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| DaemonFC[m] | Mom said someone from Indiana posted on Facebook that masks deprive you of oxygen, and even my mom wasn't going for that, it was so bad. People who would say that or that masks are social control had the umbilical cord strangling them of oxygen or a parent that drank while pregnant, most likely. | Sep 01 00:00 |
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| schestowitz | ha | Sep 01 00:01 |
| schestowitz | well, darwin awards on display | Sep 01 00:01 |
| schestowitz | you know who will end up in ER | Sep 01 00:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | People from Indiana are weird. Most of them act like the world falls off at the state lines and there's dragons out there. So there's a few cities that are somewhat livable and that's about it. In fact, it scores among the lowest states for the mental health situation going on in there. | Sep 01 00:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The people who aren't leaving Indiana are old and don't need a job anyway. Good thing too, because the state has been in recession since 2014. | Sep 01 00:03 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | That's why Trump will do just fine there even as he loses the election in a blowout. Because Indiana is about 14 points out of whack with the rest of the country. Severe deficits in education, overall intelligence, social intelligence, and which decade their world view is from. | Sep 01 00:05 |
| schestowitz | "People with education mock us!" | Sep 01 00:06 |
| schestowitz | "Let's vote for the crook who paid a dude to seat his SATs... very stable genius" | Sep 01 00:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The people there who reproduce are mostly from some criminal clan, like something out of a Kentucky joke. I mentioned my mom's ex-husband Brian, who drove a truck and had 4 kids, 18 grandkids, and 4 great grandkids at 59 when he died. They're all criminals from birth and every single one is a Republican if they vote for anyone. (Or can vote with a string of felonies.) | Sep 01 00:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Nobody in their right mind would vote for 4 more years of this, but Indiana will be flabbergasted by the election results because they've completely lost touch and can't admit that it's not the 1960s anymore. | Sep 01 00:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <schestowitz ""People with education mock us!""> My dad was so stunned that Biden gave a good speech that he now thinks someone has killed Joe Biden and replaced him with an impostor. | Sep 01 00:10 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | You know, at this point, I hope people will listen to a message of hope. Not a bunch of bigotry and fear about how if we only give up the rest of our freedoms, Trump can save us with martial law. | Sep 01 00:11 |
| schestowitz | A friend of mine says, | Sep 01 00:11 |
| schestowitz | the deterioration started around the 70s or 80s | Sep 01 00:11 |
| schestowitz | namely raegan | Sep 01 00:12 |
| schestowitz | if not nixon | Sep 01 00:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I don't like the structure of the National Guard and once Trump is gone, Congress should make it harder for the president to federalize them to use against a state. | Sep 01 00:12 |
| schestowitz | the attack on public education | Sep 01 00:12 |
| schestowitz | several consecutive generations getting dumped by design | Sep 01 00:12 |
| schestowitz | US becoming a massive debt country | Sep 01 00:12 |
| schestowitz | no assets, just wars | Sep 01 00:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, and like a mindless robot, my dad couldn't answer what we were doing in Syria and refuses to admit that Trump is backing ISIS. | Sep 01 00:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Obama was too. | Sep 01 00:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | In the very worst ways, Trump is "normal", in that he has no intention of ever getting us out of places like that. | Sep 01 00:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I smell bullshit with Trump saying he won't sign Nancy Pelosi's next bill. | Sep 01 00:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | She'll wait him out and keep saying "The House passed one weeks ago and the Republicans aren't touching it.". | Sep 01 00:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then he'll realize the economy is completely falling apart and there's no way to move money around by executive order anymore, and he'll sign it. | Sep 01 00:15 |
| CrystalMath | DaemonFC[m]: didn't trump pull a lot of soldiers out? | Sep 01 00:16 |
| CrystalMath | i mean that's my whole defense case for Trump | Sep 01 00:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Not really, no. | Sep 01 00:17 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: Its also recent years more and more patent trolls have been hitting Microsoft worked out that they could perform bankruptcy to remove the contract restriction on aquired patents. | Sep 01 00:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Bush and Obama agreed to pull outs that took place and some of them happened after they were gone. | Sep 01 00:17 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: Sometimes a plan backfires. | Sep 01 00:18 |
