●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, May 04, 2022 ●● ● May 04 [00:00] TR Bot today's leftovers | Tux Machines [00:00] matey one file had 40 copies (on the same partition) [00:00] matey if you merge backups, a lot, this can happen [00:00] matey over years [00:02] XRevan86 Maybe it's not the video I was thinking of. [00:03] XRevan86 Or I misremembered. [00:03] *pyfisch3 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [00:04] *psymin_ has quit (Quit: Leaving) [00:04] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [00:05] matey /me wonders if anyone has noticed that people who dont blame their tools, while also being more skilled, also tend to avoid using shittier tools when possible [00:06] matey i mean yeah you can still do more than the average bloke with some fisher price bullshit [00:06] XRevan86 I guess I misremembered his having a desperate radical message for his desperation. [00:06] matey xrevan86 who [00:06] matey /me is curious now [00:07] XRevan86 matey: Luke Smith on November 4th 2020 was talking about how the USA needs a divorse, effectively because the conservatives/whites need their own states. [00:08] XRevan86 That's a great solution to difference in opinion, just split the country every time there's a disagreement. [00:08] XRevan86 Until every household is its own country of course. [00:09] matey oh [00:09] matey i dont know why people put stock in that guy [00:09] matey hes such a pandering douchebag [00:09] XRevan86 * divorce [00:10] XRevan86 matey: He's talking about "history" and religion now too. [00:10] MinceR s/household/person/ [00:10] MinceR FTFY [00:10] XRevan86 What's there not to like? [00:10] MinceR i'm all for it [00:10] matey your scarequotes are a service [00:11] MinceR though it's faster to just abolish every state [00:11] matey mincer: if that were true wed have done it by now [00:11] MinceR what [00:11] matey /me is all for abolishing the state, just not via a route that most anarchists would favour [00:11] matey the state is horrible [00:12] MinceR well yeah, splitting the state until it ends up there is probably not the most reliable route [00:12] *SkywaveC3_ (~SkywaveC3@rxgwivr9usmy2.irc) has joined #techrights [00:12] *SkywaveC3 has quit (connection closed) [00:12] matey thats not what id advocate [00:12] activelow "A long rant on why I believe sixel support has been blocked deliberately and unfairly" ... [00:12] activelow "Some maintainers are holding users hostage to favor their preferred formats" [00:12] matey sixels are not that important [00:12] *goosestepping_ has quit (Quit: Ping timeout: Over 9000!!!) [00:12] matey theyre cool, implement them, its cool [00:13] matey mozilla did more to gopher than anyone did to sixels [00:13] matey you cant just find a corpse and say THIS MAN WAS MURDERED!!!!!! [00:13] matey like, why does it look like foul play? [00:14] activelow there is some remarks about gnome terminal/vte too... [00:14] matey all gnome is death for free software [00:14] activelow can't wait for the next glorious announcement of GNOMEbuntu... what's next on their roadmap... gtk4 with opengl? [00:14] matey its not easy to get rid of, but the more you can remove the better [00:14] *goosestepping_ (~goosestepping@9ucczhkmm895g.irc) has joined #techrights [00:14] matey /me still uses gtk, but isnt happy about it [00:14] activelow yet, for sixels, there is no need for any opengl compositor [00:15] matey i was happy to replace icewm with dwm [00:15] matey no gtk [00:15] activelow with gtk4 it's mandatory now, opengl, yet no sixels ... what a brainfuck [00:15] matey icewm is cool, wish someone would port it to work with tk (but thats not how such projects usually work) [00:15] matey /me checks something [00:15] *matey has quit (connection closed) [00:16] psydruid IBM: THE GREAT PRETENDER [00:16] psydruid IBM: THE GREAT BANKRUPTCY [00:16] *SkywaveC3 (~SkywaveC3@vrjpn3w7kihz4.irc) has joined #techrights [00:16] psydruid IBM: THE GREAT NAZI COLLABORATOR THAT WAS [00:17] *SkywaveC3_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:17] activelow you see, a terminal emulator with sixels, what would i need... a single core, maybe 256MiB RAM... [00:17] *matey (~matey@cgtpzzefy235i.irc) has joined #techrights [00:17] MinceR what would icewm need tk for? [00:18] matey mincer: if the goal is to get rid of gtk [00:18] matey then gtk is sort of an impediment to that [00:18] MinceR i thought icewm didn't depend on gtk [00:18] matey then its a very reasonable question [00:18] MinceR well, maybe their optional config tool does [00:18] matey im pretty sure its gtk2 [00:18] MinceR if it has one [00:18] MinceR i'm not sure it does [00:18] matey no i think it uses [00:18] matey you know? im happy to check [00:18] matey either way i got rid of it because github [00:18] matey i miss icewm, its nice. [00:19] matey ive used it a lot [00:19] MinceR doesn't seem to depend on gtk [00:19] matey the first time i ran x at all, it was running icewm [00:19] matey ill check again [00:19] matey but yeah if youre right, then it wouldnt need tk at all [00:19] matey that would be cool [00:19] MinceR it's my fallback wm in case i don't have time to configure stuff [00:19] matey i just used it because its fast and has good defaults [00:19] matey it behaves as expected [00:19] MinceR i just run icewm, set theme to infadel, set it to mouse focus and it's usable and pretty [00:20] activelow jwm is quick and easy to use too [00:20] activelow however, this doesn't answer the question wtf happened to "free software" terminal emulators... including linux console [00:20] activelow i mean... if graphics capabilities are gone... which terminal emulator could be used to plog diagrams and render TeX and whatever? [00:21] matey pkg_info -f icewm | grep "@dep" [00:21] matey @depend audio/libao:libao @depend audio/libsndfile:libsndfile @depend devel/desktop-file-utils:desktop-file-utils @depend devel/fribidi:fribidi @depend graphics/gdk-pixbuf2 [00:21] MinceR jwm seems very similar to icewm, i should probably try it someday [00:22] matey /me tries to think what fucked up shit jwm did recently [00:22] matey i literally just saw something [00:22] matey i used jwm a lot because of dsl and puppy [00:22] matey but icewm is always a step forward from there [00:22] activelow icewm -> media-libs/fontconfig ... jwm doesn't need this crap [00:23] matey do a dependency graph on jwm [00:23] MinceR do a beryl roll [00:23] matey ill be very surprised if you still like it [00:23] matey that was horrible :) [00:23] MinceR :) [00:23] bnchs SGI BAD [00:23] matey im not going to be able to sleep after that [00:24] matey i was editing jwm config at one point [00:24] matey and i thought [00:24] matey i fucking hate xml [00:24] matey i dont ever want to edit xml EVER AGAIN [00:24] matey config files are ok [00:25] matey xml is just sugar [00:25] matey and people feel comfortable with it, so they add more and more xml [00:25] matey until theres nothing but fucking bloated syntax everywhere [00:25] matey and there are 80 fucking attributes in one line of [00:25] MinceR :) [00:26] matey its one of those things where making it MORE comfortable actually makes it worse to use [00:26] matey like when you find a nice fluffy pair of gloves-- and need to pick your nose. [00:27] matey which is fine, as long as the gloves can be removed [00:28] matey its kind of like the friendly gui of syntax-- more than a decade ago i seriously considered making an xml programming language [00:28] *pyfisch3 (~pyfisch@user/pyfisch) has joined #techrights [00:28] activelow icewm -> glib ... GNOMEified [00:29] matey [00:29] matey but what happens to xml is, because it seems friendly and familiar to people [00:29] matey it gets used as a shoehorn for all kinds of shit [00:30] activelow jwm is simple to use and simple to configure, and it barely needs any configuration [00:30] matey like a "friendly gui" thats horrible for some purpose, so you get 30 tabs with 50 controls and none of it is consistent [00:30] matey also known as vlc player [00:30] activelow anyway... jwm isn't any recommendation, it is an alternative to icewm, and it is a better choice given the dependencies of icewm (which are gnomeishy) [00:30] matey jwm is simple to use and simple to configure <- im not going to trust the opinion on whether or not xml is a pain in the arse from someone using gentoo to remove unicode. [00:31] activelow i didn't remove unicode support [00:31] *goosestepping_ has quit (Quit: Ping timeout: Over 9000!!!) [00:31] matey its really just the fact that youre using gentoo [00:31] matey which is awesome by the way [00:31] matey but just like the super rich dont know what its like to wonder where next meal comes from [00:31] matey gentoo users probably can no longer say if something is easy to use or not [00:32] matey or maybe they can, for now i think probably not. [00:32] psydruid SGI causes you nightmares featuring dinosaurs [00:32] matey as i said, jwm made me realise i hate xml [00:32] matey /me only has nightmares that theyll make even more sequels [00:33] matey theyre going to make michael crichton into the next george lucas [00:33] matey does disney own that franchise yet? did crichton sign the usual oath in blood? [00:34] *goosestepping_ (~goosestepping@9ucczhkmm895g.irc) has joined #techrights [00:34] TR News From Belarus With Love Part XII: Alexander Deevs Provocative Comments | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/03/alexander-deev-blunder/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/03/alexander-deev-blunder/ [00:34] TR Bot From Belarus With Love Part XII: Alexander Deevs Provocative Comments | Techrights [00:34] activelow apropos unicode... can your terminal emulator do this: [00:34] matey it literally just did [00:34] activelow and well, i do not need any ICU or whatever [00:35] activelow and this terminal too already got sixels... [00:35] matey i dont think those are enabled in this build, but they are a feature [00:35] activelow which i think, should be default with _all_ distros [00:36] matey even if theres a security flaw in the code and they cant be bothered fixing it? [00:36] matey /me is taking a wild guess [00:36] matey as you said its not just a few pixels, its a protocol [00:36] matey protocols have to do several things-- sometimes the implementation has flaws [00:36] matey so reimplement or turn off [00:36] activelow the attack vector against terminals with sixels is, in practice, this: {0, 0, 0} [00:37] *psydruid is frank and only remembers jurassic park because of laura dern [00:37] matey sounds like youve never heard of a buffer overflow in cat or strings [00:37] psydruid I did watch it with my friends at the cinema at the time [00:37] matey she was ok [00:38] matey i like tall, and i think shes tall, so theres that [00:38] activelow ok... sixel support is working now... i switched framebuffer to 16bit... and sixels require a 24/32bit framebuffer... well [00:39] activelow you see... too sixels can be rendered HighColor [00:39] matey sixels require a 24/32bit framebuffer <- maybe thats why its turned off [00:39] activelow the sixel implementation i tested required 24/32bit within X11... it is a bug [00:40] matey sixels can be rendered HighColor <- they should work in monochrome, wth [00:40] activelow it too works with 16colors... and moment ... yes, greyscale too :) [00:41] matey weird [00:41] activelow it was some bug against the X11 API and XPutImage... [00:41] activelow because, internally, the color palettes must be converted... [00:41] matey i think its a very cool hack [00:41] matey im less prepared to believe in some conspiracy about it [00:42] matey too obscure [00:42] activelow DEC VT341 is a _standard_ [00:42] matey so is the stuff youre turning off [00:42] activelow with a proven track record of... 40 years [00:42] activelow which stuff? [00:42] matey standard features get axed all the time [00:43] matey how many of the dec standards were implemented COMPLETELY in any free software? [00:43] matey some im certain were partial to begin with [00:44] activelow anway... some TODOs remaining, such as sixel to epson-raw-bitmap conversion [00:44] activelow because then my terminal can do this: $ img2sixel >/dev/lp0 ; echo "fck you" >/dev/lp0 [00:45] matey heh [00:45] activelow and support for this for linux console _without_ x11 is remaining on TODO too [00:48] activelow TeX typesetting to sixel, gnuplot to sixel ... some minor things remaining [00:49] *oarion7 (anonymous@user/oarion7) has joined #techrights [00:54] TR News Tetzle 2.2.1 released https://gottcode.org/tetzle/ [00:54] TR Bot Tetzle [00:55] TR News Tanglet 1.6.2 released https://gottcode.org/tanglet/ [00:55] TR Bot Tanglet [00:57] activelow since i wiped apple CUPS and replaced it with lpr-ng, configured for matrix printers already, some format conversion handler there shouldn't be too difficult [00:57] *activelow needs to check epson-raw-bitmap [00:58] activelow because sixels are supported by DEC printers... either epson matrix printers can support DEC sixel format or a conversion is needed [00:58] activelow btw. 256color-palette looks very good, almost indistinguishable from HighColor or TrueColor [00:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.71 k/sec., IPFS upstream 58.70 average k/sec., average swarm size 500.56 [00:59] TR News How to Install Slackware Linux 15: A Full Step-by-Step Guide https://linuxiac.com/install-slackware-linux/ Source: linuxiac [00:59] TR Bot ( status 522 @ https://linuxiac.com/install-slackware-linux/ ) ● May 04 [01:00] TR News Clownflare fake 'security' https://dekisoft.com/ways-to-find-real-ip-behind-cloudflare/ [01:00] TR Bot Ways to find real IP behind Cloudflare or a Proxy Server - DekiSoft [01:01] TR News Graeme Gott Ports to Qt6 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164447 [01:01] TR Bot Graeme Gott Ports to Qt6 | Tux Machines [01:01] matey 256color-palette looks very good, almost indistinguishable from HighColor or TrueColor <- yeah, i used 256 colour vga for MANY years [01:02] matey its NOTHING REMOTELY like highcolor [01:02] TR News The EPOs outsourcing to Belarus should leave Antnio Campinos a little shy of association in spite of the comment he made back in March http://techrights.org/2022/05/03/alexander-deev-blunder/ [01:02] TR Bot From Belarus With Love Part XII: Alexander Deevs Provocative Comments | Techrights [01:02] matey about as similar as english and french [01:02] schestowitz-TR pixel density is important [01:02] schestowitz-TR with high density you get a lot [01:03] matey yeah i used to favour a certain graphics editor for its capable dithering of 16 colours too [01:03] schestowitz-TR people forget what res we had in cga/ega/vga days [01:03] matey you should both sell used cars like this [01:03] DaemonFC https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/05/03/trump-judge-deemed-unqualified-by-the-american-bar-association-was-the-one-that-threw-out-the-face-mask-mandate/ [01:03] TR Bot Trump judge deemed unqualified by the American Bar Association was the one that threw out the face mask mandate. BaronHK's Rants [01:03] schestowitz-TR somje screens now have like 100 times more pixels in them [01:04] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: in the US you get a front row seat [01:04] schestowitz-TR in the freaskshow [01:04] schestowitz-TR according to george carlin [01:04] schestowitz-TR some kid becomes judge [01:04] schestowitz-TR just a few years after barely finishing law school [01:05] matey somje screens now have like 100 times more pixels in them <- sure, but 1920x1080 is only 32 times 320x200 [01:06] matey then again if you have 6 monitors, thats 6 times as many pixels :) [01:06] goosestepping_ before I go, could somebody please tell me, if a Book has references to drug use and the likes, but not in any sort of derogatory fashion, then would I check Yes, or No, on a question as this: Does this book contain language, situations, or images inappropriate for children under 18 years of age? [01:06] matey so if you have 6 1920x1080 screens, thats 180 times 320x200 [01:07] matey kids use drugs [01:07] matey sometimes they write books for kids about kids who have used drugs [01:07] matey i imagine at least a few do so in a reasonable (non-propaganda-like) fashion [01:08] matey so making a hard rule about 100% of instances would be difficult [01:08] matey as making hard rules about nearly anything is difficult [01:08] matey including that one [01:08] TR News "The good news, though, is that there is no indication theyve been exploited by attackers in the wild." https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2022/05/03/tlstorm-2-0/ [01:08] TR Bot TLStorm 2.0: Critical bugs in widely-used Aruba, Avaya network switches - Help Net Security [01:08] matey hence "nearly anything" [01:09] matey hard rules, simple answers, impossible solutions, continuing problems [01:09] *AdmFubar1 has quit (connection closed) [01:11] TR News Phoronix outsourced to clownflare... AAAANNNNND... "Error 526 Ray ID: 705d03dbcfe576d5 2022-05-04 00:10:44 UTC Invalid SSL certificate" [01:12] TR News SSL certs improve security if you don't deem long, unexpected downtime a security issue. Clownflare makes that even WORSE. [01:12] activelow thinking about gemini with sixels... for wikipedia inside gemini space [01:13] activelow this may be the easiest route to take to browse www/html, with a germini protocol conversion, and a terminal germini client with sixels output [01:14] activelow because, illustrations, monocrome or 16 colors, at some bare minim, are useful for scientific publications [01:14] activelow not sure, if animated sixels are possible or desireable [01:15] activelow scientific authoring and publication... thinking thinking thinking [01:15] activelow since, the economic war and acts of sabotage against this, made in USA and their corporate interests mainly... [01:16] activelow can't have this without a matlab license, adobe premiere and whatever else... f**** this [01:17] activelow on IBM wintel PC only... another one... such business habits are economic warfare [01:17] activelow not some minor criminal incident relevant to anti-trust, it is an economic war [01:17] activelow attacking and sabotaging science [01:19] activelow the era, when this escalated, i think, was Raegan presidency in 1980s, with protectionist and aggressions such as the 1984 semiconductor protection act... prolonged until today [01:20] activelow the technological ruins and shattered pieces of the last 40 years [01:21] activelow reminds me of TempleOS again... which got vector graphics capabilities too, including animated, and realtime [01:21] bnchs wait does altlink rely on a list [01:21] activelow i mean... what happened to "free software" elsewhere? [01:23] activelow got that? a DEC VT341 was more capable than most terminals shipped as "free software" nowadays [01:25] activelow someone posted a link to PDP-11 with tektronix 4050 or 4014 terminal capabilities, this had monochrome graphics capabilities for scientific plots and illustrations, within the terminal [01:25] activelow that's late 1970s... almost 50years anniversary [01:26] activelow and the hardware required, the board seemed to be assembled from some TTL7400 chips, little RAM, little ROM, and basic interpreter and vector graphics support [01:27] activelow nowadays... 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Ken Thompson [03:31] activelow http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/ [03:31] TR Bot All software sucks [03:35] *goosestepping_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:53] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● May 04 [04:10] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@s44cwn8sugddy.irc) has joined #techrights [04:10] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 17.15 k/sec., IPFS upstream 28.73 average k/sec., average swarm size 336.28 [04:19] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [04:26] *matey (~matey@yaf5revuadim4.irc) has joined #techrights [04:42] DaemonFC Mom was reading a story about a woman being arrested for refusing to return $1.2 million the bank accidentally put into her account. [04:42] DaemonFC How do you get $1.2 million in cash out of a bank? [04:43] DaemonFC I went into my bank to get enough to buy an $8,000 car and they said "If we have it.". I walked out of the bank with it singing "The Man Who Broke the Bank at Monte Carlo". [04:45] matey she got a million dollars AND they gave it to her in cash? [04:45] matey its settled then, you have the wrong bank. [04:46] matey even as a loan, a million isnt bad. she could have gone to vegas and spent it all on strippers. [04:46] matey /me has no idea what a million equates to in strippers [04:47] matey thats a lie, ive done the math down to the decimal. [04:50] matey /me thinks such rates should be on booking websites like priceline, william shatner could promote this [04:51] matey "you save a lot of money if someone has hired and then cancelled"-- tully from ghostbusters (but not reall) [04:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 28.50 k/sec., IPFS upstream 67.40 average k/sec., average swarm size 342.40 ● May 04 [05:47] matey https://yewtu.be/watch?v=FTlzaDgzPY8 [05:47] TR Bot 7th Edition Unix at 40 by Warner Losh - Invidious [05:52] matey it explains a lot of things that people might otherwise think were invented by linus, or something like that [05:52] matey c came from b, which would have been fortran otherwise [05:53] matey if you try to make a systems language based on fortran for the pdp-7, maybe you end up with b (then c) instead [05:53] *AdmFubar has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [05:53] matey and i guess unix was originally called "kens new system" [05:53] matey kenux [05:53] matey they never called it kenux [05:56] activelow nice... removed c++ configure check ... /usr/bin/w3m -sixel :) [05:57] matey also it was originally designed to repurpose e-waste (specifically the pdp-7 the visual and acoustics department had gotten bored with) [05:57] *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: Leaving) [05:57] *matey has quit (connection closed) [05:57] activelow working... finally the somewhat buggy links-browser can be removed, i'll not bother with gtk/netsurf/ or any other like this anymore [05:58] activelow yet, before gnome/glib can be removed, i need to replace midnight commander and irssi irc with something else... [05:58] *matey (~matey@vvbde374bfqga.irc) has joined #techrights [05:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 16.30 k/sec., IPFS upstream 83.18 average k/sec., average swarm size 430.85 [05:59] activelow irssi is somewhat sad, it is better to remain consistent with the decisions... and remove glib and all dependencies ... it isn't required anymore [05:59] activelow somehow, even irssi is conceptually slightly flawed, because it duplicated functionalities of a terminal multiplexer ● May 04 [06:00] activelow instead of managing servers/channels with irssi, i think tmux-screens with separate irc-client instance are preferable [06:01] activelow anyway... w3m+sixels... i'll bundle this into a clean ebuild, fix some color scheme issues [06:03] matey ken thompson apparently made a version of basic (yes, basic) for the pdp11 [06:03] *AdmFubar (~mradmin@ngqaam7baxnug.irc) has joined #techrights [06:03] matey with if else fi [06:04] matey it used line numbers-- possibly optional ones [06:04] matey the language was probably not yet 20 years old (first version in 63 or 64) [06:05] activelow seems i am not alone http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/c++/ [06:05] TR Bot C++ is Good for the Economy, It Creates Jobs! [06:08] matey Turn your PC into a PDP-11 running Seventh Edition UNIX. This way you can run UNIX just like Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson did back in 1979. This is a sanos port of Bob Supnik's PDP-11 simulator. I have made an ISO image with sanos, the PDP-11 simulator, and the UNIX V7 kit from The Computer History Simulation Project. Just put the CD-ROM in your PC and boot. Then your PC is turned into a PDP-11 running UNIX V7! [06:09] matey http://www.jbox.dk/sanos/pdp11.htm [06:09] TR Bot Sanos PDP-11 Simulator with UNIX V7 [06:09] matey http://www.jbox.dk/downloads/pdp11.zip [06:10] matey that iso (zipped) is possibly 15 years old [06:10] matey you can run it in qemu [06:11] matey as for the age of the binaries therein... [06:11] matey # Restricted rights: Use, duplication, or disclosures [06:11] matey is subject to restrictions stated in your contract with [06:11] matey Western Electric Company, Inc. [06:11] matey Thu Sep 22 19:44:08 EDT 1988 [06:11] activelow what's interesting about the dependency graph with sixels in place and w3m for example... the typical fbcon (linux framebuffer console driver) backend isn't necessary to output bitmap graphics; instead sixels in between are the vendor-independent abstraction, and the capability can be advertised correctly depending on the terminal available [06:12] activelow given the fact, fbcon too is a vendor-lock, against linux [06:12] matey a 34 year old copy of unix v7 [06:14] *ciphrCat has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [06:14] activelow too, sixels are agnostic towards X11 or none at all... either the terminal got it, or it didn't [06:15] *cybrNaut has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [06:17] activelow matey: would be curious what the termcaps of this unix v7 were [06:17] activelow such as, ReGIS/sixels [06:18] activelow because, the prime use case of computer systems was, science, mathematics, with the possibility to plot graphs [06:18] *ciphrCat (~ciphrCat@v75kd7krrqfvs.irc) has joined #techrights [06:19] activelow of cause, vector graphics aren't the only criteria, nonetheless a Ti89 calculator could do it, with it's limited BASIC interpreter shell and low-res display [06:20] *cybrNaut (~cybrNaut@freenode-tto.k1n.ssv8hv.IP) has joined #techrights [06:23] matey at bell labs there were 3 pdp9s and 2 pdp15s that ran php7 unix [06:23] matey because of broad (but incomplete) binary compatbility from model to model [06:24] matey and the pdp7 emulator, a computer implemented as software, was written for (and won) the obfuscated c contest [06:24] activelow this is how C language andc compilers evolved, with the promise of an abstraction above hardware-specific ASM programming [06:26] activelow anyway, w3m is cool... it is 100% c-only (only removed c++ check from configure.ac) [06:26] activelow the only c++ code inside is to target... a voila ... Microsoft IBM Wintel PC [06:26] matey the discarded pdp7 that unix was developed on originally was about $250,000 in 1965 money, maybe a million or a million and a half (e-waste) that unix salvaged [06:27] activelow a fun feature, the output rendering of graphics can be easily switched to monochrome, which the epson matrix printer got [06:28] activelow if terminal is set to 80 characters width, the virtual-terminal output should match 100% what is plotted onto a matrix printer [06:28] activelow or 120 characters, which is possible too with epson matrix [06:30] matey "first edition sounds really fancy... it means they printed a manual 'and this is the first edition because thats the date we printed the manual'" [06:30] matey "they didnt have cvs, or sscs, or git or anything like that" [06:30] matey sccs [06:31] matey by 5th edition they had completed the kernel rewrite (porting it to c) [06:32] matey the userland however, was still not ported to c [06:32] matey a lot of this information is from tuhs.org [06:32] DaemonFC schestowitz, We should get rid of the useless eaters, really, when you think about it. [06:32] DaemonFC Let's kill all the lawyers. [06:32] matey which stallman might call "retrocomputing" bu [06:32] matey while the world wouldnt miss lawyers [06:33] matey and that part is a nice thought... [06:33] matey (i would personally miss lessig) [06:33] DaemonFC They don't add anything to the economy. [06:33] matey " rid of the useless eaters" isnt entirely fair (or different from what hitler) [06:33] matey dont make me get the hose, mike... [06:33] DaemonFC They don't invent, they don't even promote the arts and sciences. [06:33] DaemonFC They don't even dig ditches and fill them back in. [06:33] DaemonFC They're terrorists for hire. [06:33] matey the economy is a piece of shit, its barely nicer to humanity than nazi germany all in all [06:34] matey They're terrorists for hire. <- lawyers or people you think are lazy? [06:34] DaemonFC Lawyers. [06:34] matey oh them [06:34] DaemonFC Their job is mostly vexatious litigation. [06:35] matey well its a dangerous argument, because it wont end with just lawyers [06:35] DaemonFC Only rarely does it get so bad that even the courts and other lawyers step in and ban them from practicing law anymore. [06:35] matey other than that... *shrug* [06:35] activelow the term "retrocomputing" doesn't do justice to what real unix is [06:35] DaemonFC People on welfare can't do as much damage to the economy as just one lawyer. [06:35] matey if anything they help it (considering what the economy IS) [06:36] matey the economy is the greatest pyramid scheme since... well, actual pyramids [06:36] DaemonFC Assuming people on welfare don't do anything useful, at all, and just eat and take space and tax money (which is how they are viewed, even though it's not the facts...) it would take about 10,000 of them to do as much harm as having 1 lawyer. [06:36] matey lol [06:36] matey time to write a book ryan [06:37] matey even if its just a comedy one like carlin or seinfeld did [06:37] matey which wasnt their best work, but there were some good bits [06:37] *Despatche (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #techrights [06:38] DaemonFC Lawyers are worse than people who are in advertising. [06:38] DaemonFC