Join us now at the IRC channel.
| *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) | Nov 02 00:43 | |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/20090424 | Nov 02 01:11 |
|---|---|---|
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4867820) | Nov 02 01:11 | |
| schestowitz | heh | Nov 02 01:13 |
| XRevan86 | This assumes that 50 is a middle age. | Nov 02 01:13 |
| schestowitz | no | Nov 02 01:14 |
| schestowitz | median | Nov 02 01:14 |
| XRevan86 | Every human ever lives for 100 years exactly. | Nov 02 01:14 |
| schestowitz | there are more young people than old, too | Nov 02 01:14 |
| schestowitz | so a good guess would be weighted average of some king | Nov 02 01:15 |
| schestowitz | *kind | Nov 02 01:15 |
| schestowitz | maybe 35 | Nov 02 01:15 |
| schestowitz | I actually though about this some days ago | Nov 02 01:15 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: A good guess will also take other factors into account, and then this joke would just fall apart. | Nov 02 01:15 |
| schestowitz | the context being, what average lifespan for existing human given that there are more young than old, except places like singapore and japan | Nov 02 01:16 |
| XRevan86 | I think a better median value is the average age of every human that's out there right now. | Nov 02 01:17 |
| XRevan86 | Which is 31 according to Wikipedia. | Nov 02 01:18 |
| schestowitz | wow, when you factor in poor countries | Nov 02 01:18 |
| XRevan86 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_median_age#By_population_division | Nov 02 01:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | List of countries by median age - Wikipedia | Nov 02 01:18 | |
| schestowitz | makes sense | Nov 02 01:19 |
| schestowitz | so far, far off from 50 | Nov 02 01:20 |
| XRevan86 | It's good that we've figured out the truth and debunked this joke :D | Nov 02 01:20 |
| schestowitz | should say 30, then 15 | Nov 02 01:20 |
| MinceR | :> | Nov 02 01:20 |
| schestowitz | until it's older, than 45 | Nov 02 01:20 |
| schestowitz | *then | Nov 02 01:21 |
| schestowitz | actuallt that's false too | Nov 02 01:21 |
| schestowitz | you need to study the distribution for these subgroups | Nov 02 01:21 |
| schestowitz | they're not evenly distributed | Nov 02 01:21 |
| schestowitz | it might be 31, then 14 | Nov 02 01:21 |
| schestowitz | and 31, then 43 | Nov 02 01:22 |
| MinceR | for the joke to work, it needs to be likely insulting though | Nov 02 01:22 |
| XRevan86 | There's actually a need for a bit more research, because the query is specifically about a "girl", not a generic human. | Nov 02 01:22 |
| schestowitz | some people want to make girl genetic also | Nov 02 01:22 |
| schestowitz | the genderfluid thing | Nov 02 01:22 |
| schestowitz | a human that "just happens" to have a vulva | Nov 02 01:23 |
| XRevan86 | This won't affect the big picture here. | Nov 02 01:23 |
| MinceR | (cat) https://imgur.com/gallery/1pvHr3d | Nov 02 01:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Caaaaaats! - Album on Imgur | Nov 02 01:24 | |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: true | Nov 02 01:24 |
| schestowitz | anyway, we joke about the joke | Nov 02 01:24 |
| schestowitz | by being overly pedantic about the numbers | Nov 02 01:24 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: That's why it's a debunk ;) | Nov 02 01:25 |
| XRevan86 | because more correct numbers break the punchline | Nov 02 01:26 |
| schestowitz | the joke might age well | Nov 02 01:26 |
| schestowitz | if it weren't for covid | Nov 02 01:27 |
| schestowitz | not sure how life expectancy will change in the coming years | Nov 02 01:27 |
| schestowitz | seeing how excess deaths rise a lot | Nov 02 01:27 |
| schestowitz | it's something like 70,000 in the UK | Nov 02 01:27 |
| schestowitz | Taking all causes and factors into account, e.g. surgeries canceled | Nov 02 01:27 |
| XRevan86 | You rounded 30.9 to 30, that's probably more precise long-term. | Nov 02 01:28 |
| schestowitz | is that figure for female? | Nov 02 01:29 |
| schestowitz | (would be higher than men's) | Nov 02 01:29 |
| XRevan86 | No, that's a pre-cooked figure from Wikipedia. For females specifically one'd need to calculate it oneself. | Nov 02 01:30 |
| schestowitz | speaking of cooking, | Nov 02 01:31 |
| schestowitz | Putin must be cooking some popcorn | Nov 02 01:31 |
| schestowitz | for tuesday madness | Nov 02 01:31 |
| schestowitz | there will be chaos no matter the outcome | Nov 02 01:31 |
| XRevan86 | oh, I didn't notice another estimate, that is actually divided by sex, from 2018: 30.4 all, 29.6 male, 31.1 female | Nov 02 01:35 |
| XRevan86 | "CIA World Factbook 2018 estimate" โ World | Nov 02 01:35 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: It's obvious that one outcome is more preferrable for him than the other, so probably no popcorn. | Nov 02 01:37 |
| schestowitz | the outcome of chaos is OK for him | Nov 02 01:40 |
| *mmu_man has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) | Nov 02 01:40 | |
| schestowitz | and serves to weaken the concept of real democracy, not just in the US | Nov 02 01:40 |
| schestowitz | if not democracy (it's not), at least election | Nov 02 01:40 |
| XRevan86 | The word that Putin uses is "liberalism". | Nov 02 01:40 |
| schestowitz | and respect for fair elections | Nov 02 01:41 |
| XRevan86 | The US is one of those countries where it is very easy to criticise the election system, even without going into concrete details. | Nov 02 01:42 |
| XRevan86 | However, I strongly disagree with the sentiment that this means voting doesn't matter. In a sense, that makes it matter more, because if it's harder to make the voice of the demos heard, then the demos should express it louder. | Nov 02 01:44 |
| XRevan86 | There are two counterexamples though: the 2020 Putin referendum and the Zelensky's October "5 questions" national poll. | Nov 02 01:46 |
| MinceR | with rifles, from the rooftop | Nov 02 01:46 |
| XRevan86 | I don't give a shit about who went and voted (and voted how) in these twoโฆ events. | Nov 02 01:47 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: London had missile launchers | Nov 02 01:50 |
| schestowitz | during the Olympic Games | Nov 02 01:50 |
| MinceR | even better, if the people can afford them | Nov 02 01:51 |
| schestowitz | They can, as taxpayers | Nov 02 01:51 |
| schestowitz | London even bought water cannons | Nov 02 01:51 |
| schestowitz | "Boris" bought those | Nov 02 01:51 |
| schestowitz | Khan sold them | Nov 02 01:51 |
| schestowitz | for "crowd control" | Nov 02 01:51 |
| schestowitz | "Boris" and Agent Orange like squirting | Nov 02 01:52 |
| MinceR | BoJo the clown | Nov 02 01:53 |
| schestowitz | that's a compliment | Nov 02 01:54 |
| schestowitz | he's a lot worse than clowns | Nov 02 01:54 |
| MinceR | :> | Nov 02 01:54 |
| schestowitz | clowns don't fail so many people who die | Nov 02 01:54 |
| MinceR | BoJo the idiot circus boy? | Nov 02 01:54 |
| MinceR | https://blood-wiki.org/images/c/cb/Jo-Jo-Add.png | Nov 02 01:55 |
| schestowitz | bojo the boTcher | Nov 02 01:55 |
| schestowitz | butcher who botches everything | Nov 02 01:55 |
| schestowitz | and then acts like, "oops, that was funny" | Nov 02 01:55 |
| XRevan86 | So every US citizen who has the right to vote should voteโฆ for the stable genius to make my glorious leader happy and help further the imperial ambitions of my mother country. Every bit counts, if you don't chip in, he might very well lose. | Nov 02 01:55 |
| MinceR | :> | Nov 02 01:55 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: even when he loses he claims he "won" | Nov 02 01:56 |
| schestowitz | and I can guess cops and army are on his side | Nov 02 01:56 |
| schestowitz | because it's a failed state | Nov 02 01:56 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: If he's the only one who agrees on that he won, I don't think the rest of the world would actually care. | Nov 02 01:56 |
| schestowitz | with nazi-like mindset in key positions with arms and authority to shoot | Nov 02 01:56 |
| XRevan86 | I don't think the US is in Belarus' yet. | Nov 02 01:57 |
| schestowitz | Mela-rus | Nov 02 01:58 |
| XRevan86 | I'd be very surprised if Alexonald Trumposhenko will actually manage to successfully stage a coup. | Nov 02 01:59 |
| schestowitz | COVIDemented | Nov 02 01:59 |
| XRevan86 | I think his hints that he might try that are just another sign of his delusions. | Nov 02 02:03 |
| *psydread (eace4d91cc@2a01:7c8:aab8:6b9:5054:ff:fec9:fd84) has left #techrights | Nov 02 02:03 | |
| XRevan86 | I want him to try and I want to see footage of guards forcibly removing him from the White House :). | Nov 02 02:04 |
| XRevan86 | It could also be a sign that he's afraid that after he loses presidency he'll get sued for all the crap he's done. | Nov 02 02:07 |
| XRevan86 | then long shots might not look too risky | Nov 02 02:07 |
| *psydread (eace4d91cc@2a01:7c8:aab8:6b9:5054:ff:fec9:fd84) has joined #techrights | Nov 02 02:10 | |
| *swaggboi has quit (Quit: C-x C-c) | Nov 02 02:19 | |
| *psydread (eace4d91cc@2a01:7c8:aab8:6b9:5054:ff:fec9:fd84) has left #techrights | Nov 02 02:22 | |
| *swaggboi (~swaggboi@slackware.uk/supporter/swaggboi) has joined #techrights | Nov 02 02:43 | |
| *psydread (eace4d91cc@2a01:7c8:aab8:6b9:5054:ff:fec9:fd84) has joined #techrights | Nov 02 02:43 | |
| *rianne__ has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | Nov 02 03:02 | |
| *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-169-118.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Nov 02 03:02 | |
| *psydread (eace4d91cc@2a01:7c8:aab8:6b9:5054:ff:fec9:fd84) has left #techrights | Nov 02 05:23 | |
| *inky (~norayr@178.78.148.86) has joined #techrights | Nov 02 05:34 | |
| *psydread (eace4d91cc@2a01:7c8:aab8:6b9:5054:ff:fec9:fd84) has joined #techrights | Nov 02 06:06 | |