| schestowitz | [00:17] <CrystalMath> i mean that's my whole defense case for Trump | Sep 01 00:18 |
| schestowitz | They were relocated | Sep 01 00:18 |
| schestowitz | redistributed | Sep 01 00:19 |
| schestowitz | e.g. for war with iran | Sep 01 00:19 |
| schestowitz | or some other confrontation | Sep 01 00:19 |
| schestowitz | while Trump and GOP sent Pentagon budget SOARING | Sep 01 00:19 |
| CrystalMath | but they were still pulled out, weren't they? | Sep 01 00:19 |
| schestowitz | and increased Pentagon's nuclear programs, as did Obama | Sep 01 00:19 |
| schestowitz | CrystalMath: relocated | Sep 01 00:19 |
| schestowitz | also expanded in Adfrica | Sep 01 00:19 |
| schestowitz | *Africa | Sep 01 00:19 |
| CrystalMath | i think Trump may be the most peaceful president ever | Sep 01 00:19 |
| CrystalMath | where in africa? | Sep 01 00:20 |
| schestowitz | many Trump supporters were sold this false idea that Trump, who boosts military spendings and presence, does the opposite | Sep 01 00:20 |
| schestowitz | he also bombs far more than prior president | Sep 01 00:20 |
| schestowitz | *presidents | Sep 01 00:20 |
| schestowitz | all of them | Sep 01 00:20 |
| CrystalMath | like where? | Sep 01 00:20 |
| schestowitz | in Africa? Look it up. | Sep 01 00:20 |
| schestowitz | It happened around 2018-19 | Sep 01 00:21 |
| CrystalMath | can you be a little more specific? | Sep 01 00:21 |
| schestowitz | [00:19] <CrystalMath> i think Trump may be the most peaceful president ever | Sep 01 00:21 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Sep 01 00:21 |
| schestowitz | domestically and abroad | Sep 01 00:21 |
| schestowitz | Ask an Iranian or Venezuelan or Cuban if this is true | Sep 01 00:21 |
| CrystalMath | okay so look | Sep 01 00:21 |
| schestowitz | he also bombed a lot more than Obama | Sep 01 00:21 |
| schestowitz | peaceful tight there! | Sep 01 00:21 |
| CrystalMath | 2016, america dropped 26,171 bombs | Sep 01 00:21 |
| schestowitz | LOL Trump peaceful | Sep 01 00:21 |
| schestowitz | "law and order" | Sep 01 00:22 |
| schestowitz | thew most criminal president ever | Sep 01 00:22 |
| CrystalMath | in 2018, 8,750 | Sep 01 00:22 |
| CrystalMath | that looks like a dramatic drop to me | Sep 01 00:22 |
| schestowitz | whose crimes are too long to even be listed | Sep 01 00:22 |
| schestowitz | and who was impeached | Sep 01 00:22 |
| CrystalMath | impeached by a far from impartial congress | Sep 01 00:22 |
| CrystalMath | i watched that crap happen, it was nonsense | Sep 01 00:22 |
| schestowitz | https://www.truthdig.com/articles/trumps-military-drops-a-bomb-every-12-minutes-and-no-one-is-talking-about-it/ | Sep 01 00:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Trump’s Military Drops a Bomb Every 12 Minutes, and No One Is Talking About It - Truthdig | Sep 01 00:22 | |
| schestowitz | CrystalMath: : I'm signing off | Sep 01 00:23 |
| schestowitz | because this discussion is total nonsense YBH | Sep 01 00:23 |
| schestowitz | TBH | Sep 01 00:23 |
| CrystalMath | hold on, let's see how much per year | Sep 01 00:23 |
| CrystalMath | hmm | Sep 01 00:24 |
| CrystalMath | okay i misread something from duckduckgo's preview | Sep 01 00:24 |
| CrystalMath | oops | Sep 01 00:24 |
| CrystalMath | but that article is a little misleading | Sep 01 00:25 |
| CrystalMath | 2016 is not the year Trump took office | Sep 01 00:25 |
| CrystalMath | it was January 20th 2017 | Sep 01 00:25 |
| CrystalMath | i remember the day | Sep 01 00:25 |
| schestowitz | excuses | Sep 01 00:26 |
| CrystalMath | 2016 is all on obama's conscience | Sep 01 00:26 |
| schestowitz | I criticise Linux a lot | Sep 01 00:26 |
| schestowitz | many aspects | Sep 01 00:26 |
| schestowitz | anything else is cult-like | Sep 01 00:26 |
| schestowitz | you adopted cult-like lies | Sep 01 00:26 |
| CrystalMath | sure, Trump sucks in many ways | Sep 01 00:26 |
| schestowitz | like qanon and "Trust the plan" | Sep 01 00:27 |
| schestowitz | research the facts | Sep 01 00:27 |
| CrystalMath | since you mentioned linux | Sep 01 00:27 |
| schestowitz | not what some cultists tell you | Sep 01 00:27 |
| schestowitz | like microsoft talking about azure and stuff | Sep 01 00:27 |
| schestowitz | (lots of lies) | Sep 01 00:27 |
| CrystalMath | Trump is behind that outrageous Oracle v. Google ruling | Sep 01 00:27 |
| schestowitz | (losses AND layoffs) | Sep 01 00:27 |
| CrystalMath | Trump is far from great | Sep 01 00:27 |
| CrystalMath | but i think that since he came to power america has been leaving the rest of the world alone more | Sep 01 00:27 |
| CrystalMath | well, there was that outageous strike on Soleimani | Sep 01 00:28 |
| CrystalMath | that made me completely give up on Trump temporarily | Sep 01 00:29 |
