●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, November 01, 2021 ●● ● Nov 01 [00:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO Staff Representation Again Warns About Collapse in Patent Quality (Due to Bad Management), Suggests Potential Improvements | Techrights [00:01] techrights-news So many people left #ipkat that this is published by "Unknown" today, including a plug for corrupt #epo (second event) http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/10/sunday-surprises.html see http://techrights.org/wiki/EPO [00:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Sunday Surprises - The IPKat [00:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO - Techrights [00:06] techrights-news Here come the #patent extremists again, trying to leverage #buzzwords like "Hey Hi" for their illegal agenda without saying #softwarepatents but very clearly alluding to that https://www.law.com/thelegalintelligencer/2021/10/26/could-artificial-intelligence-drive-patent-eligibility-reform/ #swpats [00:06] -altlink_718/#techrights- Cloudflare: law.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.law.com/thelegalintelligencer/2021/10/26/could-artificial-intelligence-drive-patent-eligibility-reform/ [00:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.law.com | Could Artificial Intelligence Drive Patent Eligibility Reform? | The Legal Intelligencer [00:08] techrights-news "Hey Hi" as the contemporary go-to nonsense for people who wish to #patent algorithms, so they rebrand with buzzwords https://www.iam-media.com/patenting-the-ai-pipeline-intellectual-property-ai-standardisation #swpats #softwarepatents [00:08] -altlink_718/#techrights- Cloudflare: iam-media.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.iam-media.com/patenting-the-ai-pipeline-intellectual-property-ai-standardisation [00:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.iam-media.com | Patenting the AI pipeline: intellectual property for AI before standardisation | IAM [00:08] techrights-news "threshold of modernity is reached when politics becomes bio-politicswhen power exercises control not simply over the bodies of living beings, but, in fact, regulates, monitors, and manufactures the life and life processes of those living beings. https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2021/10/25/debunking-the-sovereignty-from-foucault-to-agamben/ [00:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-moderndiplomacy.eu | Debunking the Sovereignty: From Foucault to Agamben - Modern Diplomacy [00:10] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #techrights [00:10] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 31.50 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 20.56 swarm size (avg): 260.02 [00:10] techrights-news From the #fanatics and #patent profiteers who wish to patent your #cat as if they invented #cats https://www.patentdocs.org/2021/10/further-and-more-detailed-study-of-domestic-cat-genome.html [00:10] -altlink_718/#techrights- Cloudflare: patentdocs.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.patentdocs.org/2021/10/further-and-more-detailed-study-of-domestic-cat-genome.html [00:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patentdocs.org | Patent Docs: Further and More Detailed Study of Domestic Cat Genome [00:11] techrights-news #Patent #litigation and harassment team, not "materials" team "https://www.mondaq.com/uk/patent/1125706/introducing-our-new-materials-team [00:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | Introducing Our New Materials Team - Intellectual Property - UK [00:13] techrights-news Inside the #lawsuit that ended #US #gene #patents https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02905-9 life and nature are not inventions, but lobbyists and greedy maniacs are working to "change" that [00:13] -altlink_718/#techrights- Cloudflare: nature.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02905-9 [00:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nature.com | Inside the lawsuit that ended US gene patenting [00:15] techrights-news No mention of the fact that these #EPO #tribunals are profoundly rigged, as #litigation firms profit from the injustice and the #patent maximalists' coup https://www.mathys-squire.com/insights-and-events/news/added-matter-in-medical-use-claims-epo-applies-greater-scrutiny-in-t-2842-18/ see http://techrights.org/2021/06/26/g-121-epo-catastrophe/ [00:15] -altlink_718/#techrights- Cloudflare: mathys-squire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.mathys-squire.com/insights-and-events/news/added-matter-in-medical-use-claims-epo-applies-greater-scrutiny-in-t-2842-18/ [00:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mathys-squire.com | Added matter in medical use claims - EPO applies greater scrutiny in T 2842/18 - Mathys & Squire LLP [00:17] techrights-news Or better yet, quit calling them "intellectual property rights"; They're rarely about intellect, they're not property, certainly not rights (monopolies aren't a right, ever) https://www.hilltimes.com/2021/10/25/to-foster-domestic-innovation-canada-needs-less-intellectual-property-rights-not-more/323411 [00:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hilltimes.com | To foster domestic innovation, Canada needs less intellectual property rights, not more - The Hill Times [00:18] techrights-news LOL! 2014. This did not age well!!!!! https://realbusiness.co.uk/europe-comes-one-step-closer-to-a-unitary-patent-system "Alan Johnson is a partner at Bristows." See http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Bristows_LLP [00:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Empty reply from server ( status 0 @ https://realbusiness.co.uk/europe-comes-one-step-closer-to-a-unitary-patent-system ) [00:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bristows LLP - Techrights [00:19] techrights-news This Did Not Age Well: #UPC to Start... 5 Years Ago http://techrights.org/2020/10/08/wouter-pors-on-upc/ #Techrights #unifiedpatentcourt #unitarypatent | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2020/10/08/wouter-pors-on-upc/ [00:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | This Did Not Age Well: UPC to Start 5 Years Ago | Techrights [00:23] techrights-news To many, #Mylan became best known for its #patent #fraud situation https://www.law360.com/articles/1435904/mylan-loses-bid-to-stall-trial-over-neurim-s-melatonin-patent see http://techrights.org/2017/11/07/attempts-to-undermine-ptab/ [00:23] -altlink_718/#techrights- Cloudflare: law360.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.law360.com/articles/1435904/mylan-loses-bid-to-stall-trial-over-neurim-s-melatonin-patent [00:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mylan Loses Bid To Stall Trial Over Neurim's Melatonin Patent - Law360 [00:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Patent Trial and Appeal Board (PTAB) Under Attack by the Patent Trolls Lobby Ahead of Congressional Intervention | Techrights [00:24] techrights-news HEY HI, HEY HI, HEY HI, HEY HI, HEY HI, HEY HI... https://www.justsecurity.org/78797/symposium-recap-security-privacy-and-innovation-reshaping-law-for-the-ai-era/ [00:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.justsecurity.org | Symposium Recap: Security, Privacy and Innovation Reshaping Law for the AI Era [00:25] techrights-news Retractable Exhaust Tips Star in New #Ford #Patent https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a38036111/ford-patent-exhaust-tips-retractable/ seems trivial... [00:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.caranddriver.com | Retractable Exhaust Tips Star in New Ford Patent [00:26] techrights-news "It's perhaps worth mentioning that the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988 covers the situation of computer-generated works in Section 9(3) - as long ago as 1988 - and so having something similar for computer-generated inventions wouldn't be an entirely new departure in UK law." http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/10/does-court-of-appeals-21-split-in.html?showComment=1635696627925#c4660537947934050477 [00:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Does the Court of Appeal's 2:1 split in Thaler underline the need for legislative review? - The IPKat [00:27] MinceR https://files.explosm.net/comics/Matt/left-claw-north-right-claw-south.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/1407/ ) [00:27] -altlink_718/#techrights- Cloudflare: explosm.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://files.explosm.net/comics/Matt/left-claw-north-right-claw-south.png [00:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cyanide & Happiness (Explosm.net) [00:27] techrights-news #Patent extremists are at it again and today's #IPKat gives them a platform http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/10/guest-post-closing-patent-loophole.html see http://techrights.org/2021/09/01/ipkitten-selling-the-soul/ [00:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | [Guest post] Closing the patent loophole across borders - The IPKat [00:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] A Cat (or Kat) That Sold All Its Souls | Techrights [00:32] techrights-news Mostly means for overcharging people and preventing people from getting the same at a lower cost; rich people's laws https://www.thefashionlaw.com/stopping-unauthorized-sellers-the-second-pillar-of-online-sales-control/ [00:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Empty reply from server ( status 0 @ https://www.thefashionlaw.com/stopping-unauthorized-sellers-the-second-pillar-of-online-sales-control/ ) [00:34] techrights-news Something amiss at #ipkat as they no longer know how to link correctly (many missing spaces in anchor text) and duplicate links posted. The exodus is showing... [00:36] techrights-news Sadly, #EU authorities are in bed with rich maximalists, offering them endless protection from the public instead of the opposite https://intellectual-property-helpdesk.ec.europa.eu/news-events/news/copyright-video-games-and-trade-marks-remote-controls-2021-10-15_en [00:36] -altlink_718/#techrights- Cloudflare: europa.eu | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://intellectual-property-helpdesk.ec.europa.eu/news-events/news/copyright-video-games-and-trade-marks-remote-controls-2021-10-15_en [00:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-intellectual-property-helpdesk.ec.europa.eu | Copyright in video games, and trade marks for remote controls [00:37] techrights-news When you put the wrong people in charge of #eu http://techrights.org/2019/11/21/breton-and-100-billion-man/ [00:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Understanding Thierry Breton: Thierry and the $100 Billion Man | Techrights [00:39] techrights-news Even in the domain of #copyrights #Bristows is lying and calling copyright "IP" http://copyrightblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/10/18/the-future-of-post-brexit-uk-exhaustion-and-the-implications-for-uk-copyright-and-ip-rights/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Bristows_LLP #BristowsLLP [00:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-copyrightblog.kluweriplaw.com | The future of post-Brexit UK exhaustion and the implications for UK copyright and IP rights - Kluwer Copyright Blog [00:40] techrights-news More clear misuse of the term "IP" https://ipdraughts.wordpress.com/2021/10/23/making-your-contracts-user-friendly/ what next, UDP? [00:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipdraughts.wordpress.com | Making your contracts user-friendly | IP Draughts [00:44] techrights-news #Linux 5.15 Released, This is Whats New http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157409#comment-31599 [00:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 5.15 Released with New NTFS File System, In-Kernel SMB Server, and More | Tux Machines [00:53] *altlink_718 has quit (connection closed) [00:53] *altlink_ad1 (~altlink_ad1@2f7u5j6f87p9g.irc) has joined #techrights ● Nov 01 [01:04] techrights-news Review: Selecting a new web browser and feeling Brave http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157413 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Review: Selecting a new web browser and feeling Brave | Tux Machines [01:05] techrights-news Judging by how much of a 'comeback' Halloween made owing to mass vaccination in the #uk I do not expect much from #xmas either... we're far from a solution [01:05] techrights-news #Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157414 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [01:06] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157415 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [01:07] techrights-news Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157416 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines [01:08] techrights-news Links 1/11/2021: Linux 5.15 and #Patent News Catchup http://techrights.org/2021/10/31/linux-5-15/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/31/linux-5-15/ [01:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 1/11/2021: Linux 5.15 and Patent News Catchup | Techrights [01:22] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 23.63 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 38.48 swarm size (avg): 260.02 [01:27] *AdmFubar1 has quit (connection closed) [01:28] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:30] *AdmFubar1 (~mradmin@ngqaam7baxnug.irc) has joined #techrights [01:31] techrights-news #9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: #Halloween Edition http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157417 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: Halloween Edition | Tux Machines [01:33] techrights-news The #EPO Never Left 'King' #Battistelli Behind It http://techrights.org/2021/10/31/battistelli-whitewashed/ #france #monaco #corruption [01:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPO Never Left King Battistelli Behind It | Techrights [01:35] DaemonFC -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- Parents Choice Rice Baby Cereal sold at Walmart recalled due to arsenic levels | KLRT - FOX16.com [01:35] DaemonFC DaemonFC: ^^^^^^ [01:35] DaemonFC Bill Hicks on marketing and advertising.... [01:36] DaemonFC "Yeah, we're making arsenic baby formula now. We're asking, 'Can your baby really be too quiet?'" [01:37] schestowitz Re: Next Up: Microsoft: Still a National Security Threat [01:37] schestowitz > Not only does this argument have a historical precedent, it also has an analog in nature that helped Strassmann predict these problems while further highlighting that Microsoft was already too big for its britches 20 years ago. [01:45] DaemonFC schestowitz, There was a joke in FreeDOS. Local user becomes root. [01:45] DaemonFC How to exploit: Power on the machine. [01:58] *GNUmoon has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) ● Nov 01 [02:01] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [02:03] DaemonFC schestowitz, So I played around with Fallout 4 some more. Something about the graphics stack doesn't handle sunlight effects properly. [02:03] DaemonFC Turns out the setting is called "Godrays quality." and turning it off makes the messed up effects go away. [02:04] DaemonFC It allows individual beams of light to be drawn in a more realistic way as they come through a tree or a broken rooftop or fog. [02:04] DaemonFC Not really that useful. The game looks great without it, especially since something about my system messes up the effect badly. [02:05] DaemonFC Might be worth trying again if there's a newer version of Mesa3d to backport later on. [02:06] DaemonFC For me, there's no real upside in messing around with distributions that change all the time as long as there's a recent kernel and Mesa to rope in and a place to go get the latest Wine and a couple other things. [02:06] DaemonFC There's almost 60,000 packages in Debian now and I really only give a fuck about maybe 5-6 of them being fairly new. [02:07] DaemonFC There's the kernel and Mesa. So there's your hardware and graphics support and most of the performance-critical stuff. That gets better, generally, over time. [02:07] DaemonFC There's LibreOffice, because document file format compatibility. [02:08] DaemonFC Wine, because it might make my games work better than they do now. [02:08] DaemonFC Lutris has a Debian repository set up on OpenSUSE Build Service. [02:08] DaemonFC Vivaldi isn't part of Debian. They manage a Debian repository of their own. [02:08] DaemonFC Pretty much the rest of the system can be Debian Stable. [02:22] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 29.70 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 21.95 swarm size (avg): 260.02 [02:34] *leah has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:34] *leah (~leah@wrh2nipuzrd3y.irc) has joined #techrights [02:37] techrights-news techpol + social irc Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. 