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DaemonFC[m]I do like McDonalds occasionally. They sell hamburgers and fries, and every time they veer away from something like that, it ends badly.Sep 02 00:05
DaemonFC[m]They've tried to go upscale repeatedly over the years and it never ends well. They can't break out of what they are.Sep 02 00:06
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: What about those shawarma-like thingies with the fillings of a hamburger?Sep 02 00:07
DaemonFC[m]Haven't seen those here.Sep 02 00:07
XRevan86* rollsSep 02 00:08
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: And uh, chicken nuggetsSep 02 00:09
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, those are actually pretty gross when you read how they make them.Sep 02 00:10
*XRevan86 haven't tried them in eons, and when he did, he did it barely.Sep 02 00:15
XRevan86not really sure why, I kind of assumed they're pretty grossSep 02 00:15
schestowitz 02 01:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Fedora Infrastructure - StatusSep 02 01:01
schestowitz"Service 'Fedora Packages App' now has status: major: Read the infra status link at the top"Sep 02 01:01
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DaemonFC[m]"You know the formula. Comedy = Tragedy + Time. You were asleep for a long time, so I guess I shouldn't need to explain the irony." -GLaDOSSep 02 02:21
DaemonFC[m]"This next test involves turrets. You remember them. Those pale cylindrical objects that are full of bullets. I'm sorry, that's you in 10 seconds. My mistake."Sep 02 02:22
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I'm listening to the soundtrack for A Clockwork Orange.Sep 02 02:23
DaemonFC[m]Seems appropriate these days.Sep 02 02:23
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schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: very well...Sep 02 06:37
DaemonFC[m]Between Chicago and Kenosha. :/Sep 02 06:39
DaemonFC[m]When Zerohedge writes about an American city having its worst violent crime spree since the 80s and one that's burning to the ground and under martial law and you're between the two.Sep 02 06:40
schestowitzRe: When Reid Hoffman @‘s youSep 02 06:46
schestowitz> 🤣Sep 02 06:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@reidhoffman: @philosophybites @stautistic @JoWolffBSG @jasonintrator @B3_MillerValue Thanks for the shout-out, Nigel! How people… 02 06:46
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schestowitz> Sent from my iPhoneSep 02 06:46
schestowitzI don't do Twitter anymore (they're just copies), but I decided to drop in 02 06:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Linked In to Pedophilia | TechrightsSep 02 06:46
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: this was predictedSep 02 06:46
schestowitzback in May or soSep 02 06:46
schestowitzevictions waveSep 02 06:46
schestowitzthe police murders are partly an excuse or something to latch ontoSep 02 06:46
scientesXRevan86, chicken nuggets are a commodity foodSep 02 06:47
schestowitzpeople have legitimate grievances that go beyond the policeSep 02 06:47
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: The CDC ordered a freeze on evictions, 60 days after Trump let it expire.Sep 02 06:47
schestowitzbut the police is viewed as the elite's crushing forceSep 02 06:47
DaemonFC[m]Landlords were in the courts evicting people as fast as they could in places like Indiana.Sep 02 06:47
schestowitznow with helicopters, drones, rubber bullets, gassing protesters and journalistsSep 02 06:47
scientesXRevan86, like fake cheese (which is made from what you throw out when you make cheese)Sep 02 06:47
XRevan86scientes: Are you saying that children nuggets are made out of chicken bones?Sep 02 06:49
scientesnot bonesSep 02 06:49
scientesbut pretty much everything elseSep 02 06:49
scientesyeah, bone marrow is still thrown away en massSep 02 06:49
scientesdespite being fucking deliciousSep 02 06:50
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schestowitzscientes: sometimes if not often/always those nuggets aren't chickenSep 02 09:32
schestowitzthey have this ingredient the industry calls 'chicken fats"Sep 02 09:32
schestowitzso there's chickenSep 02 09:32
schestowitzor chicken meatSep 02 09:32
schestowitzand then "fats"Sep 02 09:32
schestowitzlike it's a separate ingredientSep 02 09:33
schestowitzthe cheaper typeSep 02 09:33
schestowitzimagine buying soap and it says "contains 50% soap fats"Sep 02 09:33
zoobabjust got a BBB instance to do EUPACO5Sep 02 09:33
schestowitzwhat does that mean?Sep 02 09:34
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schestowitzBlue thing?Sep 02 09:36
schestowitzThe education platformSep 02 09:36
schestowitzbig blue button?Sep 02 09:36
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schestowitznew: 02 09:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | BBB vs Jitsi « etbe - Russell CokerSep 02 09:36
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scientesschestowitz, that is kinda what Fight Club was aboutSep 02 10:40
scientesschestowitz, but chicken bones do not contain much fat, so what you are talking about must be from the skinSep 02 10:41
scienteswhich they then call "chicken fat" because that sounds better than "ground and strained chicken skin"Sep 02 10:41
zoobabFOSDEM will save the planet:Sep 02 10:58
zoobab 02 10:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | FOSDEM 2021 - Next FOSDEM: 6 & 7 February 2021, onlineSep 02 10:58
scienteszoobab, Jesus saves, but George Nelson withdrawlsSep 02 11:19
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sebsebsebMinceR: 02 14:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Apple more valuable than the entire FTSE 100 - BBC NewsSep 02 14:57
MinceRwhy don't you buy it thenSep 02 14:57
sebsebseb MinceR lol no you will, win your Hungarin crime money :DSep 02 14:57
MinceRthe oh-so-valuable corporation that can't even produce a usable phone or computerSep 02 14:58
MinceR"you're holding it wrong"Sep 02 14:58
sebsebsebthey mae loely computers and phones with lip stick on and in them :DSep 02 14:58
sebsebsebmake lovely stupid typosSep 02 14:58
sebsebsebMinceR: oh Appl oh so beauitful lookking LOLSep 02 14:59
MinceR 02 15:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - OilSep 02 15:00
MinceRsebsebseb: yeah, i, too love the fisher-price "aesthetic" with drops of colored water on ruled paper or a bad LSD tripSep 02 15:00
MinceRor the toilet seat aesthetic for laptop "computers" you can't use on your lap because they overheatSep 02 15:00
MinceRor the touchscreen phones that look worse than pretty much all competitorsSep 02 15:01
MinceRwith the "minimalistic" design that has a massive crater on the frontSep 02 15:02
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sebsebseb MinceR oh  Apple so so cool LOLSep 02 15:03
MinceRis it? they can't even do cooling properlySep 02 15:04
MinceRsome early devices of theirs lacked a hard drive because steve "blow" jobs didn't want a cooling fanSep 02 15:04
sebsebsebYeah it's hypster !!!!Sep 02 15:04
MinceRthe crApple III melted itself and had to be dropped on the desk (according to crApple) to reseat chips in the warped mainboard or somethingSep 02 15:05
MinceRyes it isSep 02 15:05
MinceRcrApple hipsters suck about as much as microsloth hipsters doSep 02 15:05
