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schestowitzA Reader Explains Why the Free Software Foundation's (FSF) Silence on Particular Issues Harms Causes of the FSF Sep 01 08:18
schestowitz http://techrights.org/2019/09/01/fsf-silence/ Sep 01 08:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | A Reader Explains Why the Free Software Foundation’s (FSF) Silence on Particular Issues Harms Causes of the FSF | TechrightsSep 01 08:18
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schestowitz[01:14] <XRevan86> MinceR: victim blaming to a whole new levelSep 01 09:40
schestowitzmissing commaSep 01 09:40
schestowitzput the victim in a comaSep 01 09:40
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XRevan86> <truth value> ::= TRUE | FALSE | UNKNOWNSep 01 11:07
XRevan86Boolean logic in SQL: either true or false, or heck knowsSep 01 11:07
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scientesXRevan86, that's the same as undefined in gcc or llvm (not the C standard)Sep 01 13:18
XRevan86scientes: You mean, here: https://en.cppreference.com/w/c/types/boolean ?Sep 01 13:21
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XRevan86scientes: That's… extremely unlikelySep 01 13:21
scientesXRevan86, no this http://blog.llvm.org/2011/05/what-every-c-programmer-should-know_21.htmlSep 01 13:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.llvm.org | LLVM Project Blog: What Every C Programmer Should Know About Undefined Behavior #3/3Sep 01 13:22
scienteshttp://blog.llvm.org/2011/05/what-every-c-programmer-should-know.htmlSep 01 13:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.llvm.org | LLVM Project Blog: What Every C Programmer Should Know About Undefined Behavior #1/3Sep 01 13:22
scientes> Sep 01 13:22
scientesArithmetic that dynamically executes an undefined operation (such as a signed integer overflow) generates a logical trap value which poisons any computation based on it, but that does not destroy your entire program. This means that logic downstream from the undefined operation may be affected, but that your entire program isn't destroyed. This is why the optimizer ends up deleting code that operates on uninitialized variables, for example.Sep 01 13:22
XRevan86scientes: Okay, how UB relates to BOOLEAN in SQL accepting 3 possible values (excluding NULL)?Sep 01 13:22
scienteswell in Zig we directly expose undefinedSep 01 13:23
scientesits quite stupid in SQL however, because SQL parsing is the slowest part of SQLSep 01 13:23
scientesits stupid in a non-compiled languageSep 01 13:23
XRevan86UNKNOWN is quite a valid possible value.Sep 01 13:24
scientes(that said, undefined in zig is currently kinda broken)Sep 01 13:25
scientesXRevan86, well does it actually save it as unknown?Sep 01 13:25
scientesor is it like undefinedSep 01 13:25
scientesits probably a tri-stateSep 01 13:25
scientesthat they then call a boolSep 01 13:25
scienteswhich admittedly, is kinda funnySep 01 13:25
XRevan86scientes: I think it's supposed to be. I didn't check that since neither PostgreSQL, nor MariaDB support UNKNOWN.Sep 01 13:26
XRevan86scientes: Some DDG'ing revealed that MSSQL supports it, and to get a proper boolean type people suggest using a BIT type.Sep 01 13:28
XRevan86scientes: MSSQL doesn't support EXTRACT, but they support that %).Sep 01 13:28
XRevan86scientes: Yes, that's why I picked on that :)Sep 01 13:33
scienteswhat a bunch of nonsenseSep 01 13:43
XRevan86scientes: https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/074/093/3a5.pngSep 01 14:04
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XRevan86https://i.postimg.cc/Z5YSbhx8/sql-boolean.pngSep 01 14:14
scienteslawlSep 01 14:14
scientesi have to admit i'm not up to date on that us culture which is infantileSep 01 14:15
XRevan86scientes: Don't look at my avatarSep 01 14:16
scientesthat type of stuff alienated meSep 01 14:16
scientes(as well as the people that like that stuff)Sep 01 14:18
XRevan86It's a nice cartoon, what can I tell yaSep 01 14:19
scientesJapaneese culture was already destroyed by such crap...... /half-sarcasmSep 01 14:19
XRevan86What fascinates me about anime is that even the best of its kind still contains at least something dirtySep 01 14:20
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XRevan86scientes: Cartoons will be the end of us allSep 01 14:24
scientesheheSep 01 14:24
scientesDisney stuff is really popular all around the worldSep 01 14:25
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XRevan86scientes: Can't get myself to give their new stuff a chance.Sep 01 14:27