| *psydread (eace4d91cc@2a01:7c8:aab8:6b9:5054:ff:fec9:fd84) has left #techrights | Nov 02 06:12 | |
| *psydread (eace4d91cc@2a01:7c8:aab8:6b9:5054:ff:fec9:fd84) has joined #techrights | Nov 02 06:20 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #LinuxMint pre-loads Chromium and Brings New IPTV Player โข ๐ฟ๐๐ ๐ธ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ โ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143915 [https://pleroma.site/objects/2ca9036d-4ac3-4bc1-874b-38e82cf780f8] | Nov 02 06:32 | |
| *psydread (eace4d91cc@2a01:7c8:aab8:6b9:5054:ff:fec9:fd84) has left #techrights | Nov 02 06:33 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Linux 5.8 Reaches End Of Life: Hereโs How To Upgrade To Linux 5.9 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143912#comment-26980 [https://pleroma.site/objects/6e4e837e-f03a-4b05-a5b0-1f22c12d9750] | Nov 02 06:39 | |
| *psydread (eace4d91cc@2a01:7c8:aab8:6b9:5054:ff:fec9:fd84) has joined #techrights | Nov 02 06:40 | |
| *psydread (eace4d91cc@2a01:7c8:aab8:6b9:5054:ff:fec9:fd84) has left #techrights | Nov 02 06:46 | |
| *psydread (eace4d91cc@2a01:7c8:aab8:6b9:5054:ff:fec9:fd84) has joined #techrights | Nov 02 07:10 | |
| *psydread (eace4d91cc@2a01:7c8:aab8:6b9:5054:ff:fec9:fd84) has left #techrights | Nov 02 07:17 | |
| *psydread (eace4d91cc@2a01:7c8:aab8:6b9:5054:ff:fec9:fd84) has joined #techrights | Nov 02 07:25 | |
| *psydread (eace4d91cc@2a01:7c8:aab8:6b9:5054:ff:fec9:fd84) has left #techrights | Nov 02 07:31 | |
| *psydread (eace4d91cc@2a01:7c8:aab8:6b9:5054:ff:fec9:fd84) has joined #techrights | Nov 02 07:48 | |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | > I wonder if the ipfs extension vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx urged me to add caused part of that.. | Nov 02 08:43 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | If it's an issue, just bin it. You can just use the CLI. | Nov 02 08:43 |
| schestowitz | I put that offline for now | Nov 02 08:53 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | For kirc, on this host, with `sudo pmap 917 | tail -n 1`, I get 2756KB. | Nov 02 09:00 |
| *mmu_man (~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net) has joined #techrights | Nov 02 09:00 | |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | `sudo pmap PID | tail -n 1` is a convenient way to get a quick idea of what's going on with memory. | Nov 02 09:01 |
| schestowitz | task: ... | Nov 02 09:09 |
| schestowitz | find out what OS SFD staff is using | Nov 02 09:09 |
| schestowitz | SFC | Nov 02 09:09 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | What's SFC? | Nov 02 09:09 |
| schestowitz | Software Freedom Conservancy | Nov 02 09:10 |
| schestowitz | find meta in pdfs | Nov 02 09:10 |
| schestowitz | might be intersting | Nov 02 09:10 |
| schestowitz | might be interesting | Nov 02 09:10 |
| schestowitz | I am working on an article about them | Nov 02 09:10 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I actually bumped into their site while I was looking stuff up a week or two ago. | Nov 02 09:11 |
| schestowitz | can you look fro hints about software usage? | Nov 02 09:11 |
| schestowitz | I reckon a few of them don't use FS | Nov 02 09:11 |
| schestowitz | but some other crap | Nov 02 09:11 |
| schestowitz | they're hypocritical in their stance | Nov 02 09:11 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | "Conservancy Announces New Strategy for GPL Enforcement and Related Work, Receives Grant from ARDC" | Nov 02 09:13 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | There you go | Nov 02 09:13 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Classic tactic | Nov 02 09:13 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | GPL but not AGPL | Nov 02 09:13 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | GPL doesn't work in 2020. | Nov 02 09:14 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | You need AGPL to enforce copyleft. | Nov 02 09:14 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | From the article "Today, we observe almost universal failure in compliance throughout the (so-called) Internet of Things (IoT) market. Only unrelenting enforcement that holds companies accountable can change this abysmal reality." | Nov 02 09:15 |
| oiaohm | vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx: Not exactly sure some of the China rulings on GPL have got very warped to say the least. | Nov 02 09:15 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | And yet not a single word about AGPL | Nov 02 09:15 |
| oiaohm | Particularly the ruling that GPL is between the developer of the software and the end user. | Nov 02 09:15 |
| oiaohm | If that is taken one way in China GPL and AGPL are no different. | Nov 02 09:15 |
| oiaohm | AGPL does make it clear. | Nov 02 09:16 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Well then the Chinese ruling is sabotaging the AGPL. Because AGPL clearly states you can't just hold the software behind a network and then server modified versions. | Nov 02 09:16 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Without disclosing said modifications | Nov 02 09:17 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | The GPL is dead. | Nov 02 09:17 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | The quicker that message spreads the better. | Nov 02 09:17 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | It's unfit for use now. | Nov 02 09:17 |
| schestowitz | enforcing agpl might not be easy | Nov 02 09:18 |
| schestowitz | and gpl is not dead | Nov 02 09:18 |
| schestowitz | you repeat the FUD of Microsoft and Co. | Nov 02 09:18 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | It might not be easy but it kills the loophole in the GPL | Nov 02 09:19 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | That allowed SAAS to steal GPL software. | Nov 02 09:19 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | And I'm not repeating any FUD | Nov 02 09:20 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I'm just saying we need the right license | Nov 02 09:20 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | AGPL is the same with just a plug for a loophole | Nov 02 09:20 |
| oiaohm | There was a china case over SAAS with GPL where the SAAS was forced to give up source code or cease using the GPL work their choi8ce. | Nov 02 09:21 |
| oiaohm | So using SAAS to get around GPL may not turn out long term legally healthy. | Nov 02 09:21 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | But why make life harder for ourselves when AGPL makes that clear? | Nov 02 09:21 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I was happy to see Guix using AGPL for a lot of their stuff. They have the right idea. | Nov 02 09:22 |
| oiaohm | AGPL does not have any major cases anywhere show its enforcement is possible. | Nov 02 09:22 |
| *obarun has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) | Nov 02 09:23 | |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Chicken and egg problem. People need to start using it for a case to pop up. | Nov 02 09:23 |
| oiaohm | That why I am not sure if GPL or AGPL is better yet. | Nov 02 09:23 |
| oiaohm | With the odd rulings going on with GPL. | Nov 02 09:23 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Also, those rulings depend on the country you are in. | Nov 02 09:23 |
| oiaohm | The concept in china that GPL is between you and your end user due to being contract not copyright. | Nov 02 09:23 |
| oiaohm | That really flips the GPL license around a lot. | Nov 02 09:24 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/08/18/daniel-wallace-v-gpl-revisited/ | Nov 02 09:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Daniel Wallace Explains Why He Challenged the GPL (Copyleft) in Court | Techrights | Nov 02 09:24 | |
| oiaohm | Yes the question comes how many other countries is GPL valid as a contract. | Nov 02 09:24 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | From the source: https://www.gnu.org/licenses/agpl-3.0.html | Nov 02 09:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gnu.org | GNU Affero General Public License - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation | Nov 02 09:25 | |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | "However, in the case of software used on network servers, this result may fail to come about. The GNU General Public License permits making a modified version and letting the public access it on a server without ever releasing its source code to the public." | Nov 02 09:25 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | A lot of clown services rely on people not transitioning to GPL. | Nov 02 09:26 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | AGPL* | Nov 02 09:27 |
| oiaohm | That the intesting point china high court did not agree. | Nov 02 09:27 |
| oiaohm | The fall out of that legally as not sorted out yet. | Nov 02 09:27 |
| *obarun (~obarun@host-115-126-165-174.fibre.nautile.nc) has joined #techrights | Nov 02 09:28 | |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | "To "convey" a work means any kind of propagation that enables other parties to make or receive copies. Mere interaction with a user through a computer network, with no transfer of a copy, is not conveying." | Nov 02 09:32 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | "5. Conveying Modified Source Versions." | Nov 02 09:33 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | "You may convey a work based on the Program, or the modifications to produce it from the Program, in the form of source code under the terms of section 4, provided that you also meet all of these conditions:" | Nov 02 09:33 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | "c) You must license the entire work, as a whole, under this License to anyone who comes into possession of a copy. This License will therefore apply, along with any applicable section 7 additional terms, to the whole of the work, and all its parts, regardless of how they are packaged. This License gives no permission to license the work in any other way, but it does not invalidate such permission if you have separately recei | Nov 02 09:33 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | That's what causes a lot of confusion | Nov 02 09:34 |