sebsebsebMicrosoft ones are secretly cooler :D oh Windos 10 oh WIndows 10, with your subys stem for linux thing and son possibly a Linux kenrel in you too instead of the Windwos one !Sep 02 15:05
MinceRwell, they've certainly started work in making Linux shitty enough to be usable for the basis of BackdoorsSep 02 15:06
MinceRthough they didn't need to do anything about dm_crypt, that was garbage from the get-goSep 02 15:06
sebsebsebdm crypt what's that ?Sep 02 15:07
MinceRdisk encryption subsystem of LinuxSep 02 15:07
sebsebseboh right Sep 02 15:07
MinceRprobably the worst part, not counting cgroups and that DRM bullshit google added recentlySep 02 15:07
MinceRor tried to addSep 02 15:08
MinceRoh, and the hype-V codeSep 02 15:08
MinceRand kdbusSep 02 15:08
MinceRbut those all came laterSep 02 15:08
thddxare there active kernel forks not so beholden to big corps? i've not researchedSep 02 15:08
MinceRi'm not aware of any Linux forks that don't exist for the purposes of a single corporationSep 02 15:08
MinceRit seems to me none of the knowledgeable Linux developers are interested in maintaining a working LinuxSep 02 15:09
thddxthe slow-motion takeover is frustrating to watchSep 02 15:10
MinceRindeedSep 02 15:10
MinceRX is also dying, and seems to be in an even worse stateSep 02 15:11
MinceRafaict none of its current maintainers understand it, so they've come up with waylandSep 02 15:11
thddxgood thing i prefer the cliSep 02 15:11
MinceR(cat) (audio) 02 15:12
MinceRi should have picked a different careerSep 02 15:13
thddxlikewiseSep 02 15:13
sebsebsebMinceR: at least Apple provide good custmer supportSep 02 15:13
sebsebsebMinceR: I been deaing with a partiuclar dutch company  for phone last  three months and got a reply now that I am a little reluctant to just open up but maybe it will be more helpful than beforeSep 02 15:14
MinceRsebsebseb: LOLSep 02 15:14
sebsebsebMinceR: no they do I phoned apple in the past  the call centre, was helpfulSep 02 15:14
MinceRtelling the customer that "they're holding it wrong" and claiming that in general everything that goes wrong is the customer's fault is "good customer support"?Sep 02 15:14
MinceRnot many corporations i'm aware of have as much disdain for their own customers as crAppleSep 02 15:15
sebsebsebMinceR: well my experience of this dutch company hasn't been that good so far for cusomter uspport, let's see what hapepns when i open this email hmmSep 02 15:15
thddxto be fair, that is often trueSep 02 15:15
thddxre: customer's faultSep 02 15:16
MinceRmaybe they shouldn't be so quick to assume it is, thoughSep 02 15:17
sebsebsebnot the experien i had from appleSep 02 15:17
MinceRespecially when they do shit like put pins carring backlight power (relatively high voltage) right next to pins that go to the CPU in a relatively unshielded part of a laptopSep 02 15:17
MinceRoh, and when the cheapest shitty batteries they can find keep setting their shitty phones on fire en masse, they call them "isolated incidents"Sep 02 15:18
MinceRcrApple is one of the sleaziest corporations on this planetSep 02 15:18
sebsebsebApple love MinceR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Sep 02 15:19
MinceRno they don'tSep 02 15:19
MinceRthey only love steve "blow" jobs and tim crookSep 02 15:19
sebsebsebApple knows's how much MinceR secretly loves themSep 02 15:20
thddxheh. i've never purchased/used an apple productSep 02 15:20
sebsebsebthddx: oh you bad boy lol !Sep 02 15:20
MinceRi've never purchased one eitherSep 02 15:21
MinceRi've had the misfortune of using their crap a few timesSep 02 15:21
MinceRi don't miss themSep 02 15:21
sebsebsebMinceR: uh dind't you get the news  years ago, Steve Jobbs diedSep 02 15:22
MinceRi knowSep 02 15:22
MinceRhe died because of his own stupidity, for the most partSep 02 15:22
MinceRthe cultists still love himSep 02 15:22
MinceReven the ones he treated like shitSep 02 15:22
thddxi do have a pixelbook which has been a frustrating experience, but i got it knowing i'd eventually be able to wipe it and go full gnu/linuxSep 02 15:22
sebsebsebthddx: yeah google ?Sep 02 15:23
MinceRi'm hoping someone will make a ryzen 4000-based laptop under 900 g soonSep 02 15:23
thddxyeah, i like the hardware for a portableSep 02 15:23
thddxi get the debugging cable i need to flash a new firmware tomorrowSep 02 15:24
sebsebsebthddx: yeah I got a fair phone which has been a frustraign exepreince trying to get some free head phoens from the networ and then from them,  now they are proaly saying in this email that can't get phones,  maybe tehy will give me a case instead for free who knows or juts be eh again.   I got it so I could wipe android off it and put e/0s on it or whatever,  and so itw ould be on the netwrok contract.  i could have otherwise if had the Sep 02 15:24
sebsebsebmoeny at the time just bought full price no  phones  a e/os versionSep 02 15:24
MinceRThinkPads aren't as good as they used to be :(Sep 02 15:24
sebsebsebthddx: I think that's android based seems to be, but more privacy respecting, but can put other things on tooSep 02 15:24
sebsebsebthddx: also hardware is meant to be more ethical which is niceSep 02 15:25
sebsebsebbut really was just yet another phone to add to my smrart phone colection !Sep 02 15:25
sebsebsebeven the one I am mostly using, I still have't put sailfish on it yet since uhSep 02 15:25
sebsebsebso that's still android  for nowSep 02 15:25
sebsebsebthddx:  what you goign to wipe your device with ?Sep 02 15:26
sebsebsebMinceR OS :DSep 02 15:26
sebsebsebit's themed to look  like AppleSep 02 15:26
sebsebsebbut works much worse :DSep 02 15:26
MinceRi doubt i could make an OS work worse than what crApple shits outSep 02 15:26
thddxsebsebseb: arch linux most likelySep 02 15:26
sebsebseblolSep 02 15:26
sebsebsebthddx: the Google pixel book yeah ?Sep 02 15:27
thddxi'm usually a gentoo guy, but probably not on a portableSep 02 15:27
thddxsebsebseb: yeahSep 02 15:27
sebsebsebI dind't  know it can run other stuff or maybe i did, but i don't hae oneSep 02 15:27
sebsebsebso i don't take much noticeSep 02 15:27
MinceRwhy not void?Sep 02 15:27
sebsebsebbut yeah was meant to be good hardware sureSep 02 15:27
thddxgood hardware wasted on trash softwareSep 02 15:28
sebsebsebsame with APple LOLSep 02 15:28
sebsebsebput Linux  on it !Sep 02 15:28
sebsebsebwell the os is stil lbeter than windwos for apppleSep 02 15:28
thddxi'll reclaim so many resourcesSep 02 15:28
MinceRcrApple's hardware never was goodSep 02 15:28
sebsebsebespeically MinceR  's Ubuntu based Linux distro oh yeah !Sep 02 15:28
MinceRlolSep 02 15:28
MinceRwhat's the point of basing a Linux distro on Ubuntu?Sep 02 15:29
MinceRif you want systemd, just use Fedora or rHELL, you're supposed to believe it's the best thing everSep 02 15:29
sebsebsebMinceR: to theme it afer you, lovely photos of you as the backgrounds bhy defaultSep 02 15:29
sebsebsebMinceR: the  screen saver even that's by default of you running aroundSep 02 15:29
MinceRif you want something even more "modern" than that, just use Backdoors10 or crapOSSep 02 15:29
MinceRsebsebseb: i just blank/lock the screen manually, i don't really have a screen saverSep 02 15:30
sebsebsebMinceR: then when you die the updaetd version can be in memory of you!Sep 02 15:30
MinceRwhen i die, i won't care even this muchSep 02 15:30