scientesI'm talking about the old stuffSep 01 14:27
scientesI almost went to El Rey Leon, partially to practice my spanish, but it is just too expensiveSep 01 14:27
XRevan86scientes: Princess romantism will be the end of us all :PSep 01 14:27
scientesAs I've gotten better at spanish my host is talking more and more to me in EnglishSep 01 14:28
scientesits really annoyingSep 01 14:28
scientesdoesn't get that people change and improoveSep 01 14:28
XRevan86scientes: Maybe they want to practice English on you instead :PSep 01 14:28
scientesalso the smug reaction when I get a gender wrongSep 01 14:29
scienteshell, English doesn't even have gendersSep 01 14:29
XRevan86scientes: Even if it had, it probably wouldn't've helpedSep 01 14:31
XRevan86every language family has its own systemSep 01 14:31
scienteswell its kinda like the bool thing you were talking aboutSep 01 14:32
scientessome languages have 3 gendersSep 01 14:32
scientesand they aren't really systemsSep 01 14:32
scientesits just a extra bit or 2 bits of information that has no meaningSep 01 14:32
XRevan86scientes: What I mean is patterns of recognising genders.Sep 01 14:32
scientesbut you still are suppose to rememberSep 01 14:32
scientesoh yeah, spanish actually has patterns that indicate the genderSep 01 14:32
XRevan86scientes: For instance, in Slavic languages for 99% of cases you don't need to memorise genders.Sep 01 14:32
scientesbut like german, there is no cluesSep 01 14:32
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XRevan86you just know that "стол" is a "he" and "столешница" is a "she"Sep 01 14:33
MinceRwords ending with soft sign are 1%? :>Sep 01 14:34
XRevan86scientes: Yes, German is tough.Sep 01 14:34
scientesat least it has good orthographySep 01 14:34
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XRevan86MinceR: I had words like "кофе" ("he") in mind.Sep 01 14:34
MinceRah, that tooSep 01 14:34
MinceRgrammatical gender is stupidSep 01 14:35
XRevan86and words like "мальчишка" and "девчонка'Sep 01 14:35
XRevan86the way I see it, the only difference between those words is the actual gender of an individual it's assinged toSep 01 14:36
scienteswhat about transgender kids /troillSep 01 14:36
XRevan86scientes: I still doubt that "boy" can be used for a "she %)"Sep 01 14:37
scientesits a total trollSep 01 14:37
scientesthere is no such thing as genderSep 01 14:37
scientesonly sexSep 01 14:37
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XRevan86scientes: In Russian the word "gender" is simply not used in that sense.Sep 01 14:39
XRevan86grammatical gender – грамматический род (genus); one's sex – полSep 01 14:39
MinceRat least german doesn't care about the genders of the individualsSep 01 14:42
MinceRMädchen is neuter regardlessSep 01 14:42
XRevan86the ultimate objectification of women^W girls %)Sep 01 14:42
MinceR:>Sep 01 14:43
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/19080425Sep 01 14:55
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/19080361Sep 01 15:22
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schestowitzRe: oliva is not rmsSep 01 16:54
schestowitz> ok, oliva may be on the "right side"Sep 01 16:55
schestowitz> Sep 01 16:55
schestowitz> but hes going to play dirty.Sep 01 16:55
schestowitz> Sep 01 16:55
schestowitz> this is a guy who will lie to the public for free software. im just saying it-- hes not honest. hes clearly on "our side" but hes NOT RMS.Sep 01 16:55
schestowitz> Sep 01 16:55
schestowitz> ive always said hes more like rms than any other person alive.Sep 01 16:55
schestowitz> Sep 01 16:55
schestowitz> im changing that, right now. rms is honest. i am 90% sure oliva is not. i dont trust him anymore, as of today. will he sell out? no. will he tell us the truth? i dont think so. i feel like im being lied to. i feel like everybody is being lied to. its dirty.Sep 01 16:55
schestowitz> followupSep 01 16:57
schestowitz> Sep 01 16:57
schestowitz> Sep 01 16:57
schestowitz> Sep 01 16:57
schestowitz> devuan is taking exactly the freedom approach: not happy with the waySep 01 16:57
schestowitz> some project you use is taking? not able to convince its community toSep 01 16:57
schestowitz> take the direction you’d prefer? well, then, time to fork or make yourSep 01 16:57
schestowitz> own from scratch. that’s the active approach I defend.Sep 01 16:58
schestowitz> Sep 01 16:58
schestowitz> the alternative would be for those who share devuan’s take to somehowSep 01 16:58