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[06:03] *Now talking on #techrights [06:03] *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Unofficial channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org [06:03] *Topic for #techrights set by superkuh!~superkuh@user/superkuh at Thu May 20 20:25:48 2021 [06:23] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 35.21 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 43.96 swarm size (avg): 260.03 [06:31] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [06:31] *liberty_box_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [06:31] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [06:38] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Nov 01 [07:22] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.75 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 6.31 swarm size (avg): 260.04 [07:25] *rMdes has quit (Quit: The Lounge - https://thelounge.github.io) [07:40] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [07:41] techrights-news #Techrights Bulletin for Sunday, October 31, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext [07:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives [07:41] techrights-news #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing [07:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index [07:42] techrights-news Linux #Kernel 5.15 Released. This is Whats New http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157418 #GPL #Linux #TuxMachines [07:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 5.15 Released. This is What's New | Tux Machines [07:43] techrights-news Even this year, or as recently as months ago, the #EPO made it evident that it honours #BenotBattistelli , who left his French buddy #AntnioCampinos in charge of the EPO, perpetuating all the same #corruption while adding more to it http://techrights.org/2021/10/31/battistelli-whitewashed/ [07:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPO Never Left King Battistelli Behind It | Techrights [07:47] techrights-news NEWS #TheVerge #Games Roblox is back online after an outage that lasted three days https://www.theverge.com/2021/10/31/22756186/roblox-back-online-outage-weekend-chipotle [07:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Roblox is back online after an outage that lasted three days - The Verge [07:48] techrights-news NEWS #GaryVerhaegen #Programming Bash functions are better than I thought https://cuddly-octo-palm-tree.com/posts/2021-10-31-better-bash-functions/ [07:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cuddly-octo-palm-tree.com | Cuddly, Octo-Palm Tree: Bash functions are better than I thought [07:50] techrights-news NEWS #Futurism #Education Scammers Are Creating Fake Students on Harvard.edu and Using Them to Shill Brands https://futurism.com/fake-harvard-students [07:50] -altlink_ad1/#techrights- Cloudflare: futurism.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://futurism.com/fake-harvard-students [07:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-futurism.com | Scammers Are Creating Fake Students on Harvard.edu and Using Them to Shill Brands [07:50] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #techrights [07:51] *liberty_box (~liberty@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #techrights [07:51] *rianne (~rianne@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #techrights [07:51] *liberty_box_ (~liberty@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #techrights [07:52] techrights-news NEWS #KrebsOnSecurity #Confidentiality Zales.com Leaked Customer Data, Just Like Sister Firms Jared, Kay Jewelers Did in 2018 https://krebsonsecurity.com/2021/10/zales-com-leaked-customer-data-just-like-sister-firms-jared-kay-jewelers-did-in-2018/#more-57314 [07:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-krebsonsecurity.com | Zales.com Leaked Customer Data, Just Like Sister Firms Jared, Kay Jewelers Did in 2018 Krebs on Security [07:54] techrights-news NEWS #NewYorkTimes #buzzwords #surveillance HEY HI Is Not A-OK https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/30/opinion/eric-schmidt-ai.html [07:54] -altlink_ad1/#techrights- Cloudflare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/30/opinion/eric-schmidt-ai.html [07:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Opinion | Eric Schmidt Discusses the Dangers of A.I. - The New York Times [07:54] techrights-news NEWS #EestiRahvusringhling PPA chief: We respond to all threatening #socialcontrolmedia posts https://news.err.ee/1608387116/ppa-chief-we-respond-to-all-threatening-social-media-posts [07:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.err.ee | PPA chief: We respond to all threatening social media posts | Coronavirus | ERR ● Nov 01 [08:08] techrights-news NEWS #YahooNews #Energy [Cryptocurrency] is haram, says Indonesian Islamic organisation https://finance.yahoo.com/news/crypto-haram-says-indonesian-islamic-113951771.html [08:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-finance.yahoo.com | Crypto is haram, says Indonesian Islamic organisation [08:08] techrights-news NEWS #TheEconomist #Energy A new study argues that insufficient infrastructure doomed the first electric cars https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2021/10/30/a-new-study-argues-that-insufficient-infrastructure-doomed-the-first-electric-cars [08:08] -altlink_ad1/#techrights- Cloudflare: economist.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2021/10/30/a-new-study-argues-that-insufficient-infrastructure-doomed-the-first-electric-cars [08:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A new study argues that insufficient infrastructure doomed the first electric cars | The Economist [08:17] *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: Leaving) [08:22] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 18.80 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 20.68 swarm size (avg): 260.04 [08:25] psydruid https://nitter.pussthecat.org/doctorow/status/1453753539726094341 [08:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.pussthecat.org | Cory Doctorow (mostly) AFK (@doctorow): "It's hard to overstate what a scam academic and scientific publishing is. 1/" | Nitter by PussTheCat.org [08:26] psydruid https://pluralistic.net/2021/10/28/clintons-ghost/#cornucopia-concordance [08:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pluralistic.net | Pluralistic: 28 Oct 2021 Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow [08:27] schestowitz-TR he is right [08:29] techrights-news "It's run by an oligopoly of wildly profitable companies that coerce academics into working for free for them, and then sell the product of their labors back to the academics' employers (often public institutions) for eye-popping sums." https://nitter.pussthecat.org/doctorow/status/1453753540913074182#m [08:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.pussthecat.org | Cory Doctorow (mostly) AFK (@doctorow): "It's run by an oligopoly of wildly profitable companies that coerce academics into working for free for them, and then sell the product of their labors back to the academics' employers (often public institutions) for eye-popping sums. 2/" | Nitter by PussTheCat.org [08:29] techrights-news NEWS #TheVerge #Disinformation #Misinformation #Facebook puts tighter restrictions on vaccine misinformation targeted at children https://www.theverge.com/2021/10/30/22754046/facebook-tighter-restrictions-vaccine-misinformation-children #socialcontrolmedia is generally junk [08:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Facebook puts tighter restrictions on vaccine misinformation targeted at children - The Verge [08:32] schestowitz psydruid: sometimes you spend an hour reviewing a scoring a paper [08:32] schestowitz all they give you in return is, maybe a copy of some physical book [08:32] schestowitz they raise the price of tuition fees [08:32] schestowitz it's a swindle basically [08:33] schestowitz serfdom [08:33] techrights-news NEWS #NPR #Censorship The University of #Florida bars professors from testifying in a voting rights case https://text.npr.org/1050817670 [08:33] -altlink_ad1/#techrights- Cloudflare: npr.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://text.npr.org/1050817670 [08:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-text.npr.org | The University of Florida bars professors from testifying in a voting rights case [08:51] techrights-news #IRC Proceedings: Sunday, October 31, 2021 http://techrights.org/2021/11/01/irc-log-311021/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/11/01/irc-log-311021/ [08:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Sunday, October 31, 2021 | Techrights [08:53] techrights-news NEWS #NBC #Copyrights #Copyright From a hidden Picasso nude to an unfinished Beethoven, h uncovers lost art and new challenges https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/lost-picasso-unfinished-beethoven-ai-uncovers-lost-art-new-challenges-rcna2905 [08:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nbcnews.com | From a hidden Picasso nude to unfinished Beethoven, AI uncovers lost art and new challenges ● Nov 01 [09:02] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #techrights [09:04] techrights-news The EPOs Overseer/Overseen #Collusion Part IXXX: The EPOnian Micro-States - #Monaco and #Malta http://techrights.org/2021/11/01/epo-monaco-and-malta/ #epo #europe [09:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPOs Overseer/Overseen Collusion Part IXXX: The EPOnian Micro-States Monaco and Malta | Techrights [09:11] *CParadoxum_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:22] techrights-news [Meme] Microsoft: Always Blame the Victim (Failing That, Blame the Governments of Other Nations) http://techrights.org/2021/11/01/security-blame-shifting/ #microsoft #nsa #backdoor #victimBlaming #blameshifting [09:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Microsoft: Always Blame the Victim (Failing That, Blame the Governments of Other Nations) | Techrights [09:22] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 21.28 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 5.15 swarm size (avg): 260.05 [09:23] techrights-news NEWS #KrebsOnSecurity #Security Trojan Source Bug Threatens the Security of All Code https://krebsonsecurity.com/2021/11/trojan-source-bug-threatens-the-security-of-all-code/ [09:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-krebsonsecurity.com | Trojan Source Bug Threatens the Security of All Code Krebs on Security [09:23] techrights-news NEWS #CreativeCommons #Copyrights #Copyright Power to the people https://creativecommons.org/2021/10/31/power-to-the-people/ [09:23] -altlink_ad1/#techrights- Cloudflare: creativecommons.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://creativecommons.org/2021/10/31/power-to-the-people/ [09:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-creativecommons.org | Power to the people - Creative Commons [09:24] techrights-news NEWS #AralBalkan How to count #Unicode glyphs in #Vala using #Gtk https://ar.al/2021/10/31/how-to-count-unicode-glyphs-in-vala-using-gtk/ [09:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ar.al | How to count Unicode glyphs in Vala using Gtk Aral Balkan [09:25] techrights-news Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Adobe InDesign http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157419 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [09:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Adobe InDesign | Tux Machines [09:25] techrights-news #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157420 #Linux #TuxMachines [09:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [09:25] *CParadoxum_ (~quassel@m4gsqtdgyy73q.irc) has joined #techrights [09:33] *zoobab (~zoobab@zkrn6trni47ig.irc) has joined #techrights [09:40] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:40] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:40] *liberty_box_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:41] *rianne (~rianne@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #techrights [09:41] schestowitz-TR zoobab: meme coming [09:41] schestowitz-TR UPC [09:42] *liberty_box (~liberty@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #techrights [09:43] *liberty_box_ (~liberty@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #techrights [09:46] techrights-news Today in #Techrights http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157421 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [09:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines [09:47] techrights-news Multiple #Matrix sessions with Element on Fedora Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157422 #TuxMachines [09:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Multiple Matrix sessions with Element on Fedora Linux | Tux Machines [09:50] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:52] techrights-news [Meme] In 2022 We're Back to 2014 http://techrights.org/2021/11/01/whats-old-is-new/ #bristowsUPC #bristowsLLP #unifiedPatentCourt #unitaryPatent #teamUPC [09:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] In 2022 Were Back to 2014 | Techrights [09:54] techrights-news NEWS #LaQuadatureDuNet #europe #spying HEY HI Regulation: The #EU should not give in to the #surveillance industry lobbies https://www.laquadrature.net/en/2021/10/31/ai-regulation-the-eu-should-not-give-in-to-the-surveillance-industry-lobbies/ [09:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.laquadrature.net | AI Regulation: The EU should not give in to the surveillance industry lobbies La Quadrature du Net [09:55] techrights-news "US is decaying into madness because of bad public education, and the reason it's getting worse is because of people like Bill Gates." http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-311021.html#tOct%2031%2021:22:19 [09:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, October 31, 2021 [09:56] techrights-news iophk: how many of these acquisitions are used to offload debt? https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/corporate-news/microsoft-buys-two-hat-to-collaborate-on-online-safety-digital-wellness-solutions/87451231 #microsoft #debt #CookingTheBooks #accountingTricks http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_-_Financials [09:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | microsoft: Microsoft buys Two Hat to collaborate on online safety, digital wellness solutions, IT News, ET CIO [09:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft - Financials - Techrights [09:56] schestowitz x https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/digital-security/most-indian-firms-to-increase-cybersecurity-budget-in-2022-pwc-survey/87451172 [09:56] schestowitz # security can only be part of the design, it is not an aftermarket add-on [09:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | india cyber security: Most Indian firms to increase cybersecurity budget in 2022: PwC survey, IT News, ET CIO [09:57] techrights-news Laptops/CPUs on which it's impossible/unfeasible to install #GNU #Linux OSs; room for a thread? https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-laptop-and-netbook-25/laptops-cpus-on-which-it%27s-impossible-unfeasible-to-install-linux-oss%3B-room-for-a-thread-4175702881/ #linuxquestions [09:57] -altlink_ad1/#techrights- Cloudflare: linuxquestions.