sebsebsebyep most distros got rid of screesnaers now i thin kSep 02 15:30
sebsebsebsince arne't needed as much now or so they saySep 02 15:30
MinceRhopefully i'll be free of this hell thenSep 02 15:30
sebsebsebbut can optioanl put back the screensavers like i do at times :)Sep 02 15:30
sebsebsebMinceR: you will get cremated and a memorail stone put in hungary  some wehreSep 02 15:31
sebsebsebMinceR: in Memory of mincer the guy who  said he hated apple but secretly loved them !Sep 02 15:31
MinceRthe memorial stone is extremely unlikelySep 02 15:31
MinceRthe nazis that rule this shithole do love crApple thoughSep 02 15:32
sebsebsebthddx  wil visit your graveSep 02 15:32
MinceRand they're more likely to have memorials once they kick the bucketSep 02 15:32
thddxMinceR: i'm not really familiar w/ void. i prefer barebones distrosSep 02 15:32
MinceRi wouldn't call arch "barebones"Sep 02 15:32
XRevan86Void is not barebones?Sep 02 15:33
thddxnot w/ system-d, trueSep 02 15:33
thddxXRevan86: i'm not sure. is it? i'd certainly consider itSep 02 15:33
XRevan86thddx: Pretty barebones, yes.Sep 02 15:34
thddxi'll check it outSep 02 15:34
sebsebsebthe best phone was................... the Ubuntu phones :)Sep 02 15:35
MinceRlolSep 02 15:35
thddxi have little need for phones. i have an xperiaSep 02 15:35
MinceRi thought those are phonesSep 02 15:35
sebsebsebXRevan86: xpeira x ?Sep 02 15:35
sebsebsebthddx:  for youSep 02 15:35
XRevan86sebsebseb: Incidentally, I have an xperia raySep 02 15:36
thddxxz1 compactSep 02 15:36
sebsebsebthddx: I got an xperia x I am meaning to put sailifsh os on still at some stage uhSep 02 15:36
sebsebsebMinceR: Ubuntu phones orn ow ubports carry it on  are good for what they are :)Sep 02 15:36
thddxsmallest somewhat recent phone i could find a few years agoSep 02 15:36
MinceRsebsebseb: what are they? yet another way to be bothered by systemd all day, every day?Sep 02 15:37
sebsebsebMinceR: oh yeah whoops the grave will also say, and he also loved SystemD  more  than he would any woman in the whole world !Sep 02 15:37
sebsebsebMinceR: SystemD was his beautiful woman mentally !Sep 02 15:38
MinceRsebsebseb: who will fund all this bullshit? you?Sep 02 15:38
sebsebsebMinceR: possibly,   will crwod fund and thddx and XRevan86 will donate :)Sep 02 15:38
MinceRhow will you know where to put the monument?Sep 02 15:38
sebsebsebMinceR: your goverment have already been syyying on you most of your life there, so they will tell me a good place :DSep 02 15:39
*XRevan86 didn't sign anythingSep 02 15:39
MinceRno they won'tSep 02 15:39
sebsebsebXRevan86: no you just need to donate when it's time :) on the crowd fund for hs memorial grave :)Sep 02 15:39
MinceRalso, you don't even know an identity they can connect to meSep 02 15:39
sebsebsebMinceR: oh they have spys they know about your secret identities too :DSep 02 15:40
MinceRi find that hard to believeSep 02 15:40
sebsebseb MinceR they don't have that much to do in hungary except try and keep a few illegal imigrants out, other than spying on you soSep 02 15:40
MinceRthey have plenty of stealing to doSep 02 15:40
MinceRand buying shitty german cars from tax moneySep 02 15:41
MinceRand buying shitty crApple products from tax moneySep 02 15:41
MinceRand socializing with their oligarchsSep 02 15:41
sebsebsebwell with the exceting of thoe things yesSep 02 15:41
MinceRand making up tons of bullshit about "migrants" and "Soros"Sep 02 15:41
sebsebseband some covid stuff more recently tooSep 02 15:41
MinceRthey don't do much about COVID-19Sep 02 15:41
MinceRthey're fucking up the school reopening really hardSep 02 15:42
sebsebsebMinceR: uhmm the schools have opended up here ine ngalnd this weekSep 02 15:42
MinceRthat's probably why we get more new cases every day than any day during the previous waveSep 02 15:42
sebsebsebyepSep 02 15:42
MinceRoh, i forgot, they're also having stadia built that nobody will useSep 02 15:43
MinceRfrom tax moneySep 02 15:43
sebsebsebsoros? stadia? what's that ?Sep 02 15:43
MinceRstadia is the plural of stadiumSep 02 15:44
MinceRGeorge Soros is their current scapegoat for everythingSep 02 15:44
sebsebsebyep thought you might of meant statidumSep 02 15:44
sebsebsebMinceR: oh yeah hungary needs a stadium or more to attract the world there !Sep 02 15:44
sebsebsebhey look we can do football and such here tooSep 02 15:44
MinceRit isn't workingSep 02 15:45
XRevan86MinceR: Also cultivated here and in UkraineSep 02 15:45
sebsebsebXRevan86: yes nasty RUssia lolSep 02 15:45
MinceRon second thought, the new cases are probably not from the school reopeningSep 02 15:46
MinceRthose probably won't be detected until ~14 days from the first school daysSep 02 15:46
MinceRso this is probably more of the mass events that people who don't care attendedSep 02 15:46
sebsebsebMinceR: are you nice and masked up there :D ?Sep 02 15:46
MinceRi'm not masked, i'm in my own room, aloneSep 02 15:46
sebsebsebMinceR: alone with XRevan86 keeping you company onlne and me lolSep 02 15:47
sebsebsebMinceR: what you think about face masks ?Sep 02 15:47
sebsebsebor face coverings as they say here now evenSep 02 15:47
XRevan86 02 15:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Bundesregierung | Aktuelles | Erklärung der Bundesregierung im Fall NawalnySep 02 15:49
sebsebsebXRevan86: yeh smeone got poinsed apparnatly or sommethingSep 02 15:49
sebsebsebpoisinedSep 02 15:49
XRevan86Confirmed to be Novichok.Sep 02 15:49
thddxis this a new poisoning?Sep 02 15:49
XRevan86thddx: No, this is Alexei NavalnySep 02 15:50
thddxok. is there a new development? sorry, don't have access to a fully featured browser w/ translation.. only elinksSep 02 15:50
XRevan86thddx: Yes, a confirmation on the type of poison.Sep 02 15:51
thddxthe nerve agent?Sep 02 15:51
XRevan86yesSep 02 15:51
thddxthe world is heatin upSep 02 15:52
MinceRsebsebseb: not sure, but i'm not taking chancesSep 02 15:52
MinceRafaik there isn't even a consensus about how small the water droplets carrying SARS-CoV-2 can beSep 02 15:53
thddxi've not been too careful. i only wear a mask indoors, in crowded area, or around symptomatic peopleSep 02 15:54
XRevan86thddx: So you haven't been protecting yourself from fresh air?Sep 02 15:54
thddxnopeSep 02 15:54
thddxi moved to a less dense area so that i could walk outdoors freelySep 02 15:55
thddxalso a better vantage to watch the shit show that is U.S. politicsSep 02 15:55
sebsebsebthddx: where are you from ?Sep 02 15:55
thddxnortheast U.S. originally. currently in the mid-atlantic by the mountainsSep 02 15:56
sebsebsebMinceR: I am avoiding masks compeltly for now, no bus, no phsycall shops online shopping sintead,  the only thing that' ashme is there's a good movieo out in the cinema that would hae otherwise wanted to go see etc so hmm Sep 02 15:56
sebsebsebMinceR: still want to see it, but hmmSep 02 15:56
MinceRwell, going to the cinema is a bad idea anywaySep 02 15:56
MinceRmasks won't protect you 100%Sep 02 15:56
sebsebsebMinceR: I  went without mask like three four times before had to have thereSep 02 15:57
MinceRplus part of the money you pay for the ticket tends to go to the MPAASep 02 15:57
sebsebsebMinceR: altoughp eople can take off for eat and dirnk it seemsSep 02 15:57
thddxi went to a chicken wing festival a couple days ago. it was outdoors and not crowded, so i wasn't worriedSep 02 15:57
