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| DaemonFC[m] | I do like McDonalds occasionally. They sell hamburgers and fries, and every time they veer away from something like that, it ends badly. | Sep 02 00:05 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | They've tried to go upscale repeatedly over the years and it never ends well. They can't break out of what they are. | Sep 02 00:06 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: What about those shawarma-like thingies with the fillings of a hamburger? | Sep 02 00:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Haven't seen those here. | Sep 02 00:07 |
| XRevan86 | * rolls | Sep 02 00:08 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: And uh, chicken nuggets | Sep 02 00:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, those are actually pretty gross when you read how they make them. | Sep 02 00:10 |
| *XRevan86 haven't tried them in eons, and when he did, he did it barely. | Sep 02 00:15 | |
| XRevan86 | not really sure why, I kind of assumed they're pretty gross | Sep 02 00:15 |
| schestowitz | http://status.fedoraproject.org/ | Sep 02 01:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-status.fedoraproject.org | Fedora Infrastructure - Status | Sep 02 01:01 | |
| schestowitz | "Service 'Fedora Packages App' now has status: major: Read the infra status link at the top" | Sep 02 01:01 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | "You know the formula. Comedy = Tragedy + Time. You were asleep for a long time, so I guess I shouldn't need to explain the irony." -GLaDOS | Sep 02 02:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "This next test involves turrets. You remember them. Those pale cylindrical objects that are full of bullets. I'm sorry, that's you in 10 seconds. My mistake." | Sep 02 02:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I'm listening to the soundtrack for A Clockwork Orange. | Sep 02 02:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Seems appropriate these days. | Sep 02 02:23 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: very well... | Sep 02 06:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Between Chicago and Kenosha. :/ | Sep 02 06:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | When Zerohedge writes about an American city having its worst violent crime spree since the 80s and one that's burning to the ground and under martial law and you're between the two. | Sep 02 06:40 |
| schestowitz | Re: When Reid Hoffman @‘s you | Sep 02 06:46 |
| schestowitz | > https://twitter.com/reidhoffman/status/1300833738289373185?s=21 🤣 | Sep 02 06:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@reidhoffman: @philosophybites @stautistic @JoWolffBSG @jasonintrator @B3_MillerValue Thanks for the shout-out, Nigel! How people… https://t.co/mBcXdsvLoa | Sep 02 06:46 | |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 02 06:46 |
| schestowitz | > Sent from my iPhone | Sep 02 06:46 |
| schestowitz | I don't do Twitter anymore (they're just copies), but I decided to drop in http://techrights.org/2020/08/11/linked-in-to-pedophilia/ | Sep 02 06:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linked In to Pedophilia | Techrights | Sep 02 06:46 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: this was predicted | Sep 02 06:46 |
| schestowitz | back in May or so | Sep 02 06:46 |
| schestowitz | evictions wave | Sep 02 06:46 |
| schestowitz | the police murders are partly an excuse or something to latch onto | Sep 02 06:46 |
| scientes | XRevan86, chicken nuggets are a commodity food | Sep 02 06:47 |
| schestowitz | people have legitimate grievances that go beyond the police | Sep 02 06:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: The CDC ordered a freeze on evictions, 60 days after Trump let it expire. | Sep 02 06:47 |
| schestowitz | but the police is viewed as the elite's crushing force | Sep 02 06:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Landlords were in the courts evicting people as fast as they could in places like Indiana. | Sep 02 06:47 |
| schestowitz | now with helicopters, drones, rubber bullets, gassing protesters and journalists | Sep 02 06:47 |
| scientes | XRevan86, like fake cheese (which is made from what you throw out when you make cheese) | Sep 02 06:47 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Are you saying that children nuggets are made out of chicken bones? | Sep 02 06:49 |
| scientes | not bones | Sep 02 06:49 |
| scientes | but pretty much everything else | Sep 02 06:49 |
| scientes | yeah, bone marrow is still thrown away en mass | Sep 02 06:49 |
| scientes | despite being fucking delicious | Sep 02 06:50 |
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| schestowitz | scientes: sometimes if not often/always those nuggets aren't chicken | Sep 02 09:32 |
| schestowitz | they have this ingredient the industry calls 'chicken fats" | Sep 02 09:32 |
| schestowitz | so there's chicken | Sep 02 09:32 |
| schestowitz | or chicken meat | Sep 02 09:32 |
| schestowitz | and then "fats" | Sep 02 09:32 |
| schestowitz | like it's a separate ingredient | Sep 02 09:33 |
| schestowitz | the cheaper type | Sep 02 09:33 |
| schestowitz | imagine buying soap and it says "contains 50% soap fats" | Sep 02 09:33 |
| zoobab | just got a BBB instance to do EUPACO5 | Sep 02 09:33 |
| schestowitz | what does that mean? | Sep 02 09:34 |
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| schestowitz | Blue thing? | Sep 02 09:36 |
| schestowitz | The education platform | Sep 02 09:36 |
| schestowitz | big blue button? | Sep 02 09:36 |
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| schestowitz | new: https://etbe.coker.com.au/2020/09/02/bbb-vs-jitsi/ | Sep 02 09:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-etbe.coker.com.au | BBB vs Jitsi « etbe - Russell Coker | Sep 02 09:36 | |
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| scientes | schestowitz, that is kinda what Fight Club was about | Sep 02 10:40 |
| scientes | schestowitz, but chicken bones do not contain much fat, so what you are talking about must be from the skin | Sep 02 10:41 |
| scientes | which they then call "chicken fat" because that sounds better than "ground and strained chicken skin" | Sep 02 10:41 |
| zoobab | FOSDEM will save the planet: | Sep 02 10:58 |
| zoobab | https://fosdem.org/2021/news/2020-09-01-dates-fosdem-2021/ | Sep 02 10:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fosdem.org | FOSDEM 2021 - Next FOSDEM: 6 & 7 February 2021, online | Sep 02 10:58 | |
| scientes | zoobab, Jesus saves, but George Nelson withdrawls | Sep 02 11:19 |
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| sebsebseb | MinceR: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-53996191 | Sep 02 14:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | Apple more valuable than the entire FTSE 100 - BBC News | Sep 02 14:57 | |
| MinceR | why don't you buy it then | Sep 02 14:57 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR lol no you will, win your Hungarin crime money :D | Sep 02 14:57 |
| MinceR | the oh-so-valuable corporation that can't even produce a usable phone or computer | Sep 02 14:58 |
| MinceR | "you're holding it wrong" | Sep 02 14:58 |
| sebsebseb | they mae loely computers and phones with lip stick on and in them :D | Sep 02 14:58 |
| sebsebseb | make lovely stupid typos | Sep 02 14:58 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: oh Appl oh so beauitful lookking LOL | Sep 02 14:59 |
| MinceR | https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/oil | Sep 02 15:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Oil | Sep 02 15:00 | |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: yeah, i, too love the fisher-price "aesthetic" with drops of colored water on ruled paper or a bad LSD trip | Sep 02 15:00 |
| MinceR | or the toilet seat aesthetic for laptop "computers" you can't use on your lap because they overheat | Sep 02 15:00 |
| MinceR | or the touchscreen phones that look worse than pretty much all competitors | Sep 02 15:01 |
| MinceR | with the "minimalistic" design that has a massive crater on the front | Sep 02 15:02 |
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| sebsebseb | MinceR oh Apple so so cool LOL | Sep 02 15:03 |
| MinceR | is it? they can't even do cooling properly | Sep 02 15:04 |
| MinceR | some early devices of theirs lacked a hard drive because steve "blow" jobs didn't want a cooling fan | Sep 02 15:04 |
| sebsebseb | Yeah it's hypster !!!! | Sep 02 15:04 |
| MinceR | the crApple III melted itself and had to be dropped on the desk (according to crApple) to reseat chips in the warped mainboard or something | Sep 02 15:05 |
| MinceR | yes it is | Sep 02 15:05 |
| MinceR | crApple hipsters suck about as much as microsloth hipsters do | Sep 02 15:05 |