| CrystalMath | but what's the alternative? bowing before SJWs? | Sep 01 00:29 |
| CrystalMath | the people ruining this planet with their technocratic globalism | Sep 01 00:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Lightfoot also tried to thread the political needle on police funding. Chicago needs to greatly reduce police overtime spending, and find a way to lower the massive annual outlay the city makes to settle lawsuits against officers for misconduct, she said in her speech." | Sep 01 00:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Make them go to court. Stop settling and lawyers will stop suing the city as much. | Sep 01 00:34 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Those bankruptcy spammers are ignoring my postal prohibitory order. | Sep 01 00:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Might send them to the USPIS. I'm sure they could use a $5,500 fine doled out to each one of themhem. | Sep 01 00:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | *them | Sep 01 00:41 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Just do what Cartman said when he was teaching black and brown people to get ahead. | Sep 01 00:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Just do what white people do and when you get caught cheating say, "I misinterpreted the rules!". | Sep 01 00:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If you get pregnant in high school and want to go to college, cheat nature itself and get an abortion. | Sep 01 00:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "If you're good enough, you can cheat right in front of them and they won't even care.". | Sep 01 00:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | (Using the example of Bill Belichick, a coach who won a bunch of football games by studying the other teams at practice, and then saying "I misinterpreted the rules.".' | Sep 01 00:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It would be better if the mass media portrayed pregnancy as an awful and undesirable thing that will be the path to bankruptcy and sleepless nights. | Sep 01 00:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then if the kid ever does grow up, how did your life go? Enjoying it? | Sep 01 00:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Everyone has regrets at the end, and some more than others, but if anyone says they don't they're lying to you or themselves. | Sep 01 00:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Old people get religious because party time's over and they're in a nursing home wasting away because their adult kids don't want to see them anymore. | Sep 01 00:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The same party that said abortion is wrong because it's murder didn't do a damned thing about the Coronavirus, and if you ask them what they think about having let it in the country to prey on nursing home residents, their real answer is "So what? The dude was 90. How long did he really have anyway? Open up! I wanna go to the bar!". | Sep 01 00:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I meeesinterpreted the rules! | Sep 01 00:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I MinceR-interpreted the rules! Like that time he told me to obey the lease by giving mom the cat for a day and getting a tiger, which was "one cat", and then having the tiger eat the landlord. | Sep 01 00:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: I found a bunch of used door knobs when mom's work was being renovated. I had her mail me a box of them. | Sep 01 00:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This was in Chicago when that nasty lady kept letting herself in. My lease said that tenant may change the door locks, but must provide the landlord with a key if requested. | Sep 01 00:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It did not specify how many times I could change the lock, only that I had to give her a key each time she asked. | Sep 01 00:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | After like 5 times, she got mad, and I said, "Perhaps after we leave, you should change that clause of the lease.". | Sep 01 00:59 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: She was such a dolt that I probably could have pulled a Russian Credit Card guy and gotten her to sign something that looked like the lease she had dropped off. | Sep 01 01:00 |
| schestowitz | lol | Sep 01 01:00 |