schestowitz> impose their wish over those who are developing and getting adoption forSep 01 16:58
schestowitz> something that devuan doesn’t approve of. that imposition would hardlySep 01 16:58
schestowitz> be respectful of their freedom.Sep 01 16:58
schestowitz> Sep 01 16:58
schestowitz> yeah, it’s unfortunate that the wishes aren’t lined up, that there’s noSep 01 16:58
schestowitz> agreement, but freedom means everyone’s allowed to pursue and act inSep 01 16:58
schestowitz> their own best interest, even when that makes it harder for others toSep 01 16:58
schestowitz> get their own wishes.Sep 01 16:58
schestowitz> Sep 01 16:58
schestowitz> now, you’re right that the pursuit of one’s wishes may resemble lock inSep 01 16:58
schestowitz> to those whose wishes are being made harder. to me, the key differenceSep 01 16:58
schestowitz> is between being able to impose one’s wish, not leaving any choice toSep 01 16:58
schestowitz> the other party, and merely prevailing as to the default, leaving theSep 01 16:58
schestowitz> other party (through software freedom, including freedoms to modify,Sep 01 16:58
schestowitz> fund modification and ultimately to fork) the possibility to get thingsSep 01 16:58
schestowitz> their way for themselves and for those who share their wishSep 01 16:58
schestowitz> despite its polite tone, oliva totally just pulled a shuttleworth.Sep 01 16:58
schestowitz> Sep 01 16:58
schestowitz> me: its lockin if its designed to make it harder to get out ofSep 01 16:58
schestowitz> Sep 01 16:58
schestowitz> him: not if its free software, because then you can take an active stanceSep 01 16:58
schestowitz> Sep 01 16:58
schestowitz> me: i guess devuan isnt taking an active stances, its taken 5 years toSep 01 16:58
schestowitz> stop the onslaught of lock-inSep 01 16:58
schestowitz> Sep 01 16:58
schestowitz> him: the alternative would be to impose their wishes on everyone else,Sep 01 16:58
schestowitz> if [freedom isnt easy] i can understand how it would look like lock-inSep 01 16:59
schestowitz> to those whose wishes arent metSep 01 16:59
schestowitz> Sep 01 16:59
schestowitz> Sep 01 16:59
schestowitz> fucking hell hes crafty.Sep 01 16:59
schestowitz> Sep 01 16:59
schestowitz> lock-in is what theyre trying to avoid.Sep 01 16:59
schestowitz> Sep 01 16:59
schestowitz> he just chess-moved lock-in from something that can happen to freeSep 01 16:59
schestowitz> software, to something that is actually just devuan being unhappy.Sep 01 16:59
schestowitz> Sep 01 16:59
schestowitz> *during the shuffle, we lost the fact that its lock-in* itself thatSep 01 16:59
schestowitz> theyre trying to remove--Sep 01 16:59
schestowitz> Sep 01 16:59
schestowitz> did you catch it? the man is brilliant.Sep 01 16:59
schestowitz> Sep 01 16:59
schestowitz> it might take a few more times. but you know what?Sep 01 16:59
schestowitz> Sep 01 16:59
schestowitz> this changes things.Sep 01 16:59
schestowitz> The guest post in TR on the FSF was spot-on.Sep 01 17:04
schestowitzThank you, there's more coming.Sep 01 17:04
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MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/IvPx6Lj.jpgSep 01 19:45
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MinceRhttps://imgur.com/gallery/tRkgKbRSep 01 20:03
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MinceRhttps://imgur.com/gallery/tupSdR4Sep 01 20:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mesmerizing imagery from space of Hurricane Dorian - Album on ImgurSep 01 20:42
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schestowitzMinceR: book hooSep 01 21:16
schestowitzmaybe lots of people will fire rifles at the storm like they did with IrmaSep 01 21:16
schestowitzand police had to issue mass warnings against thatSep 01 21:16
schestowitz"go way... you BAD BAD storm!!"Sep 01 21:16
MinceR:>Sep 01 21:17
schestowitzbetter chances than thoughts and prayersSep 01 21:17
schestowitzthe bullets have some minuscule effect at leastSep 01 21:18
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127627 [https://pleroma.site/objects/c5c48d61-c8a9-42ba-b5c1-8ea0ed6107ae]Sep 01 21:18
*XRevan86 shoots a thought beam at the stormSep 01 21:18
schestowitzcause of death: thought ad prayer (instead of using shelter)Sep 01 21:18
XRevan86and also prayer lasersSep 01 21:19
schestowitzprayer lasters are fakeSep 01 21:19
schestowitzunlike prayerSep 01 21:20
XRevan86schestowitz: How can you tell prayer lasers are fake? Have you seen one?Sep 01 21:20
schestowitzHave YOU?Sep 01 21:21
