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DaemonFC[m]I make Mandy use hand sanitizer before he gets in the car, throw all of his clothes straight into the bin when he comes home, then go right to the shower and scrub down.Jul 03 00:00
AVRSgloves must be cheap thenJul 03 00:00
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AVRSbut then you have a car, and using gloves is not that hard compared to the usefulnessJul 03 00:01
cybrNauti just noticed most of my hand sanitizer is 70%, which is good enough apparently.  I do have one bottle of 62%, and I was told we have 90% isopropal somewhere.. should i add that?  anything else?Jul 03 00:01
AVRScybrNaut: isoprop_y_l, isopropanolJul 03 00:02
DaemonFC[m]Between gloves, hand sanitizer, and the three masks, I've managed to avoid the virus, and so has he.Jul 03 00:02
DaemonFC[m]So it's about having a procedure and sticking to it and not letting your guard down.Jul 03 00:02
DaemonFC[m]Then sooner or later everyone around you will have gotten it.Jul 03 00:02
cybrNautnow i wonder if the grocer-provided wet wipes are sufficientJul 03 00:03
DaemonFC[m]I don't trust that someone making minimum wage sanitized my cart.Jul 03 00:03
cybrNautwell in our case no one does that.. they have a big dispensor of wipes and we just help ourselvesJul 03 00:04
DaemonFC[m]That's part of Mandy's job. Sanitizing the carts at Walmart.Jul 03 00:04
cybrNautand my grocer had been doing this for years, so they may not have researched whether it's sufficient for the virusJul 03 00:04
DaemonFC[m]He actually does do it.Jul 03 00:04
DaemonFC[m]Most of them just go play on their phone in the restroom.Jul 03 00:04
DaemonFC[m]That's why I wouldn't trust that it's even being done.Jul 03 00:04
AVRShm, isoprop(yl)+al(cohol) ≈ isopropal, okJul 03 00:06
AVRSmaybe chemically wrong, but oh well, no ideaJul 03 00:06
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schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: 51k cases nowJul 03 00:07
schestowitz5000 deaths so far todayJul 03 00:08
schestowitzstill not taking the numbers down, on averageJul 03 00:08
DaemonFC[m]Well, it's like 610 deaths today in the US, but I think we'll start seeing that number go up quite a bit sometime next week.Jul 03 00:09
DaemonFC[m]It takes 15-40 days to ultimately kill people usually after a diagnosis.Jul 03 00:10
MinceRchemically wrongJul 03 00:10
DaemonFC[m]So we're a few days off from seeing the figures come in from when it started getting really bad again.Jul 03 00:10
schestowitzI saw articles today aboyt Houston TXJul 03 00:10
schestowitzThey're running out of capacity/bedsJul 03 00:11
schestowitzor ran out alreadyJul 03 00:11
schestowitzso I guess FL might be the sameJul 03 00:11
MinceR"isopropanol" and "isopropyl alcohol" are both correct, thoughJul 03 00:11
MinceRwell, except apparently IUPAC considers "isopropanol" to be wrongJul 03 00:11
MinceR:)Jul 03 00:11
MinceRthey do consider "propan-2-ol" to be correct thoughJul 03 00:12
DaemonFC[m]So much about "corralling" the virus.Jul 03 00:14
DaemonFC[m]Yee haw. Ride 'em cowboy!Jul 03 00:14
DaemonFC[m]Yippee Ki Yay, motherfucker!Jul 03 00:14
MinceR:>Jul 03 00:14
cybrNautmy wipes have 0 alcohol or bleach.. only ammonium chloride -- will that work or am i just pissing in the wind?Jul 03 00:17
DaemonFC[m]Alcohol, chlorine bleach, or hydrogen peroxide are all effective.Jul 03 00:18
DaemonFC[m]Don't mix them, obviously.Jul 03 00:18
DaemonFC[m]Or inject them, or inhale them.Jul 03 00:18
DaemonFC[m]Trump voters.Jul 03 00:18
MinceR:>Jul 03 00:19
DaemonFC[m]Or drink fish tank cleaner.Jul 03 00:19
AVRSsuperglue + cotton… no virus, I guess… only cinderJul 03 00:19
cybrNautmy hydrogen peroxide is no longer fizzy.. i think that means it's uselessJul 03 00:19
MinceRneutron bombs work tooJul 03 00:19
MinceRbut gamma ray bursts work betterJul 03 00:19
AVRSwait, that's not an English meaning of that wordJul 03 00:19
AVRSashesJul 03 00:20
DaemonFC[m]I'm sure the police thought there was something fishy going on there when fish tank cleaner guy's wife drank some too and didn't die.Jul 03 00:20
DaemonFC[m]Sometimes people will poison themselves a little bit to throw off suspicions.Jul 03 00:20
DaemonFC[m]There was a case where a guy killed his wife by leaving the car running in the garage while he slept in another room with the vents closed and the windows open.Jul 03 00:21
DaemonFC[m]Then he called 911 and said he found his wife dead.Jul 03 00:21
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DaemonFC[m]He tried to blame the water heater.Jul 03 00:22
DaemonFC[m]The cops said that's great, except we found engine soot from your car all over the wall. Water heaters don't run on gasoline. Jul 03 00:22
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DaemonFC[m]You shouldn't overestimate your chances in pulling one over on the cops.Jul 03 00:28
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DaemonFC[m]He might have gotten away with it had he moved a desk in front of the vent or something ,Jul 03 00:29
DaemonFC[m]The cops didn't even notice the soot until they were going over crime scene photos later and one of them said "What's that?".Jul 03 00:29
DaemonFC[m]He had painted over it, but it was still under there.Jul 03 00:30
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schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: 53k+Jul 03 00:44
schestowitzThe US now has more than a third of the world's 'active' cases of #covid19 (which are known)Jul 03 00:45
MinceRUhmerica First!Jul 03 00:46
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: That was Hillary Clinton's comment when we got to 1 million cases.Jul 03 00:46
DaemonFC[m]She said Trump finally made America #1 in something.Jul 03 00:47
MinceR:>Jul 03 00:47
MinceRit used to be #1 in obesity, wasn't it?Jul 03 00:47
DaemonFC[m]Australia's up there too. Think they might have beaten us.Jul 03 00:48
DaemonFC[m]Anyway, this acne thing is starting to flare up again.Jul 03 00:48
DaemonFC[m]Keep popping a zit that is trying to form and hitting it with hand sanitizer.Jul 03 00:49
DaemonFC[m]Hurts like crazy but eventually it goes away.Jul 03 00:49
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DaemonFC[m]+53,104Jul 03 00:50
DaemonFC[m]105,000 cases in two days. Also, we're not done for the day for another.....hour?Jul 03 00:50
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DaemonFC[m]53,733Jul 03 01:05
DaemonFC[m]Maybe up to 30 million people have or have had it by now.Jul 03 01:05
DaemonFC[m]About 1 in 10 of the US population.Jul 03 01:06
DaemonFC[m]It takes something like 70% to reach herd immunity.Jul 03 01:06
DaemonFC[m]I think we could be talking a million dead.Jul 03 01:06
DaemonFC[m]More maybe.Jul 03 01:07
DaemonFC[m]We still don't know how long immunity is for or how good it is.Jul 03 01:07
DaemonFC[m]My guess is that at some point, the death rate will crash though because it's picked off all the people most likely to die from it and because people have been exposed.Jul 03 01:08
DaemonFC[m]There's virtually no chance we get a working vaccine in time to matter much.Jul 03 01:08
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schestowitzrianne: 03 01:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Severe Neurological Ailments Reported in COVID-19 Patients | The Scientist Magazine®Jul 03 01:15
DaemonFC[m]"Texas carved out several exemptions to the [mask] order, waiving the requirement for religious services."Jul 03 01:17
DaemonFC[m]Wunderbar!Jul 03 01:17
DaemonFC[m]I remember commercials like the ones we're seeing now.Jul 03 01:20
DaemonFC[m]Tide running ads that say it's worth it to pay more for their detergent because the others are "watered down".Jul 03 01:20
DaemonFC[m]Ironically, they make a watered down Tide called Tide Basic.Jul 03 01:20
DaemonFC[m] 03 01:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Did restaurants escape the bankruptcy wave? Not reallyJul 03 01:25
DaemonFC[m]Potbelly: Got Paycheck Protection Act money....Files Bankruptcy anyway...Gives CEO bonus money.Jul 03 01:25
MinceRdo they also make a product called Tide Acidic?Jul 03 01:26
DaemonFC[m]Trolling the bankruptcy court seems to be standard practice, if you're a corporation.Jul 03 01:26
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: Nice,Jul 03 01:26
DaemonFC[m]Anyway, mom uses it. I told her I tried it and I just didn't like how it made my clothes smell.Jul 03 01:26
DaemonFC[m]It'll get dirt, sweat, etc. out of them, but they don't smell good, and it's pretty much useless on stains.Jul 03 01:27
DaemonFC[m]So I just spend more on orange box Tide.Jul 03 01:27
DaemonFC[m]Amazon has a very concentrated gel version in a bag-in-box setup.Jul 03 01:27
DaemonFC[m]Seems factual, at least. They are the most expensive detergent brand on the shelf, but you only use about half (or, now, a third) as much.Jul 03 01:29
