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oiaohm | decnet: Google did some highly questionable stuff. They had developed a whole stack of auto stuff https://github.com/google/auto | Nov 01 00:03 |
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - google/auto: A collection of source code generators for Java. | Nov 01 00:03 | |
oiaohm | decnet: so Oracle Java binary class file in automatic generated .class source file out.... Yep this is copyright infringement by the courts. | Nov 01 00:04 |
oiaohm | decnet: so it one thing to write your own java implementation only using the documentation is another thing todo what google did with android stuff. | Nov 01 00:06 |
decnet | I don't follow, if Google developed this generator that outputs source code, how is this questionable? | Nov 01 00:06 |
oiaohm | Its a transformative copy without any human interaction | Nov 01 00:06 |
decnet | Ah, Android, but I thought Microsoft 'owned' Android? | Nov 01 00:07 |
decnet | generator is not the same as copy! | Nov 01 00:07 |
oiaohm | That was googles idea | Nov 01 00:08 |
oiaohm | the court did not end up agreeing. | Nov 01 00:08 |
XRevan86 | decnet: Microsoft makes contracts with vendors, the result is MSOffice bundled with Samsung devices | Nov 01 00:08 |
decnet | so Microsoft is suing Microsoft for using Android? | Nov 01 00:09 |
decnet | "Why Microsoft Makes $5 to $15 From Every Android Device Sold" https://www.howtogeek.com/183766/why-microsoft-makes-5-to-15-from-every-android-device-sold/ | Nov 01 00:09 |
XRevan86 | But Android itself is completely a Google thing. | Nov 01 00:09 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.howtogeek.com | Why Microsoft Makes $5 to $15 From Every Android Device Sold | Nov 01 00:09 | |
oiaohm | decnet: when the generator is decoding the debugging information on the class its even more questionable. | Nov 01 00:10 |
XRevan86 | And they enforce their will through gapps licensing. | Nov 01 00:10 |
oiaohm | decnet: copyright of a book does not go away because you translate it into a new language by automated means. Same applies to source code/binaries. | Nov 01 00:10 |
decnet | oiaohm: you sound like a lawyer, is the input to this generator copyrighted - no - then the output can't be copyrighted. | Nov 01 00:11 |
oiaohm | decnet: at the time google did it there was no legal ruling so google played in legal grey area and has got burnt. | Nov 01 00:11 |
decnet | If a human read the source and re-implemented the functionality in different source, is this copying - no#!, like | Nov 01 00:12 |
oiaohm | If input of generator is copyrighted to someone else expected the output to still be copyrighted to the same someone else. This is true with images books...... So source code is no differenent. | Nov 01 00:13 |
oiaohm | To be legally safe you would use documentation One team documents what has to be implemented then another team implements from that documentation. | Nov 01 00:14 |
oiaohm | this normally generates a few unique errors showing independent development. | Nov 01 00:14 |
decnet | > If input of generator is copyrighted to .. you are in error. | Nov 01 00:15 |
oiaohm | decnet: you could be using a source generator on a binary that is your own copyright when you have lost the source code it does happen. | Nov 01 00:16 |
XRevan86 | I'd like to shift this law talk to the OpenJDK turf. | Nov 01 00:16 |
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decnet | Yes, enough lawyer talk ....................................................... | Nov 01 00:17 |
oiaohm | OpenJDK Microsoft had not signed OCA in the past because there was a joint settlement agreement over Microsoft Java screw up that just run out. | Nov 01 00:18 |
XRevan86 | Why is it copyright infringement to reimplement something that has been already released as Free Software? | Nov 01 00:18 |
oiaohm | OpenJDK was release GPL/LGPL google wanted MIT license. | Nov 01 00:18 |
XRevan86 | Oh, right, I see. | Nov 01 00:19 |
oiaohm | Changing a license without correct legal permission is still copyright infringement. | Nov 01 00:19 |
XRevan86 | Google violated copyleft then. | Nov 01 00:19 |
XRevan86 | I didn't think of it that way. | Nov 01 00:20 |
oiaohm | and Orcale being Oracle you breach any of their copyrights they will enforce to the full force of law. | Nov 01 00:20 |
MinceR | even if you don't :> | Nov 01 00:21 |
XRevan86 | or rather, *debatably* violated copyleft | Nov 01 00:21 |
MinceR | also, don't brew ale from orcs, it will be extremely nasty | Nov 01 00:22 |
oiaohm | XRevan86: the way the court case is going is did violate . At the time google staff did it it was might be ok but there is no legal ruling on the matter heck lets just try it and see if we get away with it. | Nov 01 00:23 |
MinceR | didn't one of the court rulings say google didn't violate copyright? | Nov 01 00:24 |