| schestowitz | can we get back to the original issue? What OS SFC uses? | Nov 02 09:35 |
| schestowitz | Brad and his sidekick likely use some gnu/liux | Nov 02 09:36 |
| schestowitz | but not sure about the rest | Nov 02 09:36 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | They could produce stuff in a VM and nobody would be the wiser | Nov 02 09:36 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | So metadata not really helpful unless there was a slip | Nov 02 09:36 |
| schestowitz | also, can you find out where "Denver Gingerich" came from? | Nov 02 09:36 |
| schestowitz | Never saw that name before | Nov 02 09:36 |
| oiaohm | vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx: it gets harder when you have sent like javascript over the wire. | Nov 02 09:37 |
| oiaohm | Mere interaction with software over the network like telnet you have not transfered any code. | Nov 02 09:37 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | oiaohm: JS always finds a way to complicate things. | Nov 02 09:38 |
| oiaohm | The china rulings get into these complex things. | Nov 02 09:38 |
| oiaohm | is there convey there of any form comes a horrible question./ | Nov 02 09:38 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I was just pointing out their structuring of those clauses makes it seem like only conveying would trigger AGPL. But that's not the case. Serving a modified version also triggers AGPL but you have to do conditional clause digging. | Nov 02 09:39 |
| oiaohm | These little complicate things is why using a GPL work on a SAAS could legally be as bad as AGPL. AGPL makes it clear you have screwed up. GPL you get to court and have the judge say you screwed up. | Nov 02 09:40 |
| oiaohm | Please note the rulings one when you have to release source code with GPLv2 is not even fully sorted out yet. | Nov 02 09:41 |
| oiaohm | I am not saying don't release code as AGPL. But you should not straight up think a GPLv2/v3 work is any safer as there many ways you can use a GPLv2/v3 work in a SAAS setup that you have to treat it like AGPL or be illegal. | Nov 02 09:43 |
| oiaohm | Its not really safe to spread the idea that choosing GPLv2/GPLv3 is 100 percent safe for SAAS to abuse. | Nov 02 09:44 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | schestowitz: All I got for Denver is that he's the founder or something of that sorts of "JMP(.chat)" | Nov 02 09:44 |
| schestowitz | maybe new sfc staff | Nov 02 09:45 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | oiaohm: I see what you were trying to say now. | Nov 02 09:45 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/sfc-riaa.jpg | Nov 02 09:45 |
| schestowitz | maybe it'll help if I hit publish prematurely | Nov 02 09:46 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Let me give it a quick skim | Nov 02 09:46 |
| schestowitz | and then I can proofread with you while it's "live" | Nov 02 09:46 |
| schestowitz | ok, read this quickly http://techrights.org/2020/11/02/sfc-morality/ | Nov 02 09:46 |
| schestowitz | expect typos | Nov 02 09:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Software Freedom Conservancy Needs to Resign From Microsoft Before Telling Microsoft to Resign From RIAA | Techrights | Nov 02 09:46 | |
| oiaohm | Really Microsoft resigns from the RIAA will not stop the DCMA processes. | Nov 02 09:47 |
| schestowitz | yes, it's pointless | Nov 02 09:47 |
| schestowitz | the right wing calls that "virtue signaling" | Nov 02 09:48 |
| schestowitz | and they take money from Microsoft | Nov 02 09:48 |
| schestowitz | which shows how shallow this BS is | Nov 02 09:48 |
| oiaohm | The fact Microsoft could pay enough to have a seat on RIAA board they techically could change RIAA polices. | Nov 02 09:48 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Looks good to me | Nov 02 09:48 |
| oiaohm | Resign does not change anything., | Nov 02 09:48 |
| oiaohm | Microsoft decided to fight striaght in RIAA board that could change something. | Nov 02 09:48 |
| oiaohm | Of course I don't think Microsoft will | Nov 02 09:49 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I'm glad TR is pushing the GitHub issue. This hegemony over development platform infrastructure is possibly one of the biggest threats we've faced in a long time. | Nov 02 09:51 |
| schestowitz | it is | Nov 02 09:52 |
| oiaohm | Really our software development tools like git are designed around single server setups. Not server with mirror setup. | Nov 02 09:53 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | IPFS solves that issue to a big extent. You can just pin a nightly tarball on the IPFS network. | Nov 02 09:54 |
| oiaohm | Not really., | Nov 02 09:54 |
| oiaohm | IPFS version of git has the magic disappearing repo problem. | Nov 02 09:54 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I'm not saying to put a live repo integrated into IPFS | Nov 02 09:54 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I'm just saying nightly tarballs can be pinned on IPFS | Nov 02 09:55 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | And it's very easy to distribute | Nov 02 09:55 |
| oiaohm | For development we do need the repos. | Nov 02 09:55 |
| oiaohm | w | Nov 02 09:55 |
| oiaohm | We also need to make them more durable. | Nov 02 09:55 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | The main issue is more how to make something like bugzilla more durable. | Nov 02 09:56 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Because that's where live interaction needs to propagate quickly | Nov 02 09:56 |
| oiaohm | If you have the nightly tarballs alone you are also missing the bug report data and other things to keep development going as well. | Nov 02 09:56 |
| *psydread (eace4d91cc@2a01:7c8:aab8:6b9:5054:ff:fec9:fd84) has left #techrights | Nov 02 09:56 | |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Good timing lol | Nov 02 09:56 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | You can't really have a system like bugzilla on IPFS. You need centralised infra for that. | Nov 02 09:56 |
| oiaohm | Its our current complete development system | Nov 02 09:56 |
| oiaohm | that needs a over all. | Nov 02 09:57 |
| oiaohm | all/hall. | Nov 02 09:57 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I've got a few tarballs that I'm going to put on IPFS anyway. | Nov 02 09:57 |
| *psydread (eace4d91cc@2a01:7c8:aab8:6b9:5054:ff:fec9:fd84) has joined #techrights | Nov 02 09:57 | |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | It beats doing nothing about it | Nov 02 09:57 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Like zipped GNU coreutil tarballs | Nov 02 09:57 |
| schestowitz | lol | Nov 02 09:58 |
| schestowitz | pleroma.site cert expired | Nov 02 09:58 |
| schestowitz | causing loads of issues | Nov 02 09:58 |
| schestowitz | I remember the days you could just set up a site | Nov 02 09:58 |
| schestowitz | without worrying about letsencrypt stuff | Nov 02 09:59 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | We can still just set up a site. | Nov 02 09:59 |
| schestowitz | or having the site made inaccessible in spite of the server working just fine | Nov 02 09:59 |
| schestowitz | all this extra complication | Nov 02 09:59 |
| schestowitz | for CAs that are likely compromised anyway | Nov 02 09:59 |
| schestowitz | for US Empire | Nov 02 09:59 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | It's the web browsers that ruined it all | Nov 02 09:59 |
| oiaohm | https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/ipfs-repo-cache-gc.html ipfs is not really long term stable solution. | Nov 02 09:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ctrl.blog | When does IPFSโ garbage collector clear the cache | Nov 02 09:59 | |
| schestowitz | pleroma.site is in essence non-functional now | Nov 02 10:01 |
| schestowitz | the server works ok, but the cert was not renewed | Nov 02 10:01 |
| schestowitz | so let the whole thing burn to death | Nov 02 10:01 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | That link is bullshit | Nov 02 10:01 |
| schestowitz | because of worthless cert from likely compromised CA | Nov 02 10:01 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Pinned IPFS objects don't get garbage collected | Nov 02 10:01 |
| schestowitz | this is the kind of thing Torvalds called "masturbating monkeys" | Nov 02 10:02 |
| schestowitz | letting things go awol for the mere pretence of "security" | Nov 02 10:03 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | https://docs.ipfs.io/how-to/pin-files/#three-kinds-of-pins | Nov 02 10:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-docs.ipfs.io | Pin files | IPFS Docs | Nov 02 10:03 | |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I'm putting up a lot of IPFS pins as experiments this week. I'll link the HTTP gateway versions here. | Nov 02 10:05 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Thing is Let's Encrypt don't actually give you a cert | Nov 02 10:05 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | You generate it locally | Nov 02 10:05 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | They just "verify" it | Nov 02 10:06 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | But that verifying is bullshit | Nov 02 10:06 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | That monopolises certification power | Nov 02 10:06 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | And browsers have pushed that monopoly for a decade or more by now | Nov 02 10:06 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | web browsers | Nov 02 10:07 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | So if you really want to boycott someone | Nov 02 10:07 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Boycott all the browsers that do that | Nov 02 10:07 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | They've done a great job of scaring away every single average computer user with those warnings | Nov 02 10:08 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | There's no simple button to trust a self-signed TLS cert | Nov 02 10:09 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | You have to click many buttons and wade through multiple ominous warnings to do it | Nov 02 10:09 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | That's a FUD work of art | Nov 02 10:09 |
