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decnetFrom where to where ?Oct 02 00:00
decnet.......Oct 02 00:00
MinceRfrom user to windowing system or other uiOct 02 00:05
decnetYea, spongy mouse syndrome ..Oct 02 00:06
decnetHow do I get the volume to stay the same, when the source volume is different?Oct 02 00:16
decneteg: Low youtube video, turn up volume, start local video, volume at full blast.Oct 02 00:17
MinceRhttps://img.pr0gramm.com/2019/08/29/d549a0d2d4a9fa37.jpgOct 02 00:20
decnetSome setting that will actually detect the volume in the room.Oct 02 00:21
oiaohmdecnet: really currently there is nothing you really can do about that audio problem.   The issue is normally "Dynamic range compression" compression and how it was set.   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_range_compression   So yes just because something sounds low volume or high volume electronically that does not have to be the case.Oct 02 00:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Dynamic range compression - WikipediaOct 02 00:22
decnetLike something that adjusts the screen brightness depending on the light in the room.Oct 02 00:22
oiaohmdecnet: I know this from having run should halls and having to use db meters for people safety.Oct 02 00:22
oiaohmshould/soundOct 02 00:23
decnetDynamic compression should do it, will look it up, thanks.Oct 02 00:23
oiaohmThere are some files that sound low audio that you can turn the volume up on in a sound hall and you can exceed safe db levels and the sound still sound low due to where it in the human audio range.Oct 02 00:24
oiaohmdecnet: its the same reason why the advertisements on tv can sound louder than the main program because the advertisement  can have had aggressive range compression. Oct 02 00:26
oiaohmdecnet: bad part is every video can have a uniquely set to no set dyanmic range compression.   The files that sound low are  normally are more natural recorded without dynamic compression.   Oct 02 00:28
oiaohmA lot of people are surprised to find places like churches and theaters having a dynamic range compression device on their sound system that is adjusted on usage case to make the sound appear louder to the crowd while in fact using a lower volume/db.Oct 02 00:29
decnetPulse Audio + Dynamic range compression ?Oct 02 00:30
oiaohmdecnet: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_range_compression#/media/File:Cd_loudness_trend-something.gif  Note the gif  different time frames have different amount of dynamic range compression applied by default.Oct 02 00:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Dynamic range compression - WikipediaOct 02 00:31
oiaohmYou don't want to apply too much Dynamic range compression either or you will totally ruin the audio.Oct 02 00:32
decnetI know, i tried on some videos that had too much effects that drowned out the audio.Oct 02 00:32
decnetaudio == dialogOct 02 00:32
oiaohmTo be correct different time frames different general level of dyanamic range compression applied.   But in every time frame of production you get outsiders.Oct 02 00:33
oiaohmA good dynamic range compression device in a hall has decompression option as well.Oct 02 00:33
MrGreenFriendoiaohm,  Youtube now has Loudness-Normalization built-in. Much better than the old Peak-Normalization.Oct 02 00:34
oiaohmYes you have rapid change presets at the sound desk.Oct 02 00:34
oiaohmMrGreenFriend: even than that can screw up and push particular vldeos audio higher than it should be.Oct 02 00:34
oiaohmAudio is a true pain in the ass to level mix.Oct 02 00:35
oiaohmYes Loudness Normalization is to blame why some Youtube video the voice is stuffed because the auto guess has screwed up.Oct 02 00:36
decnetI got the effects-drowning-out-the-dialog issue mostly corrected in VLC, no similar options in MPV.Oct 02 00:38
MrGreenFrienddecnet, what option did u use in VLC?Oct 02 00:39
decnetHold on ..Oct 02 00:40
MrGreenFrienderr, use to do DRCOct 02 00:40
MrGreenFriendDRC *should* be easy to do by the end-user, which is why it is sooo stupid that Record companies apply so much DRC/clipping to songsOct 02 00:41
XRevan86kaniini: https://loadaverage.org/kaniini was that registered by you?Oct 02 00:42
