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| Ariadne | anyway if you've actually noticed what black people say, they are pretty much seeing this all as performative and pointless | Jul 02 00:00 |
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| schestowitz | Ariadne: I never used at API itself | Jul 02 00:00 |
| schestowitz | I assume dialog uses it | Jul 02 00:00 |
| Ariadne | and would like us to go back to talking about how cops are killing them 2.85x more in the US per capita. | Jul 02 00:01 |
| schestowitz | Ariadne: it's like feminism that makes feminists look bad | Jul 02 00:01 |
| schestowitz | or trans who fake PMS | Jul 02 00:01 |
| schestowitz | it's helping nobody | Jul 02 00:01 |
| schestowitz | it makes a caricature of groups | Jul 02 00:01 |
| AVRS | It seems to be one and the same gang though. | Jul 02 00:01 |
| Ariadne | that group is best off ignored | Jul 02 00:01 |
| Ariadne | it's all to score woke points on the social network of their choice | Jul 02 00:02 |
| AVRS | They also took rationalwiki over, unless it's the same ppl. | Jul 02 00:02 |
| Ariadne | they probably don't even believe half of what they are saying | Jul 02 00:02 |
| schestowitz | reminds me of radical religions | Jul 02 00:02 |
| Ariadne | well, I refuse to work with ESR and other racists | Jul 02 00:02 |
| Ariadne | and transphobes | Jul 02 00:03 |
| schestowitz | ESR is a class of his own | Jul 02 00:03 |
| Ariadne | they can use my software but I see no obligation to accept patches from them | Jul 02 00:03 |
| schestowitz | he's more right than MAGA base | Jul 02 00:03 |
| Ariadne | I encourage other maintainers to do the same. | Jul 02 00:03 |
| AVRS | (I remember rationalwiki as what Eliezer Yudkowsky of LessWrong was linking to and from, when writing against Creationism and fallacies. Now it's the same as en.wikipedia.org) | Jul 02 00:03 |
| Ariadne | ESR is allowed his speech, but my rejection of his patches due to his speech is also a form of speech. | Jul 02 00:04 |
| schestowitz | does he not just focus on compilers now? | Jul 02 00:05 |
| Ariadne | free speech does not mean freedom from consequence | Jul 02 00:05 |
| Ariadne | I am just using him as example. | Jul 02 00:05 |
| AVRS | Ariadne: But the SJWs will call you racist or transphobe anyway, even if they'll need to create a special kind of racism or transphobia for that. | Jul 02 00:05 |
| schestowitz | rightphobia :-) | Jul 02 00:06 |
| Ariadne | I don't care what the SJWs say. I care about what my own heart says. | Jul 02 00:06 |
| schestowitz | intolerance of the intolerant | Jul 02 00:06 |
| XRevan86 | > anyway if you've actually noticed what black people say, they are pretty much seeing this all as performative and pointless | Jul 02 00:06 |
| XRevan86 | Ariadne: They don't speak for all black people!!!11 | Jul 02 00:06 |
| schestowitz | rightphobiaphobia* | Jul 02 00:06 |
| Ariadne | caring about "SJWs" and internet boogiemen is what gives them power. | Jul 02 00:06 |
| *XRevan86 saw that overused so many times. | Jul 02 00:07 | |
| schestowitz | this reminds me of Jews who try to defend crap that the ultraorthodox do | Jul 02 00:07 |
| Ariadne | XRevan86 really it's the whites patting themselves on the back for those actions | Jul 02 00:07 |
| Ariadne | like cancelling live PD for example | Jul 02 00:07 |
| schestowitz | like paying some "goys" to switch off and on lights for them... because "they're going to hell anyway" | Jul 02 00:07 |
| XRevan86 | Ariadne: live police departments? | Jul 02 00:07 |
| Ariadne | all they did was wreck my Friday night drinking game | Jul 02 00:07 |
| Ariadne | yeah it was a show | Jul 02 00:07 |
| Ariadne | like cops but live | Jul 02 00:07 |
| XRevan86 | Ariadne: What do you mean? | Jul 02 00:08 |
| schestowitz | the police TV shows are just copaganda anyway | Jul 02 00:08 |
| Ariadne | "Live PD" was an American TV show that was like "cops" (another TV show) but live | Jul 02 00:08 |
| schestowitz | they always catch the bad guy, never the good guy, and they are never empty-handed | Jul 02 00:09 |
| Ariadne | schestowitz: yes but taking a shot per civil rights violation made for a good cadence | Jul 02 00:09 |
| MinceR | lol | Jul 02 00:09 |
| schestowitz | overplaid footaga and voiceover like, "you can't run..." (never mind framings, successful escapes etc.) | Jul 02 00:09 |
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| Ariadne | actually there were a few successful escapes on "live PD" over the years | Jul 02 00:10 |
| schestowitz | the American shows of cops I watches never showed these | Jul 02 00:10 |
| XRevan86 | Ariadne: When even satire is no longer safe, this is a lot more expected. | Jul 02 00:10 |
| schestowitz | maybe they realised that like WWF (WCW) they need to add some real-looking elements | Jul 02 00:10 |
| schestowitz | for perceived legitimacy of the "shows"... partly scripted too | Jul 02 00:10 |
| Ariadne | well satire is unsafe since Trump became president | Jul 02 00:10 |
| Ariadne | because he outperforms the satirists | Jul 02 00:11 |
| XRevan86 | Ariadne: Also that's pretty ironic. | Jul 02 00:11 |
| XRevan86 | Ariadne: As live coverage at least slightly increases transparency of law enforcement | Jul 02 00:11 |
| schestowitz | depends who they pick | Jul 02 00:11 |
| Ariadne | nah they have fucked up | Jul 02 00:11 |
| schestowitz | they won't show you ex-military 'cops' | Jul 02 00:11 |
| Ariadne | and picked bad cops | Jul 02 00:11 |
| Ariadne | before | Jul 02 00:12 |
| schestowitz | in some place like arkansas | Jul 02 00:12 |
| Ariadne | oh they have | Jul 02 00:12 |
| XRevan86 | Ariadne: Isn't that great though? | Jul 02 00:12 |
| Ariadne | there was this one ex-military bro cop on there in indiana | Jul 02 00:12 |
| Ariadne | he used to go around | Jul 02 00:12 |
| XRevan86 | showing the truth, even unintentionally | Jul 02 00:12 |
| Ariadne | picking fights with people | Jul 02 00:12 |
| Ariadne | on TV | Jul 02 00:12 |
| schestowitz | https://boingboing.net/2020/06/25/north-carolina-cop-we-are-j.html | Jul 02 00:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boingboing.net | North Carolina cop: "We are just going to go out and start slaughtering them f------ n------" / Boing Boing | Jul 02 00:12 | |
| XRevan86 | I'd love to have a show like that in Russia. | Jul 02 00:13 |
| Ariadne | anyway point is | Jul 02 00:13 |
| Ariadne | you can choose to not accept patches from assholes | Jul 02 00:13 |
| Ariadne | that is free speech too :) | Jul 02 00:13 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: no need for show, it's in the news :-) | Jul 02 00:13 |
| schestowitz | police brutality | Jul 02 00:13 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Not on Russian TV. | Jul 02 00:13 |
| schestowitz | pussy riot even got pussy-whipped, literally, in sacho | Jul 02 00:13 |
| XRevan86 | TV != Internet | Jul 02 00:13 |
| schestowitz | wait, russia has tv?!\ | Jul 02 00:14 |
| schestowitz | what else have these marvelous people got!!! | Jul 02 00:14 |
| XRevan86 | Internet is full of Russian police brutality and overwhelming evidence and 100% proof. | Jul 02 00:14 |
| XRevan86 | So to have live coverage of police officers on TV would be an extraordinary move %) | Jul 02 00:14 |
| schestowitz | who would permit it? | Jul 02 00:15 |
| schestowitz | https://meduza.io/en/feature/2020/06/30/only-together | Jul 02 00:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE | Jul 02 00:15 | |
| schestowitz | similar to "lonely together" | Jul 02 00:15 |
| schestowitz | about social control media | Jul 02 00:15 |
| schestowitz | what a stupid slogan this is | Jul 02 00:16 |
| schestowitz | or motto | Jul 02 00:16 |
| schestowitz | shallow and stupid | Jul 02 00:16 |
| XRevan86 | - So, here we see our officer in action, he's scrolling through social networks looking for artists who draw vagina-looking art to solve more crimes and get a raise. | Jul 02 00:16 |
| XRevan86 | "who would permit it?" – exactly, no one. | Jul 02 00:16 |
| schestowitz | nothing for the powerful chums to gain | Jul 02 00:16 |
| schestowitz | the police does their bidding | Jul 02 00:16 |
| schestowitz | I didn't hear much about Russian police cracking down on organised crime | Jul 02 00:17 |
| schestowitz | (not here, either) | Jul 02 00:17 |
| schestowitz | they go after 'plebs' | Jul 02 00:17 |
| XRevan86 | Hence why I look at this move as pro-police brutality. | Jul 02 00:17 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Of course not, they're not risking their butts. | Jul 02 00:17 |
| schestowitz | like some cranks and people who believe in ghosts and stuf | Jul 02 00:17 |
| XRevan86 | and those who do get jailtime themselves | Jul 02 00:18 |
| schestowitz | it's safe for their career | Jul 02 00:18 |
| schestowitz | not dealing with real crime; a lot of today's media is the same sadly | Jul 02 00:18 |
| XRevan86 | Because they're not on top of the food chain. | Jul 02 00:18 |
| schestowitz | the best they can do is mock "trump" or "bojo" | Jul 02 00:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <MinceR "lol"> CNN going "Owww. They're shooting at us!". | Jul 02 00:18 |
| schestowitz | without really delving into the institutional corruption in NHS, EU, EPO... | Jul 02 00:18 |
| schestowitz | NHS phoned me today | Jul 02 00:18 |
| schestowitz | private firm | Jul 02 00:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm like, "Duh doy. You puffed him up in 2016 to get ratings. How's it feel?". | Jul 02 00:19 |
| schestowitz | 4 MONTHS after a referral | Jul 02 00:19 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: At least they're allowed to mock the leader… | Jul 02 00:19 |