| oiaohm | Not really no one solved the problem how to validate a human or a site certiicate | Nov 02 10:11 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | In the private security world we do that by physical exchange. Over the internet you need to have some level of third-party trust. | Nov 02 10:13 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | The best you can do is look at the IP address you're communicating with. Over a different channel, you ask if that's the IP address of the person handling the TLS. | Nov 02 10:14 |
| schestowitz | 9am is an odd time for cent to expire, but LF is in the west coast where it is midnight | Nov 02 10:15 |
| Chaekyung | http://www.cacert.org/ CaCert has been around for ages. It's a community-driven grass-roots kind of organization trying to give out free SSL certificates. | Nov 02 10:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Welcome to CAcert.org | Nov 02 10:15 | |
| schestowitz | lots of services can no longer connect to pleroma.site | Nov 02 10:15 |
| Chaekyung | After .. like 20 years, or perhaps it's just 15? they are still not included in any major web browser | Nov 02 10:15 |
| schestowitz | not just Web browsers | Nov 02 10:15 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Nobody should be in control of "giving out" certs | Nov 02 10:16 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | That should be locally generated by the sysadmin | Nov 02 10:16 |
| schestowitz | this "trust" model goes beyond web browsing | Nov 02 10:16 |
| Chaekyung | pleroma.site has a expired certificate | Nov 02 10:16 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | it's like if someone asked me for my private encryption keys. You have got to be joking. | Nov 02 10:16 |
| schestowitz | Chaekyung: yes, for 1-3 hours | Nov 02 10:16 |
| Chaekyung | I use Letsencrypt myself | Nov 02 10:17 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft funded | Nov 02 10:17 |
| schestowitz | and NSA connected | Nov 02 10:17 |
| Chaekyung | the certificates are valid 90-days | Nov 02 10:17 |
| Chaekyung | so what schestowitz | Nov 02 10:17 |
| Chaekyung | you can submit to them OR pay like $200 for a certificate not from them | Nov 02 10:17 |
| schestowitz | easier to game cerf numbers when they let them expire so fast | Nov 02 10:17 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | TLS infrastructure right now needs to die | Nov 02 10:17 |
| schestowitz | Chaekyung: I am criticising not just them | Nov 02 10:17 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | It's a monopoly | Nov 02 10:17 |
| schestowitz | they used to mock Chinese CAs | Nov 02 10:18 |
| schestowitz | as if the US does in fact respect security and privacy | Nov 02 10:18 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | It's like if someone asked me to let them verify my GPG keys. | Nov 02 10:18 |
| schestowitz | they have control over many sites | Nov 02 10:18 |
| schestowitz | on multiple levels | Nov 02 10:18 |
| schestowitz | the sites outsource trust to a cabal of monsters | Nov 02 10:19 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Third-party verification of any asymmetric-encryption needs to die | Nov 02 10:19 |
| Chaekyung | Well, in this day and age of censorship, everyone being kicked off youtube, patreon, mailchimp, paypal, etc for saying the wrong thing.. | Nov 02 10:19 |
| oiaohm | vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx: its not that simple., | Nov 02 10:19 |
| Chaekyung | I got to hand it to let's encrypt, I have no yet seen them say "We don't like your site for $vaguereasons so you can't renew that cert" | Nov 02 10:19 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Look at RMS. People are impersonating him on GPG keyservers. That's because third-party verification is a scam. | Nov 02 10:19 |
| oiaohm | How to reduce man in middle attack problems. | Nov 02 10:19 |
| schestowitz | mailchimp? | Nov 02 10:19 |
| schestowitz | never heard of it | Nov 02 10:19 |
| oiaohm | That the problem | Nov 02 10:19 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | You use end-to-end encryption | Nov 02 10:19 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | And you get a public key from the original issuer | Nov 02 10:20 |
| Chaekyung | neither had I schestowitz. Apparently it's a mailing list service used by some, and they ban people who cover the wrong topics | Nov 02 10:20 |
| oiaohm | vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx: I guess you have never used a ISP that man in middle websites and added their own adveristement as a funding model. | Nov 02 10:20 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | It is simple | Nov 02 10:20 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Stop saying it's not simple | Nov 02 10:20 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | This has been done in security since the beginning of things like GPG | Nov 02 10:20 |
| Chaekyung | oiaohm: yeah I've heard of that one. That's pretty sick | Nov 02 10:20 |
| oiaohm | Yes including man in end to end encrytpion. | Nov 02 10:20 |
| oiaohm | This is the problem we are dealing with. | Nov 02 10:20 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | There is no man in the middle to worry about with end-to-end encryption | Nov 02 10:21 |
| schestowitz | facebook "end to end" | Nov 02 10:21 |
| schestowitz | ending with Trump | Nov 02 10:21 |
| *rianne__ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Nov 02 10:21 | |
| schestowitz | :-) | Nov 02 10:21 |
| Chaekyung | vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx: Now it's PERSON in the middle attack | Nov 02 10:21 |
| Chaekyung | PIMA | Nov 02 10:21 |
| *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-169-118.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Nov 02 10:21 | |
| oiaohm | You can man in middle end to end encryption of you don't have a validation process of some form. | Nov 02 10:21 |
| schestowitz | Chaekyung: the politics? | Nov 02 10:22 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Yes and you validate with the person who issues the public key | Nov 02 10:22 |
| schestowitz | man is a dirty word in all contextx? | Nov 02 10:22 |
| schestowitz | *contexts | Nov 02 10:22 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | In my work we exchange public keys in person | Nov 02 10:22 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | It doesn't get more secure than that | Nov 02 10:22 |
| schestowitz | because oh man.... changing all those terms and acronyms will make life harder | Nov 02 10:22 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Lower level we send public keys via mail | Nov 02 10:22 |
| schestowitz | for women also | Nov 02 10:22 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | snail mail | Nov 02 10:23 |
| schestowitz | if MitM is not deprecated as a term | Nov 02 10:23 |
| schestowitz | *now | Nov 02 10:23 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | And then over the phone we check fingerprints | Nov 02 10:23 |
| schestowitz | people needing to memorise more terms that mean the same thing for purely political purposes | Nov 02 10:23 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I advised a certain project not long ago to just use Let's Encrypt to set up a web page with a GPG public key on it. | Nov 02 10:24 |
| schestowitz | pleroma.site | Nov 02 10:24 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | And then after that ditch TLS altogether | Nov 02 10:24 |
| schestowitz | Let's Encrypt Authority X3 | Nov 02 10:24 |
| schestowitz | They outsourced trust the US | Nov 02 10:24 |
| schestowitz | the site is hosted in France | Nov 02 10:24 |
| schestowitz | and it lets Trumpland decide on trust | Nov 02 10:24 |
| schestowitz | this is 2020 | Nov 02 10:24 |
| schestowitz | with dictator running the US | Nov 02 10:24 |
| schestowitz | French site giving the US control over the site's access | Nov 02 10:25 |
| schestowitz | heck, outsource that to a Turkish CA | Nov 02 10:25 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | schestowitz: Let's Encrypt isn't a disaster because at least you generate all the keys on your own machine | Nov 02 10:25 |
| oiaohm | https://wiki.squid-cache.org/Features/SslPeekAndSplice this is what makes life complex. | Nov 02 10:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wiki.squid-cache.org | Features/SslPeekAndSplice - Squid Web Proxy Wiki | Nov 02 10:25 | |
| schestowitz | Erdogan will be OK with it until they "insult" islam | Nov 02 10:25 |
| oiaohm | Why is it a disaster to let you generate you own keys so keeping the private key properly hidden. | Nov 02 10:25 |
| schestowitz | we need a new acronym | Nov 02 10:26 |
| schestowitz | DDoC | Nov 02 10:26 |
| schestowitz | Downtime Due tO Cert | Nov 02 10:26 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | TLS is a waste of time | Nov 02 10:26 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I don't use it in any of my projects | Nov 02 10:26 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | We use OpenPGP for everything | Nov 02 10:26 |