MinceRyeah, they get blown around and hit someone :>Sep 01 21:22
schestowitzhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PITCmngiMfASep 01 21:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Jackson 5 I saw Mommy kissing Santa Claus (with lyrics) - YouTubeSep 01 21:22
XRevan86schestowitz: When get smacked on the headSep 01 21:22
schestowitzHow do you know Michael Jackson is real?Sep 01 21:23
schestowitzHave you seen one??\Sep 01 21:23
XRevan86schestowitz: Just don't tell my unicorn. She doesn't believe me.Sep 01 21:23
schestowitzunicorn? Is that when you call your mermaid?Sep 01 21:24
schestowitz*whatSep 01 21:24
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XRevan86schestowitz: If she wants to identify as a unicorn, let it be, I respect her freedom.Sep 01 21:25
XRevan86A very fishy unicornSep 01 21:25
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DaemonFC[m]I called the finance company today.Sep 01 21:27
MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/LQd5Aq8.jpgSep 01 21:27
XRevan86back to the real worldSep 01 21:27
DaemonFC[m]I told them I wanted to surrender my car and asked how to do that voluntarily.Sep 01 21:27
DaemonFC[m]They said that deparrtment wasn't in until Tuesday. Sep 01 21:27
DaemonFC[m]I said, "Really? You've been blowing up my phone all week and now there's nobody to talk to?".Sep 01 21:27
DaemonFC[m]"I have no plans to make anymore payments and I'd rather make this go smoother for you because I do not intend to hide the vehicle. You can sue my co-signer. I'm on Social Security so it would be pointless to come after me. He got me in trouble with the state and it's illegal for me to even talk to him right now, so happy hunting.".Sep 01 21:29
XRevan86Somehow the real world is even more insane.Sep 01 21:29
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MinceRhttps://imgur.com/gallery/ZSh5yzVSep 01 21:58
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scientesDaemonFC[m], that is the only economic activity in the US anymore: debt collectorsSep 01 22:38
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MinceR(audio:unimportant) https://i.imgur.com/EdUIsqg.mp4   ( https://imgur.com/gallery/Y79PTgT )Sep 01 22:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bengal Twins - Album on ImgurSep 01 22:40
DaemonFC[m]I just got booted from the hotel's wifi and needed a new password to their walled garden sign-on page. I looked at the terms of use and they went on and on. It included, but was not limited to, "you agree not to share anything that you do not have a right to make available under any law" and "you agree not to transfer anything that is protected by copyright, patent, trade secret...". By using the word "transfer", theySep 01 22:42
DaemonFC[m]have technically made it a violation of the terms of service to use the hotel wifi at all. And since the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act applies to terms of service, you are committing a felony offense by using the hotel wifi. Good reason to use my VPN, I guess.Sep 01 22:42
DaemonFC[m]It also says you agree not to use it "in any way that harms a child". Whatever that means, I guess.Sep 01 22:42
DaemonFC[m]You further agree that you will not use it to "harass, annoy, threaten, defame, or impersonate anyone".Sep 01 22:43
MinceRwell, using it consumes electricity, the production of which pollutes the atmosphere, therefore harms childrenSep 01 22:44
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: Most of the electricity in Illinois is from nuclear.Sep 01 22:50
DaemonFC[m]But that causes radioactive waste, I guess.Sep 01 22:50
DaemonFC[m]Not atmospheric pollution, under normal circumstances.Sep 01 22:50
DaemonFC[m]It might be better for me to just wait a while before returning the Kia if they don't want it back that badly.Sep 01 22:52
DaemonFC[m]The more payments I miss, the more it hurts John.Sep 01 22:52
MinceRfissile material will still need to be mined and transported to the reactorSep 01 22:52
MinceRwhich is done with internal combustion engined vehiclesSep 01 22:53
DaemonFC[m]Natural Uranium's half-life is incredibly long. I was just reading about that on Wikipedia.Sep 01 22:56
DaemonFC[m]4.4 billion years.Sep 01 22:56
scientesDaemonFC[m], U-238 that isSep 01 23:28
scientesU-235 is a little shorter IIRCSep 01 23:28
scienteshowever U-235 is basically the only naturally occuring radioactive AND fissible element that is naturally occuringSep 01 23:28
scientes s/element/isotope/Sep 01 23:29

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