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-laptop-and-netbook-25/laptops-cpus-on-which-it%27s-impossible-unfeasible-to-install-linux-oss%3B-room-for-a-thread-4175702881/ [09:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxquestions.org | Laptops/CPUs on which it's impossible/unfeasible to install Linux OSs; room for a thread? [09:58] techrights-news #nytimes omits mention of #Microsoft https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/30/opinion/eric-schmidt-ai.html part of the #lobbying by the biggest criminals of all: http://techrights.org/2021/06/29/microsoft-behind-big-tech-narrative/ [09:58] -altlink_ad1/#techrights- Cloudflare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/30/opinion/eric-schmidt-ai.html [09:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Opinion | Eric Schmidt Discusses the Dangers of A.I. - The New York Times [09:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft is a Lot Worse Than Google, Amazon, Facebook, and Apple | Techrights ● Nov 01 [10:00] techrights-news More Than Two Decades of Causing Worsening #Cybersecurity - SoylentNews https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=21/10/31/1126207 #soylentnews http://techrights.org/2021/10/29/microsoft-national-security-threat/ [10:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-soylentnews.org | More Than Two Decades of Causing Worsening Cybersecurity - SoylentNews [10:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft: Still a National Security Threat | Techrights [10:04] techrights-news Incredibly enough, after all these years some sites still link to #BristowsLLP with its non-stop #fakenews and fabricated 'rumours' as an authoritative source on #UPC matters and #UnitaryPatent prospects http://techrights.org/2021/11/01/whats-old-is-new/ #epo [10:05] techrights-news As it turns out, the enablement of #dictatorship is possible by controlling a very large number of tiny states which are inexpensive to bribe http://techrights.org/2021/11/01/epo-monaco-and-malta/ #europe #epo #corruption [10:05] techrights-news #Microsoft habitually uses the dishonest narrative wherein the victims of Microsofts own shoddy software (with #NSA #backdoors ) are in fact the culprits http://techrights.org/2021/11/01/security-blame-shifting/ #Techrights | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/11/01/security-blame-shifting/ [10:10] techrights-news NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights #Dune Sharing Spiked After #HBO Release, Due to Quality or PR? https://torrentfreak.com/dune-piracy-spiked-after-hbo-release-due-to-quality-or-pr-211031/ [10:10] -altlink_ad1/#techrights- Cloudflare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/dune-piracy-spiked-after-hbo-release-due-to-quality-or-pr-211031/ [10:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Dune Piracy Spiked After HBO Release, Due to Quality or PR? * TorrentFreak [10:16] *m___ (~Adium@sskwereip3e42.irc) has joined #techrights [10:29] *leah has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:29] *leah (~leah@wrh2nipuzrd3y.irc) has joined #techrights [10:53] *m___ has quit (Quit: Leaving.) ● Nov 01 [11:14] *zoobab has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:18] *zoobab (~zoobab@zkrn6trni47ig.irc) has joined #techrights [11:29] techrights-news GNU #LinuxLibre 5.15 Kernel Is Here for Those Who Seek 100% Freedom for Their PCs http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157423 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [11:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU Linux-Libre 5.15 Kernel Is Here for Those Who Seek 100% Freedom for Their PCs | Tux Machines [11:30] techrights-news NEWS #CommonDreams #Politics Opinion | Corporate Crime Woke Corporatism and the Rise of Law and Order Politics https://www.commondreams.org/views/2021/10/31/corporate-crime-woke-corporatism-and-rise-law-and-order-politics see #ibm http://techrights.org/wiki/IBM#Racism [11:30] -altlink_ad1/#techrights- Cloudflare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/views/2021/10/31/corporate-crime-woke-corporatism-and-rise-law-and-order-politics [11:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | Corporate Crime Woke Corporatism and the Rise of Law and Order Politics | Russell Mokhiber [11:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM - Techrights [11:34] techrights-news GNU Linux-libre 5.15 Released - More Deblobbing, Fixing "-Werror" Breakage - Phoronix http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157423#comment-31600 [11:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU Linux-Libre 5.15 Kernel Is Here for Those Who Seek 100% Freedom for Their PCs | Tux Machines ● Nov 01 [12:00] techrights-news #WroughtFlesh is an upcoming FPS where you swap your organs | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/11/wrought-flesh-is-an-upcoming-fps-where-you-swap-your-organs #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games [12:00] -altlink_ad1/#techrights- Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/11/wrought-flesh-is-an-upcoming-fps-where-you-swap-your-organs [12:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Wrought Flesh is an upcoming FPS where you swap your organs | GamingOnLinux [12:00] techrights-news " #Ziggurat 2 from #MilkstoneStudios is a fast-paced roguelite FPS dungeon crawler and the 1.0 release is out now. Another that has native #GNU #Linux support, continuing like their previous releases." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/11/roguelite-fps-dungeon-crawler-ziggurat-2-has-left-early-access [12:00] -altlink_ad1/#techrights- Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/11/roguelite-fps-dungeon-crawler-ziggurat-2-has-left-early-access [12:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Roguelite FPS dungeon crawler Ziggurat 2 has left Early Access | GamingOnLinux [12:02] techrights-news #LiamDawe on gaming aspects of #Linux #kernel 5.15 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157409#comment-31601 [12:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 5.15 Released with New NTFS File System, In-Kernel SMB Server, and More | Tux Machines [12:10] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #techrights [12:10] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 19.25 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 6.20 swarm size (avg): 260.06 [12:22] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:23] *inky_ (~inky@5.77.159.6) has joined #techrights [12:26] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [12:30] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #techrights [12:30] techrights-news Best Linux Distro for Gaming http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157424 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [12:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Best Linux Distro for Gaming | Tux Machines [12:39] *includeals has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [12:44] techrights-news #Games: Roblox, Wrought Flesh, Ziggurat 2 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157425 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [12:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Roblox, Wrought Flesh, Ziggurat 2 | Tux Machines [12:45] techrights-news #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157426 #Linux #TuxMachines [12:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [12:46] techrights-news Introducing to the Gemini protocol http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157427 [12:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Introducing to the Gemini protocol | Tux Machines [12:54] techrights-news Weird. This morning the RSS feed of #distrowatch spews out announcements from 20 years ago. So weird. [12:55] techrights-news New #linux version co-maintained by mole from #microsoft https://www.kernel.org/releases.html [12:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.kernel.org | Active kernel releases [12:56] *leah has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:56] *leah (~leah@wrh2nipuzrd3y.irc) has joined #techrights [12:58] techrights-news Linux 5.15 Kernel Released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157409#comment-31603 [12:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 5.15 Released with New NTFS File System, In-Kernel SMB Server, and More | Tux Machines [12:59] techrights-news #Audacity 3.1 Sound Editor Released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157428 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [12:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Audacity 3.1 Sound Editor Released | Tux Machines ● Nov 01 [13:06] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157429 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [13:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [13:12] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:13] MinceR https://files.explosm.net/comics/Rob/roulette.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/1415/ ) [13:13] -altlink_ad1/#techrights- Cloudflare: explosm.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://files.explosm.net/comics/Rob/roulette.png [13:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cyanide & Happiness (Explosm.net) [13:21] techrights-news #google and #gulag -funded #mozilla : #rustland is ssssssssssssssooooooo secure. It'll solve the #security problems of #linux ... me: not sure more bloat is assured not to have its OWN fats to chew on. Today: https://blog.rust-lang.org/2021/11/01/cve-2021-42574.html [13:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.rust-lang.org | Security advisory for rustc (CVE-2021-42574) | Rust Blog [13:22] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 19.48 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 18.88 swarm size (avg): 260.05 [13:29] techrights-news Links 1/11/2021: GNU #LinuxLibre 5.15 and Audacity 3.1 http://techrights.org/2021/11/01/audacity-3-1/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/11/01/audacity-3-1/ [13:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 1/11/2021: GNU Linux-Libre 5.15 and Audacity 3.1 | Techrights [13:31] schestowitz MinceR: mad max [13:31] schestowitz the early ones [13:31] techrights-news #Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157430 #coding #rustlang #bash #TuxMachines [13:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [13:32] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:34] *psymin (~psymin@me3biw7mdts84.irc) has joined #techrights [13:34] *psymin (~psymin@user/psymin) has joined #techrights [13:40] MinceR (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-r6NY4Kl8Ms [13:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A History of Numberwang - YouTube [13:44] schestowitz A History of Numberwang - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=-r6NY4Kl8Ms [13:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | A History of Numberwang - Invidious [13:45] schestowitz haha, good one... [13:45] schestowitz Russell... [13:46] activelow so... revived darkplaces software rasterizer, with arm neon simd now... [13:47] activelow strangely, id software fully removed dpsoftrast, year 2018, digged through the git repo, pulled in sse2neon.h header, and ... slideshow of 1 frame per 10seconds [13:48] activelow let's see... i remember an AMD K6/2 single core 400MHz handling this, would suprise me if a quadcore a53 with neon simd couldn't [13:48] techrights-news Adding highlight to text in Gemini, but ALL CAPS can be used instead (to some extent). Overcomplicating #geminiProtocol is 'reinventing' #www (which is not what we want)https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/007486.html [13:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | A Gemini-style proposal [13:52] psydroid2 do you have a link to some piece of code where sse is being used? [13:53] *psydroid2 is on a mission to eradicate any and all dependencies on x86 instructions [13:53] schestowitz-TR libreoffice runs ok on arm [13:54] schestowitz-TR I wonder about firefox drm/eme [13:54] psydroid2 everything runs ok on arm, unless the software has been botched [13:54] schestowitz-TR I think there is a blob just for that, same for mesa [13:54] psydroid2 firefox drm/eme I couldn't find [13:55] psydroid2 maybe because they can't control (or "trust") the hardware entirely [13:59] techrights-news Recycling Enablers of the #EPO Regime and Bribing Them (or Rewarding Them) Years Later http://techrights.org/2021/11/01/enablers-of-the-epo-regime/ #corruption #france #monaco #patents [13:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Recycling Enablers of the EPO Regime and Bribing Them (or Rewarding Them) Years Later | Techrights ● Nov 01 [14:01] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@vf9uspfbqtzpu.irc) has joined #techrights [14:02] activelow psydroid2: working on it [14:02] activelow currently it's a local git diff [14:04] psydroid2 eventually I want to document how to port x86 sse/avx to ARM neon/sve2 and RISC-V vector instructions properly [14:05] psydroid2 I'll have a look on Friday evening, but I think this is really important [14:05] psydroid2 I believe the computer industry and especially developers have been making Intel much bigger and more important than they deserve to be [14:06] psydroid2 for GNU/Linux it's just one of tens of architectures and I treat it like that [14:10] activelow it is using ARM neon, not sse2 btw.; however currently it is painfully slow [14:10] *includeals (~includeal@a94-132-138-99.