| schestowitz | for now | Jul 02 00:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, at this rate, if things don't calm down, we'll be looking at like 300,000 dead old people by the election anyway. | Jul 02 00:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Those were the people that liked him. | Jul 02 00:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So have fun with that, I guess. | Jul 02 00:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | What a fucking idiot. | Jul 02 00:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's gotten terrible in several states where his margin of victory was a rounding error last time. | Jul 02 00:21 |
| XRevan86 | Losers. Russia won against COVID-19. | Jul 02 00:21 |
| schestowitz | da da | Jul 02 00:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's what they say anyway. | Jul 02 00:21 |
| XRevan86 | It did nothing effective though. I guess SARS-CoV-2 just surrendered. | Jul 02 00:22 |
| schestowitz | 200+ deaths today in Russia | Jul 02 00:22 |
| schestowitz | and still about 6000 new cases iirc | Jul 02 00:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It saw Putin riding a horse with no shirt and it went and killed us instead. Left Russia completely alone! | Jul 02 00:22 |
| schestowitz | Just checked... 216 | Jul 02 00:22 |
| XRevan86 | It saw the willpower of Putin and decided that this beautiful nation does not deserve the illness. | Jul 02 00:22 |
| schestowitz | today will be another new record for us covid cases | Jul 02 00:23 |
| schestowitz | 47,3 days ago | Jul 02 00:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Also, there's a minor fire at Chernobyl. Should be taken care of very soon. | Jul 02 00:23 |
| schestowitz | so just over a thousand short with an hour to go | Jul 02 00:23 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: and diesel spill | Jul 02 00:23 |
| schestowitz | no longer in the headline even | Jul 02 00:23 |
| schestowitz | and turns out they had pumped things underground, too | Jul 02 00:23 |
| schestowitz | russia historically cemented nuclear disaster zones of its own making... after stupid experiments | Jul 02 00:24 |
| schestowitz | us is at least testing on islands with poor naked people | Jul 02 00:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | 47,503. A new peak. | Jul 02 00:24 |
| schestowitz | or some deserts | Jul 02 00:24 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: congrats | Jul 02 00:24 |
| schestowitz | happy birthday | Jul 02 00:24 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: And of course Putin didn't mention the amendment that is there specifically to reset him. | Jul 02 00:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Wubalubadubdub! | Jul 02 00:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Eh, most of the "victims" are a bunch of walking shitstains who gave us Trump. | Jul 02 00:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They go out with no mask on and "Get the hoax!" and then how did that happen. | Jul 02 00:26 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: 77% by the way. Is the number they've drawn. | Jul 02 00:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm wearing three masks. | Jul 02 00:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | THREE! | Jul 02 00:26 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | A surgical. A KN95 with a strap over that, and another surgical over that. | Jul 02 00:26 |
| XRevan86 | I thought they'll make something closer to 74% | Jul 02 00:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It is fairly hard to breathe when I am inside somewhere. | Jul 02 00:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But for 20-30 minutes it's tolerable. | Jul 02 00:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, I know I haven't had it. | Jul 02 00:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So there's that. | Jul 02 00:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Take cover for maybe several more months and the fucking retards will have infected each other and things settle down a bit. | Jul 02 00:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It is hard to look at ~50,000 confirmed cases per day and come up with some sort of an idea that you don't need any precautions unless you're a fucking idiot. | Jul 02 00:29 |
| XRevan86 | July 1st 2020 is a historical day in Russia. | Jul 02 00:29 |
| XRevan86 | The corpse of democracy has been taken out of the house. | Jul 02 00:30 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Does it have something to do with when many of your neighbors grew a pair and insisted you leave? | Jul 02 00:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | +48,668 | Jul 02 00:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Even peakier! | Jul 02 00:33 |
| XRevan86 | Hah, Navalny thought the results would be 72±3% | Jul 02 00:34 |
| XRevan86 | also underestimated the Willpower of Putin! | Jul 02 00:34 |
| MinceR | should have said 100±100% | Jul 02 00:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | +49,189 | Jul 02 00:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, we're one update away from +50,000 now. | Jul 02 00:39 |
| XRevan86 | ±49%? | Jul 02 00:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | We're going to end up with another month worse than April if this does not stop. | Jul 02 00:39 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Could see 3,000+ dead daily. | Jul 02 00:40 |
| schestowitz | Trump got USians banned from the EU | Jul 02 00:40 |
| schestowitz | even with nominal quarantine | Jul 02 00:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I noticed. | Jul 02 00:40 |
| schestowitz | remember how he 'banned' the EU | Jul 02 00:40 |
| schestowitz | to save face | Jul 02 00:40 |
| schestowitz | as if the US was somehow a safe haven | Jul 02 00:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, I do. | Jul 02 00:40 |
| schestowitz | then mask-shaming | Jul 02 00:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This Remdesivir crap doesn't even work. | Jul 02 00:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They've faked the clinical trials to get the government to pay absurd prices for it. | Jul 02 00:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I was talking to a doctor about PrEP at one point. | Jul 02 00:43 |
| schestowitz | Texas now has more new cases than Florida and US has more new cases overall than ever (as if the second wave is supposed to be bigger?!). 50k+ | Jul 02 00:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I said, "Well, I still use condoms. Statistically, the medication works, but if I happen to be one of the unlucky people where it didn't for some reason, you go to bed, sleep just fine, and whooops there went another statistic." | Jul 02 00:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | +49,246 | Jul 02 00:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | 57 more, but who's even counting now? MAGA! | Jul 02 00:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | +49,276 | Jul 02 00:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | 30 more | Jul 02 00:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Wow... | Jul 02 00:46 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | +49,752 | Jul 02 00:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, today's the day. | Jul 02 00:49 |
| schestowitz | next stop 100,000 | Jul 02 00:49 |
| schestowitz | in the US some profit a lot from this | Jul 02 00:50 |
| schestowitz | diagnosis/detecti | Jul 02 00:50 |
| schestowitz | then treatment | Jul 02 00:50 |
| schestowitz | now we'll see the circus/freakshow that's private, for-profit health[sic]care[sic] | Jul 02 00:50 |
| schestowitz | COVID Heist(TM), coming soon to cinemas across your state | Jul 02 00:50 |
| schestowitz | (bring masks) | Jul 02 00:50 |
| MinceR | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EbtFg1lXYAA4h3-?format=jpg&name=orig | Jul 02 00:52 |
| schestowitz | it's not a asshole | Jul 02 00:58 |
| schestowitz | it's the mouth | Jul 02 00:58 |
| schestowitz | and it moves | Jul 02 00:58 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | +50,275 | Jul 02 01:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, at least Reddit kicked out the donald and left the porn. | Jul 02 01:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They're smarter than Tumblr, I guess. | Jul 02 01:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Porn and anime are like the third rail. If they touch either of those, then they're finished. | Jul 02 01:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Speaking of the third rail, I remember moving to Chicago and hearing "Don't leave the platform. The third rail is electrified and can kill you.". | Jul 02 01:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Immediately and without thinking, I sang "Don't whiz on....the electric fence!" from Ren and Stimpy, and everyone around me starts laughing. | Jul 02 01:16 |
| schestowitz | quarter million in California | Jul 02 01:21 |
| schestowitz | +50,306 | Jul 02 01:30 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: 1,484,258 active cases | Jul 02 06:18 |
| schestowitz | need many hospital beds | Jul 02 06:19 |
| schestowitz | By comparison, only 7,445 active cases in Germany | Jul 02 06:19 |
| schestowitz | In notorious Italy 15,255 | Jul 02 06:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Should be looking really ugly here by the end of the day Friday. | Jul 02 06:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Florida and Arizona were almost out of hospital beds today. | Jul 02 06:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They won't be laughing much longer. | Jul 02 06:23 |
