●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, October 03, 2021 ●● ● Oct 03 [00:00] schestowitz-TR but iphone does more than them all [00:00] schestowitz-TR repeat after me: [00:00] schestowitz-TR "SELLLLLLFIIIIIEEEE" [00:00] schestowitz-TR "LIIIIIIIKKE" [00:00] MinceR lol [00:01] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: I noticed your wordpress.com blog has "like" [00:01] schestowitz-TR did you like the techrights post, DaemonFC? [00:01] schestowitz-TR over 10 years ago we added (in wordpress) some post rating things [00:01] MinceR https://hugelolcdn.com/i/776562.jpg [00:01] schestowitz-TR we removed them, worthless junk [00:06] *activelow (~activelow@xv9cfpnhn2ihe.irc) has joined #techrights [00:07] *rianne (~rianne@ctqz25uirqr88.irc) has joined #techrights [00:07] *liberty_box (~liberty@ctqz25uirqr88.irc) has joined #techrights [00:08] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: over 500 reads of the uefi article already [00:08] schestowitz-TR and I've not even mentioned it anywhere yet [00:08] schestowitz-TR I'm working [00:11] DaemonFC Catching up, sorry. [00:11] DaemonFC Mandy wanted to know what was for dinner. [00:11] DaemonFC I grabbed some chicken and vegetables out of the freezer and said "Surprise me." because he offered to cook. [00:12] DaemonFC if you have non-SE hypePhone [00:12] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, I laid down the law with that iPhone SE. [00:12] *inky_ (~inky@5.77.163.108) has joined #techrights [00:12] DaemonFC I made him change the battery and told him to deal with it for another couple years and then we'd see what was on the market then. [00:12] DaemonFC He was pestering me over those allegedly "free" iPhone 13s. [00:12] DaemonFC Right, they're just giving the fucking things away. [00:13] DaemonFC Nothing in it for them! [00:13] DaemonFC It's like those bars out in the old west that said all you can eat free lunch and then they salted the crap out of it so you had to buy drinks. [00:13] schestowitz-TR 'fre' phones [00:14] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, The McDonalds here is interesting. I was poking around their menu on the kiosk where I'm not wasting anyone's time so nobody cares what I do over there. [00:14] schestowitz-TR not freePhone [00:14] schestowitz-TR not free as in freedom [00:14] DaemonFC They have a free small ice water, but the medium and large cost money. [00:14] schestowitz-TR not frie [00:14] schestowitz-TR or libre [00:14] DaemonFC If I do drink a Diet Coke, it's at McDonalds, now and then. [00:14] schestowitz-TR free shackles [00:14] DaemonFC They taste different there. [00:14] schestowitz-TR "HOW COOL IS THAT!!" [00:14] schestowitz-TR "my prison gave me a free ankle bracelet" [00:14] DaemonFC But today I had ice water. [00:15] schestowitz-TR "my doc gave me a pacemaker" [00:15] DaemonFC I really try to avoid sodas. I used to be horribly addicted to them. [00:15] schestowitz-TR (don't mind the heart condition) [00:15] DaemonFC (don't mind the heart condition) [00:15] schestowitz-TR it was FREE [00:15] DaemonFC Yes, I buy low sodium and unsalted broths, lite salt for the table, order unsalted fries. [00:15] schestowitz-TR "I didn't pay for this device inside my rib cage! What a bargain" [00:16] DaemonFC Recently, I began experimenting with salt-free seasonings for my hamburgers and steaks and things. [00:16] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: the fries are FRE!!! [00:16] schestowitz-TR Order a buirger [00:16] schestowitz-TR FREE deep fried potatoes [00:16] schestowitz-TR each potato costs 5 cents [00:16] DaemonFC Well, my blood pressure is back where it needs to be, at least. [00:16] schestowitz-TR and the oil even cheaper [00:16] DaemonFC Turns out that I'm sodium sensitive and just getting the sodium down takes care of it. [00:16] schestowitz-TR they reuse it ten times over [00:16] schestowitz-TR I used to work in Burger King [00:16] *inky_ has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [00:16] DaemonFC Maybe I'll even live long enough to take care of Mandy. God knows I'll need to. [00:17] schestowitz-TR maybe you will live long enough to bury a parent... oooof , touch crowd [00:17] schestowitz-TR *tough [00:17] *inky_ (~inky@46.36.119.235) has joined #techrights [00:21] DaemonFC Probably. [00:22] schestowitz Stay away from compilers, creeperberg https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Facebook-Compiler-Gym [00:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Facebook Is Aiming To Make Compilers Faster Using Machine Learning With CompilerGym - Phoronix [00:22] DaemonFC I mean, you live long enough and your parents _are_ older than you are.... [00:22] DaemonFC Barring accident or illness, I will outlive them. [00:23] schestowitz-TR your brother will give them offspring [00:23] schestowitz-TR so they can leave you alone [00:23] DaemonFC Doubtful. [00:23] DaemonFC I think they gave up on the whole grandchildren thing. Wrote us both off as dead ends. [00:23] schestowitz-TR so they view women as vessels and men as sperm factories? [00:23] DaemonFC That's nice. [00:24] DaemonFC Your only value in life, purpose, is to make more people. [00:24] DaemonFC How can anyone honestly believe that? [00:24] schestowitz-TR your brother won't "procreate"? [00:24] schestowitz-TR (the chruch term) [00:24] DaemonFC I don't think it's likely. [00:25] schestowitz-TR we make more people [00:25] DaemonFC did you like the techrights post, DaemonFC? [00:25] schestowitz-TR soon 8 and 9 billions [00:25] DaemonFC It has like buttons? [00:25] schestowitz-TR I just don't participate in this idiocy [00:25] DaemonFC Maybe you can add love, care, haha, sad, and angry, like Fuckerbergbook. [00:25] schestowitz-TR no, we support support "likes" [00:26] schestowitz-TR heck, my cocoa cup, next to me, says "I HATE EVERYONE" [00:26] schestowitz-TR (not my choice) [00:26] schestowitz-TR I think rianne bought it as a joke [00:26] schestowitz-TR how about this [00:26] schestowitz-TR we add buttons [00:26] schestowitz-TR "hate" button [00:26] schestowitz-TR you can only downvote [00:27] schestowitz-TR the more "hates" we get, the prouder we become [00:27] schestowitz-TR "we pissed off ALL THE RIGHT PEOPLE" [00:27] schestowitz-TR MinceR would approve, I assure you that [00:27] schestowitz-TR instead of "SHARE" we have "blacklist" [00:27] schestowitz-TR you click it [00:27] schestowitz-TR it detects your IP address [00:27] schestowitz-TR sends that to iptables [00:28] MinceR i like that cup [00:28] schestowitz-TR I thought about putting it in a video for laughs, but it can be taken out of context [00:29] DaemonFC Rage hating from mjg59_ and his Microsoft playpals. [00:29] DaemonFC The ones from Grindr and the "open source" conferences. [00:29] DaemonFC If this stall's a rockin' don't go a knockin'. [00:29] DaemonFC All that good stuff. [00:30] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Cocoa....lucky. [00:30] DaemonFC I made a really awful thing in my kitchen today for a pick me up. [00:30] schestowitz-TR low-calory [00:31] schestowitz-TR aldi sells them now [00:31] DaemonFC It was supposed to be a vanilla chai latte, and I went too heavy on the cream. [00:31] schestowitz-TR this way I can consume a little less coffee, alternations [00:31] schestowitz-TR tea is also OK sometimes, but a tad bland [00:31] schestowitz-TR there's also no 'instant tea' that I know of [00:31] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Well, I hoarded Hills Bros coffee when it was on sale. [00:32] DaemonFC When it runs out, I'll switch to that Walmart brand Sumatra. [00:32] schestowitz-TR Sumatra? [00:32] schestowitz-TR is that a brand for some palm oil crap [00:32] DaemonFC Sumatra Mandheling [00:32] schestowitz-TR that causes deforestation in actual Sumatra? [00:32] DaemonFC Hmm, everything everyone does kills everything, doesn't it? [00:33] *Noisytoot is now known as GPLv3 [00:33] MinceR not if you manage to kill off humans faster and more cleanly [00:33] DaemonFC Anyway, GNOME Web is a great (and Free) web browser. I'm liking it more the more I use it. [00:34] DaemonFC Mozilla hasn't really cared about making Firefox a first class citizen on GNU/Linux, ever, and now Rat Crap is in charge of the port to Wayland. God help us. [00:34] DaemonFC That part about HAVING to have Firefox-ESR -or- Chromium really pisses me off. [00:34] DaemonFC Corporate shithole browsers. Backup at best, if you're smart. [00:35] DaemonFC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJFxwBfFkyM [00:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Exploring Sun Solaris 7 for SPARC - YouTube [00:35] DaemonFC I used to collect operating systems and web browsers because it was a cheap hobby. [00:35] DaemonFC Some people collect postage stamps. It doesn't have to make sense. [00:36] DaemonFC I used Solaris on actual hardware, which is one of the few non-GNU/Linux systems I've actually done that with. [00:37] DaemonFC With OpenSolaris, I had some hopes that there'd be another good option for operating systems. [00:37] DaemonFC There's actually a criticism of "Linux" page on Wikipedia. [00:37] DaemonFC One of the "complaints" is too many choices of desktops. Like how is that bad? [00:37] DaemonFC Something goes terribly wrong in one, you get tired of it, there's options. [00:38] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, When I had an account at Wells Fargo, they were still using Solaris 8 on the backend. [00:39] DaemonFC I didn't get into Solaris until version 10, which Sun sent me on a collection of DVDs, for free, including a user manual. [00:39] DaemonFC It was a really nice set. [00:40] DaemonFC One of my big complaints about GNU/Linux is it just changes so fast, it almost defies documentation. [00:40] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:41] DaemonFC He goes on to mention HotJAVA, as a pile of crap. [00:41] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:41] DaemonFC The Windows version was alright. [00:44] *rianne (~rianne@ctqz25uirqr88.irc) has joined #techrights [00:44] *liberty_box (~liberty@ctqz25uirqr88.irc) has joined #techrights [00:44] schestowitz-TR bbiab [00:44] schestowitz-TR finishing work shortl [00:51] DaemonFC https://ibb.co/YZSVv3s [00:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ibb.co | Screenshot-from-2021-10-02-18-49-27 ImgBB [00:52] DaemonFC Dash to Dock has a Unity 7-lke theme. [00:53] activelow DaemonFC: which compilers did Solaris ship? [00:53] DaemonFC OpenSolaris was never fully Free. [00:53] *m___ has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [00:54] DaemonFC It offered GCC to the user, but to build it, it required Sun's compiler. [00:54] schestowitz-TR it says open [00:54] DaemonFC OpenIndiana got rid of the Sun compiler requirement. [00:54] DaemonFC Theirs builds with GCC now. [00:54] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:54] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:54] schestowitz-TR microsoft and apple say open also [00:55] DaemonFC Well, the OS source was Free and Open Source, but you'd have to modify it to build with a Free compiler. [00:55] DaemonFC Otherwise, you needed a proprietary one from Sun. Which Oracle no longer updates. [00:55] DaemonFC That forced the OpenIndiana/IllumOS people to get it building with a recent copy of GCC. [00:56] DaemonFC If you need a Solaris system, I'd definitely recommend an IllumOS distribution over dealing with Oracle though. [00:56] *liberty_box (~liberty@ctqz25uirqr88.irc) has joined #techrights [00:56] *rianne (~rianne@ctqz25uirqr88.irc) has joined #techrights [00:56] DaemonFC It should be reasonably compatible with where Solaris diverged from it, and Oracle has mostly mothballed things except to merge in GNOME 3 and a few other bits. [00:57] DaemonFC The version of ZFS is different between IllumOS, ZFS on Linux, and Oracle Solaris 11. [00:58] DaemonFC If you try mounting the file system as anything but read only, you're probably looking at data corruption if you try sharing between them. [00:58] activelow no need for zfs [00:58] activelow nilfs2 [00:58] DaemonFC To try to prevent this from happening, the zpool version is different in each [00:58] activelow on top of raid [00:59] DaemonFC ZFS is ridiculous on Linux. [00:59] techrights-news 3 Excellent Free Books to Learn Dylan https://www.linuxlinks.com/excellent-free-books-learn-dylan/ #programming [00:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-3 Excellent Free Books to Learn Dylan - LinuxLinks [00:59] DaemonFC It's illegal, and it's pretty overrated. [00:59] DaemonFC Most of the features end up actually causing more trouble than it's worth. [00:59] schestowitz Without admonishing any individual in particular, as there was at least some written and verbal communication (the other two who claim to be interested in #SLAPP just completely stonewalled), we finally share our findings about #Germany s passive role in enabling the #EPO abuses http://techrights.org/2021/10/02/merkel-epo-legacy/ [00:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Angela Merkels Coalition Has Not Helped EPO Staff and Not Even Bloggers Blackmailed by EPO Management | Techrights ● Oct 03 [01:00] DaemonFC schestowitz, I used XFS until Ext4 came along. [01:00] DaemonFC Ext3's driver was badly designed and slow. [01:01] schestowitz #SystemRescue 8.05 is out https://www.system-rescue.org/ #gnu #linux [01:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.system-rescue.org | SystemRescue - System Rescue Homepage [01:01] DaemonFC Ext4 is sufficiently stabilized now, and Rat Crap is off trying to push XFS for god only knows what reason. [01:01] DaemonFC Ext4 has been extended further so that with the right flags, you can use it for large storage. [01:02] techrights-news #Australia Chinese language newspapers print censored news - report https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/australian-chinese-language-newspapers-print-censored-news-report-2021-09-29/ #china #cn #censorship [01:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Australian Chinese language newspapers print censored news - report | Reuters [01:02] techrights-news Sometimes you have to wonder why the #EPO is so scared of facts, courts that it does not control, and bloggers that it blackmails (and whose sites are blocked) http://techrights.org/2021/10/02/upc-facts/ #Techrights Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/02/upc-facts/ [01:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Margot Forgot UPC Facts | Techrights [01:03] DaemonFC Red Hat hired out to do Ext4. They hired a bunch of the people from SGI to do it. [01:03] activelow nilfs2 offers some features [01:03] DaemonFC Probably got a good deal too. Company bankrupt, they were middle aged and unemployed in the tech industry. Bad place to be. [01:03] activelow features which i am not willing to miss with any other filesystem [01:04] activelow i have written a tiny fsck for it [01:04] activelow nilfs2 [01:04] techrights-news #Gemini expanding to #nntp h Or #Usenet #Newsgroups? https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/007249.html [01:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | Gemini Usenet Newsgroup [01:04] schestowitz-TR activelow: write a faq for it also [01:05] schestowitz-TR or a faq for the fsck [01:05] activelow schestowitz-TR: Telekom didn't pay my salary for 15 years [01:05] activelow ask them [01:05] schestowitz-TR at all? [01:05] activelow yes [01:05] schestowitz-TR DT? [01:05] schestowitz-TR crazy stuff [01:06] schestowitz-TR so you work as volunteer for 15 years for a billionaire company? [01:06] techrights-news Stressing love https://img.pr0gramm.com/2021/09/25/ba106bbe6051880c.jpg [01:06] techrights-news #RaspberryPi Pico Brings Goblet of Fire to Life https://www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-pico-goblet-of-fire-chip-dip #hardware [01:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tomshardware.com | Raspberry Pi Pico Brings Goblet of Fire to Life | Tom's Hardware [01:07] activelow schestowitz-TR: this is short version of the story [01:07] activelow otherwise, nilfs2 deserves some attention [01:09] techrights-news RMS: "The #CIA investigated kidnapping or assassinating Julian #Assange in 2017. It even got legislative approval for a new concept, "non-state hostile intelligence service," which it used to justify an operation of "offensive counterintelligence." The wrecker [Trump] seems to have hated him intensely." https://stallman.org/archives/2021-jul-oct.html#1_October_2021_%28CIA_and_Julian_Assange%29 [01:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | 2021: July - October Political Notes - Richard Stallman [01:10] techrights-news "Like always. Margin will be improved from layoffs (50% of marketing employees in US in Sept), revenue will increase by an insignificant number, and the execs will get paid." #ibm #layoffs https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1d7cgO15#replies [01:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Q3 Earnings Predictions - post regarding IBM layoffs [01:11] *zonex (~59a3fc1e@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [01:11] schestowitz-TR activelow: so.. [01:11] schestowitz-TR the lawsuit is from DT? [01:11] activelow the last one [01:11] activelow good question, what this is [01:11] techrights-news "I disagree with the criticism of the "Liberal class". If by Liberal the author means defense of human rights, that is a principle, not a class. Human rights are vital for everyone, except an autocrat and per servants." https://stallman.org/archives/2021-jul-oct.html#1_October_2021_%28Contrasting_tyrannies%29 [01:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | 2021: July - October Political Notes - Richard Stallman [01:12] schestowitz-TR activelow: but work liberates... hardware [01:12] activelow the last one cited "IBM" [01:13] schestowitz-TR Berlin rebels against rent gouging now [01:13] schestowitz-TR Germany efficiency = occupy Europe, get people to work for free [01:13] schestowitz-TR also see: EPO [01:14] schestowitz-TR activelow: IBM did pay he Dehomag staff [01:14] schestowitz-TR later they also paid for it [01:14] schestowitz-TR IBM helped the US Army bomb Germany [01:14] schestowitz-TR so it double-dipped [01:15] schestowitz-TR then it repossessed the Hollerith machines of Germany [01:15] schestowitz-TR which means they took back what they sold or rented out [01:15] schestowitz "Wires like HDMI or USB, which exist in the billions, show the maturity of cable manufacturing. These devices generally combine a number of cables, are consistent in length, theyre relatively thin, and theyre well-shielded. The process is mostly (but not completely) automated, particularly in the case of USB-A, where connectors have a standard style and consistent manufacturing process." https://tedium.co/2021/10/01/nylon-braided-cable- [01:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://tedium.co/2021/10/01/nylon-braided-cable- ) [01:15] schestowitz history/ [01:16] schestowitz https://tedium.co/2021/10/01/nylon-braided-cable-history/ [01:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tedium.co | Nylon Charging Cable History: A Hipper-Looking Braided Cable [01:16] techrights-news They're just two terrible Service Packs of Vista in an awful Windows rolling release that keeps bricking itself. Move to #gnu #linux instead. https://www.maketecheasier.com/downgrade-windows-11/ [01:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | How to Downgrade from Windows 11 to Windows 