DaemonFC[m]They seem to have it priced about the same per load whether you go powder or liquid. Jul 03 01:31
DaemonFC[m]It used to be that the powder was the way to minimize the per-load price.Jul 03 01:32
DaemonFC[m]I guess now that they finally finished sucking all the water out of the liquid stuff, the economics are somewhat different.Jul 03 01:32
DaemonFC[m]Back in the 90s you got these really massive jugs of detergent, but you had to use an entire giant cap full of it to get your clothes done.Jul 03 01:33
DaemonFC[m]Now you use like 3-4 ounces, maybe.Jul 03 01:33
DaemonFC[m]The powder was probably cheap because there was no liquid in it to give them those ridiculously huge jug sizes so that it looked like they had "more stuff" inside than the other guy.Jul 03 01:33
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: So then Walmart gets pissed off because they're devoting so much truck and warehouse and floor space to these giant bottles of detergent.Jul 03 01:35
DaemonFC[m]So they actually demanded that they all knock it off and go on an ad blitz to inform people of why the laundry soap bottle was smaller.Jul 03 01:36
DaemonFC[m]Because they had spent years killing the planet to water down your detergent to convince you that you got MOAR.Jul 03 01:36
DaemonFC[m]I always joked about how in 2020 or so we'd have 10 gallon jugs of Tide to do 50 loads of laundry.Jul 03 01:37
DaemonFC[m]That was the way it was heading. :)Jul 03 01:37
schestowitzwow, 57k nowJul 03 01:39
schestowitzmight make it to 60kJul 03 01:40
schestowitzmaybe 100k like fauci predicted by month's endJul 03 01:40
schestowitzthese things are quadratic in nature if there's no proper quarantineJul 03 01:40
schestowitzthe market would collapse again if that happenedJul 03 01:40
schestowitz"market" = rich people's Wall Street gambling zoneJul 03 01:40
MinceRnot exponential?Jul 03 01:41
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz Well, bankruptcy court is the endgame here for business and people alike.Jul 03 01:41
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: some businesses shut down because of lack of respect for masksJul 03 01:42
DaemonFC[m]Like most, I reach the same conclusion, I just get there faster.Jul 03 01:42
schestowitzfrom clientsJul 03 01:42
schestowitzwho pretend it's just a stuntJul 03 01:42
schestowitzand don't obey or troll staffJul 03 01:42
schestowitzso they shut down the restaurants, it's not worth itJul 03 01:42
schestowitzMinceR: eitherJul 03 01:42
schestowitzor sort of linear "plus"Jul 03 01:43
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, I guess that diner here in Waukegan that puts pubes in your omelet won't make it.Jul 03 01:43
schestowitzthe "plus" because people don't act totally reckless, most still try to contain the spreadJul 03 01:43
DaemonFC[m]So sad. Alexa, play Desposito.Jul 03 01:43
schestowitzso it's like n+n(8/10)x^2Jul 03 01:43
schestowitzthe pubs open here todayJul 03 01:44
schestowitz4th of July actuallyJul 03 01:44
schestowitzso tomorrowJul 03 01:44
schestowitzSaturdayJul 03 01:44
schestowitzwith stupid rulesJul 03 01:44
schestowitzlike masksJul 03 01:44
schestowitzhow can you drink with mask onJul 03 01:44
schestowitzand if you isolate people, what's the point fo a pub?Jul 03 01:44
schestowitzit's all about socialisingJul 03 01:45
schestowitzand people shout at each other with saliva and phlegm Jul 03 01:45
schestowitzotherwise they cannot hear each other in a crowded placeJul 03 01:45
schestowitzso it's more about pretending to be trying to salvage brasseriesJul 03 01:45
DaemonFC[m]Expensive beer and 6 feet apart.Jul 03 01:45
schestowitzthan about doing something to appease the "masses"Jul 03 01:45
schestowitzmaybe use the beer as hand sanitiserJul 03 01:46
schestowitzlolJul 03 01:46
schestowitz"hey, baby, would you like me to buy you a drink? Love your mask!!"Jul 03 01:47
schestowitzRe: Techrights uses wordsJul 03 01:49
schestowitz> Your website's use of words offends me.Jul 03 01:49
schestowitz> Jul 03 01:49
DaemonFC[m]Beer is only 4 or 5 percent alcohol.Jul 03 01:49
schestowitz> I don't mean any specific words, I'm offended by words in general. I would ask you to consider not using them from now on.Jul 03 01:49
schestowitz> Jul 03 01:49
schestowitz> I realise this request may sound hypocritical at first, as it also uses words, but that's something I'm working on. I would prefer that you (and everyone else) use pictures without captions from now on, and I'm currently working on a graphical image and a hand gesture that conveys this.Jul 03 01:49
DaemonFC[m]I noticed that there's a coin shortage now.Jul 03 01:50
DaemonFC[m]Some retailers are limiting their self checks to card only.Jul 03 01:51
MinceR03 024445 < schestowitz> how can you drink with mask onJul 03 01:57
MinceRstraw built into the maskJul 03 01:57
MinceRwith valveJul 03 01:57
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: The rich ran off to doomsday bunkers to ride this thing out.Jul 03 02:00
schestowitzMinceR: might not help if someone sneezes near youJul 03 02:04
schestowitzor has dirty handsJul 03 02:04
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I told mom on the phone about that and I said, "It's likely already a big problem in Indiana and Illinois already and they just haven't started diagnosing the increased cases yet.".Jul 03 02:04
schestowitzManchester now 15th on the list of areas worst affected by covid19 in the UKJul 03 02:05
DaemonFC[m]I wouldn't be surprised if we end up seeing a day or more where Florida hits 20,000.Jul 03 02:05
schestowitzEngland I meanJul 03 02:05
schestowitznot UKJul 03 02:05
schestowitzmany restaurants here closing downJul 03 02:06
schestowitzpermanentlyJul 03 02:06
schestowitzrianne is reading about it nowJul 03 02:06
schestowitzplaces where we ate beforeJul 03 02:06
schestowitzthey will never reopen Jul 03 02:06
schestowitzend of an eraJul 03 02:06
insmodppaschestowitz: Re: E-mail: 03 02:06
schestowitzinsmodppa: they canceled him partlyJul 03 02:07
schestowitzhe got a "formal warning"Jul 03 02:07
schestowitza year ahead of RMSJul 03 02:07
schestowitzwhose presence in GNU was made conditional and flakyJul 03 02:07
schestowitzcybrNaut: the ddg article now up to 8.3k viewsJul 03 02:08
schestowitzand I got some email regarding thatJul 03 02:08
insmodppaSorry, that just came to mind as a fitting response when I read your "offended by words" quote, especially where it involves a "hand gesture".Jul 03 02:13
MinceRschestowitz: straw with valve built into the mask of an NBC suitJul 03 02:18
MinceRor of a suit of environmentally sealed power armorJul 03 02:18
MinceR(more of a helmet than a mask, but anyway)Jul 03 02:19
DaemonFC[m] 03 02:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-New, mutant version of coronavirus spreads faster, but doesn't make people sicker - CNNJul 03 02:23
DaemonFC[m] 03 02:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bracing for a second shutdown - CNNJul 03 02:26
DaemonFC[m]Well, in Illinois, the new Minimum Wage Law is still phasing in.Jul 03 02:26
DaemonFC[m]So many people got a raise yesterday....Jul 03 02:26
DaemonFC[m]Including Burger King workers at that franchise that cut their pay 50 cents an hour. The law reversed that.Jul 03 02:26
DaemonFC[m]At least, in Illinois.Jul 03 02:27
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: It's possible that this "mutation" was engineered and then released.Jul 03 02:30
DaemonFC[m]It would overtake the original version of the virus rapidly and get it through the population faster.Jul 03 02:31
DaemonFC[m]What was a 14-16 month wait for 70% to become infected turns into a 5 month wait after the new version starts making the rounds. Jul 03 02:32
DaemonFC[m]Then the government can say "Well, that was horrible.... Okay back to work!".Jul 03 02:32
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DaemonFC[m]A faster spreading virus is the next best thing to a vaccine. If you're going to wait a year for a vaccine and it is only 70% effective and half the people go "I don't want mah family being autistic! Herp derp!" you just release the kraken.Jul 03 02:34
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schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: it'll spread faster the more people contract itJul 03 06:26
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, so we have Super COVID and a bunch of fucking retards.Jul 03 06:26
schestowitzUS already has 1.5 million confirmed active cases, compared to about 5,000 in GermanyJul 03 06:26
DaemonFC[m]100,000 a day  might be an underestimate eventually.Jul 03 06:27
schestowitzlike 60k dead at the end wasJul 03 06:27
schestowitzfauci'sJul 03 06:27
schestowitzmaybe trump forced him to say it or be firedJul 03 06:27
