in there too easily, then crack open an 8 ounce can of tomato sauce and mix it with a little garlic powder, basil, and italian seasoning.Jul 01 22:46
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DaemonFC[m]MinceR: The far-right keeps laughing at the Coronavirus.Jul 01 22:49
DaemonFC[m]This nuking brought to you by the progress bar from Windows Vista.Jul 01 22:49
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MinceR> "mistress" the female equivalent of "master"Jul 01 22:59
MinceRuh oh, another word that needs to be banned immediately!Jul 01 22:59
XRevan86mistress and slav…iankaJul 01 23:00
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*XRevan86 look at examples of Old French masculine and feminine nounsJul 01 23:05
XRevan86Wait, is "slave" already feminine?Jul 01 23:05
AVRSModern French: "masculin et féminin identiques"Jul 01 23:08
XRevan86> li pereJul 01 23:09
XRevan86Though there was that (father, masculine), so I guess I can't make conclusions just out of endings :)Jul 01 23:10
MinceRlike those well-known female names in hungarian, Béla and AttilaJul 01 23:10
XRevan86> shortening of Old French esclave, equivalent of medieval Latin sclava (feminine)Jul 01 23:11
XRevan86In medieval Latin there were "sclavus" (m.) and "sclava" (f.)Jul 01 23:11
XRevan86If to believe that quote that floats around, then "slave" is indeed historically feminine %).Jul 01 23:12
XRevan86But I wonder: what happened to -us?Jul 01 23:13
XRevan86was it just dropped?Jul 01 23:13
XRevan86Like is "bon" exactly like "bonus" sans -us?Jul 01 23:13
AVRS"slave us" looks bad in English :-)Jul 01 23:14
XRevan86Latin: masculine bonus, feminine bona, neuter bonumJul 01 23:14
XRevan86French: masculine bon. feminine singular bonneJul 01 23:14
XRevan86AVRS: Well… it'd be "slav" :DJul 01 23:15
XRevan86if -e was feminine in Old French and nothing was masculineJul 01 23:15
XRevan86so take "slave", remove -e and whoopsie-daisyJul 01 23:15
XRevan86Which is not surprising of course, considering that these words are cognates.Jul 01 23:20
AVRSschestowitz: 01 23:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | No more going viral: why not apply social distancing to social media? | Leo Mirani | Opinion | The GuardianJul 01 23:20
schestowitzwe boycott this siteJul 01 23:22
schestowitzwhat's the gist?Jul 01 23:22
schestowitzseems like clickbait to meJul 01 23:22
AVRShm it's RMS' favorite siteJul 01 23:22
schestowitzas the title creates more confusion than gives infoJul 01 23:23
schestowitzAVRS: I told RMS about thisJul 01 23:23
schestowitzbut RMS persistsJul 01 23:23
AVRSapparently it's about limiting the amount of readers of an account or somethingJul 01 23:23
schestowitzso they need to fix their headlineJul 01 23:24
schestowitzat leastJul 01 23:24
schestowitz#IBM -Funded #FSF Censors Itself on #SoftwarePatents  why, @fsf , why? Whose call was it? Free as in speech, right? #swpatsJul 01 23:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | IBM-Funded FSF Censors Itself on Software Patents | TechrightsJul 01 23:24
schestowitzjust published thisJul 01 23:24
schestowitzmy guess isJul 01 23:24
AVRS(I am not sure I agree with that idea, myself, if it's what they suggest)Jul 01 23:24
schestowitzeither supporters complainedJul 01 23:24
schestowitzor some fsf stafferJul 01 23:24
schestowitzor sponsorJul 01 23:24
schestowitzso they edited itJul 01 23:24
schestowitzlike they canceled rmsJul 01 23:24
schestowitzso much for freedom of expressionJul 01 23:25
schestowitzfsf disappoints meJul 01 23:25
schestowitzsoftening its languageJul 01 23:25
schestowitzlike a f-ing corporationJul 01 23:25
schestowitznot a fighter for freedomJul 01 23:25