| sebsebseb | Microsoft ones are secretly cooler :D oh Windos 10 oh WIndows 10, with your subys stem for linux thing and son possibly a Linux kenrel in you too instead of the Windwos one ! | Sep 02 15:05 |
| MinceR | well, they've certainly started work in making Linux shitty enough to be usable for the basis of Backdoors | Sep 02 15:06 |
| MinceR | though they didn't need to do anything about dm_crypt, that was garbage from the get-go | Sep 02 15:06 |
| sebsebseb | dm crypt what's that ? | Sep 02 15:07 |
| MinceR | disk encryption subsystem of Linux | Sep 02 15:07 |
| sebsebseb | oh right | Sep 02 15:07 |
| MinceR | probably the worst part, not counting cgroups and that DRM bullshit google added recently | Sep 02 15:07 |
| MinceR | or tried to add | Sep 02 15:08 |
| MinceR | oh, and the hype-V code | Sep 02 15:08 |
| MinceR | and kdbus | Sep 02 15:08 |
| MinceR | but those all came later | Sep 02 15:08 |
| thddx | are there active kernel forks not so beholden to big corps? i've not researched | Sep 02 15:08 |
| MinceR | i'm not aware of any Linux forks that don't exist for the purposes of a single corporation | Sep 02 15:08 |
| MinceR | it seems to me none of the knowledgeable Linux developers are interested in maintaining a working Linux | Sep 02 15:09 |
| thddx | the slow-motion takeover is frustrating to watch | Sep 02 15:10 |
| MinceR | indeed | Sep 02 15:10 |
| MinceR | X is also dying, and seems to be in an even worse state | Sep 02 15:11 |
| MinceR | afaict none of its current maintainers understand it, so they've come up with wayland | Sep 02 15:11 |
| thddx | good thing i prefer the cli | Sep 02 15:11 |
| MinceR | (cat) (audio) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/08/29/2e582f10e19fb460.mp4 | Sep 02 15:12 |
| MinceR | i should have picked a different career | Sep 02 15:13 |
| thddx | likewise | Sep 02 15:13 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: at least Apple provide good custmer support | Sep 02 15:13 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: I been deaing with a partiuclar dutch company for phone last three months and got a reply now that I am a little reluctant to just open up but maybe it will be more helpful than before | Sep 02 15:14 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: LOL | Sep 02 15:14 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: no they do I phoned apple in the past the call centre, was helpful | Sep 02 15:14 |
| MinceR | telling the customer that "they're holding it wrong" and claiming that in general everything that goes wrong is the customer's fault is "good customer support"? | Sep 02 15:14 |
| MinceR | not many corporations i'm aware of have as much disdain for their own customers as crApple | Sep 02 15:15 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: well my experience of this dutch company hasn't been that good so far for cusomter uspport, let's see what hapepns when i open this email hmm | Sep 02 15:15 |
| thddx | to be fair, that is often true | Sep 02 15:15 |
| thddx | re: customer's fault | Sep 02 15:16 |
| MinceR | maybe they shouldn't be so quick to assume it is, though | Sep 02 15:17 |
| sebsebseb | not the experien i had from apple | Sep 02 15:17 |
| MinceR | especially when they do shit like put pins carring backlight power (relatively high voltage) right next to pins that go to the CPU in a relatively unshielded part of a laptop | Sep 02 15:17 |
| MinceR | oh, and when the cheapest shitty batteries they can find keep setting their shitty phones on fire en masse, they call them "isolated incidents" | Sep 02 15:18 |
| MinceR | crApple is one of the sleaziest corporations on this planet | Sep 02 15:18 |
| sebsebseb | Apple love MinceR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | Sep 02 15:19 |
| MinceR | no they don't | Sep 02 15:19 |
| MinceR | they only love steve "blow" jobs and tim crook | Sep 02 15:19 |
| sebsebseb | Apple knows's how much MinceR secretly loves them | Sep 02 15:20 |
| thddx | heh. i've never purchased/used an apple product | Sep 02 15:20 |
| sebsebseb | thddx: oh you bad boy lol ! | Sep 02 15:20 |
| MinceR | i've never purchased one either | Sep 02 15:21 |
| MinceR | i've had the misfortune of using their crap a few times | Sep 02 15:21 |
| MinceR | i don't miss them | Sep 02 15:21 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: uh dind't you get the news years ago, Steve Jobbs died | Sep 02 15:22 |
| MinceR | i know | Sep 02 15:22 |
| MinceR | he died because of his own stupidity, for the most part | Sep 02 15:22 |
| MinceR | the cultists still love him | Sep 02 15:22 |
| MinceR | even the ones he treated like shit | Sep 02 15:22 |
| thddx | i do have a pixelbook which has been a frustrating experience, but i got it knowing i'd eventually be able to wipe it and go full gnu/linux | Sep 02 15:22 |
| sebsebseb | thddx: yeah google ? | Sep 02 15:23 |
| MinceR | i'm hoping someone will make a ryzen 4000-based laptop under 900 g soon | Sep 02 15:23 |
| thddx | yeah, i like the hardware for a portable | Sep 02 15:23 |
| thddx | i get the debugging cable i need to flash a new firmware tomorrow | Sep 02 15:24 |
| sebsebseb | thddx: yeah I got a fair phone which has been a frustraign exepreince trying to get some free head phoens from the networ and then from them, now they are proaly saying in this email that can't get phones, maybe tehy will give me a case instead for free who knows or juts be eh again. I got it so I could wipe android off it and put e/0s on it or whatever, and so itw ould be on the netwrok contract. i could have otherwise if had the | Sep 02 15:24 |
| sebsebseb | moeny at the time just bought full price no phones a e/os version | Sep 02 15:24 |
| MinceR | ThinkPads aren't as good as they used to be :( | Sep 02 15:24 |
| sebsebseb | thddx: I think that's android based seems to be, but more privacy respecting, but can put other things on too | Sep 02 15:24 |
| sebsebseb | thddx: also hardware is meant to be more ethical which is nice | Sep 02 15:25 |
| sebsebseb | but really was just yet another phone to add to my smrart phone colection ! | Sep 02 15:25 |
| sebsebseb | even the one I am mostly using, I still have't put sailfish on it yet since uh | Sep 02 15:25 |
| sebsebseb | so that's still android for now | Sep 02 15:25 |
| sebsebseb | thddx: what you goign to wipe your device with ? | Sep 02 15:26 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR OS :D | Sep 02 15:26 |
| sebsebseb | it's themed to look like Apple | Sep 02 15:26 |
| sebsebseb | but works much worse :D | Sep 02 15:26 |
| MinceR | i doubt i could make an OS work worse than what crApple shits out | Sep 02 15:26 |
| thddx | sebsebseb: arch linux most likely | Sep 02 15:26 |
| sebsebseb | lol | Sep 02 15:26 |
| sebsebseb | thddx: the Google pixel book yeah ? | Sep 02 15:27 |
| thddx | i'm usually a gentoo guy, but probably not on a portable | Sep 02 15:27 |
| thddx | sebsebseb: yeah | Sep 02 15:27 |
| sebsebseb | I dind't know it can run other stuff or maybe i did, but i don't hae one | Sep 02 15:27 |
| sebsebseb | so i don't take much notice | Sep 02 15:27 |
| MinceR | why not void? | Sep 02 15:27 |
| sebsebseb | but yeah was meant to be good hardware sure | Sep 02 15:27 |
| thddx | good hardware wasted on trash software | Sep 02 15:28 |
| sebsebseb | same with APple LOL | Sep 02 15:28 |
| sebsebseb | put Linux on it ! | Sep 02 15:28 |
| sebsebseb | well the os is stil lbeter than windwos for appple | Sep 02 15:28 |
| thddx | i'll reclaim so many resources | Sep 02 15:28 |
| MinceR | crApple's hardware never was good | Sep 02 15:28 |
| sebsebseb | espeically MinceR 's Ubuntu based Linux distro oh yeah ! | Sep 02 15:28 |
| MinceR | lol | Sep 02 15:28 |
| MinceR | what's the point of basing a Linux distro on Ubuntu? | Sep 02 15:29 |
| MinceR | if you want systemd, just use Fedora or rHELL, you're supposed to believe it's the best thing ever | Sep 02 15:29 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: to theme it afer you, lovely photos of you as the backgrounds bhy default | Sep 02 15:29 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: the screen saver even that's by default of you running around | Sep 02 15:29 |
| MinceR | if you want something even more "modern" than that, just use Backdoors10 or crapOS | Sep 02 15:29 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: i just blank/lock the screen manually, i don't really have a screen saver | Sep 02 15:30 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: then when you die the updaetd version can be in memory of you! | Sep 02 15:30 |
| MinceR | when i die, i won't care even this much | Sep 02 15:30 |
| sebsebseb | yep most distros got rid of screesnaers now i thin k | Sep 02 15:30 |
| sebsebseb | since arne't needed as much now or so they say | Sep 02 15:30 |
| MinceR | hopefully i'll be free of this hell then | Sep 02 15:30 |