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oiaohmdecnet:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal-loudness_contour   most people are not aware we have the db scale and the phon scale.     db is the hardware and sound wave pressure(how likely it will damage ears).     phon scale what on average will sound the same loudness to a human. Oct 02 00:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Equal-loudness contour - WikipediaOct 02 00:43
decnethttps://www.vlchelp.com/fix-movies-loud-music-low-dialogue/Oct 02 00:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.vlchelp.com | How to Fix Movies with Loud Action Music and Low Dialogue VolumeOct 02 00:43
decnetI use a pair of speakers, stops the ears ringing after too long on the earphones.Oct 02 00:44
oiaohmdecnet: ears ringing you need to check the db level of your earphones.Oct 02 00:44
MrGreenFrienddecnet,  if u are talking about movies, low Dialogue has to do with a low center channel (when it is down-mixed -> 2-channel)Oct 02 00:45
decnetI need to have more sense, too much heavy metal at full blast :[Oct 02 00:45
oiaohmPeople always wonder why I use quite cheap earphones.Oct 02 00:45
MrGreenFrienddecnet,  so u should be able to raise the center-channel, in the 5.1 speaker setttingsOct 02 00:46
oiaohmLot of the cheap drivers are not able to make high db even if you set them wrong.Oct 02 00:46
oiaohmdecnet: you can be giving yourself progressive industral deafness by having db too high.Oct 02 00:46
decnetYea, I got the dialog issue fixxed, i want the same actual (as heard) volume on all apps, browser, VLC, MPV regardless of source.Oct 02 00:47
oiaohmThere is a second horrible one on older movies.   Older speakers were not great at particular ranges so when you designed the audio in movies for that you also resulted in the effects being loud on modern speakers as well.Oct 02 00:48
oiaohmWhy because modern speakers are way better in those ranges that use to be weak.Oct 02 00:48
oiaohmWe have a calibration standards for video colors we don't in fact have a proper one of those for audio. Oct 02 00:49
MrGreenFrienddecnet, maybe try VLC 'stereo output mode: headphones'Oct 02 00:49
oiaohmdecnet: time frame of when a video was make will be a important factor.Oct 02 00:50
oiaohmmake/madeOct 02 00:50
MrGreenFrienddecnet,  how did u fix Dialogue issue?Oct 02 00:50
decnethttps://www.vlchelp.com/fix-movies-loud-music-low-dialogue/Oct 02 00:50
decnetHelps with one of those actions with lots of explosions :]Oct 02 00:51
MrGreenFriendoh, okay. goodOct 02 00:51
oiaohmdecnet: that compression there is dynamic range compression.   Oct 02 00:51
oiaohmdecnet: but the problem is that is a per audio setting.Oct 02 00:52
MrGreenFrienddecnet, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sqz5dbs5zmoOct 02 00:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cool Guys Don't Look At Explosions - YouTubeOct 02 00:52
oiaohmI cannot get you away from having to change settings with different audio items.Oct 02 00:52
decnetMrGreenFriend asked about fixing loud effects muffling audio.Oct 02 00:53
oiaohmA lot of people do themselves long term harm pushing earphone and speaker system volume too high  in db instead of adjusting the compression.Oct 02 00:53
oiaohmAdjusting the compression moves the phon value not the db valume.Oct 02 00:53
decnetThe second problem, is how to get the same volume from all devices regardless of the actual audio source.Oct 02 00:53
oiaohmvalume/valueOct 02 00:53
oiaohmdecnet: you cannot.  There there no correction standard.Oct 02 00:54
decneti know, I was just wondering, thanks for the discussion.Oct 02 00:54
oiaohmdecnet: even in db the phyiscall different speaker makes have different sound curves and that is before you get to phon.Oct 02 00:55
MrGreenFriendoiaohm, https://i.imgur.com/HmgopJM.jpgOct 02 00:55
oiaohmMrGreenFriend: that is so right.Oct 02 00:56
decnetI got one better, I once charged a doctor for unhiding the menu at the top of msWord ..Oct 02 00:57
oiaohmA lot of people sell that they can make the sound appear the same on all the devices.Oct 02 00:57
oiaohmWhen in reality due to lack of standard you cannot.Oct 02 00:57
oiaohmIf we had equal to icc profile for audio it might be possible.Oct 02 00:57