sebsebsebMinceR: thddx 02 15:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Tenet gives shot in arm to UK and Ireland cinemas - BBC NewsSep 02 15:59
sebsebsebthddx: yep way more covid over thereSep 02 15:59
sebsebsebthan hereSep 02 15:59
MinceRalso to SARS-CoV-2Sep 02 15:59
sebsebsebMinceR: thddx  I guess enough peopel went anyway despite masks in teh UKSep 02 16:00
sebsebsebMinceR: thddx sick of this rubbish now too really, got at least another six months yet it seemsSep 02 16:01
sebsebsebaltough flue gets more deathsi n the uk now it seemsSep 02 16:01
thddxi actually don't have health insurance, so i need to rely on good health & resilienceSep 02 16:02
MinceRmaybe it won't ever go away as long as humans surviveSep 02 16:02
thddxi don't like paying into our shit health care systemSep 02 16:02
sebsebsebMinceR: I just want to get on a bus go down to the city centre, no mask, or excemption car/dlanyard do somethng fun etcSep 02 16:02
sebsebsebMinceR: or off some wehre else with reason  to meet a girl/woman for example :D   on the train no masks etcSep 02 16:03
sebsebsebwell maybe for the girl/woman ting :dSep 02 16:03
sebsebsebthddx: yeh we get the NHS in UKSep 02 16:03
sebsebsebthddx: which isn't perfect but better tahn the american system for suerSep 02 16:03
sebsebsebthen for those that want to they can get private health care tooSep 02 16:04
sebsebsebpaid forSep 02 16:04
thddxwe can do betterSep 02 16:04
thddxwe need a resetSep 02 16:04
sebsebsebthddx: well I read the other day that TRmp is heading for president again !Sep 02 16:05
thddxi wouldn't be surprisedSep 02 16:05
thddxit's absurdSep 02 16:05
thddxbut the dems are stupid fucksSep 02 16:05
sebsebsebthey need the Russians to interffer again, hey XRevan86 can you arrange that :DSep 02 16:05
sebsebsebha haSep 02 16:05
sebsebsebbut make it swing hte other way this time !!!!!Sep 02 16:05
XRevan86sebsebseb: Sure, I can write an angry letterSep 02 16:06
MinceRputler is still pals with twitlerSep 02 16:06
thddxmake us yo-yo between extremesSep 02 16:06
XRevan86with poor grammar if that's neededSep 02 16:06
thddxit's a good strategySep 02 16:06
MinceRjust get rid of the stateSep 02 16:06
sebsebsebXRevan86: we need those russians crackers to mess with the us election again, but you can arrange that :DSep 02 16:06
XRevan86sebsebseb: Does that even need arrangement?Sep 02 16:07
sebsebsebXRevan86: yep from you with your inks to the Kremlin :DSep 02 16:08
sebsebseblinksSep 02 16:08
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schestowitz[14:57] [Notice] -TechrightsBot-tr to #techrights- | Apple more valuable than the entire FTSE 100 - BBC NewsSep 02 16:09
schestowitzNo, it is notSep 02 16:09
schestowitzIt's a Ponzi schemeSep 02 16:09
schestowitzthe financial figures don't represent the fake market capSep 02 16:09
thddxit'll crash hard at some pointSep 02 16:10
schestowitzalong with many othersSep 02 16:10
schestowitzGAFAM sponsored by Pentagon stillSep 02 16:10
thddxbut there's a lot of passive investment momentumSep 02 16:10
schestowitzstill there are reliable books, decent literature on it,Sep 02 16:10
schestowitzUS wastes trillionsSep 02 16:10
schestowitzfor digital dominance, floating these spying giantsSep 02 16:10
schestowitzpart of 02 16:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Full-spectrum dominance - WikipediaSep 02 16:10
schestowitzGoogle is collecting far more data for the empire 02 16:11
schestowitzit also buys off many scholars and community worldwideSep 02 16:11
schestowitzFascist Nazi blackmails China to give TickTok to his criminalsSep 02 16:11
schestowitzand it is not sustainableSep 02 16:11
schestowitz27 trillion in deabtSep 02 16:11
schestowitz4 trillion more this year aloneSep 02 16:12
schestowitzmore than total US GSPSep 02 16:12
schestowitz*GDPSep 02 16:12
schestowitzwait for the whole thing to crashSep 02 16:12
thddxyep. none of that is news to meSep 02 16:12
MinceR 02 16:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - EntangledSep 02 16:12
schestowitzbut then something else that's bad can take its placeSep 02 16:12
schestowitzFreeSW is in disarray because of entryism by empire and back doors etc.Sep 02 16:12
schestowitzAmazon has just been given approval to fly drones everywhereSep 02 16:13
thddxdid they? christSep 02 16:13
schestowitzSame company that puts CCTV in homes and lets police hot-access thoseSep 02 16:13
schestowitzAlexa will go above your home, tooSep 02 16:14
sebsebsebschestowitz: I guess the face coveing stuff in cinema doens't matter enough 02 16:14
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schestowitzit doesn't matterSep 02 16:15
schestowitzthey've long been obsoleteSep 02 16:15
schestowitznot the masksSep 02 16:15
schestowitzthe cinemasSep 02 16:15
schestowitzHollywood is subsidised partly for brainwashSep 02 16:16
schestowitzand this has been well documentedSep 02 16:16
schestowitzthe overreachSep 02 16:16
MinceRwell yeah, watching movies at home is much more comfortableSep 02 16:16
thddxthere's too much exposition in most media, so i don't really consumeSep 02 16:17
sebsebsebschestowitz: for brain wash ???????Sep 02 16:17
MinceRi can see all the pixels, hear all the audio, pause/rewind whenever i want, use audio language and subtitles of my choiceSep 02 16:17
MinceRnobody making noises around meSep 02 16:17
thddxMinceR: agreed. i do have a library of the specific things i enjoySep 02 16:17
schestowitzor farted in 'your' chair, MinceRSep 02 16:17
sebsebsebMinceR: weoll there can be that, but when it's quite not many people in cinema it's niceSep 02 16:17
sebsebsebMinceR: or got the romo for selfSep 02 16:17
MinceRyeah, their chairs are inferior to mine as wellSep 02 16:18
schestowitzhey, you can get popcorn out of themSep 02 16:18
schestowitzif you really trySep 02 16:18
schestowitzand if they don't clean wellSep 02 16:18
MinceRlolSep 02 16:18
schestowitzsometimes we sneak a pack of nuts in, then eat is quietlySep 02 16:18
thddxcinema s kind of silly to me. it's not an experience that really benefits from a crowdSep 02 16:18
sebsebsebschestowitz: MinceR  well this is  the first realy big block buster,  they don't heave much new to show crurentlySep 02 16:18
thddxmaybe a drive-in movieSep 02 16:18
schestowitzhealthier than popcorn and doesn't cost $100 per kiloSep 02 16:18
sebsebsebschestowitz: MinceR it's the stupid mask stuff or i would go wahtch this i thinkSep 02 16:19
sebsebsebMinceR: schestowitz but cineam can be annoing with annoying pepole tehre too yepSep 02 16:19
sebsebsebthddx: we don't really have drive ins in the UK or in most places, but for a little bit they going to do something down the road here, at the former air filedSep 02 16:19
sebsebsebthddx: but those are all old movies really so uhmmSep 02 16:19
sebsebsebthddx: drive in to whatch old films yep sit in your car  doing that, and free pop corn from Tesco, the biggest UK super marketSep 02 16:20
thddxthose are the types of events i'd consider. group outdoor movies usually showing a documentary or something else that begets conversation w/ fellow viewersSep 02 16:20
sebsebsebthddx: also if it's chilly then etc, I guess it won't be that nice, hey waht if it rains too, this thing is outsideSep 02 16:20
schestowitznow the incentive to sink money into movies and invest in productions is lowerSep 02 16:22