DaemonFC[m]No, that was Trump's.Jul 03 06:27
DaemonFC[m]Fauce said 150,000 with mitigation and 200,000-300,000 if we didn't do anything.Jul 03 06:27
DaemonFC[m]Then Trump's gut told him 60,000, and then that's when it would stop. It'd be just like a flu season.Jul 03 06:28
DaemonFC[m]We're well on our way to triple that right now.Jul 03 06:28
DaemonFC[m]Definitely will have by the end of August I'd say with all of these new cases coming in.Jul 03 06:28
DaemonFC[m]In April, that ridiculous IMHE model said 132,000 by August 4th. It's basically there now.Jul 03 06:29
DaemonFC[m]Will be by end of day Friday, more than a month before they said it would.Jul 03 06:29
DaemonFC[m]Nobody wanted to tell the truth so they're just breaking it off in pieces.Jul 03 06:30
DaemonFC[m]*FauciJul 03 06:30
DaemonFC[m]Anyway, I think Trump would have gotten rid of him already except he needs someone with some credibility to say all clear eventually.Jul 03 06:31
DaemonFC[m]Dr. Phil only works for Fox News.Jul 03 06:31
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DaemonFC[m]Let the past die. Kill it if you have to.Jul 03 06:38
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schestowitz[06:31] <DaemonFC[m]> Dr. Phil only works for Fox News.Jul 03 06:42
schestowitzthat's another branch of the governmentJul 03 06:43
schestowitzwith more TV viewersJul 03 06:43
schestowitz 03 06:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Karl-Tux-Stadt » Blog Archi » Help needed!Jul 03 06:49
schestowitzhe used to be in suseJul 03 06:49
schestowitznow fedoraJul 03 06:49
schestowitzSirko KemterJul 03 06:49
schestowitz"This year is truly not my year. First with COVID-19 and the closing of the schools I lost the job, thought would be ok as I had saved enough for nearly 3 month living and at least I would find something in this 3 months. I did run nearly out of it then I found something, a company I applied for more then 12 months ago. The problem a stable internet connection been needed, normally not that problem here, except the house I did live in.Jul 03 06:49
schestowitzBecause the house owner doesnt care, I told him a day as the internet wasnt available for 4 days that this cant be, but guess what just on the first working day the internet was gone and came back 4 days later. So this job opportunity been gone. I did nearly run out of money, so I sold my motobike, as long there is no school I would not need it. It took me a while to sell it, and of course I lost some money with that. But enough for Jul 03 06:49
schestowitzgoing another 2 months. Unfortunately the money been stolen. Lucky me, I got another opportunity to earn some money, in the next edition of the german LinuxUser there will be an article of me. And the best the want a whole series written from me, so enough work until the years end. What is very good as the government just announced that the schools stay closed until the end of the year. So far so good, if I would not be haunted by bad Jul 03 06:49
schestowitzluck. Last week on wednesday on the way back from the embassy my laptop bag been stolen, of course with the laptop, the phone, SD card and external hard disc and everything else I need for work. Lucky me normally the passport is in it to, but I took it out at the embassy."Jul 03 06:49
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schestowitzcybrNaut: now 12kJul 03 07:10
schestowitzthis page has just been modified 03 07:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Active kernel releasesJul 03 07:10
schestowitzI have not checked Wayback MachineJul 03 07:10
schestowitzbut...Jul 03 07:10
schestowitzI don't think a Microsoft employee (Levin) in all the releases is the changeJul 03 07:11
schestowitzThey probably just extended the data of some longterm support releaseJul 03 07:11
schestowitzif anyone wants to have a go at itJul 03 07:11
schestowitzcompare to old version of this pageJul 03 07:11
schestowitzas recent as last week/monthJul 03 07:11
schestowitzfind the diffJul 03 07:11
schestowitz 03 07:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Making open source more inclusive by eradicating problematic languageJul 03 07:14
schestowitz 03 07:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Scala contributor: Open source and diversity key to tackling dev skills shortage • The RegisterJul 03 07:15
psydreadfor a kernel for an operating system that is only on 4% of computers? we've got better things to do than that such as singing the praises of WSL3Jul 03 07:16
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schestowitzWSL is an attack on gnu linuxJul 03 07:20
schestowitzbut I see more people at least 'get' it nowJul 03 07:20
schestowitzdirectX was a bit of a wake-up call for someJul 03 07:21
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psydreadI see that number of 4% being peddled now or more like 95% VistaJul 03 07:22
scientesDUGJul 03 07:22
scientes*DUHJul 03 07:23
psydreadso I'm thinking that Vista fans are intentionally inflating numbers to make it look as if Vista is still dominant, maybe that's the last thing left for themJul 03 07:23
scientesVista is EOF, i.e. shit-out-of-luckJul 03 07:23
scientesbut anyways, there is far more important stuff going onJul 03 07:23
scientesand no-one gives a shit about windowsJul 03 07:23
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scientesunless you are getting the kick-backs they use to keep people using itJul 03 07:24
schestowitzwe need to make windows extinctJul 03 07:26
schestowitzthis can take a whileJul 03 07:27
schestowitzit's doableJul 03 07:27
schestowitzWindows market share is not about a thirdJul 03 07:27
schestowitzowing to Android mostlyJul 03 07:27
schestowitzI added a screenshot here: 03 07:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | To Better Understand Why Microsoft is Laying Off Staff (and Stopped Hiring Any) Check the Charts Net Applications and Other Microsoft Spinners Distract From | TechrightsJul 03 07:28
psydreadeven cult members know that, which is why they keep resorting to misrepresenting the numbersJul 03 07:28
schestowitzfor webservers Microsoft is 4.7% and DECREASINGJul 03 07:28
schestowitzsoon they'll need to declare eof, end of product for IISJul 03 07:28
psydreadit's like they want others to believe the lies they tell themselvesJul 03 07:28
schestowitzdue to not enough money coming in from its usersJul 03 07:29
schestowitzpsydread: the whole, LINUX IS GROWING, Windows still at over 90% is a lieJul 03 07:29
schestowitzas I pointed out beforeJul 03 07:29
schestowitzthey don't even cOUNT CHROMEBOOK!!Jul 03 07:29
schestowitzapparently chromebooks has more share in American schools than Windows nowJul 03 07:30
schestowitzcanada/usJul 03 07:30
schestowitznot sure about eu/asiaJul 03 07:30
psydreadschestowitz, I called people out on that and never got a response, it's like they know they can't fool all people all of the timeJul 03 07:31
schestowitzKeep on repeating the trueJul 03 07:32
schestowitzsome of it will stickJul 03 07:32
schestowitzit doesn't always stick the same time aroundJul 03 07:32
schestowitzbe repetitive where it's worth itJul 03 07:32
schestowitzshatter the 'popular myths'Jul 03 07:32
schestowitzThis is the firm that says Microsoft has 90% of the market: 03 07:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | GNU/Linux Market Share - TechrightsJul 03 07:33
schestowitzlook under the section of relevantJul 03 07:33
schestowitzif the windows is too wide and it doesn't go to the directive #Net_ApplicationsJul 03 07:33
schestowitzwe wrote about them ages agoJul 03 07:34
schestowitzthey uses to be the PRIME source of FUD against usJul 03 07:34
schestowitzsaying Linux was like 0.5%Jul 03 07:34
schestowitzwe need more people out there to respond to FUDJul 03 07:36
schestowitzand correct these lieJul 03 07:37
psydreadso could it be the case that the numbers have deliberately been underestimated for decades and they were higher all along, but that wouldn't be in line with their narrative that Windows is still dominant?Jul 03 07:37
schestowitzThis was published hours ago by PCLOS Magazine 03 07:37
schestowitzbased on techrightsJul 03 07:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | “Microsoft’s Deadly Love” by Alessandro Ebersol (Agent Smith) | TechrightsJul 03 07:37
schestowitzso our explanation of the problem finds wider audienceJul 03 07:37
schestowitzpsydread: yes, I wrote about that 13 years agoJul 03 07:38
schestowitz 03 07:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Can Linux Adoption Ever be Accurately Gauged?Jul 03 07:38
schestowitzit's even in wikipedia, or was... cited in itJul 03 07:38
schestowitzthat was ages agoJul 03 07:39
schestowitzthey basically ridicule anyone who refutes their claims that they repeat endlesslyJul 03 07:39