10 - Make Tech Easier [01:16] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 21.51 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 59.96 swarm size (avg): 257.93 [01:17] techrights-news Former #ibm Chief (who brought #gnu #linux to IBM) Rethinking Digital Strategy for the Post- #Pandemic Era https://blog.irvingwb.com/blog/2021/10/rethinking-digital-strategy-for-the-post-pandemic-era.html IBM profits from it, e.g. http://techrights.org/2021/03/28/ibm-and-rms-incompatible/ [01:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.irvingwb.com | Irving Wladawsky-Berger: Rethinking Digital Strategy for the Post-Pandemic Era [01:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM and RMS Are Not Compatible | Techrights [01:17] techrights-news Monitor your #Java on Linux with #jconsole | https://opensource.com/article/21/10/monitor-java-linux-jconsole #FreeSW #RedHat #IBM [01:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Monitor your Java on Linux with jconsole | Opensource.com [01:21] techrights-news Why I turned down Free #surveillance device https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/10/02/why-i-turned-down-free-phones-from-t-mobile-and-stuck-a-new-battery-in-my-spouses-iphone-se-2020/ [01:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Why I turned down Free phones from T-Mobile and stuck a new battery in my spouses iPhone SE (2020). BaronHK's Rants [01:21] techrights-news Video Editing with Linux: #Kdenlive Video Editor Reviewed https://puri.sm/posts/video-editing-with-linux-kdenlive-video-editor-reviewed/ #kde #gnu #linux #freesw [01:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-puri.sm | Video Editing with Linux: Kdenlive Video Editor Reviewed Purism [01:21] *zonex has quit (Quit: https://mibbit.com Online IRC Client) [01:22] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: 1000 views now [01:22] schestowitz-TR seems to have struck a nerve already [01:25] techrights-news "The design is open source, with all the relevant information and files available on #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware . This looks like a fun craft even if you dont plan on doing research with it, and h also created an FPV specific canopy cover." https://hackaday.com/2021/10/02/3d-printed-vtol-craft-can-land-and-recharge-itself-and-team-up-with-other-drones/ #deletegithub [01:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-3D Printed VTOL Craft Can Land And Recharge Itself, And Team Up With Other Drones | Hackaday [01:26] techrights-news "Recently our container build CI job in #github broke down unexpectedly." Time to #deletegithub then. #suse #opensuse #microsoft [01:27] techrights-news #cat #morningstar https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2021/09/24/ccee1fcb7ab4ddf2.mp4 [01:28] techrights-news #surveillance on #linux -powered devices -- a lesser-explored issue we all need to talk about https://liliputing.com/2021/10/amazon-fire-hd-8-2020-how-to-disable-specific-amazon-apps-and-features.html [01:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Amazon Fire tablets: How to disable Amazon apps and features - Liliputing [01:29] techrights-news "Workaround" https://taming-libreoffice.com/2021/10/workaround-for-a-bug-in-base-on-macos/ another workaround is, don't use #apple and move to a #freesw base OS... for #libreoffice Base [01:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-taming-libreoffice.com | Workaround for a bug in Base on macOS Taming LibreOffice [01:30] *Despatche_ (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #techrights [01:31] *Despatche has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:37] techrights-news #apple : adapters company that also rebrands some Chinese laptops to help sell its massively overpriced adapters and other fashion accessories which help poor people THINK they're rich (or that OTHER people think that) [01:37] techrights-news 2021 Chaos Communication Congress Cancelled | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2021/10/02/2021-chaos-communication-congress-cancelled/ #hackaday [01:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-2021 Chaos Communication Congress Cancelled | Hackaday [01:38] techrights-news "This was then sintered in a small kiln, which was controlled with a #RaspberryPi running #PicoFlow , and after a little bit of scrubbing, the surface resistance was a very usable 2 m/square" https://hackaday.com/2021/10/02/water-is-the-secret-ingredient-when-laser-cutting-ceramics-to-make-circuits/ [01:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Water Is The Secret Ingredient When Laser Cutting Ceramics To Make Circuits | Hackaday [01:40] *GPLv3 is now known as Noisytoot [01:40] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Think it would be embarrassing to Lenovo if I posted about the BIOS bugs the kernel complains about, mentioning they're there in Windows too and Windows just hides them from you and works around it as well. [01:41] DaemonFC Nevertheless, this is what Lenovo puts in $1,000+ laptops. [01:41] techrights-news Rolling #gnu #linux OSI for #ArchLinux 2021.10.01 now available http://www.archlinux.org/ #freesw [01:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-archlinux.org | Arch Linux [01:41] techrights-news If #Fedora wont package #KDE properly, they should drop the packages and tell people to use some other operating system. https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/10/02/if-fedora-wont-package-kde-properly-they-should-drop-the-packages-and-tell-people-to-use-some-other-operating-system/ #RedHat #IBM [01:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | If Fedora wont package KDE properly, they should drop the packages and tell people to use some other operating system. BaronHK's Rants [01:41] techrights-news Right wing. https://hugelolcdn.com/i/776736.jpg [01:42] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: if you can prove it, yes [01:43] DaemonFC I can copypaste the kernel log about them and post an Ubuntu bug where a Ubuntu developer said ignore them, they're harmless, but it looks a lot worse than it is. [01:43] DaemonFC I think it would be funny. [01:43] *Despatche_ has quit (Quit: Read error: Connection reset by deer) [01:44] techrights-news Self Documenting Code Is Just A Meme - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ZVvisuL0D9M #video #invidious #programming [01:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Self Documenting Code Is Just A Meme - Invidious [01:45] techrights-news #HowTo Install Printers On Linux - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=jnmCbEWNV1w #video #invidiou #gnu #linux [01:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | How To Install Printers On Linux - Invidious [01:45] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: it would be, yes [01:48] techrights-news Linus Torvalds on Community, Rust and Linuxs Longevity https://thenewstack.io/linus-torvalds-on-community-rust-and-linuxs-longevity/ article from LF-paid #corruptMedia (puff pieces, Seattle/Microsoft) "The Linux Foundation and VMware Tanzu are sponsors of The New Stack." [01:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thenewstack.io | Linus Torvalds on Community, Rust and Linuxs Longevity The New Stack [01:48] techrights-news #ibm #financialEngineering #buybacks #layoffs "I predict they'll fudge the numbers, like they always do. And the Analysts will clap like trained seals." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1d7cgO15#replies [01:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Q3 Earnings Predictions - post regarding IBM layoffs [01:48] techrights-news Cameron Kaiser: curl, Let's Encrypt and Apple laziness http://tenfourfox.blogspot.com/2021/10/curl-lets-encrypt-and-apple-laziness.html the certificates mill or pyramid scheme (outsourcing 'trust' upwards) vomiting inside its own mouth again http://techrights.org/2020/03/04/lets-ask-lets-encrypt/ [01:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tenfourfox.blogspot.com | TenFourFox Development: curl, Let's Encrypt and Apple laziness [01:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Urges Readers to Ask the Linux Foundations Lets Encrypt (Backed by Companies That Give the NSA Back Doors) Some Hard But Legitimate Questions | Techrights [01:51] techrights-news George https://hugelolcdn.com/i/776562.jpg [01:51] techrights-news #OpenBLAS 0.3.18 Released With #LoongArch64 Support, More Optimizations - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OpenBLAS-0.3.18-Released needs to #deletegithub #Microsoft #ProprietarySoftware http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_Github [01:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-OpenBLAS 0.3.18 Released With LoongArch64 Support, More Optimizations - Phoronix [01:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Delete Github - Techrights [01:51] techrights-news #Intel #oneAPI is outsourced to #Microsoft #ProprietarySoftware and is hostile https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-oneAPI-2021.4 see details about it in http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks [01:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel oneAPI 2021.4 Released With More Optimizations, Continues LLVM Adoption - Phoronix [01:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Intel leaks - Techrights [01:52] techrights-news Stay away from compilers, creepenberg https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Facebook-Compiler-Gym #fb #facebook #datamining #compiler [01:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Facebook Is Aiming To Make Compilers Faster Using Machine Learning With CompilerGym - Phoronix [01:55] techrights-news Nearly Two Decades Later, #ATI #Radeon R300 #Linux Driver Sees Occasional Improvement http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156373 [01:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Nearly Two Decades Later, ATI Radeon R300 Linux Driver Sees Occasional Improvement | Tux Machines [01:56] techrights-news #Timetagger : #freesw (GPL) time-tracker with precision http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156374 #TuxMachines [01:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Timetagger: an open-source time-tracker with precision | Tux Machines [01:56] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Can you repost this, and see if we can get a rise out of them? [01:56] techrights-news #helloSystem 0.6 Released For macOS-Inspired #FreeBSD http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156372 They would be wise to #deletrgithub as it is hostile #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_Github [01:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | helloSystem 0.6 Released For macOS-Inspired FreeBSD | Tux Machines [01:56] DaemonFC It's going to be good. Maybe they'll even clean it up. [01:56] DaemonFC Doubt it, but give them another black eye. [01:57] schestowitz-TR repost what? [01:57] schestowitz-TR what you will publish next? [01:57] schestowitz-TR it sounds like on-topic [01:57] schestowitz-TR you had lenovo on the run before (2016) [01:58] schestowitz-TR with the same name : baronHK [01:58] schestowitz-TR in reddit [01:58] techrights-news The 10 Best #RaspberryPi Apps, Programs, and #Software to Install http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156366 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The 10 Best Raspberry Pi Apps, Programs, and Software to Install | Tux Machines [01:59] XRevan86 There's a change on freenode.net! [01:59] XRevan86 There is a change! [01:59] XRevan86 September 28th a Shells.com logo appeared on the top right. ● Oct 03 [02:00] XRevan86 That's it. [02:01] XRevan86 So I guess Shells has no issue with being involved in this mess. [02:03] XRevan86 or rather, being openly affiliated [02:04] techrights-news Rusted #Kernel and Torvalds Views About It http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156364 #GPL #Torvalds #Linux #TuxMachines [02:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Rusted Kernel and Torvalds' Views About It | Tux Machines [02:04] techrights-news Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156363 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [02:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines [02:05] XRevan86 imperialfamily.com got another service under "Technology", blockchain-related. [02:05] XRevan86 I still can't get over it having "IRC" mentioned there (leads to irc.com) [02:07] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156362 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [02:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [02:07] techrights-news #Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156361 #TuxMachines [02:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [02:08] techrights-news #HexChat IRC Client 2.16.0 Adds New #IRCv3 Features, Strikethrough Formatting http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156365 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [02:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | HexChat IRC Client 2.16.0 Adds New IRCv3 Features, Strikethrough Formatting | Tux Machines [02:11] techrights-news Links 2/10/2021: #KQuickImageEditor 0.2 and Another Wayland Push http://techrights.org/2021/10/02/kquickimageeditor-0-2/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/02/kquickimageeditor-0-2/ [02:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 2/10/2021: KQuickImageEditor 0.2 and Another Wayland Push | Techrights [02:12] techrights-news Mini Pupper, an open-source robot dog powered by #RaspberryPi http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156319#comment-31245 #ubuntu #gnu #linux [02:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Meet Mini Pupper: the Robot Dog That Is Just as Smart as a Border Collie | Tux Machines [02:12] *Despatche (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #techrights [02:15] techrights-news What are #Flatpak and How Do They Help on a GNU/Linux Distribution Such as Debian? Why Are They Better Than Snaps? http://techrights.org/2021/10/02/flatpak-viewpoint/ #ibm #redhat #gnu #linux [02:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | What are Flatpaks and How Do They Help on a GNU/Linux Distribution Such as Debian? Why Are They Better Than Snaps? | Techrights [02:16] techrights-news #SecureBoot is #Microsoft trash that was designed to paper over http://techrights.org/2021/10/02/secure-boot-and-vmd/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/02/secure-boot-and-vmd/ [02:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Secure Boot and Intel VMD Pointless on GNU/Linux and Lenovos Documentation Recommends That You Turn Them Off | Techrights [02:16] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 24.66 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 8.70 swarm size (avg): 257.96 [02:22] techrights-news #WebBrowsers : #SeaMonkey , Chrome, #GNOME Web and Firefox http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156360 #TuxMachines [02:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Web Browsers: SeaMonkey, Chrome, GNOME Web and Firefox | Tux Machines [02:23] techrights-news #Games : #Valve , Emulation, and Epic http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156359 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [02:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Valve, Emulation, and Epic | Tux Machines [02:23] techrights-news Open-source veteran #PostgreSQL emits release 14: Tweaked, scalable, and ready to get heavy http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156268#comment-31244 #Postgres #psal [02:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PostgreSQL 14 Released! | Tux Machines [02:27] techrights-news #Wayland Support Plan for #Firefox http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156325#comment-31243 #mozilla #graphics [02:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Firefox Wayland development in 2021 | Tux Machines [02:28] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156358 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [02:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [02:28] schestowitz [02:01] So I guess Shells has no issue with being involved in this mess. [02:29] schestowitz when I last checked the logo had already been removed [02:29] schestowitz I see no more paid-for fluff for Shells except in GoogleTube [02:29] techrights-news Plasma 5.23 Lands More Last-Minute Fixes To Avoid #Wayland Crashes http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156343#comment-31242 #kde #gnu #linux [02:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | This week in KDE: Getting Plasma 5.23 ready for release | Tux Machines [02:29] XRevan86 schestowitz: It's there now, since Sep 28. [02:29] techrights-news #FreeSoftware Foundation Introduces #JShelter Browser Add-on to Restrict #JavaScript API http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156299#comment-31241 [02:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Free Software Foundation (FSF) Tackling Proprietary JavaScript | Tux Machines [02:30] schestowitz not a grear placement spot, XRevan86 [02:30] schestowitz not before freenode collapsed and not now [02:31] schestowitz most people use freenode.net over irc protocol [02:31] schestowitz they rarely check twitter account, www site etc. [02:31] techrights-news #Microsoft #SecureBoot and #Intel #VMD Pointless on GNU/Linux and Lenovos Documentation Recommends That You Turn Them Off http://techrights.org/2021/10/02/secure-boot-and-vmd/ #Techrights | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/02/secure-boot-and-vmd/ [02:35] XRevan86 schestowitz: Yes, I believe Shells is harming itself by endorsement. [02:35] techrights-news Confusion and conflicts around #freesw in #Italy http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156357 #Microsoft moles, i.e. the usual from this #cult [02:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Confusion and conflicts around Open Source in Italy | Tux Machines [02:35] techrights-news Distros Which Adopted Wayland in 2021 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156352 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [02:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Distros Which Adopted Wayland in 2021 | Tux Machines [02:35] XRevan86 Meanwhile, a dead link to freenode live is still right there in the footer. Priorities. [02:36] techrights-news Getting Started with the Yocto Linux BSP for Polarfire SoC FPGA Icicle Kit http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156353 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [02:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Getting Started with the Yocto Linux BSP for Polarfire SoC FPGA Icicle Kit | Tux Machines [02:36] techrights-news #KQuickImageEditor 0.2 released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156354 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [02:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KQuickImageEditor 0.2 released | Tux Machines [02:37] DaemonFC https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/10/03/lenovo-ships-thinkbook-15-gen2-itl-series-full-of-uefi-bios-acpi-bugs-releases-half-a-dozen-bios-updates-and-doesnt-fix-the-bugs/ [02:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Lenovo ships ThinkBook 15 Gen2 ITL series full of uEFI BIOS ACPI bugs, releases half a dozen BIOS updates, and doesnt fix the bugs. BaronHK's Rants [02:37] DaemonFC schestowitz, ^ [02:37] techrights-news techpol + social irc Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-021021.