| MinceR | lol @ tiger | Sep 01 01:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Technically I could probably have sued Barry Whatshisnuts. | Sep 01 01:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He voided my lease in Fox Lake and said it was because I committed a Class A Misdemeanor. It says, "Landlord may void lease if a felony or Class A Misdemeanor is committed on the premises.", but he didn't wait for an outcome. He voided the lease while I was on bail. | Sep 01 01:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | What I actually got punished for was a Class C Misdemeanor. | Sep 01 01:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But if I sued him, they'd reopen the bankruptcy, ask why I didn't mention that I thought I could sue him, and then take any damages to give to my creditors. | Sep 01 01:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm not a lawyer, so this is rather like idle speculation. It depends on what the meaning of "is" is. | Sep 01 01:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It really wasn't much of a punishment. One of the things that it called for were court costs, which are user fees. | Sep 01 01:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I was like, "Okay, you want to fantasize that this isn't extortion, I'll fantasize too.". | Sep 01 01:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Your services are subject to the bankruptcy." | Sep 01 01:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: I actually took my lawyer back into the counsel room. | Sep 01 01:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I said, "You think you can get me out of supervised probation and community service?". | Sep 01 01:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He's like, "Well, they'll want something else.". | Sep 01 01:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I said, "Offer them as much of a fine as they want.". | Sep 01 01:29 |
| schestowitz | community service | Sep 01 01:30 |
| schestowitz | misnomer at times | Sep 01 01:30 |
| schestowitz | if you assess who benefits | Sep 01 01:30 |
| schestowitz | with >Some< of these programs | Sep 01 01:30 |
| schestowitz | maybe at one point "community service" will be "working at amazon fulfillment [sic] center" | Sep 01 01:30 |
| schestowitz | to fulfil Jeff's dreams | Sep 01 01:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Yeah, they take the probationers out under the August sun and make them pick up trash and condoms at the Walmart parking lot while Mandy laughs at them. | Sep 01 01:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Meanwhile, I'm sitting here with my little umbrella drink. | Sep 01 01:31 |
| schestowitz | walmart should clean its own f-ing place | Sep 01 01:31 |
| schestowitz | not use free labour | Sep 01 01:32 |
| schestowitz | commissioned by the state | Sep 01 01:32 |
| schestowitz | make them grow crops | Sep 01 01:32 |
| schestowitz | and feed the poor | Sep 01 01:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They don't. They make people who got caught stealing from Walmart go out and pick up their lot as part of their punishment. | Sep 01 01:32 |
| schestowitz | not clear "corporate property" | Sep 01 01:32 |
| schestowitz | *clean | Sep 01 01:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They make a cop go out there and watch them do it and log their hours. | Sep 01 01:33 |
| schestowitz | so the taxpayers pays | Sep 01 01:33 |
| schestowitz | for these cops | Sep 01 01:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yep. | Sep 01 01:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeppers. | Sep 01 01:33 |
| schestowitz | not a bad deal for the waltons | Sep 01 01:33 |
| schestowitz | catch people | Sep 01 01:33 |
| schestowitz | turn them into walmart's slave labour | Sep 01 01:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | No, it's not. Free trash pickup at every Walmart in Illinois. | Sep 01 01:33 |
| schestowitz | partly subsidised by taxpayers, too | Sep 01 01:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Courtesy of the tax payers. | Sep 01 01:33 |
| schestowitz | walmart >is< trash | Sep 01 01:34 |
| schestowitz | I avoid all their stores here | Sep 01 01:34 |
| schestowitz | known as "asda" and "sainsburys" | Sep 01 01:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Oh, you know as well as I do that the best way to get yourself out of trouble is guile. | Sep 01 01:34 |
| schestowitz | they barely even provide customer service anymore | Sep 01 01:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Playing the "straight man" hardly ever works out well. | Sep 01 01:34 |
| schestowitz | at some stage they want people to use machines, train themselves, use "contactless" to give their ID away | Sep 01 01:35 |
| schestowitz | you might end up giving your ID to buy f-ing chewing gun | Sep 01 01:35 |
| schestowitz | *gum | Sep 01 01:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, I do. 10% discount on the gum. :P | Sep 01 01:35 |
| schestowitz | they punish people for privacy | Sep 01 01:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Mandy's discount is added to his W2 as taxable wages. | Sep 01 01:35 |
| schestowitz | they penalise them financially | Sep 01 01:35 |
| schestowitz | this is wrong | Sep 01 01:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So I only ever shop at Walmart. | Sep 01 01:35 |