| sebsebseb | but can optioanl put back the screensavers like i do at times :) | Sep 02 15:30 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: you will get cremated and a memorail stone put in hungary some wehre | Sep 02 15:31 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: in Memory of mincer the guy who said he hated apple but secretly loved them ! | Sep 02 15:31 |
| MinceR | the memorial stone is extremely unlikely | Sep 02 15:31 |
| MinceR | the nazis that rule this shithole do love crApple though | Sep 02 15:32 |
| sebsebseb | thddx wil visit your grave | Sep 02 15:32 |
| MinceR | and they're more likely to have memorials once they kick the bucket | Sep 02 15:32 |
| thddx | MinceR: i'm not really familiar w/ void. i prefer barebones distros | Sep 02 15:32 |
| MinceR | i wouldn't call arch "barebones" | Sep 02 15:32 |
| XRevan86 | Void is not barebones? | Sep 02 15:33 |
| thddx | not w/ system-d, true | Sep 02 15:33 |
| thddx | XRevan86: i'm not sure. is it? i'd certainly consider it | Sep 02 15:33 |
| XRevan86 | thddx: Pretty barebones, yes. | Sep 02 15:34 |
| thddx | i'll check it out | Sep 02 15:34 |
| sebsebseb | the best phone was................... the Ubuntu phones :) | Sep 02 15:35 |
| MinceR | lol | Sep 02 15:35 |
| thddx | i have little need for phones. i have an xperia | Sep 02 15:35 |
| MinceR | i thought those are phones | Sep 02 15:35 |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: xpeira x ? | Sep 02 15:35 |
| sebsebseb | thddx: for you | Sep 02 15:35 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: Incidentally, I have an xperia ray | Sep 02 15:36 |
| thddx | xz1 compact | Sep 02 15:36 |
| sebsebseb | thddx: I got an xperia x I am meaning to put sailifsh os on still at some stage uh | Sep 02 15:36 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: Ubuntu phones orn ow ubports carry it on are good for what they are :) | Sep 02 15:36 |
| thddx | smallest somewhat recent phone i could find a few years ago | Sep 02 15:36 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: what are they? yet another way to be bothered by systemd all day, every day? | Sep 02 15:37 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: oh yeah whoops the grave will also say, and he also loved SystemD more than he would any woman in the whole world ! | Sep 02 15:37 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: SystemD was his beautiful woman mentally ! | Sep 02 15:38 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: who will fund all this bullshit? you? | Sep 02 15:38 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: possibly, will crwod fund and thddx and XRevan86 will donate :) | Sep 02 15:38 |
| MinceR | how will you know where to put the monument? | Sep 02 15:38 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: your goverment have already been syyying on you most of your life there, so they will tell me a good place :D | Sep 02 15:39 |
| *XRevan86 didn't sign anything | Sep 02 15:39 | |
| MinceR | no they won't | Sep 02 15:39 |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: no you just need to donate when it's time :) on the crowd fund for hs memorial grave :) | Sep 02 15:39 |
| MinceR | also, you don't even know an identity they can connect to me | Sep 02 15:39 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: oh they have spys they know about your secret identities too :D | Sep 02 15:40 |
| MinceR | i find that hard to believe | Sep 02 15:40 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR they don't have that much to do in hungary except try and keep a few illegal imigrants out, other than spying on you so | Sep 02 15:40 |
| MinceR | they have plenty of stealing to do | Sep 02 15:40 |
| MinceR | and buying shitty german cars from tax money | Sep 02 15:41 |
| MinceR | and buying shitty crApple products from tax money | Sep 02 15:41 |
| MinceR | and socializing with their oligarchs | Sep 02 15:41 |
| sebsebseb | well with the exceting of thoe things yes | Sep 02 15:41 |
| MinceR | and making up tons of bullshit about "migrants" and "Soros" | Sep 02 15:41 |
| sebsebseb | and some covid stuff more recently too | Sep 02 15:41 |
| MinceR | they don't do much about COVID-19 | Sep 02 15:41 |
| MinceR | they're fucking up the school reopening really hard | Sep 02 15:42 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: uhmm the schools have opended up here ine ngalnd this week | Sep 02 15:42 |
| MinceR | that's probably why we get more new cases every day than any day during the previous wave | Sep 02 15:42 |
| sebsebseb | yep | Sep 02 15:42 |
| MinceR | oh, i forgot, they're also having stadia built that nobody will use | Sep 02 15:43 |
| MinceR | from tax money | Sep 02 15:43 |
| sebsebseb | soros? stadia? what's that ? | Sep 02 15:43 |
| MinceR | stadia is the plural of stadium | Sep 02 15:44 |
| MinceR | George Soros is their current scapegoat for everything | Sep 02 15:44 |
| sebsebseb | yep thought you might of meant statidum | Sep 02 15:44 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: oh yeah hungary needs a stadium or more to attract the world there ! | Sep 02 15:44 |
| sebsebseb | hey look we can do football and such here too | Sep 02 15:44 |
| MinceR | it isn't working | Sep 02 15:45 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Also cultivated here and in Ukraine | Sep 02 15:45 |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: yes nasty RUssia lol | Sep 02 15:45 |
| MinceR | on second thought, the new cases are probably not from the school reopening | Sep 02 15:46 |
| MinceR | those probably won't be detected until ~14 days from the first school days | Sep 02 15:46 |
| MinceR | so this is probably more of the mass events that people who don't care attended | Sep 02 15:46 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: are you nice and masked up there :D ? | Sep 02 15:46 |
| MinceR | i'm not masked, i'm in my own room, alone | Sep 02 15:46 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: alone with XRevan86 keeping you company onlne and me lol | Sep 02 15:47 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: what you think about face masks ? | Sep 02 15:47 |
| sebsebseb | or face coverings as they say here now even | Sep 02 15:47 |
| XRevan86 | https://www.bundesregierung.de/breg-de/aktuelles/erklaerung-der-bundesregierung-im-fall-nawalny-1781790 | Sep 02 15:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bundesregierung.de | Bundesregierung | Aktuelles | Erklärung der Bundesregierung im Fall Nawalny | Sep 02 15:49 | |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: yeh smeone got poinsed apparnatly or sommething | Sep 02 15:49 |
| sebsebseb | poisined | Sep 02 15:49 |
| XRevan86 | Confirmed to be Novichok. | Sep 02 15:49 |
| thddx | is this a new poisoning? | Sep 02 15:49 |
| XRevan86 | thddx: No, this is Alexei Navalny | Sep 02 15:50 |
| thddx | ok. is there a new development? sorry, don't have access to a fully featured browser w/ translation.. only elinks | Sep 02 15:50 |
| XRevan86 | thddx: Yes, a confirmation on the type of poison. | Sep 02 15:51 |
| thddx | the nerve agent? | Sep 02 15:51 |
| XRevan86 | yes | Sep 02 15:51 |
| thddx | the world is heatin up | Sep 02 15:52 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: not sure, but i'm not taking chances | Sep 02 15:52 |
| MinceR | afaik there isn't even a consensus about how small the water droplets carrying SARS-CoV-2 can be | Sep 02 15:53 |
| thddx | i've not been too careful. i only wear a mask indoors, in crowded area, or around symptomatic people | Sep 02 15:54 |
| XRevan86 | thddx: So you haven't been protecting yourself from fresh air? | Sep 02 15:54 |
| thddx | nope | Sep 02 15:54 |
| thddx | i moved to a less dense area so that i could walk outdoors freely | Sep 02 15:55 |
| thddx | also a better vantage to watch the shit show that is U.S. politics | Sep 02 15:55 |
| sebsebseb | thddx: where are you from ? | Sep 02 15:55 |
| thddx | northeast U.S. originally. currently in the mid-atlantic by the mountains | Sep 02 15:56 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: I am avoiding masks compeltly for now, no bus, no phsycall shops online shopping sintead, the only thing that' ashme is there's a good movieo out in the cinema that would hae otherwise wanted to go see etc so hmm | Sep 02 15:56 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: still want to see it, but hmm | Sep 02 15:56 |
| MinceR | well, going to the cinema is a bad idea anyway | Sep 02 15:56 |
| MinceR | masks won't protect you 100% | Sep 02 15:56 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: I went without mask like three four times before had to have there | Sep 02 15:57 |
| MinceR | plus part of the money you pay for the ticket tends to go to the MPAA | Sep 02 15:57 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: altoughp eople can take off for eat and dirnk it seems | Sep 02 15:57 |