decnetI know, it's just on my wish list. First the machine would have to detect the sound coming out of the speakers then adjust all the volume controls on the machine, simples ;]Oct 02 00:58
oiaohmbecause you would have each device make a profile of it output shape then use that to correct incomming audio to everything is right.Oct 02 00:58
oiaohmbut there is no standard like that for audio.Oct 02 00:58
oiaohmdecnet: yep we would need a standard calibration device as well that does not exist either.Oct 02 00:59
oiaohmI know what you are asking for and I would love to have it as it would make my life at times a million times simpler.Oct 02 01:00
MrGreenFriendoiaohm, https://reddit.com/r/AudiomemesOct 02 01:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Audiomemes - Laugh it up, soundboyOct 02 01:00
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oiaohmdecnet: here is the horrible thing.   Lets say I am running a hall presenting something and a work place health and safety inspect happens to be in the hall(they don't tell you they are there) and some sound out speaker goes db too high say hello to 30000 dollar fine here in Australia.Oct 02 01:02
oiaohmdecnet: I would really like a standard as it could save me from fines.Oct 02 01:03
decnetWell, obviously you would take great care in such a situation. Although your average metal head wouldn't notice :[Oct 02 01:03
oiaohmThis also explains why when a person like me is operating a sound desk and someone else touches  the controls I am ready to kill them.Oct 02 01:04
oiaohmI can have spent over 8 hours setting the sound desk inside legal limitations for the presentation.Oct 02 01:05
oiaohmdecnet: your average metal head band is normally the worse to work with they have the idea they need to lift volume instead of adjust compression.   Volume=db on most devices(the thing you get fined for breaching) and compression = modify phon. Oct 02 01:07
MrGreenFriendoiaohm, what headphones do u use?Oct 02 01:07
oiaohmMrGreenFriend: fairly cheap ones from aliexpress.Oct 02 01:07
oiaohmMrGreenFriend: less than 15 AUD.Oct 02 01:07
MrGreenFriend:)Oct 02 01:08
oiaohmI normally go for full ear cover with Microphone.   Not that I use the microphone just makes them simple to put in the right way round quickly.Oct 02 01:09
oiaohmMrGreenFriend: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32950866533.html  this is what I am using right now.   As you can see quite cheap.Oct 02 01:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kebidu High Performance Adjustable Game Gaming Headphones 3.5mm Noise canceling Computer PC Gamers Headset With Mic-in Headphone/Headset from Consumer Electronics on Aliexpress.com | Alibaba GroupOct 02 01:12
MrGreenFriendwowOct 02 01:13
oiaohmUnless you go really expensive wired always beats wireless.Oct 02 01:14
oiaohmMrGreenFriend: wow on what.    How cheap or how good of design?Oct 02 01:15
MrGreenFriendboth  :)Oct 02 01:15
oiaohmI gave up on really expensive headsets a long time ago after I lost 3 sets to having transport boxes put on them.Oct 02 01:16
oiaohmSo near enough came good enough.Oct 02 01:16
decnetgtg ..Oct 02 01:17
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oiaohmMrGreenFriend: yes more expensive sets than I use can give a better range.   For listening to training videos, basic tuning stuff the decent cheap ones are good enough.Oct 02 01:19
oiaohmBeing cheap someone crushes them you don't care too much.Oct 02 01:20
MrGreenFriendyupOct 02 01:22
oiaohmMrGreenFriend: I do have a basic list of features a headset has to have.  1 must have decent cable.  2 that cable better only connect to one side(connect to two sides will break).  3 must have a volume control on the headset not in the lead.Oct 02 01:22
oiaohmand of course must have a mic so I can pick them up in the dark and put them on right way round.Oct 02 01:23
MrGreenFriendu could just put tape/etc on one side, instead of a micOct 02 01:23
oiaohmI want to be able to grab another one off the shelf it one pair breaks and I don't have to change anything.Oct 02 01:24
oiaohmand having the mic adds less than 1 AUD to the cost.Oct 02 01:24
oiaohmThat 1 -4 of my features is in my priority order.Oct 02 01:25