Even the ones that made ads for cigarettes. [06:38] matey i dont know [06:38] DaemonFC Ads can't make you do anything you didn't kind of want to already. Courts can. [06:38] matey the problem with marketing is its long term impacts on how society works [06:38] matey i actually think theyre worse than lawyers [06:38] matey but bill hicks is a huge inspiration there [06:38] matey but i really mean it (he probably did too) [06:39] DaemonFC "Kill yourself! There's no joke coming." [06:39] matey Ads can't make you do anything you didn't kind of want to already <- long term manipulation from birth to death can have a really incredible impact [06:39] DaemonFC My feelings about lawyers. [06:39] matey bill hicks was a prophet. [06:40] matey its outrageous that anyone (even jones himself) ever compared alex jones to bill hicks [06:40] DaemonFC I think Bill Hicks would like me. I think he would. [06:40] matey thats blasphemy [06:40] matey better you than alex jones [06:41] matey you do have a hicks-like flavour to your schtick, at least [06:41] DaemonFC I slept until 12:30 today. Bill Hicks said his boss told him to look busy. He says, "You get paid more than me. You fantasize. You're lucky I'm even here. My bed was like a womb.". [06:41] DaemonFC That's how I feel about bed vs. doing stuff. [06:42] DaemonFC If he could just be here to see all the abortion stuff. [06:42] DaemonFC The evil insane idiot fucks finally won. [06:42] matey /me is on the evil insane idiot fucks side [06:43] matey im not offended, its the sort of issue where being passionate is often unavoidable [06:43] DaemonFC To get an abortion, you have to have the presence of mind to see how it will ruin you financially, and ruin your body and mind, if you commit to having children. [06:43] DaemonFC So even in Illinois, most of them don't get an abortion, even when they really should have done anything besides having children. [06:44] matey i thought you were anti-abortion [06:44] DaemonFC Well, I am. I think it's nuts that it ever got to that point. [06:44] DaemonFC But the Republicans are laying the foundation to take away birth control too. [06:45] matey more birth control, fewer abortions, its true [06:45] matey but never count on consistency from republicans, or sanity from democrats [06:45] DaemonFC That was the way it was heading anyway. [06:45] DaemonFC People are having fewer abortions now than ever. [06:46] matey they feed from the same trough [06:46] DaemonFC About half a many as when Roe was being argued, even though abortion was only legal in like 6 states then. [06:46] DaemonFC After Roe, it will still be legal in 30. [06:46] DaemonFC And even if we lose the three that are expected to ban it, then 27. [06:46] matey which 3? [06:46] DaemonFC 27 states with over 80% of the US population, and most are in range of a state that banned it. [06:47] DaemonFC Indiana for sure. [06:47] DaemonFC Saw a couple others. Can't remember which. NPR had a map. [06:47] DaemonFC But it's not difficult to get from Indiana to Illinois even without a car. [06:47] matey i guess theyre still happy to be progessive when it dovetails with eugenics :) [06:47] DaemonFC You buy a bus ticket or you take the commuter rail or something. [06:48] matey if you take a greyhound the fetus will probably be dead from stress before you get to the clinic [06:49] matey project paperclip was mostly about scientists and the space programme [06:49] matey however greyhound makes me wonder if a few transporation projects werent lifted from nazi germany as well [06:49] matey mostly the way they train the drivers [06:49] matey granted its not an enviable occupation [06:50] matey but its basially a hostage situation whenever youre on board, run by the driver [06:50] matey you might think id be against greyhound drivers being armed [06:50] matey im not, if anything it might help them relax a little [06:50] matey itd be worth the risk [06:51] matey but credit where credit is due, theyll get you to the abortion clinic [06:52] matey i got on a greyhound-like bus in europe once [06:52] matey thats a lie, they dont exist as far as i know [06:52] matey it was like a palace on wheels [06:52] matey they have the same ones in russia and poland for fucks sake [06:52] matey america the beautiful [06:53] matey unless you need to get on a fucking bus, then its america, welcome to hell on earth [06:53] matey maybe its better than buses in mexico, but that depends on whether the ones in mexico are being shot at at the time [06:54] matey or how hot it is that day [06:54] matey they should make you take a trip on greyhound in lieu of community service for petty offenders [06:54] matey it should keep more people out of jail for worse offenses [06:55] matey "yeah i could use the money, but fuck it, im not risking another bus ride" [06:55] DaemonFC I've taken Greyhound before. It's a better idea to use Amtrak unless you're just going one or two states over. [06:55] matey no shit [06:56] DaemonFC Anyway, past my bedtime. [06:56] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [06:56] matey have fun [06:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 39.01 k/sec., IPFS upstream 91.10 average k/sec., average swarm size 386.55 [06:59] TR News #Techrights Bulletin for Tuesday, May 03, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext [06:59] TR Bot Bulletin Archives [06:59] TR News #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing [06:59] TR Bot Techrights Full IPFS Index ● May 04 [07:00] TR News elementary OS 7 Code Name Revealed. Here are the Details Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164449 [07:00] TR Bot elementary OS 7 Code Name Revealed. Here are the Details | Tux Machines [07:00] matey unix 6ht edition still didnt have stdio but it had been worked on [07:00] matey 6th even [07:03] matey named pipes were inspired by rand pipes [07:04] matey bsd started with unix version 6 [07:05] matey that was when (im not giving bsd the credit for this, bsd was an effect of this rather than a cause) things started getting ported and the unix family tree really started growing [07:05] matey mid 1970s [07:06] matey its also worth noting that even back then, ports and derivatives would feed fixes back to upstream [07:06] matey so all these people making use of version 6, many helped (a little) to create version 7 [07:07] TR News "I need a flipchart or a whiteboard while teaching" https://jpmens.net/2022/05/03/one-gotty-per-user/ | Source: Jan Piet Mens [07:07] TR Bot Jan-Piet Mens :: One gotty(1) Web terminal per user [07:07] TR News "A wide variety of media players are MPRIS-enabled and can be queried using the above command" https://yarmo.eu/blog/playerctl/ | Source: Yarmo Machenbach [07:07] TR Bot playerctl: get currently playing music [07:07] matey as for bsd, they received direct contributions from thompson and/or ritchie [07:07] matey i think thompson [07:08] TR News "I realize not everybodys going to ditch the Web and switch to Gemini or Gopher today" https://seirdy.one/2020/11/23/website-best-practices.html | Source: Rohan Kumar [07:08] TR Bot Best practices for inclusive textual websites - Seirdy [07:08] TR News "This is approximately as wise as taking off from Mars in a ragtop rocket, but dont worry, the math all checks out." https://flak.tedunangst.com/post/compiling-an-openbsd-kernel-50-faster | Source: Ted Unangst [07:08] TR Bot compiling an openbsd kernel 50% faster [07:08] TR News "syspatch71-001_wifi was somewhat broken (in terms of the housekeeping rather than the functionality of the patch)" https://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20220503072835 | Source: Undeadly [07:09] TR Bot syspatch71-001_wifi reissued [07:09] TR News "a few weeks ago we had an article describing how most people using ProtonDB have moved away from using Ubuntu" https://boilingsteam.com/the-fall-of-ubuntu-as-a-gaming-distro-in-video/ | Source: Boiling Steam [07:09] TR Bot The Fall of Ubuntu as a Gaming Distro in Video - Boiling Steam [07:10] TR News "Given how rapidly the security situation can change, and in light of the recent (and well-publicized) vulnerabilities" https://staceyoniot.com/industrial-software-is-a-prominent-target-what-should-we-do/ | Source: Stacy on IoT [07:10] TR Bot Industrial software is a prominent target. What should we do? - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysis [07:10] TR News "As you can imagine it's just gotten harder and harder to slide the the right holes." https://bkardell.com/blog/UAGottaBeKidding.html | [07:10] TR Bot UA gotta be kidding [07:11] TR News "When I left my React focused role behind I expected to find the transition hard, and miss what React had to offer" https://www.jackfranklin.co.uk/blog/working-with-react-and-the-web-platform/ | [07:11] TR Bot Why I don't miss React: a story about using the platform - Jack Franklin [07:11] matey when bell labs wasnt able to provide support for 6th edition, dennis ritchie accidentally left 50 or so patches on a tape that somehow got mailed to the university of delaware [07:11] matey this was during the big legal thing [07:12] TR News "There was a project announced this week that lets you write python scripts in HTML" https://matt-rickard.com/java-py-script/ | Source: Matt Rickard [07:12] TR Bot {Java,Py}Script [07:12] matey so this helped with a lot of support issues from the 6th edition [07:12] TR News "Samples taken from the girl's wounds were used to confirm that the animal that bit her had been killed" https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/dna-confirms-coyote-attacked-year-dead-84449964 | Source: ABC [07:12] TR Bot DNA confirms coyote that attacked 2-year-old is dead - ABC News [07:12] *goosestepping_ (~goosestepping@9ucczhkmm895g.irc) has joined #techrights [07:13] TR News "Researchers will work to deliver the first-ever optical communications from a 1U CubeSat" https://itwire.com/science-news/space/curtin-uni-teams-with-nasa-jpl-spin-off-chascii-in-spacecraft-optical-communications.html | Source: IT Wire [07:13] TR Bot - Curtin Uni teams with NASA JPL spin-off Chascii in spacecraft optical communications [07:16] TR News Kubernetes 1.24: Stargazer "We are excited to announce the release of Kubernetes 1.24, the first release of 2022!" https://kubernetes.io/blog/2022/05/03/kubernetes-1-24-release-announcement/ [07:16] TR Bot Kubernetes 1.24: Stargazer | Kubernetes [07:16] matey 7th edition came out in 1979 and was the one that got ported to the x86 [07:17] TR News At clownflare, the shilling increases https://www.techspot.com/news/94416-cloudflare-mitigated-one-most-powerful-ddos-attacks-ever.html [07:17] TR Bot just mitigated one of the most powerful DDoS attacks ever | TechSpot [07:17] TR News On decentralisationhttps://andregarzia.com/2022/05/working-on-a-new-book-four-decentralisation-protocols.html [07:19] matey this is the video that i learned sed 10q from [07:20] matey which still works on bsd but i dont think it did on gnu/linux (i tried it a year or so ago) [07:20] TR News The criminal uses a red herring to distract from Jeffrey Epstein https://www.nbcnews.com/now/video/bill-gates-opens-up-about-divorce-and-infidelity-accusations-139231813684 [07:20] TR Bot Bill Gates opens up about divorce and infidelity accusations [07:20] matey tail came first [07:20] matey people piped to sed 10q instead of head [07:20] TR News EU site still blocked by javascript https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/IP_22_2764 [07:20] TR Bot Press corner | European Commission [07:21] TR News It was long coming.... https://www.wsj.com/articles/grindr-user-data-has-been-for-sale-for-years-11651492800 WSL paywall [07:21] TR Bot User Data Was Sold Through Ad Networks - WSJ [07:21] TR News Muskian Stupidity, Market Cupidity - emptywheel https://www.emptywheel.net/2022/05/02/muskian-stupidity-market-cupidity/ Source: emptywheel [07:21] TR Bot Muskian Stupidity, Market Cupidity - emptywheel [07:21] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [07:22] matey job control (ctrl-z) was done at berkeley by bill joy based on work done at mit (by jim kulp) [07:23] TR News Editorial: The Belmarsh Tribunal is right Washington, not Assange, should be on trial | Morning Star https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/e/belmarsh-tribunal-right-washington-not-assange-should-be-trial Source: morningstaronline [07:23] TR Bot Editorial: The Belmarsh Tribunal is right Washington, not Assange, should be on trial | Morning Star [07:23] matey and bourne shell in v7 was the one that added inherited variables [07:23] activelow matey, weren't thompson and ritchie affiliates of berkeley university? [07:24] TR News Twitter https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=sv&tl=en&u=https://femtejuli.se/2022/05/03/varfor-lamnar-socialdemokraterna-twitter/ [07:24] TR Bot Varfr lmnar Socialdemokraterna Twitter? [07:24] TR News Government Collecting Everything You Do - neritam https://neritam.wordpress.com/2022/05/03/government-collecting-everything-you-do/ Source: neritam [07:24] TR Bot Government Collecting Everything You Do neritam [07:24] matey im not sure if thats where we got things like $PATH but it might be exactly that [07:24] TR News John Deere Remotely Disables Farm Equipment Stolen by Russians from Ukraine Dealership - SoylentNews https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/05/02/152234 Source: soylentnews [07:24] TR Bot John Deere Remotely Disables Farm Equipment Stolen by Russians from Ukraine Dealership - SoylentNews [07:25] TR News Conflicts of Interest in OSI Election - SoylentNews https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/05/03/047246 Source: soylentnews [07:25] TR Bot Conflicts of Interest in OSI Election - SoylentNews [07:25] matey 7th edition is when you could do pipelines in bourne shell [07:27] TR News "Business and government users on Twitter may need to pay a "slight" fee to stay on the social media platform" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-61303221 | Source: BBC [07:27] TR Bot Musk says Twitter may see 'slight cost' for businesses and governments - BBC News [07:28] TR News "The Russian hacking group behind the SolarWinds hack, Nobelium, is setting up new infrastructure" https://www.cyberscoop.com/solarwinds-recorded-future-nobelium-apt29/ | Source: Scoop News Group [07:28] TR Bot hackers set up phony media outlets to trick targets - CyberScoop [07:28] TR News "Last year we danced in court with a Patent Troll and they eventually backed off." https://www.sparkfun.com/news/4598 | Source: SparkFun Electronics [07:28] TR Bot Theft - News - SparkFun Electronics [07:29] matey a full build of venix system 7 on the dec rainbow takes about 15 hours to build [07:30] matey the rainbow had an 8086 and a z80-- two cpus [07:30] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@s44cwn8sugddy.irc) has joined #techrights [07:31] TR News "Felix Bolanos, a cabinet minister, told a news conference on Monday