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| schestowitz | zoobab: I see you got guest comments in twitter | Jul 02 12:40 |
| schestowitz | the lawyers and the... well, I wonder where he works or worked | Jul 02 12:40 |
| schestowitz | didn't like the message, changes subject to SSL certs. LOL nice excuse/deflectiob | Jul 02 12:40 |
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| AVRS | This 32×32 image database https://archive.org/details/80-million-tiny-images-1-of-2 was deleted by MIT from its original place because of pol-incorrect tags. | Jul 02 13:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-archive.org | 80 Million Tiny Images : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive | Jul 02 13:34 | |
| AVRS | The tags were generated automatically using WordNet. | Jul 02 13:36 |
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| schestowitz | AVRS: I read about that | Jul 02 14:02 |
| schestowitz | AVRS: what are the net impacts of removal? | Jul 02 14:02 |
| schestowitz | I mean, how many of the research projects are malicious and how many benign? | Jul 02 14:03 |
| schestowitz | "You will need around 400Gb of free disk space to store all the files. " | Jul 02 14:03 |
| schestowitz | most hard drives you buy for about 100 (US$) would do that 10 times over | Jul 02 14:04 |
| schestowitz | but serving it over the Web is another thing | Jul 02 14:04 |
| AVRS | I don't know how many projects are malicious or benign. I guess most malicious projects do not really need a freely-licensed database though, although it makes it easier and cheaper. | Jul 02 14:20 |
| AVRS | small-scale good and bad ones, of course, need one | Jul 02 14:21 |
| schestowitz | I saw that mentioned hours ago | Jul 02 14:30 |
| schestowitz | But I do not remember where I saw it | Jul 02 14:30 |
| schestowitz | maybe someone sent it to me | Jul 02 14:30 |
| schestowitz | scientific endeavour requires these images | Jul 02 14:31 |
| schestowitz | they can be used for good and for bad | Jul 02 14:31 |
| schestowitz | but unless we presume science itself is inherently bad, this censorious behaviour is harmful to mankind (can I use that word still), not only to science | Jul 02 14:31 |
| schestowitz | I don't know this dataset | Jul 02 14:31 |
| schestowitz | but it would be good for training models | Jul 02 14:31 |
| schestowitz | and for signatures | Jul 02 14:31 |
| schestowitz | so you'd imagine many classifiers are based on it | Jul 02 14:32 |
| schestowitz | e.g. SELECT * where contents contains "CARS" and train JOIN... | Jul 02 14:32 |
| schestowitz | not SQL | Jul 02 14:32 |
| schestowitz | just some pseudo thing, a prototype | Jul 02 14:33 |
| schestowitz | the vast number of photos can help | Jul 02 14:33 |
| schestowitz | I use to get vast datasets, which were hard to find back then, to train neural networks on | Jul 02 14:33 |
| schestowitz | I didn't know about this MIT database | Jul 02 14:33 |
| schestowitz | apparently it's now racist to just describe the content of some photograph | Jul 02 14:33 |
| schestowitz | even if the 'racism' comes from an algorithm, let alone a human classifer/tagger | Jul 02 14:34 |
| schestowitz | so well done, everybody! You ruin everything | Jul 02 14:34 |
| schestowitz | and you help nobody | Jul 02 14:34 |
| schestowitz | the database being offline would not reduce racism | Jul 02 14:34 |
| schestowitz | as many people who use that dataset to conduct research probably aren't so racist to begin with | Jul 02 14:34 |
| schestowitz | the people who do manual labour tend to be a lot more clannish and racist | Jul 02 14:35 |
| schestowitz | maybe start there... | Jul 02 14:35 |
| schestowitz | (nm if the 'racist' tags could in principle be used to pin-point and TACKLE racism) | Jul 02 14:38 |
| oiaohm | Really taking the database off line was the fastest way to draw attention that it there. A update removing the tags and seeing who complains would have been more effective to root out who was using the racist bits. | Jul 02 14:46 |
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| AVRS | MIT cited this, which also lists use for malicious face/race/whatever recognition and neural networks regenerating the original image https://arxiv.org/pdf/2006.16923.pdf But the concerns are mostly about race, apparently. | Jul 02 14:49 |
| schestowitz | MIT is a bunch of liars | Jul 02 14:49 |
| AVRS | Of course. Even xkcd now links to BLM. If you are anyone significant and don't, you are in trouble. | Jul 02 14:49 |
| schestowitz | e.g. http://techrights.org/2020/01/10/gates-sponsored-mit/ | Jul 02 14:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Massachusetts Institute of Tall Tales (MIT) Covers Up Bill Gates Bribery of MIT Through a High-Profile Pedophile, Citing No Evidence Other Than Representatives of Gates Himself | Techrights | Jul 02 14:49 | |
| schestowitz | AVRS: front page and all pages in django | Jul 02 14:50 |
| schestowitz | I saw that yesterday | Jul 02 14:50 |
| schestowitz | I really could not see how police brutality and development frameworks are connected | Jul 02 14:50 |
| schestowitz | maybe I can add cooking recipes to techrights | Jul 02 14:50 |
| AVRS | schestowitz: be careful the food not to be black | Jul 02 14:50 |
| schestowitz | black puddling is offensive | Jul 02 14:51 |
| schestowitz | we need to change the ingredients to whiten it | Jul 02 14:51 |
| schestowitz | as pig's blood when condensed gets dark | Jul 02 14:51 |
| schestowitz | maybe call it "Blood pudding" instead | Jul 02 14:52 |
| schestowitz | to associate black with blood | Jul 02 14:52 |
| schestowitz | nothing offensive about that.. | Jul 02 14:52 |
| schestowitz | I really don't see where that ends | Jul 02 14:52 |
| schestowitz | or where it ends well | Jul 02 14:52 |
| schestowitz | it'll just piss off many people | Jul 02 14:52 |
| schestowitz | like the "pronoun police" alienates a lot of the left | Jul 02 14:52 |
| schestowitz | who want nothing to do with this... | Jul 02 14:53 |
| schestowitz | antiwar? ok... | Jul 02 14:53 |
| schestowitz | but not all that other stuff, which is a lower priority imho | Jul 02 14:53 |
| schestowitz | heck, kpop is in trouble | Jul 02 14:54 |
| schestowitz | blackpink aren't black | Jul 02 14:54 |
| schestowitz | they might need to rename | Jul 02 14:54 |
| schestowitz | unlike blackstreet, the r&b group... one of my all-time favourites BTW! I still listen to them | Jul 02 14:54 |
| schestowitz | r&b/gospel/rap crossover | Jul 02 14:54 |
| XRevan86 | Are blackpink pink? | Jul 02 14:54 |
| schestowitz | no | Jul 02 14:55 |
| schestowitz | they are straight | Jul 02 14:55 |
| schestowitz | afaik | Jul 02 14:55 |
| schestowitz | their style if sort of US urban | Jul 02 14:55 |
| schestowitz | they're like a bit of pop, part "street" | Jul 02 14:55 |
| schestowitz | I don't like their tracks BTW | Jul 02 14:55 |
| schestowitz | only a little, I think they're overrated, but they're some of the few who manage to get a foothold outside CJK and southeast asia | Jul 02 14:56 |
| schestowitz | lovelyz from seoul is quite good | Jul 02 14:56 |
| Narrator | simulacrum time ... | Jul 02 14:56 |
| schestowitz | their stupio has other good productions/groups | Jul 02 14:56 |
| Narrator | we talk about ethics eradicating words and not about killing people with drones ... | Jul 02 14:58 |
| Narrator | Boudrilard was genius:) | Jul 02 14:59 |
| cybrNaut | DDG's app sends every URL you visit to DDG's servers => https://github.com/duckduckgo/Android/issues/527 Ouch! | Jul 02 15:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Domains visited get leaked to DDG servers · Issue #527 · duckduckgo/Android · GitHub | Jul 02 15:00 | |
| schestowitz | good find | Jul 02 15:03 |
| XRevan86 | > because it can be complicated to locate a favicon for a website | Jul 02 15:03 |
| schestowitz | I lost count of how many times we caught them in a scandal | Jul 02 15:03 |
| *XRevan86 looks at https://stackoverflow.com/a/5346347 | Jul 02 15:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stackoverflow.com | Display the Android WebView's favicon - Stack Overflow | Jul 02 15:03 | |
| schestowitz | we should have put it all in some wiki pages rather than sparsely scattered | Jul 02 15:03 |
| AVRS | " to retrieve a website's favicon so that it can be displayed in certain places within the app or on the results page." | Jul 02 15:04 |
| cybrNaut | a lot of it is collected here: https://dev.lemmy.ml/post/31321 | Jul 02 15:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dev.lemmy.ml | NO TITLE | Jul 02 15:06 | |
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| schestowitz | cybrNaut: thanks, I never saw that page before | Jul 02 15:16 |
| schestowitz | I recognise some of these points, we even covered several in techrights | Jul 02 15:16 |
| schestowitz | but this one goes beyond what I was aware of | Jul 02 15:16 |
| schestowitz | like Gab's professional background | Jul 02 15:16 |
| schestowitz | Gabriel's | Jul 02 15:17 |
| schestowitz | not Gab the site | Jul 02 15:17 |
| cybrNaut | DDG has mastered creating a loyal following through propaganda with their spreadprivacy.com site, so it really takes a mountain of evidence to get the blind followers to come to their senses. | Jul 02 15:29 |
| schestowitz | thinkprivacy is another | Jul 02 15:31 |
| schestowitz | run by a person connected to frontpage | Jul 02 15:31 |
| schestowitz | startpage | Jul 02 15:31 |