| schestowitz | if you pay less for not using cash, I'd avoid your business | Sep 01 01:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Whether he passes the wealth test depends on how much taxable income he made the year before we get called in for the interview, but I could also project it on an annual basis and use paystubs as evidence. | Sep 01 01:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But you can show what your last tax filings were. Can't hurt. | Sep 01 01:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I pay 15% less on anything in Walmart. | Sep 01 01:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You can't even shop at Aldi for that. | Sep 01 01:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Study the rules. Use their own rules against them. Best way out of most situations. | Sep 01 01:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Have a bankruptcy court rip up the financial damage of the state court. | Sep 01 01:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: My mom didn't know how to file bankruptcy against the IRS. Her lawyer said you couldn't. I said find another lawyer. Turns out 4 years of back taxes went away. | Sep 01 01:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I told her "Sit on that parking ticket from the city. Add them as a creditor.". | Sep 01 01:40 |
| MinceR | you pay taxes for your back? | Sep 01 01:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | She filed the tax returns and then couldn't pay the taxes. | Sep 01 01:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's important to file for those years even if you can't pay. | Sep 01 01:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If you wait and file multiple years at once, they aren't subject to the rule that bankruptcy wipes out taxes that are more than 3 years overdue. | Sep 01 01:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: I went over everything before she went to another lawyer that I recommended. | Sep 01 01:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I had her file bankruptcy against her divorce lawyer. | Sep 01 01:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Three hospital visits. | Sep 01 01:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Her ex husband's mortgage that his widow was living in, that she couldn't evict. | Sep 01 01:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Several credit cards. | Sep 01 01:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: I thought it was hilarious because Culley's family thought she was going to have to pay the mortgage or get garnished for it. | Sep 01 01:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | After the bankruptcy, the bank had the Sheriff come out and evict the Culleys. | Sep 01 01:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | She gives me problems to work on, so she framed it as "You know how you hated Brian? How would you like to get the bank to throw them out of the house?". | Sep 01 01:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So I sat down and figured out how many weeks she'd have to be off work to bring her pay down to Chapter 7 bankruptcy limits in Indiana. | Sep 01 01:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | She took a 3 week unpaid leave from work and then filed bankruptcy on all of them. | Sep 01 01:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's an IRS fresh start program. Lots of late night TV scammers claiming they know how to get you out of trouble with the IRS. | Sep 01 01:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's just them filling out forms that you could fill out yourself that are probably going to be denied. | Sep 01 01:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Oh, but you will pay them thousands before you find that out. | Sep 01 01:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: The Illinois Northern District bankruptcy court had to bring in an "emergency judge". | Sep 01 01:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The bankruptcies that are being filed have more documents than average attached to them. | Sep 01 01:51 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: The 10th Circuit Court of Appeals just struck down the bankruptcy law that protects student loans from being discharged. | Sep 01 01:59 |
| schestowitz | student loans... what a dumb concept | Sep 01 02:08 |
| schestowitz | better yet, offer young people higher education | Sep 01 02:08 |
| schestowitz | and don't them 20 years of debt slavery | Sep 01 02:08 |
| schestowitz | works well, I suppose, when the goal is to maintain and extend inequality | Sep 01 02:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Part of the point of bankruptcy is a way out when people took on debts to do something and it didn't work out or things went so bad that nothing else will ever work. | Sep 01 02:37 |
| schestowitz | some people chasing debt payments | Sep 01 02:37 |
| schestowitz | while the rest leap ahead | Sep 01 02:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's a way of not being cruel to someone. | Sep 01 02:38 |
| schestowitz | and get like $200,000,000,000 in >personal< wealth | Sep 01 02:38 |