| oiaohm | Now not having more countries offering letsencrypt services is a problem. | Nov 02 10:26 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I'm glad TR doesn't use TLS | Nov 02 10:27 |
| schestowitz | have we all settled on one CA? | Nov 02 10:27 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Keep it that way schestowitz | Nov 02 10:27 |
| schestowitz | monopoly for trust is always a Bad Idea(TM) | Nov 02 10:27 |
| schestowitz | and look who sponsors that CA | Nov 02 10:27 |
| schestowitz | literal criminals | Nov 02 10:27 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Yes. And TLS is a monopoly of trust | Nov 02 10:27 |
| schestowitz | companies that do genocides | Nov 02 10:27 |
| schestowitz | for profit | Nov 02 10:27 |
| *GNUmoon has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Nov 02 10:27 | |
| *inky has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Nov 02 10:27 | |
| oiaohm | we also cannot forgot we have had different parties wanting to alter connections for personal gain as well. | Nov 02 10:28 |
| schestowitz | Mark Shuttleworth became almost a billionaire (by Western currencies) by helping a company get closer to monopoly | Nov 02 10:28 |
| *inky (~norayr@178.78.148.86) has joined #techrights | Nov 02 10:28 | |
| schestowitz | "Google โXenon2020โ' | Nov 02 10:29 |
| schestowitz | That's in the cert, no idea what that is | Nov 02 10:29 |
| oiaohm | monopoly for trust I agree is bad. But we also do need a validation option for sites we don't have direct dealing with. | Nov 02 10:29 |
| schestowitz | but having "Google" in your cert doesn't inspire confidence | Nov 02 10:29 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I will never support TLS in any form. | Nov 02 10:29 |
| schestowitz | they make money by undermining security/privacy | Nov 02 10:29 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Because it is a monopoly | Nov 02 10:30 |
| oiaohm | TLS and SSL came about because of man in middle problems. | Nov 02 10:30 |
| schestowitz | can't DNS be extended to deal with this? | Nov 02 10:30 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | OpenPGP solves all these problems | Nov 02 10:30 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | The argument is a waste of time | Nov 02 10:30 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: the ISP is still mitm for many purposes | Nov 02 10:30 |
| oiaohm | The threat of man in the middle has not gone away. | Nov 02 10:30 |
| schestowitz | right | Nov 02 10:31 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | There is not man in the middle threat in end-to-end PGP encryption | Nov 02 10:31 |
| schestowitz | Like I said, "masturbating monkeys" (Torvalds) | Nov 02 10:31 |
| schestowitz | they hardly solve the issue, but they stroke one another about building a "trust" monopoly | Nov 02 10:31 |
| schestowitz | sponsored and controlled by them | Nov 02 10:31 |
| schestowitz | more control over people's browsers and browsing | Nov 02 10:31 |
| oiaohm | OpenPGP with what been done with SSLPeekAndSPlice without adding a validation system is open to man in middle. | Nov 02 10:31 |
| schestowitz | and another censorship vector | Nov 02 10:32 |
| schestowitz | even if you use a local webhost and ISP | Nov 02 10:32 |
| schestowitz | at a time of war they can knock out sites at the "trust" level to deny access to competing narratives | Nov 02 10:32 |
| oiaohm | The man in middle problem is not simple to solve heck I don't think we have close to the solution yet. | Nov 02 10:32 |
| oiaohm | that works in all cases. | Nov 02 10:32 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Listen, oiaohm. I am only going to say this one more time. If you validate the fingerprint of a PGP public key over something like a phonecall or in person, there is no possibility of man in the middle attack. If you don't understand this you don't understand how OpenPGP works. | Nov 02 10:33 |
| *psydread (eace4d91cc@2a01:7c8:aab8:6b9:5054:ff:fec9:fd84) has left #techrights | Nov 02 10:33 | |
| schestowitz | it goes beyond browsers | Nov 02 10:33 |
| oiaohm | vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx: and are you going to be able todo that for every website you use? | Nov 02 10:33 |
| schestowitz | brutaldom cannot access pleroma.site, as a service... | Nov 02 10:33 |
| schestowitz | so you basically isolate sites from the rest of the web by tampering with cert status | Nov 02 10:33 |
| *psydread (eace4d91cc@2a01:7c8:aab8:6b9:5054:ff:fec9:fd84) has joined #techrights | Nov 02 10:33 | |
| schestowitz | it's another censorship vector and look who's controlling it | Nov 02 10:34 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Any service, it doesn't matter if it's a website, that doesn't have that capability is not something I would trust at a certain level of operational security. | Nov 02 10:34 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | That's the end of my contribution to this discussion. | Nov 02 10:35 |
| oiaohm | vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx: Its not that simple. Man in the middle can be just looking for a weak link to get you something into yoru system. | Nov 02 10:35 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Okay you are clearly a troll | Nov 02 10:35 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I am no longer going to reply to you. | Nov 02 10:36 |
| *schestowitz seen that before | Nov 02 10:36 | |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | schestowitz: I recommend you do the same. | Nov 02 10:36 |
| schestowitz | not a troll | Nov 02 10:36 |
| schestowitz | but annoys some people | Nov 02 10:36 |
| schestowitz | usually when acting as Microsoft apologist | Nov 02 10:36 |
| schestowitz | or repeating their talking point in one form or another | Nov 02 10:37 |
| schestowitz | but def. not a troll | Nov 02 10:37 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | This person is spreading misinformation about how OpenPGP works | Nov 02 10:38 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Please ban said individual | Nov 02 10:38 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | We have little enough resources as it is. We can't afford to waste them combatting misinformation when it's clear. | Nov 02 10:39 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | waste time* | Nov 02 10:39 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | schestowitz: gotta head out for a few hours. I'll be back on later in the afternoon. | Nov 02 10:42 |
| schestowitz | chhers | Nov 02 10:42 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Have a good one! :) | Nov 02 10:43 |
| schestowitz | two more days before gym closes | Nov 02 10:46 |
| schestowitz | will make the most of it | Nov 02 10:46 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Note, same person was advocating for not using AGPL. Yet another clear indicator of a corporate puppet | Nov 02 10:47 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Everyone: use AGPL. It plugs one of the biggest holes in GPL. | Nov 02 10:48 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | schestowitz: have a good time at the gym. | Nov 02 10:49 |
| schestowitz | cheers | Nov 02 10:54 |
| schestowitz | while pleroma.site down: | Nov 02 10:54 |
| schestowitz | โฌ | Nov 02 10:55 |
| schestowitz | Ubuntu-Based Voyager 20.10 GE Released With Linux 5.8 รขยข รฐยฟรฐรฐ รฐยธรฐรฐรฐรฐรฐรฐรฐ รข http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143916 | Nov 02 10:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu-Based Voyager 20.10 GE Released With Linux 5.8 | Tux Machines | Nov 02 10:55 | |
| schestowitz | โฌ | Nov 02 10:55 |
| schestowitz | GNOME Sushi Doesnรขt Work in Ubuntu 20.10, But There is a Fix http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143917 | Nov 02 10:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME Sushi Doesnโt Work in Ubuntu 20.10, But There is a Fix | Tux Machines | Nov 02 10:55 | |
| schestowitz | โฌ | Nov 02 10:55 |
| schestowitz | Benchmarking The Raspberry Pi 400 - A Raspberry Pi Keyboard Computer รขยข รฐยฟรฐรฐ รฐยธรฐรฐรฐรฐรฐรฐรฐ รข http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143918 | Nov 02 10:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Benchmarking The Raspberry Pi 400 - A Raspberry Pi Keyboard Computer | Tux Machines | Nov 02 10:55 | |
| schestowitz | โฌ | Nov 02 10:55 |
| schestowitz | Raspberry Pi 400 Keyboard PC Review and Benchmarks vs Raspberry Pi 4 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143919 | Nov 02 10:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi 400 Keyboard PC Review and Benchmarks vs Raspberry Pi 4 | Tux Machines | Nov 02 10:55 | |
| schestowitz | โฌ | Nov 02 10:55 |
| schestowitz | Understand your Python code with this open source visualization tool รขยข รฐยฟรฐรฐ รฐยธรฐรฐรฐรฐรฐรฐรฐ รข http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143920 | Nov 02 10:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Understand your Python code with this open source visualization tool | Tux Machines | Nov 02 10:55 | |
| schestowitz | โฌ | Nov 02 10:55 |
| schestowitz | #Android Leftovers รขยข รฐยฟรฐรฐ รฐยธรฐรฐรฐรฐรฐรฐรฐ รข http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143921 | Nov 02 10:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Nov 02 10:55 | |
| schestowitz | โฌ | Nov 02 10:55 |
| schestowitz | Linux Kernel 5.8 Reaches End of Life, Better Upgrade To Latest Version http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143912#comment-26983 | Nov 02 10:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 5.8 Reaches End of Life, Users Urged to Upgrade to Linux 5.9 Series | Tux Machines | Nov 02 10:55 | |
| schestowitz | โฌ | Nov 02 10:55 |
| schestowitz | Linux Mint Announces New Hypnotix IPTV Player And Chromium Package http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143915#comment-26982 | Nov 02 10:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Mint pre-loads Chromium and Brings New IPTV Player | Tux Machines | Nov 02 10:55 | |