schestowitzso it's a cyclical issueSep 02 16:22
schestowitzthe thing is going down the drain basicallySep 02 16:22
schestowitzno good movies, no watchersSep 02 16:22
schestowitzno watchers, no investmentSep 02 16:22
schestowitznetflix I heard... that at some point was losing money, perhaps still isSep 02 16:23
thddxgood. 95% of the content is trashSep 02 16:23
schestowitzas so many companies have crooked CFOs and are de facto pyramid schemes with NDAs hard to know...Sep 02 16:23
sebsebsebschestowitz: thddx uh tennet  i a good movie and  unhinged but that's about all they got to show that's new currentlySep 02 16:23
MinceRnetfucks had a hand in killing the open webSep 02 16:23
MinceRso they deserve to go down as wellSep 02 16:23
schestowitzTesla and Uber are still around... making unbelievable losses with no end to the losses in sightSep 02 16:23
schestowitzTwitter ran in losses for like 12 yearsSep 02 16:24
thddxMinceR: yes, i did not forget about that legislationSep 02 16:24
schestowitzMinceR: let's hope they taken down hollywood with themSep 02 16:24
thddxwhen i tell people i don't use streaming services, they don't understandSep 02 16:24
schestowitzstreaming is expensiveSep 02 16:24
schestowitzyou need many network engineersSep 02 16:24
schestowitzthey're not cheapSep 02 16:24
schestowitzyou send like 5GB across a pipe for $2 in revenueSep 02 16:25
thddxindeed. i've run a small streaming server and it consumesSep 02 16:25
schestowitzstroage serversSep 02 16:25
thddxi prefer to stay in my nice isolated LANSep 02 16:25
schestowitzpackets, security, firewalling, switching...Sep 02 16:25
schestowitzplus staffSep 02 16:25
schestowitzat $100k+ per yearSep 02 16:25
schestowitzI often wonder if YouTube is  profitableSep 02 16:26
schestowitzI think google isSep 02 16:26
schestowitzthe adsSep 02 16:26
schestowitznot sure if ads in youtube have been enoughSep 02 16:26
schestowitzthey employ an army of moderators and pay finesSep 02 16:26
schestowitzUS will keep itafloatSep 02 16:26
schestowitzthey censor for empeireSep 02 16:26
schestowitzand flag/remove anything not supporting imperial narrativeSep 02 16:27
schestowitzbut for how long? It's EXPENSIVE!Sep 02 16:27
smnthermesMaybe people should write articles with more frequency than videosSep 02 16:41
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oiaohmschestowitz:   Alphabet that is google parent of course put YouTube income from advertisement at 15 billion.Sep 02 16:45
oiaohmSo yes currently if you believe the reports YouTube is profitable.   Of course with more restrictions and fines this may not remain the case.Sep 02 16:47
schestowitzrevenue or income?Sep 02 16:48
schestowitzif they employ like 10,000 people inc. moderators and pay some people to act as "producers" and "partners" (as they do), then you're looking into billions spentSep 02 16:48
schestowitzhow many? Don't know...Sep 02 16:48
schestowitz(and i don't trust them, either)Sep 02 16:48
thddxbehavioral control is more valuable than $$Sep 02 16:50
thddxi see the normalization throughout my social bubbles. the slow creep of conformism. hand-waving away unethical behavior & intentionsSep 02 16:53
schestowitztrueSep 02 16:55
thddxclimate pressure will eventually break the spellSep 02 16:57
oiaohmschestowitz: Traffic Acquisition Costs (TAC)   in those numbers is 8 billion in costs for all their services.     So Youtube income from advertisement 4Q 2019 being 15 billion is 7 billion more than costs for everything in internet services.  Really google has to be bleeding a lot into uber and the like.Sep 02 17:00
thddxeventual de-pop is probably a core reason gov't is so invested in tech. to better direct public perception & and falloutSep 02 17:01
oiaohm  Alphabet/google runs a lot of busienss that are money pits by the provided numbers.   Youtube is not one of those.  Yes uber eats is a mega black hole.Sep 02 17:04
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oiaohmThere are a lot of things like Australian regulatators wanting to push for google and facebook to pay for news content.Sep 02 17:08
oiaohmYoutube and Google search are at the moment profitable for alphabet but with enough governments messing with that segment those may not be that profitable long term and with all the alphabet blackholes things could go really bad really quickly.Sep 02 17:09
scientesoiaohm, dude, Google is highly tied to the state dept.Sep 02 17:27
scientestheir engineers, not so muchSep 02 17:27
DaemonFC[m] 02 17:43
DaemonFC[m]Things have gotten so bad under Trump that desperate people trying to get low paying gig work from Amazon have atarted hanging cell phones on trees so that they increase their chances of getting low paying delivery jobs that pay less than minimum wage.Sep 02 17:43
DaemonFC[m]Amazon got the "Tax Cuts" and then they cut "Jobs" like most companies that did because Trump's failed presidency is all an Act.Sep 02 17:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Amazon Drivers Are Hanging Smartphones in Trees to Get More WorkSep 02 17:43
DaemonFC[m]schestowitzSep 02 17:43
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: I linked to that earlierSep 02 18:10
schestowitzsomeone sent it to me from ScandinaviaSep 02 18:10
schestowitzthe US has a serious economic issue right nowSep 02 18:11
schestowitzsaw about 6 articles about it today aloneSep 02 18:11
schestowitzthe problem is, they spread this problem hereSep 02 18:11
schestowitzUber and stuffSep 02 18:11
schestowitzthe "gig economy" BSSep 02 18:11
schestowitzWe need to decline and reject thatSep 02 18:11
schestowitzthose American multinationals pay nothing in tax and offer NOTHING of value to usSep 02 18:11
DaemonFC[m]I told my dad that if it gets much worse here the wall will be to keep us in and they will shoot at people for trying to leave.Sep 02 18:11
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: East germanySep 02 18:12
schestowitzruled by sovietsSep 02 18:12
schestowitzTrump is "a fan"Sep 02 18:12
DaemonFC[m]Canada has a problem with Coronavirus. Them shutting down the border has little to do with that and more to do with people taking bitcoin wallets and living there and paying for things with cash.Sep 02 18:12
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: You can tell them you're driving to Alaska and then not go Alaska.Sep 02 18:12
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: ask him how many thetans it costs to leaveSep 02 18:13
DaemonFC[m]Mom and dad think Social Security will keep going with 30% unemployment and no payroll tax.Sep 02 18:14
DaemonFC[m]They both think the economy is great because the shit hasn't hit them yet.Sep 02 18:14
schestowitzit is starting from the bottomSep 02 18:14
DaemonFC[m]They don't think even 1 or 2 years ahead, Roy. It's terrifying.Sep 02 18:14
schestowitzthe rich are last to be fed to the lionsSep 02 18:14
schestowitzor burned at the stake by the 50% who have no incomeSep 02 18:14
schestowitzwe never finished the 2007/8 economic crisisSep 02 18:15
schestowitzwe pressed "remind me later"Sep 02 18:15
schestowitzor kicked the can down the road with another round of financial bubbleSep 02 18:15
schestowitznow claims that apple is worth two trillion, which is HI-LAAARIOUSSep 02 18:15
schestowitzmy dad laughs so hardSep 02 18:15