| schestowitz | not frontpage | Jul 02 15:31 |
| schestowitz | frontpage is MSFT and unsavory neoconic site | Jul 02 15:31 |
| schestowitz | he also infiltrated privacytools | Jul 02 15:31 |
| schestowitz | which undoes the startpage ban | Jul 02 15:32 |
| schestowitz | for no good reason | Jul 02 15:32 |
| schestowitz | and it worries me as I use their searx instance right now, it's the only one I can find that's fast and comprehensive | Jul 02 15:32 |
| cybrNaut | right, i recall that guy. He's always on the wrong side of privacy in the privacytools bug reports yet poses as the opposite | Jul 02 15:32 |
| schestowitz | For startpage I did index the articles http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Startpage | Jul 02 15:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Startpage - Techrights | Jul 02 15:32 | |
| schestowitz | learning my lessons from the failure to properly catalogue ddg problems | Jul 02 15:33 |
| schestowitz | cybrNaut: dan | Jul 02 15:33 |
| schestowitz | arel | Jul 02 15:33 |
| cybrNaut | yup | Jul 02 15:33 |
| schestowitz | he's confronting me | Jul 02 15:33 |
| schestowitz | though I never spoke to him | Jul 02 15:33 |
| schestowitz | he wrote for red hat's open source dot com a few times | Jul 02 15:33 |
| schestowitz | he's a fedora fan | Jul 02 15:33 |
| cybrNaut | figures | Jul 02 15:33 |
| schestowitz | but that doesn't say anything about privacy | Jul 02 15:33 |
| schestowitz | using ibm/red hat doesn't mean privacy | Jul 02 15:34 |
| schestowitz | they're close to the nsa too, themselves | Jul 02 15:34 |
| schestowitz | unlike debian | Jul 02 15:34 |
| schestowitz | (afaik) | Jul 02 15:34 |
| cybrNaut | this is the best searx instance b/c it filters out CloudFlare sites, and it's a meta search of many other searx instances => https://ss.wodferndripvpe6ib4uz4rtngrnzichnirgn7t5x64gxcyroopbhsuqd.onion | Jul 02 15:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Encountered end of file ( status 0 @ https://ss.wodferndripvpe6ib4uz4rtngrnzichnirgn7t5x64gxcyroopbhsuqd.onion ) | Jul 02 15:34 | |
| schestowitz | ah, well.. i don't do onion | Jul 02 15:34 |
| cybrNaut | their clearnet site is up and down.. and down atm | Jul 02 15:35 |
| schestowitz | anyway, privacytools discredits itself | Jul 02 15:35 |
| cybrNaut | it used to be searxes.eu.org | Jul 02 15:35 |
| schestowitz | even some insiders there aren't happy with the direction is has gone | Jul 02 15:35 |
| cybrNaut | yes, privacytools is a disaster | Jul 02 15:35 |
| schestowitz | thinkprivacy seems right | Jul 02 15:35 |
| schestowitz | you think | Jul 02 15:35 |
| schestowitz | thinking doesn't make it so | Jul 02 15:35 |
| schestowitz | think, believe | Jul 02 15:35 |
| schestowitz | we need more people calling him out on it | Jul 02 15:36 |
| cybrNaut | dirt on PTIO and Thinkprivacy here: https://dev.lemmy.ml/post/31487 | Jul 02 15:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dev.lemmy.ml | NO TITLE | Jul 02 15:36 | |
| schestowitz | he even admitted startpage, i.e. system1, made offers to him | Jul 02 15:36 |
| *Narrator think that there is no possible to get privacy and internet, those words are oxymoron ;-) | Jul 02 15:37 | |
| cybrNaut | right, i know he got called out on that. What's particularly interesting is that he loudly condemns Wire for the same thing Startpage is guilty of: being owned by a US ad company | Jul 02 15:37 |
| schestowitz | lol | Jul 02 15:37 |
| schestowitz | stallman there | Jul 02 15:37 |
| cybrNaut | someone should make Dan Aral explain how he can condemn Wire and pimp Startpage at the same time | Jul 02 15:41 |
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| schestowitz | check his name of job title/description | Jul 02 15:48 |
| schestowitz | some wbers told me things about him | Jul 02 15:48 |
| schestowitz | where he's based and what he does | Jul 02 15:48 |
| schestowitz | pay the "consultant" | Jul 02 15:48 |
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| schestowitz | with his tentacles in some orgs | Jul 02 15:48 |
| schestowitz | https://dev.lemmy.ml/post/31321 | Jul 02 15:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dev.lemmy.ml | NO TITLE | Jul 02 15:55 | |
| schestowitz | "deleted by creator" | Jul 02 15:55 |
| schestowitz | I assume that means deleting oneself | Jul 02 15:55 |
| cybrNaut | right, developred apparently deleted his own post | Jul 02 15:58 |
| cybrNaut | he tends to be a DDG sympathizer, so he probably tried to react to defend DDG but it's likely futile | Jul 02 15:59 |
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| schestowitz | cybrNaut: do you know that site's admin? It does not bear a copyright licence... none specified | Jul 02 16:02 |
| schestowitz | I wanted to reproduce with credit/link the original | Jul 02 16:02 |
| schestowitz | it's a good list they've made | Jul 02 16:03 |
| AVRS | schestowitz: https://academictorrents.com/details/03b779ffefa8efc30c2153f3330bb495bdc3e034/tech | Jul 02 16:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-academictorrents.com | Tiny Images Dataset - Technical - Academic Torrents | Jul 02 16:03 | |
| cybrNaut | lemmy is a new project.. a decentralized reddit. I think either Neutomic or Dessalines own it. probably Neutomic | Jul 02 16:03 |
| schestowitz | is it ok to reproduce? | Jul 02 16:04 |
| schestowitz | no licence specified, anonymous community post it seems | Jul 02 16:04 |
| cybrNaut | https://dev.lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support | Jul 02 16:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dev.lemmy.ml | NO TITLE | Jul 02 16:04 | |
| cybrNaut | i don't imagine there's a problem. The admins are leftist and declared the site an Antifa site | Jul 02 16:05 |
| AVRS | schestowitz: probably the same files (names are same). I don't know about the images though, since one of the complaints was about possibly offensive images and the example confirmed. | Jul 02 16:05 |
| AVRS | oh, you are talking about lemmy.ml | Jul 02 16:05 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Jul 02 16:07 |
| cybrNaut | https://dev.lemmy.ml/post/35396 | Jul 02 16:07 |
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| schestowitz | cybrNaut: so they self-declared "terrorists" by the Orange Nazi's standards :-) | Jul 02 16:07 |
| cybrNaut | yup | Jul 02 16:07 |
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| schestowitz__ | [16:13] <schestowitz__> [16:10] <schestowitz> well played | Jul 02 16:13 |
| schestowitz__ | [16:13] <schestowitz__> [16:10] <schestowitz> when trump won the election | Jul 02 16:13 |
| schestowitz__ | well, 'won'.. 3 million voters fewer... I changed my profile image to say "antifascist"... and have not changed that since | Jul 02 16:13 |
| schestowitz__ | No idea why I dropped out of freenode here | Jul 02 16:13 |
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| schestowitz__ | seems to be a non-netsplit freenode problem | Jul 02 16:16 |
| XRevan86 | weird | Jul 02 16:17 |
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| schestowitz | XRevan86: https://meduza.io/en/news/2020/07/01/four-arrested-during-rally-opposing-constitutional-amendments-in-st-petersburg | Jul 02 17:06 |
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| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Not really that big of rallies. A lot of oppressive actions against those who state their disgust publicly however. | Jul 02 17:08 |
| schestowitz | meduza wrote a lot about it yesterday | Jul 02 17:09 |
| XRevan86 | No one cares at all that pickets are perfectly legal, police always detains. | Jul 02 17:09 |
| schestowitz | at least half a a dozen articles/photo bundles | Jul 02 17:09 |
| schestowitz | I will add that to Daily Links, later... | Jul 02 17:09 |
| schestowitz | Maybe Trump is next | Jul 02 17:09 |
| schestowitz | he praised CPC for it | Jul 02 17:09 |
| schestowitz | so he believes in eternal powers | Jul 02 17:09 |
| XRevan86 | Putin fears anti-reset protests a lot, that is visible. | Jul 02 17:11 |
| XRevan86 | They know they've done shit of unprecedented proportions. | Jul 02 17:11 |
| XRevan86 | When they've passed the Pension Reform, they did it during the world championship when protests were outlawed. | Jul 02 17:16 |
| schestowitz | classic modus is, | Jul 02 17:16 |
| XRevan86 | I thought that maybe this will indeed work in their favour and people will just accept their fate in a few months. | Jul 02 17:16 |
| schestowitz | call the protest foreign power | Jul 02 17:16 |
| schestowitz | say the NGOs are proxies | Jul 02 17:17 |
| schestowitz | and then crush the protests and organisers as opposition from the outside | Jul 02 17:17 |
| XRevan86 | That didn't happen, the end of the championship was followed by protests on a massive scale | Jul 02 17:17 |
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| XRevan86 | So my way of thinking is to way the pandemic out. That's more realistic than trying to wait Putin out, that's for sure %). | Jul 02 17:18 |
| XRevan86 | and then remember this ludicrious circus they're now daring to call a "de-facto referendum" | Jul 02 17:19 |
| MinceR | lol | Jul 02 17:20 |
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| oiaohm | https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/3aza95/how-police-took-over-encrochat-hacked the battle of making protected communications | Jul 02 17:25 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | <XRevan86 "and then remember this ludicriou"> The "very polite men" watch you vote? | Jul 02 19:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Very politely reminding you what happens if you vote wrong. | Jul 02 19:27 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: No, they removed all checks and balances. | Jul 02 19:27 |