| schestowitz | โฌ | Nov 02 10:55 |
| schestowitz | Linux 5.8 Reaches End Of Life: Here's How To Upgrade To Linux 5.9 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143912#comment-26980 | Nov 02 10:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 5.8 Reaches End of Life, Users Urged to Upgrade to Linux 5.9 Series | Tux Machines | Nov 02 10:55 | |
| schestowitz | โฌ | Nov 02 10:55 |
| schestowitz | #LinuxMint pre-loads Chromium and Brings New IPTV Player รขยข รฐยฟรฐรฐ รฐยธรฐรฐรฐรฐรฐรฐรฐ รข http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143915 | Nov 02 10:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Mint pre-loads Chromium and Brings New IPTV Player | Tux Machines | Nov 02 10:55 | |
| schestowitz | โฌ | Nov 02 10:55 |
| oiaohm | vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx: I was not advocating not using AGPL. I was saying the advantages may not be as be there due to recent legal. When it comes to encryption man middle I have been around long enough to see the symantec case and others like it. | Nov 02 10:56 |
| schestowitz | techrights.org/2020/03/04/lets-ask-lets-encrypt/ | Nov 02 10:56 |
| schestowitz | maybe ZemlinPAC will have issued a new cert for their site to work again... some time before the day's end | Nov 02 10:57 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/03/04/lf-ca-crisis/ | Nov 02 10:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation Issued Millions of Faulty Certificates and Linux Foundation CMO Who Worked for James Clapper Has Left | Techrights | Nov 02 10:57 | |
| oiaohm | The symantec case. Symantec was selling encryption keys to companies fine. But they were also selling deep packet inspection with clone keys. | Nov 02 10:57 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/03/04/lets-ask-lets-encrypt/ | Nov 02 10:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Urges Readers to Ask the Linux Foundationโs Letโs Encrypt (Backed by Companies That Give the NSA Back Doors) Some Hard But Legitimate Questions | Techrights | Nov 02 10:57 | |
| schestowitz | Symantec does Trump photo ops and is military connected | Nov 02 10:57 |
| schestowitz | trust Symantec as much as you trust Bush's wars | Nov 02 10:58 |
| oiaohm | Now could lets encrypt being USA based be forced to issue a clone key hell yes. | Nov 02 10:58 |
| oiaohm | Really you want multi party validation. | Nov 02 10:58 |
| oiaohm | Just because 1 party says that its the right key does not mean it is. | Nov 02 10:58 |
| schestowitz | multi party = Pentagon, NSA, Zemlin :-) | Nov 02 10:58 |
| schestowitz | there, multi :-) | Nov 02 10:58 |
| oiaohm | That where openpgp and ssl/tls can fall into a man in the middle hole. | Nov 02 10:58 |
| oiaohm | Really need a system where a certificate is not signed by 1 ca but in fact signed by many each in different countries legal. | Nov 02 10:59 |
| oiaohm | making getting a fake looking valid certificate insanely hard. | Nov 02 11:00 |
| oiaohm | Let's Encrypt I do agree is not ideal. | Nov 02 11:01 |
| oiaohm | The hostile thread of man in middle you have to consider they will attempt to mess with CA and DNS servers. | Nov 02 11:01 |
| oiaohm | as well as the sites. | Nov 02 11:02 |
| *CrystalMath has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) | Nov 02 11:02 | |
| oiaohm | The threat matrix is not fun. | Nov 02 11:02 |
| *CrystalMath (~coderain@reactos/developer/theflash) has joined #techrights | Nov 02 11:03 | |
| *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights | Nov 02 11:51 | |
| *obarun has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Nov 02 12:02 | |
| *inky has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Nov 02 12:18 | |
| *inky (~norayr@178.78.148.86) has joined #techrights | Nov 02 12:19 | |
| *inky has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Nov 02 12:57 | |
| *inky (~norayr@178.78.148.86) has joined #techrights | Nov 02 12:58 | |
| *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) | Nov 02 13:13 | |
| *inky has quit (Quit: Leaving) | Nov 02 13:14 | |
| *inky (~inky@178.78.148.86) has joined #techrights | Nov 02 13:22 | |
| *guysoft42 (~guysoft@109.226.44.150) has joined #techrights | Nov 02 14:28 | |
| *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) | Nov 02 14:29 | |
| *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: Support Richard Stallman, Jacob Appelbaum, and other good people! | https://sterling-archermedes.github.io/) | Nov 02 14:32 | |
| *psymin (~psymin@fsf/member/psymin) has joined #techrights | Nov 02 14:37 | |
| *inky (~inky@46.241.181.133) has joined #techrights | Nov 02 14:43 | |
| *inky has quit (Max SendQ exceeded) | Nov 02 14:44 | |
| *inky (~inky@46.241.181.133) has joined #techrights | Nov 02 14:45 | |
| *inky has quit (Max SendQ exceeded) | Nov 02 14:46 | |
| *inky (~inky@46.241.181.133) has joined #techrights | Nov 02 14:47 | |
| *inky has quit (Max SendQ exceeded) | Nov 02 14:48 | |
| *inky (~inky@46.241.181.133) has joined #techrights | Nov 02 14:50 | |
| *inky has quit (Max SendQ exceeded) | Nov 02 14:50 | |
| *inky (~inky@46.241.181.133) has joined #techrights | Nov 02 14:53 | |
| *inky has quit (Max SendQ exceeded) | Nov 02 14:54 | |
| *inky (~inky@46.241.181.133) has joined #techrights | Nov 02 14:55 | |
| *inky has quit (Max SendQ exceeded) | Nov 02 14:56 | |
| *inky (~inky@5.77.171.240) has joined #techrights | Nov 02 15:29 | |
| *inky has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Nov 02 15:38 | |
| *inky (~inky@5.77.171.240) has joined #techrights | Nov 02 15:58 | |
| *mlefzvnxkj (~eCNinDAn~@gateway/tor-sasl/spareproject) has joined #techrights | Nov 02 16:14 | |
| *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) | Nov 02 16:14 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Linux Mint Announces New Hypnotix IPTV Player And Chromium Package http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143915#comment-26982 [https://pleroma.site/objects/47f49938-6bef-416a-9deb-53167b5f266e] | Nov 02 16:22 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Linux Kernel 5.8 Reaches End of Life, Better Upgrade To Latest Version http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143912#comment-26983 [https://pleroma.site/objects/3b9dc4ce-cd3b-458c-9c5d-7700a33dc0ed] | Nov 02 16:25 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers โข ๐ฟ๐๐ ๐ธ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ โ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143921 [https://pleroma.site/objects/c437744d-bed7-42ce-a771-c0c45be9d6d7] | Nov 02 16:25 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Understand your Python code with this open source visualization tool โข ๐ฟ๐๐ ๐ธ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ โ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143920 [https://pleroma.site/objects/431f00b1-7c35-4608-8cf4-2aea44b13a7b] | Nov 02 16:26 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Raspberry Pi 400 Keyboard PC Review and Benchmarks vs Raspberry Pi 4 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143919 [https://pleroma.site/objects/09e88362-db63-4a16-8bf9-afb749edc43e] | Nov 02 16:26 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Benchmarking The Raspberry Pi 400 - A Raspberry Pi Keyboard Computer โข ๐ฟ๐๐ ๐ธ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ โ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143918 [https://pleroma.site/objects/36630616-062f-44e4-bf7c-cc2639f910a5] | Nov 02 16:26 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: GNOME Sushi Doesnโt Work in Ubuntu 20.10, But There is a Fix http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143917 [https://pleroma.site/objects/072fa413-a444-4e19-8acb-893f1e4c3c53] | Nov 02 16:26 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Ubuntu-Based Voyager 20.10 GE Released With Linux 5.8 โข ๐ฟ๐๐ ๐ธ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ โ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143916 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a3b96b8e-74dd-4336-9169-06293e528307] | Nov 02 16:26 | |
| *vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx (~vZS1aHdks@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has left #techrights | Nov 02 16:28 | |
| schestowitz | [11:01] <oiaohm> Let's Encrypt I do agree is not ideal. | Nov 02 16:33 |
| schestowitz | OK | Nov 02 16:33 |
| *inky (~inky@5.77.171.240) has joined #techrights | Nov 02 16:34 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Meet the Raspberry Pi 400, a complete setup inside a tiny keyboard http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143919#comment-26984 [https://pleroma.site/objects/f8a52089-cd30-46f6-8852-b0abd84c926e] | Nov 02 16:37 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Games: Valve, Godot, Free/Libre Games and More Titles โข ๐ฟ๐๐ ๐ธ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ โ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143922 [https://pleroma.site/objects/7242fdf3-2cd8-438e-9613-e7fcc8385907] | Nov 02 16:44 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Best Linux Distributions For Everyone in 2020 โข ๐ฟ๐๐ ๐ธ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ โ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143924 [https://pleroma.site/objects/c2e301b8-a4be-4615-8efc-0b2400eef0fd] | Nov 02 17:14 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Todayโs #HowTos | #UNIX โข ๐ฟ๐๐ ๐ธ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ โ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143925 [https://pleroma.site/objects/ff218669-24d0-4073-b006-6f856eff2a6a] | Nov 02 17:16 | |