that the phones of Socialist Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez" https://today.rtl.lu/news/world/a/1907824.html | Source: RTL [07:31] TR Bot RTL Today - "We don't know who it is": Spanish government on defensive over spyware claims [07:31] TR News "So, instead of importing the public key from a keyserver, fetch it from the smartcard with the following commands" https://yarmo.eu/blog/gpg-import-from-smartcard/ | Source: Yarmo Machenbach [07:31] TR Bot GPG import public key from smartcard [07:33] matey note that all this information comes from freebsd people and mckusick was in the audience [07:34] TR News Clearview AI https://www.inc.com/steven-i-weiss/clearview-ai-facial-recognition-technology.html | Source: Mansueto Ventures [07:34] TR Bot Facial Recognition Technology Has an Uncertain Future with Small Business | Inc.com [07:34] matey im not a very big fan of freebsd itself but some of the people are legends [07:34] TR News "The report says the information has been for sale since at least 2017 and that historical data may still be obtainable." https://siliconangle.com/2022/05/02/grindr-user-location-data-reportedly-collected-sold/ | Source: Silicon Angle [07:34] TR Bot user location data was reportedly collected and sold - SiliconANGLE [07:37] *oarion7 has quit (Quit: Running IRC on a charmed medieval abacus.) [07:38] TR News "As in previous years, we dispatched a handful of our researchers and engineers to attend the conference" https://blog.trailofbits.com/2022/05/03/themes-from-real-world-crypto-2022/ | Source: Trail Of Bits [07:38] TR Bot Themes from Real World Crypto 2022 | Trail of Bits Blog [07:38] TR News "As a general rule, when people keep doing something wrong, they're actually right and your system is wrong." https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/sysadmin/MonitoringTooHard | Source: uni Toronto [07:38] TR Bot Chris's Wiki :: blog/sysadmin/MonitoringTooHard [07:42] *techrights_guest|21 (~5f5beece@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [07:43] matey ukranian buses have throw rug carpets on the floors [07:43] matey thats too awesome [07:44] matey and those frilly things on the windows, the genesis if which ive no idea [07:46] *techrights_guest|21 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [07:50] TR News "Scared of being left in the digital dust, private equity investors are stampeding towards crypto projects" https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/corporate-news/venture-capitalists-catch-crypto-fever/91285257 | Source: India Times [07:50] TR Bot crypto: Venture capitalists catch crypto fever, CIO News, ET CIO [07:51] TR News "If you told me you own all of the bitcoin in the world and you offered it to me for $25 I wouldnt take it because what would I do with it?" https://futurism.com/the-byte/warren-buffett-bitcoin-crypto-scam | Source: Futurism [07:51] TR Bot Warren Buffett Says He Wouldnt Buy All the Bitcoin in the World for $25 [07:51] TR News "Even bitcoin enthusiasts tend to regard the cryptocurrency as a passive asset that investors buy and hold and hope to see increase in price over a long period" https://www.cnbc.com/2022/04/30/warren-buffett-gives-his-most-expansive-explanation-for-why-he-doesnt-believe-in-bitcoin.html | Source: CNBC [07:51] TR Bot Warren Buffett gives his most expansive explanation for why he doesn't believe in bitcoin [07:51] TR News "Sri Lanka has run sizeable trade deficits for decades. As the debts matured, the years after 2020 were expected to see high levels of debt-servicing." https://qz.com/india/2161330/some-sri-lankans-invested-in-cryptocurrency-to-tackle-crisis/ | Source: Quartz [07:51] TR Bot Some Sri Lankans invested in cryptocurrency to tackle crisis Quartz India [07:52] TR News "The Wikimedia Foundation, the nonprofit that owns Wikipedia, said it will no longer accept cryptocurrency as a means of donating." https://www.cnet.com/personal-finance/crypto/wikipedia-set-to-stop-accepting-cryptocurrency-donations/ | Source: CNET [07:52] TR Bot Set to Stop Accepting Cryptocurrency Donations - CNET [07:52] *wallacer has quit (connection closed) [07:52] *wallacer (~quassel@6bsu33ajs4zs4.irc) has joined #techrights [07:52] TR News "US Securities and Exchange Commission recently have proposed amendments in Exchange act of 1934 with an objective of standardizing disclosures regarding cyber security risk management" https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/strategy-and-management/secs-proposed-cyber-disclosure-a-game-changer/91248278 | Source: India Times [07:53] TR Bot SECs proposed cyber disclosure: A game changer, CIO News, ET CIO [07:53] TR News "In a press release, the SEC cited a booming period for [cryptocurrency] markets and a corresponding responsibility to keep investors safe from the growing risk of fraudulent investment schemes." https://www.theverge.com/2022/5/3/23055499/sec-nearly-doubles-cryptocurrency-enforcement-unit | Source: The Verge [07:53] TR Bot SEC nearly doubles crypto enforcement unit, citing fraud risk in booming market - The Verge [07:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 28.78 k/sec., IPFS upstream 72.05 average k/sec., average swarm size 361.11 ● May 04 [08:05] *GNUmoon has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [08:06] TR News "Over the past few days, several independent news outlets and journalists have had their PayPal accounts abruptly canceled and their funds frozen by the company" https://jacobinmag.com/2022/05/paypal-independent-media-journalism-censorship-tech | Source: Jacobin Magazine [08:06] TR Bot PayPal Has Begun Quietly Shuttering Left-Wing Media Accounts [08:06] TR News "In a legal opinion for the campaign group Index on Censorship, Millar said that the bill would lead to algorithms deciding what people could say online" https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/online-safety-bill-threatens-rights-to-free-speech-claims-top-lawyer-g2fd585zs | Source: The Sunday Times UK [08:07] TR Bot Online Safety Bill threatens rights to free speech, claims top lawyer | News | The Times [08:07] *goosestepping_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [08:08] TR News "Spotifys plans for enhanced content moderation came to light in a report from the Irish Independent." https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2022/05/02/spotify-content-moderation-hires/ | Source: Digital Music News [08:08] TR Bot Spotify Pursues Content Moderation With Multiple 'Trust and Safety' Hires [08:08] TR News "To summarise, I define totalitarianism as a) the attempt to use the power of the state to dictate" https://www.devever.net/~hl/soctol | Source: Devever [08:09] TR News "Russia's invasion of Ukraine has contributed vastly to the spread of fake news and propaganda" https://www.voanews.com/a/press-freedom-advocacy-group-says-propaganda-a-global-threat-to-free-media/6554791.html | Source: VOA News [08:09] TR Bot Disinformation, Censorship, Trigger Global Retreat of Press Freedom [08:22] psydruid says Voice of America [08:28] TR News Deevgate in a Nutshell (an EPO Toxic Asset in Minsk) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/04/deevgate-in-a-nutshell-an-epo-toxic-asset-in-minsk/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/04/deevgate-in-a-nutshell-an-epo-toxic-asset-in-minsk/ [08:28] TR Bot Deevgate in a Nutshell (an EPO Toxic Asset in Minsk) | Techrights [08:37] *goosestepping_ (~goosestepping@9ucczhkmm895g.irc) has joined #techrights [08:42] TR News "the misuse of the extradition treaty which specifically prohibits political extradition" https://labouraffairs.com/2022/05/01/the-persecution-of-julian-assange-part-3/ | [08:42] TR Bot The Persecution of Julian Assange Part 3 Labour Affairs [08:44] activelow navigating www with a text-browser is somewhat flawed [08:44] activelow conceptually, by design [08:45] activelow nonetheless, w3m with sixels, better than nothing [08:47] TR News "The recent string of elections started in Bessemer, Alabama, when the Retail" https://www.theverge.com/2022/5/3/23056053/amazon-warehouse-union-organization-drives-latest-news | Source: The Verge [08:47] TR Bot The fight to unionize Amazons warehouses - The Verge [08:48] TR News "Voting will begin on June 2nd and end on June 4th." https://www.theverge.com/2022/5/3/23055452/apple-retail-store-atlanta-union-vote-date-set-june-cwa | Source: The Verge [08:48] TR Bot First US Apple Store union election set for June 2nd in Atlanta - The Verge [08:50] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [08:51] activelow year 2002, when i first installed a linux, RedHat 9 Desktop, this presented an already blurred vision of *nix [08:52] activelow resembling exactly what it shouldn't be, a consumer grade user interface tailored for comfort and little understanding [08:56] activelow even programs such as irssi or conceptually flawed, such as duplicating terminal multiplexing internally, when instead this functionality belongs into screen or tmux [08:56] activelow *are [08:56] TR News "other platforms do permit third parties to access NFC tech to make such payments" https://www.computerworld.com/article/3658858/eu-accuses-apple-of-market-abuse-with-nfc-and-apple-pay.html | Source: Computer World [08:56] TR Bot accuses Apple of market abuse with NFC and Apple Pay | Computerworld [08:56] -jess-[Global Notice] Good morning. A critical vulnerability in the Matrix IRC bridge has been patched, deployed, and disclosed (see https://matrix.org/blog/2022/05/04/0-34-0-security-release-for-matrix-appservice-irc-high-severity for details) and we will shortly be disconnecting all affected third party Matrix bridges we can find in the interest of protecting their users. [08:56] TR News "At issue is Apple Pay, a contactless-payment service introduced in 2014." https://www.economist.com/finance-and-economics/watchdogs-take-a-swipe-at-apple-pay/21809094 | Source: The Economist [08:56] TR Bot take a swipe at Apple Pay | The Economist [08:57] TR News "The EU Commission finding follows a months-long preliminary investigation." https://www.dw.com/en/eu-hits-apple-with-antitrust-charge-over-digital-wallet/a-61661965 | Source: Deutsche Welle [08:57] TR Bot hits Apple with antitrust charge over digital wallet | News | DW | 02.05.2022 [08:57] TR News "The Commission holds that Apple is restricting competition in the mobile wallets market on iOS by limiting access to NFC" https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/European-Union-Escalates-Antitrust-Case-Against-Apple-20220503-0005.html | Source: teleSUR [08:57] TR Bot NO TITLE [08:57] TR News "The Canadian government plans to extend the term of copyright from the international standard of life of the author plus 50 years to life plus 70 years" https://www.michaelgeist.ca/2022/04/the-canadian-government-makes-its-choice-implementation-of-copyright-term-extension-without-mitigating-against-the-harms/ | Source: Michael Geist [08:57] TR Bot The Canadian Government Makes its Choice: Implementation of Copyright Term Extension Without Mitigating Against the Harms - Michael Geist [08:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 17.35 k/sec., IPFS upstream 41.58 average k/sec., average swarm size 497.18 [08:59] activelow https://github.com/csdvrx/sixel-tmux/blob/main/RANTS.md [08:59] TR Bot at main csdvrx/sixel-tmux GitHub ● May 04 [09:00] TR News "false information" https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/05/03/influencing-fragile-minds | Source: Meduza [09:00] TR Bot NO TITLE [09:00] activelow "Bug reports tmux#1019 (comment) tmux#1502 (comment) mention serious issues, such as being unable to cat a long text file without some parts being cut off" [09:01] activelow didn't expect a fork of an OpenBSD-related project was necessary [09:04] activelow anyway, i made the decision, to remove gnu glib entirely too, and all dependencies [09:05] TR News "Claiming that criminals use encryption to stay anonymous, last year a parliamentary committee urged the Indian government to ban VPNs" https://torrentfreak.com/vpn-users-anonymity-under-threat-following-indian-security-order-220503/ | Source: Torrent Freak [09:05] TR Bot Users' Anonymity Under Threat Following Indian Security Order * TorrentFreak [09:05] TR News "Piracy [sic] is on the rise." https://torrentfreak.com/pirate-site-traffic-surges-with-help-from-manga-boom-220503/ | Source: Torrent Freak [09:05] TR Bot Site Traffic Surges With Help From Manga Boom * TorrentFreak [09:06] activelow for example, various tiny irc clients exist, which can be managed within a tmux session, instead of irssi duplicating terminal multiplexing [09:07] activelow by coincidence, irssi depends on... gnu glib, so, when wiping gnu glib irssi is gone [09:07] TR News "Ok, the title is a bit misleading. Like most things in life, it really isnt infinite." https://hackaday.com/2022/05/03/linux-fu-the-infinite-serial-port/ | Source: Hackaday [09:07] TR Bot Fu: The Infinite Serial Port | Hackaday [09:07] activelow next reasoning, ok, manage simple irc client terminals within tmux, yet see above what happened to it [09:07] activelow tmux needs forking [09:08] activelow didn't expect such an instability hitting an OpenBSD related component [09:08] activelow nonetheless, benefit of this, sixel support with tmux [09:09] activelow meaning, close to zero reliance on any X11 dependency anymore [09:09] activelow although, i'll keep X11, sort of a comfort zone [09:10] activelow another one, gnu glib... which is transmission supporting torrent [09:10] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #techrights [09:10] activelow this one is noteworthy too, torrent, either libtorrent pulls in c++ with various implementations, or transmission torrent which depends ... gnu glib which will be removed [09:11] activelow otherwise, there isn't any torrent client/server remaining written in C-only, without glib dependency; or long story short, besides irssi transmission torrent isn't available neither [09:12] activelow that's another two taken down, against GNU/GNOME/glib [09:12] activelow next is "midnight commander"... which i became accustomed too... yet again, GNU glib [09:13] TR News "Despite being a computer with some extra chips, synthesizers today are still quite expensive." https://hackaday.com/2022/05/03/patching-the-kurzweil-k2500-synthesizer/ | Source: Hackaday [09:13] TR Bot The Kurzweil K2500 Synthesizer | Hackaday [09:14] activelow ^ apropos... fluidsynth -> GNU glib ... timidity then, let's see [09:14] activelow an alternative to fluidsynth exists [09:15] activelow that's it mainly, and i do feel, strange, somehow, about GNU year 2020 [09:17] activelow suckless.org is pointing to, GNU, directly and indirectly; and it isn't "philosophical" nor "political" reasons to depart as far as possible [09:17] activelow it is _technical_ reasons [09:18] activelow and it isn't all components, although i couldn't dig into gnuplot peculiarities yet, for