| XRevan86 | The ballot box is basically just a box with paper in it. | Jul 02 19:28 |
| XRevan86 | Voter journal is just a book where all the necessary data like the passport number is pre-written, one just has to sign in it and done, voter turn-out large and epic. | Jul 02 19:29 |
| XRevan86 | Even the parity between how many people voted and how many ballots were present wasn't checked. | Jul 02 19:30 |
| XRevan86 | These are consequences of this "voting" not being constrained by the election/refendum fairness law. | Jul 02 19:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Linux 5.7.7. | Jul 02 19:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Now with another half dozen btrfs bug fixes, a decade later, which look like something that would have landed in a -staging driver. | Jul 02 19:34 |
| XRevan86 | This… event hadn't any requirements from law. | Jul 02 19:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Oh sure it might corrupt your data and the person writing the patches can't spell, but what the hell? Features! | Jul 02 19:34 |
| XRevan86 | There was an instruction from the Central Electoral Committee, but that's practically a guideline. | Jul 02 19:36 |
| XRevan86 | So that, e-khem, "de-facto referendum" had no proper independent supervision and conditions for any sort of trust, so I cannot consider the results seriously. | Jul 02 19:38 |
| XRevan86 | It doesn't even matter what real support all that stuff had, because the margin of error for this "voting" is ±100%. | Jul 02 19:39 |
| *DaemonFC[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/VlNGWntRsMXaYFBJJSHpFhMe > | Jul 02 19:40 | |
| XRevan86 | And of course they've tried to fool people with all means into thinking that all this is about is pension indexation (how ironic of them), protection of the Russian language (it's a dying language in Russia), of traditional family (gay parents are worse than starving in an orphanage); and not about Putin ensuring that he's the glorious leader of Russia for life. | Jul 02 19:43 |
| XRevan86 | Putin & co. accuse their opposition in populism, and then they do this. | Jul 02 19:44 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | https://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20200622 | Jul 02 20:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD. | Jul 02 20:24 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Sometimes when using OpenRC my system would not reboot, Devuan would shutdown services, but not power off or restart." | Jul 02 20:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So if you ever miss systemd, you can like, you know, hang your system at shutdown using a completely different pile of garbage. | Jul 02 20:25 |
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| MinceR | afaik OpenRC on Devuan is not officially supported yet and not recommended for everyone | Jul 02 20:27 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: It is. | Jul 02 20:28 |
| XRevan86 | (works fine for me) | Jul 02 20:28 |
| MinceR | i installed Beowulf yesterday and it asked with a warning, but i can't remember exactly what it said | Jul 02 20:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Everyone went running to file their bankruptcy on the last day of June in Illinois-Northern District (Chicago area), so it went absolutely crazy for like a day. Nearly 300 of them. but July 1 was back down to 82. | Jul 02 20:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | When you consider that June 30 probably sucked some of the wind out of the next few days, outlook still bad. | Jul 02 20:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If you wait until the next calendar month, the court will want to see financial papers for an additional month. So it's understandable that people scramble to get it on the docket on the last day, because that' just how people are. | Jul 02 20:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I hurried up and filed on the 26th of May. I was worried that I wasn't going to get everything together until after June 1st and I'd have to pin more bank statements to it. Still would've qualified, but more work. | Jul 02 20:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's a number of factors in why bankruptcy courts will go absolutely crazy at once. | Jul 02 20:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Pent up demand from court closures, rapidly deteriorating economy, people about to lose their extra unemployment stipends and unable to even keep making minimum payments to the banks. | Jul 02 20:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Lots of medical bills from Coronavirus that Trump lied about and said would be "free". | Jul 02 20:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Those stipends that Republicans were complaining about are a dam that was holding back a wave of bankruptcy the likes of which have never been seen. | Jul 02 20:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think we're going to end up in a situation where all of the banks fail at once requiring the Fed to buy them all up. | Jul 02 20:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Of course, all the news will report is the corporate bankruptcies are going to be bad. | Jul 02 20:45 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | In aggregate, a large wave of consumer bankruptcy can do extreme damage to the economy. | Jul 02 20:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | In fact, Congress may have sped along the 2008 collapse with the 2005 bankruptcy law. | Jul 02 20:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Everyone who qualified under the old law went running for the bankruptcy court before they were stuck with all their debt and we had over 2.5 million excess personal bankruptcies for 2005. | Jul 02 20:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Of course, they didn't learn anything, because people never do. | Jul 02 20:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It took a long year full of medium sized financial disasters and the legacy of an underwater car loan on something John got away with to drive me into bankruptcy for the first time in 36 yeats. | Jul 02 20:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Some of these Boomers just time it down to the second and every 8 years they're back in there with all of the flat screens and trips to Europe. | Jul 02 20:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I agree with some of the provisions of the BAPCPA because you had stupid people with six digit incomes like my in-laws going into bankruptcy court every 7 years, and the court would just wave it through. | Jul 02 20:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Now they're just stuck with everything they could have decided not to rack up and proceeded to anyway. | Jul 02 20:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Those 8 times they just had to get themselves fined for speeding, the expensive house with the bad mortgage, the 10 credit cards that were maxed out. The dog that keeps biting everyone that they unloaded $10,000 on for behavioral training (so it could bit the instructor). | Jul 02 20:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Trips to Europe twice a year. | Jul 02 20:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They had me over for Thanksgiving, and it was very tense, and then they started exploding my Facebook Messenger with bullshit like how I wanted their dog to bite me so that I could sue them. | Jul 02 20:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I told him "That's dumb. Let's work out the logic in that, shall we? Assuming you were right and that's how it went down. The bankruptcy court would take it all away to pay my creditors, so there would be no benefit to me in the end. So why would I do it even if I was a despicable unethical person like you two are?" | Jul 02 20:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's absolutely no financial advantage to a "windfall" right now because of the bankruptcy even if I was some kind of a Slippin' Jimmy. (Better Call Saul) | Jul 02 20:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | These people are paranoid to the extreme. | Jul 02 20:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, I foolishly assumed that the car loan would work itself out because there's a "on paper" loss and then there's what it's worth to you to have a car you know you maintained properly for the rest of the service life. | Jul 02 20:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That was contingent on John not being a shithead though, so that fell apart on me, and now he gets to live with it. | Jul 02 20:59 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Psychologically, I believe that my in-laws behave like they do for a number of reasons. | Jul 02 21:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | 1. If anyone gets wind of the illegal activities they're up to, they're finished. | Jul 02 21:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | 2. They're so deep in debt that one hiccup and they're back in court trying to keep the house again. | Jul 02 21:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | 3. The charade of them having a lot of money is contingent on being able to take on more debt, since their income is all going out the door again to pay interest on things they already used. | Jul 02 21:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Barely being able