| schestowitz | social security will be cut next | Sep 01 02:38 |
| schestowitz | with many bankruptcy that law too can change | Sep 01 02:39 |
| schestowitz | maybe no personal bankruptcies | Sep 01 02:39 |
| schestowitz | only business ones | Sep 01 02:39 |
| schestowitz | like in .PH | Sep 01 02:39 |
| schestowitz | ask Mandy | Sep 01 02:39 |
| schestowitz | but... | Sep 01 02:39 |
| schestowitz | debt prisons might not be back... yet | Sep 01 02:39 |
| schestowitz | until they figure out how to make those prisons a business too | Sep 01 02:39 |
| schestowitz | like GEO Global or whatever they're called | Sep 01 02:39 |
| schestowitz | Maybe Serco | Sep 01 02:39 |
| schestowitz | and then sometimes can profit from incarceration of the "too poor" to be included in society | Sep 01 02:40 |
| kingoffrance | there were private PPP facilities where they got rewarded for reaching capacity. i guess the theory is this means taking load off of the state | Sep 01 02:41 |
| kingoffrance | like, in theory, that means they are doing job | Sep 01 02:42 |
| kingoffrance | in practice it means they are being rewarded the more ppl they can send there | Sep 01 02:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Mandy says that if you owe debts you can't pay in the Philippines you skip town and hide. | Sep 01 02:43 |
| kingoffrance | *doing a good job | Sep 01 02:43 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Owner-of-Trump-hotel-in-Vancouver-files-for-15523277.php | Sep 01 02:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Owner of Trump hotel in Vancouver files for bankruptcy - SFGate | Sep 01 02:50 | |
| schestowitz | good | Sep 01 02:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Maybe the one in Chicago or New York will go under next. | Sep 01 03:07 |
| schestowitz | good riddance | Sep 01 03:08 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | The building itself will still be there. | Sep 01 03:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | We can finally get his name off of it. | Sep 01 03:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | JC Penney is at risk of being converted to a Chapter 7. | Sep 01 03:50 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: wanna read with me? | Sep 01 04:11 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: both are about the kernel | Sep 01 04:33 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah | Sep 01 05:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "For a number of years we’ve ‘lobbied’ Rust to “delete GitHub,” but the project never listened. Instead the project seems to have warned up further… to Microsoft." | Sep 01 05:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | warned up? | Sep 01 05:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: | Sep 01 05:35 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: ah... warmed up | Sep 01 06:14 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: thanks, only just noticed IRC | Sep 01 06:14 |
| schestowitz | waited for you like an hour.. LOL | Sep 01 06:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah. Was busy with dinner. | Sep 01 06:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Bored and reading about serial killers. | Sep 01 06:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's strange how all of the really weird and famous ones seem to be from the 19th and 20th centuries. | Sep 01 06:46 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duck_Walk_Killer | Sep 01 06:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Duck Walk Killer - Wikipedia | Sep 01 06:55 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | This guy was killing people in the neighborhood I lived in. | Sep 01 06:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The cops came out and got me for running a stop sign. | Sep 01 06:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://heyjackass.com/enlightening-commentary/ | Sep 01 07:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Commentaries Archive | HeyJackass! HeyJackass! | Sep 01 07:07 | |
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| schestowitz | [06:43] <DaemonFC[m]> Yeah. Was busy with dinner. | Sep 01 08:52 |
| schestowitz | who does the cooking and is it special cuisine? | Sep 01 08:52 |
| schestowitz | or just pasta and beans, chicken, etc.? | Sep 01 08:52 |
| schestowitz | anyway, here's a question | Sep 01 08:52 |
| schestowitz | does anyone want to help me dig interesting mails in http://techrights.org/transparency/debian/debian-private/threads.html#00018 ? | Sep 01 08:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | NO TITLE | Sep 01 08:53 | |
| schestowitz | I've gone through about 1000 emails | Sep 01 08:53 |
| schestowitz | there are over 8000 in total, but the threading helps see the more relevant ones | Sep 01 08:53 |
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| kingoffrance | i saw a great adult swim blurb: corporations + covid: were here for you corporations + blm: were here for you corporations + service outage: your wait time is 4 hours, please hold ... | Sep 01 09:37 |