| thddx | i went to a chicken wing festival a couple days ago. it was outdoors and not crowded, so i wasn't worried | Sep 02 15:57 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: thddx https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-53996571 | Sep 02 15:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | Tenet gives shot in arm to UK and Ireland cinemas - BBC News | Sep 02 15:59 | |
| sebsebseb | thddx: yep way more covid over there | Sep 02 15:59 |
| sebsebseb | than here | Sep 02 15:59 |
| MinceR | also to SARS-CoV-2 | Sep 02 15:59 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: thddx I guess enough peopel went anyway despite masks in teh UK | Sep 02 16:00 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: thddx sick of this rubbish now too really, got at least another six months yet it seems | Sep 02 16:01 |
| sebsebseb | altough flue gets more deathsi n the uk now it seems | Sep 02 16:01 |
| thddx | i actually don't have health insurance, so i need to rely on good health & resilience | Sep 02 16:02 |
| MinceR | maybe it won't ever go away as long as humans survive | Sep 02 16:02 |
| thddx | i don't like paying into our shit health care system | Sep 02 16:02 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: I just want to get on a bus go down to the city centre, no mask, or excemption car/dlanyard do somethng fun etc | Sep 02 16:02 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: or off some wehre else with reason to meet a girl/woman for example :D on the train no masks etc | Sep 02 16:03 |
| sebsebseb | well maybe for the girl/woman ting :d | Sep 02 16:03 |
| sebsebseb | thddx: yeh we get the NHS in UK | Sep 02 16:03 |
| sebsebseb | thddx: which isn't perfect but better tahn the american system for suer | Sep 02 16:03 |
| sebsebseb | then for those that want to they can get private health care too | Sep 02 16:04 |
| sebsebseb | paid for | Sep 02 16:04 |
| thddx | we can do better | Sep 02 16:04 |
| thddx | we need a reset | Sep 02 16:04 |
| sebsebseb | thddx: well I read the other day that TRmp is heading for president again ! | Sep 02 16:05 |
| thddx | i wouldn't be surprised | Sep 02 16:05 |
| thddx | it's absurd | Sep 02 16:05 |
| thddx | but the dems are stupid fucks | Sep 02 16:05 |
| sebsebseb | they need the Russians to interffer again, hey XRevan86 can you arrange that :D | Sep 02 16:05 |
| sebsebseb | ha ha | Sep 02 16:05 |
| sebsebseb | but make it swing hte other way this time !!!!! | Sep 02 16:05 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: Sure, I can write an angry letter | Sep 02 16:06 |
| MinceR | putler is still pals with twitler | Sep 02 16:06 |
| thddx | make us yo-yo between extremes | Sep 02 16:06 |
| XRevan86 | with poor grammar if that's needed | Sep 02 16:06 |
| thddx | it's a good strategy | Sep 02 16:06 |
| MinceR | just get rid of the state | Sep 02 16:06 |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: we need those russians crackers to mess with the us election again, but you can arrange that :D | Sep 02 16:06 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: Does that even need arrangement? | Sep 02 16:07 |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: yep from you with your inks to the Kremlin :D | Sep 02 16:08 |
| sebsebseb | links | Sep 02 16:08 |
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| schestowitz | [14:57] [Notice] -TechrightsBot-tr to #techrights- www.bbc.co.uk | Apple more valuable than the entire FTSE 100 - BBC News | Sep 02 16:09 |
| schestowitz | No, it is not | Sep 02 16:09 |
| schestowitz | It's a Ponzi scheme | Sep 02 16:09 |
| schestowitz | the financial figures don't represent the fake market cap | Sep 02 16:09 |
| thddx | it'll crash hard at some point | Sep 02 16:10 |
| schestowitz | along with many others | Sep 02 16:10 |
| schestowitz | GAFAM sponsored by Pentagon still | Sep 02 16:10 |
| thddx | but there's a lot of passive investment momentum | Sep 02 16:10 |
| schestowitz | still there are reliable books, decent literature on it, | Sep 02 16:10 |
| schestowitz | US wastes trillions | Sep 02 16:10 |
| schestowitz | for digital dominance, floating these spying giants | Sep 02 16:10 |
| schestowitz | part of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full-spectrum_dominance | Sep 02 16:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Full-spectrum dominance - Wikipedia | Sep 02 16:10 | |
| schestowitz | Google is collecting far more data for the empire https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full-spectrum_dominance | Sep 02 16:11 |
| schestowitz | it also buys off many scholars and community worldwide | Sep 02 16:11 |
| schestowitz | Fascist Nazi blackmails China to give TickTok to his criminals | Sep 02 16:11 |
| schestowitz | and it is not sustainable | Sep 02 16:11 |
| schestowitz | 27 trillion in deabt | Sep 02 16:11 |
| schestowitz | 4 trillion more this year alone | Sep 02 16:12 |
| schestowitz | more than total US GSP | Sep 02 16:12 |
| schestowitz | *GDP | Sep 02 16:12 |
| schestowitz | wait for the whole thing to crash | Sep 02 16:12 |
| thddx | yep. none of that is news to me | Sep 02 16:12 |
| MinceR | https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/entangled | Sep 02 16:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Entangled | Sep 02 16:12 | |
| schestowitz | but then something else that's bad can take its place | Sep 02 16:12 |
| schestowitz | FreeSW is in disarray because of entryism by empire and back doors etc. | Sep 02 16:12 |
| schestowitz | Amazon has just been given approval to fly drones everywhere | Sep 02 16:13 |
| thddx | did they? christ | Sep 02 16:13 |
| schestowitz | Same company that puts CCTV in homes and lets police hot-access those | Sep 02 16:13 |
| schestowitz | Alexa will go above your home, too | Sep 02 16:14 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: I guess the face coveing stuff in cinema doens't matter enough https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-53996571 | Sep 02 16:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | Tenet gives shot in arm to UK and Ireland cinemas - BBC News | Sep 02 16:14 | |
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| schestowitz | it doesn't matter | Sep 02 16:15 |
| schestowitz | they've long been obsolete | Sep 02 16:15 |
| schestowitz | not the masks | Sep 02 16:15 |
| schestowitz | the cinemas | Sep 02 16:15 |
| schestowitz | Hollywood is subsidised partly for brainwash | Sep 02 16:16 |
| schestowitz | and this has been well documented | Sep 02 16:16 |
| schestowitz | the overreach | Sep 02 16:16 |
| MinceR | well yeah, watching movies at home is much more comfortable | Sep 02 16:16 |
| thddx | there's too much exposition in most media, so i don't really consume | Sep 02 16:17 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: for brain wash ??????? | Sep 02 16:17 |
| MinceR | i can see all the pixels, hear all the audio, pause/rewind whenever i want, use audio language and subtitles of my choice | Sep 02 16:17 |
| MinceR | nobody making noises around me | Sep 02 16:17 |
| thddx | MinceR: agreed. i do have a library of the specific things i enjoy | Sep 02 16:17 |
| schestowitz | or farted in 'your' chair, MinceR | Sep 02 16:17 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: weoll there can be that, but when it's quite not many people in cinema it's nice | Sep 02 16:17 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: or got the romo for self | Sep 02 16:17 |
| MinceR | yeah, their chairs are inferior to mine as well | Sep 02 16:18 |
| schestowitz | hey, you can get popcorn out of them | Sep 02 16:18 |
| schestowitz | if you really try | Sep 02 16:18 |
| schestowitz | and if they don't clean well | Sep 02 16:18 |
| MinceR | lol | Sep 02 16:18 |
| schestowitz | sometimes we sneak a pack of nuts in, then eat is quietly | Sep 02 16:18 |
| thddx | cinema s kind of silly to me. it's not an experience that really benefits from a crowd | Sep 02 16:18 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: MinceR well this is the first realy big block buster, they don't heave much new to show crurently | Sep 02 16:18 |
| thddx | maybe a drive-in movie | Sep 02 16:18 |
| schestowitz | healthier than popcorn and doesn't cost $100 per kilo | Sep 02 16:18 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: MinceR it's the stupid mask stuff or i would go wahtch this i think | Sep 02 16:19 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: schestowitz but cineam can be annoing with annoying pepole tehre too yep | Sep 02 16:19 |
| sebsebseb | thddx: we don't really have drive ins in the UK or in most places, but for a little bit they going to do something down the road here, at the former air filed | Sep 02 16:19 |
| sebsebseb | thddx: but those are all old movies really so uhmm | Sep 02 16:19 |
| sebsebseb | thddx: drive in to whatch old films yep sit in your car doing that, and free pop corn from Tesco, the biggest UK super market | Sep 02 16:20 |