oiaohmdecent cable is more important that most of the other features.   Then cable to 1 side is next important feature,   then volume control then mic.Oct 02 01:26
oiaohmMrGreenFriend: on these really cheap ones I do recommend using a good quality socket /plug combination on a short lead.   There plugs when you are inserting and removing them every day have bad habit of tip snap off because they are not filled.Oct 02 01:29
oiaohmThat is really the only down side of these really cheap ones and those short adapters are almost indestructible.Oct 02 01:30
oiaohmYou get expensive headsets with a lot worse defects.Oct 02 01:31
oiaohmMrGreenFriend: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32870471708.html  << I guess when I said cheap you were thinking these bits of true cheap junk.Oct 02 01:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Wired Gaming Headphone With Microphone 3.5mm Jack Plug Mic VOIP Adjustable Headsets for PC Laptop Desktop-in Headphone/Headset from Consumer Electronics on Aliexpress.com | Alibaba GroupOct 02 01:34
oiaohmThat break in less than half a day of heavy usage.Oct 02 01:34
MrGreenFriendyeh, impressive that $6 headphones are good enough to useOct 02 01:36
oiaohmThere are cases I would spend more.   https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32866789040.html  Like these are tempting if I was in fact using the microphone just to have a microphone offswitch on the headset.Oct 02 01:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Gaming Headphone EasySMX COOL 2000 Stereo Gaming Headset Headphones with Mic Noise Cancelling Headphone for PS4 PC Gamers-in Phone Earphones & Headphones from Consumer Electronics on Aliexpress.com | Alibaba GroupOct 02 01:40
oiaohmReally that is feature maxed out for a stereo headset. Oct 02 01:41
oiaohmOther than mic quality of course.Oct 02 01:41
oiaohmI am not a person who spends more than 30 USD on a headset.  Spending more than 10 USD is exception not the rule on a headset for me.Oct 02 01:43
scientesheh, you can get earphone in bolivia for $1Oct 02 01:44
oiaohmscientes: are those the ones that go in ears?  I can get those for free every long train trip I take.Oct 02 01:45
oiaohmBut they don't take abuse.Oct 02 01:45
scientesyeah, its better to spend $3 or $4Oct 02 01:45
oiaohmLike being stepped on behind a stage.Oct 02 01:46
oiaohmI only have at the monet about a box of 150 in earphones from train trips I don't use.Oct 02 01:47
oiaohmI get rid of them when I get to about 1000.Oct 02 01:47
oiaohmThat is about a 5 year collection.Oct 02 01:49
oiaohmI really should come up with a art piece to make out of them and attempt to sell it as this way they would do something productive.Oct 02 01:50
oiaohmMaybe something macrame made out of earphonesOct 02 01:50
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kaniiniXRevan86: yesOct 02 04:53
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r_schestowitzRe: the fake photoOct 02 05:13
r_schestowitz> Sylvia Plall? (Good article)Oct 02 05:13
r_schestowitz> Oct 02 05:13
r_schestowitz> If you go to LQ theres a link to a medium article by feminist Sylvia... Plall?Oct 02 05:13
r_schestowitz> Oct 02 05:13
r_schestowitz> Friend of Stallman's, says that saying he doesn't support women is false.Oct 02 05:13
r_schestowitz> Oct 02 05:13
r_schestowitz> Also points out that the photo used in the original smear article was fake.Oct 02 05:13
r_schestowitz> Oct 02 05:13
r_schestowitz> Not fake as in the photo wasn't real-- the "hot ladies" comment was written by someone else as a joke!Oct 02 05:13
r_schestowitz> Oct 02 05:13
r_schestowitz> So there is more going on than twisted words.Oct 02 05:13
r_schestowitz> Oct 02 05:13
r_schestowitz> My own instinct: the girl that said she wasn't aware of who Stallman was?Oct 02 05:13
r_schestowitz> Oct 02 05:13
r_schestowitz> A lie. Either way, the "hot ladies" sign (go check out the article) is something false used to blame him.Oct 02 05:13
r_schestowitz> Oct 02 05:13
r_schestowitz> Notable feminists are defending Stallman.Oct 02 05:13
r_schestowitzRMS is like me in this regard. We support equality for women.Oct 02 05:13
r_schestowitzI guess it's easy to twist anything and anyone as "sexist", one way or another...Oct 02 05:13