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #techrights [14:10] psydroid2 I know, but you are using sse2neon.h [14:10] psydroid2 so whatever translation that is doing it's not particularly efficient [14:10] activelow darkplaces engine, commit id 4a43205a0993d496822f3460158a41fd4f96c800 [14:11] psydroid2 I have been writing snippets about how to write ARM floating point and later on Neon and SVE2 directly [14:11] psydroid2 later on I will also look at other instruction sets such as RISC-V, MIPS, POWER and SPARC [14:12] activelow https://dpaste.com/C39PRXGZ7 [14:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dpaste: darkplaces-neon.patch [14:16] psydroid2 I have saved it and will take a look later [14:17] psydroid2 now I should really stop procrastinating and read my textbook for my exam at the end of the week [14:18] psydroid2 I just couldn't get myself to do anything this weekend [14:21] activelow psydroid2: exams are more important [14:22] psydroid2 activelow, I know, I just came out of a project that lasted for several weeks that ended on Friday night, so I really had to clear my mind the past few days [14:22] psydroid2 so for the next few days I should refresh everything I know about digital systems and hopefully be ready for the exam [14:23] techrights-news #IPKat Was Declawed by #Battistelli s Threats and Sanctions and Now Its Collapsing http://techrights.org/2021/11/01/no-more-merpels/ #epo #patents #ipkitten [14:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IP Kat Was Declawed by Battistellis Threats and Sanctions and Now Its Collapsing | Techrights [14:23] techrights-news #Firefox 94 Is Now Available for Download, Brings EGL on X11 for Intel/AMD Users http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157431 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [14:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Firefox 94 Is Now Available for Download, Brings EGL on X11 for Intel/AMD Users | Tux Machines [14:25] psydroid2 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28990820 [14:25] -altlink_ad1/#techrights- Cloudflare: ycombinator.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28990820 [14:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.ycombinator.com | .NET, Visual Studio, and Visual Studio Code are all expensive ad campaigns funde... | Hacker News [14:27] techrights-news #github series at #techrights to continue shortly. Usually one part every Monday for 3-4 more months. We have some explosive info. #microsoft #deletegithub [14:31] techrights-news "People are of course free to write their own clients that do their own processing. But the standard is: if you need that, serve Markdown or HTML documents instead of extending Gemtext." https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/007487.html [14:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | A Gemini-style proposal [14:34] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [14:36] MinceR (cat) https://imgur.com/t/cats/K4a6b51 [14:36] -altlink_ad1/#techrights- Cloudflare: imgur.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://imgur.com/t/cats/K4a6b51 [14:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-This is Spinal Cat - Album on Imgur [14:37] *x_ is now known as kingoffrance [14:40] schestowitz MinceR: http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/ip-kat-merpel.gif [14:40] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@eganakf2bu9k2.irc) has joined #techrights [14:42] MinceR looks fake [14:42] psydroid2 https://forums.xonotic.org/showthread.php?tid=5880 [14:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.xonotic.org | Engine: cpu extensions [14:43] activelow seems, in comparison to some other engines, darkplaces dpsoftrast applies some interpolation filter, which slows down processing [14:43] activelow anyway, got 5FPS already, at fullhd, yamagi q2 is 15FPS without any SIMD, something is broken, let's see if i can repair this [14:44] activelow at least, it's possible [14:52] *cubexyz has quit (connection closed) [14:52] *cubexyz (~cubexyz@asp6h25j3583y.irc) has joined #techrights [14:54] techrights-news CEO of #GitHub http://techrights.org/2020/10/11/nat-friedman-proprietary-software/ [14:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | GitHubs Nat Friedman Defended Proprietary Software at Novell, So Why Not at Microsoft? | Techrights [14:54] techrights-news #Fwupd 1.7.1 Released with Support for Dell Atomic Dock, Steelseries Stratus Controller http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157432 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [14:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fwupd 1.7.1 Released with Support for Dell Atomic Dock, Steelseries Stratus Controller | Tux Machines [14:57] *sepsinn (~sepsinn@c9nu4ummhfn7e.irc) has joined #techrights ● Nov 01 [15:14] MinceR https://hugelolcdn.com/i/788928.jpg [15:14] -altlink_ad1/#techrights- Cloudflare: hugelolcdn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://hugelolcdn.com/i/788928.jpg [15:36] activelow well, expected slightly better, software-rendering wasn't taken care off in decades it seems [15:36] activelow 4FPS now, at fullhd, i suspect some format conversion is applied, and the software rasterizer appies some costly interpolation too, which it shouldn't [15:37] psydruid that's still very low [15:37] psydruid I think I got Xonotic to run on my Orange Pi with OpenGL [15:37] activelow with opengl it's good enough [15:37] psydruid but it doesn't have enough RAM to go beyond the loading screen [15:38] activelow xonotic is loaded with too many features, nexuiz is better [15:38] psydruid they said you need at least 4 GB [15:38] *CrystalMath (~coderain@rbyreqthbxbgw.irc) has joined #techrights [15:38] activelow xonotic and nexuiz use the same engine, however nexuiz isn't overloaded with costly features [15:39] psydruid I have the Nexuiz source code here too, but I lack disk space, so I will build it later [15:39] activelow i won't [15:40] activelow i only remembered q1/darkplaces from 20years ago, and i know for sure it could render sufficiently fast on a 400MHz single core [15:41] activelow nowadays, the a53 quadcore which is almost 10x faster cannot anymore, software-rendering i mean [15:41] psydroid2 they messed up the code [15:41] psydroid2 is there something that can be done with the original source code [15:42] psydroid2 the first that got released under a free software licence [15:42] psydroid2 that shouldn't have any of the bloat of later releases [15:42] activelow well, it does work, at least, it's GPL, and dpsoftrast works with both SSE2 SIMD and ARM SIMD (sse2neon.h) [15:43] psydroid2 was it originally written to use MMX or did it only have scalar code? [15:44] activelow i suspect, some pixel format conversion is applied, which is very slow, and too dpsoftrast does interpolate the textures, which it shouldn't either [15:44] activelow don't know, dpsoftrast.c is only available with SSE/SSE2 [15:44] psydroid2 I must say I only played q1 once on my Athlon 1.2 GHz [15:44] psydroid2 all-right [15:45] psydroid2 I guess the code needs to be reworked over the course of some time [15:45] activelow and, btw., parallelization can be configured, maybe i try to boost that, don't know how much parallelism ARM neon SIMD can cope with [15:45] psydroid2 I don't know anything about SSE/AVX, so that would require more studying from my side [15:46] psydroid2 but actually I just want to know what that code does [15:46] psydroid2 is it all in dpsoftrast.c? [15:47] activelow yes, and another file which does #include an intel simd header to replace with sse2neon.h [15:47] activelow it's in the patch i posted [15:47] activelow as said, not important, just for fun to see what ARM neon simd can do [15:48] activelow next, i'll try this with directfb, which got a software scaler, and upscaling too could benefit from some SIMD [15:49] psydroid2 I think it's important in terms of what the code should actually look like [15:49] psydroid2 and how it can be applied to other sources that also have such dependencies on SSE/AVX [15:50] psydroid2 I really hate Intel for doing this and for software developers inside and outside of the company to go along with it [15:52] MinceR https://hugelolcdn.com/i/788345.jpg [15:52] -altlink_ad1/#techrights- Cloudflare: hugelolcdn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://hugelolcdn.com/i/788345.jpg [15:53] kingoffrance well, same thing happened when cpus got hardware-assisted virtualization ; i guess to me its a case of: separate the portable things from not, have some software fallback [15:55] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [15:58] kingoffrance that is ancient, but its a very old problem: https://www.lysator.liu.se/c/ten-commandments.html [15:58] kingoffrance Thou shalt foreswear, renounce, and abjure the vile heresy which claimeth that ``All the world's a VAX'', and have no commerce with the benighted heathens who cling to this barbarous belief, that the days of thy program may be long even though the days of thy current machine be short [15:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.lysator.liu.se | The Ten Commandments for C Programmers (Annotated Edition) [15:59] kingoffrance Beware, in particular, of the subtle and terrible ``All the world's a 32-bit machine'', which is almost true today but shall cease to be so before thy resume grows too much longer [15:59] kingoffrance some things never change :) ● Nov 01 [16:01] *psydroid2 has been keeping to "All the world's a 64-bit machine so far" [16:02] psydroid2 I need to put some effort into backporting some of the code I've written to 32-bit for the sake of completeness [16:02] psydroid2 I guess VAX is one of those that I should do it for [16:02] kingoffrance :) [16:10] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #techrights [16:10] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 21.25 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 6.41 swarm size (avg): 260.05 [16:13] MinceR (audio:music) https://hugelolcdn.com/v/788256.mp4 [16:13] -altlink_ad1/#techrights- Cloudflare: hugelolcdn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://hugelolcdn.com/v/788256.mp4 [16:22] XRevan86 MinceR: Eleanor Rigby [16:22] *inky (~inky@5.77.159.6) has joined #techrights [16:22] *inky_ has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [16:25] techrights-news Microsoft GitHub Expos Part IV Mr. #MobileCoin : From #Mono to #Plagiarism and to Unprecedented #GPLViolations at #GitHub (Microsoft) http://techrights.org/2021/11/01/mobilecoin-and-plagiarism/ [16:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft GitHub Expos Part IV Mr. MobileCoin: From Mono to Plagiarism and to Unprecedented GPL Violations at GitHub (Microsoft) | Techrights [16:29] techrights-news #Xfce s Apps Update for October 2021: New Releases of Ristretto, Xfce Terminal, Whisker Menu, Xfdashboard http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157433 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [16:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Xfces Apps Update for October 2021: New Releases of Ristretto, Xfce Terminal, Whisker Menu, Xfdashboard | Tux Machines [16:29] activelow interesting, it seems dpsoftrast.c implements various fancy OpenGL shaders; i'll disable those. certainly various lighting effects are extremely costly, and ancient darkplaces q1 didn't have them. [16:30] activelow seems this one opensourced the entire graphics voodoo of the industry, which is normally hidden inside hardware and proprietary drivers. [16:31] techrights-news "I think it's best to serve PDFs instead of other markup languages because everyone can view PDFs. Many people don't have a markdown viewer/compiler installed, and serving HTML is, in my opinion, overkill for Gemini." https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/007488.html [16:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | A Gemini-style proposal [16:32] techrights-news "HTML has always been a failure, it has been written by corporations that want the possibility to load any proprietary "binary" in a document. Not to mention Javascript." @zoobab of @ffii https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/007490.html [16:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | A Gemini-style proposal [16:36] psydroid2 and you said they removed it from the code at some point? [16:37] psydroid2 so it is part of an effort to make all applications depend on expensive 3d graphics hardware [16:43] techrights-news The sad state of the #EPO seems to involve a dangerous cocktail of soft bribes, threats/blackmail, and nepotism; today we look at states with a population as small as 2,500 smaller than #Germany s http://techrights.org/2021/11/01/enablers-of-the-epo-regime/ [16:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Recycling Enablers of the EPO Regime and Bribing Them (or Rewarding Them) Years Later | Techrights [16:44] techrights-news The public wants to receive information (e.g. facts about #EPO #corruption ), not self-promotional #marketing from law/litigation firms and overt #censorship of comments critical of #AntnioCampinos http://techrights.org/2021/11/01/no-more-merpels/ [16:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IP Kat Was Declawed by Battistellis Threats and Sanctions and Now Its Collapsing | Techrights [16:45] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:45] techrights-news #MobileCoin , which employed a person from #TeamMono (and a close associate of #GitHub s CEO), has serious accusations against it; as it turns out, GitHub is now looking to make #plagiarism mainstream, mostly in an effort to combat #copyleft http://techrights.org/2021/11/01/mobilecoin-and-plagiarism/ [16:47] techrights-news "We continue to have no adverts, so we depend on you!" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/11/enjoy-our-news-please-support-us-if-youre-able-to [16:47] -altlink_ad1/#techrights- Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/11/enjoy-our-news-please-support-us-if-youre-able-to [16:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Enjoy our news? Please support us if you're able to | GamingOnLinux [16:48] techrights-news The 20 Best Linux #Gaming Websites That Every Gamer Must Know https://www.ubuntupit.com/best-linux-gaming-websites-that-every-gamer-must-know/ #UbuntuPIT #GNU #Linux [16:48] -altlink_ad1/#techrights- Cloudflare: ubuntupit.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.ubuntupit.com/best-linux-gaming-websites-that-every-gamer-must-know/ [16:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ubuntupit.com | The 20 Best Linux Gaming Websites That Every Gamer Must Know [16:48] MinceR (cat) https://i.imgur.com/kYs7DzH.jpeg [16:48] -altlink_ad1/#techrights- Cloudflare: imgur.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://i.imgur.com/kYs7DzH.jpeg [16:49] techrights-news "The Spectre Update is live now for Warzone 2100, the real-time strategy game originally developed by Pumpkin Studios and published by Eidos Interactive that's nowadays free and open source." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/11/warzone-2100-the-spectre-update-is-out-with-game-replays-spectating-and-more [16:49] -altlink_ad1/#techrights- Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/11/warzone-2100-the-spectre-update-is-out-with-game-replays-spectating-and-more [16:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Warzone 2100 the 'Spectre Update' is out with game replays, spectating and more | GamingOnLinux [16:50] techrights-news The 'Grand Tour' update for extreme sports game #Descenders is out | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/11/the-grand-tour-update-for-extreme-sports-game-descenders-is-out #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games [16:50] -altlink_ad1/#techrights- Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/11/the-grand-tour-update-for-extreme-sports-game-descenders-is-out [16:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The 'Grand Tour' update for extreme sports game Descenders is out | GamingOnLinux [16:57] techrights-news #Games: Web Sites for GNU/Linux Gaming and Latest From Gaming on Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157434 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [16:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Web Sites for GNU/Linux Gaming and Latest From Gaming on Linux | Tux Machines [16:58] techrights-news #Motrix: A Beautiful Cross-Platform #freesw Download Manager http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157435 #TuxMachines [16:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Motrix: A Beautiful Cross-Platform Open-Source Download Manager | Tux Machines [16:58] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@i8ztuxnn8ze7w.irc) has joined #techrights [16:59] techrights-news "Really interesting research demonstrating how to hide vulnerabilities in source code by manipulating how #Unicode text is displayed. Its really clever, and not the sort of attack one would normally think about." https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2021/11/hiding-vulnerabilities-in-source-code.html [16:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hiding Vulnerabilities in Source Code - Schneier on Security ● Nov 01 [17:00] techrights-news LOL. They talk about #security but use #microsoft + #nsa #github https://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/2021/11/01/trojan-source-invisible-vulnerabilities/ #deletegithub [17:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.lightbluetouchpaper.org | Trojan Source: Invisible Vulnerabilities | Light Blue Touchpaper [17:02] techrights-news "In this nineteenth episode, WordPresss Executive director, Josepha Haden Chomphosy, discusses and expresses gratitude for the inspiration behind the People of WordPress series, HeroPress." https://wordpress.org/news/2021/11/episode-19-the-people-of-wordpress/ [17:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-News Episode 19: The People of WordPress WordPress.org [17:04] DaemonFC https://www.reddit.com/r/debian/comments/qjkmuy/trojanlinuxmultiverze_from_iso_file_false_alarm/ [17:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Trojan:Linux/Multiverze from iso file. False alarm or not : debian [17:04] DaemonFC schestowitz, ^ [17:05] schestowitz-TR reddit :/ [17:05] schestowitz-TR is that like a fake distro? [17:06] techrights-news Switch from Zoom: #HowTo run your own videoconferencing platform http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157436 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #freesw [17:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Switch from Zoom: How to run your own videoconferencing platform | Tux Machines [17:07] techrights-news #Linux gets its latest LTS kernel http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157409#comment-31604 [17:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 5.15 Released with New NTFS File System, In-Kernel SMB Server, and More | Tux Machines [17:08] DaemonFC is that like a fake distro? [17:08] DaemonFC Who knows what the guy actually downloaded. [17:08] schestowitz-TR anyway, it's reddit [17:09] schestowitz-TR so this is gossip [17:09] schestowitz-TR it's also a malicious site [17:09] schestowitz-TR if I open it feels like they mine coins on my PC or something [17:09] schestowitz-TR an exchange of my power bills for some shitpost from RandomAsssole with a Flair [17:10] schestowitz-TR BTW [17:10] schestowitz-TR if a REAL story makes it into Reddit [17:10] schestowitz-TR like, say, a Techrights investigate report [17:10] schestowitz-TR of course they will spike it [17:10] schestowitz-TR same as "Hacker" Noise [17:10] schestowitz-TR they're misnamed sites [17:10] schestowitz-TR that pretend to be "online communities" [17:10] schestowitz-TR Debian ought not be therer [17:10] schestowitz-TR waste of people's time [17:10] schestowitz-TR corporate plugs [17:11] schestowitz-TR suppression of actual information of interest [17:12] DaemonFC I used Rufus to make my live usb for Debian. [17:12] DaemonFC Defender didn't say anything about it. [17:12] kingoffrance re: "Really interesting research demonstrating how to hide vulnerabilities in source code by manipulating how #Unicode text is displayed i didnt read that, but a famous example is: https://github.com/reinderien/mimic [17:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - reinderien/mimic: [ab]using Unicode to create tragedy [17:12] DaemonFC I've only personally had two run ins with Windows malware. [17:13] DaemonFC On in like 1999 was the Chernobyl virus and Trend Micro's antivirus stopped it. [17:13] kingoffrance i love his logo, a mimic is a monster -in a box, coins flying everywhere lol nethack, final fantasy, both have that. it came from dungeons and dragon i presume [17:13] DaemonFC Thomson paid for a bunch of licenses so their employees wouldn't accidentally bring a virus to work. [17:14] techrights-news #microsoft : pull our leg, the head will hurt. Address some security holes (not the ones only NSA et al know about), break... PRINTING... AGAIN https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-windows-kb5006674-kb5006670-updates-break-printing/ [17:14] -altlink_ad1/#techrights- Cloudflare: bleepingcomputer.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-windows-kb5006674-kb5006670-updates-break-printing/ [17:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | Microsoft: Windows KB5006674, KB5006670updates break printing [17:14] DaemonFC So dad gave me a serial for Trend PC-Cillin. [17:14] DaemonFC Good thing too, because that was a BIOS flasher. [17:14] DaemonFC It would just flash your BIOS a bunch of times until the memory was bad and there was no firmware to boot your computer up. [17:14] DaemonFC So it ruined motherboards. [17:15] techrights-news Stop calling #microsoft #windows "spaghetti code". You are insulting Italians by comparing their cuisine to the Mafia (Microsoft). [17:15] DaemonFC Then in like 2005 with Windows XP, I hadn't gotten around to installing Firefox yet and I got one that installed itself automagically through Internet Explorer when I visited a website. [17:16] *zoobab has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:18] XRevan86 https://meduza.io/en/feature/2021/11/01/above-the-law Writing about torture, reposting support for Meduza, and rebalancing his own bank accounts this landed a Novosibirsk journalist on Russias "foreign agent" list [17:18] -altlink_ad1/#techrights- Cloudflare: meduza.io | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://meduza.io/en/feature/2021/11/01/above-the-law [17:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE [17:19] techrights-news antiX 21 Update Available to Download Based on Debian 11 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157397#comment-31606 [17:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | antiX-21 (Grup Yorum) released | Tux Machines [17:19] DaemonFC There was another one. I doewnloaded some "MP3" files that turned out to be WMA. I think that was early 2000s. [17:19] DaemonFC But since I wasn't expecting WMA, I looked at what they would do if I played them. They were set up to point Internet Explorer at a website that would install malware, by telling Windows Media Player that site was a licensing server for DRM. [17:20] DaemonFC Everything Microsoft has added to Windows has ultimately benefited malware authors. [17:21] DaemonFC Because it's one more pile of shit that Microsoft casually tosses in there and leaves to move on to the next thing, without ever auditing it for attack surface and fixing bugs. [17:21] XRevan86 https://existentialcomics.com/comic/418 [17:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-existentialcomics.com | Explaining Capitalism to Aliens - Existential Comics [17:21] DaemonFC If mjg59 was concerned about security in operating systems, he'd quit praising a company that operates this way. [17:22] DaemonFC Much less saying that hundreds of GB of legacy crap that hasn't been audited is "best practices". [17:23] DaemonFC But it's not just mjg59 praising this Windows rot and their fake security features that cover it up. [17:23] DaemonFC I saw a GNOME maintainer doing it the other day in a bug report. [17:24] DaemonFC Suggesting that Vista added proper capability separation to Windows. Must be why damned near everything you do triggers a security prompt today and the "Trusted Components" are a trampoline waiting for malicious code injections so that Microsoft can say there's less UAC noise. [17:24] techrights-news "With the growing popularity and prominence of Laravel, it is crucial to understand the ways to secure the website and applications." https://net2.com/top-7-laravel-security-practices-every-developer-should-know/ [17:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-net2.com | Top 7 Laravel Security Practices Every Developer Should Know [17:25] DaemonFC They add a "security feature" and then when their users pan it as "too noisy", they shut it up, sort of, at the cost of completely bypassing it while continuing to bother you sometimes. [17:25] techrights-news #Canonical is a compromised company pushing #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware https://ubuntu.com//blog/ubuntu-pro-microsoft-sql-server-for-azure see http://techrights.org/2021/07/09/canonical-ubuntu-microsoft/ use distros that are not #ubuntu [17:25] -altlink_ad1/#techrights- Cloudflare: ubuntu.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntu.com//blog/ubuntu-pro-microsoft-sql-server-for-azure [17:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ubuntu Pro-based Microsoft SQL Server Instances available for Azure | Ubuntu [17:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Canonical Dooms the Ubuntu Brand to Appease Microsoft | Techrights [17:26] DaemonFC Yeah, this totally compares to how administrative access works in *nix. [17:27] techrights-news #ubuntu as #microsoft #spyware : Cancel Canonical? http://techrights.org/2021/02/15/cancel-canonical/ #Techrights #canonical | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/02/15/cancel-canonical/ [17:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Cancel Canonical? | Techrights [17:28] DaemonFC I don't really like how Flatpak can make systemwide changes without prompting you for a password. [17:29] techrights-news #Security Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157438 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines [17:30] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, You spin up an Ubuntu VM and then a Canonical salesman calls on you. [17:31] DaemonFC Give him the "sarcastic" response from Fallout 4 to the Vault-Tec representative. [17:31] schestowitz Canonical adopted Microsoft tactics [17:31] DaemonFC "Go.....a...waaaay." [17:31] schestowitz Microsoft never had to buy Canonical [17:31] schestowitz just bribe it a little [17:31] schestowitz and now it shills Azure, SQL 'server' [sic], WSL (Windows [17:32] DaemonFC schestowitz, The more I play Fallout 4, the more I appreciate it though. [17:32] DaemonFC They fixed some gameplay mechanics that always felt more like a nuisance than anything. [17:32] DaemonFC Like, the only armor you need to repair as it gets damaged is power armor. [17:32] *inky_ (~inky@46.36.117.129) has joined #techrights [17:33] DaemonFC You can't just spend the entire game in power armor anymore once you find it and know how to use it because it runs on batteries, and while there are over a hundred of them in the game, you have to find them and they are not unlimited. If you want more, you have to learn how to make them. [17:34] DaemonFC They don't have weapons breaking down on you and needing repaired, but the balance is it's a bit harder to find powerful ammo and it costs more at vendors. [17:34] DaemonFC But on a technical level, the disgusting part about the Creation Engine.... [17:34] DaemonFC Is that it uses WMA files. [17:35] DaemonFC And this was before Microsoft bought them. [17:35] DaemonFC 5 years before the buyout, actually. [17:36] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [17:36] DaemonFC So this is pretty much going to be the last Fallout PC game that is play able on Linux for some time. [17:36] schestowitz [17:34] Is that it uses WMA files. [17:36] schestowitz in 2021?? [17:37] DaemonFC By the time Microsoft bought Bethesda, Fallout 4 with all of the mods that they were likely to ever make for it was already in Steam. [17:37] DaemonFC So pirates had ripped it out and cut off all of the Steam tentacles already. [17:37] schestowitz pirates? [17:37] DaemonFC So once again, they preserve video games. [17:37] schestowitz file sharing? [17:37] DaemonFC [17:34] Is that it uses WMA files. [17:38] DaemonFC in 2021?? [17:38] DaemonFC In 2015, when the game came out. [17:38] DaemonFC While I was trying to get it to work in Wine, it was complaining that it couldn't play WMA files using the DirectX audio APIs. [17:39] DaemonFC Then the game had no fallback for dealing with the file not playing, so the first time it tries to open one and fails, the engine can't handle it and crashes to desktop. [17:40] DaemonFC The Gamebryo Fallout and Oblivion titles would crash if it couldn't play MP3. [17:40] DaemonFC But they used DirectShow filters to do it, which Wine can run just fine if you have Gstreamer's 32-bit MP3 decoder. [17:41] DaemonFC It seems that Creation Engine uses the XAUDIO2 API. [17:41] DaemonFC https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XAudio2 [17:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | XAudio2 - Wikipedia [17:42] DaemonFC And the native CODEC for XAUDIO2 is a variant of WMA. [17:42] DaemonFC Called xWMA. [17:42] DaemonFC schestowitz, So it's pretty damned nasty. [17:42] DaemonFC Microsoft is circling the wagons around their NIH DirectX bullshit. [17:43] DaemonFC And it breaks basic Wine functionality because it introduces new APIs that are not better than the ones they replaced. [17:43] DaemonFC But Microsoft is well known for that. [17:43] DaemonFC Even a complete shithead like mjg59 knows it. [17:43] DaemonFC And how wonderful this is for attack surface. [17:48] *liberty_box_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:48] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:48] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:48] DaemonFC It really gets ridiculous on Windows when you're developing an application to play audio because there's like half a dozen APIs for "Open this file and play this file.". [17:48] psydruid so apparently Vista 10 and 11 are creating hundreds or even thousands of temp directories [17:49] psydruid https://www.askwoody.com/forums/topic/provtool-exe-creating-temp-folders/ [17:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Topic: ProvTool.exe creating temp folders @ AskWoody [17:49] psydruid https://borncity.com/win/2021/11/01/auch-windows-11-flutet-ordner-mit-leerem-tmp-verzeichnismll/ [17:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-borncity.com | Windows 11 also floods folders with empty TMP directory garbage | Born's Tech and Windows World [17:49] DaemonFC They "deprecated" DirectShow, but it has to be in there for legacy reasons. [17:49] psydruid does anyone working there even know what they are doing anymore? [17:49] DaemonFC Then the same thing happened to Kernel Streaming, which works in the sense that the application thinks