●● IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Tuesday, December 01, 2020 ●● ● Dec 01 [00:03] *rianne__ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [00:03] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [00:04] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-173-112.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [00:05] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-173-112.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [00:10] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [00:27] schestowitz I made some improvements to the IRC logs [00:27] schestowitz effective today, the html version has two links in it to the txt version [00:27] schestowitz See e.g. http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-301120.html [00:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Monday, November 30, 2020 [00:27] schestowitz I hope I didn't break something [00:27] schestowitz along the way [00:28] schestowitz testing seems to show nothing awkward so far [00:28] schestowitz it's the first change to that code is nearly a decade, at substance level at least [00:36] *psymin (~psymin@fsf/member/psymin) has joined #techrights ● Dec 01 [02:29] schestowitz pleroma.site still down [02:29] schestowitz pasting diffs: [02:29] schestowitz New YouTube Videos: MX Linux 19.3, Startx, Raspberry Pi http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144925 [02:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New YouTube Videos: MX Linux 19.3, Startx, Raspberry Pi | Tux Machines [02:29] schestowitz [02:29] schestowitz Latest Linux Magazine (Partly Paywalled) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144924 [02:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Latest Linux Magazine (Partly Paywalled) | Tux Machines [02:29] schestowitz [02:29] schestowitz Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144923 [02:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [02:29] schestowitz [02:29] schestowitz #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144922 [02:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [02:29] schestowitz [02:29] schestowitz pip 20.3 release http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144921 [02:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | pip 20.3 release | Tux Machines [02:29] schestowitz [02:29] schestowitz Western Digital WD_BLACK SN850 NVMe PCIe 4.0 SSD Linux Performance http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144920 [02:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Western Digital WD_BLACK SN850 NVMe PCIe 4.0 SSD Linux Performance | Tux Machines [02:29] schestowitz [02:29] schestowitz GNU Octave 6.1 Released with Improvements / New Functions http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144919 [02:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU Octave 6.1 Released with Improvements / New Functions | Tux Machines [02:29] schestowitz [02:29] schestowitz RISC-V, the Linux of the chip world, is starting to produce technological breakthroughs http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144918 [02:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | RISC-V, the Linux of the chip world, is starting to produce technological breakthroughs | Tux Machines [02:29] schestowitz [02:29] schestowitz Cinnamon 4.8 Desktop Environment Released, This Is What's New http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144917 [02:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Cinnamon 4.8 Desktop Environment Released, This Is What's New | Tux Machines [02:29] schestowitz ● Dec 01 [03:31] gry https://www.theguardian.com/law/2020/nov/30/international-lawyers-draft-plan-to-criminalise-ecosystem-destruction [03:31] gry [ International lawyers draft plan to criminalise ecosystem destruction | International criminal justice | The Guardian ] [03:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | International lawyers draft plan to criminalise ecosystem destruction | International criminal justice | The Guardian [03:56] *mmu_man has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) ● Dec 01 [06:47] oiaohm gry: I see this is kind of two faced. When you think about the amount of ecosystem destruction that has been done in history in the EU and other places. Ok fine consider laws to make ecosystem destruction criminal but you need to include a percentage of retrospective in it. ● Dec 01 [07:21] *obarun (~obarun@host-115-126-165-174.fibre.nautile.nc) has joined #techrights [07:25] *Blukunfando has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [07:34] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights ● Dec 01 [08:17] *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: May we live long and die out | http://vhemt.org/) [08:18] *notanamber (~luca@host-79-6-210-200.business.telecomitalia.it) has joined #techrights ● Dec 01 [10:31] *kingoffrance has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [10:43] *kingoffrance (~x@2601:681:8200:b890::7cc6) has joined #techrights [10:50] *obarun has quit (Remote host closed the connection) ● Dec 01 [11:44] *mmu_man (~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net) has joined #techrights ● Dec 01 [12:28] *superkuh (~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh) has joined #techrights [12:49] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [12:51] *GNUmoon has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) ● Dec 01 [13:21] *Blukunfando (~bkf@62.57.153.77.dyn.user.ono.com) has joined #techrights [13:43] schestowitz does anyone want to help us with PDFs [13:43] schestowitz we need them redone as html [13:43] schestowitz it's not difficult, not too borning [13:44] schestowitz you get to read them while sorting out lines, slight changes [13:44] schestowitz if anyone can help, let me know, here or by email [13:44] schestowitz I can pass around the PDFs to work on [13:51] *CrystalMath (~coderain@reactos/developer/theflash) has joined #techrights ● Dec 01 [14:13] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [14:13] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/20081612 [14:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4826893) [14:15] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [14:20] schestowitz Ariadne: can you find out what's going on with pleroma.site? 1.5 days downtime [14:20] schestowitz no prior warning/notice, in case they do a migration/upgrade/something else [14:23] XRevan86 MinceR: Just from the lexicon looks like buddy-talk. [14:23] Ariadne idk can't raise href on irc [14:24] schestowitz I hope it's not a fatal thing [14:24] schestowitz after 1.5-day downtime with no warning one can become paranoid at a level of, "maybe it'll never come back" [14:24] schestowitz like groklaw 2 months ago [14:36] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [14:38] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/2008160 [14:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4826803) [14:46] XRevan86 i tishin [14:59] *psymin (~psymin@fsf/member/psymin) has joined #techrights ● Dec 01 [15:08] MinceR (cat) https://ircz.de/p/20072750 [15:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4786358) [15:09] schestowitz MinceR: real photo? [15:09] schestowitz or manipulated? [15:09] schestowitz would be funny is there's a real woman who looks like this [15:11] MinceR \_()_/ [15:11] MinceR i suspect it's real [15:16] psymin what did I miss? :D [15:18] MinceR 01 153810 <@MinceR> https://ircz.de/p/2008160 [15:28] XRevan86 https://s00.yaplakal.com/pics/pics_original/5/6/7/12197765.jpg [15:29] XRevan86 Seems like the eyes are the doctored part. [15:29] XRevan86 Also: https://psv4.userapi.com/c810528/u10091408/docs/97525ed90af7/Antonina_Lektorovna.gif [15:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://psv4.userapi.com/c810528/u10091408/docs/97525ed90af7/Antonina_Lektorovna.gif ) [15:30] MinceR https://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/09/14/22bb047329007d2d.jpg [15:31] XRevan86 MinceR: Also almost raw footage. [15:33] schestowitz XRevan86: the gif does not work [15:33] schestowitz MinceR: the second (latest) image looks fake :-) [15:33] XRevan86 schestowitz: It takes 3 seconds. [15:33] schestowitz because Putin would not raise his leg like this [15:33] schestowitz except when he pisses on "the Donald" [15:38] XRevan86 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eh4J53EWkAAJuDU?format=jpg [15:39] XRevan86 https://nitter.net/pic/https%3A%2F%2Fpbs.twimg.com%2Fmedia%2FEh4hiFLXkAIM8xH%3Fformat%3Djpg [15:39] XRevan86 * https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eh4hiFLXkAIM8xH?format=jpg [15:42] schestowitz ha [15:43] XRevan86 https://dw.com/en/a-54920100 same meeting [15:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Putin pledges a $1.5 billion loan while meeting Lukashenko in Sochi | News | DW | 14.09.2020 [15:55] MinceR https://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/09/14/cd035af888e5370b.png ● Dec 01 [16:05] *notanamber has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [16:40] MinceR https://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/09/13/8a66a0505517bd07.jpg ● Dec 01 [17:01] MinceR (cat) https://ircz.de/p/20072728 [17:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4785467) [17:30] MinceR https://full.pr0gramm.com/2020/09/13/80b9c71bdc3edc05.jpg ● Dec 01 [20:24] smnthermes https://antranigv.am/weblog_en/posts/macos_to_freebsd/ [20:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-antranigv.am | macOS to FreeBSD migration a.k.a why I left macOS [20:29] schestowitz Torvalds [20:29] schestowitz In other words, the only way to do good, efficient, and system-level and [20:29] schestowitz portable C++ ends up to limit yourself to all the things that are [20:29] schestowitz basically available in C. And limiting your project to C means that people [20:29] schestowitz don't screw that up, and also means that you get a lot of programmers that [20:29] schestowitz do actually understand low-level issues and don't screw things up with any [20:29] schestowitz idiotic "object model" crap. [20:29] schestowitz So I'm sorry, but for something like git, where efficiency was a primary [20:29] schestowitz objective, the "advantages" of C++ is just a huge mistake. The fact that [20:29] schestowitz we also piss off people who cannot see that is just a big additional [20:29] schestowitz advantage. [20:29] schestowitz If you want a VCS that is written in C++, go play with Monotone. Really. [20:29] schestowitz They use a "real database". They use "nice object-oriented libraries". [20:29] schestowitz They use "nice C++ abstractions". And quite frankly, as a result of all [20:29] schestowitz these design decisions that sound so appealing to some CS people, the end [20:29] schestowitz result is a horrible and unmaintainable mess. [20:32] *obarun (~obarun@host-115-126-165-174.fibre.nautile.nc) has joined #techrights [20:43] *davisr__ (davisr@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/davisr) has joined #techrights [20:45] *davisr_ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [20:51] *davisr__ is now known as davisr ● Dec 01 [22:14] schestowitz Ariadne: pleroma.site will soon be down for 2 whole days. No explanation as to why (I've asked around), I'm disconnected completely from #fediverse as a result. #socialcontrolmedia = crap. [22:14] Ariadne would you like me to deploy an instance on your own server? [22:15] schestowitz that would be cool, but then I'd lose all contacts etc. [22:15] schestowitz I never saw a real solution to migrations in such networks [22:15] schestowitz it's like rebooting one's account any time there's a major incident [22:16] Ariadne there is the Move activity now, but seems not useful here since pleroma.site is down and cannot endorse the activity [22:16] schestowitz Is "Move" like a signal they send? [22:16] Ariadne yes [22:16] Ariadne pleroma.fr is also down [22:17] Ariadne as is fediverse.network [22:17] schestowitz oh wow [22:17] schestowitz 2 days [22:17] schestowitz no prior notice, either [22:17] Ariadne i wonder if the pleroma foundation fired href [22:17] Ariadne or whatever [22:17] Ariadne they are calling themselves now [22:18] schestowitz is this the person you loathed? 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