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r_schestowitzviews/top articles since SundayOct 02 06:16
r_schestowitz8)16833/2019/09/29/fsf-defaced-rms/Oct 02 06:16
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r_schestowitzRe: one for your corporate dictionary> "formality" = corporatisationOct 02 07:30
r_schestowitzFoundation = tax evasion.Oct 02 07:43
r_schestowitz> Foundation = tax evasion.Oct 02 07:57
r_schestowitz> Oct 02 07:57
r_schestowitz> sure, in their dictionary. but i would still change that to "charity" or better yet PHILANTHROPY because "foundation" is a big close to home.Oct 02 07:57
r_schestowitz> Oct 02 07:57
r_schestowitz> target lf, hit fsf. i know you dont mean to, but thats the effect it is sure to have. "philanthropy" is a better match even gramatically.Oct 02 07:57
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r_schestowitz> As someone else rather recently alluded to, and as mentioned in theOct 02 08:46
r_schestowitz> other message, CoC == Malleus Hackerum.  The goal is not to help anyoneOct 02 08:46
r_schestowitz> but simply to shutdown any and all proponents of Software Freedom underOct 02 08:46
r_schestowitz> the false mask of helping someone else because the CoCs always have beenOct 02 08:46
r_schestowitz>  applied very selectively.  This has been shown again and again whereOct 02 08:46
r_schestowitz> ever CoCs have been forced into projects.  But as we see with both RMSOct 02 08:46
r_schestowitz> and Guido Van Rossum, it is possible to kick out the leader without a CoC.Oct 02 08:46
r_schestowitzOk to quote somewhere?Oct 02 08:46
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r_schestowitz> I guess.  It's not profound or insightul though.Oct 02 09:03
r_schestowitzIt >might< fit it with some upcoming article.Oct 02 09:03
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psydroidI have also noticed people steer any discussions in the direction of RMS and the horrible things he has written and away from Gates, Microsoft, Epstein, Intellectual Ventures, Leight Rothschild. As if it has been agreed upon by Microsoft and its sycophants that this is the new narrative to overcome the spread of Software Freedom.Oct 02 09:40
r_schestowitzPossibleOct 02 09:42
r_schestowitzNot sure about the patent aspectsOct 02 09:43
r_schestowitzDidn't see RMS used to distract from itOct 02 09:43
psydroidthat happened in some discussions I hadOct 02 09:49
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psydroidI am getting the feeling that things are badly messed up in the computing industryOct 02 09:49
r_schestowitz[09:49] <psydroid> that happened in some discussions I hadOct 02 09:56
r_schestowitzabout the troll lawsuit?Oct 02 09:56
psydroidsomeone dismissed my links to your articles on Techrights about the GNOME patent lawsuit because of things written about RMS, so they felt the site as a whole couldn't be trusted anymoreOct 02 09:57
r_schestowitzOr gates pedophilia associations?Oct 02 09:57
psydroidthe troll lawsuitOct 02 09:57
r_schestowitzahaOct 02 09:57
r_schestowitzwhich forum?Oct 02 09:57
r_schestowitzmaybe they'd dismiss ANY FS thingOct 02 09:58
psydroidit's Dutch website tweakers.net, which is supposed to be a place where (older) geeks and professionals hang outOct 02 09:58
psydroidbut I see a lot of people who have ties to Microsoft often dismissing anything that is related to free software or trying to convince people to stay with MicrosoftOct 02 10:00
psydroidit's a very grey area for meOct 02 10:00
r_schestowitzthey never cover LinuxOct 02 10:08
r_schestowitznot their English site anywayOct 02 10:08
r_schestowitzI think they did in the distant pastOct 02 10:08
psydroidthey rarely do and I also believe they fear offending their advertisersOct 02 10:12
r_schestowitzthat's how advertising worksOct 02 10:12
r_schestowitzCBS, IDG...Oct 02 10:12
r_schestowitzyou buy ads to pass money, buy silenceOct 02 10:12
r_schestowitzit's the implicit gentlemen's agreementOct 02 10:13
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XRevan86https://pleroma.site/objects/2f9216cb-9695-47ea-b029-74c34024c3ffOct 02 12:00
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XRevan86> There are problems in Devuan right now (I get mails about it), so let's wait until someone has sufficient understanding and courage to speak about that publicly (as in blog posts etc.)Oct 02 12:00