XRevan86 | MinceR: Not the latest one. | Nov 01 00:24 |
oiaohm | I would not recommend trying anything slightly questionable around copyright law near Orcale stuff. Yes they will push forwards and get running. | Nov 01 00:24 |
oiaohm | running/ruling | Nov 01 00:24 |
MinceR | XRevan86: how could obstacle know about that when they filed the lawsuit? | Nov 01 00:25 |
oiaohm | MinceR: it still the same first case. | Nov 01 00:25 |
MinceR | i would not recommend relying on obstacle's stuff | Nov 01 00:25 |
oiaohm | MinceR: getting though the usa Legal system takes ages. | Nov 01 00:25 |
MinceR | not only are they evil, most (if not all) of their stuff is shit | Nov 01 00:25 |
MinceR | and they don't deserve the mindshare | Nov 01 00:25 |
XRevan86 | or forked | Nov 01 00:25 |
MinceR | oiaohm: and until you do, you don't know whether copyright was breached | Nov 01 00:26 |
XRevan86 | The only exception being VirtualBox. Oh well, they seem to behave themselves, apart from https://redd.it/d1ttzp | Nov 01 00:26 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Oracle is going after companies using Virtualbox Extension Pack with download logs and their office IP. Oracle copying the old Torrenting lawsuits for its free for home user licenses that exclude businesses. : sysadmin | Nov 01 00:26 | |
MinceR | virtualbox is pretty shitty too | Nov 01 00:26 |
MinceR | it only looks good because the other virtualizers for winblows are even worse | Nov 01 00:27 |
XRevan86 | MinceR: They actively develop it. | Nov 01 00:27 |
MinceR | i got tired of dealing with features disappearing from virtualbox either permanently or until the guest was rebooted | Nov 01 00:27 |
XRevan86 | The improvement is there. | Nov 01 00:27 |
oiaohm | MinceR: we have got to the point that Google has coincided that X number of lines were copyied incorrectly. Its in how much is that mistake going to cost google in money. | Nov 01 00:27 |
MinceR | XRevan86: i know, it advertised new releases extremely annoyingly | Nov 01 00:27 |
MinceR | it's still unreliable though | Nov 01 00:27 |
MinceR | oiaohm: i'm also interested in the question of how many more developers will make the mistake of depending on obstacle stuff in the future | Nov 01 00:28 |
MinceR | i would stay away from java | Nov 01 00:28 |
XRevan86 | MinceR: Our luck Java is pretty crappy. | Nov 01 00:29 |
MinceR | yeah | Nov 01 00:29 |
MinceR | most of this industry is shit, though | Nov 01 00:29 |
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XRevan86 | MinceR: And chooses to apply JavaScript where it doesn't belong. | Nov 01 00:30 |
XRevan86 | Not shit in the particular way that favours Java much. | Nov 01 00:31 |
oiaohm | MinceR: the question is going to be at the end is android dex stuff going to make it way back to openjdk. | Nov 01 00:31 |
MinceR | another question is will anyone ever come up with a mobile OS that isn't shit | Nov 01 00:32 |
XRevan86 | It seems the hippiest language on the "back-end" is Go right now. | Nov 01 00:32 |
MinceR | lol no generics | Nov 01 00:32 |
decnet | Yes: it was called TRON, the real time operating system. | Nov 01 00:32 |
XRevan86 | MinceR: Yes, that one %). | Nov 01 00:33 |
decnet | https://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/TRON-The-Real-Time-Operating-System-Nucleus | Nov 01 00:33 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-whatis.techtarget.com | What is TRON (The Real-Time Operating System Nucleus)? - Definition from WhatIs.com | Nov 01 00:33 | |
XRevan86 | RTON? | Nov 01 00:33 |
XRevan86 | Why TRON? | Nov 01 00:33 |
decnet | It was designed scecifically for smal embedded devices, like mobile phones! | Nov 01 00:34 |
MinceR | movie reference | Nov 01 00:34 |
XRevan86 | The real-time Operating-system Nucleus? Seems forced. | Nov 01 00:34 |
MinceR | does it have a free software implementation? | Nov 01 00:34 |
XRevan86 | * Real-time | Nov 01 00:34 |
decnet | https://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/TRON-The-Real-Time-Operating-System-Nucleus | Nov 01 00:34 |
XRevan86 | "movie reference" – duh | Nov 01 00:35 |
XRevan86 | MinceR: A cute film, I liked it. But not much. | Nov 01 00:35 |
XRevan86 | Made me see TRON: Legacy. Somehow that one made even less sense. | Nov 01 00:36 |
decnet | Not a lot of CGI, apart from the lightcycles, the rest was hand pated cells. | Nov 01 00:36 |
decnet | hand painted b/w cells coloured in. | Nov 01 00:37 |
decnet | ot; slashdot has gone to the dogs too.https://it.slashdot.org/story/19/10/31/155253/china-linked-hackers-target-military-government-texts-fireeye-says | Nov 01 00:38 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-it.slashdot.org | China-Linked Hackers Target Military, Government Texts, FireEye Says - Slashdot | Nov 01 00:39 | |
MinceR | long ago | Nov 01 00:39 |