to eek by on god, probably $350,000-400,000 a year means you're a couple of educated idiots. | Jul 02 21:02 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | World's full of them. | Jul 02 21:02 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | The FICO score system is rigged. | Jul 02 21:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It rewards people for being in higher levels of debt and opening more accounts to take on more debt. | Jul 02 21:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then punishes them severely when they miss those minimum payments or head to bankruptcy court. | Jul 02 21:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Ideally, you'll have good enough credit to get an apartment or something and not dumb enough to use it for anything else. | Jul 02 21:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | FICO actually calculates medical bills differently than credit card debt. My mom has this "strategy" of negotiating her medical bills when there's a big one. | Jul 02 21:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Don't pay it until it goes to collections and then saying "I'll pay it if you knock 30% off of it.". | Jul 02 21:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Quite often they do, because they paid like 50 cents on the dollar for it or something and they're still making lots of money. It's very perverse. | Jul 02 21:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If you have major surgery or something and you end up with a $10,000 co-pay and you can knock it down to $7,000 plus some income taxes on the $3,000, you still saved $2,500. | Jul 02 21:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | She told me about that and I said, "Oh yes, now I see why you voted for Trump.". | Jul 02 21:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Walk away from the bills and then offer them less money if they just go away. | Jul 02 21:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then while she's drowning in that, she's like "Oh and then Bernie Sanders wants us to have FREE HEALTHCARE! HAHAHA!!! BUNCH OF IDIOTS WANT THAT WHILE I HAVE TO GO TO WORK!". | Jul 02 21:08 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/02/politics/herman-cain-coronavirus/index.html | Jul 02 21:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Herman Cain is receiving treatment for coronavirus at an Atlanta hospital - CNNPolitics | Jul 02 21:38 | |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Cain, as a co-chair of Black Voices for Trump, was one of the surrogates at President Donald Trump's June 20 rally in Tulsa, Oklahoma. | Jul 02 21:38 |
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| Ariadne | XRevan86: https://twitter.com/ProjectLincoln/status/1278430418161872909 | Jul 02 21:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ProjectLincoln: American soldiers’ lives are in danger and Trump has done nothing to stop it. Add ‘America First’ to the laundry l… https://t.co/epnrMQJD7c | Jul 02 21:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ProjectLincoln: American soldiers’ lives are in danger and Trump has done nothing to stop it. Add ‘America First’ to the laundry l… https://t.co/epnrMQJD7c | Jul 02 21:47 | |
| Ariadne | XRevan86: as a russian, what do you think of the aesthetic of this political ad | Jul 02 21:48 |
| XRevan86 | Ariadne: Eww, looks like something made by My Duck's Vision | Jul 02 21:50 |
| XRevan86 | It's a style that's been adopted by Internet-oriented propaganda a lot. | Jul 02 21:50 |
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| Ariadne | i think that is the idea | Jul 02 21:51 |
| XRevan86 | which was blended with the style of bolsheviks spiced by the US interpretation of the style of bolsheviks | Jul 02 21:52 |
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| XRevan86 | Ariadne: This is obviously mockery of the idea of Russian involvement. | Jul 02 21:53 |
| Ariadne | not exactly. that group is anti-trump | Jul 02 21:53 |
| XRevan86 | Ariadne: Wait, that was serious? | Jul 02 21:53 |
| XRevan86 | so corny | Jul 02 21:53 |
| Ariadne | yes | Jul 02 21:54 |
| Ariadne | that shit is on national television right now playing non-stop | Jul 02 21:54 |
| XRevan86 | Ariadne: Wow, it genuinely feels like a video made by Russian propagandists… | Jul 02 21:54 |
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| Ariadne | yeah i think that was the point | Jul 02 21:57 |
| XRevan86 | Ariadne: Hm, good job then | Jul 02 21:59 |
| XRevan86 | But then they did too good a job | Jul 02 21:59 |
| XRevan86 | because Russian propagandists actually could make a video like that | Jul 02 21:59 |
| Ariadne | that is the idea i think | Jul 02 22:02 |
| Ariadne | that the video would be perceived as russian propagandists patting themselves on the back :p | Jul 02 22:02 |
| XRevan86 | Eh, can't just find some of that dough. Oh well, I could just take one from their personal channel: https://youtu.be/vMV7fvO68Dc | Jul 02 22:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-YouTube | Jul 02 22:04 | |
| XRevan86 | (the video is just absurd humour, but they were hired by the state to do propaganda videos of the same style, so that element is there) | Jul 02 22:08 |
| schestowitz | they're considered pro-war | Jul 02 22:08 |
| schestowitz | https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/lincoln-project-trump-militarism/ | Jul 02 22:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenation.com | Trolling Trump, the Lincoln Project Also Peddles Militarism | The Nation | Jul 02 22:09 | |
| schestowitz | afaik | Jul 02 22:09 |
| XRevan86 | Don't know if they're still hired for this, but apparently the style caught on. | Jul 02 22:09 |
| schestowitz | I did not read past the first 2 paras | Jul 02 22:09 |
| cybrNaut | Schneier just wrote something good that's likely to piss off republicans => https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2020/07/the_security_va.html | Jul 02 22:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Security Value of Inefficiency - Schneier on Security | Jul 02 22:10 | |
| XRevan86 | Ariadne: One nitpick – the text was obviously written in English first. | Jul 02 22:11 |
| Ariadne | well yeah | Jul 02 22:11 |
| Ariadne | we don't have many ex-russian-proagandists in the US to draft :p | Jul 02 22:12 |
| XRevan86 | although загнивающий → decadent is better in Russian | Jul 02 22:14 |
| XRevan86 | but "славная пропаганда" is worse than "glorious propaganda" | Jul 02 22:15 |
| XRevan86 | "американские собаки" (American dogs) – that doesn't sound good in context | Jul 02 22:17 |
| XRevan86 | Would be better: и вас, американцев, мы натравили друг на друга как псов | Jul 02 22:18 |
| XRevan86 | "псы режима" is a real term | Jul 02 22:19 |
| XRevan86 | but it's not собаки режима | Jul 02 22:19 |
| XRevan86 | better: как цепных псов | Jul 02 22:19 |
| Ariadne | schestowitz: the ad they generate their entire pro-war thesis on is from a veterans organization | Jul 02 22:19 |
| Ariadne | schestowitz: they just paid to have it aired on cable tv | Jul 02 22:20 |
| schestowitz | OK, I see... | Jul 02 22:20 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: today will be another recor | Jul 02 22:20 |
| XRevan86 | But otherwise, the grammar is correct, the narrator is a native speaker. | Jul 02 22:20 |
| schestowitz | 44k already, with about 4 hours to go | Jul 02 22:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I sent this comment to Electoral-Vote dot com. | Jul 02 22:21 |
| *DaemonFC[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/FMXATApXjggNWiZIpnaQNldV > | Jul 02 22:21 | |
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| DaemonFC[m] | This is a disaster that nobody even wants to talk about, except from a business angle, of course. | Jul 02 22:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Even then, it's on the down low. | Jul 02 22:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Like some kind of an open secret that shit's about to get heavy. | Jul 02 22:23 |
| Ariadne | oh yeah | Jul 02 22:23 |
| Ariadne | shit is about to get super heavy | Jul 02 22:24 |
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| Ariadne | i'm very concerned about the future of my business | Jul 02 22:24 |
| Ariadne | we've had numerous projects get cancelled at the last minute lately. | Jul 02 22:24 |
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| Ariadne | and, we are in the high-performance networking and computing industry segment | Jul 02 22:25 |
| Ariadne | so we are relatively protected verses other parts of the tech industry | Jul 02 22:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | My bankruptcy was unrelated to the Coronavirus, but I dived in at the last second in May while my lawyer was charging the lower rate from the before time in the long long ago. | Jul 02 22:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Lots of them are bumping from like $800 to like $1600-1800 if you're lucky. | Jul 02 22:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They're striking while the iron's hot. | Jul 02 22:25 |
| Ariadne | i mean | Jul 02 22:25 |