r_schestowitzchecking what about it...Oct 02 12:00
r_schestowitzroio replied to meOct 02 12:00
r_schestowitzI told them it's not so severeOct 02 12:00
r_schestowitzbut from what I heard, they do have some social issues thereOct 02 12:01
r_schestowitzmaybe not a new problem eitherOct 02 12:01
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oiaohmReally I would have though Devuan would have had a blow up before now between those not wanting change and those wanting to attempt to move forwards to something that in theory can work.Oct 02 12:22
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Audiocasts/Shows/Screencasts: mintCast, This Week in Linux, Linux Headlines, LINUX Unplugged and Ubuntu Budgie 19.10 Beta Run Through http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128779 [https://pleroma.site/objects/f228781a-6bd3-432e-8c93-457bd8e317bb]Oct 02 12:23
XRevan86https://mastodon.technology/@bugaevc/102887303482701050Oct 02 12:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.technology | Sergey Bugaev: "@espectalll@mstdn.io @angristan@mstdn.io GNOME do…" - Mastodon for Tech FolksOct 02 12:25
XRevan86> GNOME does work and will definitely keep working without systemd. That doesn't mean those of us who use systemd cannot enjoy some niceties :)Oct 02 12:25
XRevan86That answers that.Oct 02 12:25
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oiaohmXRevan86:   I like how they say keep working.   Keep working in that I cannot restart session started parts safely but when you use the systemd --user option you can and that the niceties they are talking about.Oct 02 12:31
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oiaohmThere is no work to make gnome session in fact work correctly on Linux without systemd.Oct 02 12:31
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r_schestowitzI've put together the code it'll take to restart/resume #techrights IRC logs' publication on a daily basis; used to be daily a decade ago, then weekly, monthly, 3 times per year.Oct 02 13:01
r_schestowitzmaybe we'll start tomorrowOct 02 13:01
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Huawei MateBook series Linux version goes on sale today http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128784 [https://pleroma.site/objects/75b45d1e-018a-4d71-87fd-85c097fb8001]Oct 02 13:27
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Graphics: Panfrost Gallium3D and GPU Offloading http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128785 [https://pleroma.site/objects/39337e50-726d-4777-b0de-69428d557d2f]Oct 02 13:28
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: A Beginner’s Guide To Playing Games On Linux, Part 1: Enjoying Your Steam Library http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128786 [https://pleroma.site/objects/4248e2e2-93bb-458f-8f5b-203fd10e5753]Oct 02 13:31
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Programming: QBSP, Test Software and PHP in Ubuntu http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128787 [https://pleroma.site/objects/88cd7efc-76ab-45e6-9896-6fd426816008]Oct 02 13:34
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MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/ikUoW8V.jpgOct 02 14:22
r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/16135797Oct 02 14:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: After attacking RMS (defamation) to distract from >actual< #billgates #pedophilia scandal #Telcos and Gates' close mate Rupert #Murdoch Pushing nonsense story to deflect to #Google https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20190929/16484543093/telcos-rupert-murdoch-pushing-nonsense-story-that-google-helping-keep-your-internet-activity-more-private-is-antitrust-violation.shtml Oct 02 14:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> Telcos And Rupert Murdoch Pushing Nonsense Story That Google Helping Keep Your Internet Activity More Private Is An Antitrust Violation | TechdirtOct 02 14:33
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sridDoes this channel have a public log?Oct 02 15:06