schestowitzas that's how a cult would operateJul 03 07:39
scientesnon-free software is always a cultJul 03 07:39
schestowitzEuroPython 2020: Our keynotes Guido van Rossum included Jul 03 07:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | EuroPython Blog — EuroPython 2020: Our keynotesJul 03 07:39
schestowitzI wonder if he'll be asked some trick questionJul 03 07:40
schestowitzto make him look like an a-holeJul 03 07:40
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schestowitz 03 08:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Mozilla's analysis: Brazil’s fake news law harms privacy, security, and free expression - Open Policy & AdvocacyJul 03 08:11
schestowitz"UPDATE: On 30 June 2020, the Brazilian Senate passed “PLS 2630/2020” (the fake news law) with some key amendments that made government identity verification for accounts optional, excluded social media networks from the mandatory traceability provision (while keeping this requirement in place for messaging services like Signal and Whats App) and some other scope related changes. All the other concerns highlighted below remain a Jul 03 08:11
schestowitzpart of the bill passed by the Senate. Additionally, Article 37 of the law mandates that social networks and private messaging apps must appoint legal representatives in Brazil with the power to remotely access to user databases/logs. This pseudo data localization measure poses massive privacy concerns while undermining the due process protections provided by US laws such as the CLOUD Act and Electronic Communications Privacy Act. BothJul 03 08:11
schestowitzof these laws require US providers to satisfy certain procedural safeguards before turning over private data to foreign law enforcement agents."Jul 03 08:11
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oiaohmpsydread: I would not say always deliberately wrong.   You would expect your average Linux user to be very hard to count.    Like way more likely to be using items like umatrix and the like blocking statistic collecting sites.Jul 03 08:21
oiaohmSome areas super computers we can get a count on Linux usage.Jul 03 08:22
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oiaohmschestowitz:  psydroid;  Another area where we can get fairly good number is on the cloud but you have over 25% being some.   Yes windows by this count is running less than 7% of cloud services provided stuff with 93% being Linux.Jul 03 08:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | The Cloud Market: EC2 StatisticsJul 03 08:32
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oiaohm   this one is getting funny unless we are very close to the dominate item on each stat area being other as in unable to determine.Jul 03 08:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | June 2020 Web Server Survey | Netcraft NewsJul 03 08:44
psydreadoiaohm, this explains why MS seems like a headless chicken going in a 1000 different directions these days, it looks like they are preparing to go out with a (big) bangJul 03 08:49
psydreadlosing on the server side, losing more and more on the client side, dead on phones and other devicesJul 03 08:49
psydreadwhere will it all end for them ...Jul 03 08:50
oiaohmWhat is happening with web server survey is those setting up websites are getting better as setting stuff not to give away what they are using.Jul 03 08:52
oiaohmas setting stuff/at setting stuffJul 03 08:52
oiaohmPhones we can get decent stats on as well.Jul 03 08:53
oiaohmYes the markets you can get solid stats in Microsoft is on the path to mega screwed.Jul 03 08:53
psydreadI am wondering at this point what the types of applications are that are missing on Linux and for which people are still inventing reasons to keep Windows aroundJul 03 09:05
Narratorpsydread: well, applications are not important, data areJul 03 09:06
oiaohmAdobe cloud is a big one.Jul 03 09:07
psydreadNarrator, I know, but people want to work with dataJul 03 09:07
oiaohmpsydread:   this is not the data you would be think of.Jul 03 09:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Sell stock photos, videos, vectors online | Adobe Stock ContributorJul 03 09:09
oiaohmadobe creative cloud products have intgeration into like this stock systems and so on to sell stuff to other users simpler.Jul 03 09:10
oiaohmYes the adobe stuff is a big thing.Jul 03 09:10
oiaohmNext would be your normal MS Office hell.  Yes you still get documents with MS Office that only open correctly with the windows version of MS Office and nothing else.Jul 03 09:11
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Narratorwell, we have cloud offices ... Jul 03 09:19
Narratorlot's of data connected to cloud Jul 03 09:19
Narratorit wil not work without cloudJul 03 09:19
oiaohmSome places it going to be fun the day their cloud service provider has a issue because they don't  have a working backup plan.Jul 03 09:21
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schestowitzoiaohm: thanks for the linkJul 03 10:25
schestowitzI didn't know they released another updateJul 03 10:25
schestowitzMSFT down more than 5% in a monthJul 03 10:25
schestowitzMicrosoft9,053,1594.72%8,551,2824.52%-0.20Jul 03 10:26
schestowitzlost half a million active sitesJul 03 10:26
schestowitz[09:19] <Narrator> well, we have cloud offices ... Jul 03 10:27
schestowitzsee what happened in venezuelaJul 03 10:27
schestowitzwhen they cut off access to adobe stuffJul 03 10:27
schestowitzbad strategyJul 03 10:27
schestowitzcio/cto that does clown computing is, well... a clownJul 03 10:27
psydreadoiaohm, that also says that when the old mousetrap stops working, Adobe and similar companies will spare no efforts to build an even better mousetrapJul 03 10:50
AriadneXRevan86: that fake russian ad has been playing in heavy rotation on cable here in the denver metroJul 03 11:20
oiaohmpsydread: not exactly adobe has to attempt to build a better cost effective mouse trap.   Adobe will have a lot of work with apple moving off x86.Jul 03 11:50
psydreadI think Adobe is being given far too much credit for what the company actually offers, but there seems to be a substantial part of businesses and individuals that likes being tied to the company's products like a drug addict needs his daily shot of heroinJul 03 11:55
oiaohmand that is the problem.Jul 03 11:56
oiaohmCompanies have workflows designed around having adobe stuff installed and access to their cloud to get stuff.Jul 03 11:56
oiaohmTrying to get them to give that up is really pushing it up hill due to the distributiohn it will cause.Jul 03 11:57
oiaohmUnless its like a case venezuela where adobe is forced to cut the cable.Jul 03 11:57
oiaohmMind you blender is kind of using the same cloud supply as a funding source model except with open source software.Jul 03 12:01
MinceRadobe wants SaaSS anyway, so they might as well run their atrocious crap on Backdoors on Azure and have the victims use it from a browser :>Jul 03 12:06
psydread"SaaSS: Software as a Sniper Shot, one wrong move and you're gone!"Jul 03 12:10
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MinceR:>Jul 03 12:17
xwindowsping ..Jul 03 12:17
xwindowsSame ole Microsoft shuffleJul 03 12:18
xwindows 03 12:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Microsoft is forcing Edge on Windows users with a spyware-like install - The VergeJul 03 12:18
schestowitzyupJul 03 12:31
schestowitzit's in tuxmachines alreadyJul 03 12:32
schestowitzrianne posted it thereJul 03 12:32
xwindowsWhat's in tuxmachines?Jul 03 12:32
acer-box__ 03 12:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | TwitterJul 03 12:36
xwindowsahh soo slorryJul 03 12:37
oiaohmQuestion is will Microsoft get into another lot of Anti-trust over it.Jul 03 12:47
xwindowsNot with the current climate in WashingtonJul 03 12:51
xwindowsGreed is good :]Jul 03 12:51
I3^RELATIVISMif yout ruly believe that, then you have drinked the cool-aidJul 03 12:53
I3^RELATIVISMyou hould analyse to which extent you have been manipulatedJul 03 12:53
xwindowsI was doing satire .. but the people in charge do actually believe that. That is why any penalty against MS was of the lukewarm varietyJul 03 12:56
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MinceRthe last time microshit got into that was long ago, and all they got was a slap on the wristJul 03 13:20
MinceRthe land of the fee loves monopoliesJul 03 13:20
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psydreadthey seem to be in a much more vulnerable position than they were back thenJul 03 13:29
psydreadso I expect a lot more of this to come in the near futureJul 03 13:29
psydreadif they are going down, they are going to all of free software down with themJul 03 13:30
psydreadat least that seems to be their thinkingJul 03 13:30
MinceRand a lot of people are helping themJul 03 13:36