| *mlefzvnxkj has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) | Nov 02 17:19 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Review: #Ubuntu 20.10 โข ๐ฟ๐๐ ๐ธ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ โ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143926 [https://pleroma.site/objects/f9e61411-60df-4de3-88e4-b5895bd6b160] | Nov 02 17:20 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Collabora Online 6.4 Office Suite Arrives with New Look, Improved Document Compatibility http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143923 [https://pleroma.site/objects/da621d8e-e09e-406e-a47f-ac940b2c8480] | Nov 02 17:24 | |
| *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) | Nov 02 17:36 | |
| XRevan86 | https://torrentfreak.com/deciphering-youtubes-rolling-cypher-in-your-browser-is-a-piece-of-cake-201030/ RIAA should DMCA Firefox and Chromium | Nov 02 17:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-'Deciphering' YouTube's Rolling Cypher in Your Browser is a Piece of Cake * TorrentFreak | Nov 02 17:37 | |
| schestowitz | zoobab: http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2020/11/02/better-late-than-never-german-liberal-party-files-parliamentary-question-on-unified-patent-court/ | Nov 02 17:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | Better Late Than Never โ German Liberal Party Files Parliamentary Question on Unified Patent Court - Kluwer Patent Blog | Nov 02 17:40 | |
| schestowitz | http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2020/11/02/better-late-than-never-german-liberal-party-files-parliamentary-question-on-unified-patent-court/#comments | Nov 02 17:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | Better Late Than Never โ German Liberal Party Files Parliamentary Question on Unified Patent Court - Kluwer Patent Blog | Nov 02 17:41 | |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 02 17:41 |
| schestowitz | All very good questions. However, I am afraid that we can already predict with 100% confidence what the responses will be, namely โEverything is in order. Nothing to see hereโ. We can also be certain that the responses will amount to nothing more than hand-waving, smoke and mirrors and half truths. | Nov 02 17:41 |
| schestowitz | If there were any valid and robust answers to the questions posed, then those answers would have been provided by now. | Nov 02 17:41 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 02 17:41 |
| MinceR | https://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/07/03/aea1b5aa8411624c.jpg | Nov 02 17:56 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: The Coolest Little Linux PC: Meet The Raspberry Pi 400 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143919#comment-26985 [https://pleroma.site/objects/faec4a47-47ed-45cd-adf3-c84fd6cc484e] | Nov 02 17:58 | |
| *inky (~inky@37.186.105.91) has joined #techrights | Nov 02 18:02 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Hangover lets (some) Windows x86 apps run on Linux PCs with ARM or POWER chips http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143927 [https://pleroma.site/objects/74ba03b2-a371-429c-8ee8-2ddd2b0da94a] | Nov 02 18:02 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Interview with Tansy Branscombe http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143928 [https://pleroma.site/objects/c8b07569-bc07-41e5-b45e-c68162f23b2e] | Nov 02 18:05 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Millions of dung flies cannot all be wrong. | Nov 02 18:16 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Mourning Dan Kohn http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143929 [https://pleroma.site/objects/c485e75e-f8bd-4809-8bf9-ba2adfb86319] | Nov 02 18:18 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: The New Raspberry Pi 400 is Basically a Tiny Computer Inside a Keyboard http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143919#comment-26986 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a09f49a5-ea2d-40e0-86ca-fd66f1b37b9b] | Nov 02 18:20 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: GnuCash: A Powerful Open Source Accounting Software http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143930 [https://pleroma.site/objects/6c8a2c2b-34a3-46f8-a9ad-050bcb281536] | Nov 02 18:23 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: An Open Source Leader Is Gone, a Remembrance of Dan Kohn http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143929#comment-26988 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d07b8136-963f-446f-ab2e-c532d5f1485c] | Nov 02 18:26 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Red Hat Leftovers โข ๐ฟ๐๐ ๐ธ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ โ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143931 [https://pleroma.site/objects/cd6a4477-6c96-453e-af44-4627913eae60] | Nov 02 18:35 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Kubernetes in Ubuntu โข ๐ฟ๐๐ ๐ธ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ โ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143932 [https://pleroma.site/objects/86e27db2-9418-4c58-be02-f05c3f02496d] | Nov 02 18:38 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Todayโs ๐ฃ๐พ๐ ๐๐ช๐ฌ๐ฑ๐ฒ๐ท๐ฎ๐ผ Leftovers โข ๐ฟ๐๐ ๐ธ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ โ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143934 [https://pleroma.site/objects/6a6c9b78-a832-4627-a959-325d970ac40a] | Nov 02 18:46 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Links 2/11/2020: Dan Kohn Passes Away โข ๐๐ ด๐ ฒ๐ ท๐๐ ธ๐ ถ๐ ท๐๐ โ http://techrights.org/2020/11/02/dan-kohn-rip/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/3532a02b-69d6-4b4f-a5ba-c4bf94ad45ae] | Nov 02 18:51 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers โข ๐ฟ๐๐ ๐ธ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ โ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143933 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d4fcd081-8f18-4219-b18b-e92e74a3b9be] | Nov 02 18:55 | |
| *obarun (~obarun@host-115-126-165-174.fibre.nautile.nc) has joined #techrights | Nov 02 19:04 | |
| MinceR | https://full.pr0gramm.com/2020/07/03/05cf260cdaf4508a.jpg | Nov 02 19:06 |
| *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) | Nov 02 19:24 | |
| *inky (~inky@5.77.171.240) has joined #techrights | Nov 02 19:37 | |
| *vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx (~dummy@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights | Nov 02 19:41 | |
| *vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx (~dummy@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has left #techrights | Nov 02 19:42 | |
| *obarun has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Nov 02 19:52 | |
| *ALSOvZS1aHdksSQK (~dummy@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights | Nov 02 19:53 | |
| ALSOvZS1aHdksSQK | schestowitz: How'd the gym session go? | Nov 02 19:54 |
| *CrystalMath (~coderain@reactos/developer/theflash) has joined #techrights | Nov 02 20:22 | |
| MinceR | https://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/07/02/a479870fa8c965a3.jpg | Nov 02 20:25 |
| ALSOvZS1aHdksSQK | Goold old pr0gramm | Nov 02 20:27 |
| ALSOvZS1aHdksSQK | Good* | Nov 02 20:27 |
| *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | Nov 02 20:31 | |
| *inky (~inky@5.77.171.240) has joined #techrights | Nov 02 20:49 | |
| MinceR | (cat) https://imgur.com/gallery/8Sidc6J | Nov 02 20:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mikey cat - Album on Imgur | Nov 02 20:53 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Orange Pi Zero2 SBC debuts Allwinner H1616 โข ๐ฟ๐๐ ๐ธ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ โ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143935 [https://pleroma.site/objects/3f6897cb-80a6-45d5-a137-777d405dff45] | Nov 02 20:59 | |
| XRevan86 | https://torrentfreak.com/github-warns-users-reposting-youtube-dl-they-could-be-banned-201102/ | Nov 02 21:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub Warns Users Reposting YouTube-DL They Could Be Banned * TorrentFreak | Nov 02 21:00 | |
| XRevan86 | https://xkcd.com/2380/ | Nov 02 21:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xkcd: Election Impact Score Sheet | Nov 02 21:01 | |
| *guysoft42 has quit (Read error: No route to host) | Nov 02 21:08 | |
| ALSOvZS1aHdksSQK | So GitHub are at it again | Nov 02 21:10 |
| *tr_guest|72915 (4e1a97dc@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.78.26.151.220) has joined #techrights | Nov 02 21:12 | |
| *tr_guest|72915 has quit (Client Quit) | Nov 02 21:12 | |
| *TTwrs (~TTwrs@c-67-169-185-154.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #techrights | Nov 02 21:17 | |
| *TTwrs has quit (Quit: Leaving) | Nov 02 21:23 | |
| *rianne__ has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | Nov 02 21:35 | |
| *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-169-118.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Nov 02 21:35 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Video: Raspberry Pi 400 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143919#comment-26993 [https://pleroma.site/objects/3cd61650-36ee-4fdf-9d95-ab229ad62bb6] | Nov 02 21:37 | |
| schestowitz | ALSOvZS1aHdksSQK: yes, they double down | Nov 02 21:38 |
| schestowitz | [21:04] [Notice] -viera to #boycottnovell-social- Dr. Roy Schestowitz (็ฝไผ): #boycottMicrosoft #boycottGitHub #microsoft #censorship #deletegithub http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143596#comment-26989 [https://pleroma.site/objects/c3486c88-9167-4544-b943-72ef60c7d510] | Nov 02 21:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Single Points of Failure and Proprietary Entrapment (Microsoft GitHub) | Tux Machines | Nov 02 21:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleroma.site | Nov 02 21:38 | |
| ALSOvZS1aHdksSQK | I had to change my nick because I'm on the Guix IRC as well | Nov 02 21:40 |