schestowitzall those companies that claim to be worth 10 times what they areSep 02 18:15
schestowitzand...Sep 02 18:15
thddxoh yeah. deferring the correction only to cause a massive, hard collapseSep 02 18:15
schestowitzsome that are worse than uselessSep 02 18:16
schestowitzlike uber and teslaSep 02 18:16
schestowitzwhich show nothing but losses and lossesSep 02 18:16
DaemonFC[m]Apple makes expensive cell phones and somehow has a market cap larger than the entire Russel 2000, which is 2,000 small and midcap stocks. This is nothing more than Trump and the Fed jerry rigging everything and buying the shit out of Apple stock and loading them up with cheap debt directly from the "lender of last resort" so that they can do share buybacks that make Tim Cook richer, while most Americans getSep 02 18:18
DaemonFC[m]absolutely no help at all.Sep 02 18:18
DaemonFC[m]Also, Apple's market share for expensive cell phones is dwindling and their stock is "going up", which should rightly be impossible since they haven't had a product in years.Sep 02 18:19
schestowitzponziSep 02 18:20
DaemonFC[m]Their market share for their flagship product is in a death spiral because 50% of Americans aren't paying....can't pay their mortgage, auto loan, rent, medical bills, and credit cards. Again, no help at all from Trump. Totally useless.Sep 02 18:20
schestowitzit's valuable because it's valuable because it's valuableSep 02 18:20
schestowitzuntil the whose premise failsSep 02 18:20
schestowitzthen it starts cascading like banks with loans that could not be paid backSep 02 18:20
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: you need a iPadSep 02 18:21
schestowitzit goes with the trailerSep 02 18:21
schestowitzor the old carSep 02 18:21
schestowitzthat you sleep inSep 02 18:21
schestowitzbe classy with well-lit "Apple" logoSep 02 18:21
thddxpassive investment feedback loopsSep 02 18:21
schestowitzwho needs a bed and a loo anyway?Sep 02 18:21
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: ask MandySep 02 18:22
thddxretirement accountsSep 02 18:22
schestowitzin Tondo some people choose a "Smart" phone (class symbol) over stuff like food and medicineSep 02 18:22
schestowitzthddx: pension fundsSep 02 18:22
schestowitzprospective, promisesSep 02 18:22
thddxindeedSep 02 18:22
DaemonFC[m]No, I really don't. You can't eat an iPad and the idiots who are stacked 500 deep to buy one with their stimulus check, that Trump signed like an idiot. 'Here, I destroyed the economy and you'll be permanently unemployed. Here's a thousand dollars once! DERP! Oh, I signed it. Vote for me!'.....they'll figure it out.Sep 02 18:22
schestowitzyou break the promisesSep 02 18:22
schestowitzand then carve more money off them, deflating the currency etc.Sep 02 18:23
schestowitzin zimbabwe right now purchasing power fell 90%Sep 02 18:23
schestowitzso people ca barely buy foodSep 02 18:23
schestowitzwith same salary, jobSep 02 18:23
sebsebsebschestowitz: MinceR thddx  DaemonFC[m]  yep Fiar phone support not impressed !Sep 02 18:23
schestowitzsome desperately cross the border to South AfricaSep 02 18:23
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: food is overrated anyway :-)Sep 02 18:25
schestowitzunless you duffer malnutrition (not funny actually, to some it's not a choice)Sep 02 18:25
DaemonFC[m]What they need to do is file bankruptcy. My old landlord in Huntington, IN ran a rocket docket on the court to evict over three dozen renters of his (in a town of 14,000) between Indiana letting their eviction freeze expire and Trump actually implementing a new federal one yesterday. Assuming it's even real and not just smoke and mirrors like most of Trump's "executive actions", they could have paid $350 to fileSep 02 18:28
DaemonFC[m]bankruptcy the day before the eviction proceeding, print it out, show the state court judge (who would have to freeze the eviction), and then motion to withdraw the bankruptcy. That only gets you barred from filing again for 60 days. Then if Trump lets the freeze expire on January 1st, file bankruptcy for realsies the day before court. You could keep the landlord tied up until next May trying to get rid of you. But dSep 02 18:28
DaemonFC[m]you think any of those people are that smart? Trump slow walked this so that as many people as possible would be evicted first.Sep 02 18:28
DaemonFC[m]Bankruptcy stay is federal law, Indiana judges and the Indiana Governor have no say over that.Sep 02 18:30
DaemonFC[m]Here in Illinois, the state eviction freeze never expired.Sep 02 18:30
thddxi fully expect to be homeless eventuallySep 02 18:30
DaemonFC[m]The only reason Trump might care about optics is the election. Once it's over with, whether he wins or loses, he'll totally forget about everyone who needs a home and some food. He only barely cares right now.Sep 02 18:31
schestowitzgoodSep 02 18:32
schestowitzMandy got promotedSep 02 18:32
schestowitzand people still need foodSep 02 18:32
schestowitzfood outside is a luxury fewer will be able to affordSep 02 18:32
schestowitzthddx: many are politically homelessSep 02 18:32
schestowitzor orphanedSep 02 18:32
schestowitznobody to vote for who actually works for the general publicSep 02 18:32
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: he won't lose a pulse/stroke over itSep 02 18:32
schestowitzor will he?Sep 02 18:32
DaemonFC[m]Well, they did rush him to the hospital last year and then said it was a routine physical. I normally fly by helicopter in a panic over a routine physical. Anyway, Trump dying in office isn't something to root for, only because of Mike Pence. The governor of Indiana who governed over an AIDS epidemic and "prayed about it". Fucking useless piece of shit.Sep 02 18:34
schestowitzmany homeless + many empty homes = rebellion guaranteed, class rebellionSep 02 18:34
thddxno doubtSep 02 18:34
schestowitz[18:34] <DaemonFC[m]> Well, they did rush him to the hospital last year and then said it was a routine physical.Sep 02 18:34
schestowitzSo did HRCSep 02 18:34
schestowitzunless a video was floatedSep 02 18:34
schestowitzwhere she basically gets seen... collapsing... thrown like a piece of meat into the vanSep 02 18:35
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: social distancing not a problem at the gymSep 02 18:36
schestowitzpool emptySep 02 18:36
schestowitzgym emptySep 02 18:36
schestowitzchanging rooms emptySep 02 18:37
schestowitzsocial distancing @ infinitySep 02 18:37
schestowitzbut as a business they're not financially sustainableSep 02 18:37
schestowitz10 covid deaths here todaySep 02 18:38
schestowitz3 yesterdaySep 02 18:38
schestowitz2 and 1 prior daysSep 02 18:38
schestowitzso many 20-30 dead a weekSep 02 18:39
schestowitzmostly people over 70Sep 02 18:39
schestowitzbut town is quietSep 02 18:39
schestowitzmany businesses shutSep 02 18:39
schestowitzoffice buildings, parking lotSep 02 18:39
schestowitzpeople stay at home moreSep 02 18:39
schestowitzno spendingsSep 02 18:39
schestowitzand eateries don't get enough income to pay even utility billsSep 02 18:39
schestowitznot sure how it all ends...Sep 02 18:39
DaemonFC[m]America is just one big game of So Long, Sucker now. Sep 02 18:42
DaemonFC[m]John Forbes Nash would be proud.Sep 02 18:42
thddxyeah, it's terrible. everyone is sprinting toward some imaginary finishing lineSep 02 18:44