decnet | yea, any recommendations for decent techie sites? | Nov 01 00:39 |
MinceR | techrights :> | Nov 01 00:40 |
decnet | The layout could do with fixing, a bit too cluttered. | Nov 01 00:40 |
decnet | I'm off .. | Nov 01 00:41 |
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XRevan86 | A bigger priority is fixing the software part… | Nov 01 00:42 |
*XRevan86 remembers %). | Nov 01 00:42 | |
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schestowitz | [23:38] <decnet> anyways what do you think of the Microsoft Register article? https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/10/31/microsoft_joins_java_openjdk/ | Nov 01 01:43 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | 'No more room for wars in the new world'? Who are you and what have you done with Microsoft? • The Register | Nov 01 01:43 | |
schestowitz | [23:39] <MinceR> the register falls for bullshit yet again | Nov 01 01:43 |
schestowitz | That's Microsoft Tim http://techrights.org/2008/11/09/bribe-for-vista-7-review/ | Nov 01 01:43 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Tim Anderson Received Bribe for Vista 7 Review | Techrights | Nov 01 01:43 | |
schestowitz | typical of him | Nov 01 01:43 |
MinceR | :> | Nov 01 01:44 |
schestowitz | [00:40] <MinceR> techrights :> | Nov 01 01:44 |
schestowitz | cheers mate | Nov 01 01:44 |
MinceR | :) | Nov 01 01:44 |
schestowitz | we need to document more who's who in journalism | Nov 01 01:44 |
schestowitz | we still have an index for them, but it's badly out of date | Nov 01 01:44 |
schestowitz | more of them don't write anywhere anymore | Nov 01 01:44 |
schestowitz | yesterday I saw the term "BILEfield" | Nov 01 01:45 |
schestowitz | referring to byfield | Nov 01 01:45 |
MinceR | :> | Nov 01 01:45 |
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MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/KV7778E.jpg | Nov 01 02:07 |
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XRevan86 | MinceR: Technically, no. | Nov 01 02:09 |
XRevan86 | It's always The Future if the date is in the future from the date the script was conceived. | Nov 01 02:10 |
XRevan86 | Also called "Alternative Timeline" | Nov 01 02:11 |
superkuh | I'm hyped for it to be 2019, the year before the (Neo) Tokyo olympics. | Nov 01 02:11 |
XRevan86 | MinceR: It's especially visible with Star Trek | Nov 01 02:11 |
schestowitz | superkuh: because of the olympics of tokyo? | Nov 01 02:12 |
schestowitz | or tokyo | Nov 01 02:12 |
XRevan86 | New series are being shot with the lore still insisting nuclear war already happened. | Nov 01 02:12 |
superkuh | Those were the words (approximately) at the start of Akira. | Nov 01 02:13 |
XRevan86 | What's the alternative? Breaking continuity or rebooting just because IRL stuff hasn't turned out anywhere near as in the series? | Nov 01 02:15 |
superkuh | Just nuke tokyo. | Nov 01 02:15 |
XRevan86 | Two birds with one stone | Nov 01 02:15 |
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XRevan86 | Maybe in a hundred years people will discuss how there's no Babylon-class space station out there orbiting a distant planet… | Nov 01 02:19 |
XRevan86 | What a disappointment. | Nov 01 02:19 |
MinceR | assuming there will be people in a hundred years | Nov 01 02:20 |
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MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/QHCA8M0.jpg | Nov 01 02:43 |
schestowitz | happy halloween | Nov 01 02:44 |
schestowitz | pagan-some | Nov 01 02:44 |
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schestowitz | > x https://hackaday.com/2019/10/31/linuxs-marketing-problem/ | Nov 01 07:29 |
schestowitz | > # intentionally ignores the OEM monopoly | Nov 01 07:29 |
schestowitz | > = | Nov 01 07:29 |
schestowitz | I linked to that earlier anyway... there was a comment added by me... in social control media. | Nov 01 07:29 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux’s Marketing Problem | Hackaday | Nov 01 07:29 | |
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MinceR | https://d4l6i3suptb3a.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/pedophile-priest-costume.jpg | Nov 01 14:45 |
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schestowitz | now in lxer http://lxer.com/module/newswire/ext_link.php?rid=277150 | Nov 01 15:44 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The ‘Ethics in Software’ Decoy | Techrights | Nov 01 15:44 | |
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Survey: making Getting Things GNOME sustainable as a productivity app for public good http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/129991 [https://pleroma.site/objects/6ed6648e-d211-4640-8d85-f4f588e2f00f] | Nov 01 16:30 | |