example [09:19] activelow anyway, tmux got ISC smeared onto, and many other stuff GPL [09:21] activelow "internet standards consortium" licensed tmux? ... and then we got this: https://github.com/csdvrx/sixel-tmux/blob/main/RANTS.md [09:21] TR Bot at main csdvrx/sixel-tmux GitHub [09:21] activelow https://github.com/tmux/tmux/issues/1502#issuecomment-429710887 [09:21] TR Bot passthrough of large data sequence Issue #1502 tmux/tmux GitHub [09:21] TR News "If youre a radiation enthusiast, chances are youve got a Geiger counter lying around somewhere" https://hackaday.com/2022/05/03/identify-radioactive-samples-with-this-diy-gamma-ray-spectrometer/ | Source: Hackaday [09:21] TR Bot Radioactive Samples With This DIY Gamma-Ray Spectrometer | Hackaday [09:23] TR News Cancel the patents https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/05/03/complete-garbage-campaigners-blast-wto-alternative-covid-patent-waiver | Source: Common Dreams [09:23] TR Bot 'Complete Garbage': Campaigners Blast WTO Alternative to Covid Patent Waiver [09:24] activelow btw. roughly at the time when german wings 9525 crashed into the alps mountains, a job offer arrived at my desk, to track licensing issues and such [09:25] activelow not interested, due to the typical "outsourcing" constructions involved [09:26] activelow my last official job, which generated some rudimentary income, german aerospace supplier, with the boss of this company connected to switzerland, airbus constructors, TU munich [09:26] activelow crazy... then some lunatic went amok in Munich, ordered a Glock [09:27] activelow then i was fired, little later IBM proposed to conduct an IQ test with me... said no thanks, response, ok you got the job if you relocate to munich... by phone [09:28] TR News "We are especially proud to present you Tails5.0, the first version of Tails based on Debian11 (Bullseye)." https://blog.torproject.org/new-release-tails-50/ | Source: Tor [09:28] TR Bot New Release: Tails 5.0 | The Tor Project [09:28] TR News "Tor Browser 11.0.11 is now available from the Tor Browser download page and also from our distribution directory" https://blog.torproject.org/new-release-tor-browser-11011/ | Source: Tor [09:28] TR Bot New Release: Tor Browser 11.0.11 (Windows, macOS, Linux) | The Tor Project [09:29] TR News New Release: Tails 5.0 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164428#comment-33538 [09:30] TR Bot Tails 5.0 Anonymous OS Officially Released, Based on Debian GNU/Linux 11 Bullseye | Tux Machines [09:30] activelow anyway, a typical GNU system with some tasks ... is ... less capable than a TI89 [09:31] activelow f(x)=x ... calculate data points... plot graph [09:32] activelow ok... for this task, with a gnu linux bsd whatever... when working from source, the software needs to be compiled... which requires 12hours or 24 round about [09:32] *activelow is scratching his head [09:32] activelow terminal opened... no sixel support... what is this? [09:33] activelow that's why, i began to appreciate, some gear and stuff from Texas Instruments [09:34] TR News IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, May 03, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/04/irc-log-030522/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/04/irc-log-030522/ [09:34] TR Bot IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, May 03, 2022 | Techrights [09:34] activelow the job offer to track licensing was from Airbus, almost missed it [09:35] activelow given in the realm of theirs... minimum acceptance criteria are slightly different, i think [09:35] activelow nonetheless, this is another misconception, aerospace or ISS were equipped with any different quality tech than ordinary consumer equipment [09:36] activelow if Linux kernel is *ff*** the so is windriver systems mars rover [09:36] activelow if *BSD is screwed, then is QNX [09:37] mjg59_ Not sure how that follows [09:41] activelow because a QNX isn't that different, compared to *BSD [09:42] activelow they got the *BSD packet filter, netbsd pkgsrc, whatever can be pulled into QNX realtime operating system [09:42] mjg59_ It's an extremely different kernel to *BSD [09:43] mjg59_ It was originally written from scratch [09:43] activelow i didn't dig further into QNX, although the employer got access to the sources [09:44] TR News "Baseball jokes aside, holograms have been a dream for decades" https://hackaday.com/2022/05/03/stop-motion-angels-in-the-light-field/ | Source: Hackaday [09:44] TR Bot Angels In The Light Field | Hackaday [09:44] activelow QNX is intersects with *BSD, without doubt [09:44] mjg59_ Intersects in what way [09:45] mjg59_ It's an entirely independent OS [09:45] TR News Amazon Union Organizers https://truthout.org/articles/biden-may-invite-starbucks-and-amazon-union-organizers-to-the-white-house/ | Source: TruthOut [09:45] TR Bot Biden May Invite Starbucks and Amazon Union Organizers to the White House [09:45] activelow some other, rumors in this case, were, WindowsCE was stuffed with GNU licensed [09:45] mjg59_ It's like saying Linux intersects with BSD [09:45] activelow of cause it does [09:45] matey sure [09:45] matey if ken thompson took time away from work to spend on helping linus write it [09:46] matey or if linus had started out as a series of patches to system 6... [09:46] matey s/linus/linux/ or, s/out/with/ [09:46] matey i mean it rewrote unix, but not from scratch [09:46] mjg59_ If all you're saying is that POSIX operating systems end up incorporating bits of userland from each other than that's not a surprising outcome? [09:47] mjg59_ But QNX is entirely architecturally different from BSD [09:47] mjg59_ It's a genuine microkernel and everything [09:47] matey you must be talking to ativelow [09:48] mjg59_ Oh yeah sorry [09:48] TR News [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D578.jpg [09:48] mjg59_ Not directed at you [09:48] TR News [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D221.jpg [09:48] matey rofl, its entirely my fault [09:48] matey im taking a break from activelow [09:49] matey i like some of his work, but im starting to think its a kind of... [09:49] matey lets call it a mixed bag [09:49] mjg59_ matey: activelow is trying to build an OS without understanding hardware, firmware or software [09:49] matey andy warhol was an artist. if he had been a developer that would have been interesting [09:50] matey i learned a lot about sixels though [09:50] activelow another one from the economic war: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Instruments_signing_key_controversy [09:50] TR Bot Texas Instruments signing key controversy - Wikipedia [09:50] matey or i might have dreamt it [09:50] matey the latter would make more sense [09:51] mjg59_ And understanding how all of these things interact is pretty important in figuring out how to actually support freedom [09:51] matey freedom requires truth [09:51] matey facts and contexts help tremendously with that [09:51] activelow the conclusion, concerning calculators... the TI series didn't meet acceptance criteria for use in schools and universities [09:51] matey without truth, freedom stands very little chance [09:52] activelow nonetheless, after 1990, ... cash funneled here and there, and this shit was approved in schools and universities in free state of saxony [09:52] matey activelows concept of history (i still admire some of what hes working on) reminds me of the google algorithms that dream and make up weird images covered in eyeballs [09:52] activelow sadly, i must say, we quit uranium mining there [09:53] activelow and the UFO airports are defunct... [09:53] mjg59_ matey: The goal of having complete freedom from silicon fabrication up is admirable [09:53] mjg59_ I agree that we shouldn't ignore hardware as part of this [09:53] matey so do i, i have been saying so since 2017 [09:54] matey and i was talking about fpgas before they were a thing [09:54] mjg59_ But making design decisions that are based on not understanding what modern hardware actually does is not helpful [09:54] mjg59_ Neon is not a replacement for GPU acceleration [09:55] matey well he compared 8 bit colour to 24 earlier [09:55] mjg59_ Yeah there was that too [09:55] activelow sixels are 7bit [09:55] matey and roy explained that at 100x times the number of pixels (which you get if you add his 6 monitors together, but not in a way thats relevant) you can hardly see the join [09:56] matey thats 100 times 320x200, while 1920x1080 is merely 32 times that [09:57] matey but 32 times 6 is 192, so [09:57] matey if you line up his screens just right and sit far enough away [09:57] matey then again [09:57] matey if you just sit REALLY FAR away from 8bit colour [09:58] mjg59_ sixels are a perfectly reasonable way to represent graphical content in a constrained resolution environment, with additional GPU overhead [09:58] mjg59_ Eh I guess additional CPU overhead, the GPU is still just scanning stuff out [09:59] mjg59_ You make the CPU render a bunch of stuff into graphics memory [09:59] matey at some point it crosses the line from research to performance art [09:59] mjg59_ Which means the CPU has less time to do anything else ● May 04 [10:00] mjg59_ When instead you could just pass commands to the GPU to render instead [10:01] matey what would impress me is if he found a way to bypass the buggy gpu on one of those piece of shit hp laptops and get it running despite itself [10:01] matey even if it was monochrome, id still be impressed [10:02] *forkbombe has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:02] matey i suspect its a firmware issue though [10:02] matey and since he doesnt do firmware (to the best of my knowledge) its sort of moot [10:03] activelow another irony, TempleOS shell, not only got vector graphics, it got realtime animated vector graphics... [10:03] matey imo if your gpu isnt working, it should just boot without that [10:03] matey or at least provide that option to the os [10:04] *GNUmoon2 has quit (connection closed) [10:05] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@x69gs6e5y4ynk.irc) has joined #techrights [10:05] activelow gigatron ttl too demonstrated it... realtime animated vector graphics [10:05] *activelow is staring at *nix command line [10:07] activelow nonetheless, with sixel support, at least, i got back what a Ti89 aleady had... computer algebra together with support for plotting graph [10:09] activelow anyway, the Nazi UFOs existed, really, the airport was located a few hundred meters away from my home, as a child [10:09] activelow after 1990, the airport was closed [10:10] activelow and the former Soviet aircraft hangars too [10:11] *activelow is torn apart metnally [10:11] activelow mentally [10:12] activelow a friend of mine, interested in avionics... didn't crash land with a glider, smashed into a train [10:12] activelow either this was some story made up by the CIA, or it's something else [10:13] activelow got some photos from the dismantled airports, which is why i am surprised, of accusations, of aggressions and whatnot [10:13] activelow there wasn't any [10:14] activelow as far as i can tell, east-germany dismantled [10:14] activelow and the entire bureaucratic/political/media apparatus is hijacked by loyal washington/redmond minions [10:15] activelow whe set the standards nowadays, which is what it is [10:15] activelow who [10:16] activelow the psycho-fuckery, after 1990, besides the economic war, was psychological war against the young generation of myself [10:17] *goosestepping_ has quit (Quit: Ping timeout: Over 9000!!!) [10:17] activelow both, the economic and psychological warfare, originating from... USA [10:17] activelow that's 30 years now [10:17] activelow i don't give it another decade [10:18] activelow i think, the difference was, existential crisis, if this isn't far away, a thousand miles [10:19] activelow instead grandfathers themselves pointed rocket launches and flak air defense against US and soviets [10:19] activelow then 1990 [10:20] activelow an epic propaganda campaign [10:20] activelow nowadays, i am asked to justify, whatever... [10:20] activelow some relatives were Stasi border guards, some others were the first to protest on the streets against it... that's not the point here [10:21] activelow so how should i respond to any accusation? [10:21] activelow for all i know, the graves and names are already gone [10:22] activelow if you can't afford to pay for the grave, it is removed quickly [10:22] activelow so, they wipe the entire history [10:23] activelow here is another thing, my grandmother, married my grandfather; the history behind the "racism" of this she was stunned by his southern appeal with dark eyes and dark hair [10:24] activelow this exact same grandfather, as a teenager, was ordered to flak air defense [10:24] activelow he hated east-german stasi [10:24] activelow later [10:24] activelow so do i [10:25] *goosestepping_ (~goosestepping@9ucczhkmm895g.irc) has joined #techrights [10:25] activelow so, i was born, with blond hair and blue eyes, my sister wasn't; one is designated "Nazi", the other one isn't... [10:26] activelow I, myself, do speak the original dialect, nonetheless i am lectured by those who don't [10:27] activelow they say what is german and what isn't; they say what is historical fact and what isn't; who was supposed to be a Nazi and who wasn't [10:27] activelow yet, they don't at least speak the language... so who is this? [10:27] activelow hence, i decided to study something non-political [10:29] activelow my grandfather gave me his hitler youth back pack and iron-spring expander for muscle training [10:30] activelow i carried this back pack, for almost 20 years, in school [10:30] activelow it was produced from "organic" materials, i would say [10:30] activelow olive green, haven't got it anymore [10:32] activelow my uncle, who served in france at big berta artillery, had given me some books, native americans [10:32] activelow which was another moment of clarity, to remember this [10:32] activelow which was, scientific books, of explorers, not some racist rubbish [10:32] activelow priceless books [10:33] activelow anyway, nowadays, it's all portrayed and framed into the usual narrative, as if some teenagers 70 years were responsible [10:34] activelow and they wipe all history and memory [10:34] activelow "code of conduct" [10:35] activelow in germany, the legislation is to sanction "defamation of deceased" [10:36] TR News Smartphones are good, actually gemini://tilde.town/~nihilazo/log/phone.gmi [10:37] TR News A Scarf is just an unfinished Afghan... gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~nristen/gemlog/20220503.gmi [10:38] TR News "You like OpenBSD? Then, I'm quite sure you can contribute to it! Let me explain the many ways your skills can be used to improve the project and contribute back." gemini://perso.pw/blog/articles/contributing-to-openbsd.gmi [10:39] TR News The legality of double slashes