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psydreadthat's why we need to put contingency plans in placeJul 03 13:48
psydreadfree software as a movement needs to survive, individual implementations don'y necessarily have toJul 03 13:49
psydreaddon't*Jul 03 13:49
scientesI honestly don't see the anger at MicrosoftJul 03 13:49
scientesthey are not the enegyJul 03 13:49
scientes*enemyJul 03 13:49
scientesI mean, they are, but there are bigger fish to fryJul 03 13:49
scientesthey are smallJul 03 13:49
scienteseven RMS said a long time ago, they are the symptomJul 03 13:50
psydreadmaybe they are most visible nowJul 03 13:50
MinceRthe ones controlling UEFI and the Linux-Destroying Foundation are "small"?Jul 03 13:50
psydreadbecause they have most at stakeJul 03 13:50
psydreadlosing all their home basesJul 03 13:50
MinceRnot to mention various patent trapsJul 03 13:50
psydreadand nowhere to goJul 03 13:51
psydreadbut the comments on that article show that MS psychopathy is still there and in full forceJul 03 13:59
psydreadnothing has changed in 30 yearsJul 03 14:00
MinceRthings got a lot worse in 30 yearsJul 03 14:00
psydreadyou're rightJul 03 14:01
psydreadback then you could use whatever operating system you wanted without the entire software stack being infiltrated by the company and its partnersJul 03 14:02
MinceRindeedJul 03 14:07
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AVRSschestowitz: about a change at — was that a question?Jul 03 17:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Active kernel releasesJul 03 17:23
AVRSBetween 20200517 and today, 3.16 was removed, and support for 4.19 and 5.4 extended 4 years.Jul 03 17:24
AVRSAlso the uname example updated.Jul 03 17:25
schestowitzThey edited it around May or June befireJul 03 17:36
schestowitzadded a few more years to LTSJul 03 17:36
schestowitzbut a day ago it was changed againJul 03 17:36
schestowitzand there's no changelog, it's not a wikiJul 03 17:36
schestowitzI am particularlt interested in the stewardship aspectJul 03 17:37
schestowitzbecause Levin works for Gates Jul 03 17:37
AVRSschestowitz: no change since 20200307Jul 03 17:44
AVRSschestowitz: Levin was added between 20190712 and 20200307Jul 03 17:46
AVRSno, 20190712-20191130Jul 03 17:46
AVRSno more detail in IAJul 03 17:46
AVRS 03 17:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | LKML: Greg KH: [PATCH] 3.18 is now maintained by Sasha LevinJul 03 17:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | LKML: Greg KH: [PATCH] 4.1 is now maintained by Sasha LevinJul 03 17:48
AVRSDoes Greg KH always describe maintainance extension like that?Jul 03 17:49
DaemonFC[m]The restaurant dining rooms are open.Jul 03 17:56
schestowitzlolJul 03 17:56
schestowitzgood luckJul 03 17:56
DaemonFC[m]Dennys has a bunch of flags and stuff out to draw people in and a packed parking lot.Jul 03 17:56
schestowitzrianne__ is watching a movie right now about a pediatrician who cannot walk after covid-19Jul 03 17:56
schestowitzmany people wrongly assume that if they can survive the thing it won't damage their bodiesJul 03 17:56
schestowitzlike brain damage and lungs with scars in themJul 03 17:57
schestowitzAVRS: yes, we noted thatJul 03 17:57
schestowitzAVRS: I can find the articles if you wantJul 03 17:57
schestowitzthey recently also added him in LF to administrative-ish roleJul 03 17:57
schestowitz 03 17:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Microsoft is Now in the Technical Advisory Board of the Linux Foundation | TechrightsJul 03 17:58
schestowitzAVRS: bottom line is, we wrote about it several more times, he seems to be gaining more of a foothold over timeJul 03 17:58
schestowitzthe page may have more evidence to that effect, hence I askedJul 03 17:58
schestowitzno version control as they alter those pages, just rss feed as alerting mechanism for pertinent pages changingJul 03 17:59
MinceR"I believe that whatever doesn't kill you only makes you... stranger."Jul 03 18:02
psydreadMicrosoft == LinuxJul 03 18:04
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DaemonFC[m]<MinceR ""I believe that whatever doesn't"> Why so serious?Jul 03 18:45
MinceRdo you want to know how i got these scars?Jul 03 18:46
DaemonFC[m]I just paid up the rent again at the hotel. It occurred to me that I've now been living here almost a year.Jul 03 18:46
DaemonFC[m]On the 27th.Jul 03 18:46
DaemonFC[m]The manager said someone has been living here for 5 years.Jul 03 18:46
DaemonFC[m]If you have shitty credit and stay past the tax exempt date, it really works out to about the same as a studio with utilities, wifi, and satellite TV.Jul 03 18:47
DaemonFC[m]So lots of people do just end up staying here indefinitely. Jul 03 18:47
DaemonFC[m]When the bankruptcy closes out, I'm going to have Mandy add me as an authorized user on his credit card and then one of the banks I filed against will help me heal my credit rating.Jul 03 18:48
MinceRyou can check out any time you likeJul 03 18:48
MinceRbut you can never leave!Jul 03 18:48
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, pretty much.Jul 03 18:48
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: I deposited his oldest outstanding paycheck and then waited for my direct deposit money.Jul 03 18:49
DaemonFC[m]I paid the rent with my deposit and then that check hits on Monday.Jul 03 18:49
DaemonFC[m]So the balance never exceeds what the Trustee can't grab/Jul 03 18:50
DaemonFC[m]Bankruptcy law is pretty tricky, really.Jul 03 18:51
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scientesDaemonFC[m], more-like slavery law AMIRITE?Jul 03 18:52
DaemonFC[m]By the time most people get to filing a voluntary Chapter 7, it's too late for the Trustee to get anything.Jul 03 18:53
DaemonFC[m]There's an involuntary Chapter 7 and 11 too, where your creditors can force you into bankruptcy.Jul 03 18:54
DaemonFC[m]It rarely gets used though because it can backfire on them badly and then they're on the hook for your legal bills and the court costs.Jul 03 18:54
DaemonFC[m]Typically, if you force a debtor into Chapter 7 and then there's nothing to take, their debt gets wiped out and you're the big dummy who pair to file their bankruptcy for them.Jul 03 18:54
DaemonFC[m]*paidJul 03 18:55
DaemonFC[m]It's only something that tends to get done if you believe you're dealing with a debtor who has significant assets, they're squandering them deliberately, and then they'll go file bankruptcy voluntarily when they're finished.Jul 03 18:56
DaemonFC[m]It's also kind of hard to do if they owe lots of people money.Jul 03 18:57
DaemonFC[m]If there's less than 12 creditors and the total debt is more than $15,060, then any individual creditor can try to force a debtor into bankruptcy, but if it's over 12 creditors, then at least half of them have to agree to do it. Jul 03 18:58
DaemonFC[m]In my case, a creditor could have forced me into bankruptcy, but it would have been a bad idea.Jul 03 18:58
scientesDaemonFC[m], you should force the federal government into chapter 7 bankruptcyJul 03 18:59
DaemonFC[m]They'd have been out the $350 fee to file bankruptcy and I would have had all my debt forgiven anyway.Jul 03 18:59
DaemonFC[m]<scientes "DaemonFC, you should force the f"> There is no law that provides for the federal or state governments to file bankruptcy.Jul 03 18:59
scientesDaemonFC[m], natural lawJul 03 18:59
DaemonFC[m]A local government can, subject to state law.Jul 03 19:00
DaemonFC[m]Illinois has no municipal bankruptcy law.Jul 03 19:00
scientesbut the federal government is bankruptJul 03 19:00
DaemonFC[m]If it did, then Chicago could go down to bankruptcy court and say it was filing Chapter 13 or Chapter 7 and under "type of debtor", instead of business or individual, they would check "Other" and write in "Municipal Government".Jul 03 19:00
scientesand the feds would check "Ponzi scheme"Jul 03 19:01
DaemonFC[m]They would then fill out the schedules like any other debtor would. They'd have to list any assets the city had, along with all of their debts.Jul 03 19:01
DaemonFC[m]A 13 would make the most sense for Chicago.Jul 03 19:01
DaemonFC[m]They have significant assets and they would probably want to exempt some stuff.Jul 03 19:02
scientesI sure somebody would could up a few coppers for all those nuclear warheads and toxic waste "super fun" zonesJul 03 19:02
DaemonFC[m]A 13 would roll their debts into a monthly payment at like 2-3% interest, and in 5 years the rest that was bundled would disappear. Jul 03 19:02
DaemonFC[m]They're paying like 8% right now on their loans, mostly.Jul 03 19:02
scientesDaemonFC[m], the federal government has been in 13 for a LONG timeJul 03 19:02
DaemonFC[m]So just getting it down to 2-3% would free up a lot of the city's money that it spends on debt service.Jul 03 19:03