schestowitzAVRS: Gaurdian is evilJul 01 23:25
schestowitzGates-funded libel machineJul 01 23:25
schestowitzworking for the state, for the worst elements of itJul 01 23:25
schestowitzpretending to be leftJul 01 23:25
schestowitzto attract the left to the brainwashJul 01 23:26
schestowitzmaybe this is why RMS became so angry at AssangeJul 01 23:26
schestowitztoo much 'guardian'Jul 01 23:26
schestowitzof the elites who fund this ragJul 01 23:26
schestowitzgates, ford, rockefeller...Jul 01 23:26
AVRSschestowitz: "Software patents are another kind of disease" made me think they are saying they are not disease A but disease B.Jul 01 23:30
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DaemonFC[m]Money talks. Ethics take a hike. Jul 01 23:41
DaemonFC[m]I'm surprised the FSF lasted as long as it did.Jul 01 23:41
DaemonFC[m]Get rid of Stallman so they can collaborate with patent trolls and use GitHub. Christ!Jul 01 23:41
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schestowitzIBM never likes RMS stance on swpatsJul 01 23:45
schestowitzI argued with several IBMers about it ages agoJul 01 23:45
schestowitzlike 12 years agoJul 01 23:45
schestowitzlots of emails exchangedJul 01 23:45
schestowitzbut when IBM was still very smugJul 01 23:46
schestowitzand they defended swpatsJul 01 23:46
schestowitzFSF without RMS is spinelessJul 01 23:46
schestowitz45,400 #covid19 cases added in the US, with several more hours to go. They'll exceed 50k per day soon.Jul 01 23:47
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AVRSRMS on news: "The word "whitening" is becoming taboo. A company said it will stop describing its skin creams with that word. It will still sell them, though."Jul 01 23:52
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AVRSschestowitz: "Somebody doesn’t want “parents”" — that probably was a joke, and openssl's discussion was full of jokes.Jul 01 23:55
AVRSschestowitz: though I guess it doesn't matter if it was a joke, because somebody will demand that seriously anyway.Jul 01 23:56
schestowitzI know it was a jokeJul 01 23:56
schestowitzbut text doesn't express toneJul 01 23:56
schestowitzit relates to what I had said about /homeJul 01 23:57
schestowitzin 01 23:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Offensive Words We Should Uproot and Eliminate From Technology | TechrightsJul 01 23:57
schestowitzMinceR later suggested adding ban on "shell" too because of shellshockJul 01 23:57
schestowitzthe post suggests shell as OKJul 01 23:57
schestowitzlike seashellJul 01 23:57
schestowitzbut it has army connotation alsoJul 01 23:57
schestowitzshell full of explosive matterJul 01 23:57
schestowitz[23:52] <AVRS> RMS on news: "The word "whitening" is becoming taboo. A company said it will stop describing its skin creams with that word. It will still sell them, though."Jul 01 23:58
schestowitzI will paint my wall "not black"Jul 01 23:58
schestowitzthereJul 01 23:58
schestowitzfixed it for youJul 01 23:58
schestowitznot offensive at allJul 01 23:58
schestowitz"NOT black"Jul 01 23:58
schestowitzTrump shoots journalistsJul 01 23:59
schestowitzwith rubber bullets, for now...Jul 01 23:59
MinceRlolJul 01 23:59
schestowitzbut at least the toothpaste will use nicer wordsJul 01 23:59
AriadneNcurses – we should speak of interactive shells; the religious user is likely to associate curses with very bad things, leading to angst.Jul 01 23:59
Ariadneactually curses is a pretty terrible APIJul 01 23:59
schestowitzmaybe they should also make special toothpastes for non-white peopleJul 01 23:59
schestowitzbecause the matter inside might offend themJul 01 23:59

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