DaemonFC[m]So Long, Sucker isn't entirely original.Sep 02 18:44
DaemonFC[m]Monopoly was created by a socialist to highlight how awful Capitalism is.Sep 02 18:44
DaemonFC[m]One person makes off with all the money and property and forces all the other players into bankruptcy.Sep 02 18:45
thddxwe didn't get the memo. or, we didn't retain the knowledgeSep 02 18:45
DaemonFC[m]Each trip around the board, you know, you collect a tiny paycheck that can't possibly last another trip around the board unless you roll a perfect combination that's almost impossible. Sep 02 18:45
thddxit's too easy to redefine, weaponize, and spray scary words into the public sphereSep 02 18:46
DaemonFC[m]The only way to win is get lucky and invest in screwing the other players as hard as you can.Sep 02 18:46
thddxrather than, you know, strategically allocating human capital and resourcesSep 02 18:46
schestowitzchina does this betterSep 02 18:47
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schestowitzbut at the expense of human rightsSep 02 18:47
thddxyeah, it seems the optimal answer is somewhere inbetweenSep 02 18:48
schestowitzI wonder if China has telemarketers and robocallersSep 02 18:48
schestowitzI never heard of thatSep 02 18:48
MinceRyeah, red china screws its slaves really wellSep 02 18:48
schestowitzbut they do spurt out a fair bit of email spamSep 02 18:48
MinceRyay for red chinaSep 02 18:48
thddxtech, if well applied, could have been and could still be the scaffolding on which efficient prosperity is distributed, but it's looking more like that ship has sailedSep 02 18:49
schestowitzI didn't say china did well Sep 02 18:49
schestowitzbut for manufacturing it became a powerpowerSep 02 18:49
schestowitzfirst bar none.. but a looong gapSep 02 18:49
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: The reason the banks almost never challenge a bankruptcy is because they borrow the money from the Trump Fed at like 0.25% and then loan it out at 20-30%. It's just not worth their time because no matter what their losses are, they'll get it out of someone else, and make it the problem of society. So, there's no logical reason why a good government and a president with good intentions would ever allow orSep 02 18:51
DaemonFC[m]appoint people to do this, or why Congress wouldn't shore up eligibility requirements for loans and to deal with the housing crisis with public housing instead of dumping bank losses onto society as a whole while people go homeless by the millions.Sep 02 18:51
DaemonFC[m]Thanks to people like my parents, who will be victims of their own electoral "success" very soon and are too goddamned dumb to realize it even though they're on the edge of a cliff with a very long fall, we do just keep hitting the snooze button and what happens to real people be damned....Trump (like Bush) have banks to save.Sep 02 18:53
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Some COVID-19 patients now housed at Liliendaal facility - Stabroek NewsSep 02 18:53
schestowitzreminds meSep 02 18:54
schestowitzobama inaugurated jan 2019Sep 02 18:54
schestowitzthe economy crashed due to bush and cheneySep 02 18:54
schestowitzwaste of money on wars could help cushion the masses, insteadSep 02 18:54
schestowitzthe dotcom bubble was differentSep 02 18:54
schestowitzobama forgave bankstersSep 02 18:54
schestowitzbut the damage was largely done by bush/gopSep 02 18:55
schestowitzafaikSep 02 18:55
schestowitzthough it was globalSep 02 18:55
schestowitzwith the us at the front seat of intl bankingSep 02 18:55
schestowitzAriadne is at least doing the right thing; she's working on moving to .NLSep 02 18:56
schestowitznot the first American I know who moves to north EuropeSep 02 18:56
schestowitzthey could use the talentSep 02 18:56
schestowitzNZ apparently causes US "brain drain" tooSep 02 18:56
schestowitzeventually the US is left with militia types to battle is out in the streets for "cult45"Sep 02 18:57
schestowitz*itSep 02 18:57
schestowitzEverywhere in the world, inc. China, covid froze the economic transactions that capitalism depends on to actually function, but some places are hit worse/more badly than othersSep 02 18:58
schestowitzseems like NZ and Iceland did reasonably well... it's easier for them to isolateSep 02 18:59
schestowitz 02 18:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | The Watershed reopens with new 'made in Africa' beauty offeringSep 02 18:59
schestowitzSlow news day todaySep 02 19:00
schestowitzmore so than the average post-covid datSep 02 19:00
schestowitz*daySep 02 19:00
MinceRevery day is better than the next day, at least, that's what you thinkSep 02 19:01
schestowitznaaaSep 02 19:03
schestowitzall relativeSep 02 19:03
schestowitzat the moment we're talking like, ...Sep 02 19:03
schestowitzwhat if a neighbour got evictedSep 02 19:03
schestowitzwould we step in and offer a room?Sep 02 19:03
schestowitzto non-family?Sep 02 19:04
schestowitzthe problem is, in economic downturns everyone suffersSep 02 19:04
schestowitzso "better off" reallySep 02 19:04
schestowitzall relativeSep 02 19:04
schestowitzso Good Samaritans would be shallow and superficial PR stuntersSep 02 19:04
schestowitzMinceR: iirc, DaemonFC[m] was given rare freeze by the motel/hotel ownerSep 02 19:05
schestowitzwhich I think is nice and courteous, but what if the owner herself had major financial catastrophe... like Mandy's sister blackmailing him for money.. the little he earns as a tellerSep 02 19:05
MinceRs/.*/"&"/Sep 02 19:06
schestowitz 02 19:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/ #linuxfoundation works for the #microsoft PR department #greenwashing galore; abolish Linux Foundation. It is CORRUPT. Sep 02 19:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> | Sharing data to help launch the Linux Foundation Climate Finance Foundation - Microsoft on the IssuesSep 02 19:11
schestowitzyuck!!!Sep 02 19:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> | Linux Foundation - TechrightsSep 02 19:11
schestowitz Sep 02 19:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Soulja Boy dance, MIT style - YouTubeSep 02 19:19
schestowitzno more MIT for himSep 02 19:19
schestowitzRMSSep 02 19:19
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I really hope she does freeze our rate. I think she will.Sep 02 19:20
schestowitz 02 19:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Fedora Infrastructure - StatusSep 02 19:20
schestowitz"Service 'Fedora People' now has status: good: Everything seems to be working."Sep 02 19:20
schestowitz\Sep 02 19:20
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schestowitz"Service 'Fedora People' now has status: major: SSL certs issues, we're looking into it"Sep 02 19:20
DaemonFC[m]If she doesn't, might start looking around. The Candlewood wasn't that much more than what the new rate here will be and we wouldn't have leaking toilets and bad neighbors because they just get rid of them.Sep 02 19:20
DaemonFC[m]Conservatives bend the facts around to where even they haven't a clue what they are complaining about.Sep 02 19:22
thddxthey just want those memberberriesSep 02 19:23
DaemonFC[m]They say: "Hordes of black savages who are raping and pillaging will move in on us soon!" and at the same time, "Abortion has wiped out 42 million potential blacks since 1976!". So, let me see if I follow you. You say they're savages and that none of them can read, none of them want to work, and that they're looting, burning, and raping people, and you also want 42 million more of them.Sep 02 19:24