that's what it's doing, but it still goes through the mixer now. [17:50] DaemonFC XACT3 exists, but is deprecated, and the user has to install DirectX 9 to get it back in Windows 10 or 11. [17:51] DaemonFC You can include your own audio playback engine with your game. Honestly, not the worst choice since at this point you can use whatever CODEC you want and games are over 100 GB these days and what's a few more MB? [17:51] DaemonFC Many studios do this to avoid Microsoft's shitty APIs and the churn that goes with them and the unhappy customers when Microsoft breaks it later and introduces something else. [17:52] DaemonFC Then there's XAUDIO2, which claims to be "high performance" even though WMA files have never been shown to be more capable than MP3. [17:53] *liberty_box (~liberty@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #techrights [17:53] DaemonFC Microsoft demonstrated Windows Media Audio "9" years back by finding a version of LAME that was several versions outdated and using the old and broken psy model from the ISO demo code. [17:53] DaemonFC And then saying "Hey, doesn't MP3 sound horrible?". [17:53] *rianne (~rianne@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #techrights [17:54] DaemonFC Well, of course it would if you do that, because the bugs were put in the ISO code to make something that could produce valid MP3 bitstreams. [17:54] DaemonFC Not something that would show competitors how to use the format very well. [17:55] *liberty_box_ (~liberty@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #techrights [17:55] DaemonFC There's a difference between a valid bitstream and an ideal encoder. A big one. [17:55] activelow mp3 is transparant, almost always, except if it isn't used (clipping) or not implemented correctly [17:55] DaemonFC The biggest problem with FFmpeg is that when they make a new CODEC, they put in one that is bare bones and then walk off and leave it. [17:55] DaemonFC Along with the one that actually works, usually. [17:56] DaemonFC MP3 is still fine for some video game music. [17:56] XRevan86 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khochu_peremen#Impact still going strong in Belarus' [17:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Khochu peremen - Wikipedia [17:57] DaemonFC If Bethesda was going to do anything to try to save some space, they should have moved the Creation Engine to use Opus. [17:57] XRevan86 https://yewtu.be/n3LwI9neD0U more covers to the god of covers. [17:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | . | | - Invidious [17:57] DaemonFC They could have used higher bitrates and CELT layer for the music and then lower bitrates and SILK for speech. [17:57] DaemonFC They put a lot of classical music in there. [17:58] DaemonFC The in-game explanation is that it's the Institute broadcasting on that frequency so that they can provide an encrypted carrier wave for their Synth teleporters to lock on to. [17:59] DaemonFC Since Fallout 4 takes place so close to where Fallout 3 did (Boston in Fallout 4 and Washington DC in Fallout 3), they pretty much had to tell you what the canonical ending of Fallout 3 was. [17:59] DaemonFC It was the Brotherhood of Steel ending. ● Nov 01 [18:00] XRevan86 Oh, scientes is offline, he may be casually interested in that. [18:00] DaemonFC It's been so long since I played 3, I can't recall exactly how that went down, but I know it involved blowing the shit out of the Enclave bunker at Raven Rock. [18:01] activelow meanwhile i could boost darkplaces/dpsoftrast to ~25FPS with arm neon simd and opengl fully removed [18:01] activelow at 960x540 resolution, and some texture interpolation removed, looks good still, but too slow [18:02] DaemonFC The Brotherhood and the Enclave are both remnants of the pre-war US government. The difference is the Enclave was a direct descendant of a Continuity of Government plan and thinks that it can just resurface and kill everyone else and take over again. [18:02] activelow not sure what the bottleneck is [18:02] psydruid is that a cover of a song? [18:02] XRevan86 psydruid: yes [18:03] DaemonFC The Brotherhood of Steel wants to capture all pre-war technology and eliminate "the trash" like ghouls and supermutants and put an end to the "abuse of technology" by getting rid of the Institute and their thinking machines, and to possess control of the nuclear weapons so raiders and such don't have them. [18:03] psydruid I thought so, just because of the way it sounds [18:03] DaemonFC I played the Institute ending last time on Fallout 4. But I could see a case for the Brotherhood too. [18:04] DaemonFC People didn't handle technology responsibly and it led to everyone in the world dying. [18:04] DaemonFC It would be better if it got preserved and then handed out sparingly as humanity rebuilds. [18:05] DaemonFC Of course, if you did the Brotherhood ending, the real danger would still be there. [18:05] DaemonFC Corrupt and incompetent politicians. [18:05] XRevan86 psydruid: https://youtu.be/LGFOkToQbRk the Kino reunion also released Calm Night (Live). [18:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- Live 2021 - YouTube [18:05] DaemonFC Jingoism. The ability to use power that they shouldn't have. [18:07] DaemonFC Just like in real life. [18:07] DaemonFC The only countries on this planet that really matter are the ones sitting on enough nuclear weapons to end everything a dozen times over. [18:07] DaemonFC And look at the people in charge of it..... [18:09] DaemonFC It doesn't take a war. It only takes one mistake. Or one coup. [18:09] DaemonFC The US is flirting with becoming a failed state in possession of nuclear weapons. [18:11] psydruid XRevan86, Russian titles are good for me, I never translate Russian (or any other Slavic language) to Dutch or English in my head, but rather to Sanskrit or Hindi [18:12] XRevan86 psydruid: TechrightsBot-tr is on the case too though. [18:14] DaemonFC https://wgntv.com/crime/chicago-police-sergeant-charged-after-allegedly-shooting-at-carjackers-in-evergreen-park/ [18:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wgntv.com | Chicago police sergeant charged after allegedly shooting at car thieves in Evergreen Park | WGN-TV [18:14] DaemonFC More "youth gone wild". schestowitz [18:15] DaemonFC And then that fucking token prosecutor that lets all of the rapists, looters, arsonists, murderers, and other shit for brains losers go.....charges a cop for shooting at a carjacker. [18:16] DaemonFC The moral of the story is if you live in Illinois, especially inside the city of Shitcongo, be prepared to turn over everything you own without a fight to whichever street thug with an illegal handgun asks for it. [18:16] DaemonFC Because if you take any action to stop them or defend yourself, see ya, wouldn't wanna be ya. [18:17] DaemonFC Now they're begging people to apply to be cops and it used to be that they could fill an entire convention center with applicants. [18:17] DaemonFC Now they can't even fill a small room. [18:18] DaemonFC Why is that? The cops get charged with a crime if they try to stop a crime. [18:18] DaemonFC The ones who are working in the city are resigning and going to the suburbs, along with the tax paying people who lived in the city and got tired of the taxes and reverse racism and criminal activity. [18:19] DaemonFC You give Chicago another 10 years at this rate, and it'll be another Detroit. [18:20] DaemonFC We're talking high crime, everything falling down, municipal bankruptcy. National Guard on the streets because nobody wants to be a street cop. [18:20] DaemonFC schestowitz, MinceR I signed the We The People petititon on the Obama White House site to scrap our criminal justice system entirely and replace it with the system from Judge Dredd. [18:21] activelow somehow, i expected better results with arm neon simd [18:21] DaemonFC It was after that petition go over 500,000 signatures and no response (even though they said the president would respond to anything that got over 100,000), that the entire site disappeared. [18:22] DaemonFC MinceR, The doctor on the flying base in Fallout 4 says "Please state the nature of your medical emergency." sometimes when you walk into the room. [18:23] DaemonFC They slip Star Trek references into all of the Fallout games. [18:23] DaemonFC Of course, that was in reference to the Emergency Medical Hologram Mark I that had to say "Please state the nature of the medical emergency." when he was activated. [18:24] DaemonFC schestowitz, This game clearly came out before the recent SJW bullshit though. [18:25] DaemonFC The doctor asks if you've had any sexual contact with non-human beings. [18:25] DaemonFC And the "Sarcasm" response goes (for a male character): "Well, there was this really ugly chick in college and I had to get really drunk and it was a dare......". [18:26] DaemonFC Stallman's post about women who have resigned themselves to the fact that nobody wants to have sex with them non-violently was offensive. [18:27] DaemonFC Very few men have gotten violent over that. [18:27] DaemonFC The idea of a violent incel male is a media creation of the far-left. [18:27] DaemonFC In response to largely one incident, the Elliot Rodger case. [18:27] DaemonFC And of course, what the leftist rags won't say is the guy was half-Asian. [18:28] DaemonFC They mention "anti-Asian" statements that he made (that all Asian men were ugly, etc.) without mentioning that he was half Asian. [18:28] DaemonFC So even in that case, it became extreme self-hatred, racism against something that he himself was. [18:28] DaemonFC Then he committed a horrific killing spree. [18:29] DaemonFC So even that case wasn't clearly all about being an incel. [18:29] DaemonFC He had a lot of mental health issues going on and nobody was addressing any of them, even though his family was rich. [18:30] DaemonFC His parents were both leftist Hollyweirdos. [18:30] DaemonFC schestowitz, I updated Mandy's Chromebook. [18:31] DaemonFC You can see what Microsoft was going for with Windows 11's new theme. [18:31] DaemonFC It's ripped almost straight out of the Chromebook. [18:31] DaemonFC But lightweight and fast and secure, Windows 11 is not. [18:37] DaemonFC Me, on Facebook: Last time I made brisket, Walmart's online grocery pickup substituted my meat for "tripe" and I spent the next 20 minutes trying to get my money back. Finally, they said don't worry about returning it and here's your money. I didn't want the tripe to go to waste, so I gave it to someone I knew whose mother could use it to make menudo. [18:37] DaemonFC I'm on one of those slow cooker recipe groups. [18:38] DaemonFC schestowitz, It really bugs me when food gets thrown away. [18:38] DaemonFC So I shop for food that's about to get thrown away. It saves it from being trashed and I can freeze it, and it saves us money. [18:39] DaemonFC Like I said previously, there's 8 billion people, we can't feed half of them, and here's all these religions saying have all these damned kids. [18:51] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:54] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@ms37rr5jwbxx6.irc) has joined #techrights [18:55] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [18:55] XRevan86 DaemonFC: An interesting thing about the Windows 11 design is that it's a practical 180 [18:59] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@qp6yf724hvt9q.irc) has joined #techrights ● Nov 01 [19:01] DaemonFC schestowitz, T-Mobster modem acting up again. [19:04] *liberty_box_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:04] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:04] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:05] *GNUmoon has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [19:06] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [19:06] activelow well, ok. i drop the idea to maintain darkplaces/dpsoftrast. it's slow, even with arm neon simd, all a53 cores maxed at +90%, and that's it [19:07] activelow at least, i got the sources. this software renderer implement almost everything modern opengl3+ does [19:08] activelow not willing to invest any more than a sunday afternoon or two; and i could increase performance 10x already, there isn't any more to be had. [19:09] *GNUmoon has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [19:09] activelow it is only confusing, because i am 100% certain an ancient AMD k6/2 had far less issues with software-rendering, and this one clocked at 400MHz only, single core, while the a53 maxed out 4 cores at 1300MHz [19:09] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [19:10] psydruid can you dig up the original source code that was published 20 years ago? [19:10] psydruid maybe things could be started from that [19:11] *zoobab (~zoobab@zkrn6trni47ig.irc) has joined #techrights [19:12] activelow just checked it, dpsoftrast.c was committed 2011, and darkplaces isn't 100% identical to the original quake1 engine released for DOS 1998 [19:12] *rianne (~rianne@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #techrights [19:12] activelow to my knowlegde, most games since year 2000 were forked from quake2 engine, not quake1 [19:13] *liberty_box_ (~liberty@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #techrights [19:13] activelow at least, if i wanted to see some examples how 3d rendering is implemented, there they are. [19:13] *liberty_box (~liberty@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #techrights [19:14] DaemonFC schestowitz, [19:14] activelow the original doom1 engine btw. didn't implement 3d character models, anyway, i got that one too with software rendering, and this one is relatively fast. [19:14] psydruid so currently nexuiz even with all of your patches is unplayable on quadcore 1.2 ghz ARM Cortex A53, even though quake 1 was playable on AMD K6-II 400 MHz [19:14] DaemonFC I don't know how Microsoft is selling any XBOX units at all. They charge extra for every little thing you want to do with it and they always design something that crashes and freezes on you and corrupts your save games. I gave up and got rid of my XBOX 360 years ago because of that. They'd send me a new one and then say "Sorry, but all of this stuff you downloaded for that game was tied to the console that failed. We replaced the console under [19:14] DaemonFC warranty but you're out the cash for DLC." and I never even got to play the DLC sometimes. [19:14] DaemonFC -me to my dad [19:15] psydruid I think it's good to go back to the earliest code that does what you want it to do and start from there [19:15] psydruid I'd rather not deal with x86-isms or "improvements" (while making everything worse or harder) [19:15] DaemonFC I complained loudly about it to their VP of XBOX Division, "Major Nelson", and they sent me a package in the mail with a $100 XBOX gift card and three games. [19:16] activelow yes, that's another disadvantage, the sse2neon.h header transforms sse2 calls to neon, at compile time, and it's probably easier to learn ARM asm directly, without any other Wintel confusion [19:16] DaemonFC I tossed it all in and sold it on Craigslist. [19:16] psydruid and I really think things happened in the code from 2000 until 2010 that shouldn't have happened [19:17] psydruid because x86 was king at the time with all RISC falling by the wayside [19:17] DaemonFC Intel's major problem lately isn't just all of these bugs. [19:17] MinceR 01 192114 < DaemonFC> It was after that petition go over 500,000 signatures and no response (even though they