in URIs gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/2022/05/03.2 [10:40] TR News I'm hoping this is a joke, because if it's not, I'm not sure what that says about our society gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/2022/05/03.1 [10:41] TR News "Okay, one more post thats vaguely on the topic of free speech, and then I promise Im done for a while." gemini://degrowther.smol.pub/20220503_free_speech_again [10:42] TR News The path through prose gemini://idiomdrottning.org/path-through-prose [10:43] TR News "When you need a super-zoomed out view, left and right is fine. Thats how I feel about the many political camps. A lot of the time, we need more nuance, and thats great, too. Its fine to discuss topics, both separately and in the context of larger frameworks." gemini://idiomdrottning.org/political-label [10:48] TR News Creative Commons "welcome Nate Angell as our new Director of Communications and Community" https://creativecommons.org/2022/05/03/cc-welcomes-nate-angell/ [10:48] TR Bot CC welcomes Nate Angell - Creative Commons [10:52] TR News On retrocomputing and cyberdecks https://hackaday.com/2022/05/03/designing-for-the-small-grey-screen/ | Source: Hackaday [10:52] TR Bot For The Small Grey Screen | Hackaday [10:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 24.83 k/sec., IPFS upstream 11.73 average k/sec., average swarm size 466.50 ● May 04 [11:12] TR News Why is EFF trying to boost and save BAD things???? "LISTEN ONYOUTUBE [...] How to Prevent Twitter from Going the Way of the Dodo" https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/05/digital-rights-updates-effector-343 | Source: EFF [11:12] TR Bot Digital Rights Updates with EFFector 34.3 | Electronic Frontier Foundation [11:13] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@2zmw9s63d4rea.irc) has joined #techrights [11:14] DaemonFC https://www.npr.org/2022/05/03/1095909869/starbucks-union-ceo-howard-schultz-workers-united-labor-benefits [11:14] TR Bot Starbucks announces new benefits but only for stores that aren't organizing : NPR [11:15] DaemonFC The company can't even give a COLA raise to stores that have unionized or are in the process of deciding on one because they have to negotiate a contract. [11:15] TR News EFF 'activism': aiming very, very low [11:15] DaemonFC So pretty much the only thing the union has done for them so far is prevent a pay raise. [11:17] matey lol, COLA [11:18] matey the reason we are both here [11:19] matey techrights is a spinoff of comp.os.linux.advocacy [11:19] matey cola [11:20] schestowitz-TR matey: interesting statement [11:20] matey oh its flattery [11:20] schestowitz-TR not provocative, as it is partly true [11:20] matey but not intentional [11:20] schestowitz-TR some of the early people here came from COLA [11:20] matey where did they go [11:20] schestowitz-TR you can still see that in published logs [11:20] matey ive seen most of the website [11:20] schestowitz-TR matey: I'm still in touch with some, even this year [11:21] matey im most curious about shane [11:21] matey but ive said that already [11:21] matey i dont think he had the same level of ambition [11:21] matey bn was a project, not a vocation [11:21] schestowitz-TR there must have been two dozen in and our over time [11:21] matey keith is my favourite [11:21] schestowitz-TR both irc and usenet have waned since 2006 [11:21] schestowitz-TR yes, keith is awesome [11:21] matey though his javascript is an abomination, his writing is excellent [11:21] schestowitz-TR his site is still going, so you know he's ok [11:22] schestowitz-TR [H]omer aka Slated(.org) [11:22] schestowitz-TR is [H]ardOCP still going? [11:22] schestowitz-TR I've not seen it in years! [11:22] schestowitz-TR Fedora is dying [11:23] schestowitz-TR he sank a lot of work into Fedora Core [11:23] matey i wont miss fedora [11:23] matey i wouldnt miss red hat, though its clear fedora was the least shit part of it [11:23] schestowitz-TR part of the issue is related to form factors [11:23] schestowitz-TR fedora is not a mobile OS [11:24] matey no, its bleeding edge [11:24] schestowitz-TR it's not for touchscreen, gnome did have some netbook slant and plasma mobile are not a fedora thing [11:24] matey empahsis on bleeding [11:24] schestowitz-TR in fedora 14 you could run the mobile alternatives [11:24] schestowitz-TR but android dominates it now, sailfish and tizen didn't catch on much [11:24] matey thats like being dominated by smurfs [11:25] schestowitz-TR if fedora does not bleed, how will ICBM detect bugs? [11:25] matey but some evil corporate variety of-- pretty much the opposite of what smurfs are like [11:25] matey if it bleeds, it leads (a path to destruction) [11:25] matey dod seems to like it, so they enjoy the bleeding part [11:26] matey now its a bloody mess [11:26] matey im not against war per say, im against profiteering [11:26] matey i was always against wars for profit [11:26] matey per se [11:26] TR News EFF doing buzzwords and fluff. HEY HI. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/05/podcast-episode-teaching-ai-its-targets | Source: EFF [11:26] TR Bot Podcast Episode: Teaching AI to Its Targets | Electronic Frontier Foundation [11:27] matey anyway, i try to think of a tech writer i find more inspirational than keith [11:27] matey lessig probably, if talking were the same thing as writing [11:28] matey but as a writer, i prefer lessig when hes talking [11:28] matey he does good talks [11:28] matey the slides are annoying but the minimalism is okay [11:28] matey ill take lessigs slides over keiths javascript but theyre both inspiring [11:29] matey he should really fix that [11:29] matey its not his use that bothers me, its his abuse [11:29] matey but im sure if anyone was going to get through to him they would have already done so [11:29] matey i still admire his work [11:30] matey ive spent too much time hunting down an archived copy of his best two articles that doesnt have the javashit on it [11:31] matey but there no alternative to those articles. one is about jono bacon. but its about so much more than just (jono) bacon [11:31] matey open source has some real slimeballs [11:32] matey jono bacon could take credit for inventing the code of conduct [11:32] matey im not sure hes earned it, but its plausible enough [11:32] schestowitz-TR what is lessig doing now? [11:32] schestowitz-TR does he still work for musk? [11:32] matey still trying to save the world [11:33] matey musk? i dont think he ever did [11:33] matey maybe he collaborated. even that would be sad. [11:33] schestowitz-TR I think he tweets [11:33] schestowitz-TR \ [11:33] matey lots of people tweet [11:33] schestowitz-TR he retweeted me a few times [11:33] matey i sent him a copy of an article i wrote for you [11:33] schestowitz-TR matey: yes, musk has many employees now [11:33] matey about the constitution [11:33] schestowitz-TR employees might be the wrong term [11:34] schestowitz-TR slaves or serfs [11:34] schestowitz-TR sharecropping [11:34] schestowitz-TR he's accustomed to it [11:34] matey pcmag: Harvard Professor Lawrence Lessig discusses digital privacy, running for President, and why he agrees with Elon Musk about artificial intelligence. By Dan Costa January 29, 2018 My guest for this... [11:34] schestowitz-TR his family made money off the locals, stealing the land's natural resources [11:34] matey yeah employee implies he has musk as a boss [11:34] matey thats not lessig [11:34] matey he has harvard as a boss, sadly [11:35] schestowitz-TR musk is in control of his public accountg [11:35] schestowitz-TR not boss in the classic sense [11:35] matey thats a stretch [11:35] schestowitz-TR time will tell [11:35] schestowitz-TR now they want to charge twitter useds [11:35] matey www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jan/13/lawrence-lessig-harvard-law-professor-sues-new-yor/ 2020-01-13 [11:35] matey In the lawsuit, Lessig's attorney says The Times published a "sensationalized, false and defamatory 'clickbait' headline and lede," USA Today reported. The story's headline reads, "A Harvard... [11:35] schestowitz-TR if they are businesses [11:35] schestowitz-TR so you know it is going downhill [11:35] schestowitz-TR twitter operates at a loss already [11:36] matey good [11:36] schestowitz-TR yup [11:36] matey but so many things do [11:36] matey walmart is famous for it [11:36] matey theyre still here [11:36] schestowitz-TR also, I checked this morning "analystics" for first time in 2 weeks [11:36] schestowitz-TR twitter is faking traffic [11:36] schestowitz-TR when musk entered the board it all quadrupled for no reason [11:36] schestowitz-TR to inflate the value of the company was my guess... [11:36] schestowitz-TR I did a video showing this [11:37] matey no idea what this is [11:37] matey uxdesign.cc/i-made-a-prototype-elon-musk-didnt-like-it-then-the-internet-went-nuts-9cef407ec686 [11:37] matey It was written about in Inc. Magazine. Even former presidential candidate Lawrence Lessig weighed in. The prevailing sentiment: "Automation should assist users, not tell them what they get." A sampling of reactions to Elon's response from Tesla fans in the TeslaLounge subreddit. [11:37] schestowitz-TR then, a week later, he bought it [11:37] matey then, a week later, he bought it [11:37] matey i did say it would become a vanity project [11:37] schestowitz-TR yes, exactly [11:37] schestowitz-TR like a "pet" [11:37] schestowitz-TR like omidyar with the intercept [11:37] matey and youre probably right about him fucking with stocks [11:37] schestowitz-TR and snowden leaks [11:38] schestowitz-TR omidyar bought then and then buried the team studying them [11:38] matey but thats more to do with being the richest person on earth than twitter [11:38] matey i mean, im not saying twitter isnt a factor [11:38] matey he will own the brand, not just a microblog [11:38] schestowitz-TR the whole market is a giant cheat [11:38] matey anybody can own a microblog [11:38] schestowitz-TR "smart" and all [11:38] matey capitalism itself is a cheat [11:38] schestowitz-TR "smart" = shrewd = knows how to cheat and get away with it [11:39] schestowitz-TR microblog is a black hole [11:39] matey i dont hate musk for being the richest person on earth [11:39] matey thank fuck its not ballmer [11:39] schestowitz-TR it's very expensive to operate, esp. when you get many users [11:39] schestowitz-TR then you become babysitter/moderator [11:39] matey im not a fan of musk either [11:39] schestowitz-TR I think it burned out ari4dne [11:39] matey for the richest person on earth, hes such a tool [11:39] matey I think it burned out ari4dne <- i think shes good at finding "better shit to do" [11:40] matey this isnt sarcasm [11:40] matey shes good at priorities [11:40] matey the world might burn her out [11:40] matey a microblog wont [11:41] matey shes chaotic neutral [11:41] matey she wont burn out from a project [11:41] matey not a single one anyway [11:42] schestowitz-TR later on href killed off pleroma.site [11:42] schestowitz-TR after a hardware failure [11:42] matey meh [11:42] schestowitz-TR he had backups [11:42] schestowitz-TR but did not use them [11:42] matey the whole fediverse is rot [11:42] schestowitz-TR let me show you something [11:42] schestowitz-TR bear with me... [11:42] schestowitz-TR as I forgot the URL [11:42] schestowitz-TR it'll show you the death of all this decent/foss/federates bubble [11:43] schestowitz-TR *federated [11:43] matey given what it could have been... [11:43] schestowitz-TR I did this analysis earlier this year as I had assessed leaving everything behind [11:43] matey the fediverse is more ridiculous than twitter [11:43] matey you know this is not an endorsement of either [11:44] matey at least the fediverse doesnt demand your fucking phone number (only a bit of your soul) [11:44] schestowitz https://the-federation.info/node/diasp.de [11:44] TR Bot the federation - a statistics hub [11:44] schestowitz 11743 [11:44] matey jason whatshisface [11:44] schestowitz Users [11:44] schestowitz 93 [11:44] schestowitz Monthly users [11:44] schestowitz many pods are like that [11:44] schestowitz with maybe 1% of the users active [11:44] schestowitz the rest are just archives [11:45] matey the fediverse can be salvaged only by failure [11:45] schestowitz expensive and time-intensive to maintain [11:45] matey thats a flowery way of saying it doesnt scale for shit [11:45] schestowitz https://the-federation.info/ [11:45] TR Bot the federation - a statistics hub [11:45] schestowitz "This project is in low maintenance mode. Consider becoming a contributor to help change this! Potential ownership transfer possible." [11:45] schestowitz Even this very site is being thrown over the fence [11:45] matey translation: father, please take this cup [11:46] schestowitz 1. look under Projects [11:46] schestowitz 2. then study activity over time [11:46] DaemonFC https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/05/04/location-tracking-company-selling-data-on-smartphone-users-who-visit-abortion-clinics/ [11:46] TR Bot Location tracking company selling data on smartphone users who visit abortion clinics. BaronHK's Rants [11:46] schestowitz you see it's flatlining towards 0 [11:46] matey wow [11:46] matey selling to whom [11:46] matey who buys that? [11:46] DaemonFC Anyone who wants to buy it. [11:46] matey well yeah [11:47] DaemonFC Vice bought some for the article. [11:47] schestowitz DaemonFC: grindr selling data now [11:47] schestowitz that's your data, too [11:47] schestowitz and all your chats, who you met, where you walked [11:47] matey god forbid someone should see dfc chatting :) [11:48] matey its hard to worry about grindr doing it when everyone else does too [11:48] matey but i get it, sex is sacred (but not really sacred on grindr) [11:48] schestowitz-TR matey: date-chatting by DaemonFC would be even more daring than in IRC [11:48] matey dont get me wrong, i refuse to date via an app [11:48] schestowitz-TR I don't want to even imagine.. [11:48] matey if i need google to get me laid id rather be celibate [11:49] matey well youre a prude, if i caught a glimpse of ryan chatting someone up im sure itd be good for a laugh [11:49] matey and i guess all three of us like asians [11:49] schestowitz https://the-federation.info/ [11:49] TR Bot the federation - a statistics hub [11:49] schestowitz Go to Charts [11:49] schestowitz Total Users [11:49] matey though i married a white girl (the first time at least) [11:49] schestowitz see how the line falls every now and then [11:49] schestowitz as instances shut down [11:49] schestowitz there is no overall growth, or barely [11:49] matey i mean youre preaching to the choir on this [11:49] schestowitz and that also counts inactive/stale accounts [11:49] matey i know its a sham [11:50] DaemonFC There's probably a lot of my chats telling the undercover cops to fuck off and take their ridiculously obvious profiles and pictures of cocaine with