MinceR:>Sep 02 19:24
MinceRmakes senseSep 02 19:24
MinceRit's a lot easier to convince illiterate savages to vote for republicansSep 02 19:24
thddxthat's why all we can do is continue to gain and spread real knowledgeSep 02 19:25
DaemonFC[m]Illinois new Medicaid abortion law caused a spike of thousands more abortions in Illinois in its first full year. Like 3,000 more, and 2/3rds were in the Chicago ghetto. This was before the virus and Trump wrecked the economy.Sep 02 19:28
DaemonFC[m]They won't publish statistics for 2020 for a while, but I'm guessing that people will start signing up for Medicaid to terminate the pregnancy. I would. You could always try again if we ever have an economy that borders on the slightest amount of decency.Sep 02 19:29
schestowitzbad time to raise kidsSep 02 19:30
schestowitzunless you hate themSep 02 19:30
DaemonFC[m]There's uncertainty about the future of our economy, but there's a not so insignificant chance that Trump wins and finishes destroying the lives of millions of Americans.Sep 02 19:30
MinceRand who doesn't hate kids? :>Sep 02 19:30
DaemonFC[m]This isn't the time to be bringing children into a world like that, and I think the statistics will show that I'm hardly alone in thinking that.Sep 02 19:30
DaemonFC[m]The fact that Trump destroyed the economy and could win a second term will cause a wave of abortions.Sep 02 19:31
Narratorto print the dolars granted by other nations oil's production is not economy;-) Sep 02 19:35
Narrator;-)Sep 02 19:35
Narratorit's hard to destroy something not exists ;-)Sep 02 19:36
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DaemonFC[m]My mom uses default as a negotiation tactic. Yeah, it ruins your credit, but.... She'll get medical bills and then not pay them until a collection agency threatens to sue her, and then she'll say "Oh yeah I can pay that if you knock 30% off.".Sep 02 20:32
DaemonFC[m]The way she sees it, you get a $10,000 hospital bill, let it go to collections and pay it when they agree to take $7,000.Sep 02 20:33
DaemonFC[m]It looks bad on your credit, real bad. But where she lives, if landlords didn't rent to people with bad credit, felonies, and other landlords chasing them down, there'd be nobody to rent to, so she doesn't have to worry about how things look to get an apartment there.Sep 02 20:34
DaemonFC[m]I taught her some of my tricks for walking away from small bills that end up on your credit but nobody is going to file a lawsuit (<$400 usually).Sep 02 20:35
DaemonFC[m]Like, dispute it and say you never heard of it before. 80% of the time, the collection agency doesn't respond or can't verify it and it falls off your credit report immediately. Sep 02 20:35
DaemonFC[m]I've walked away from so much debt that it's enough to rent this motel room for almost 10 years. Sep 02 20:36
DaemonFC[m]There's a lot of things you can do to discourage a lawsuit and pry things off your credit report so it'll never be fucking terrible. Sep 02 20:37
DaemonFC[m]Those credit repair companies that charge people money, all they do is dispute everything like you could do for free.Sep 02 20:38
DaemonFC[m]Then 80% of it falls right off and your credit goes up 100 points and people give them rave reviews.Sep 02 20:38
DaemonFC[m]There's nothing I can do to get this bankruptcy off my credit report though because it's a public record from a federal court. It's on there for 10 years. But it took out 18 years of debt that ran into the six figures. Sep 02 20:39
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: If you average out the property taxes that my in-laws pay, it's enough to rent this motel room. That's not with the mortgage, the HELOC they took out to deal with the irresponsible spending, the homeowners insurance, the utilities...the upkeep.Sep 02 20:40
DaemonFC[m]You know, upkeep can be bad. Your furnace goes out, what do you do? That can be a $6,000-7,000 repair right on the spot.Sep 02 20:41
DaemonFC[m]Someone breaks into your house and hurts themselves. They sue you because it's Illinois so why not?Sep 02 20:41
DaemonFC[m]Heating a two story house with a garage and basement when the temperature gets to where C and F are the same.Sep 02 20:43
DaemonFC[m]Not cheap.Sep 02 20:43
DaemonFC[m]I was renting an efficiency apartment in Muncie, Indiana in 2003, and winter came and just keeping the place at 60 degrees took my electric bill up to over $120 a month.Sep 02 20:44
DaemonFC[m]My cousin said she was opening up gas bills for over $550 to heat her house. Sep 02 20:44
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I always laugh at those Portal games. GLaDOS (Genetically-engineered Lifeform and Disk Operating System) got a lot saltier in Portal 2.Sep 02 20:45
DaemonFC[m]One of her taunts, accusing the player of being fat (there were dozens) said, "You know, I'm rebuilding and it's looking....pretty good. It'a amazing what you don't need really. Just trim the fat.".Sep 02 20:46
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DaemonFC[m]I partially solved not being able to use my PowerA Switch Pro controller with Steam.Sep 02 20:55
DaemonFC[m]Turns out that it needed some configuration so that the device could be controlled from userspace, but then it appears to be configured incorrectly as a "generic controller".Sep 02 20:56
DaemonFC[m]The fuck is wrong with Steam where it does not accept PowerA Switch and XBOX controllers?Sep 02 20:56
DaemonFC[m]The licensed hardware is basically the same thing. It's close enough that the consoles know what it is.Sep 02 20:57
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: It's going to be a brutal winter for lots of people.Sep 02 21:11
DaemonFC[m]Newly homeless and no home even to heat.Sep 02 21:12
DaemonFC[m]Government that does nothing for them. Headed by the king of all corrupt morons.Sep 02 21:12
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DaemonFC[m]Watching Trump fidget about the bible for a full minute on Fox.... "They're all my favorite verse. It's a very personal thing?" The guy's like, "But a particular verse?" and Trump's like "They're all really good.".Sep 02 22:00
DaemonFC[m]They're all my favorites too. Especially that part in Genesis (I think) where it spends like 20 pages going down someone's family tree. Sep 02 22:00
DaemonFC[m]The bible is just as relevant now as it has ever been. When I want to win favor with someone I usually go right into their office and dump out 200 foreskins on their desk.Sep 02 22:00
DaemonFC[m]When I wanted to get off probation I just dumped foreskins on the judges podium and said it was my religious freedom and that this should be enough to cover the fine.Sep 02 22:01
DaemonFC[m]She asked me what to do with them and I told her, "Well you could plant them in the ground and maybe have a good harvest this year.....". No pleasing some people.Sep 02 22:03
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DaemonFC[m]I'll definitely play Half Life Alyx at some point, but  this laptop can't handle it.Sep 02 23:17
DaemonFC[m]It'll probably cost $3 by the time I get one that can though.Sep 02 23:17
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