| MinceR | :> | Sep 01 10:02 |
| schestowitz | adult swin? | Sep 01 10:08 |
| schestowitz | *swim | Sep 01 10:08 |
| kingoffrance | cartoon network | Sep 01 10:11 |
| kingoffrance | sorry | Sep 01 10:11 |
| MinceR | ““I AM CONTRACTUALLY BOUND TO MURDER YOU” is a hell of a battlecry” | Sep 01 10:14 |
| kingoffrance | non-tech ppl get ticked at tech support just as much as tech ppl i guess is the moral | Sep 01 10:20 |
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| schestowitz | Ariadne: will viera be revitalised this week? In the meantime i made copies of things manually. | Sep 01 14:43 |
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| schestowitz | Ariadne: "Holy crap, google is apparently taking down all/most fediverse apps from google play on the grounds that that some servers in the fediverse engage in hate speech" https://qoto.org/@freemo/104765288863293481 | Sep 01 19:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-qoto.org | 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱: "Holy crap, google is apparently taking down all/m…" - Qoto Mastodon | Sep 01 19:17 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | <schestowitz "or just pasta and beans, chicken"> Macaroni and government cheese. | Sep 01 19:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Literally I was tossing government cheese in there from the food bank. They just take all kinds of surplus cheese and smash it together into blocks. | Sep 01 19:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The situation in the US is just terrible. | Sep 01 19:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I told my dad if he votes for Trump again, he'd be "Dumber than Culley." (Gonad) "And by dumber than Culley, I mean dumber than his rotting corpse. I hope that clears the air.". | Sep 01 19:17 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz, Ariadne: Um, we discussed that already. | Sep 01 19:17 |
| schestowitz | 6 Million Stricken With COVID-19: Trump Has Turned the US Into a Sh*thole Country https://www.commondreams.org/views/2020/08/31/6-million-stricken-covid-19-trump-has-turned-us-shthole-country | Sep 01 19:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | 6 Million Stricken With COVID-19: Trump Has Turned the US Into a Sh*thole Country | Common Dreams Views | Sep 01 19:18 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: isn't Sh*thole what we call Don's mouth? | Sep 01 19:18 |
| schestowitz | technically it's a hole | Sep 01 19:19 |
| schestowitz | and shit constantly comes out of it | Sep 01 19:19 |
| MinceR | lol | Sep 01 19:26 |
| MinceR | so, google play is finally turning into a walled garden | Sep 01 19:26 |
| XRevan86 | > Gab doesn't federate (i.e. they broke server-to-server communication) | Sep 01 19:28 |
| XRevan86 | Aw, shucks | Sep 01 19:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'll probably park my excess money in the "Growth" account. | Sep 01 19:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Interest rates are bad these days, but some is better than none. | Sep 01 19:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Getting into stocks is dangerous, to say the least. | Sep 01 19:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Wall Street is booming based on fake valuations and news of layoffs, which are rewarded more than R&D and new products. | Sep 01 19:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But I don't think that can last forever with a million people a week losing their jobs under Trump and unemployment funds going broke while he does nothing about it. | Sep 01 19:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: It takes, sometimes, years, for bankruptcy surges after a recession. | Sep 01 19:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I don't think bankruptcy filings hit their peak from 2008 until like 2012. | Sep 01 19:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Usually what people do is they wait until the last possible second when they're already being sued. | Sep 01 19:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But corporate filings surge in the actual year of the recession, and we're seeing more of those than we did in 2008 or 2009. | Sep 01 19:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | People can only do is once every 8 years, so it pays to wait as long as you can and just sit on all the bills that are coming in. | Sep 01 19:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Literally, you know. Those credit card people might not sue for a year or two and you could have some really expensive medical bills or some traffic tickets or something to toss in if you wait. | Sep 01 19:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I tossed in over $2,500 in medical debt from the past 12 months and that was just my copays. | Sep 01 19:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Nothing REALLY bad happened. I had to go to the hospital for a CT Scan after Austin attacked me. | Sep 01 19:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You know, a lot of people don't even take an ambulance when they think they're having a heart attack. | Sep 01 19:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They call an Uber. | Sep 01 19:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There have been people die in an Uber on their way to the ER because the Uber is ten bucks and the ambulance is $2,000. | Sep 01 19:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I really worry that uber and lyft will fail because they've become a de facto ambulance company and without them, people will go into even deeper medical bills. | Sep 01 19:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Because there's no way to know if your insurance will pay for the ambulance or not. They decide if it was serious based on what happens in the ER, and it's some person who is in an office somewhere going "Yeah, that billing code is less serious than one we'd pay for an ambulance ride on.". | Sep 01 19:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I get better insurance than many people do and I still get lots of bills. | Sep 01 19:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | 20% copay was set as a rule of thumb decades ago when medical treatments may have cost 20% of what they do now. | Sep 01 19:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So you have to be insured to pay what your full bill would have been in the 80s. | Sep 01 19:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Oh god, not even the 80s. | Sep 01 19:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I didn't bother to buy health insurance in the 2000s because my doctor only charged me $35 as a cash patient. | Sep 01 19:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Walmart had a $4 drug list for the most common medicines. | Sep 01 19:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They and Kroger (and now Albertsons) try to compete with each other. They either sell the cheapest generics at a loss or give them away to get you in there because you may do your grocery shopping. | Sep 01 19:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So now it's like $300 to go to the doctor as a cash patient. It's terrible. | Sep 01 19:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But you go there to get a drug that might be free at the grocery store. | Sep 01 19:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I'm not sure what would happen if the federal courts strike down the Affordable Care Act. People would lose their insurance, but then what? | Sep 01 19:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | When we had more people uninsured, the cost of being a cash patient was much less because doctors competed on price. | Sep 01 19:54 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | The Do Not Call list is a joke. | Sep 01 20:25 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | I think my phone started ringing more. | Sep 01 21:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I called one of those bankruptcy junk mail companies. | Sep 01 21:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They asked why I wanted them to stop and I said, "You've been prohibited from sending me mail and I can turn these over to the post office, where you will pay $5,500 each time you send me a letter. Furthermore, anyone who pays 28% interest on a used car is an idiot.". | Sep 01 21:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/black-owners-accuse-mcdonalds-systematic-discrimination-1bn-lawsuit | Sep 01 22:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zerohedge.com | Black Owners Accuse McDonald's Of Systematic Discrimination In $1BN Lawsuit | Zero Hedge | Sep 01 22:19 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | McDonalds bailing out white franchisees only. | Sep 01 22:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The number of black-owned McDonalds restaurants in the country fell by half in the last 20 years, and now they say that the company won't give them the same subsidies that it does to ones owned by white people. | Sep 01 22:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Ray Kroc was a really bad guy. | Sep 01 22:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He pretty much stole the brand and the business model from its original owners and then strongarmed them into a shitty deal, and then didn't even give them the royalties they were owed under that contract. | Sep 01 22:21 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/01/amazon-seeks-intelligence-analyst-to-track-labor-organizing-threats.html | Sep 01 22:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnbc.com | Amazon seeks intelligence analyst to track 'labor organizing threats' | Sep 01 22:48 | |
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| MinceR | (cat) https://ircz.de/p/20012554 | Sep 01 23:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4308857) | Sep 01 23:38 | |
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