| Ariadne | that is just smart | Jul 02 22:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, I don't blame them. They're about to be swamped with business and the bankruptcy courts are going to have to deal with it when the fur really starts to fly. | Jul 02 22:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If I didn't get mine filed in May I was going to have to use Bankruptcy software and hope for the best when it got to court. | Jul 02 22:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Ariadne: Probably the only reason I wasn't sued before I could file is because the Coronavirus sent everyone running from the courts like the blob was coming. | Jul 02 22:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The people who are actually running the shit are terrified of this virus. | Jul 02 22:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's the dumbfucks in the general public who assault store employees and cuss them out over a face mask. | Jul 02 22:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <Ariadne "we've had numerous projects get "> Yes, there were many business bankruptcies underway when I was in line for mine on the phone. | Jul 02 22:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Mostly fossil fuel related from what I could tell. | Jul 02 22:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That was last Thursday. | Jul 02 22:32 |
| Ariadne | yeah | Jul 02 22:33 |
| Ariadne | oil futures hit negative numbers in may | Jul 02 22:33 |
| Ariadne | that probably fucked up a lot of people | Jul 02 22:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It did. Everyone who was running pilot projects to demonstrate new fracking technology was in there. It was unbelievable. | Jul 02 22:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I thought it was odd that they were filing in Chicago, not Texas or somewhere. | Jul 02 22:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | One guy said the technology worked but before they could get it up to scale, his investors pulled out at the end of January. | Jul 02 22:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Trustee says, "Well, Coronavirus wasn't a big problem here until March.". | Jul 02 22:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Like the investors couldn't see what was going on in China and put 2 and 2 together. | Jul 02 22:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Hmm, highly infectious virus killing people. Planes back and forth all over the world.... No, just not seeing how this will be a problem everywhere shortly! | Jul 02 22:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It doesn't necessarily have to kill more than 1-2% of the people who get it to kill a lot of people if almost everyone gets it over the course of 12 months. | Jul 02 22:37 |
| MinceR | well, it wasn't a problem "everywhere shortly" in the cases of SARS and MERS, afaik | Jul 02 22:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If that is, in fact, what actually happens and it isn't worse. | Jul 02 22:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So the conservatives laughing about that are some sick fucks with bad math skills. | Jul 02 22:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Shorter incubation, higher lethality. | Jul 02 22:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So it killed less people because it was too good at doing it. | Jul 02 22:38 |
| MinceR | hindsight is 20/20 :> | Jul 02 22:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Trump's actions to "prevent it" from getting here maybe took the initial seedings down 20-30%, but that's the thing. | Jul 02 22:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Enough got here that it just prolonged the inevitable. | Jul 02 22:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's like the Window PatchGuard of mitigation. | Jul 02 22:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | With enough truck sized holes, it doesn't really matter anymore. | Jul 02 22:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | At this point, I'd rather that it just blew through the country in a month or two. | Jul 02 22:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Because at least then it would be over. | Jul 02 22:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This whole effort to slow it down is so hospitals get to bill more people before check out time. | Jul 02 22:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm not wearing the mask from hell and using hand sanitizer like crazy for anyone except me and Mandy. | Jul 02 22:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Hoping that everyone else stupidly walks right into it like they're going to so that there will be a wall of people who got it and recovered and the fire dies down. | Jul 02 22:42 |
| Ariadne | so to be clear, you support maximizing the death toll? | Jul 02 22:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Remember that Alien Resurrection movie where they brought Ripley back and she was part Xenomorph and the rest of them knew it? | Jul 02 22:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | She killed one of the Xenomorphs even though it wasn't going to threaten her, and someone asked why she did it. | Jul 02 22:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | She says, "Because it was in my way!". | Jul 02 22:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | We passed "Every man for himself!" in the United States a long time ago. | Jul 02 22:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'd say at this point, my particular view is not that uncommon. | Jul 02 22:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Buy yourself a gun and try to keep from getting the Coronavirus yourself. | Jul 02 22:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The reason it got this bad is because there is no "us" anymore, and that's because of 40 years of right wing politics. | Jul 02 22:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They finally got everything they ever wanted. | Jul 02 22:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The wave of personal bankruptcies is largely because people were barely earning enough to survive before this and took on a lot of debt, and now that will all come crashing down. | Jul 02 22:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The wave of small business bankruptcies is partially because of that, and partially because their small business loans went to megacorporations and Trump donors. | Jul 02 22:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then there will probably be a TARP 2.0 on top of that for big banks and Trump donors who don't create many jobs and just own everything. | Jul 02 22:48 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | <Ariadne "so to be clear, you support maxi"> Also, no. I'm just saying that this is where we're going anyway and at this point I'd prefer for it to be over. | Jul 02 22:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It looks to me like there's going to be a 1-2 month wall of death again and another round of shutdowns. | Jul 02 22:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Because some governors listened to Trump and pulled the plug on their stay home order way too soon. | Jul 02 22:54 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: 48k | Jul 02 22:54 |
| schestowitz | it'll be 55k today, maybe more | Jul 02 22:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It would have done less damage to just write off the shopping malls entirely. | Jul 02 22:54 |
| schestowitz | [22:42] <Ariadne> so to be clear, you support maximizing the death toll? | Jul 02 22:54 |
| schestowitz | it is not about support, nor will... | Jul 02 22:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They'll fail now anyway, but trying to reopen them is what caused Round 2. | Jul 02 22:54 |
| schestowitz | he's powerless about it | Jul 02 22:54 |
| schestowitz | he's a spectator | Jul 02 22:54 |
| schestowitz | not involved in causes and outcomes | Jul 02 22:55 |
| Ariadne | i mean i agree, but it just seems kind of heartless to outright say fuck it | Jul 02 22:55 |
| schestowitz | when you want the numbers to be high, and have no role or stake in it, that may be harmless as you're merely a spectator | Jul 02 22:55 |
| schestowitz | Carlin had a saying to that effect | Jul 02 22:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Trying to move into a post-consumer society is where we should try to take this since we're involuntarily partaking in a social experiment anyway. | Jul 02 22:55 |
| schestowitz | about taking a "Front Row Seat" in the "Freak Show" | Jul 02 22:55 |
| MinceR | the heart has nothing to do with it :> | Jul 02 22:55 |
| schestowitz | Ariadne: like I said, his opinion has no bearing on the outcome | Jul 02 22:56 |
| schestowitz | and he's not mocking or laughing at people's faces ... who are ill | Jul 02 22:56 |
| schestowitz | mask-shaming is distraceful | Jul 02 22:56 |
| schestowitz | esp. when one has a poweful position like Pres | Jul 02 22:57 |
| Ariadne | mask wearing should be normalized in today's surveillance society anyway | Jul 02 22:57 |
| schestowitz | so let's focus and direct the anger at the real culprits | Jul 02 22:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The people who are in those numbers listened to Trump. | Jul 02 22:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Now they'll be mowed down and maybe the rest will learn something. | Jul 02 22:57 |
| schestowitz | Ariadne: I agree | Jul 02 22:57 |
| schestowitz | but a different kind of mask | Jul 02 22:57 |
| schestowitz | and not carriyng so-called 'phones' | Jul 02 22:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I might get one of those light up masks like the one in Watch Dogs 2. | Jul 02 22:58 |
| schestowitz | now we have a lot more evidence that not only "to prevent terror" data associated with location in grabbed in its completeness | Jul 02 22:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They actually make them now. I saw some in Vegas and in the mall. | Jul 02 22:58 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: Gotham City | Jul 02 22:58 |