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-021021.txt GEMINI: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-021021.txt [02:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, October 02, 2021 [02:37] activelow who is the vendor/supplier of the UEFI BIOS? [02:38] DaemonFC I don't know. They seem to supply Dell, Acer, and Gigabyte though. [02:38] techrights-news techrights irc Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-021021.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-021021.txt GEMINI: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techrights-021021.txt [02:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, October 02, 2021 [02:38] DaemonFC So it's one of those "off the shelf" things that the OEM customizes. [02:38] activelow the legacy ones were phoenix, ami, award [02:38] techrights-news 15 of the Best Linux #Games in 2021 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156355 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [02:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 15 of the Best Linux Games in 2021 | Tux Machines [02:38] DaemonFC Because the same errors pop up on many brands of laptop. [02:38] DaemonFC schestowitz, I quoted. [02:38] techrights-news #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156356 #Linux #TuxMachines [02:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [02:38] DaemonFC What the user is supposed to do is feel uncomfortable, and when he has bugs, suspect that the problem is [the competitors product], and then go buy [our product]. [02:38] DaemonFC Former Microsoft Senior Vice President Brad Silverberg [02:39] techrights-news #Lenovo Legion Play leaked: Handheld game console running #Android http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156367 #Games #Linux #TuxMachines [02:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Lenovo Legion Play leaked: Handheld game console running Android | Tux Machines [02:39] techrights-news boycottnovell irc Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. 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And just days before Percona will have made a presentation on the topic. 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( status 0 @ https://blog.jdpfu.com/2021/10/01/tls-in-2021 ) [07:28] *mahlon__ is now known as mahlon [07:28] techrights-news #Techrights Bulletin for Saturday, October 02, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext [07:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives [07:28] techrights-news #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing [07:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index [07:50] techrights-news Pop OS 21.10 Release May Support ARM (arm64/AArch64) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156375 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [07:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Pop OS 21.10 Release May Support ARM (arm64/AArch64) | Tux Machines [07:54] techrights-news NEWS #JacobinMag #Finance US Empire Is Lining the Pockets of Defense Contractors https://jacobinmag.com/2021/09/united-states-war-iraq-afghanistan-profiteering-defense-contractors/ which includes bailing out #microsoft http://techrights.org/2021/04/04/microsoft-nationalism/ [07:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jacobinmag.com | US Empire Is Lining the Pockets of Defense Contractors [07:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft: Nationalism As A Service (NaaS) | Techrights [07:57] techrights-news NEWS #Zimbabwe #Nigeria #NG #africa Nigerias govt will lift the #Twitter ban if certain conditions are met https://www.techzim.co.zw/2021/10/nigerias-govt-will-lift-the-twitter-ban-if-certain-conditions-are-met/ [07:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techzim.co.zw | Nigeria's govt will lift the Twitter ban if certain conditions are met - Techzim [07:57] techrights-news NEWS #PCMag #Google Commits $1 Million to Secure #freesw Program https://www.pcmag.com/news/google-commits-1-million-to-secure-open-source-program [07:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Google Commits $1 Million to Secure Open-Source Program | PCMag [07:59] techrights-news NEWS #France24 #Misinformation #Disinformation I feel like Ive lost him: The families torn apart by conspiracy theories https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20211001-i-feel-like-i-ve-lost-him-families-torn-apart-by-conspiracy-theories [07:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.france24.com | I feel like Ive lost him: The families torn apart by conspiracy theories [07:59] techrights-news NEWS #Salon #Misinformation #Disinformation Rudy #Giuliani openly admits his #election fraud "evidence" came from social media posts https://www.salon.com/2021/10/02/rudy-giuliani-openly-admits-his-fraud-evidence-came-from-social-media-posts/ [07:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Rudy Giuliani openly admits his election fraud "evidence" came from social media posts | Salon.com ● Oct 03 [08:02] techrights-news NEWS #AliRezaHayati #Censorship #Telegram censorship https://alirezahayati.com/2021/09/29/telegram-censorship/ [08:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-alirezahayati.com | Telegram censorship - Ali Reza Hayati [08:02] techrights-news NEWS #PatrickBreyer #Censorship Digital Services Act: Legal Affairs Committee Attacks User Privacy And Free Speech Online https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/digital-services-act-legal-affairs-committee-attacks-user-privacy-and-free-speech-online/ [08:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patrick-breyer.de | Digital Services Act: Legal Affairs Committee attacks user privacy and free speech online Patrick Breyer [08:07] *m___ (~Adium@mfgnrw6khgqhe.irc) has joined #techrights [08:11] techrights-news NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights Prosecutors Drop #Fraud Case Against Danish Copyright Troll Law Firm https://torrentfreak.com/prosecutors-drop-fraud-case-against-danish-copyright-troll-law-firm-211002/ [08:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Prosecutors Drop Fraud Case Against Danish 'Copyright Troll' Law Firm * TorrentFreak [08:14] techrights-news MAKE THIS HAPPEN! https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/make-this-happen!:9 #rossmanngroup [08:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-odysee.com | MAKE THIS HAPPEN! [08:14] schestowitz "Such apps are more pervasive on phones running Android, researchers said, because the more open nature of Googles software system gives the programs deeper access to device data and lets people install whatever apps they want on their phones." [08:14] schestowitz x https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/29/technology/personaltech/stalkerware-apps-protection.html [08:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | How to Find 'Stalkerware' on Your Devices - The New York Times [08:15] techrights-news #microsoft #windows kills https://www.wsj.com/articles/ransomware-hackers-hospital-first-alleged-death-11633008116 see a lot more in http://techrights.org/2020/06/09/windows-disaster-zones/ [08:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A Hospital Hit by Hackers, a Baby in Distress: The Case of the First Alleged Ransomware Death - WSJ [08:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Index of the Series About Windows Inside Hospitals (Causing Hospitals to Become Disaster Zones) | Techrights [08:16] schestowitz x https://www.startpage.com/sp/search?q=software+patents [08:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.startpage.com | [08:16] schestowitz # mostly shyster law firms lying [08:16] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 21.06 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 9.73 swarm size (avg): 258.05 [08:25] schestowitz # https://joindiaspora.com/posts/21684225 [08:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: I still can't quite believe it but the Linux user share on Steam has not only remained above 1% for three months, it's actually risen again. [08:25] schestowitz # it would be important to know how they classify they user share; [08:25] schestowitz # it's quite likely that even if the number is still small, it may [08:25] schestowitz # nonetheless be (intentionally) undercounted [08:27] schestowitz re https://joindiaspora.com/posts/21684225 that's a quote from Liam Dawe, but I neglected the quote signs by accident. I don't even agree with him [08:33] schestowitz x https://www.mondaq.com/patent/1065190/software-patents-in-europe-remain-a-delicate-issue [08:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | Software Patents In Europe Remain A Delicate Issue - Intellectual Property - European Union [08:33] schestowitz = [08:33] schestowitz x https://startupxplore.com/en/blog/startup-patents-in-europe/ [08:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-startupxplore.com | Software patents in Europe: how do they affect startups? [08:41] schestowitz old: The European Parliament has voted against patenting software, burying the proposal from the Commission and Council. Parliaments overwhelming rejection sends a clear message to the other two institutions that no legislative proposal requiring its agreemen can succeed unless its opinion is taken seriously. But the debate isnt over: how long will it be before the next bout of arm-wrsting begins between te supporters of free software [08:41] schestowitz for all and those advocating American-style patenting? https://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-//EP//NONSGML+IM-PRESS+20050819FCS01001+0+DOC+PDF+V0//EN&language=EN [08:44] schestowitz x https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/strategy-and-management/3-lakh-youth-to-get-free-technical-skills-training-under-digisaksham-initiative/86675974 [08:44] schestowitz # M$ marketing and indoctrination paid for by the government [08:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | 3 lakh youth to get free technical skills training under DigiSaksham initiative, IT News, ET CIO [08:44] schestowitz x https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/corporate-news/microsoft-office-2021-starts-at-150-to-arrive-on-oct-5/86704562 [08:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | microsoft office: Microsoft Office 2021 starts at $150, to arrive on Oct 5, IT News, ET CIO [08:44] schestowitz # fails to mention the option of upgrading to Calligra or LibreOffice [08:46] schestowitz CBC/Radio-Canada platforms are not anonymous and the use of pseudonyms is prohibited, except in children and youth-oriented communities. Upon registering, you must provide your first and last names, which will appear alongside each of your submissions to our site. CBC/Radio-Canada reserves the right to disable any comment if there exists a doubt as to the identity of its author. Stealing another persons identity with the intent to mislead or [08:46] schestowitz cause harm is a serious offense punishable by expulsion from the community. https://www.cbc.ca/aboutcbc/discover/submissions.html [08:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-CBC.ca - Submissions [08:54] techrights-news #IRC Proceedings: Saturday, October 02, 2021 http://techrights.org/2021/10/03/irc-log-021021/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/03/irc-log-021021/ [08:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Saturday, October 02, 2021 | Techrights [08:57] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [08:58] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Oct 03 [09:02] techrights-news "I got interviewed for BSD Now." https://bsd.network/@bcallah/107026607446675849 [09:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bsd.network | Dr. Brian Callahan: "I got interviewed for BSD Now. The interview is l" - BSD Network [09:06] techrights-news "Is it reasonable for #Facebook to have power over political issues? The question is again relevant after the social network closed down Sweden's largest online forum to legalize cannabis." https://translate.google.com/translate?depth=1&hl=en&prev=search&rurl=translate.google.co.uk&sl=sv&u=https://femtejuli.se/2021/09/28/facebook-stryper-drogdebatten/ [09:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-femtejuli-se.translate.goog | Facebook stryper den politiska debatten [09:13] techrights-news Lobbyist Eileen McDermott at #watchtroll wants us to think #patent #litigation firms are the sole stakeholders, not merely parasites which destory #science ("Stakeholders Speak: Leahy Bill to Restore the AIA is Too Unbalanced to Pass" [09:16] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 22.58 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 3.95 swarm size (avg): 258.07 [09:23] *m___ has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [09:42] *rianne (~rianne@ctqz25uirqr88.irc) has joined #techrights [09:43] *liberty_box (~liberty@ctqz25uirqr88.irc) has joined #techrights ● Oct 03 [10:34] techrights-news #Patent extremists and #litigation profiteers show their true colours; they don't care about #science and inventors, all they want is lots of #patents and #lawsuits https://www.mondaq.com/southafrica/patent/1116110/dabus-the-natural-person39-problem [10:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | DABUS: The natural Person' Problem - Intellectual Property - Worldwide [10:37] techrights-news Australian #patent attorney on Australian lunacy, giving #patents to bots https://blog.patentology.com.au/2021/10/dabus-again-denied-in-us-and-uk-part-i.htmlpart 2: https://blog.patentology.com.au/2021/10/dabus-again-denied-in-us-and-uk-part-ii.html #DABUS #rickrolling #au [10:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://blog.patentology.com.au/2021/10/dabus-again-denied-in-us-and-uk-part-i.htmlpart ) [10:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.patentology.com.au | DABUS Again Denied in the US and the UK, Part II the Split Decision in the UK ~ patentology [10:38] techrights-news #epo has lowered itself to the quality levels of #china https://www.epo.org/news-events/news/2021/20211001.html see http://techrights.org/wiki/EPO [10:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.epo.org | EPO - User survey on CNIPA-EPO pilot on ISA-files [10:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO - Techrights [10:39] *GNUmoon2 has quit (connection closed) [10:40] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@mf675eetsurxw.irc) has joined #techrights [10:40] techrights-news #EPO : "Survey replies are anonymous, confidential and personal data is processed in accordance with the Guidelines for the Protection of Personal Data in the EPO." Contrary to what EPO tells you about privacy, it is in breach of #privacy laws. See http://techrights.org/2021/03/22/epoleaks-report-march-2021-finale/ [10:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO and Microsoft Collude to Break the Law Summing Up: EPO Administrative Council Still Asleep at the Wheel | Techrights [10:42] techrights-news Only one publisher, and merely a blog, covered this story. Imagine that. #epo corrupted so much of the media; the rest? It blackmailed it. http://suepo.org/october_2021_press_articles/d-47423 [10:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-suepo.org | [10:43] techrights-news Another #epo series in the making and coming soon. Some background: http://techrights.org/2021/03/22/epoleaks-report-march-2021-finale/ [10:49] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156376 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [10:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [10:55] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@a3jpzx4hxtj6s.irc) has joined #techrights [10:55] schestowitz-TR Despatche: gm [10:55] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: ^ [10:55] DaemonFC Morning [10:56] schestowitz-TR I will report typos if I find them now [10:56] schestowitz-TR the lenovo articles at over 3k views now [10:56] schestowitz-TR *article [10:56] Despatche :Q [10:57] schestowitz-TR complements instead of compliments [10:57] schestowitz-TR Despatche: sorry, auto-complete [10:57] schestowitz-TR good morning to you too [10:59] schestowitz DaemonFC: "Im also not really sure where this f " [10:59] schestowitz incomplete sentence? ● Oct 03 [11:00] Despatche gm [11:00] DaemonFC Ooops. [11:00] DaemonFC Which post? [11:01] DaemonFC I'm writing another one about the Nvidia driver. [11:01] DaemonFC Since Fedora says we're "insulting Nvidia's feelings" by saying the truth about it. [11:02] schestowitz-TR the browser one. can you see it? [11:03] DaemonFC Wordpress sometimes loads old drafts. [11:03] DaemonFC Trips you up. [11:05] DaemonFC I just went ahead and removed it. I think I accidentally pasted something there that was an incomplete sentence meant for something else. [11:05] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:05] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:05] schestowitz OK, I will delete that half sentence [11:07] schestowitz DaemonFC: I had similar Miceosoft experiences [11:07] schestowitz at work, one client uses Outlook [11:07] schestowitz if I log in with falkon or qupzilla, it'll give some really old fallback UIw [11:07] schestowitz without even giving it a change to cope or 'prove itself' with the current [11:08] schestowitz I reckon, less CPU cycles and spying anyway [11:08] schestowitz and maybe once in 2 months I need to lot into that [11:09] techrights-news #GNOMEWeb 41 Flatpak Review and Bonus: You MUST Have a Web Browser in Debian! (Is This a Bug?) http://techrights.org/2021/10/03/gnome-web-41-flatpak-review/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/03/gnome-web-41-flatpak-review/ [11:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | GNOME Web 41 Flatpak Review and Bonus: You MUST Have a Web Browser in Debian! (Is This a Bug?) | Techrights [11:12] techrights-news #apple is becoming ever so creepy and people who buy Apple products (still) seem incredibly dumb to those who do not (or stopped doing that) https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/10/02/apple-adding-spyware-to-iphones-to-detect-if-youre-mentally-ill-using-the-camera/ [11:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Apple adding spyware to iPhones to detect if youre mentally ill, using the camera. BaronHK's Rants [11:17] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 24.88 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 9.56 swarm size (avg): 258.08 [11:20] *liberty_box (~liberty@ctqz25uirqr88.irc) has joined #techrights [11:20] *rianne (~rianne@ctqz25uirqr88.irc) has joined #techrights [11:29] techrights-news #Lenovo Ships #ThinkBook 15 Gen2 ITL Series Full of #UEFI BIOS #ACPI Bugs, Releases Half a Dozen #BIOS Updates, and Doesnt Fix the Bugs http://techrights.org/2021/10/03/uefi-bios-acpi-bugs/ [11:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Lenovo Ships ThinkBook 15 Gen2 ITL Series Full of UEFI BIOS ACPI Bugs, Releases Half a Dozen BIOS Updates, and Doesnt Fix the Bugs | Techrights [11:45] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:55] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:55] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:56] techrights-news #LinusTorvalds is Not in Charge Anymore, All Important Decisions Are Made by Monopolistic Corporations http://techrights.org/2021/10/03/monopolistic-linus/ #Torvalds #Linux #Kernel [11:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linus Torvalds is Not in Charge Anymore, All Important Decisions Are Made by Monopolistic Corporations | Techrights ● Oct 03 [12:01] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@ctqz25uirqr88.irc) has joined #techrights [12:02] techrights-news The story behind #Gwenview name http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156377 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #KDE [12:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The story behind Gwenview name | Tux Machines [12:02] techrights-news Best #FreeSW Software September 2021 Updates http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156378 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [12:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Best Free and Open Source Software September 2021 Updates | Tux Machines [12:07] *rianne (~rianne@ctqz25uirqr88.irc) has joined #techrights [12:08] *liberty_box (~liberty@ctqz25uirqr88.irc) has joined #techrights [12:09] techrights-news Today in #Techrights http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156379 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [12:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines [12:15] techrights-news #FreeSW / #GPL Changed #Linux Otherwise It Was Done: Linus Torvalds http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156380 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [12:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Source Changed Linux Otherwise It Was Done: Linus Torvalds | Tux Machines [12:27] DaemonFC schestowitz, https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/10/03/on-nvidia-cards-and-gnu-linux-why-you-should-make-sure-your-next-pc-doesnt-have-an-nvidia-card/ [12:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | On Nvidia cards and GNU/Linux. Why you should make sure your next PC doesnt have an Nvidia card. BaronHK's Rants [12:29] schestowitz-TR thanks, will read this after Daily Links [12:30] schestowitz-TR deepest sympathies to nvidia [12:30] schestowitz-TR poor company [12:30] schestowitz-TR so poor it wants to buy arm [12:36] techrights-news Links 3/10/2021: #helloSystem 0.6, 2021 Chaos Communication Congress Cancelled http://techrights.org/2021/10/03/hellosystem-0-6/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/03/hellosystem-0-6/ [12:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 3/10/2021: helloSystem 0.6, 2021 Chaos Communication Congress Cancelled | Techrights [12:40] techrights-news TIL it is actually #india (not NK) with the highest capacity stadium https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narendra_Modi_Stadium compare to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rungrado_1st_of_May_Stadium [12:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Narendra Modi Stadium - Wikipedia [12:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Rungrado 1st of May Stadium - Wikipedia [12:40] techrights-news #ProprietarySoftware and Security Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156381 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [12:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proprietary Software and Security Leftovers | Tux Machines [12:40] techrights-news #Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156382 [12:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [12:41] techrights-news #OpenHardware /Modding Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156383 [12:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Hardware/Modding Leftovers | Tux Machines [12:41] techrights-news New #Finnix web site launched http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156384 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [12:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Finnix web site launched | Tux Machines [12:41] techrights-news Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156385 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [12:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines [12:42] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:42] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:43] techrights-news "Unfortunately, #IBM was obsessed with stock buybacks and dividend payout vs investing in organic growth. It should have instead poured more money in their Cloud to keep pace with their rivals." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1d6y5hFp#replies [12:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | IBM didn't lose the cloud... - post regarding IBM layoffs [12:43] techrights-news 45 mins ago: "Compensation and incentive misalignment of overall strategy is a big issue it seems at #IBM from people I know who work there." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1d6y5hFp#replies [12:45] techrights-news ""Small-web" or "small-net" are sometimes used, most often to describe a combination browser for these protocols. There's quite a bit of overlap between the communities." https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/007251.html [12:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | Gemini Newsgroup RFD [12:48] Despatche DaemonFC: that's funny, i am so often told that nvidia is better simply because the driver is so great. yet here we are [12:50] Despatche oh newer cards don't support nouveau? fucked [12:53] *rianne (~rianne@ctqz25uirqr88.irc) has joined #techrights [12:53] *liberty_box (~liberty@ctqz25uirqr88.irc) has joined #techrights ● Oct 03 [13:01] DaemonFC They do, but only barely. [13:01] DaemonFC You wouldn't want to use it. [13:02] DaemonFC Unless it's some el cheapo card, and I don't think Nvidia does too much of that anymore. Used to shove some integrated graphics in cheap Walmart computers back when there was no processor graphics section on the CPU. [13:02] DaemonFC Back then, the Nvidia blob didn't even always work correctly. [13:03] DaemonFC I had this one, an eMachines system, and the Nvidia blob _kind_ of worked. It detected it as the wrong model number and it was glitchy. I ended up buying an entry level Nvidia card off Newegg and plugging it into the PCI port. [13:04] DaemonFC A while later, Newegg was dumping a bunch of obsolete processors at fire sale prices and I managed to step up to a CPU that was about 40% faster than that wimpy Sempron, and it only set me back $15 including shipping. [13:09] schestowitz-TR not just NVIDIA [13:09] schestowitz-TR they may be the worst though [13:10] schestowitz-TR AMD talks of "open" [13:10] schestowitz-TR and does throw some code on Microsoft ***hub [13:10] schestowitz-TR but it's openwashing [13:11] techrights-news Just several days ago, I gave a mostly favorable review of #GNOMEWeb 3.38.2 as packaged by Debian 11 GNU/Linux. http://techrights.org/2021/10/03/gnome-web-41-flatpak-review/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/03/gnome-web-41-flatpak-review/ [13:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | GNOME Web 41 Flatpak Review and Bonus: You MUST Have a Web Browser in Debian! (Is This a Bug?) | Techrights [13:12] techrights-news For those who wonder what an OEM like #Lenovo actually ships in their uEFI firmware, and what Microsoft Windows simply works around and helps them hide http://techrights.org/2021/10/03/uefi-bios-acpi-bugs/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/03/uefi-bios-acpi-bugs/ [13:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Lenovo Ships ThinkBook 15 Gen2 ITL Series Full of UEFI BIOS ACPI Bugs, Releases Half a Dozen BIOS Updates, and Doesnt Fix the Bugs | Techrights [13:13] Despatche shithub [13:13] schestowitz-TR yup [13:14] techrights-news The corporate users of Linux, the #kernel at least, call all the shots; they try to do the same to GNU, so ordinary users and grassroots movements are left mostly in the dark, and thats jeopardising users basic freedoms http://techrights.org/2021/10/03/monopolistic-linus/ #Techrights #GPL #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/03/monopolis [13:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linus Torvalds is Not in Charge Anymore, All Important Decisions Are Made by Monopolistic Corporations | Techrights [13:16] techrights-news "The 613 #patent relates to asset management databases" = #swpats = #fakepatents https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/9/30/ip-edge-entity-paradise-ip-patent-challenged #patentTrolls [13:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unifiedpatents.com | IP Edge entity, Paradise IP, patent challenged Unified Patents [13:17] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 23.81 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 13.28 swarm size (avg): 258.10 [13:17] techrights-news "In fact as Senator Patrick Leahy introduced the Restoring the America Invents Act to address the uncertainty with Fintiv, reexaminations have made a significant comeback and are expected to continue to grow by 33%." https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021-patent-dispute-report-third-quarter-in-review [13:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unifiedpatents.com | 2021 Patent Dispute Report: Third Quarter in Review Unified Patents [13:18] techrights-news " #CCIA strongly supports this legislation." https://www.patentprogress.org/2021/10/01/leahy-and-cornyn-introduce-bill-to-restore-the-america-invents-act/ #patents #uspto #patent #ptab [13:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patentprogress.org | Leahy and Cornyn Introduce Bill To Restore The America Invents Act - Patent Progress [13:19] *inky (~inky@5.77.174.22) has joined #techrights [13:21] techrights-news "If this infringement is of a commercial nature (which only excludes acts in the private sphere for noncommercial purposes), the right to request documents also extends to banking, financial and commercial documents." #germany #de #patent #europe #patents https://www.mondaq.com/germany/patent/1095044/ip-insights-the-right-to-inspection-under-german-patent-law- [13:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | IP Insights: The Right To Inspection Under German Patent Law - Intellectual Property - Germany [13:22] *inky_ has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [13:24] techrights-news "On 14 September 2021, the Japan Patent Office (JPO) announced that most of the amendments to the Patent Act and other intellectual [sic] property [sic] laws" [sic]... no, there is a #patent law... there's no such thing as "intellectual property" but the #litigation #profiteers perpetuate this #propaganda term http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/09/30/a-japanese-version-amicus-brief-system-will-be-introduced-in-spring-2022/ [13:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | A Japanese version Amicus Brief system will be introduced in spring 2022 - Kluwer Patent Blog [13:25] *Despatche has quit (Quit: Read error: Connection reset by deer) [13:25] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: OK to reproduce this? [13:25] DaemonFC Yeah [13:25] schestowitz-TR thanks! [13:26] schestowitz-TR the first lenovo article at 3,300 now [13:26] *psydroid3 (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #techrights [13:26] schestowitz-TR maybe they will send PR people to social control media [13:26] schestowitz-TR or maybe the Googl;e pervert will say something [13:29] techrights-news On 14 September 2021, the Japan Patent Office (JPO) announced that most of the amendments to the Patent Act and other intellectual [sic] property [sic] laws [sic] no, there is a #patent law theres no such thing as intellectual property but the #litigation #profiteers perpetuate this #propaganda term http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/09/30/a-japanese-version-amicus-brief-system-will-be-introduced-in-spring-20 [13:29] schestowitz #patents are a barrier to this https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/opinion/article/2001425152/why-any-move-to-make-health-care-cheaper-is-welcome [13:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.standardmedia.co.ke | Why any move to make health care cheaper is welcome - The Standard [13:30] techrights-news #Xubuntu Development Update September 2021 https://bluesabre.org/2021/10/03/xubuntu-development-update-september-2021/ #gnu #linux [13:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bluesabre.org | Xubuntu Development Update September 2021 [13:32] DaemonFC schestowitz, Regarding Rust in the Linux kernel, I'm not sure I can see a good technical reason to specifically exclude it. [13:33] schestowitz-TR i think it's reversed [13:33] schestowitz-TR why not python [13:33] schestowitz-TR why INCLUDE it? [13:33] schestowitz-TR I & D? [13:33] schestowitz-TR the new buzzword? [13:33] schestowitz-TR include Microsoft? [13:34] DaemonFC There are entire operating systems written in Rust now. Other than the usual "nobody uses this so there's not many drivers", I think that Redox OS is alright. [13:34] schestowitz-TR including NSA? [13:34] DaemonFC Well, Python is interpreted and slow, and it changes in horribly incompatible ways. [13:34] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: but it uses rust from the get-go [13:34] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: so does rust [13:34] schestowitz-TR i mentioned that [13:34] DaemonFC You learn it and in a few years, you relearn it and write the same code over and over, and it's just stupid. [13:35] techrights-news Linux Mint 20.3 is Planned to Arrive for Christmas This Year http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155731#comment-31246 [13:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Mints New Website is Live (And Yes, It Looks Fresh | Tux Machines [13:35] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:36] DaemonFC I think that languages that change in a way where older valid code doesn't even compile anymore are not worth looking at. [13:36] DaemonFC C code may break in a new compiler if there are bugs in the new compiler or because the old compiler was letting you get away with something it shouldn't have. Those are usually why C can break. [13:37] DaemonFC If you were writing valid C, and barring compiler bugs, it shouldn't just break. [13:37] schestowitz-TR wait [13:37] schestowitz-TR that's a feature [13:37] schestowitz-TR it highlights bugs to you [13:37] schestowitz-TR not the same as something breaking for "innovation" [13:37] DaemonFC Right, it does, and GCC has been pretty forgiving of C bugs. Too forgiving. [13:38] DaemonFC The fact that Xorg even compiles is proof of that. [13:38] schestowitz-TR catching more bugs is a feature [13:38] schestowitz-TR but that feature is not a bug [13:38] DaemonFC Instead of fixing the bugs that GCC warns on, many people just silence the warnings. [13:38] DaemonFC And that's what happened with over 1,000 bugs in X11 a few years back. [13:39] DaemonFC The only thing that catches some people's attention is if you just go ahead and refuse to compile their program. [13:41] schestowitz-TR they can change the compiler [13:41] schestowitz-TR and get away with it [13:42] techrights-news #GNU " #Linux #Gaming Grows" https://www.gamersnexus.net/news-pc/3669-hw-news-caselabs-back-from-dead-linux-gaming-valve-steam-deck [13:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamersnexus.net | HW News - CaseLabs Resurrected, Linux Gaming Grows, Valve Steam Deck Updates | GamersNexus - Gaming PC Builds & Hardware Benchmarks [13:42] DaemonFC Fedora doesn't change GCC except maybe some patches that are going upstream anyway. [13:43] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156386 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [13:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [13:43] DaemonFC The GCC project roasted Red Hat over that one time they released a broken beta version of GCC. That was funny. [13:43] DaemonFC And it was just as much the fault of the GCC project as Red Hat's, honestly. [13:44] schestowitz-TR SUSE is also involved heavily [13:44] DaemonFC They were taking forever to get the release out and so Red Hat just goes fuck this, and built a development copy. [13:44] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, I tried FlightGear. [13:45] DaemonFC The Flatpak was a problem, actually. [13:45] DaemonFC There's no way as far as I can tell, to get the correct files for the XBOX 360 controller into the installation path if you install FlightGear system-wide. [13:45] DaemonFC Maybe if I reinstall it later into my user account. I'm the only user on this computer anyway. [13:46] DaemonFC I noticed Debian's file system layout is basically everything under /, like Ubuntu's used to be. [13:46] DaemonFC There's arguments for every which way you want to do file system partitioning. [13:46] DaemonFC And you'll run into problems and benefits any way you do it. [13:47] DaemonFC For a desktop, this method of partitioning is _probably_ okay, unless GRUB corrupts something, and Ext4 has been the default Linux file system for long enough that it probably won't. [13:50] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Eric Sandeen was one of the people at Fedora (Red Hat) who actually held back being able to install without a separate /boot on Ext2 or Ext3 when Ext4 was new. [13:51] DaemonFC He said they had just been burned by GRUB too many times in the past, especially when /boot was on XFS, because GRUB used its own file system code and in GRUB Legacy, that code wasn't always especially very good. [13:51] schestowitz ack in the day? [13:51] schestowitz ack in the days? [13:51] DaemonFC Now there's nobody at Fedora who cares if you lose data or not. [13:52] DaemonFC Whole thing on BtrFS Compress? Sure? Knock yourself out! Facebook says it's great! [13:52] DaemonFC ack in the days? [13:52] schestowitz (fisrt setence) [13:53] DaemonFC Yeah. Fedora was still not transitioned over to GRUB 2 at the time, and Sandeen was one of the people who wrote Ext4, and he didn't trust GRUB Legacy with it. [13:53] DaemonFC GRUB Legacy was a complete mess. Abandoned upstream for years and hundreds of distribution patches floating around to keep it working. [13:54] DaemonFC Distributions applied random patch jobs to it. It was terrible. [13:56] DaemonFC So, if there actually is a uEFI feature I think Linux should use, it's probably just appearing to be a Portable Executable to the firmware, which it does already anyway, and telling the firmware that it is a bootloader. [13:57] DaemonFC Essentially, just let it start itself up. That's a big win for avoiding boot delays and possible file system corruption, because obviously the Linux kernel using its own file system drivers is no more likely to corrupt itself than running the kernel under normal usage. [13:57] DaemonFC But GRUB is still using different file system code, which may have errors. [13:58] DaemonFC We've used all sorts of things to boot Linux in the past, like LILO. [13:59] DaemonFC In fact, I refused to even touch GRUB Legacy under Mandrive. ● Oct 03 [14:01] DaemonFC I always chose LILO instead, because I felt it was better designed, and the configuration was dead simple, and there was one guy maintaining it and he accepted patches, and it was better, I felt, than a dead project like GRUB "0.97" that distributions were essentially turning into Weekend at Bernies. [14:01] *inky has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [14:01] *inky (~inky@37.186.117.147) has joined #techrights [14:02] DaemonFC To be honest, there are some ways where GRUB 2 is a bigger disaster, in usability, than GRUB Legacy. [14:03] DaemonFC It's confusing to configure. It's very easy to accidentally make a mistake and render your system unbootable, and it's easier to use a GRUB Repair program in a live environment than to figure out what you actually did to it. [14:03] DaemonFC And I think, technically, we need to move on from GRUB. [14:05] DaemonFC I'm not so convinced that Ext4 needs to go anywhere after seeing what's been proposed or put out there to replace it. [14:06] DaemonFC Debian is super conservative and is still pushing Ext4, and they're probably right. [14:06] DaemonFC I always laugh when people tell me you need the file system to support snapshots or something, inside the driver or in the on disk format itself. [14:07] DaemonFC Obviously, these people never heard of xfsdump. [14:07] schestowitz-TR nightly backups and raid help [14:07] schestowitz-TR a very complex file systems, unless you really know how to 'operate' it, might not save you in D-R [14:08] schestowitz-TR zfs, btrfs, cow [14:08] DaemonFC Based on what I've seen, they're more likely to be causing the problem in the first place than to help you get out of it later. [14:08] schestowitz-TR If I want to roll back snapshots, I can instead deposit files in git [14:08] schestowitz-TR like dot files and things that change a lot [14:09] techrights-news On Nvidia Cards and GNU/Linux: Why You Should Make Sure Your Next PC Doesnt Have an Nvidia Card http://techrights.org/2021/10/03/nvidia-cards-linux/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/03/nvidia-cards-linux/ [14:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | On Nvidia Cards and GNU/Linux: Why You Should Make Sure Your Next PC Doesnt Have an Nvidia Card | Techrights [14:10] DaemonFC Oh, did I say back in the days? [14:10] DaemonFC Whoopsie. [14:11] DaemonFC No, I didn't. Heh. [14:14] DaemonFC "itis" ugh [14:14] *DaemonFC fixes [14:17] schestowitz-TR "back in the days" is OK, right? [14:18] *schestowitz-TR changes itis [14:19] schestowitz-TR later it will get corrected in gemini also [14:21] techrights-news #ibm "also failed to cloudify their software stack (and transform from perpetual to subscriptions) like Microsoft did. I suspect this comes the cultural resistance of the the internal compensation system." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1d6y5hFp#replies [14:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | IBM didn't lose the cloud... - post regarding IBM layoffs [14:22] techrights-news #microsoft and #ibm are both faking it. #cloudwashing things may fool investors, but not for long. If they're not technical, they fall for buzzwords and are gullible. http://techrights.org/2021/07/31/azure-stagnating/ [14:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Azure Stagnating | Techrights [14:23] techrights-news Sparky news 2021/09 https://sparkylinux.org/sparky-news-2021-09/ #sparkylinux #debian #gnu #linux [14:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sparkylinux.org | Sparky news 2021/09 SparkyLinux [14:24] techrights-news Some Pleasing Experiments In 8-Bit Video Cards | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2021/10/03/some-pleasing-experiments-in-8-bit-video-cards/ #hackaday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/10/03/#latest [14:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Some Pleasing Experiments In 8-Bit Video Cards | Hackaday [14:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [14:25] techrights-news "people reach out asking for help, say, for helping them with finding a job; it isnt about you making a recommendation/referral for them. It, instead, implies that you are indirectly being asked to find and arrange them a job." https://www.researchut.com/blog/Human_Society/ [14:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Human Society - RESEARCHUT [14:26] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, This Linux video driver mess has been sorted out since forever at this point, unless you use Nvidia. [14:27] DaemonFC So I was dismayed to see another article about setting up Nvidia drivers when that's not what we should be saying to people. [14:27] techrights-news #debian dev goes with #ibm toolsets https://www.netfort.gr.jp/~dancer/diary/daily/2021-Oct-3.html.en [14:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.netfort.gr.jp | Using podman for most of my local development environment. [14:27] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, I saw someone claiming they were using Debian on an M1 Mac. [14:28] techrights-news Phoronix this morning: Intel, Intel, Intel. 3 out of 3. #intel HATES #linux http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks [14:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Intel leaks - Techrights [14:28] DaemonFC I don't know how that's possible. The patches to get it up and running (and with the skeleton video driver that mostly leans on LLVMPipe) are not mainlined. [14:28] DaemonFC By the time anyone figures this out, Apple will be onto the M(arketing) 2 Chip, and it could be very different. [14:31] techrights-news Full Circle Weekly News #229 [14:31] schestowitz Initial #Linux #Kernel Patches Posted For The #Fairphone http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156271#comment-31247 [14:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Making the fair choice easier: Fairphone 4 is here | Tux Machines [14:35] techrights-news Spam disguised as news or, put another way, #patent #propaganda from #litigation profiteers, perpetuating the unjust myth that without #patents ( #monopolies ) you can never succeed https://www.calcalistech.com/ctech/articles/0,7340,L-3918569,00.html [14:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.calcalistech.com | The path to Wall Street is paved with patents for Biotech companies - CTech [14:37] techrights-news Some of the most ridiculous and the world's most outrageous #patents , asserting that humans 'invented' #life and #nature and now deserve patents or are entitled to a #monopoly over that https://www.patentdocs.org/2021/09/cvc-files-reply-to-toolgens-opposition-to-cvcs-responsive-motion-no-1.html [14:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patentdocs.org | Patent Docs: CVC Files Reply to ToolGen's Opposition to CVC's Responsive Motion No. 1 [14:39] techrights-news #litigation companies trying to profit from brexit as well https://www.mondaq.com/uk/trademark/1111642/brexit-brand-owners-and-their-trade-marks [14:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | Brexit, Brand Owners And Their Trade Marks - Intellectual Property - UK [14:41] techrights-news #epo and #cancer #patent #monopolies https://www.prnewswire.co.uk/news-releases/cantargia-s-extensive-patent-protection-for-il1rap-targeting-cancer-therapy-remains-in-force-after-concluded-opposition-878008930.html #patents that don't help http://techrights.org/2015/12/26/epo-and-cancer/ [14:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.prnewswire.co.uk | Cantargia's extensive patent protection for IL1RAP-targeting cancer therapy remains in force after concluded opposition [14:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Insensitivity at the EPOs Management Part II: Patent Office as a Cancer | Techrights [14:44] schestowitz DaemonFC: https://telecom.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/apple-to-offer-free-airpods-with-iphone-12-iphone-12-mini/86709326 [14:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-telecom.economictimes.indiatimes.com | iPhone 12 offers: Apple to offer free AirPods with iPhone 12, iPhone 12 mini, Telecom News, ET Telecom [14:44] schestowitz buy whale [14:44] schestowitz get cod [14:46] techrights-news #ETSI as #patent pool, tax, and trap https://www.juve-patent.com/news-and-stories/cases/uk-court-advises-apple-to-take-frand-licence-in-dispute-with-optis/ see http://techrights.org/2020/07/10/frand-sep-scam/ [14:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.juve-patent.com | UK court advises Apple to take FRAND licence in dispute with Optis - JUVE Patent [14:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | European FRAND (Related to SEP) Proponent and Famed Programmer Comes to Realise That Its Actually a Scam | Techrights [14:48] techrights-news Can't tell the difference between #copyright #law , which is a real thing, and this fiction they call "IP" (and even call their site after)? It's not property. https://www.managingip.com/article/b1ttpgr78j74wd/porn-and-ip-onlyfans-users-looking-to-enforce-their-rights [14:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | Porn and IP: OnlyFans users looking to enforce their rights | Managing Intellectual Property [14:50] DaemonFC schestowitz, https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/10/03/quick-thoughts-on-gnu-linux-on-the-m1-mac-and-open-hardware/ [14:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Quick thoughts on GNU/Linux on the M1 Mac and open hardware. BaronHK's Rants [14:50] schestowitz-TR thanks, will look in a bit.. [14:51] techrights-news Spam? Ad? Marketing? All the above? What happened to JUVE? It used to do actual journalism even 5 years ago. https://www.juve-patent.com/news-and-stories/people-and-business/wuesthoff-wuesthoff-team-launches-new-patent-firm-in-munich/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Juve [14:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.juve-patent.com | Wuesthoff & Wuesthoff team launches new patent firm in Munich - JUVE Patent [14:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Juve - Techrights [14:52] techrights-news "The EPO didnt react to a Kluwer IP Law request for comment on the issue of the ILOAT judgments and/or the SUEPOs publication about the meeting of 15 September." Criminals don't like to acknowledge their crimes; http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/10/01/iloat-cases-epo-repays-excessive-strike-deductions-tensions-remain/ see http://techrights.org/2021/09/23/epo-arrogance/ [14:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | ILOAT cases: EPO repays excessive strike deductions, tensions remain - Kluwer Patent Blog [14:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | As Expected, Minimal Pseudo Compliance From EPO Management, Adding Insult to Injury | Techrights [14:54] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, I like the approach. A SuperH instruction set that can be flashed into an FPGA. [14:56] techrights-news Strange that this is flagged "UK"; because of the #UK the #UPCA is already dead and obsolete https://www.mondaq.com/uk/patent/1116304/important-step-forward-for-upc-as-germany-ratifies-pap-protocol #unifiedpatentcourt #unitarypatent http://techrights.org/2021/08/19/captured-media-telling-lies/ [14:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | Important Step Forward For UPC As Germany Ratifies PAP-Protocol - Intellectual Property - UK [14:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Naming and Shaming Captured Publications That Knowingly and Intentionally Published Fake News About the EUs Unified Patent Court So Far This Week | Techrights [14:56] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:56] schestowitz-TR https://nitter.eu/Chilreando/status/1444654780069072898#m [14:56] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.eu | - (@Chilreando): "Linus Torvalds is Not in Charge Anymore, All Important Decisions Are Made by Monopolistic Corporations http://techrights.org/2021/10/03/monopolistic-linus/" | nitter [14:56] DaemonFC Ugh, more mistakes. [14:56] DaemonFC More edits. [14:57] DaemonFC Oh well. [14:57] DaemonFC I would very much like to have one of these j-core devices. [14:58] techrights-news There's already a new Universal Payment Channel (UPC) https://cointelegraph.com/news/visa-working-on-blockchain-interoperability-hub-for-crypto-payments [14:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cointelegraph.com | Visa working on blockchain interoperability hub for crypto payments [14:58] *CrystalMath (~coderain@7izpzmbvpdpuc.irc) has joined #techrights [14:58] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: I will get to it tonight [14:58] schestowitz-TR I want to finish patent feeds first [14:59] DaemonFC I think the SuperH would have everything important to run GNU/Linux with. [14:59] techrights-news #trademarks when you're not even original ^_^ https://www.mondaq.com/turkey/trademark/1116600/samsonite-v-sams-higher-board-issues-exemplary-decision-on-similarity-taking-into-account-well-known-status-of-earlier-mark [14:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | SAMSONITE v SAMS: Higher Board Issues Exemplary Decision On Similarity, Taking Into Account Well-Known Status Of Earlier Mark - Intellectual Property - Turkey [14:59] DaemonFC But it wouldn't be a tempting target for Microsoft to try to co-opt. [14:59] DaemonFC They took over the Raspberry Pi Foundation. ● Oct 03 [15:00] DaemonFC Now even if you do use their GNU/Linux distribution, it pushes Microsoft on you. [15:01] psydruid are they going to take over the entire ARM hardware industry? [15:01] techrights-news The wording here is 100% promotional nonsense. #Journalism died. https://www.juve-patent.com/news-and-stories/people-and-business/wuesthoff-wuesthoff-team-launches-new-patent-firm-in-munich/ JUVE = PR firm. http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Juve [15:01] psydruid and then RISC-V? [15:01] DaemonFC ARM is too contaminated and fragmented and patented to save. [15:01] psydruid after that also POWER? [15:01] psydruid this company is so megalomaniac that it wants to control everything [15:01] DaemonFC But once j-core got done implementing SuperH, they could start adding features it never had, and Linux could support those features. [15:02] schestowitz-TR psydruid: what's the stmosphere at intel re nvidia? [15:03] DaemonFC "Very shitty Windows port." incoming. [15:03] DaemonFC Oh look, here's this feeble contraption, too broken to use, but here, let's fawn over it! [15:03] DaemonFC Completely missing the point of open hardware and efficient design. [15:04] psydruid schestowitz-TR, I don't know, I only talked to this one guy from the Nouveau project who was employed at Intel at FOSDEM '18. But I bet they see Nvidia as a strong contender across the stack [15:04] techrights-news Charlatan and fraud promoted by a puppet of the #patent #litigation industry, #DennisCrouch (who is paid by those greedy fanatics) https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/10/prosecution-laches-actions.html see http://techrights.org/2018/10/06/tax-evasion-and-patents/ [15:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | Hyatt; Prosecution Laches; and more Civil Actions | Patently-O [15:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Is Hyatt an Inventor or a Tax Evader? | Techrights [15:04] MinceR POWER is already owned by a microsoft ally [15:05] DaemonFC Intel is going to have to get more aggressive about GPU and they're going to have to stop trying to sabotage GPGPU and design their own. [15:05] schestowitz semi-ally [15:05] *rianne (~rianne@ctqz25uirqr88.irc) has joined #techrights [15:05] DaemonFC But if they can't even make x86 cores that work right anymore, fat chance. [15:05] schestowitz they add cores [15:05] schestowitz more transistors [15:06] schestowitz more power consumption [15:06] psydruid https://www.hpcwire.com/2021/09/22/the-latest-mlperf-inference-results-nvidia-gpus-hold-sway-but-here-come-cpus-and-intel/ [15:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hpcwire.com | The Latest MLPerf Inference Results: Nvidia GPUs Hold Sway but Here Come CPUs and Intel [15:06] schestowitz smaller and finer fab process [15:06] schestowitz but they need to get back to basics [15:06] psydruid Intel as always will try to incorporate functionality into the processor [15:06] *liberty_box (~liberty@ctqz25uirqr88.irc) has joined #techrights [15:06] psydruid and now they have a GPU too [15:07] DaemonFC https://www.bunsenlabs.org/ [15:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bunsenlabs.org | BunsenLabs Linux [15:07] schestowitz with a back door [15:07] DaemonFC schestowitz, I might download this and try it on my older laptop. [15:07] schestowitz GPU with a coprocessor, sort of [15:07] psydruid so it's not clear who offers the best performance for which task [15:07] schestowitz whoever sends more gifts to michael [15:07] schestowitz that can change each month [15:07] schestowitz as the pile of "trial" units grows higher [15:08] psydruid and then you also have things like Esperanto's chip [15:08] psydruid https://www.hpcwire.com/2021/08/27/esperanto-silicon-in-hand-champions-the-efficiency-of-its-1092-core-risc-v-chip/ [15:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hpcwire.com | Esperanto, Silicon in Hand, Champions the Efficiency of Its 1,092-Core RISC-V Chip [15:08] schestowitz I need to see a photos [15:08] schestowitz smaller than I thought [15:09] psydruid it's becoming harder to figure out because there is more innovation when Intel, AMD and Nvidia can't hold everyone hostage [15:09] schestowitz "Operating with existing datacenters meant adhering to a set of requirements. Perhaps most importantly, the PCIe slots have a limited power budget around 75 to 120 watts." [15:09] schestowitz Sounds like one CPU-GPU of Intel... or two [15:09] psydruid yes [15:10] schestowitz people would pass out if they saw it 20 years ago [15:10] schestowitz "can it run MSIE??" [15:10] psydruid and now that Vista isn't as important as it used to be you have a lot more choices and competition [15:11] psydruid I didn't use MSIE even at that time, but always installed Phoenix/Firebird/Firefox as soon as possible [15:11] psydruid for everyone while migrating to GNU/Linux myself [15:13] DaemonFC schestowitz, This laptop is overkill for both GNOME and GNU/Linux in general. [15:13] techrights-news It's NOT about invention, it's about "hiring good lawyers" (like the ones who fund the poster of this for marketing/lobbying) https://nitter.eu/patentlyo/status/1443676639376912387 [15:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.eu | Dennis Crouch (@patentlyo): ""Applicants who really want a patent that will stand up in court know how to get one. That process has little to do with USPTO examination, and is instead require focusing on the actual invention, hiring good lawyers, & getting a competent prior art search before filing." | nitter [15:13] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: I know [15:13] DaemonFC My last one can still handle the GNOME version of Debian 11 fine for the most part. [15:13] schestowitz-TR 4 cores here I may only need for video encoding [15:13] schestowitz-TR because that's very CPU-intensive a task [15:14] schestowitz-TR That's why Windows is better [15:14] schestowitz-TR it's better for Intel [15:14] schestowitz-TR it helps increase sales [15:14] schestowitz-TR by turnign perfectly fine PCs into disposables [15:14] schestowitz-TR for me, not a bad deal [15:14] schestowitz-TR I get laptops cheaply, second hand... [15:15] psydruid the way I use my hardware is that I generally use low-power machines unless I need to do a CPU-intensive task on a more powerful and power-hungry one [15:15] schestowitz-TR for the price of one 'potent' WIndows laptop I can get 3 or 4 [15:15] psydruid same [15:15] schestowitz-TR laptops do CPU scaling well [15:15] schestowitz-TR same with fan rotation [15:15] schestowitz-TR so you use as much as is needed sometimes [15:15] psydruid