| thddx | those are the types of events i'd consider. group outdoor movies usually showing a documentary or something else that begets conversation w/ fellow viewers | Sep 02 16:20 |
| sebsebseb | thddx: also if it's chilly then etc, I guess it won't be that nice, hey waht if it rains too, this thing is outside | Sep 02 16:20 |
| schestowitz | now the incentive to sink money into movies and invest in productions is lower | Sep 02 16:22 |
| schestowitz | so it's a cyclical issue | Sep 02 16:22 |
| schestowitz | the thing is going down the drain basically | Sep 02 16:22 |
| schestowitz | no good movies, no watchers | Sep 02 16:22 |
| schestowitz | no watchers, no investment | Sep 02 16:22 |
| schestowitz | netflix I heard... that at some point was losing money, perhaps still is | Sep 02 16:23 |
| thddx | good. 95% of the content is trash | Sep 02 16:23 |
| schestowitz | as so many companies have crooked CFOs and are de facto pyramid schemes with NDAs hard to know... | Sep 02 16:23 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: thddx uh tennet i a good movie and unhinged but that's about all they got to show that's new currently | Sep 02 16:23 |
| MinceR | netfucks had a hand in killing the open web | Sep 02 16:23 |
| MinceR | so they deserve to go down as well | Sep 02 16:23 |
| schestowitz | Tesla and Uber are still around... making unbelievable losses with no end to the losses in sight | Sep 02 16:23 |
| schestowitz | Twitter ran in losses for like 12 years | Sep 02 16:24 |
| thddx | MinceR: yes, i did not forget about that legislation | Sep 02 16:24 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: let's hope they taken down hollywood with them | Sep 02 16:24 |
| thddx | when i tell people i don't use streaming services, they don't understand | Sep 02 16:24 |
| schestowitz | streaming is expensive | Sep 02 16:24 |
| schestowitz | you need many network engineers | Sep 02 16:24 |
| schestowitz | they're not cheap | Sep 02 16:24 |
| schestowitz | you send like 5GB across a pipe for $2 in revenue | Sep 02 16:25 |
| thddx | indeed. i've run a small streaming server and it consumes | Sep 02 16:25 |
| schestowitz | stroage servers | Sep 02 16:25 |
| thddx | i prefer to stay in my nice isolated LAN | Sep 02 16:25 |
| schestowitz | packets, security, firewalling, switching... | Sep 02 16:25 |
| schestowitz | plus staff | Sep 02 16:25 |
| schestowitz | at $100k+ per year | Sep 02 16:25 |
| schestowitz | I often wonder if YouTube is profitable | Sep 02 16:26 |
| schestowitz | I think google is | Sep 02 16:26 |
| schestowitz | the ads | Sep 02 16:26 |
| schestowitz | not sure if ads in youtube have been enough | Sep 02 16:26 |
| schestowitz | they employ an army of moderators and pay fines | Sep 02 16:26 |
| schestowitz | US will keep itafloat | Sep 02 16:26 |
| schestowitz | they censor for empeire | Sep 02 16:26 |
| schestowitz | and flag/remove anything not supporting imperial narrative | Sep 02 16:27 |
| schestowitz | but for how long? It's EXPENSIVE! | Sep 02 16:27 |
| smnthermes | Maybe people should write articles with more frequency than videos | Sep 02 16:41 |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: https://abc.xyz/investor/static/pdf/2019Q4_alphabet_earnings_release.pdf?cache=05bd9fe Alphabet that is google parent of course put YouTube income from advertisement at 15 billion. | Sep 02 16:45 |
| oiaohm | So yes currently if you believe the reports YouTube is profitable. Of course with more restrictions and fines this may not remain the case. | Sep 02 16:47 |
| schestowitz | revenue or income? | Sep 02 16:48 |
| schestowitz | if they employ like 10,000 people inc. moderators and pay some people to act as "producers" and "partners" (as they do), then you're looking into billions spent | Sep 02 16:48 |
| schestowitz | how many? Don't know... | Sep 02 16:48 |
| schestowitz | (and i don't trust them, either) | Sep 02 16:48 |
| thddx | behavioral control is more valuable than $$ | Sep 02 16:50 |
| thddx | i see the normalization throughout my social bubbles. the slow creep of conformism. hand-waving away unethical behavior & intentions | Sep 02 16:53 |
| schestowitz | true | Sep 02 16:55 |
| thddx | climate pressure will eventually break the spell | Sep 02 16:57 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: Traffic Acquisition Costs (TAC) in those numbers is 8 billion in costs for all their services. So Youtube income from advertisement 4Q 2019 being 15 billion is 7 billion more than costs for everything in internet services. Really google has to be bleeding a lot into uber and the like. | Sep 02 17:00 |
| thddx | eventual de-pop is probably a core reason gov't is so invested in tech. to better direct public perception & and fallout | Sep 02 17:01 |
| oiaohm | https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2020/05/doordash-pizza-arbitrage-shows-the-fubar-economics-of-delivery-apps/ Alphabet/google runs a lot of busienss that are money pits by the provided numbers. Youtube is not one of those. Yes uber eats is a mega black hole. | Sep 02 17:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2020/05/doordash-pizza-arbitrage-shows-the-fubar-economics-of-delivery-apps/ ) | Sep 02 17:04 | |
| oiaohm | There are a lot of things like Australian regulatators wanting to push for google and facebook to pay for news content. | Sep 02 17:08 |
| oiaohm | Youtube and Google search are at the moment profitable for alphabet but with enough governments messing with that segment those may not be that profitable long term and with all the alphabet blackholes things could go really bad really quickly. | Sep 02 17:09 |
| scientes | oiaohm, dude, Google is highly tied to the state dept. | Sep 02 17:27 |
| scientes | their engineers, not so much | Sep 02 17:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2020-09-01/amazon-drivers-are-hanging-smartphones-in-trees-to-get-more-work | Sep 02 17:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Things have gotten so bad under Trump that desperate people trying to get low paying gig work from Amazon have atarted hanging cell phones on trees so that they increase their chances of getting low paying delivery jobs that pay less than minimum wage. | Sep 02 17:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Amazon got the "Tax Cuts" and then they cut "Jobs" like most companies that did because Trump's failed presidency is all an Act. | Sep 02 17:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bloomberg.com | Amazon Drivers Are Hanging Smartphones in Trees to Get More Work | Sep 02 17:43 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz | Sep 02 17:43 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: I linked to that earlier | Sep 02 18:10 |
| schestowitz | someone sent it to me from Scandinavia | Sep 02 18:10 |
| schestowitz | the US has a serious economic issue right now | Sep 02 18:11 |
| schestowitz | saw about 6 articles about it today alone | Sep 02 18:11 |
| schestowitz | the problem is, they spread this problem here | Sep 02 18:11 |
| schestowitz | Uber and stuff | Sep 02 18:11 |
| schestowitz | the "gig economy" BS | Sep 02 18:11 |
| schestowitz | We need to decline and reject that | Sep 02 18:11 |
| schestowitz | those American multinationals pay nothing in tax and offer NOTHING of value to us | Sep 02 18:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I told my dad that if it gets much worse here the wall will be to keep us in and they will shoot at people for trying to leave. | Sep 02 18:11 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: East germany | Sep 02 18:12 |
| schestowitz | ruled by soviets | Sep 02 18:12 |
| schestowitz | Trump is "a fan" | Sep 02 18:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Canada has a problem with Coronavirus. Them shutting down the border has little to do with that and more to do with people taking bitcoin wallets and living there and paying for things with cash. | Sep 02 18:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: You can tell them you're driving to Alaska and then not go Alaska. | Sep 02 18:12 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: ask him how many thetans it costs to leave | Sep 02 18:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Mom and dad think Social Security will keep going with 30% unemployment and no payroll tax. | Sep 02 18:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They both think the economy is great because the shit hasn't hit them yet. | Sep 02 18:14 |
| schestowitz | it is starting from the bottom | Sep 02 18:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They don't think even 1 or 2 years ahead, Roy. It's terrifying. | Sep 02 18:14 |
| schestowitz | the rich are last to be fed to the lions | Sep 02 18:14 |
| schestowitz | or burned at the stake by the 50% who have no income | Sep 02 18:14 |