said the president would respond to anything that got over 100,000), that the entire site disappeared. [19:17] MinceR lol [19:17] activelow psydruid: at that time it was GPU offloading instead of SIMD optimizations [19:17] activelow which was even worse then AMD/Intel specific simd, because gpu drivers were closed source [19:17] activelow *than [19:17] DaemonFC It's these stupid instructions they're adding that nobody is ever going to use. [19:17] psydruid even though I got a Loongson MIPS in 2007 to move away from x86, shortly followed by PowerPC and SPARC [19:18] DaemonFC Or Fedora builds the entire system with it and now it doesn't perform better, but it does cut off everyone using hardware older than 2015 AMD or 2013 Intel. [19:18] psydruid however the performance delta was huge at the time [19:18] psydruid now it isn't anymore [19:18] DaemonFC AVX extensions are mostly useless to most people. [19:18] psydruid the best of ARM and Loongson can compete with x86 from a few years ago [19:19] DaemonFC Many programs that do testing find that Intel's AVX or even SSE extensions sometimes get beaten even by x87. [19:19] activelow i think, the whole bundle of low power consumptio, performance, and, a voila, PRICE, nothing can beat an ARM SBC [19:20] activelow i mean, the 1GiB quadcore thing i tested this with, it was 30Euros (4GiB are alot more expensive, sadly) [19:20] psydruid activelow, I did that last year, I ported my x86_64 asm to aarch64 and never looked back [19:20] DaemonFC Performing an AVX-512 function actually stalls out the execution pipeline such that while that one operation may be faster, it causes the CPU to effectively stall out and miss the opportunity to run more instructions. [19:20] psydruid I ported the aarch64 to ppc64/le and risc64 [19:20] activelow and such a system is good to go for at least another 10years, for the usual web/mail/office and some games [19:20] psydruid x86 is a trap for developers, making it harder to move to other hardware [19:21] psydruid just like Windows is a trap to make it harder to move to other open systems [19:21] DaemonFC So unless you have a bunch of stuff to run that benefits from using that sequentially, you're actually better off leaving it alone. [19:22] activelow anyway, i'll archive the git-diff for now, and leave it alone [19:22] psydruid Fedora's goal wasn't to give you better performance but to find an excuse for dropping support for older hardware [19:23] psydruid they pulled a Microsoft before Microsoft themselves did [19:24] psydruid and then their community died [19:27] activelow anyway, with the strict criteria, to not accept various "innovations" i can skip many "updates" and improvements [19:27] DaemonFC It seems like Intel thinks they're building up to EEE-ing GPGPU and then they can go back to selling x86 cores and a lot of them. [19:27] DaemonFC schestowitz, ^ [19:28] DaemonFC DG1,2, etc. will be their "See, we have GPGPU!". [19:28] psydruid it's a pipedream [19:28] activelow i'll give DirectFB neon simd optimization a try now, if this is possible [19:28] psydruid especially if they tie their GPUs to their own CPUs [19:28] DaemonFC And then they'll tie that into AVX extensions to say "But ours works better, and you have to code it to fall under our patents to get it!". [19:28] activelow the patches available are arm32 bit, i'll try them with aarch64, let's see how that goes [19:29] psydruid activelow, can you show me the actual sse2 code in darkplaces? [19:29] DaemonFC But Intel seems to have done a terrific job of implementing Vulkan! [19:29] activelow psydruid: dpsoftrast.c [19:29] DaemonFC They support it 100% and conform to the test suite. [19:29] DaemonFC Not even AMD does that. [19:29] activelow psydruid: and i posted the patch required to #include sse2neon.h [19:29] DaemonFC So, rare praise for Intel from me. They are obviously committed to doing Vulkan correctly. [19:30] activelow darkplaces commit id 4a43205a0993d496822f3460158a41fd4f96c800 is what i used here [19:31] psydruid activelow, it would be nice if they documented what it does, as I can look into it later, but I don't know how they reached the current state of the code [19:32] psydruid it does look clean, so maybe it's just a matter of learning SSE2 and porting it to NEON and SVE2 [19:32] psydruid I wouldn't mind doing that, but it will take some time [19:33] activelow psydruid: better don't do it, it's probably a waste of time [19:33] psydruid activelow, I would do it for the learning experience, if anything [19:33] psydruid and of course I would document the process while working on it [19:34] psydruid maybe it's me, but I consider not optimising code for ARM when there are x86 optimisations a bug [19:34] psydruid or if it doesn't work on ARM at all [19:34] psydruid but that rarely happens anymore these days [19:36] psydruid not all of dpsoftrast.c is SIMD code either [19:37] psydruid I will see what I will do with it [19:37] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:37] activelow be aware, dpsoftrast.c support was removed from darkplaces recently, only GLES2 and opengl remaining [19:37] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:37] *liberty_box_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:37] psydruid oh, I see [19:37] psydruid maybe it's because it caused portability problems [19:37] activelow that's why, those older games are interesting, because with doom1/quake1/quake2 the software is opensource [19:38] psydruid did the original dpsoftrast.c already have SSE2 optimisations? [19:38] activelow doom1 and quake2 software renderers contained no Intel SIMD at all, quake1/darkplaces required SSE hence i was happy to see sse2neon.h exists [19:38] psydruid I can't imagine it wasn't just plain C [19:38] activelow doom1/quake2 are plain c [19:38] activelow don't require any opengl voodoo either [19:39] psydruid but that didn't contain dpsoftrast.c, right? [19:39] psydruid so it's just this file that contains it [19:39] psydruid SSE2 code, I mean [19:39] activelow yes, doom1/quake2 implemented their own software renderers each, and darkplaces/dpsoftrast.c is both the most advanced and requires intel simd (or arm neon with the header) [19:40] psydruid all-right [19:40] psydruid that's all I needed to know [19:40] activelow maybe not, to activate the code paths directfb is required [19:40] *psydruid has plans to port it to ARM, RISC-V and POWER in the longer term [19:41] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [19:41] activelow i already fixed directfb to support vt-switching for example, and there was some issues with keyboard handling [19:41] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@rdz2nw4cj8wcw.irc) has joined #techrights [19:42] activelow meaning, sdl2 must be compiled and linked against directfb, ideally without any opengl/gles2 at all to avoid confusion [19:42] psydruid because otherwise it will pick up the OpenGL/GLES2 path [19:43] activelow depends, export SDL_VIDEODRIVER=directfb SDL_RENDER_DRIVER=software [19:43] psydruid all of this needs to be documented properly somewhere [19:43] activelow however, i prefer to avoid confusion, and fully removed mesa opengl and not link anything against libGL anymore at all [19:44] activelow psydruid: my gentoo overlay and ebuilds are clean and document this sufficiently [19:44] psydruid is it available somewhere? [19:44] activelow i don't git push, but i remember i had posted the directfb patch here too [19:45] activelow as a proof [19:45] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:45] activelow and yes, if some SIMD code paths can be implemented, than many embedded systems could provide multimedia, without any vendor-specific opengl anymore [19:46] *zoobab has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:47] activelow for example, BeagleBone is equipped with PowerVR SGX chips, which got no opensource driver [19:47] activelow Mali GPU required reverse engineering, many years [19:47] activelow when instead, some driver providing /dev/fb0 sufficed [19:48] activelow *then [19:49] psydruid so one week ago someone made a fix to that file [19:49] psydruid https://gitlab.com/xonotic/darkplaces/-/blob/5e9e998c1759bc0085c3273fc39f9ea6f72a7dc8/dpsoftrast.c#L32 [19:49] -altlink_ad1/#techrights- Cloudflare: gitlab.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://gitlab.com/xonotic/darkplaces/-/blob/5e9e998c1759bc0085c3273fc39f9ea6f72a7dc8/dpsoftrast.c#L32 [19:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dpsoftrast.c 5e9e998c1759bc0085c3273fc39f9ea6f72a7dc8 xonotic / darkplaces GitLab [19:49] psydruid and then it was removed? [19:50] psydruid or all of the SIMD code was removed? [19:51] activelow yes, there is some other repository: https://github.com/DarkPlacesEngine/darkplaces [19:51] psydruid I guess that should make things even easier [19:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - DarkPlacesEngine/darkplaces [19:51] activelow and there dpsoftrast.c is gone [19:51] activelow although, i don't know how xonotic/nexuiz/darkplaces divert from each other [19:52] activelow anyway, all games require vendor-specific gpu voodoo nowadays, and dpsoftrast.c is opensource and GPL [19:53] activelow furthermore, xonotic is horrible, it is overloaded with costly features, nexuiz is better [19:54] psydruid I have played xonotic a few times, but it does require more processing power and memory [19:54] psydruid nexuiz as shipped in Debian doesn't run on my Orange Pi [19:54] *leah has quit (connection closed) [19:54] MinceR afaik xonotic still uses stock darkplaces [19:54] *leah (~leah@wrh2nipuzrd3y.irc) has joined #techrights [19:54] MinceR nexuiz is dead [19:55] MinceR and plenty of things that were awkward in nexuiz were fixed in xonotic [19:55] psydruid and the xonotic I built won't run because it has too little memory [19:55] MinceR like the crylink and movement [19:55] psydruid so I'll wait until I get an SBC with more RAM [19:56] activelow i tried xonotic, and rk3399 wasn't powerful enough for xonotic, it could handle nexuiz however with opengl available [19:56] activelow rk3328 is too slow, even with opengl, for any of the variants [19:56] MinceR my gaming laptop is powerful enough for xonotic :> [19:56] psydruid really? [19:57] activelow for rk3399 i could patch some opengl related issues too, which doubled the performance of this btw. [19:57] activelow meanwhile, i fully removed opengl, for other reasons [19:57] *leah has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:57] *leah (~leah@wrh2nipuzrd3y.irc) has joined #techrights [19:58] psydruid I can even play it with Celeron N2840 and N3060 with 4 GiB and 8 GiB respectively [19:58] psydruid and I expect RK3399 to be able to handle it too [19:59] psydruid maybe if I ever get my Jetson Nano up and running [19:59] activelow nope rk3399 couldn't handle xonotic, nexuiz was fast after i applied some hotfix patches [19:59] psydruid it's really picky about power supplies [19:59] activelow btw. this is remarkable too, because the rk3399 board is a low-power system too, but i do not like it for other reasons ● Nov 01 [20:00] psydruid I only paid 30 for it and it seems to boot with a phone charger, but then it doesn't get enough power to fully boot [20:00] activelow anyway, prboom-plus is the latest greatest i got, and this suffices for occasional fun [20:00] psydruid not all of the code is upstream? [20:00] psydruid there are still some blobs that are needed? [20:01] activelow for rk3399 opengl? no, it only got some bugs with memory init and some bug in the video driver, which is upstream but not mainline [20:01] activelow once required patches are integrated, opengl performance of rk3399 is beafy enough, for nexuiz, not xonotic [20:02] activelow anyway, opengl isn't worth the effort imo, too much clutter and chaos everywhere: kernel, compiler, drivers, mesa, x11 [20:03] AdmFubar hhhmmmm the cloud https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-warns-of-rise-in-password-sprays-targeting-cloud-accounts/ [20:03] -altlink_ad1/#techrights- Cloudflare: bleepingcomputer.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-warns-of-rise-in-password-sprays-targeting-cloud-accounts/ [20:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | Microsoft warns of rise in password sprays targeting cloud accounts [20:06] *gde33 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [20:07] *gde33 (~gde33@84-106-154-98.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl) has joined #techrights [20:07] *zoobab (~zoobab@zkrn6trni47ig.irc) has joined #techrights [20:08] *gde33 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [20:08] *gde33 (~gde33@84-106-154-98.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl) has joined #techrights [20:10] *gde33 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [20:10] *gde33 (~gde33@84-106-154-98.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl) has joined #techrights [20:14] schestowitz_log_ rtn0: Hi. It's Roy. I see you're in a channel that's not ours. [20:26] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@kh78hi5due368.irc) has joined #techrights [20:30] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #techrights [20:30] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 22.33 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 27.01 swarm size (avg): 260.05 [20:30] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 22.33 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 27.01 swarm size (avg): 260.05 [20:40] DaemonFC I think the OpenBSD people have a point about Linux from a security and "bugginess" angle. [20:40] DaemonFC There's more code churn than code auditing and fixing going in over the entirety of the Linux kernel tree. [20:41] DaemonFC At around the time they started dabbling into compressed RAM devices, they did zcache, zswap, and zram at the same time without doing a great job of documenting any of it. [20:41] DaemonFC Then zcache became unmaintained and dropped. 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[20:54] Librarian We know you don't really respect speech rights and economic rights, and are often dishonest in the headlines about tech rights that you author, so having a fallback place for people to come where you don't have any power is a good idea. ● Nov 01 [21:03] activelow what's the linux "kernel" anyway? [21:04] activelow without the hundreds of driver modules and extensions added [21:04] activelow it is a few hundreds of thousands of lines of code, instead of dozens of millions [21:04] activelow and, it continues growing [21:08] psydruid I just consider Linux something that works for now [21:08] psydruid if it works that's great [21:08] psydruid and if it stops working, it's no big deal [21:09] psydruid as long as those same developers stay away from OpenBSD and make it just as bad from a security and code churn perspective [21:14] psydruid https://community.arm.com/arm-community-blogs/b/tools-software-ides-blog/posts/performance-improvements-in-gcc-11 [21:14] -altlink_ad1/#techrights- Cloudflare: arm.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://community.arm.com/arm-community-blogs/b/tools-software-ides-blog/posts/performance-improvements-in-gcc-11 [21:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-community.arm.com | GCC 11 Performance improvements - Tools, Software and IDEs blog - Arm Community blogs - Arm Community [21:22] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 22.83 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 4.95 swarm size (avg): 260.05 [21:33] AdmFubar https://www.darkreading.com/threat-intelligence/new-trojan-source-method-lets-attackers-hide-vulns-in-source-code [21:33] -altlink_ad1/#techrights- Cloudflare: darkreading.