and the nice thing is that 'potent' second-hand Windows laptops are becoming more 'potent' over time [15:16] schestowitz-TR the clown PR bunnies call this "elestic" [15:16] schestowitz-TR *elastic [15:16] schestowitz-TR when FSF ran the bad Vista campaign they said it would likely mean lots of hardware for gnu/linux geeks [15:16] schestowitz-TR cheaply [15:16] psydruid now you can get 4-core machines for under 250, desktops sometimes even for under 100 [15:16] schestowitz-TR but maybe not the FSF said that [15:16] schestowitz-TR the XP era was not as wasteful [15:17] schestowitz-TR all the Vista Service Packs have been terrible and that make it normal to buy PCs with 4 or more cores and over 8GB or RAM [15:17] schestowitz-TR some have 32GN [15:17] schestowitz-TR on a laptop [15:17] schestowitz-TR go figure how to use that up! [15:19] techrights-news Steppers And ESP32 Make This Retro-Modern Flip-Clock Tick | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2021/10/02/steppers-and-esp32-make-this-retro-modern-flip-clock-tick/ #hackaday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/10/03/#latest [15:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Steppers And ESP32 Make This Retro-Modern Flip-Clock Tick | Hackaday [15:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [15:21] techrights-news "Revealing the inner workings of an unusual component is fascinating, and the lapping technique used is definitely worth a look. Its something weve seen before, for example in reducing CPU thickness for increased performance." https://hackaday.com/2021/10/03/what-goes-into-a-high-voltage-diode/ [15:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-What Goes Into A High Voltage Diode? | Hackaday [15:24] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, I might try zswap. [15:24] DaemonFC I'm skeptical of running without an actual SWAP partition and don't actually want to fuck with my partitioning right now. [15:24] DaemonFC But even Windows has something like zswap where it's sort of like zram, but it uses a swap file too. [15:25] techrights-news Happy GNU day. https://theglobalherald.com/entertainment/young-wildebeest-gnu-and-mother-leap-from-cliff-edge-bbc/ last Monday GNU project turned 38. [15:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theglobalherald.com | Young wildebeest Gnu and mother leap from cliff edge BBC - The Global Herald [15:25] DaemonFC Its goal isn't to avoid swapping to disk entirely under all situations, but rather to delay it by moving some stuff into a compressed memory area to hopefully delay having to use swap space. [15:28] DaemonFC https://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/enable-zswap-on-linux/ [15:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.addictivetips.com | How to enable Zswap on Linux for better performance [15:28] DaemonFC This sounds easy. [15:31] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:34] techrights-news #ibm #mainframe hype and hot air; "The mainframe slowdown really is not that important. Everybody whose opinion matters understands the cyclical nature of that business, and factors it into their projections." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1d7cgO15#replies [15:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Q3 Earnings Predictions - post regarding IBM layoffs [15:37] techrights-news #layoffs #bigblue "How IBM got there is more of the concern -2.01 billion loss in 2020 and - 887 million pro forma loss in 2021. (NOTE IBM took a 800 million restructuring charge in 2020) [...] a 17% shrink rate on profit" #ibm #Kyndryl https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1d4rvOH3#replies [15:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | IBM Spills Details on Kyndryl Spinoff. What You Need to Know. - post regarding IBM layoffs [15:37] techrights-news #layoffs #bigblue #ibm #Kyndryl "The question is have we reached the bottom yet It does not appear so as RAs are quasi accounting for the revenue shrink rate. Profits are slowly bleeding away. IBM will reach the bottom, but its going to hurt manpower wise" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1d4rvOH3#replies [15:39] techrights-news Getting a job at #redhat or #ibm right now is like getting a job at #freenode back in May. #layoffs #bigblue #Kyndryl [15:39] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@teju5f8qedbds.irc) has joined #techrights [15:39] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: ^^ [15:40] DaemonFC The Nokia Herp Derp I Eat Paste T-Mobile Router shat itself again. [15:40] XRevan86 schestowitz: "Money Doesn't Smell" [15:41] XRevan86 "Money Does Not Stink" rather. [15:42] techrights-news #brazil has turned into #venezuela under #bolsonaro and is now eating carcasses. Under #borisnaro we have food and petrol shortages. [15:45] DaemonFC Okay, zswap is running, now to tinker with it. [15:45] DaemonFC zstd maybe? [15:46] *techrights_guest|83 (~5c14dbc0@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [15:46] XRevan86 > the Old Germanic pagan word bltsian, which meant "to sacrifice, consecrate by shedding blood". It was adapted by Old English scribes and christened to become the word bless. [15:46] XRevan86 Blessings :) [15:47] techrights-news Seems to me like #intel just wants these things inside people's body for some 'intel' https://www.anandtech.com/show/16960/intel-loihi-2-intel-4nm-4 [15:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.anandtech.com | Intel Rolls Out New Loihi 2 Neuromorphic Chip: Built on Early Intel 4 Process [15:48] *techrights_guest|83 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [15:53] psydruid God bless you to the minotaur! [15:53] DaemonFC lz4 looks like it may be ideal for this. [15:53] DaemonFC Based on benchmarking. [15:54] DaemonFC It won't get as good of a compression ratio, but zstd is slower, much slower on the decompress side of things particularly. [15:54] techrights-news "His sudden death this week at age 66 was greeted with a collective moan. A giant had passed, it was said over-and-over again. The Tyrants Foe, as the Advocates masthead read, The Peoples Friend." https://www.saltwire.com/atlantic-canada/news/john-demont-farewell-to-robert-devet-the-tyrants-foe-peoples-friend-100641204/ [15:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-JOHN DeMONT: Farewell to Robert DeVet, the tyrant's foe, people's friend | SaltWire [15:58] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:59] techrights-news Here in the #uk #gentoo is a large company based around #sunderland and not just a #gnu #linux distro or animal [15:59] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Oct 03 [16:00] techrights-news Yes, #british #tabloid are very stupid... like their readers https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/stupid-cannabis-grower-destroys-home-25096333 [16:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailystar.co.uk | 'Stupid' cannabis grower destroys home lighting cigarette while stoned after using gas - Daily Star [16:01] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [16:01] techrights-news "The 25-year-old, who suffered extensive burns to his arms, was using butane a highly flammable gas to extract oil from the plants." https://metro.co.uk/2021/09/28/washington-stoned-cannabis-grower-destroyed-home-by-lighting-cigarette-15331591/ [16:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-metro.co.uk | Washington: Stoned cannabis grower destroyed home by lighting cigarette | Metro News [16:01] *inky_ (~inky@5.77.144.165) has joined #techrights [16:01] techrights-news "The other upstairs rooms were 50 percent destroyed by fire and were left 100 per cent smoke damaged." https://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/crime/see-ps10k-fire-damage-caused-by-stupid-cannabis-grower-who-lit-cigarette-after-using-gas-3399820 [16:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.sunderlandecho.com | See 10k fire damage caused by 'stupid' cannabis grower who lit cigarette after using gas | Sunderland Echo [16:02] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@ctqz25uirqr88.irc) has joined #techrights [16:02] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 24.20 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 9.83 swarm size (avg): 258.12 [16:02] *rianne (~rianne@ctqz25uirqr88.irc) has joined #techrights [16:02] *liberty_box (~liberty@ctqz25uirqr88.irc) has joined #techrights [16:03] techrights-news #ZDNet is still a #microsoft SPAM factory. It's paid to do this (it's trying to ENCHANT those whom Microsoft is ATTACKING). #boycottZDNet to keep sane. http://techrights.org/wiki/ZDNet [16:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | ZDNet - Techrights [16:04] MinceR (cat) (audio:important) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2021/09/24/2aebbe680946eedb.mp4 [16:05] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [16:05] techrights-news The move to #boycottZDNet is working, I think. I see their writers moving to other sites (or just vanishing). In the past 12 days they had just TWO stories marked "LINUX". It used to be about 2 PER DAY. Recent: http://techrights.org/2021/09/24/zdnet-fail/ [16:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | ZDNet Has Failed | Techrights [16:10] techrights-news #microsoft ruined #skype ... it bought a near-monopoly and turned that into 100% #malware without #p2p capabilities. Now it hates and discriminates against everyone (no wonder market share PLUNGED) https://www.ghacks.net/2021/09/28/skype-teases-next-version-promises-all-browser-support-forgets-firefox-icon/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Skype_is_Spy_Campaign [16:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ghacks.net | Skype teases "next version", promises all browser support, forgets Firefox icon - gHacks Tech News [16:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Skype is Spy Campaign - Techrights [16:11] techrights-news #Microsoft is screwing over Mozilla while #Mozilla experiments handing over #Firefox users to Microsoft through Bing; self-harm and sabotage of Mozilla is an understatement. [16:13] techrights-news DO NOT use #skype ... not just because it is #ProprietarySoftware but it's all centralised for #spying now http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Skype_is_Spy_Campaign [16:14] techrights-news Baker will kill #mozilla within 5 years and I worry about what it'll mean to #thunderbird and #firefox http://techrights.org/2021/09/26/openmandriva-and-mozilla-self-harm/ [16:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Regrettable Acts of Self-Harm: OpenMandriva and Mozilla Being Outsourced to Microsoft Proprietary Software and Monopoly | Techrights [16:15] techrights-news After Baker destroys #mozilla and enters full-time #politics I hope that she chooses #gop because we want GOP to run out of money and implode. #firefox #gop #selfharm [16:18] techrights-news Hey, let's grant patents to rodents and insects too; unlike those bots, they do some innovative things and may want to sue fellow rodents and insects to protect their monopolies... I mean, innovations https://hothardware.com/news/artificial-intelligence-cannot-be-awarded-patent-under-uk-law [16:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-UK Court Rules That AI Cant Be An Inventor Of A Patent, Do You Agree? | HotHardware [16:24] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@4zvkby47rhmyu.irc) has joined #techrights [16:25] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: soon 4k [16:25] schestowitz-TR that uefi post [16:25] DaemonFC Okay, I have Zswap working on Debian. [16:26] DaemonFC z3fold wasn't loaded by default, so I had to fix that because it kept falling back to zbud. [16:28] techrights-news #ProprietarySoftware #vmware https://www.itnews.com.au/news/vmware-vcenter-under-widespread-attack-570541 asssume breach: http://techrights.org/2021/10/01/microsoft-azure-is-a-security-breach/ [16:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itnews.com.au | VMware vCenter under widespread attack - Security - iTnews [16:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | With Microsoft, Security Breaches Are Presumed | Techrights [16:28] DaemonFC It seems lz4 with z3fold makes the most sense because z3fold can hold more compressed pages than zbud can, while lz4 has only very slightly worse compression ratios than lzo (default on Debian for god only knows what reason), but MUCH higher throughput in compressing and decompressng. [16:28] DaemonFC zstd appears to be too slow, even though it can compress at much higher ratios than lz4. [16:30] DaemonFC By stuffing this in between my main physical memory pool and my SWAP partition, most of the SWAP activity can be avoided entirely, thus avoiding SSD write activity unless there's simply no other choice. [16:30] techrights-news #github "Actions" = #microsoft bribes (CPU load) to lure developers into TRAPS. #azure 'credits' = the same. Don't walk into the kingdom of convicted criminals (and BTW, GitHub LOSES money; Azure has LAYOFFS) http://techrights.org/2021/03/17/epoleaks-report-march-2021-part-12/ [16:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO and Microsoft Collude to Break the Law Part XII: Foreign Corrupt Practices, Bid Rigging and Slush Funds | Techrights [16:31] DaemonFC The Zswap maximum pool size isn't allocated automatically. It grows and shrinks as necessary. [16:31] DaemonFC So it's not an either you have this or you have physical memory deal. [16:31] schestowitz-TR I've long wondered... [16:31] schestowitz-TR except on old machine or very bizarre workloads [16:31] schestowitz-TR who needs this? [16:31] DaemonFC It seems there's very little downside in using this on a modern system. [16:32] schestowitz-TR maybe people who do simulation on vast databases? [16:32] DaemonFC If it comes into play at all, my CPU won't even notice. [16:32] schestowitz-TR with code NOT designed EXPLICITLY to dump to local disk and instead demand more and MOAR RAM? [16:33] *Despatche (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #techrights [16:33] DaemonFC Windows Task Manager shows that Microsoft has implemented something similar on Windows, only it appears they've done a very stupid thing with it. [16:33] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: maybe except it can take more energy [16:33] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: that's because Microsoft HAS an issue with RAM [16:33] schestowitz-TR it's like "Defender [16:33] schestowitz-TR "Pretender [16:33] DaemonFC It's in play even when there's literally TONS of available physical memory. [16:33] schestowitz-TR compensating for shit design [16:34] DaemonFC Yeah, so it's not really a feature on Windows. It's always causing weird CPU spikes even when you're not low on memory, and not even close to low. [16:34] schestowitz-TR waste of battery [16:34] schestowitz-TR see.. [16:35] schestowitz-TR I don't need to compress everything [16:35] schestowitz-TR in gnu/linux usually only old logs get compressed [16:35] DaemonFC Well, it's Windows so..... [16:35] DaemonFC What doesn't guzzle memory and keep spiking the CPU? [16:35] schestowitz-TR because you are less likely to be in need of accessing them, unlike swap pages [16:36] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, The way I set it up in Debian, it only comes into play in oh shit cases to delay swapping. If it comes up at all, I've set it to use the most efficient balance of CPU resources to compression ratio. [16:37] techrights-news WOW WOW WOW! All the #microsoft #propaganda sites are totally #GOOGLEBOMBING "OPEN SOURCE" to push people to PROPRIETARY #azure -- basically such an epic commercial failure that Microsoft resorts to giving 'freebies' now. http://techrights.org/2021/07/31/azure-stagnating/ [16:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Azure Stagnating | Techrights [16:37] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Fedora has set up ZRAM with no SWAP at all. [16:37] DaemonFC This is terribly misguided. [16:38] DaemonFC The system can run out of RAM and crash, and it'll burn up the CPU with all of the compress/decompress chatter all the way there. [16:39] DaemonFC Then if you put any SWAP under it, you can end up with LRU inversion, where it can accidentally put something it's going to need very soon on the SWAP partition and leave the stuff it won't need for a while in the ZRAM device. [16:39] techrights-news #microsoft #azure has been around for OVER A DECADE. I've worked for my current employer for OVER A DECADE. NEVER did we have ANY client that used AZURE ANYWHERE. Lots of the media hype is paid-for fludd and no wonder Azure has layoffs and DC shutdowns (!!). Microsoft defrauds people who throw money at a pit. http://techrights.org/2020/02/03/azure-lies/ [16:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Azure (or Cloud) Results Are Most Likely an Elaborate Fraud | Techrights [16:40] DaemonFC Zswap was written, obviously, with the certainty that the user will use SWAP with it. [16:40] DaemonFC ZRAM figures you won't. [16:41] techrights-news #GitHub is NOT making money. It's a COMMERCIAL failure, but its purpose it to help Microsoft ATTACK #freesw and route/misdirect/herd developers to #ProprietarySoftware like #Azure and VS 'Code' (malware) http://techrights.org/2020/04/08/githug/ [16:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | GitHug A Guest Article by Thomas Grzybowski | Techrights [16:42] techrights-news #microsoft did not buy #github to help but to attack. It was all along a HOSTILE move: http://techrights.org/2020/06/15/confessions-of-scott-guthrie/ [16:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Story About Microsofts Plan for GitHub Says a Lot About the Motivations and the Lies Told to Us for Over Half a Decade | Techrights [16:45] techrights-news When you read 'stories' (ads/PR) about a company or companies that #microsoft says use #azure assume they're some of the few. #aws controls the lion's share of the market and Microsoft refuses to even reveal numbers as it would tank its shares. Shareholders are being defrauded. http://techrights.org/2021/07/31/azure-stagnating/ [16:48] techrights-news #microsoft #azure 2010: we're new, give us time. 2015: OK, nobody uses #windows and Microsoft for serious server workloads anymore... so let's repeat the lie "Microsoft loves Linux". 2020: Azure layoffs (after some DC shutdowns). 