| ALSOvZS1aHdksSQK | I might just go by something simpler from now on as a nick | Nov 02 21:41 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Todayโs #HowTos | #UNIX โข ๐ฟ๐๐ ๐ธ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ โ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143936 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d0ae1817-6ede-4deb-8d5d-00f96c4a083c] | Nov 02 21:41 | |
| smnthermes | Why use a random nick? | Nov 02 21:41 |
| ALSOvZS1aHdksSQK | Can't really think of anything I like | Nov 02 21:41 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Linux Lite 5.2 overview | Simple Fast Free. http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143862#comment-26996 [https://pleroma.site/objects/e70c3a82-6994-4dd0-8c81-e8090281803d] | Nov 02 22:01 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Audiocasts/Shows: This Week in Linux, Linux in the Ham Shack, Linux Action News โข ๐ฟ๐๐ ๐ธ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ โ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143938 [https://pleroma.site/objects/253e20b2-5904-4fde-bdaf-8775738a9b9b] | Nov 02 22:05 | |
| *kupi (uid212005@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-izotevyprbcyotcz) has joined #techrights | Nov 02 22:11 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Security Leftovers โข ๐ฟ๐๐ ๐ธ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ โ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143940 [https://pleroma.site/objects/0f3a215a-47c5-4c93-aa67-459e64965be9] | Nov 02 22:14 | |
| *ALSOvZS1aHdksSQK is now known as vZS1_techrights | Nov 02 22:14 | |
| vZS1_techrights | Problem solved. LD | Nov 02 22:14 |
| vZS1_techrights | :D * | Nov 02 22:14 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Richard Hughes: New #fwupd 1.5.1 release โข ๐ฟ๐๐ ๐ธ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ โ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143941 [https://pleroma.site/objects/cd1c0a37-4591-426c-9919-bf68fa796042] | Nov 02 22:18 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Python Programming โข ๐ฟ๐๐ ๐ธ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ โ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143942 [https://pleroma.site/objects/937cd9f8-c608-4366-82d0-d2b8e167bd6e] | Nov 02 22:21 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: 5 reasons to use GNU/Linux in 2020 โข ๐ฟ๐๐ ๐ธ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ โ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143944 [https://pleroma.site/objects/6af85d8a-a2a9-4756-ad6d-5ed31a1417ca] | Nov 02 22:28 | |
| *psydread (eace4d91cc@2a01:7c8:aab8:6b9:5054:ff:fec9:fd84) has left #techrights | Nov 02 22:31 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Linux Lite 5.2 Released: Hereโs Whatโs New http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143862#comment-26999 [https://pleroma.site/objects/580e5fd5-ecb0-4e9b-9f36-41e41c16f095] | Nov 02 22:31 | |
| schestowitz | vZS1_techrights: cool | Nov 02 22:33 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Orange Pi Zero 2 mini PC now available for $16 (Android 10 or Linux, Ethernet, WiFi, and Bluetooth) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143935#comment-26995 [https://pleroma.site/objects/12ef9b36-7ede-4471-bd4e-43cc2840b4a2] | Nov 02 22:35 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Raspberry Pi 400 released - A keyboard with a built-in Computer http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143919#comment-26997 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a753408c-ce1f-4717-bfed-53b86087a0f7] | Nov 02 22:36 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers โข ๐ฟ๐๐ ๐ธ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ โ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143943 [https://pleroma.site/objects/7d5c7053-aeb4-4554-9f0a-08be77d4eaba] | Nov 02 22:42 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Announcing the Librem Mini V2 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143939 [https://pleroma.site/objects/969940ef-9780-4b2e-bca3-a11361215e5a] | Nov 02 22:44 | |
| *vZS1_techrights has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Nov 02 22:45 | |
| *rianne__ has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | Nov 02 22:45 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Librem Mini v2 is a little Linux PC with Intel Comet Lake http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143937 [https://pleroma.site/objects/4d8367ff-333a-45c6-b9f1-4679751b09c3] | Nov 02 22:45 | |
| *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-169-118.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Nov 02 22:45 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Raku Programming โข ๐ฟ๐๐ ๐ธ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ โ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143945 [https://pleroma.site/objects/dd534d7c-cea3-4124-814d-bf01011b5819] | Nov 02 22:52 | |
| *vZS1_techrights (~vZS1_tech@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights | Nov 02 23:06 | |
| *vZS1_techrights has quit (Client Quit) | Nov 02 23:08 | |
| *vZS1_techrights (~vZS1_tech@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights | Nov 02 23:08 | |
| *vZS1_techrights has quit (Client Quit) | Nov 02 23:09 | |
| *vZS1_techrights (~vZS1_tech@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights | Nov 02 23:09 | |
| *vZS1_techrights is now known as vZS1_guix | Nov 02 23:11 | |
| *vZS1_guix is now known as vZS1 | Nov 02 23:11 | |
| *vZS1 has quit (Client Quit) | Nov 02 23:12 | |
| *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights | Nov 02 23:12 | |
| schestowitz | vZS1: [22:52] [Notice] -viera to #techrights- Tux Machines: Raku Programming โข ๐ฟ๐๐ ๐ธ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ โ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143945 [https://pleroma.site/objects/dd534d7c-cea3-4124-814d-bf01011b5819] | Nov 02 23:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raku Programming | Tux Machines | Nov 02 23:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleroma.site | Nov 02 23:14 | |
| schestowitz | we had enough of them this time around for a dedicated lump/cluster of links | Nov 02 23:14 |
| vZS1 | Nice | Nov 02 23:15 |
| vZS1 | I've been drowning in programming languages lately | Nov 02 23:15 |
| vZS1 | C, Raku, Guile, Bash, Python, Go | Nov 02 23:15 |
| vZS1 | Been using in all of them | Nov 02 23:16 |
| vZS1 | using all* | Nov 02 23:16 |
| vZS1 | Let me check my RSS | Nov 02 23:16 |
| vZS1 | I've spent all evening today tinkering with Guix. | Nov 02 23:19 |
| vZS1 | I should have a faint clue of what I'm doing in a few more days | Nov 02 23:20 |
| vZS1 | Looks very promising though. Package management is very simple so it's user-friendly | Nov 02 23:20 |
| vZS1 | Has support for GNU IceCat | Nov 02 23:21 |
| vZS1 | They also have a go-ipfs package | Nov 02 23:21 |
| vZS1 | And it's 100% Free Software | Nov 02 23:22 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Excellent System Utilities: Ventoy http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143899#comment-27000 [https://pleroma.site/objects/399519b3-88c8-470b-8343-f69a2394b95a] | Nov 02 23:22 | |
| vZS1 | Think I've found my replacement for Debian | Nov 02 23:23 |
| vZS1 | schestowitz: after what you brought up about Debian I want to stay no where near it. | Nov 02 23:23 |
| schestowitz | what about Debian? | Nov 02 23:26 |
| schestowitz | Google? | Nov 02 23:26 |
| schestowitz | guix is run by anti-RMS folks | Nov 02 23:26 |
| schestowitz | so I lost interest in it | Nov 02 23:26 |
| vZS1 | It's a very innovative system | Nov 02 23:27 |
| schestowitz | I am suspicious of people who work for IBM and want RMS exterminated | Nov 02 23:27 |
| schestowitz | esp. as they base it on a distortion of RMS and his stance | Nov 02 23:27 |
| vZS1 | Re: Debian. The links to British intelligence | Nov 02 23:27 |
| schestowitz | alleged | Nov 02 23:28 |
| vZS1 | Alleged | Nov 02 23:28 |
| schestowitz | Assange and Appelbaum were involved | Nov 02 23:28 |
| schestowitz | one was canceled | Nov 02 23:28 |
| schestowitz | Assange is wrongly quoted as saying that the Debian project fell into hands of spies | Nov 02 23:28 |
| schestowitz | Wikileaks denied he had said that | Nov 02 23:29 |
| schestowitz | I won't link to it | Nov 02 23:29 |
| schestowitz | you can easily find it by searching the Web | Nov 02 23:29 |
| vZS1 | Can't be too picky with our tech when good ideas are to scarce to come by | Nov 02 23:30 |
| vZS1 | are so* | Nov 02 23:30 |
| schestowitz | can't be too gullible either | Nov 02 23:35 |
| schestowitz | when your sources depend on it | Nov 02 23:35 |
| schestowitz | software sources, site sources etc. | Nov 02 23:35 |
| schestowitz | Debian is still relatively trustworthy (to me) | Nov 02 23:35 |
| schestowitz | I think their issues are inherently different | Nov 02 23:35 |
| schestowitz | Debian isn't any more compromised than IBM/Fedora | Nov 02 23:36 |
| schestowitz | and many distros are based on these | Nov 02 23:36 |
| schestowitz | so they take downstream what IBM and Debian work on | Nov 02 23:36 |
| schestowitz | there's not that many -- distro-wise -- truly independent | Nov 02 23:36 |
| schestowitz | even arch linux is now linked to SPI | Nov 02 23:37 |
| schestowitz | SPI = Google et al | Nov 02 23:37 |
| vZS1 | If it blows up in my face so be it. Can't learn without playing with fire sometimes | Nov 02 23:38 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: SiFive shows there is life in RISC-V http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143795#comment-27001 [https://pleroma.site/objects/c527d980-b727-4078-b1a4-c1053eff2ff3] | Nov 02 23:41 | |
| schestowitz | SPI = also Microsoft now | Nov 02 23:42 |
| vZS1 | The big day tomorrow | Nov 02 23:49 |
| vZS1 | All this build up | Nov 02 23:49 |
| vZS1 | Let's see how it turns out | Nov 02 23:49 |
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.6 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!