| schestowitz | the one from the movie | Jul 02 22:58 |
| schestowitz | cybrNaut: so I reposted that forum page/thread | Jul 02 23:00 |
| schestowitz | and it got nearly 6k views already | Jul 02 23:00 |
| schestowitz | 48,153 new cases and 613 new deaths in the United States -- go Donald! | Jul 02 23:01 |
| schestowitz | they're totally losing control of the thing | Jul 02 23:01 |
| schestowitz | "reopen Murica" | Jul 02 23:01 |
| schestowitz | maybe 10 million already have it | Jul 02 23:01 |
| schestowitz | magnitude of 100 million may mean more than a million dead | Jul 02 23:02 |
| AVRS | Ah, even WordNet is not really to blame for what the censors used in the examples: "nouns, directly copied from Wordnet. Those terms were then used to automatically download images of the corresponding noun from Internet search engines at the time" | Jul 02 23:02 |
| schestowitz | Not even counting https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/severe-neurological-ailments-reported-in-covid-19-patients-67676 | Jul 02 23:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.the-scientist.com | Severe Neurological Ailments Reported in COVID-19 Patients | The Scientist Magazine® | Jul 02 23:02 | |
| schestowitz | Even those whose body defeats COVID may die from related complications in the future, unaware https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/severe-neurological-ailments-reported-in-covid-19-patients-67676 | Jul 02 23:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, "recovery" as in the virus being cleared doesn't necessarily mean you're fine. | Jul 02 23:03 |
| schestowitz | we don't know enough yet | Jul 02 23:03 |
| schestowitz | but intuition tells we need longterm studies | Jul 02 23:04 |
| schestowitz | which are not possible yet, insufficient data | Jul 02 23:04 |
| schestowitz | you can have VERY good reason to NOT get the virus | Jul 02 23:04 |
| schestowitz | even if you are young and "strong" | Jul 02 23:04 |
| schestowitz | I mentioned this to some people today... we just don't know yet the real and full impact | Jul 02 23:04 |
| schestowitz | and it can come back to you with mutation in another wave | Jul 02 23:05 |
| schestowitz | better to keep away from it until we know more/better | Jul 02 23:05 |
| schestowitz | Today we got two new chairs... from Germany... due to 5 months of horrible experience the company that makes the chair covered all the costs... as a form of compensation... we both work from home | Jul 02 23:05 |
| schestowitz | rianne spends ages washing everything, esp. what comes from the outside | Jul 02 23:06 |
| schestowitz | so I am 99% sure we didn't get it yet | Jul 02 23:06 |
| schestowitz | if we worked outside the home and had to leave to some office/s to get work done, it'd be almost impossible to avoid it. Sooner or later... | Jul 02 23:06 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: make sure mandy wears a mask at work at all times and keeps away from colleagues etc. | Jul 02 23:07 |
| schestowitz | I think he's the "weakest link" in your household | Jul 02 23:07 |
| cybrNaut | schestowitz> cybrNaut: so I reposted that forum page/thread <= the DDG thread on lemmy, or the Schneier thread on his blog? | Jul 02 23:08 |
| MinceR | "You're the weakest link. Goodbye." | Jul 02 23:08 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/07/02/ddg-privacy-abuser-in-disguise/ | Jul 02 23:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Why People Should Never Ever Use DuckDuckGo | Techrights | Jul 02 23:09 | |
| schestowitz | people often challenged me to give the reasons to avoid it | Jul 02 23:09 |
| MinceR | what _should_ people use? | Jul 02 23:09 |
| schestowitz | and then I had to pick up many pieces i had gathered | Jul 02 23:09 |
| schestowitz | having it all in one place helps | Jul 02 23:09 |
| schestowitz | Will Hill also wrote a web page where he collected and linked to all the findings from techrights at one point... around 2014 | Jul 02 23:10 |
| schestowitz | cybrNaut: there are more issues than are listed there | Jul 02 23:10 |
| cybrNaut | ah, very cool | Jul 02 23:10 |
| schestowitz | but that list in itself can be powerful enough, even if far from complete | Jul 02 23:10 |
| schestowitz | there were more scandals about a decade ago | Jul 02 23:10 |
| schestowitz | and I heard from insiders | Jul 02 23:10 |
| schestowitz | who knew it was a scan | Jul 02 23:10 |
| schestowitz | scam | Jul 02 23:10 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: searx | Jul 02 23:10 |
| schestowitz | but some instances are dodgy | Jul 02 23:10 |
| schestowitz | it's expensive to run those | Jul 02 23:11 |
| schestowitz | if you're good and get a million users it's expensive | Jul 02 23:11 |
| schestowitz | if you don't sell their privacy away, then how to financially maintain it? | Jul 02 23:11 |
| schestowitz | alvavista claims this is why it lost to Google | Jul 02 23:11 |
| schestowitz | https://www.informationweek.com/altavista--almost-google/d/d-id/1054793 | Jul 02 23:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AltaVista--Almost Google - InformationWeek | Jul 02 23:12 | |
| schestowitz | Now Red Hat's CEO | Jul 02 23:12 |
| schestowitz | I heard GOogle's founders got ralatives and all to max their debt ('debit' or 'credit') cards to support the momentum in the early dats | Jul 02 23:12 |
| schestowitz | *days (the garage days) | Jul 02 23:12 |
| schestowitz | *relatives | Jul 02 23:12 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: so, which instance? | Jul 02 23:14 |
| cybrNaut | schestowitz: i just realized searxes.eu.org in that article is dated. the new link is Tor-only: https://ss.wodferndripvpe6ib4uz4rtngrnzichnirgn7t5x64gxcyroopbhsuqd.onion/ | Jul 02 23:15 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | <schestowitz "DaemonFC: make sure mandy wears "> He's wearing a surgical underneath a KN95 mask. | Jul 02 23:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Basically like I do. | Jul 02 23:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I send him to work with another refilled 1 ounce bottle of my "special" hand sanitizer. | Jul 02 23:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I made like 3 gallons of it back in April. | Jul 02 23:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I managed to get ahold of another gallon or so of Germ-X advanced since then. | Jul 02 23:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | At the rate we use it, it should last another 6-8 months. | Jul 02 23:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The stores have hand sanitizer again but under brands I've never heard of, and usually only 60% alcohol. | Jul 02 23:27 |
| cybrNaut | schestowitz: btw, you credit Lemmy but they're just the host. It'd be like crediting Reddit for someone random persons post. Or perhaps it's normal to credit the publisher when the author is anonymous, idk. | Jul 02 23:30 |
| schestowitz | I know | Jul 02 23:40 |
| schestowitz | but it was hard to know how else to credit | Jul 02 23:40 |
| schestowitz | they use pseudonyms | Jul 02 23:40 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: the ones I used are all dead npw | Jul 02 23:41 |
| schestowitz | *now | Jul 02 23:41 |
| MinceR | ic | Jul 02 23:42 |
| cybrNaut | DaemonFC[m]: what's in your sanitizer? more than 60% alc.? | Jul 02 23:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Mix of isopropyl and ethyl alcohol, aloe vera gel, a little tap water. | Jul 02 23:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | To reduce thickness and get the alcohol content to 75%. | Jul 02 23:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's got quite a strong smell to it. | Jul 02 23:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I used wintergreen rubbing alcohol. | Jul 02 23:52 |
| cybrNaut | my isopropal is 70%, so i guess the ethyl alcohol is to kick it up a notch? | Jul 02 23:53 |
| schestowitz | I hardly use those gels anymore | Jul 02 23:53 |
| cybrNaut | i wonder if I could drive around with an open container of Wild Turkey whiskey, and if I have to explain it to a cop just say "hey there's no more hand sanitizer.. i need this to be safe" | Jul 02 23:54 |
| cybrNaut | as i see it, hand sanitizer is for on-the-go, when you're traveling and not near a faucet. b/c of course simple bar soap is better against the virus. | Jul 02 23:55 |
| cybrNaut | (since the coronavirus has a lipid outer shell which the soap disolves) | Jul 02 23:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <cybrNaut "my isopropal is 70%, so i guess "> The ethyl alcohol is from the regular hand sanitizer I already had and I boosted it with 93% isopropyl. | Jul 02 23:56 |
| cybrNaut | ah | Jul 02 23:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If it's under 60% it won't do anything to the virus. New York Governor Andrew Cuomo said on the news that he had state prisoners making the stuff at 75%. | Jul 02 23:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So I figured 75% is probably the right amount. | Jul 02 23:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I usually use it before I leave the laundry room, then again before I come back inside, then I wash my hands. | Jul 02 23:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | At the store I put it all over the cart handle, with gloves on, take the gloves off, use hand sanitizer, and then put new gloves on. | Jul 02 23:59 |
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