2021: hey, devs, want Azure 'credits' to help us fake growth? COME ON, WE ARE DESPERATE!!! Please! [16:50] techrights-news Trusting #Microsoft With #Security is a Clown Show http://techrights.org/2021/09/16/azure-clown-show/ #Techrights #Azure | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/09/16/azure-clown-show/ [16:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Trusting Microsoft With Security is a Clown Show | Techrights [16:50] techrights-news #Microsoft #Azure and Back/Bug Doors in GNU/Linux: Fool Me Once (Shame on You) / Fool Me Twice (Shame on Me) http://techrights.org/2021/09/16/microsoft-azure-bug-doors/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/09/16/microsoft-azure-bug-doors/ [16:50] MinceR https://i.redd.it/obn6tf3m88r71.jpg [16:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Azure and Back/Bug Doors in GNU/Linux: Fool Me Once (Shame on You) / Fool Me Twice (Shame on Me) | Techrights [16:51] techrights-news [Meme] #Azure #Security http://techrights.org/2021/09/30/azure-security/ #Techrights #Microsoft | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/09/30/azure-security/ [16:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Azure Security | Techrights [16:52] techrights-news #Microsoft #Whistleblower and Clients Warned, More Than 2 Years Ago in Fact, About the Current #Azure Mess (But Microsoft Ignored Those Warnings, Buried Facts) http://techrights.org/2021/09/30/azure-brute-force/ #Techrights | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/09/30/azure-brute-force/ [16:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Whistleblower and Clients Warned, More Than 2 Years Ago in Fact, About the Current Azure Mess (But Microsoft Ignored Those Warnings, Buried Facts) | Techrights [16:54] techrights-news You know #azure is in SERIOUS trouble when all the #microsoft propaganda sites (WinBuzzer, MSPoweruser, ZDNet etc.) are almost BEGGING devs to try out Azure and even offer them fake money to try it. Because almost nobody touches it, even prior to recent catastrophes. Anything to FAKE growth. Fake it till you make it."If you cant make it good, at least make it look good." -- #BillGates [16:54] DaemonFC "If you run out of memory and there is no SWAP available, the OOM-KILLER fires up and starts KILLING (hence the name) things that it thinks will help keep the system up. On a desktop, this could be literally anything, although it's always more likely to be something that's using a ton of memory. On a server, there's a joke that the OOM-KILLER always goes after Apache." [16:56] techrights-news #TechRadar : "Microsofts flirtation with the open source community continues" - yes, like a snake "flirts" with mice. Stay away from #azure .. it's part of the ANTI-Open Source strategy. Notice ALL those things are #ProprietarySoftware (Azure, GitHub, Visual Studio, Copilot) http://techrights.org/2020/04/08/githug/ [16:58] techrights-news #micosoft #cult has this thing called "Visual Studio Magazine". Yes, they call a so-called 'magazine' after some piece of #ProprietarySoftware ... is there also a "Zune Magazine"? How about "Esptein magazine" ("well, he's dead")...? ● Oct 03 [17:00] techrights-news But #Google is the company that works for the #NSA and has already put 'weakened' (bad) e#ncryption inside the #Linux #kernel until the backlash and pushback removed this 'back door' https://siliconangle.com/2021/10/01/google-backed-sos-program-provides-financial-incentive-open-source-software-security-improvements/ [17:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Google-backed program will pay developers for open-source software security improvements - SiliconANGLE [17:00] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:03] techrights-news Hardly surprising that longtime #propaganda partners of #EPO thugs are pushing this misleading nonsense. #Journalism is dead. It's #marketing and #lobbying now. https://sciencebusiness.net/news/ratification-germany-and-slovenia-revives-prospects-eu-unitary-patent the headline is also false; they did NOT ratify http://techrights.org/2021/09/29/slovenia-germany-austria-upc/ [17:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sciencebusiness.net | Ratification by Germany and Slovenia revives prospects for EU unitary patent | Science|Business [17:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Slovenia and Germany (or Austria) Are Not Called United Kingdom | Techrights [17:05] techrights-news The body repeats the lie and the summary contains loaded statements. #Journalism is dead the moment people publish falsehoods to appease corrupt sponsors. https://sciencebusiness.net/news/ratification-germany-and-slovenia-revives-prospects-eu-unitary-patent see http://techrights.org/2017/07/15/science-business-upc-piece/ [17:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Science|Business Quotes Michel Barnier, Then Speculates Battistellis Way to Promote Erroneous Perception of UPC Inevitability | Techrights [17:07] techrights-news #trademarks in #turkey ... who needs #journalism when litigation profiteers tell you what suits their financial agenda? https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=2260876e-5141-4892-a58b-c3f63dc6d2c2 [17:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Turkish Patent and Trademark Office Published an Updated Trademark Examination Guideline - Lexology [17:09] techrights-news #IAM is still nothing but a shameless megaphone of the #patent #litigation 'industry' ("Mark Marf and Sarah Taylor of Pinsent Masons explain") https://www.iam-media.com/law-policy/uk-ai-supreme-court-legislation see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/IAM [17:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.iam-media.com | Supreme Court appeal and legislation possible after latest UK DABUS patent decision | IAM [17:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IAM - Techrights [17:12] techrights-news "Numbers will be manipulated. #IBM is a sinking company." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1d7cgO15 [17:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Q3 Earnings Predictions - post regarding IBM layoffs [17:13] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:13] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:17] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 25.71 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 29.21 swarm size (avg): 258.13 [17:20] *rianne (~rianne@ctqz25uirqr88.irc) has joined #techrights [17:20] *liberty_box (~liberty@ctqz25uirqr88.irc) has joined #techrights [17:23] *inky_ has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [17:27] techrights-news Links 3/10/2021: Xubuntu Development Update and Patent News Catch-up http://techrights.org/2021/10/03/xubuntu-development-update/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/03/xubuntu-development-update/ [17:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 3/10/2021: Xubuntu Development Update and Patent News Catch-up | Techrights [17:28] techrights-news #ProprietarySoftware and #Security Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156387 #TuxMachines [17:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proprietary Software and Security Leftovers | Tux Machines [17:29] techrights-news Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156388 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines [17:29] techrights-news #Intel Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156389 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Intel Leftovers | Tux Machines [17:35] schestowitz OMG Microsoft !!! https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2021/10/microsoft-office-2021-includes-better-support-for-opendocument-files [17:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | Microsoft Office 2021 Includes Better Support for LibreOffice Files - OMG! Ubuntu! [17:36] schestowitz Yay! Linux WON!! [17:36] schestowitz OMG, Joey [17:38] MinceR lol [17:39] *inky_ (~inky@141.136.88.44) has joined #techrights [17:39] MinceR OMG!!! We made it suck a little less!!! HURRY BUY TWO RIGHT NOW!!! [17:48] MinceR https://hugelolcdn.com/i/776502.jpg ● Oct 03 [18:01] XRevan86 MinceR: I wonder what's his opinion on Bacha bazi. [18:01] XRevan86 False beard to every boy! [18:01] XRevan86 That should solve the problem. [18:02] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@bfzmfhapej628.irc) has joined #techrights [18:05] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [18:12] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@6ccjhrtnrpe62.irc) has joined #techrights [18:13] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:13] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:18] *rianne (~rianne@ctqz25uirqr88.irc) has joined #techrights [18:20] *liberty_box (~liberty@ctqz25uirqr88.irc) has joined #techrights [18:29] MinceR lol [18:40] *inky_ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [18:40] DaemonFC "FWIW, Google went with ZRam at 100% on Chromebooks because theyre a cheap laptop that almost never have more than 2-4GB, and theres really nowhere to put SWAP anyway because theres hardly any storage at all, and the write amplification would definitely kill the storage if you did because its cheap. But, youre probably not using such a system. Right? [18:40] DaemonFC Also, if you ever wondered why cheap Chromebooks dont crash when they run out of memory, its because your Chrome browser tabs start dying instead. (Hes dead, Jim!) You grab his tricorder and Ill get his wallet. [18:40] DaemonFC (I did have that on a button once when I was a child.)" [18:41] MinceR https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/jiggler [18:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Could not resolve host: www.smbc-comics.com; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/jiggler ) [18:42] *inky_ (~inky@141.136.88.44) has joined #techrights [18:49] *inky_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection) ● Oct 03 [19:15] schestowitz DaemonFC: 2GB of RAM for a Web browser [19:15] DaemonFC If you only have that much, you get a lot of dead tabs [19:15] schestowitz more would be "demanding" from a 'chrome' 'book' [19:16] schestowitz you need more for the sites you visit [19:16] schestowitz so they can mine cryptocoin [19:17] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 23.76 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 41.43 swarm size (avg): 258.15 [19:17] activelow similar problem, with some arm64 sbc; 1GiB RAM and flash memory which i do not use for swapfs; the memory eater being g++ [19:18] MinceR https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/trolley-6 [19:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Trolley [19:18] activelow didn't expect this, because ordinary gcc c compiler can easily spawn four compilation processes with less 512MiB RAM, g++ is extreme in comparison [19:25] activelow with g++ 2 processes eat 1GiB of RAM and hit zram swapping [19:29] activelow and, well, i took a look at compression algorithms too [19:35] activelow lzo is fast. however chaotic, the variants and makefiles of it, i wouldn't want to compress anything with it and rely on a suitable decompressor could be identified and build from source a decade later [19:38] DaemonFC https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/10/03/setting-up-zswap-in-debian-11-gnu-linux/ [19:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Setting up Zswap in Debian 11 GNU/Linux. BaronHK's Rants [19:38] DaemonFC Writing examples for Fedora is easier. [19:38] DaemonFC They have Grubby. [19:42] activelow for zswap, lz4 is fast, and 50% compression ratio [19:42] DaemonFC That's why I picked it. [19:43] DaemonFC Debian defaults to lzo for some reason. Same ratio, pretty much, but slower. [19:44] DaemonFC It also falls back to zbud allocator instead of z3fold. [19:44] activelow the reason i digged into this was the idea to implement some scrambling, because a data stream which is compressed and scrambled has some interesting cryptographic properties [19:44] DaemonFC So you have to put z3fold in initramfs modules. [19:45] activelow i chose lz4, patched a tiny linear-feedback-shift-register into it, and made kernel/squashfstools/etc... to support it [19:45] activelow the header formats and variants with lz4 are confusing too [19:46] activelow that's why, i didn't continue integrating this with u-boot loader, because debugging and testing weren't trivial, and u-boot required some specific header-format to handle compression [19:47] activelow my idea of "secure boot"... which i already have, without kernel image compression currently [19:47] DaemonFC I might tweak this again a bit. [19:48] activelow if i integrated this compression into u-boot, then breaking my "secure boot" would require jtag debugging [19:50] activelow and, this extension is only a few lines of code, most of it is patching makefiles and kernel integration [19:52] *inky_ (~inky@46.36.119.235) has joined #techrights [19:53] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [19:53] *inky_ has quit (Client Quit) [19:54] *inky_ (~inky@46.36.119.235) has joined #techrights ● Oct 03 [20:04] activelow i had noticed, interesting, with IPSec some code path exist for compression there too; and an algorithm of it being "patented" (for no obvious reason imo) [20:04] MinceR (cat) (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lREJaI0k7-w [20:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-That hit the spot!!! - YouTube [20:06] activelow patched my custom compression into IPSec, wasn't easy either, because makefiles; and this required another tweak to always enforce compression of IPSec payload [20:07] *inky_ has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [20:07] activelow interesting aspect with this, given some compression with IPSec is "patented" and henceforth excluded, without access to the compressor/decompressor IPSec would be extremely difficult to break [20:08] activelow even when all authentication and encryption was deactivated, enforcing compression only [20:11] activelow compression had always been subject to patent claims, not anymore with most [20:12] schestowitz https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-5.16-USB-Audio-LL [20:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux 5.16 Aims For Better USB Low-Latency Audio Playback - Phoronix [20:12] schestowitz USB [20:12] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:12] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:13] activelow the benefit of compression+LFSR is this, in practice this doesn't require any block mode of operation, because of the compression a known-plaintext attack is practically almost impossible, even with the most trivial LFSR and without any block-mode trickery [20:15] schestowitz LOl!! How to put POSITIVE spin on something bad: "slightly higher than usual" https://www.sharecast.com/news/aim-bulletin/iomart-warns-on-profits-amid-higher-than-usual-customer-churn--8148902.html [20:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Iomart warns on profits amid 'higher than usual' customer churn - Sharecast.com [20:16] activelow anyway, i fully dropped IPSec from my kernel, because of other reasons and wireguard is sufficient (although i preferred compression was implemented with it similar to IPSec) [20:18] *rianne (~rianne@ctqz25uirqr88.irc) has joined #techrights [20:18] activelow LZ4+LFSR is very fast; sadly linux kernel removed compression support from filesystems (e2comp)... wonder why [20:19] *liberty_box (~liberty@ctqz25uirqr88.irc) has joined #techrights [20:30] schestowitz-TR https://nitter.eu/TranAssoc/status/1444745104938389504#m [20:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.eu | Tran & Associates (@TranAssoc): "Links 3/10/2021: Xubuntu Development Update and Patent News Catch-up http://techrights.org/2021/10/03/xubuntu-development-update/ #techrights" | nitter [20:34] schestowitz https://nitter.eu/governa/status/1444502863548493824 [20:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.eu | u (@governa): "#Microsoft Secure Boot and #Intel VMD Pointless on #Linux , #Lenovos Documentation Recommends That You Turn Them Off http://lxer.com/module/newswire/ext_link.php?rid=305982" | nitter [20:38] *inky_ (~inky@46.36.119.235) has joined #techrights [20:43] schestowitz microsoft spamming https://www.inverse.com/gaming/halo-infinite-features-store-tags-in-xbox-accessibility-showcase [20:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.inverse.com | Halo Infinite features and store tags revealed in Xbox Accessibility Showcase [20:54] MinceR https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/ring [20:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Ring [20:58] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Oct 03 [21:03] schestowitz OK, lots of patent spam in the 'news' [21:03] schestowitz law firms spraying 'the news' with misinformation [21:03] schestowitz will post examples when I finish work.. /: [21:04] schestowitz it's not illegal to lie [21:04] schestowitz so they take advantage of it [21:04] activelow fraud is illegal [21:04] activelow subject to penal code [21:05] schestowitz yes [21:05] schestowitz but they can pretend to be misinformed [21:06] schestowitz fraud and lies are not the same [21:06] schestowitz they can also be sued by clients [21:06] schestowitz but not as a criminal matter [21:06] schestowitz I'm a bit exhausted fighting lies [21:06] schestowitz esp. team UPC ones [21:06] schestowitz zoobab also [21:06] schestowitz we have been doing this for ages [21:06] schestowitz they keep lying [21:07] schestowitz and the need to correct the liars arises [21:07] schestowitz they get paid to lie [21:07] schestowitz we don't [21:07] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@4fm626fzweh3a.irc) has joined #techrights [21:08] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: wb [21:08] DaemonFC Thanks [21:08] schestowitz-TR I was gonna tell you something [21:08] schestowitz-TR when you were offline, but I forgot what it was (not important anyway) [21:09] schestowitz-TR BTW, your lenovo piece 4k+ views [21:09] DaemonFC Ah. I'm still tricking my Debian out. [21:09] schestowitz-TR so I hope lenovo is noticing [21:09] DaemonFC I'm pretty certain that I got my SWAP and memory situation sorted out the way Fedora should have done it. [21:10] DaemonFC The inmates are running the asylum there lately. [21:14] DaemonFC Lots of typos in that last one. [21:14] DaemonFC Still fixing. [21:18] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, I've been spelunking YouTube videos about ancient GNU/Linux distributions. [21:18] DaemonFC Some of them, it's like, it makes you really appreciate how easy everythig is now. [21:19] activelow easy? for whom? users? developers? corporations? [21:20] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, I set my configuration for ZSwap and the instructions, assuming that people probably have soem more RAM than they did several years ago when the defaults went in. [21:20] DaemonFC I think 25% is a reasonable assumption for max pool size now. [21:34] schestowitz noreply@tieredaccess.com wrote on 29/09/2021 23:27: [21:34] schestowitz > Fuck you and fuck your website [21:35] schestowitz we win :-) [21:40] MinceR :) [21:41] schestowitz-TR I didn't even need to go to a FOSS event to get this "fuck" [21:44] *activelow doesn't follow [21:44] activelow what is the victory? [21:45] schestowitz-TR I was joking [21:45] schestowitz-TR when people mail me insults and death threats [21:45] schestowitz-TR because they cannot reason [21:45] schestowitz-TR activelow: there is also a reference there to mjg59_ from Red Hat and Google [21:46] schestowitz-TR he bragged going to FOSS events to find sex [21:46] schestowitz-TR and we're "missing out" for not doing the same, according to him [21:46] schestowitz-TR and then he goes about accusing people, baselessly, of sexual misappropriate behaviour [21:47] schestowitz-TR for instance, using baseless and defamatory innuendo to say I am a rape apologist to get "likes" from Microsoft staff and media operatives [21:48] schestowitz-TR tbh, it has been about 2 years since I last received death threats [21:48] schestowitz-TR so maybe I failed to get under the skin of very bad people [21:48] schestowitz-TR this week we start a 28-part series about the EPO [21:48] schestowitz-TR I've just published a [Teaster] [21:48] schestowitz-TR we'll have tons of internal documents [21:49] schestowitz-TR maybe I should upload them all to IPFS [21:49] schestowitz-TR after the relevant parts get published [21:51] schestowitz Salah scores outstanding