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: KDE: Plasma Mobile, Akademy, Qt Champion, KDE Frameworks http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/129992 [https://pleroma.site/objects/995c97b4-5f9d-4734-82f6-e1cbe9a04ffb] | Nov 01 16:36 | |
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MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/632580.png | Nov 01 16:46 |
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Halloween Update for FreeCAD & Debian Science Work http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/129994 [https://pleroma.site/objects/5424bda2-2dfa-4170-80d5-b319c6305543] | Nov 01 17:15 | |
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MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/19080412 | Nov 01 17:18 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Nov 01 17:18 | |
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: 130,000! http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/130000 [https://pleroma.site/objects/9ac2b268-04d6-4e1f-a885-5e4a7a27adc4] | Nov 01 18:18 | |
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Ubuntu: The State of Robotics – October 2019 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/130005 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a67b3ee1-2c7b-4446-8ab4-e7f22d2e4279] | Nov 01 19:27 | |
MinceR | (audio:important) https://i.imgur.com/kDe81Lv.mp4 | Nov 01 19:33 |
XRevan86 | MinceR: Will download in 13 minutes by wget's estimations | Nov 01 19:52 |
*XRevan86 suspects something's not quite right. | Nov 01 19:52 | |
MinceR | lol | Nov 01 19:53 |
schestowitz | correct | Nov 01 19:53 |
schestowitz | something iw not right | Nov 01 19:53 |
schestowitz | your connection is too slow :-) | Nov 01 19:53 |
schestowitz | caution: video contains words like ass and tites if I hear it correctly | Nov 01 19:54 |
schestowitz | and some guy uses his palm | Nov 01 19:54 |
XRevan86 | schestowitz: It indeed is. I don't get why. | Nov 01 19:54 |
schestowitz | and tites was misspelled | Nov 01 19:54 |
MinceR | perhaps somebody insulted putler on imgur | Nov 01 19:54 |
schestowitz | thottle it! | Nov 01 19:54 |
schestowitz | throttle | Nov 01 19:55 |
XRevan86 | 56 KiB/s | Nov 01 19:55 |
XRevan86 | Downloads from my VPS are almost as bad. | Nov 01 19:56 |
XRevan86 | The irony – paid my ISP just today. | Nov 01 19:57 |
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XRevan86 | YouTube works fine | Nov 01 19:59 |
XRevan86 | 2 MiB/s | Nov 01 19:59 |
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XRevan86 | https://meduza.io/en/feature/2019/10/18/roberto-fabio-monda-cardenas from 18th of October | Nov 01 20:22 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE | Nov 01 20:23 | |
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XRevan86 | https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&u=https%3A%2F%2Fnewsru.com%2Frussia%2F01nov2019%2Finoagent_sud.html today's news | Nov 01 20:24 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-translate.google.com | Google Translate | Nov 01 20:24 | |
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XRevan86 | > Minjust's representative stated FBK's position to be "convinient" for all organisations which want to leave the registry, claiming that the foundation didn't send the money back immediately as didn't expect Minjust to notice the transaction and add FBK to the foreign agent registry. | Nov 01 20:27 |
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XRevan86 | Quite a statement. How sneaky for them not to return the money when their account was suspended at the time of the transaction. | Nov 01 20:29 |
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XRevan86 | https://meduza.io/en/news/2019/11/01/russia-s-supreme-court-liquidates-major-human-rights-organization-led-by-lev-ponomarev | Nov 01 20:34 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE | Nov 01 20:34 | |
XRevan86 | I think I see a rough picture of what's planned for Alexei Navalny in the near future. | Nov 01 20:34 |
MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/AcujQwa.mp4 | Nov 01 20:57 |
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MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/j76pC7x.mp4 ( https://imgur.com/gallery/MyiPt97 ) | Nov 01 22:27 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Double Yin Yang animation - Album on Imgur | Nov 01 22:27 | |
MinceR | (audio:unimportant) https://hugelol.com/lol/632615 | Nov 01 22:34 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hugelol.com | Immersion broken IGN 0/10, Dammit Todd! | Nov 01 22:34 | |
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MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/hX2suqd.mp4 ( https://imgur.com/gallery/TXO383y ) | Nov 01 23:16 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-When she says she wants to try something new - Album on Imgur | Nov 01 23:16 | |
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