| schestowitz | we never finished the 2007/8 economic crisis | Sep 02 18:15 |
| schestowitz | we pressed "remind me later" | Sep 02 18:15 |
| schestowitz | or kicked the can down the road with another round of financial bubble | Sep 02 18:15 |
| schestowitz | now claims that apple is worth two trillion, which is HI-LAAARIOUS | Sep 02 18:15 |
| schestowitz | my dad laughs so hard | Sep 02 18:15 |
| schestowitz | all those companies that claim to be worth 10 times what they are | Sep 02 18:15 |
| schestowitz | and... | Sep 02 18:15 |
| thddx | oh yeah. deferring the correction only to cause a massive, hard collapse | Sep 02 18:15 |
| schestowitz | some that are worse than useless | Sep 02 18:16 |
| schestowitz | like uber and tesla | Sep 02 18:16 |
| schestowitz | which show nothing but losses and losses | Sep 02 18:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Apple makes expensive cell phones and somehow has a market cap larger than the entire Russel 2000, which is 2,000 small and midcap stocks. This is nothing more than Trump and the Fed jerry rigging everything and buying the shit out of Apple stock and loading them up with cheap debt directly from the "lender of last resort" so that they can do share buybacks that make Tim Cook richer, while most Americans get | Sep 02 18:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | absolutely no help at all. | Sep 02 18:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Also, Apple's market share for expensive cell phones is dwindling and their stock is "going up", which should rightly be impossible since they haven't had a product in years. | Sep 02 18:19 |
| schestowitz | ponzi | Sep 02 18:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Their market share for their flagship product is in a death spiral because 50% of Americans aren't paying....can't pay their mortgage, auto loan, rent, medical bills, and credit cards. Again, no help at all from Trump. Totally useless. | Sep 02 18:20 |
| schestowitz | it's valuable because it's valuable because it's valuable | Sep 02 18:20 |
| schestowitz | until the whose premise fails | Sep 02 18:20 |
| schestowitz | then it starts cascading like banks with loans that could not be paid back | Sep 02 18:20 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: you need a iPad | Sep 02 18:21 |
| schestowitz | it goes with the trailer | Sep 02 18:21 |
| schestowitz | or the old car | Sep 02 18:21 |
| schestowitz | that you sleep in | Sep 02 18:21 |
| schestowitz | be classy with well-lit "Apple" logo | Sep 02 18:21 |
| thddx | passive investment feedback loops | Sep 02 18:21 |
| schestowitz | who needs a bed and a loo anyway? | Sep 02 18:21 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: ask Mandy | Sep 02 18:22 |
| thddx | retirement accounts | Sep 02 18:22 |
| schestowitz | in Tondo some people choose a "Smart" phone (class symbol) over stuff like food and medicine | Sep 02 18:22 |
| schestowitz | thddx: pension funds | Sep 02 18:22 |
| schestowitz | prospective, promises | Sep 02 18:22 |
| thddx | indeed | Sep 02 18:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | No, I really don't. You can't eat an iPad and the idiots who are stacked 500 deep to buy one with their stimulus check, that Trump signed like an idiot. 'Here, I destroyed the economy and you'll be permanently unemployed. Here's a thousand dollars once! DERP! Oh, I signed it. Vote for me!'.....they'll figure it out. | Sep 02 18:22 |
| schestowitz | you break the promises | Sep 02 18:22 |
| schestowitz | and then carve more money off them, deflating the currency etc. | Sep 02 18:23 |
| schestowitz | in zimbabwe right now purchasing power fell 90% | Sep 02 18:23 |
| schestowitz | so people ca barely buy food | Sep 02 18:23 |
| schestowitz | with same salary, job | Sep 02 18:23 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: MinceR thddx DaemonFC[m] yep Fiar phone support not impressed ! | Sep 02 18:23 |
| schestowitz | some desperately cross the border to South Africa | Sep 02 18:23 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: food is overrated anyway :-) | Sep 02 18:25 |
| schestowitz | unless you duffer malnutrition (not funny actually, to some it's not a choice) | Sep 02 18:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | What they need to do is file bankruptcy. My old landlord in Huntington, IN ran a rocket docket on the court to evict over three dozen renters of his (in a town of 14,000) between Indiana letting their eviction freeze expire and Trump actually implementing a new federal one yesterday. Assuming it's even real and not just smoke and mirrors like most of Trump's "executive actions", they could have paid $350 to file | Sep 02 18:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | bankruptcy the day before the eviction proceeding, print it out, show the state court judge (who would have to freeze the eviction), and then motion to withdraw the bankruptcy. That only gets you barred from filing again for 60 days. Then if Trump lets the freeze expire on January 1st, file bankruptcy for realsies the day before court. You could keep the landlord tied up until next May trying to get rid of you. But d | Sep 02 18:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | you think any of those people are that smart? Trump slow walked this so that as many people as possible would be evicted first. | Sep 02 18:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Bankruptcy stay is federal law, Indiana judges and the Indiana Governor have no say over that. | Sep 02 18:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Here in Illinois, the state eviction freeze never expired. | Sep 02 18:30 |
| thddx | i fully expect to be homeless eventually | Sep 02 18:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The only reason Trump might care about optics is the election. Once it's over with, whether he wins or loses, he'll totally forget about everyone who needs a home and some food. He only barely cares right now. | Sep 02 18:31 |
| schestowitz | good | Sep 02 18:32 |
| schestowitz | Mandy got promoted | Sep 02 18:32 |
| schestowitz | and people still need food | Sep 02 18:32 |
| schestowitz | food outside is a luxury fewer will be able to afford | Sep 02 18:32 |
| schestowitz | thddx: many are politically homeless | Sep 02 18:32 |
| schestowitz | or orphaned | Sep 02 18:32 |
| schestowitz | nobody to vote for who actually works for the general public | Sep 02 18:32 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: he won't lose a pulse/stroke over it | Sep 02 18:32 |
| schestowitz | or will he? | Sep 02 18:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, they did rush him to the hospital last year and then said it was a routine physical. I normally fly by helicopter in a panic over a routine physical. Anyway, Trump dying in office isn't something to root for, only because of Mike Pence. The governor of Indiana who governed over an AIDS epidemic and "prayed about it". Fucking useless piece of shit. | Sep 02 18:34 |
| schestowitz | many homeless + many empty homes = rebellion guaranteed, class rebellion | Sep 02 18:34 |
| thddx | no doubt | Sep 02 18:34 |
| schestowitz | [18:34] <DaemonFC[m]> Well, they did rush him to the hospital last year and then said it was a routine physical. | Sep 02 18:34 |
| schestowitz | So did HRC | Sep 02 18:34 |
| schestowitz | unless a video was floated | Sep 02 18:34 |
| schestowitz | where she basically gets seen... collapsing... thrown like a piece of meat into the van | Sep 02 18:35 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: social distancing not a problem at the gym | Sep 02 18:36 |
| schestowitz | pool empty | Sep 02 18:36 |
| schestowitz | gym empty | Sep 02 18:36 |
| schestowitz | changing rooms empty | Sep 02 18:37 |
| schestowitz | social distancing @ infinity | Sep 02 18:37 |
| schestowitz | but as a business they're not financially sustainable | Sep 02 18:37 |
| schestowitz | 10 covid deaths here today | Sep 02 18:38 |
| schestowitz | 3 yesterday | Sep 02 18:38 |
| schestowitz | 2 and 1 prior days | Sep 02 18:38 |
| schestowitz | so many 20-30 dead a week | Sep 02 18:39 |
| schestowitz | mostly people over 70 | Sep 02 18:39 |
| schestowitz | but town is quiet | Sep 02 18:39 |
| schestowitz | many businesses shut | Sep 02 18:39 |
| schestowitz | office buildings, parking lot | Sep 02 18:39 |
| schestowitz | people stay at home more | Sep 02 18:39 |
| schestowitz | no spendings | Sep 02 18:39 |
| schestowitz | and eateries don't get enough income to pay even utility bills | Sep 02 18:39 |
| schestowitz | not sure how it all ends... | Sep 02 18:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | America is just one big game of So Long, Sucker now. | Sep 02 18:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | John Forbes Nash would be proud. | Sep 02 18:42 |