solo goal in thriller! | Liverpool 2-2 Man City | EPL Highlights - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ZnFnQT0g5j0 [21:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Salah scores outstanding solo goal in thriller! | Liverpool 2-2 Man City | EPL Highlights - Invidious [21:51] DaemonFC It seems Linux recognizes when an SSD is nvme and sets the I/O scheduler on that drive to None automatically. [21:52] DaemonFC Nice. [21:52] DaemonFC I had to do that manually last time I paid any attention to it. [21:53] DaemonFC Debian has some wikirot here and there. [21:53] DaemonFC It suggested that it didn't have tmp on tmpfs. [21:55] DaemonFC Hmm, actually it doesn't? [21:55] DaemonFC How odd. [21:56] activelow my had was spinning around toolchain bootstrapping meanwhile, hence i failed to recognise how foss was victorious, and anyone relying on it with gcc [21:57] DaemonFC "Under systemd, /tmp is automatically mounted as a tmpfs, if it is not already a dedicated mountpoint (either tmpfs or on-disk) in /etc/fstab. To disable the automatic mount, mask the tmp.mount systemd unit. [21:57] DaemonFC " [21:58] DaemonFC So systemd puts tmp on tmpfs without it being specified in fstab now. [21:58] DaemonFC Interesting. [21:58] MinceR did you expect to have some choice in the matter? ● Oct 03 [22:05] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: [22:05] schestowitz-TR https://nitter.eu/robfwtx/status/1444769247096311809#m [22:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.eu | Robert Brown (@robfwtx): "Microsoft Secure Boot and Intel VMD Pointless on GNU/Linux and Lenovos Documentation Recommends That You Turn Them Off http://lxer.com/module/newswire/ext_link.php?rid=305982" | nitter [22:05] schestowitz-TR seems like it has hit lxer just now [22:06] DaemonFC mount | grep tmp [22:06] DaemonFC udev on /dev type devtmpfs (rw,nosuid,relatime,size=8044868k,nr_inodes=2011217,mode=755) [22:06] DaemonFC tmpfs on /run type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,size=1617180k,mode=755) [22:06] DaemonFC tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev) [22:06] DaemonFC tmpfs on /run/lock type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,size=5120k) [22:06] DaemonFC tmpfs on /run/user/1000 type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,size=1617176k,nr_inodes=404294,mode=700,uid=1000,gid=1001) [22:06] DaemonFC So no /tmp on tmpfs [22:07] schestowitz-TR https://nitter.eu/search?q=%23uefi [22:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.eu | nitter [22:07] DaemonFC And systemd has a tmp.mount, but it says it wants to make it 50% of available RAM? [22:07] DaemonFC But it's not active and it says that configuring your mount points via /etc/fstab is "still preferred". [22:08] MinceR strange, i thought /etc/fstab wasn't "modern" [22:08] activelow 50% *max*; it is an upper limit only, and default regardless of systemd whenever a tmpfs is mounted [22:08] activelow those 50% are not related to systemd, it is a kernel default [22:09] DaemonFC So do I use tmp.mount by systemctl enable tmp.mount? [22:09] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:09] DaemonFC Or do I do as the Debian Wiki says with /etc/fstab by hand and risking Poettering changing his mind later? [22:09] DaemonFC Decisions... [22:09] MinceR if you're using debian, you're at his mercy anyway [22:10] *psydroid3 has quit (connection closed) [22:10] activelow i place /tmp and /var/tmp onto zram, disadvantage being no known default, and the benefit /tmp is compressed [22:10] DaemonFC "/etc/default/tmpfs is a sysvinit specific config file. If you are running systemd: [22:10] DaemonFC sudo cp /usr/share/systemd/tmp.mount /etc/systemd/system/ [22:10] DaemonFC sudo systemctl enable tmp.mount" [22:11] DaemonFC I love having sysvinit scripts and system duh units at the same time said nobody ever. [22:11] *GNUmoon has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [22:13] DaemonFC ryanf@ryan-20ve:~$ sudo cp /usr/share/systemd/tmp.mount /etc/systemd/system/ [22:13] DaemonFC ryanf@ryan-20ve:~$ sudo systemctl status tmp.mount [22:13] DaemonFC tmp.mount - Temporary Directory (/tmp) [22:13] DaemonFC Loaded: loaded (/etc/systemd/system/tmp.mount; disabled; vendor preset: enabled) [22:13] DaemonFC Active: inactive (dead) [22:13] DaemonFC Where: /tmp [22:13] DaemonFC What: tmpfs [22:13] DaemonFC Docs: https://systemd.io/TEMPORARY_DIRECTORIES [22:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-systemd.io | Using /tmp/ and /var/tmp/ Safely [22:13] DaemonFC man:file-hierarchy(7) [22:13] DaemonFC https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/APIFileSystems [22:13] DaemonFC ryanf@ryan-20ve:~$ sudo systemctl enable tmp.mount [22:13] DaemonFC Created symlink /etc/systemd/system/local-fs.target.wants/tmp.mount /etc/systemd/system/tmp.mount. [22:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.freedesktop.org | APIFileSystems [22:13] DaemonFC "Please note files in /tmp are wiped out upon reboot unless /etc/default/rcS is set to something other than TMPTIME=0 (if not set, 0 is the default value). [22:13] DaemonFC " [22:13] DaemonFC Oh good. No mess to clean up. [22:13] DaemonFC Brb [22:13] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [22:17] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@udipxmne68iin.irc) has joined #techrights [22:17] DaemonFC Okay, so now I have tmp on tmpfs. [22:19] schestowitz-TR files as services [22:19] schestowitz-TR when do I get sudo systemctl enable screen0 [22:19] schestowitz-TR or stop microphone? [22:19] schestowitz-TR pulseaudio is a step closer [22:19] schestowitz-TR systemd IST DAS system!!! [22:20] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: systemctl kickback DaemonFC [22:20] schestowitz-TR *kickban [22:20] schestowitz-TR systemd install [22:21] schestowitz-TR systemd status drm.services [22:21] schestowitz-TR systemd up location.services [22:21] schestowitz-TR next up: replace firewalls with systemd (has that been done already?) [22:22] schestowitz-TR if files are services in systemd why aren't databases (except the external ones) [22:22] schestowitz-TR maybe systemd wants to replace postgres and mariadb too [22:22] schestowitz-TR call it DB2 [22:23] schestowitz-TR UNIX: everything is a file [22:23] schestowitz-TR systemd: everything as opaque services, even files and file systems [22:23] activelow tmpfs is a dependency [22:23] schestowitz-TR IBM 2.0: everything as a systemd [22:24] schestowitz-TR 2030: everything as an IBM [22:24] schestowitz-TR 2040: everything as a 2030 [22:24] schestowitz-TR those abstractions keep distrupting [22:24] schestowitz-TR things that used to work OK and some older system still use become incompatible [22:25] schestowitz-TR some businesses still run 10-year-old and supported distros/kernels [22:26] schestowitz-TR LF next: every line of code as rust in Microsoft GitHub and non-recpirocal ("permissive" to corporations) licence [22:34] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:34] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:35] DaemonFC https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/10/03/further-reducing-write-amplification-to-an-ssd-in-debian-gnu-linux-put-tmp-in-ram/ [22:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Further reducing write amplification to an SSD in Debian GNU/Linux. Put /tmp in RAM. BaronHK's Rants [22:36] schestowitz-TR ok, goes into howtos [22:36] DaemonFC Why not? [22:37] DaemonFC They made some odd choices in Debian, it seems. [22:37] schestowitz-TR I'll add one to tuxmachines shortly [22:37] DaemonFC I wanted to figure out why tmp wasn't on tmpfs. That's some major wear and tear. [22:40] schestowitz http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156396 [22:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [22:40] DaemonFC There will be more, I'm sure. [22:42] schestowitz-TR ood [22:42] schestowitz-TR good [22:42] DaemonFC Debian is a little rough, but I like it. [22:42] DaemonFC It's getting more enjoyable to use as I fix it up. [22:42] schestowitz-TR you grind it up [22:43] schestowitz-TR seems like a learning hobby [22:43] schestowitz-TR which is good [22:43] schestowitz-TR you can net a decent tech job later on [22:43] schestowitz sponsored spam :/ [22:43] schestowitz https://www.neowin.net/news/pay-what-you-want-and-get-the-linux-ebook-bundle-by-packt/ [22:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.neowin.net | Pay What You Want and get the Linux eBook Bundle by Packt - Neowin [22:43] DaemonFC schestowitz, I learned git in an afternoon. [22:44] *mjg59_ is now known as mjg59 [22:45] schestowitz-TR well, learning and using not the same [22:45] schestowitz-TR experience is not the same as "I got a degree" [22:46] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:47] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@maektprspmf6w.irc) has joined #techrights [22:47] DaemonFC Power outage. [22:48] activelow meanwhile, i cleanly separate ebuilds depending on x11/qt/gtk from those not depending on it... [22:48] DaemonFC I only wanted to learn it so I could more easily maintain a kernel tree. [22:48] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: whoa [22:48] schestowitz-TR in october? [22:48] DaemonFC Thunderstorm. [22:49] schestowitz-TR last year I needed to remind myself that 1) yes, my laptops will run during outage but 2) my connection will not [22:49] activelow ideally, some useful builds could remain in the non-x11 set... media-sound/hydrogen ... a drump computer for midi... requires qt [22:49] activelow how sad [22:49] schestowitz-TR because we never have outages [22:49] schestowitz-TR unless we caused them with appliances inside [22:50] activelow the dependency graph calculation is time consuming whenever i hit one of those :( [22:50] schestowitz-TR I'd rather have the somewhat leaky roof than outages [22:50] DaemonFC I took kernels from the mainline and merged drm-next for the latest AMD graphics code, and then added Ubuntu patches and the linux-rt patch, and some other stuff. [22:50] activelow because, my idea is a full package set can be provided for a real unix-type system setup, and hydrogen drum computer is gone :( [22:50] DaemonFC Then I had a script that compiled them and packaged them, and it would produce a linux-image and linux-headers for me. [22:51] *activelow shuts up [22:51] DaemonFC On the userspace side it was easier. There was a PPA for the latest xorg stuff. [22:52] DaemonFC So I just followed the latest development code. I'd pull it in every once in a while. [22:52] DaemonFC So, I saw my AMD graphics card start working more and more. [22:53] DaemonFC 2d performance got out ahead of FGLRX before 3d performance did. [22:53] DaemonFC But that caught up soon enough. [22:53] schestowitz-TR [22:49] ideally, some useful builds could remain in the non-x11 set... media-sound/hydrogen ... a drump computer for midi... requires qt [22:53] schestowitz-TR what is drump? [22:53] schestowitz-TR drum machine application? [22:54] DaemonFC *shrugs* [22:54] schestowitz-TR qt is veyr prevalent [22:54] activelow schestowitz-TR: typo, drum computer, yes drum machine [22:54] schestowitz-TR and it's proprietary again [22:54] activelow schestowitz-TR: fluidsynth for example doesn't require any x11/qt/gtk ... very nice [22:54] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@a5avv33hqqukg.irc) has joined #techrights [22:54] schestowitz-TR what toolkit is used? [22:54] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [22:54] schestowitz-TR lagrange uses sdl2 [22:54] DaemonFC So is KDE doing anything to oppose this or is that proprietary again? [22:55] schestowitz-TR problem is, it recently outsourced to ****hub [22:55] DaemonFC Everything old is new. [22:55] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: qt is pretending if you are "open source", you are OK? [22:55] schestowitz-TR but this is not software freedom [22:55] activelow schestowitz-TR: sdl2 is problematic too, because it locks into proprietary/malicious gpu on all distros i know, besides evdev [22:55] schestowitz-TR you don't get to decide who is "OK" and who "needs to pay" [22:55] schestowitz-TR gitlab does the same [22:56] DaemonFC At least GNOME didn't migrate to ShitHub. [22:56] schestowitz-TR activelow: yes, in kde plasma it can crash the compositor [22:56] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: they use gitlab [22:56] schestowitz-TR they got special offer from the company [22:56] schestowitz-TR an offer others do not have [22:57] activelow schestowitz-TR: that's why, i revived directfb with sdl2, which has problems, suffices currently to verify some other multimedia fun on framebuffer console on /dev/fb0 ;) [22:57] schestowitz-TR that's one reason we rejected gitlab and did it all over gemini:// too [22:57] DaemonFC I saw Cinnamon using ShitHub before Microsoft bought it and went oh god how unprofessional. [22:57] DaemonFC I can't tell what it does that is important, that GNOME can't do as well or better. [22:57] schestowitz-TR they THINK they save money [22:57] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: "WHY BUY???" [22:57] schestowitz-TR "YOU CAN RENT!!" [22:57] schestowitz-TR "oh yeah?" [22:58] schestowitz-TR so let few monopolies own and control all platforms and homes [22:58] schestowitz-TR and say, "THIS IS OK!!" [22:58] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Mandy is saying something about voting for Marcos. [22:58] schestowitz-TR lol [22:58] schestowitz-TR bonbbong? [22:58] schestowitz-TR *bongbong? [22:58] DaemonFC He's already related to Imelda. His sister. All her damned shoes. [22:58] schestowitz-TR people still vote for that slimy family [22:59] schestowitz-TR it's a messed up place with awful history of colonialism ● Oct 03 [23:00] schestowitz-TR uk us japan portugal (maybe) spain [23:00] DaemonFC Do they really have nothing better? [23:00] schestowitz-TR and the muslim neighbours too [23:00] schestowitz-TR Islam is a politcal wing [23:00] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: not they have boxer [23:01] schestowitz-TR maybe the next president will be Pacman [23:01] schestowitz-TR that would be hilarious [23:01] schestowitz-TR doing photo ops with biden like they do before a boxing match with gloves on [23:01] schestowitz-TR "I come from a place where we kick arse' [23:01] DaemonFC Biden isn't as corrupt as the Marcos family or Duterte. [23:02] schestowitz-TR different standards [23:02] DaemonFC I'm not saying it wouldn't be tolerated here. It was obvious what Trump was. [23:02] schestowitz-TR but ferdinand marcos is like pol pot [23:02] schestowitz-TR well educated and arrogant [23:02] DaemonFC But he didn't get another term once he did everything he did. [23:02] schestowitz-TR kills tons of people to cement power [23:02] schestowitz-TR duterte is a dumb version of marcos [23:03] schestowitz-TR Trump is dumber than Marcos [23:03] schestowitz-TR but he "loves the poorly educated" [23:04] schestowitz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9L2qdZBD4IA [23:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Trump laughs when Duterte calls journalists "spies" - YouTube [23:04] DaemonFC Mandy says nobody good to vote for. [23:04] DaemonFC He says the boxing guy is really dumb. [23:04] DaemonFC He's a good boxer but that's about it. [23:05] DaemonFC I said too many blows to the head, probably. [23:05] schestowitz not just that [23:05] schestowitz he comes from a fisherman place [23:06] schestowitz with poor levels of education and literacy [23:06] schestowitz but that does not make him a malicious person [23:06] schestowitz just unqualified [23:06] schestowitz ask him to point places on the map when named [23:06] schestowitz you'd soon see this is a catastrophe [23:06] schestowitz https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/19/finns-aghast-that-trump-could-think-their-country-is-part-of-russia [23:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Finns aghast that Trump could think their country is part of Russia | Donald Trump | The Guardian [23:07] DaemonFC http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156365 [23:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | HexChat IRC Client 2.16.0 Adds New IRCv3 Features, Strikethrough Formatting | Tux Machines [23:07] DaemonFC schestowitz, May have to grab the Flatpak. [23:09] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [23:13] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@maektprspmf6w.irc) has joined #techrights [23:16] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [23:16] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@maektprspmf6w.irc) has joined #techrights [23:16] DaemonFC There we go. [23:16] DaemonFC HexChat 2.16 and the Black theme. [23:17] schestowitz-TR new release [23:17] DaemonFC ask him to point places on the map when named [23:17] DaemonFC Shit, I could do that. [23:17] schestowitz http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156365 [23:18] schestowitz sexchat :-) [23:18] schestowitz but with h [23:21] DaemonFC "remove libnotify dependency on Linux, fixing hangs when notifications are shown" [23:21] DaemonFC :) [23:21] DaemonFC The remnants of Unity. [23:32] schestowitz-TR Ariadne: headsup: we start a 28-part EPO series in one hour [23:36] *schestowitz-TR does not expect SLAPP, but we have deterrence in place to discourage even attempts at it [23:37] DaemonFC Hmm, Debian adds noatime to file systems on an SSD. [23:37] schestowitz The EPO's Overseer/Overseen Collusion Part I: Let the Sunshine In! [23:40] DaemonFC # set scheduler for NVMe [23:40] DaemonFC ACTION=="add|change", KERNEL=="nvme[0-9]n[0-9]", ATTR{queue/scheduler}="none" [23:40] DaemonFC # set scheduler for SSD and eMMC [23:40] DaemonFC ACTION=="add|change", KERNEL=="sd[a-z]|mmcblk[0-9]*", ATTR{queue/rotational}=="0", ATTR{queue/scheduler}="mq-deadline" [23:40] DaemonFC # set scheduler for rotating disks [23:40] DaemonFC ACTION=="add|change", KERNEL=="sd[a-z]", ATTR{queue/rotational}=="1", ATTR{queue/scheduler}="bfq" [23:40] DaemonFC That's a nice udev rule. [23:40] DaemonFC *zoink* [23:40] schestowitz-TR why change it? [23:41] DaemonFC None works best on an SSD, but I also use rotational storage. [23:41] DaemonFC I wonder if I could make that external drive less of a piece of shit. [23:42] DaemonFC Kyber might be worth looking into for that, [23:44] DaemonFC BFQ low-latency did the best on some Western Digital drives on Phoronix as of Linux 5.0. [23:45] activelow didn't sata controllers NCQ almost always? same with SSD, these internally buffer read/writes. [23:45] activelow and NVMe? those got on board controllers doing magic too. [23:46] DaemonFC $ sudo cat /sys/block/sda/queue/scheduler [23:46] DaemonFC [sudo] password for ryanf: [23:46] DaemonFC [mq-deadline] none [23:46] activelow what shall this accomplish? prevent some worst-case latency spikes? [23:49] DaemonFC I changed it over to BFQ. [23:49] DaemonFC Now I can run a bunchmark. [23:52] DaemonFC Hmm. [23:53] DaemonFC Benchmark isn't any better, but it did get rid of those intermittent stalls in the read/write tests. [23:53] DaemonFC But no faster overall. [23:53] DaemonFC I might as well check out kyber and cfq [23:54] DaemonFC No CFQ...Heh. [23:55] DaemonFC Kyber does better than "None" on writes, but worse on reads. [23:59] activelow sceptical, if this isn't any side-effect of different sync() timing, if a scheduler involved is faster than none without any concurrency [23:59] activelow DaemonFC: does your benchmarking do concurrent reads/writes?