scientesexcept that that no-body will load them any money anymoreJul 03 19:03
scientesall they can do is print itJul 03 19:03
DaemonFC[m]Then in 5 years, the remainder would be gone and if the city was responsible, then it would have no debt.Jul 03 19:03
DaemonFC[m]Chicago can't print money.Jul 03 19:03
DaemonFC[m]It can borrow or tax.Jul 03 19:03
DaemonFC[m]If the debt is reduced to 2-3% and there are some reasonable spending cuts, they can reduce their outflows to less than tax revenue and use the remainder to pay their bankruptcy plan.Jul 03 19:04
scientesnobody will loan them anythingJul 03 19:04
scientesand their tax-payers can't pay anythingJul 03 19:04
DaemonFC[m]Why should they be borrowing? That's why they need bankruptcy.Jul 03 19:04
DaemonFC[m]They need to cut spending, freeze taxes, and file bankruptcy. Now.Jul 03 19:04
scientesno, the feds need to file bankruptcyJul 03 19:05
scientesit is not relevent for anyone elseJul 03 19:05
DaemonFC[m]There's no incentive for the Federal government to stop spending.Jul 03 19:05
scienteseveryone else just needs a jubileeJul 03 19:05
DaemonFC[m]We're Japan now. The Central Bank is a hostage to an out of control treasury.Jul 03 19:05
scientesDaemonFC[m], the ex-federal governmentJul 03 19:05
MinceR03 200257 < scientes> DaemonFC[m], the federal government has been in 13 for a LONG timeJul 03 19:05
scientesof the former united states of north americaJul 03 19:05
MinceRstrange, i was told that us government bonds are considered to be the safest thing you can invest inJul 03 19:05
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: A 13 would have been pointless for me.Jul 03 19:06
DaemonFC[m]I could file a 7 and there was nothing for the Trustee to take and the debt, all of it, goes poof.Jul 03 19:06
scientesMinceR, they do say "in god we trust"!Jul 03 19:06
DaemonFC[m]He got one look at my finances, rammed it through, and ask the judge to excuse him so he could go rake someone else over the coals.Jul 03 19:06
DaemonFC[m]:)Jul 03 19:06
MinceRscientes: lolJul 03 19:07
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: I was throwing everything in there. Jul 03 19:07
DaemonFC[m]It says $84,060, but some of it was "Amount unknown" because it was from a long time ago.Jul 03 19:07
scientesthat's the federal debtJul 03 19:07
scientes"too big to count on both of my hands and both of my feet"Jul 03 19:08
MinceRyou just need the right unit of measurementJul 03 19:08
scientesMinceR, as assload?Jul 03 19:08
MinceR:)Jul 03 19:08
DaemonFC[m]If I was a government, my personal debbt to GDP ratio would be 1,000% if you counted all of it that went into the bankruptcy.Jul 03 19:08
DaemonFC[m]That's about 3 times worse than Japan.Jul 03 19:08
MinceRTUSDJul 03 19:09
scientesMinceR, the "Trust Us Dollar"Jul 03 19:09
DaemonFC[m]I packed that thing full of medical bills, credit cards, the car loan with John......everything.Jul 03 19:09
MinceRscientes: Tera-USDJul 03 19:09
DaemonFC[m]The money I borrowed to pay my legal expenses last year all went away.Jul 03 19:09
DaemonFC[m]The state basically succeeded only in destroying my credit rating.Jul 03 19:10
DaemonFC[m]I did not go to jail.Jul 03 19:10
scientesnot to be confused with Tierra-USD, the raft made of bales of billsJul 03 19:10
DaemonFC[m]The banks paid for that pigfuck that the state unleashed on me.Jul 03 19:10
MinceR:)Jul 03 19:10
DaemonFC[m]In a way, the state still won I guess.Jul 03 19:12
DaemonFC[m]It forced me to spend $60,000 in borrowed money into the state economy and court fines.Jul 03 19:12
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: It was the most Illinois thing ever, basically.Jul 03 19:13
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: While I was being deposed over the phone, the Trustee asked why I was filing on the car.Jul 03 19:14
DaemonFC[m]I said, "Let it be known for the record, that you should never ever sign on a car loan with your significant other expecting everything to be okay in 6 years.".Jul 03 19:14
DaemonFC[m]He's like "Would you care to expand on that?".Jul 03 19:15
scientesDaemonFC[m], 03 19:15
DaemonFC[m]So I said John's full name and then that he was a "lying, two-timing, cheater" and that the car was "one of the biggest mistakes I'd ever made".Jul 03 19:15
DaemonFC[m]So that's all in the court transcripts now.Jul 03 19:15
scientes> It forced me to spend $60,000 in borrowed money into the state economy and court fines.Jul 03 19:16
scientesDaemonFC[m], 03 19:16
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, they go over questions to try to figure out what led to the filing and if you have any assets.Jul 03 19:17
DaemonFC[m]Then when they get the idea that you just made a series of "mistakes" and that there aren't any assets, they give up.Jul 03 19:17
DaemonFC[m] 03 19:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Every Lenovo ThinkPad and ThinkStation workstation is getting Linux Certified - SlashGearJul 03 19:47
DaemonFC[m]“While many users prefer to customize their own machines – either on hardware without an OS or by wiping an existing client OS, then configuring and installing Linux – this can raise uncertainty with system stability, restricted performance, compatibility, end-user productivity and even IT support for devices,” Lenovo’s Rob Herman, general manager and executive director of the Workstation & Client AI Group,Jul 03 19:48
DaemonFC[m]"existing client OS" LOLJul 03 19:48
DaemonFC[m] 03 20:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft Edge has reportedly come close to being intrusive nagware - SlashGearJul 03 20:05
DaemonFC[m]Well, that's putting it mildly. Jul 03 20:05
DaemonFC[m]I've noticed that converting the disk over to Ext4 and putting Linux on it helps shut it up.Jul 03 20:05
psydread"resident malware OS"Jul 03 20:07
DaemonFC[m] 03 20:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-L1TF Cache Flushing Mode Could Soon Be Controlled Via Kconfig Build Option - PhoronixJul 03 20:10
DaemonFC[m]This looks a lot like that L1 cache flushing patch that Linus Torvalds personally rejected because it export cache flushing to userspace and could potentially let some program kill performance for everyone else.Jul 03 20:10
DaemonFC[m]Also, because flushing L1 doesn't help avoiding the Foreshadow attack if you have Hyperthreading turned on anyway.Jul 03 20:11
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DaemonFC[m]99 dead between Florida and Arizona today of COVID.Jul 03 20:20
DaemonFC[m]"Oh I'm prayin' Lord, I'm prayin'! Trynna make a hundred! Trynna make a hundred! Ninety-nine and a half just won't do!"Jul 03 20:21
DaemonFC[m]scientes: Bankruptcy is sort of the one last remnant we have of a safety net.Jul 03 20:23
DaemonFC[m]I think people had better get to court quickly before the Republicans get together with a bunch of K-Street Democrats to get rid of it.Jul 03 20:24
DaemonFC[m]Their solution to a wave of bankruptcy could very well be to just head people off at the pass and leave them stuck with the debt.Jul 03 20:25
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: You said "Wanting something to happen won't make it happen.".Jul 03 20:29
DaemonFC[m]You have to be really careful what you say to my mom.Jul 03 20:29
DaemonFC[m]Her church teaches that "Saying something can make things happen!".Jul 03 20:29
DaemonFC[m]Not just in the context of prayer, but just "Speaking it into existence.".Jul 03 20:30
*MinceR casts Dragonslave at herJul 03 20:30
DaemonFC[m]So in that case. I'm going to win the lottery tomorrow and then come home and find a bunch of gold bars strewn about the house. Since we can totally just speak things into existence. rolls eyesJul 03 20:30
DaemonFC[m]"Yeah mom, the weirdest thing just happened. I said I'd have gold bars and then the Federal Reserve Bank in Chicago said 'Here, we don't need as many of these as we thought we would and we're just going to let you have some.' Thank your pastor for me!"Jul 03 20:32
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scientesDaemonFC[m], safety parachuteJul 03 20:45
scientes"Made in China"Jul 03 20:45
AVRSscientes: everything is made in ChinaJul 03 20:57
scientesAVRS, your mom was made in ChinaJul 03 20:57
AVRSlolJul 03 20:57
DaemonFC[m]I saw Denny's with their parking lot packed and people eating inside.Jul 03 20:59
MinceRyour mom is made of chinaJul 03 20:59
DaemonFC[m]I was like "Oh god......".Jul 03 20:59
DaemonFC[m]"What the fuck....."Jul 03 21:00
DaemonFC[m]It won't end well. Give it a month or so and we'll be flaring up again with the governor shutting down the state all over and the hospitals packed.Jul 03 21:00
DaemonFC[m]All over an omelet. Jul 03 21:04