| thddx | yeah, it's terrible. everyone is sprinting toward some imaginary finishing line | Sep 02 18:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So Long, Sucker isn't entirely original. | Sep 02 18:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Monopoly was created by a socialist to highlight how awful Capitalism is. | Sep 02 18:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | One person makes off with all the money and property and forces all the other players into bankruptcy. | Sep 02 18:45 |
| thddx | we didn't get the memo. or, we didn't retain the knowledge | Sep 02 18:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Each trip around the board, you know, you collect a tiny paycheck that can't possibly last another trip around the board unless you roll a perfect combination that's almost impossible. | Sep 02 18:45 |
| thddx | it's too easy to redefine, weaponize, and spray scary words into the public sphere | Sep 02 18:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The only way to win is get lucky and invest in screwing the other players as hard as you can. | Sep 02 18:46 |
| thddx | rather than, you know, strategically allocating human capital and resources | Sep 02 18:46 |
| schestowitz | china does this better | Sep 02 18:47 |
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| schestowitz | but at the expense of human rights | Sep 02 18:47 |
| thddx | yeah, it seems the optimal answer is somewhere inbetween | Sep 02 18:48 |
| schestowitz | I wonder if China has telemarketers and robocallers | Sep 02 18:48 |
| schestowitz | I never heard of that | Sep 02 18:48 |
| MinceR | yeah, red china screws its slaves really well | Sep 02 18:48 |
| schestowitz | but they do spurt out a fair bit of email spam | Sep 02 18:48 |
| MinceR | yay for red china | Sep 02 18:48 |
| thddx | tech, if well applied, could have been and could still be the scaffolding on which efficient prosperity is distributed, but it's looking more like that ship has sailed | Sep 02 18:49 |
| schestowitz | I didn't say china did well | Sep 02 18:49 |
| schestowitz | but for manufacturing it became a powerpower | Sep 02 18:49 |
| schestowitz | first bar none.. but a looong gap | Sep 02 18:49 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: The reason the banks almost never challenge a bankruptcy is because they borrow the money from the Trump Fed at like 0.25% and then loan it out at 20-30%. It's just not worth their time because no matter what their losses are, they'll get it out of someone else, and make it the problem of society. So, there's no logical reason why a good government and a president with good intentions would ever allow or | Sep 02 18:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | appoint people to do this, or why Congress wouldn't shore up eligibility requirements for loans and to deal with the housing crisis with public housing instead of dumping bank losses onto society as a whole while people go homeless by the millions. | Sep 02 18:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Thanks to people like my parents, who will be victims of their own electoral "success" very soon and are too goddamned dumb to realize it even though they're on the edge of a cliff with a very long fall, we do just keep hitting the snooze button and what happens to real people be damned....Trump (like Bush) have banks to save. | Sep 02 18:53 |
| schestowitz | https://www.stabroeknews.com/2020/09/02/news/guyana/some-covid-19-patients-now-housed-at-liliendaal-facility/ | Sep 02 18:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.stabroeknews.com | Some COVID-19 patients now housed at Liliendaal facility - Stabroek News | Sep 02 18:53 | |
| schestowitz | reminds me | Sep 02 18:54 |
| schestowitz | obama inaugurated jan 2019 | Sep 02 18:54 |
| schestowitz | the economy crashed due to bush and cheney | Sep 02 18:54 |
| schestowitz | waste of money on wars could help cushion the masses, instead | Sep 02 18:54 |
| schestowitz | the dotcom bubble was different | Sep 02 18:54 |
| schestowitz | obama forgave banksters | Sep 02 18:54 |
| schestowitz | but the damage was largely done by bush/gop | Sep 02 18:55 |
| schestowitz | afaik | Sep 02 18:55 |
| schestowitz | though it was global | Sep 02 18:55 |
| schestowitz | with the us at the front seat of intl banking | Sep 02 18:55 |
| schestowitz | Ariadne is at least doing the right thing; she's working on moving to .NL | Sep 02 18:56 |
| schestowitz | not the first American I know who moves to north Europe | Sep 02 18:56 |
| schestowitz | they could use the talent | Sep 02 18:56 |
| schestowitz | NZ apparently causes US "brain drain" too | Sep 02 18:56 |
| schestowitz | eventually the US is left with militia types to battle is out in the streets for "cult45" | Sep 02 18:57 |
| schestowitz | *it | Sep 02 18:57 |
| schestowitz | Everywhere in the world, inc. China, covid froze the economic transactions that capitalism depends on to actually function, but some places are hit worse/more badly than others | Sep 02 18:58 |
| schestowitz | seems like NZ and Iceland did reasonably well... it's easier for them to isolate | Sep 02 18:59 |
| schestowitz | https://www.bizcommunity.com/Article/196/182/207868.html | Sep 02 18:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bizcommunity.com | The Watershed reopens with new 'made in Africa' beauty offering | Sep 02 18:59 | |
| schestowitz | Slow news day today | Sep 02 19:00 |
| schestowitz | more so than the average post-covid dat | Sep 02 19:00 |
| schestowitz | *day | Sep 02 19:00 |
| MinceR | every day is better than the next day, at least, that's what you think | Sep 02 19:01 |
| schestowitz | naaa | Sep 02 19:03 |
| schestowitz | all relative | Sep 02 19:03 |
| schestowitz | at the moment we're talking like, ... | Sep 02 19:03 |
| schestowitz | what if a neighbour got evicted | Sep 02 19:03 |
| schestowitz | would we step in and offer a room? | Sep 02 19:03 |
| schestowitz | to non-family? | Sep 02 19:04 |
| schestowitz | the problem is, in economic downturns everyone suffers | Sep 02 19:04 |
| schestowitz | so "better off" really | Sep 02 19:04 |
| schestowitz | all relative | Sep 02 19:04 |
| schestowitz | so Good Samaritans would be shallow and superficial PR stunters | Sep 02 19:04 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: iirc, DaemonFC[m] was given rare freeze by the motel/hotel owner | Sep 02 19:05 |
| schestowitz | which I think is nice and courteous, but what if the owner herself had major financial catastrophe... like Mandy's sister blackmailing him for money.. the little he earns as a teller | Sep 02 19:05 |
| MinceR | s/.*/"&"/ | Sep 02 19:06 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/18916661 | Sep 02 19:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #linuxfoundation works for the #microsoft PR department https://blogs.microsoft.com/on-the-issues/2020/09/01/open-data-climate-finance-foundation/ #greenwashing galore; abolish Linux Foundation. It is CORRUPT. http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Linux_Foundation | Sep 02 19:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> blogs.microsoft.com | Sharing data to help launch the Linux Foundation Climate Finance Foundation - Microsoft on the Issues | Sep 02 19:11 | |
| schestowitz | yuck!!! | Sep 02 19:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Linux Foundation - Techrights | Sep 02 19:11 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pube5Aynsls | Sep 02 19:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Soulja Boy dance, MIT style - YouTube | Sep 02 19:19 | |
| schestowitz | no more MIT for him | Sep 02 19:19 |
| schestowitz | RMS | Sep 02 19:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I really hope she does freeze our rate. I think she will. | Sep 02 19:20 |
| schestowitz | http://status.fedoraproject.org/ | Sep 02 19:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-status.fedoraproject.org | Fedora Infrastructure - Status | Sep 02 19:20 | |
| schestowitz | "Service 'Fedora People' now has status: good: Everything seems to be working." | Sep 02 19:20 |
| schestowitz | http://status.fedoraproject.org/\ | Sep 02 19:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://status.fedoraproject.org/\ ) | Sep 02 19:20 | |
| schestowitz | "Service 'Fedora People' now has status: major: SSL certs issues, we're looking into it" | Sep 02 19:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If she doesn't, might start looking around. The Candlewood wasn't that much more than what the new rate here will be and we wouldn't have leaking toilets and bad neighbors because they just get rid of them. | Sep 02 19:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Conservatives bend the facts around to where even they haven't a clue what they are complaining about. | Sep 02 19:22 |