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.darkreading.com/threat-intelligence/new-trojan-source-method-lets-attackers-hide-vulns-in-source-code [21:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.darkreading.com | New 'Trojan Source' Method Lets Attackers Hide Vulns in Source Code [21:34] MinceR https://hugelolcdn.com/i/787907.jpg [21:34] -altlink_ad1/#techrights- Cloudflare: hugelolcdn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://hugelolcdn.com/i/787907.jpg [21:42] AdmFubar https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/software-development-qa-message.html [21:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dedoimedo.com | Software testing - a 32-year-old message [21:47] schestowitz-TR ha [21:48] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:48] schestowitz AdmFubar: http://techrights.org/2021/09/30/azure-brute-force/ [21:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Whistleblower and Clients Warned, More Than 2 Years Ago in Fact, About the Current Azure Mess (But Microsoft Ignored Those Warnings, Buried Facts) | Techrights [21:48] schestowitz Microsoft dismissed this problem for a very long time [21:49] activelow i remember, my last employer, regularly urged me to try Azure... some ms certified afiliate of german industry [21:49] schestowitz [20:49] schestowitz, Wordpress is going to inject "sponsored stories" into free blogs. [21:49] schestowitz There are no free blog [21:49] schestowitz and automattic is not a charity [21:49] activelow problem, i had no idea what to do with it, this Azure [21:51] schestowitz it's crap [21:51] schestowitz for a lot of reason [21:51] schestowitz price, security, reliability [21:51] schestowitz that's why it's failing [21:51] schestowitz they throw lots of money into pretending it'll be OK [21:51] schestowitz and they rebrand things"Azure" [21:51] schestowitz to pretend that it is growing [21:55] psydruid activelow, looking at the SSE_POSSIBLE parts in the code, they are really not all that long [21:56] psydruid I have already cloned the darkplaces code to my Gitlab account and will take a look over the next few months to see if I can figure it out somehow and write replacement functions [21:56] psydruid but I am still not sure if the performance will be good enough [21:57] psydruid second biggest Pain in the Azure after Apple [21:57] schestowitz https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft-sql-server-ubuntu-pro-microsoft-azure [21:57] -altlink_ad1/#techrights- Cloudflare: windowscentral.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft-sql-server-ubuntu-pro-microsoft-azure [21:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.windowscentral.com | Microsoft and publisher of Ubuntu team up to deliver cost-effective data management on Azure | Windows Central [21:57] schestowitz I will never install Ubuntu again [21:58] psydruid I will get rid of it with my next storage upgrade on the laptop on which I have it installed [21:59] psydruid I realised after running Debian Sid for 2 years on ARM that it is just about as stable as Ubuntu without the bugs [21:59] psydruid so these releases every 6 months aren't really useful either [21:59] psydruid Ubuntu has really reached the end of its usefulness [21:59] psydruid and is now more of a liability than an asset ● Nov 01 [22:00] activelow psydruid: not sure if any rewrite is necessary, with the sse2neon.h header [22:01] activelow at least, with those, performance could be verified, and it isn't pleasant [22:01] psydruid activelow, maybe not, but I want to figure this out anyway [22:01] schestowitz spamnil https://www.tfir.io/intel-announces-a-unified-developer-zone-oneapi-2022-toolkits-and-more/ [22:01] -altlink_ad1/#techrights- Cloudflare: tfir.io | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.tfir.io/intel-announces-a-unified-developer-zone-oneapi-2022-toolkits-and-more/ [22:01] schestowitz pre operative [22:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tfir.io | Intel Announces A Unified Developer Zone, oneAPI 2022 Toolkits and More - TFiR: Interviews, News & Analysis by Swapnil Bhartiya [22:01] schestowitz *PR [22:01] psydruid because I want to write NEON and SVE2 code [22:01] psydruid and also RISC-V vector code [22:02] psydruid without knowing anything about SSE and AVX [22:03] psydruid for me anything Intel is bug no 1 as Windows used to be for Ubuntu [22:04] psydruid didn't Amazon release a tool a few days ago to make migration from MS SQL Server easier? [22:04] schestowitz-TR canonical bug #1 now: not making enough money [22:05] schestowitz-TR babelfish [22:05] psydruid canonical bugfix #1: go out of business [22:05] schestowitz-TR amazon took the brand of the more famous translation service [22:05] activelow psydruid: some interesting example exists for DirectFB, not recommended either, with neon simd patched into [22:05] schestowitz-TR which also became a site [22:05] schestowitz-TR it used to be a piece of sw in the 90s iirc [22:06] schestowitz-TR they gave it on cd-roms [22:06] activelow there is some separate git repo again somewhere, which included this for an old version, which i merge into latest HEAD now, and see if it is suitable for aarch64 too (because it's for arm32) [22:09] activelow not trivial, because aarch64 and arm require separate #ifdefs in the configure script and sources... at least i can prepare for this [22:10] psydruid I have only bothered with aarch64 so far [22:18] schestowitz-TR https://nitter.eu/BrideOfLinux/status/1455197944697835525#m [22:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.eu | Christine Hall (@BrideOfLinux): "Mark your calendar for December 9 if you want to go, but bear in mind, as Tux Machines/Techrights points out, none of these people are really open sourcers: Explore the Future of Software and Cybersecurity at the Second Annual Open Source Security Summit https://buff.ly/3buo6Ou" | nitter [22:29] MinceR https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/stash https://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/162463321220210625after.png [22:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Stash [22:35] XRevan86 https://meduza.io/en/feature/2021/11/01/they-were-used Three people arrested on suspicion of leaking data used in Navalny poisoning investigation [22:35] -altlink_ad1/#techrights- Cloudflare: meduza.io | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://meduza.io/en/feature/2021/11/01/they-were-used [22:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE [22:48] activelow well "Error: unknown mnemonic" ... so far so good, aarch64 gcc doesn't appreciate ordinary arm mnemonics [22:50] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:53] MinceR https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/average [22:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Average [22:56] activelow seems to be some apple syntax, while gcc expects another archtectural specific mnemonic [22:56] activelow that's not a good way to learn ASM [22:57] MinceR i'm guessing gas uses at&t syntax ● Nov 01 [23:00] activelow in total 500 lines of asm code require rewrite, wouldn't know yet where to begin [23:00] activelow and, the asm was intended for arm32, not aarch64 [23:03] activelow although, chances are, data types were limited to 32bit (bmp pixel processing which doesn't use any 64bit) [23:05] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [23:05] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [23:17] activelow i'll try something else, which is gcc got some auto-vectorization, and some verbose output log if any function was vectorized by the compiler instead of inline asm [23:18] activelow investing any effort into the chaos of vendor-specific SIMD is wasted time and effort, i'll check some legacy z80 or mos6502 instead to learn some more about this [23:21] activelow and it is interesting, activating SVE in kernel did yield some improvements although i didn't hack any architecture specific asm anywhere yet, only what kernel and gcc offer by default [23:36] MinceR (cat) (audio:music) https://i.imgur.com/faN1E15.mp4 [23:36] -altlink_ad1/#techrights- Cloudflare: imgur.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://i.imgur.com/faN1E15.mp4 [23:36] psydruid which lines of code? [23:37] MinceR i'm guessing SVE is not Strife: Veteran Edition [23:37] activelow psydruid: DirectFB neon asm [23:37] MinceR (even though it should be) [23:37] psydruid activelow, is that code up somewhere? [23:38] activelow yes, although i prepared a clean gentoo ebuild, for quick compile/test [23:38] activelow psydruid: i think it's too much effort, i'll try gcc auto-vectorization next [23:39] activelow maybe gcc hits some/most of the functions and applies vectorization [23:40] psydruid it would be interesting to see what kind of performance you get out of that [23:40] psydruid but as I found out a few hours ago gcc is reworking its support for ARM [23:40] activelow and i do notice, directfb multithreading already utilizes multicore rather nice, by multithreading [23:46] psydruid I've cloned those projects anyway [23:46] techrights-news #microsoft dismissed this problem for a very long time https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-warns-of-rise-in-password-sprays-targeting-cloud-accounts/ see http://techrights.org/2021/09/30/azure-brute-force/ [23:46] -altlink_ad1/#techrights- Cloudflare: bleepingcomputer.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-warns-of-rise-in-password-sprays-targeting-cloud-accounts/ [23:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | Microsoft warns of rise in password sprays targeting cloud accounts [23:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Whistleblower and Clients Warned, More Than 2 Years Ago in Fact, About the Current Azure Mess (But Microsoft Ignored Those Warnings, Buried Facts) | Techrights [23:46] activelow add to this, performance is acceptable already, with some test cases, maybe -O3 switch did what it should, and gcc got -ftree-vectorizer-verbose=2 which should tell if any simd optimization is applied [23:47] *IPFS (~05024532@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [23:47] IPFS https://social.kyushojitsu.ca/@omgcloudflare/107204315677960908 [23:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-social.kyushojitsu.ca | : "#Cloudflare do you have a public IPFS gateway tha" - Kyusho Jitsu World Social Network [23:47] *IPFS has quit (Quit: https://mibbit.com Online IRC Client) [23:48] techrights-news It's hardly a new problem, unlike the hype associated with it; #phishing tactics do the same https://www.darkreading.com/threat-intelligence/new-trojan-source-method-lets-attackers-hide-vulns-in-source-code [23:48] -altlink_ad1/#techrights- Cloudflare: darkreading.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.darkreading.com/threat-intelligence/new-trojan-source-method-lets-attackers-hide-vulns-in-source-code [23:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.darkreading.com | New 'Trojan Source' Method Lets Attackers Hide Vulns in Source Code [23:49] techrights-news #EPO and #litigation #propaganda rag paints #softwarepatents as "Hey Hi" and reveals that Microsoft's #patenttroll (IV) is still attacking everybody in the world https://www.iam-media.com/iam-weekly-review-25th-30th-october-2021 [23:49] -altlink_ad1/#techrights- Cloudflare: iam-media.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.iam-media.com/iam-weekly-review-25th-30th-october-2021 [23:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.iam-media.com | Biden USPTO pick faces tough confirmation; Nokia licensings strong Q3; IV goes on auto attack; US damages surge; Secure strong AI patents at the EPO; plus much more | IAM [23:50] activelow psydruid: this one contains the neon asm hacks which can be applied to version 1.7.6 https://github.com/kuii/dfbNEON [23:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - kuii/dfbNEON: DirectFB NEON Optimization [23:50] activelow because, i patched v1.7.6 to support vt-switching and correct keyboard handling already, so i merged it into my branch here [23:51] activelow anyway, i'll not follow the neon simd idea for now, and check first what gcc -O3 does [23:51] techrights-news #AndrewYang Developing New Fourth Party After Failing To Gain Support With Third Party https://www.theonion.com/andrew-yang-developing-new-fourth-party-after-failing-t-1847957168 #theonion #satire [23:51] -altlink_ad1/#techrights- Cloudflare: theonion.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theonion.com/andrew-yang-developing-new-fourth-party-after-failing-t-1847957168 [23:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theonion.com | Andrew Yang Developing New Fourth Party After Failing To Gain Support With Third Party [23:51] activelow which is an interesting test case, because directfb src/gfx/generic.c contains many candidates for vectorization, to benefit from [23:52] psydruid autovectorisation should be preferred for sure [23:53] techrights-news #canonical working for enemies of #gnu #linux https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft-sql-server-ubuntu-pro-microsoft-azure see http://techrights.org/2021/07/09/canonical-ubuntu-microsoft/ [23:53] -altlink_ad1/#techrights- Cloudflare: windowscentral.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft-sql-server-ubuntu-pro-microsoft-azure [23:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.windowscentral.com | Microsoft and publisher of Ubuntu team up to deliver cost-effective data management on Azure | Windows Central [23:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Canonical Dooms the Ubuntu Brand to Appease Microsoft | Techrights [23:54] techrights-news Notice how #ManagingIP , a failing publisher, is now taking payments from #litigation firms in exchange for publishing their #marketing / #lobbying pieces as though these were news reports https://www.managingip.com/article/b1v66sr4lv33r3/new-referral-to-the-eboa-post-filed-experimental-evidence-and-plausibility #Maiwald in this case [23:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | New referral to the EBoA: post-filed experimental evidence and plausibility | Managing Intellectual Property [23:54] psydruid there is apparently even a 1.7.7 release [23:54] psydruid https://slackbuilds.org/repository/14.2/libraries/DirectFB/ [23:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SlackBuilds.org - DirectFB [23:57] MinceR https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/work-hard [23:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Work Hard [23:59] techrights-news As usual, #litigation companies are failing to note that these #epo boards are profoundly compromised and lack independence, even by their very own admission https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=3560b29a-9152-4306-b970-2ea53afc097c see http://techrights.org/2021/06/26/g-121-epo-catastrophe/ [23:59] -altlink_ad1/#techrights- Cloudflare: lexology.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=3560b29a-9152-4306-b970-2ea53afc097c [23:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Confirmation of referral to EPO Enlarged Board of Appeal - Lexology [23:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | G 1/21 is a Catastrophe for the EPOs Legitimacy | Techrights