DaemonFC[m]I called mom and told her that and she's like "People are just dumb. Like, they don't wear a condom and then they're surprised that they're having kids again.". I laughed, and said, "Yeah, where are they all coming from? The Catholics are responsible for a lot of that though, it's sad.".Jul 03 21:05
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DaemonFC[m] 03 21:10
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DaemonFC[m]The fighting between states that was bidding up PPE prices subsided for now, so Illinois is stocking up anticipating another wave.Jul 03 21:18
DaemonFC[m]I stumbled into an article advising to invest in condom manufacturers.Jul 03 21:22
DaemonFC[m]Demand is going up because things are too uncertain right now and many people can't risk having kids.Jul 03 21:23
DaemonFC[m]Substantially, not much has changed, in my opinion.Jul 03 21:23
DaemonFC[m]Many people already would have been ruined with just one child and the Catholic church says they're murderers if they wear a condom during sex because that was potentially a person.Jul 03 21:24
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Games: Humble Choice, Universim and GNOME Games []Jul 03 21:35
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Back from the Dead: How to Install Shutter on Ubuntu 20.04 LTS []Jul 03 21:47
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Elive Review: For the Enlightened Linux Users []Jul 03 21:55
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*DaemonFC[m] sent a long message: < >Jul 03 22:09
DaemonFC[m]Back in the 1990s, if you wanted to throw around an ungodly amount of data and needed a reliable OS to handle it all, IRIX was the best out there.Jul 03 22:09
DaemonFC[m]So switching to Windows 2000 really crippled their customers workloads and many said fuck it, if we have to deal with this garbage, we'll just use Dell. They're cheap.Jul 03 22:10
DaemonFC[m]It wouldn't be the last company Microsoft strapped a suicide vest and convinced to blow themselves up (Novell, Nokia, etc.).Jul 03 22:10
psydreadRick Beluzzo anyone?Jul 03 22:14
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Python Programming []Jul 03 22:14
psydreadso many companies are naive when dealing with the psychopath collectiveJul 03 22:14
psydreadDebian is on a mission to kill off official support for all big-endian portsJul 03 22:16
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AVRSMinceR: you Chin is made of your momJul 03 22:25
AVRS*ChinaJul 03 22:25
AVRSabsolute realisticJul 03 22:25
AVRS*lyJul 03 22:25
schestowitz 03 22:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | New Tech Vocabulary for 2020 Could Break Software CompatibilityJul 03 22:25
schestowitz"I won’t even apologize or write “don’t get me wrong” in advance, as it would only add to hypocrisy we are witnessing. Outlawing words and inventing new ones isn’t new thing, it was done by all kind of leftist revolutionaries during, for example, French and Russian revolutions. And it never ended up quite well. If you are offended by something – walk away, don’t look at it, in this case – fork it and create your own Jul 03 22:25
schestowitzsafe and politically correct code. Spend YOUR resources on “cleaning” it up. Don’t demand someone to spend their."Jul 03 22:25
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: New Tech Vocabulary for 2020 Could Break Software Compatibility []Jul 03 22:26
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: New Tech Vocabulary for 2020 Could Break Software Compatibility []Jul 03 22:26
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Epiphany GSoC Milestone []Jul 03 22:36
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schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: +44,739 alreadyJul 03 22:44
DaemonFC[m]+44,999Jul 03 22:44
schestowitz you folks get tired of winningJul 03 22:44
DaemonFC[m]Bigger and betterJul 03 22:44
MinceRAVRS: your maid is China's mom!Jul 03 22:44
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Mozilla: #SpiderMonkey and Filter #Treeherder Development #mozilla #firefox []Jul 03 22:45
DaemonFC[m]As a Republican protester said: SACRIFICE THE WEAK! OPEN UP!Jul 03 22:45
DaemonFC[m]Who doesn't love a Denny's Omelet anyway?Jul 03 22:46
DaemonFC[m]They're TO DIE FOR!Jul 03 22:46
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schestowitzAVRS: any findings re 03 23:00
schestowitzI assume they just altered as date somewhereJul 03 23:00
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: 47k_Jul 03 23:01
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: At this rate, maybe 6 months until we have herd immunity, and like 500,000 dead.Jul 03 23:06
DaemonFC[m]So meh.Jul 03 23:06
DaemonFC[m]I'm just trying not to be one of them.Jul 03 23:06
DaemonFC[m]If it only took about 2 million cases to get 120,000 dead and we're adding a million every 20 days at this rate.....Jul 03 23:07
DaemonFC[m]Then as long as you can sustain that, then about 60,000 people will die from the 1 million cases diagnosed each 20 days. Jul 03 23:08
DaemonFC[m]Assuming it doesn't start spreading even faster.Jul 03 23:08
DaemonFC[m]Over two months, that's enough new cases to kill 180,000 more people.Jul 03 23:08
DaemonFC[m]On top of the 132,000 we have now.Jul 03 23:09
DaemonFC[m]Everything Counts (in large amounts)Jul 03 23:09
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DaemonFC[m]You don't really even need a calculator to guess about where this mess is going to land soon.Jul 03 23:09
DaemonFC[m]People go eat at Denny's and assume it won't be them.Jul 03 23:10
schestowitzDenny's will run out of customersJul 03 23:12
schestowitzif they fall illJul 03 23:12
schestowitzor deadJul 03 23:12
schestowitzbut then again, Denny's also will run out of staffJul 03 23:12
MinceRthen again, those customers would have acquired the virus somehow anywayJul 03 23:13
MinceRthis way Denny's gets to profit from them before they off themselvesJul 03 23:13
schestowitzouchJul 03 23:14
DaemonFC[m]LMAOJul 03 23:14
DaemonFC[m]All the way to the bankruptcy court.Jul 03 23:14
DaemonFC[m]With the rest of America.Jul 03 23:14
schestowitzcannotJul 03 23:14
schestowitzthe court would not let them inJul 03 23:15
schestowitzCOVID lepersJul 03 23:15
schestowitz48.5lJul 03 23:15
schestowitzkJul 03 23:15
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I filed bankruptcy without seeing my lawyer and meeting with the trustee over the phone.Jul 03 23:19
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: It's probably older people who are screwed right now.Jul 03 23:20
AVRSschestowitz: I haven't looked for moreJul 03 23:20
DaemonFC[m]Don't know how to scan bills into their phone and email and stuff.Jul 03 23:20
DaemonFC[m]I had to get rid of this debt before I had another problem when the courts finally decided to open up and run a rocket docket for lawsuits.Jul 03 23:21
DaemonFC[m]I heard that in other states they were opening up the courts again and all hell was breaking loose with the lawsuits.Jul 03 23:22
DaemonFC[m]So I filed before Lake County went into "Stage 4 reopening".Jul 03 23:22
AVRSschestowitz: what do you think could be found?Jul 03 23:22
schestowitzI am starting to think thatJul 03 23:22
schestowitz1) longterm effects are not known AND are badJul 03 23:22
schestowitz2) for young people alsoJul 03 23:22
schestowitz3) it mutates for sure, in considerable waysJul 03 23:22
DaemonFC[m]I already take antivirals that slow down the Coronavirus.Jul 03 23:23
schestowitz4) the death tool is vastly higher than statedJul 03 23:23
schestowitzre (4):Jul 03 23:23
schestowitzlook at UKJul 03 23:23
schestowitzabout 280k casesJul 03 23:23
DaemonFC[m]So my body is flooded with the drug already even if I am exposed to the virus.Jul 03 23:23
schestowitzand we do  LLOOOOOOOOADS od testingJul 03 23:23
schestowitz44k deathsJul 03 23:23
schestowitzthat's like one in 6Jul 03 23:23
schestowitzin some countries they claim 1 in 100Jul 03 23:23
schestowitzand their healthcare is on par, similar level of modernityJul 03 23:24
DaemonFC[m]I have enough for like 120 more days.Jul 03 23:24
schestowitzso something here is not rightJul 03 23:24
schestowitzthey're not measuring the same thing in the same wayJul 03 23:24
DaemonFC[m]Good luck everybody else.Jul 03 23:24
schestowitztime will tellJul 03 23:24
schestowitzAVRS: cheers!Jul 03 23:24
schestowitzAVRS: maybe he was added to another stable branchJul 03 23:24
schestowitzbut iirc he was already on all of then (Sacha Levin)Jul 03 23:25
schestowitz*themJul 03 23:25
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: 49kJul 03 23:25
schestowitzit'll be a record, maybe 60kJul 03 23:25
DaemonFC[m]Tenofovir is almost as effective as Remdesivir in stopping the Coronavirus from replicating.Jul 03 23:25
DaemonFC[m]They don't want it widely known or there will be a run on that.Jul 03 23:26
schestowitzcitation neededJul 03 23:26
schestowitzthey don't mind runsJul 03 23:26