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r_schestowitzhi Tom-_Oct 02 17:45
r_schestowitzgrz?Oct 02 17:45
r_schestowitzsrid: yesOct 02 17:45
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r_schestowitzsrid: I will do an article about this shortlyOct 02 17:47
Tom-_hi r_schestowitz Oct 02 18:16
r_schestowitzI'm doing an article about IRCOct 02 18:16
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Cairo Dock review - The dock is in the detail http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128788 [https://pleroma.site/objects/cbaf37a8-1185-4d2a-be32-308321ca2189]Oct 02 18:57
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Linux Mint new logo revealed, LMDE 4 to be named Debbie http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128789 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d0b7fc62-4448-4b09-881c-728c8e126aa5]Oct 02 18:59
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6 and CentOS 6 Receive Important Kernel Security Update http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128790 [https://pleroma.site/objects/9354d031-d75e-4cf9-9eb1-ccd03df12b59]Oct 02 19:01
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: First Arch Linux ISO Powered by Linux Kernel 5.3 Is Now Available for Download http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128791 [https://pleroma.site/objects/fe33be8e-e81e-4c54-be59-4b9b3e79ec74]Oct 02 19:07
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: IBM and Canonical work together in financial services http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128792 [https://pleroma.site/objects/e8dd302a-c364-44ef-af81-111d5ade90dd]Oct 02 19:09
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Test Plasma 5.17 Beta http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128795 [https://pleroma.site/objects/1067b00f-53bf-4a0b-82ec-ea5b66198f4d]Oct 02 19:21
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Tiny edge-container platform targets BeagleBone and Raspberry Pi http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128797 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a99d7212-c16a-424e-ad7f-df2ab2fb1bf5]Oct 02 19:24
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128798 [https://pleroma.site/objects/25abc8e8-f071-4e53-9cfd-46db5035fb86]Oct 02 19:35
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/19071029Oct 02 20:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectOct 02 20:03
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Microsoft Surface Duo shows Linux is the future — not Windows http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128803 [https://pleroma.site/objects/985a5317-2617-4f64-accf-143e4f2f5d34]Oct 02 20:57
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: File Commander is an open source file manager for Windows, Linux and macOS http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128804 [https://pleroma.site/objects/bb8f8b5b-b2b3-4f3c-a0f8-3afa7c3519d7]Oct 02 20:57
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MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/630067.jpgOct 02 20:59
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Links 2/10/2019: Huawei MateBook on Sale With GNU/Linux, Release of GNU Screen 4.7.0 http://techrights.org/2019/10/02/gnu-screen-4-7-0/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/e4c4756e-dfc7-451f-94d1-c8ac12c52d9e]Oct 02 21:34
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MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/629813.jpgOct 02 21:53
MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/629698.jpgOct 02 22:44
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MinceRhttps://66.media.tumblr.com/91b68f7a38ab8571d38123fc7f50384e/tumblr_inline_ondwtmcRi61qmhhwm_500.gifOct 02 23:38
*XRevan86 types into the address bar: isitblockedinrussia.comOct 02 23:42
XRevan86> No, tumblr.com is probably not blocked in Russia. Yet.Oct 02 23:42
XRevan86> Maybe. It appears that 66.media.tumblr.com is at least partially blocked in Russia.Oct 02 23:42
XRevan86there we goOct 02 23:42
XRevan86And the URL that justifies the block is 404Oct 02 23:43
XRevan86but who caresOct 02 23:43
Tom-_i find that cat gif amazingOct 02 23:47

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