| thddx | they just want those memberberries | Sep 02 19:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They say: "Hordes of black savages who are raping and pillaging will move in on us soon!" and at the same time, "Abortion has wiped out 42 million potential blacks since 1976!". So, let me see if I follow you. You say they're savages and that none of them can read, none of them want to work, and that they're looting, burning, and raping people, and you also want 42 million more of them. | Sep 02 19:24 |
| MinceR | :> | Sep 02 19:24 |
| MinceR | makes sense | Sep 02 19:24 |
| MinceR | it's a lot easier to convince illiterate savages to vote for republicans | Sep 02 19:24 |
| thddx | that's why all we can do is continue to gain and spread real knowledge | Sep 02 19:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Illinois new Medicaid abortion law caused a spike of thousands more abortions in Illinois in its first full year. Like 3,000 more, and 2/3rds were in the Chicago ghetto. This was before the virus and Trump wrecked the economy. | Sep 02 19:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They won't publish statistics for 2020 for a while, but I'm guessing that people will start signing up for Medicaid to terminate the pregnancy. I would. You could always try again if we ever have an economy that borders on the slightest amount of decency. | Sep 02 19:29 |
| schestowitz | bad time to raise kids | Sep 02 19:30 |
| schestowitz | unless you hate them | Sep 02 19:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's uncertainty about the future of our economy, but there's a not so insignificant chance that Trump wins and finishes destroying the lives of millions of Americans. | Sep 02 19:30 |
| MinceR | and who doesn't hate kids? :> | Sep 02 19:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This isn't the time to be bringing children into a world like that, and I think the statistics will show that I'm hardly alone in thinking that. | Sep 02 19:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The fact that Trump destroyed the economy and could win a second term will cause a wave of abortions. | Sep 02 19:31 |
| Narrator | to print the dolars granted by other nations oil's production is not economy;-) | Sep 02 19:35 |
| Narrator | ;-) | Sep 02 19:35 |
| Narrator | it's hard to destroy something not exists ;-) | Sep 02 19:36 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | My mom uses default as a negotiation tactic. Yeah, it ruins your credit, but.... She'll get medical bills and then not pay them until a collection agency threatens to sue her, and then she'll say "Oh yeah I can pay that if you knock 30% off.". | Sep 02 20:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The way she sees it, you get a $10,000 hospital bill, let it go to collections and pay it when they agree to take $7,000. | Sep 02 20:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It looks bad on your credit, real bad. But where she lives, if landlords didn't rent to people with bad credit, felonies, and other landlords chasing them down, there'd be nobody to rent to, so she doesn't have to worry about how things look to get an apartment there. | Sep 02 20:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I taught her some of my tricks for walking away from small bills that end up on your credit but nobody is going to file a lawsuit (<$400 usually). | Sep 02 20:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Like, dispute it and say you never heard of it before. 80% of the time, the collection agency doesn't respond or can't verify it and it falls off your credit report immediately. | Sep 02 20:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I've walked away from so much debt that it's enough to rent this motel room for almost 10 years. | Sep 02 20:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's a lot of things you can do to discourage a lawsuit and pry things off your credit report so it'll never be fucking terrible. | Sep 02 20:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Those credit repair companies that charge people money, all they do is dispute everything like you could do for free. | Sep 02 20:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then 80% of it falls right off and your credit goes up 100 points and people give them rave reviews. | Sep 02 20:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's nothing I can do to get this bankruptcy off my credit report though because it's a public record from a federal court. It's on there for 10 years. But it took out 18 years of debt that ran into the six figures. | Sep 02 20:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: If you average out the property taxes that my in-laws pay, it's enough to rent this motel room. That's not with the mortgage, the HELOC they took out to deal with the irresponsible spending, the homeowners insurance, the utilities...the upkeep. | Sep 02 20:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You know, upkeep can be bad. Your furnace goes out, what do you do? That can be a $6,000-7,000 repair right on the spot. | Sep 02 20:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Someone breaks into your house and hurts themselves. They sue you because it's Illinois so why not? | Sep 02 20:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Heating a two story house with a garage and basement when the temperature gets to where C and F are the same. | Sep 02 20:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Not cheap. | Sep 02 20:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I was renting an efficiency apartment in Muncie, Indiana in 2003, and winter came and just keeping the place at 60 degrees took my electric bill up to over $120 a month. | Sep 02 20:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | My cousin said she was opening up gas bills for over $550 to heat her house. | Sep 02 20:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I always laugh at those Portal games. GLaDOS (Genetically-engineered Lifeform and Disk Operating System) got a lot saltier in Portal 2. | Sep 02 20:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | One of her taunts, accusing the player of being fat (there were dozens) said, "You know, I'm rebuilding and it's looking....pretty good. It'a amazing what you don't need really. Just trim the fat.". | Sep 02 20:46 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | I partially solved not being able to use my PowerA Switch Pro controller with Steam. | Sep 02 20:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Turns out that it needed some configuration so that the device could be controlled from userspace, but then it appears to be configured incorrectly as a "generic controller". | Sep 02 20:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The fuck is wrong with Steam where it does not accept PowerA Switch and XBOX controllers? | Sep 02 20:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The licensed hardware is basically the same thing. It's close enough that the consoles know what it is. | Sep 02 20:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: It's going to be a brutal winter for lots of people. | Sep 02 21:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Newly homeless and no home even to heat. | Sep 02 21:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Government that does nothing for them. Headed by the king of all corrupt morons. | Sep 02 21:12 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Watching Trump fidget about the bible for a full minute on Fox.... "They're all my favorite verse. It's a very personal thing?" The guy's like, "But a particular verse?" and Trump's like "They're all really good.". | Sep 02 22:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They're all my favorites too. Especially that part in Genesis (I think) where it spends like 20 pages going down someone's family tree. | Sep 02 22:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The bible is just as relevant now as it has ever been. When I want to win favor with someone I usually go right into their office and dump out 200 foreskins on their desk. | Sep 02 22:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | When I wanted to get off probation I just dumped foreskins on the judges podium and said it was my religious freedom and that this should be enough to cover the fine. | Sep 02 22:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | She asked me what to do with them and I told her, "Well you could plant them in the ground and maybe have a good harvest this year.....". No pleasing some people. | Sep 02 22:03 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | I'll definitely play Half Life Alyx at some point, but this laptop can't handle it. | Sep 02 23:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It'll probably cost $3 by the time I get one that can though. | Sep 02 23:17 |
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