schestowitzthey make more money this wayJul 03 23:26
schestowitzthey drive up the costJul 03 23:26
DaemonFC[m]They suspect Remdesivir would be more effective if people started it sooner.Jul 03 23:26
DaemonFC[m]By the time you get diagnosed with Coronavirus, the viral load is already sky high.Jul 03 23:26
DaemonFC[m]My guess is that they're right. You need to stop it from gaining a foothold.Jul 03 23:27
AVRS what actually happened in the US?Jul 03 23:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Covid TrendsJul 03 23:28
DaemonFC[m]Trump has absolutely no plan to deal with the virus. How could we at this point?Jul 03 23:29
DaemonFC[m]So he stirs up anti-Asian racism. "Kung Flu!"Jul 03 23:29
DaemonFC[m]The crowds scream and cheer, giving each other the "Kung Flu!".Jul 03 23:29
schestowitzDid he say that?Jul 03 23:30
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, at one of the Nazi rallies the other day.Jul 03 23:31
schestowitzyuckJul 03 23:31
DaemonFC[m]Yeah.Jul 03 23:31
schestowitzwait for violence to followJul 03 23:31
schestowitzlike early 1930s germanyJul 03 23:31
schestowitzthe leader names the "plague"Jul 03 23:31
schestowitzthe masses punish themJul 03 23:31
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I'm getting my gun permit back ASAP as soon as the probation ends.Jul 03 23:31
DaemonFC[m]It closes out in about another month.Jul 03 23:31
DaemonFC[m]I wish Illinois was an open carry state.Jul 03 23:32
DaemonFC[m]I'd get a Desert Eagle and just carry that around.Jul 03 23:32
DaemonFC[m]The Dumbocrats have actually left Illinois quite open for an invasion by the military.Jul 03 23:33
DaemonFC[m]It's not difficult to imagine how Trump could just send in the Army, have our governor arrested and removed, and set up a Military Governor that did whatever he wanted.Jul 03 23:33
DaemonFC[m]The only people giving them a hard time will be the gang members who get fucking machine guns now because they ignore the law.Jul 03 23:34
schestowitz 03 23:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Trump Does U-Turn Stating He's "All for Masks" as Case Numbers SoarJul 03 23:34
schestowitztoo lateJul 03 23:34
schestowitz3 million cases by MondayJul 03 23:34
schestowitz(known cases)Jul 03 23:34
MinceRlolJul 03 23:34
DaemonFC[m]People will be left to form an insurgency that involves suicide attacks.Jul 03 23:34
DaemonFC[m]It'll be like Iraq.Jul 03 23:34
schestowitz1.6 active ones at leastJul 03 23:34
schestowitz1.6mJul 03 23:34
MinceR 03 23:35
DaemonFC[m]Any soldier that considered their oath to uphold the constitution as binding would have resigned rather than follow Trump's order to launch a gas attack on protesters so Trump could go get a photo op with a buy bull..Jul 03 23:36
MinceRbuy bull :DJul 03 23:36
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: just in: Jul 03 23:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | New Study Suggests Thousands of Deaths Are Missing From Coronavirus TollJul 03 23:38
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, I knew that was likely because the CDC reported that there were "about 50,000 unexpected deaths" on top of what was normal and accounted for due to COVID-19 in the last 90 days.Jul 03 23:39
DaemonFC[m]They did it in a Friday evening news dump last week.Jul 03 23:39
schestowitzhistorians may tellJul 03 23:39
schestowitzsomeone is certainly cooking the booksJul 03 23:40
DaemonFC[m]It's not known what it was, but they're blaming the majority on people trying to stay away from hospitals and then dying of something else.Jul 03 23:40
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, I don't buy that.Jul 03 23:40
DaemonFC[m]If you gotta go, you gotta go. I just wouldn't go to the ER over something stupid.Jul 03 23:40
DaemonFC[m]Especially not right now.Jul 03 23:40
DaemonFC[m]If it's something that will heal on its own, you go to the ER and you could very well leave with a much bigger problem.Jul 03 23:41
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: The same scummy debt collector came back and tried to hit Mandy's credit report with another $77 lab bill that was already paid.Jul 03 23:42
DaemonFC[m]The credit bureaus took that one off immediately when I disputed it too.Jul 03 23:42
DaemonFC[m]$77 medical bill really has no effect to speak of on your FICO.Jul 03 23:43
DaemonFC[m]It considers medical bills as "different" and bills under $120 are considered "nuisance accounts".Jul 03 23:43
DaemonFC[m]So it might cost you like 1 point.Jul 03 23:43
DaemonFC[m]Still, I dealt with it. :/Jul 03 23:43
DaemonFC[m]The FICO scores are bullshit. They scooped its brains out to justify more loans while skirting the enhanced laws about creditworthiness.Jul 03 23:44
DaemonFC[m]You can have like 10 medical collection accounts under $120 and it'll cost you like 4-5 points.Jul 03 23:44
DaemonFC[m]Under the old model it would have been much worse.Jul 03 23:44
DaemonFC[m]When I cleaned up my credit, I just did an EA Games on them.Jul 03 23:45
DaemonFC[m]"Challenge everything!".Jul 03 23:45
DaemonFC[m]Like 75% of it fell right off because "I don't know what this account is.".Jul 03 23:45
DaemonFC[m]That was several years ago.Jul 03 23:45
DaemonFC[m]Then right before I go to file my bankruptcy, I get these medical bills from 2008 and 2011, and the bill collector said they added interest and doubled them. So I listed them as creditors in the bankruptcy.Jul 03 23:46
DaemonFC[m]Zombie debt. I gave them the middle finger while I was filing anyway.Jul 03 23:47
schestowitz50k..Jul 03 23:48
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schestowitzit's like watching the DoomsdayClock(TM)Jul 03 23:53
schestowitzI disregard casualties countJul 03 23:53
schestowitzas it's obviously incompleteJul 03 23:53
schestowitzUK today:Jul 03 23:53
schestowitz500 new casesJul 03 23:53
schestowitz150 deathsJul 03 23:53
schestowitzUS 50,000+ cases and just 400 deaths? Bull. Shit.Jul 03 23:53
schestowitzas you said, they don't count peopleJul 03 23:54
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I'm going with Trump's poll numbers as a proxy.Jul 03 23:54
schestowitzNYS counted some belatedltyJul 03 23:54
schestowitzsaying that had died from covid outside the systemJul 03 23:54
DaemonFC[m]Old people are the most likely to like Trump, and the most likely to talk to a pollster.Jul 03 23:54
schestowitzhere in the uk you can counted as covid as you get admitted for treatment for 'free', it's part of the systemJul 03 23:55
schestowitzyou don't fight to get away from it out of fear of a remortgaged or reverse-mortgaged homeJul 03 23:55
DaemonFC[m]-15 in Registered and Likely Voters is horrible 124 days out.Jul 03 23:56
schestowitzflorida clocks another 10k casesJul 03 23:56
schestowitzso many vulnerable people thereJul 03 23:56
schestowitzthey say 68 deaths Jul 03 23:56
schestowitzI bet it might be a few hundreds at leastJul 03 23:56
schestowitzwith "complications"Jul 03 23:56
DaemonFC[m]Early voting is going to be bad news for him if his poll numbers are bad in September and October.Jul 03 23:56
schestowitzhere we count any deaths with virus and "complications" as covidJul 03 23:57
DaemonFC[m]Even if things somehow did get better, you can't take back a vote you did early.Jul 03 23:57
schestowitzso he will call off the electionJul 03 23:57
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I suspect those numbers are probably accurate for now.Jul 03 23:57
schestowitzcause chaosJul 03 23:57
schestowitzstir up violenceJul 03 23:57
DaemonFC[m]If it goes on into late next week, be suspicious.Jul 03 23:57
schestowitzand say it's postponedJul 03 23:57
schestowitzlike Marcos in PhilippinesJul 03 23:57
schestowitz"I hereby declare martial law"Jul 03 23:57
DaemonFC[m]It takes 2-3 weeks to die from this shit.Jul 03 23:57
schestowitzthen 1 decade of Trump until his deathJul 03 23:58
DaemonFC[m]So watch for it to gradually get worse.Jul 03 23:58
DaemonFC[m]The government in the Philippines has always been terrible.Jul 03 23:58
DaemonFC[m]None of this is new stuff.Jul 03 23:58
schestowitzlol AZ 4400 casesJul 03 23:58
schestowitzafter his stupid rallyJul 03 23:58
schestowitzfor a state with not so many people in itJul 03 23:58
schestowitzmore cases than CaliforniaJul 03 23:59
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: It's weird that the people there could produce a government so bad.Jul 03 23:59
schestowitzRepublican states on toJul 03 23:59
DaemonFC[m]The ones I've met seem pretty decent except the in-laws.Jul 03 23:59
schestowitzalabama, carolina, tn, ga, az, tx, flJul 03 23:59
schestowitz*on topJul 03 23:59
DaemonFC[m]But there's people who are fucking awful everywhere.Jul 03 23:59
DaemonFC[m]It's a matter of how many.Jul 03 23:59

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