them. [11:50] matey it has been for... oh, since the only decent dev "killed himself" [11:50] schestowitz now click Active users ratio [11:50] matey or killed himself [11:50] schestowitz I cannot link to it, it's JS "app" (terrible) [11:50] schestowitz it's not a page but rendered data [11:50] schestowitz not rendered once, offline, but using up people's CPU over and over again [11:50] matey /me has never snorted coke off a cops weiner, and never plans to [11:50] DaemonFC "The coke is a lie! The coke is a lie!!!!!" [11:51] *barto (~barto@2q7w2pvruanrn.irc) has joined #techrights [11:51] DaemonFC :) [11:51] barto greetings [11:51] matey i once turned down an amazing woman because her SON was a cop [11:51] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [11:51] matey also im not into hard drugs [11:51] matey i mean real life is weird enough on its own [11:51] matey hi barto [11:51] DaemonFC Yeah, I wouldn't want to be closely affiliated with anyone whose family was in law enforcement. [11:51] schestowitz https://the-federation.info/diaspora [11:51] TR Bot the federation - a statistics hub [11:51] DaemonFC Imagine holiday dinners and stuff. [11:52] DaemonFC You let the police in because it's your brother-in-law. [11:52] schestowitz Users: 822088 [11:52] schestowitz Last 6 months users: 30393 [11:52] schestowitz Last month users: 8825 [11:52] DaemonFC He sees something. You're arrested for Christmas. [11:52] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #techrights [11:52] schestowitz only 1 in 100 registered users if active [11:52] matey last time i was looking for a place, i found a state trooper lived there [11:52] schestowitz so for each user on the network you have to maintain data, inc. images, for 99 more people [11:52] matey "oh, and it has wifi. ill see if theres a motel." [11:52] DaemonFC There's too many apartments on the market to get one where the cops are living next door. [11:52] matey or in the same house. [11:53] matey "so you didnt get the place?" [11:53] DaemonFC I don't think anyone should want that level of scrutiny. It's bad enough if they even notice you at all. [11:53] matey "no, i took the one with the room directly between a blood and a crip instead" [11:53] schestowitz click "active users ratio " and you will see it is getting worse, not better, over time [11:53] matey "hopefully the walls are thick enough" [11:54] schestowitz at some point it could be 1 in 500 users being active [11:54] schestowitz in joindiaspora it reached about 1 in 600! [11:54] matey thats assuming the instance is even online [11:54] DaemonFC People seem to be quickly figuring out that "social" media doesn't matter. [11:54] matey its a miracle there are more than 6 [11:54] matey its not social and its not media [11:54] DaemonFC Facebook is a liability, not an asset. The cops love Facebook. [11:54] matey its the grape nuts of the internet [11:54] DaemonFC It's a confessional booth. [11:55] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2022/05/01/social-control-media-implosion/http://techrights.org/2022/02/10/social-control-media-bubbles/ [11:55] TR Bot Social Control Media is a Bubble and JoinDiaspora Might be the Next Casualty | Techrights [11:55] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2022/02/10/social-control-media-bubbles/ http://techrights.org/2022/05/01/social-control-media-implosion/ [11:55] TR Bot Dont Become or Remain a Slave of Elon Musk (Social Control Media is Still a Bubble) | Techrights [11:55] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: employers also love FB [11:55] schestowitz-TR more reasons to fire you [11:55] schestowitz-TR even on "sick leave" days [11:55] schestowitz-TR and for your views on things [11:55] schestowitz-TR we published about this only hours ago [11:56] schestowitz-TR [08:28] Deevgate in a Nutshell (an EPO Toxic Asset in Minsk) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/04/deevgate-in-a-nutshell-an-epo-toxic-asset-in-minsk/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/04/deevgate-in-a-nutshell-an-epo-toxic-asset-in-minsk/ [11:56] TR Bot Deevgate in a Nutshell (an EPO Toxic Asset in Minsk) | Techrights [11:56] DaemonFC *calls off* *checks in at the mall* [11:56] schestowitz-TR [01:02] The EPOs outsourcing to Belarus should leave Antnio Campinos a little shy of association in spite of the comment he made back in March http://techrights.org/2022/05/03/alexander-deev-blunder/ [11:56] TR Bot From Belarus With Love Part XII: Alexander Deevs Provocative Comments | Techrights [11:57] DaemonFC It's like my uncle said. [11:57] schestowitz-TR [11:54] People seem to be quickly figuring out that "social" media doesn't matter. [11:57] schestowitz-TR the platforms fake their importanace [11:57] DaemonFC People go to work when they're sick. They call off when they'd just rather be doing something else. [11:57] schestowitz-TR for FOMO [11:57] schestowitz-TR a false sense that they drive traffic [11:57] schestowitz-TR even gulagtube does it [11:57] schestowitz-TR with "happy stories" or stenography in the media [11:58] DaemonFC $48 billion to buy a microblogging platform.... [11:58] schestowitz-TR the media which boosts this perception that "be there or be square" [11:58] DaemonFC Yeah, this isn't a bubble at all. [11:58] schestowitz-TR twitter and FB both fake engagements [sic] [11:58] schestowitz-TR Twitter was sued by shareholders and lost [11:58] schestowitz-TR FB also faked number of video views [11:58] DaemonFC You know, when Twitter stock crashes, at least it'll be Musk holding the bag. [11:58] DaemonFC All because it amused him to use it for his shitposting and to allow the trolls back on. [11:59] matey i doubt he considers it that sort of investment [11:59] schestowitz-TR WHICH OPERATES AT A LOSS ---> [11:58] $48 billion to buy a microblogging platform.... [11:59] matey both of you (mostly roy) underestimate how many things are purchased with INTENT to kill them off [11:59] schestowitz-TR [07:27] "Business and government users on Twitter may need to pay a "slight" fee to stay on the social media platform" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-61303221 | Source: BBC [11:59] TR Bot Musk says Twitter may see 'slight cost' for businesses and governments - BBC News [11:59] matey even though roy is perfectly aware that happens [11:59] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, If you're not working at or buying shares of a company that's in San Francisco and taking on losses, you don't "get it". ● May 04 [12:00] DaemonFC mjg59_ lives there, so he "gets it". [12:00] schestowitz-TR I am already loving it, he'll kill it a lot faster then i thought possible [12:00] matey though i dont think thats why musk is buying twitter [12:00] matey he might kill it [12:00] TR News Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Corel MindManager Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164450 [12:00] TR Bot Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Corel MindManager | Tux Machines [12:00] matey maybe hes only buying it to show up mark zuckerberg in the rap battle of history [12:01] matey "when im conquoring myspace... its actual SPACE, man!" [12:01] schestowitz-TR [11:59] both of you (mostly roy) underestimate how many things are purchased with INTENT to kill them off [12:01] schestowitz-TR no, this is discussed every week in #boycottnovell [12:01] schestowitz-TR that's also the story of novell [12:01] schestowitz-TR and what happened to it [12:01] matey indeed [12:02] schestowitz-TR last week I got my full twitter archive (final), over 5gb zip file [12:02] DaemonFC What happened with Novell was so eyebrow raising that the government even got involved to try to limit the potential of their patents to cause harm. [12:02] matey leave it to you to create 5gb, 140 characters at a time [12:03] DaemonFC He wrote an operating system in brainfuck. [12:03] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:03] DaemonFC Posted it as a series of tweets. [12:03] DaemonFC It came along nicely, especially the ports of systemd and GNOME. [12:04] matey 5gb divided by 140 is 38(point 3) million tweets [12:04] DaemonFC It bypassed GitHub and people can just quote the source code by embedding the tweets one by one unless they disappear. [12:04] matey id flag that as spam, too [12:05] matey how old is the account? [12:05] schestowitz-TR I did not extract that, but I believe it contains images too [12:05] schestowitz-TR the old archives were a lot smaller [12:05] matey oh good point [12:05] schestowitz-TR like 100mb [12:05] matey i didnt think youd tweeted 38 million times, not even with a bot [12:06] matey but your concept of a bot is different :) you use mouse macros i think, so its sort of like how people "bend the rules" while gaming [12:07] matey ive seen some crazy tricks, the lengths people go to [12:08] DaemonFC Every program should be neutral to existing toolkits and abstraction layers by reimplementing everything for itself with all new bugs. [12:08] DaemonFC Like LightDM does, and like BtrFS did. [12:08] matey what exactly did lightdm do? [12:08] DaemonFC Your project is much too special for "generic" code and "shortcuts", and shouldn't integrate well with anything. [12:08] matey besides the obvious and primary feature [12:09] matey Your project is much too special for "generic" code and "shortcuts", and shouldn't integrate well with anything. <- i think they integrated with systemdaddy just fine, but devuan may have found an older version [12:09] DaemonFC They had this idea of a generic X11 display manager. Unfortunately, it worked out a lot like SDDM which is pretty bad. [12:09] DaemonFC SDDM is worse though. [12:10] DaemonFC It doesn't integrate with anything and I think it even has Qt dependencies anyway. [12:10] matey the bsd version of sddm is called, appropriately enough, BDSM [12:10] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@s44cwn8sugddy.irc) has joined #techrights [12:10] matey /me made it up [12:10] DaemonFC True story, there is a museum for BDSM about a block from where I lived in Chicago. [12:10] DaemonFC It's free on Thursdays. [12:11] matey hey, i used to live down the street from some *cough* "club" that uh. *cough* [12:11] DaemonFC Chicago has a city holiday every year to celebrate the museum on BDSM. [12:11] matey nice! [12:11] TR News Copyright https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/03/bungie-loses-on-copyright-claims-against-cheat-seller/ | Source: Techdirt [12:11] TR Bot Loses On Copyright Claims Against Cheat Seller | Techdirt [12:11] matey im sure its all tied up in local politics :) [12:11] matey yuk yuk yuk [12:11] TR News Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164451 [12:11] TR Bot Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [12:12] DaemonFC Yeah, they were going to have a safe word but they got distracted by all the shootings and never agreed on one. [12:12] matey lol [12:12] matey too bad the economy doesnt have a safe word [12:13] DaemonFC There was a guy that got gunned down on Monday about a block away from the shop where my Buick is parked at. [12:13] DaemonFC I hope they get that into the body shop soon. If someone fucks up my car I'm going to be mad. [12:13] DaemonFC 20 bullets hit the guy's car, but at least it was a BMW and spared the house that's going to have to be around for a while. [12:13] DaemonFC MinceR, ^ [12:14] matey getting shot might put a bmw out of its misery [12:14] DaemonFC https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/05/03/man-injured-during-shooting-that-left-car-riddled-with-bullets-in-waukegan/ [12:14] TR Bot Man injured during shooting that left car riddled with bullets in Waukegan [12:14] DaemonFC It adds flair. [12:14] matey they should do that to reddit too [12:15] DaemonFC By the time it could possibly rust, it won't matter anyway. [12:15] DaemonFC BMW puts German steam engines in every car. I'm convinced that they run on steam, at least. [12:15] TR News Firefox 100 Marks 17 Years of Development with Interesting Upgrades http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164392#comment-33539 [12:15] TR Bot Firefox 100 Is Now Available for Download, Enables GTK Overlay Scrollbars on Linux | Tux Machines [12:15] matey lol [12:15] DaemonFC Once the steam comes out from under the hood, the car doesn't work anymore. [12:15] matey their owners do [12:15] matey its like magic smoke except the steamyuppie version [12:16] matey steamyuppies are like steampunks but they have slightly more expensive taste [12:16] DaemonFC You can tell it was engineered to fail on schedule. What other reason could there be to make the coolant reservoir two pieces sandwiched together except that the plastic will fatigue at the narrowest point, and then crack? [12:17] matey they tend to carry around a little dog in a purse, but the purse is made of brown leather with rivets and the dog is wearing black goggles [12:17] DaemonFC It's like an hourglass. The plastic wears out as the payments go in. [12:17] matey What other reason could there be to make the coolant reservoir two pieces sandwiched together except that the plastic will fatigue at the narrowest point, and then crack? <- maybe they were hoping on a joint venture with steve jobs [12:17] matey it sounds like something he would do [12:19] matey seriously though [12:19] matey the reason they would do that is it looked less cool somewhere that made sense [12:20] matey this is what happens when you make cars and computers using the same rules as a designer dress or purse [12:20] TR News Axzez equips 8 port PoE+ board to their Interceptor Raspberry Pi CM4 carrier board Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164452 [12:20] TR Bot Axzez equips 8 port PoE+ board to their Interceptor Raspberry Pi CM4 carrier board | Tux Machines [12:20] DaemonFC Most newer cars look like that. There's absolutely no room between any of the components anymore. [12:21] DaemonFC Everything is buried under something else. [12:21] matey but id rather have a road full of bmws than a bunch of sensible cars and one audi, so [12:21] DaemonFC The whole point is to get the labor hours up on every job so that the owner quickly gives up on it after their first few repair bills. [12:21] matey Everything is buried under something else. <- like when you have to remove the keyboard to get to a laptop hard drive [12:21] matey and hooray theres a ribbon cable [12:21] matey and for some reason [12:22] matey for some fucking reason [12:22] matey even though those cables are about half a micron in thickness [12:22] matey and often folded anyway [12:22] DaemonFC It's amazing how Barra talked Warren Buffett into a new Cadillac. [12:22] matey they cant spare the materials to make the length manageable [12:22] DaemonFC They improved "50" things. Oh wow. I didn't see any. [12:22] matey they always have to make sure theres no more than 1 mm of slack on them [12:22] DaemonFC They made the engine half as big and started building the car in Mexico. [12:22] DaemonFC What are the other 48? [12:23] matey They made the engine half as big and started building the car in Mexico. <- [12:23] matey /me pictures a bmw logo that says "nafta" instead [12:24] matey i know youre talking about a cadillac [12:24] DaemonFC You can't really improve the fuel economy that much with a smaller engine if you don't want the car to be unresponsive. The whole reason they cut the engines down to four cylinders is to save themselves money on material costs. [12:24] DaemonFC The fact that the engine will be strained to move the car is just a happy side effect. It'll burn itself out pretty fast and then you're back buying another car. [12:24] matey its a slippery slope [12:24] TR News American Dream During Covid https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/homeownership-covid-pandemic/ | Source: The Nation [12:24] TR Bot Homeownership and the American Dream During Covid | The Nation [12:25] matey theyll end up with a luxury lada [12:25] matey its got power windows and steering [12:25] matey not power steering [12:25] matey i mean this one you can move the car in directions other than straight ahead [12:26] TR News "Courthouse News Service, as its name would imply, relies heavily on court documents to create content." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/03/appeals-court-revives-first-amendment-lawsuit-against-maines-court-system/ | Source: Techdirt [12:26] TR Bot Court Revives First Amendment Lawsuit Against Maines Court System | Techdirt [12:27] matey jeremy clarkson could barely contain himself [12:27] matey i mean thats true in general [12:29] DaemonFC https://twitter.com/peterwsinger/status/1440326845530992640?lang=en [12:29] TR Bot The new Space Force uniform A blend of the Star Trek Enterprise dress uniform, but with the Mirror Universe diago https://t.co/hvrpleQHcH [12:29] TR Bot The new Space Force uniform A blend of the Star Trek Enterprise dress uniform, but with the Mirror Universe diago https://t.co/hvrpleQHcH [12:30] TR News Musk will kill Twitter, maybe deliberately too https://www.thenation.com/article/society/we-cannot-rely-on-billionaires-to-create-necessary-guardrails-on-social-media/ | Source: The Nation [12:30] TR Bot We Cannot Rely on Billionaires to Create Necessary Guardrails on Social Media | The Nation [12:30] DaemonFC Makes you wonder why every dystopian universe or timeline in Star Trek, they're wearing a Sam Brown Belt. [12:30] DaemonFC When did those become evil and why? [12:30] TR News "Elon Musks Starlink low-orbit satellite broadband service isnt going to have the impact many think" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/03/elon-musks-starlink-still-cant-seem-to-answer-basic-customer-support-emails/ | Source: Techdirt [12:30] TR Bot Musks Starlink Still Cant Seem To Answer Basic Customer Support Emails | Techdirt [12:30] DaemonFC *Browne [12:31] DaemonFC Like, are the Royal Canadian Mounted Police going to become the military of the Terran Empire or Confederation of Earth. [12:31] DaemonFC Or is it the New Jersey State Highway Patrol? [12:32] TR News "Eight years ago, prompted by the Snowden revelations (and Senator Ron Wydens persistent questions)" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/03/national-intelligence-report-shows-fbi-warrantlessly-searched-americans-data-millions-of-times-last-year/ | Source: Techdirt [12:32] TR Bot Intelligence Report Shows FBI Warrantlessly Searched Americans Data Millions Of Times Last Year | Techdirt [12:34] TR News Microsoft picks the worst ofthr worst https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/02/activisions-plan-to-tackle-cod-online-cheaters-cheat-them-back/ | Source: Techdirt [12:34] TR Bot Plan To Tackle CoD Online Cheaters: Cheat Them Back | Techdirt [12:34] TR News SPAM https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/03/republicans-want-to-make-sure-your-inboxes-are-filled-with-spam-unless-the-spam-filters-block-democrats-emails/ | Source: Techdirt [12:34] TR Bot Want To Make Sure Your Inboxes Are Filled With Spam (Unless The Spam Filters Block Democrats Emails) | Techdirt [12:35] TR News Surveillance https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/03/indian-government-now-wants-vpns-to-collect-and-turn-over-personal-data-on-users/ | Source: Techdirt [12:35] TR Bot Government Now Wants VPNs To Collect And Turn Over Personal Data On Users | Techdirt [12:36] TR News https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/03/new-yorkers-famed-fact-checking-crew-apparently-unaware-of-the-1st-amendment/ | Source: Techdirt [12:36] TR Bot Yorkers Famed Fact Checking Crew Apparently Unaware Of The 1st Amendment? | Techdirt [12:37] XRevan86 https://nextcloud.com/blog/nextcloud-hub-24-is-here/ Nextcloud 24 [12:37] TR Bot Hub 24 is here - Nextcloud [12:40] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● May 04 [13:00] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 15.38 k/sec., IPFS upstream 43.35 average k/sec., average swarm size 395.63 [13:41] *disintermediate (~54112eb7@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [13:50] *disintermediate has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [13:51] *Officer (~b9652041@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [13:55] *Officer has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [13:57] *Frozen (~0df460f9@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights ● May 04 [14:01] *Frozen has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [14:08] *barto has quit (Quit: Goodbye, World! 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BaronHK's Rants [14:49] TR News Mastodon Basics Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164455 Twitter = one boss. Mastodon = one thousand bosses (some above others). Running your own blog, with RSS feeds = you're the boss. [14:49] TR Bot Mastodon Basics | Tux Machines [14:55] TR News Pstore, The Linux Kernel Persistent Storage File System https://blogs.oracle.com/linux/post/pstore-linux-kernel-persistent-storage-file-system [14:56] *psymin (~psymin@me3biw7mdts84.irc) has joined #techrights [14:56] *psymin (~psymin@user/psymin) has joined #techrights [14:56] TR News timeline of a successful attack on the most basic tools like: exiftool https://dwaves.de/2022/05/03/heightened-cyber-alarm-levels-timeline-of-a-successful-attack-on-the-most-basic-tools-like-exiftool-possible-mitigations/ [14:56] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/22050156 [14:56] *TechrightsBot-tr has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:56] TR News "Cockpit is the modern Linux admin interface. 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Also in this edition: Mexican court axes biometric mobile registration scheme; Russias quiet cyber war" https://www.codastory.com/newsletters/russia-tiktok-propaganda/ [15:02] TR News IF???? https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20220503-activists-urge-ad-boycott-if-musk-turns-twitter-toxic [15:03] *TechrightsBot-tr (~TR@ju4kayhrhsm6a.irc) has joined #techrights [15:03] TechrightsBot-tr Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77 [15:04] TR News Vegetarians threaten to boycott Tyson if it STARTS selling meat [15:05] TR News Don't worry, lads. Just stay in Twitter. Just don't condemn the new owner 'too much'.... that alone might be worth the purchase price to him... [15:07] TR News Melinda Gates: I divorce my husband because of Jeffrey Epstein, whose only 'value' was giving access to underage sex. Corporate media: Gates is divorced over adult relationships. Yeah, gaslight the wife for your SPONSOR Bill... [15:14] TR News elementary OSelementary OS Updates for April, 2022 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164449#comment-33541 [15:15] TR Bot elementary OS 7 Code Name Revealed. Here are the Details | Tux Machines [15:15] TR News "The Steam Deck has been a popular launch but it's not been without it's flaws and turns out that a great feature that Valve added to steam worked completely opposite to what it was supposed to do." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=5U2bTS4O-5U [15:15] TR Bot Valve Accidently Blocked Steam Deck Downloads - Invidious [15:16] TR News "I often hear from users of Windows, Mac and ChromeOS tell me that they are thinking about trying out Linux, but they are not sure if Linux is right for them. Well, let me ask you a question... " https://yewtu.be/watch?v=gIJl_69_a6M [15:16] TR Bot Do You Want A Cloud Operating System? (SPOILER: I Don't!) - Invidious [15:21] *alextee (~alextee@2mavpjhjkd624.irc) has joined #techrights [15:24] TR News BSD Kernel and Linux Kernel Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164457 [15:24] TR Bot BSD Kernel and Linux Kernel | Tux Machines [15:33] MinceR (cat) https://imgur.com/t/cats/WF0u13b [15:33] TR Bot liked the crinkly paper - Album on Imgur [15:33] TR News Many fools give away far too much personal data about themselves, wrongly assuming corporate and state benevolence https://www.maketecheasier.com/location-data-cdc-track-covid/ [15:33] TR Bot Location Data Used by CDC to Track COVID Compliance - Make Tech Easier [15:35] TR News Mozilla browser Firefox hits the big 100 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164392#comment-33542 [15:35] TR Bot Firefox 100 Is Now Available for Download, Enables GTK Overlay Scrollbars on Linux | Tux Machines [15:36] TR News NXP i.MX RT1180 Cortex-M7/M33 crossover MCU integrates GbE TSN for industrial IoT communication - CNX Software https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/05/04/nxp-i-mx-rt1180-cortex-m7-m33-crossover-mcu-integrates-gbe-tsn-for-industrial-iot-communication/ Source: Linux | GNU | Hardware | cnxsoftware [15:36] TR Bot NXP i.MX RT1180 Cortex-M7/M33 crossover MCU integrates GbE TSN for industrial IoT communication - CNX Software [15:39] TR News "The problem is that there was nothing illegal about what he did, and a company can even make it a policy that someone of a certain age cant have a job there, so long as they dont discriminate against people over 40." https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/05/04/in-america-anti-age-discrimination-laws-discriminate-based-on-age/ [15:39] TR Bot In America, anti-age discrimination laws discriminate based on age. 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The latter of course includes search engine crawlers and feed fetchers, for example." gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-05-04-it-s-bots-all-the-way-down-what-s-an-ad-worth-anyway.gmi [15:44] TR News HELP, accidentially deleted my capsule gemini://jdj.golf/gemlog/shit.gmi [15:54] TR News "We happen to have a casino in town, which we've been to a few times this year after a couple year COVID-motivated hiatus, primarily due to some juicy "free money" enticement." gemini://midnight.pub/posts/918 ● May 04 [16:11] TR News Links 03/05/2022: Kubernetes 1.24 and Tor Browser 11.0.11 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/04/kubernetes-1-24/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/04/kubernetes-1-24/ [16:11] TR Bot Links 03/05/2022: Kubernetes 1.24 and Tor Browser 11.0.11 | Techrights [16:12] TR News Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164458 [16:12] TR Bot Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [16:13] TR News Videos: Clown Computing and Valve Accidently Blocked Steam Deck Downloads Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164459 [16:13] TR Bot Videos: Clown Computing and Valve Accidently Blocked Steam Deck Downloads | Tux Machines [16:13] TR News Cockpit 268.1 and Kubernetes 1.24 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164460 [16:13] TR Bot Cockpit 268.1 and Kubernetes 1.24 | Tux Machines [16:13] TR News Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164461 [16:13] TR Bot today's leftovers | Tux Machines [16:20] TR News Calamares Future Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164462 [16:20] TR Bot Calamares Future | Tux Machines [16:23] TR News Linux Lite: A Simple, Fast and Free Linux Lightweight Distro Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164463 [16:23] TR Bot Linux Lite: A Simple, Fast and Free Linux Lightweight Distro | Tux Machines [16:26] *chicksahoy has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:26] *chicksahoy (~reptoidz@3bqgtimdtkf6e.irc) has joined #techrights [16:32] *forkbombe (~forkbombe@u89vdyv4abg8n.irc) has joined #techrights [16:34] TR News [PULL v3] drm/msm: display pull request for 5.19 - Dmitry Baryshkov https://lore.kernel.org/dri-devel/20220501234139.13513-1-dmitry.baryshkov@linaro.org/ Source: linaro [16:34] TR Bot [PULL v3] drm/msm: display pull request for 5.19 - Dmitry Baryshkov [16:34] TR News Stats Suggest the Steam Deck May Have Influenced an Increase in Linux Gaming Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164464 [16:34] TR Bot Stats Suggest the Steam Deck May Have Influenced an Increase in Linux Gaming | Tux Machines [16:36] TR News KarTrak: How Railroads Got Barcodes First https://tedium.co/2022/05/04/kartrak-railroad-barcode-history/ Source: tedium [16:36] TR Bot KarTrak: How Railroads Got Barcodes First [16:37] TR News Proxmox 7.2 "VE" https://www.proxmox.com/en/ [16:37] TR Bot - Powerful open-source server solutions [16:37] TR News Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164465 [16:37] TR Bot Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [16:39] TR News Canonical Kubernetes 1.24 is now generally available http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164460#comment-33543 [16:39] TR Bot Cockpit 268.1 and Kubernetes 1.24 | Tux Machines [16:44] TR News Proxmox Virtual Environment 7.2 released Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164466 [16:44] TR Bot Proxmox Virtual Environment 7.2 released | Tux Machines [16:54] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/22050115 [16:54] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/a40djifvmiw81.jpg created on 2022-05-01 04:46:26.212399 [16:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 24.98 k/sec., IPFS upstream 57.70 average k/sec., average swarm size 334.93 ● May 04 [17:03] TR News "SpaceVim is great - I had planned on writing an entire post on the batteries-attached, sensible defaults value prop of software like SpaceVim or Rails. Alas, that post hasn't yet materialized. Until then, just know that getting up and running with SpaceVim has been a delight, and I appreciate an opinionated entryway into vim." gemini://dogbeach.club/blog/030922-playing-catchup.gmi [17:04] TR News https://jcoterhals.medium.com/basic-and-the-roms-that-changed-the-world-and-then-disappeared-38318db4611c [17:04] TR Bot BASIC and the ROMs that changed the world (and then disappeared) | by Jo Christian Oterhals | May, 2022 | Medium [17:04] TR News BASIC and the ROMs that changed the world (and then disappeared) | by Jo Christian Oterhals https://jcoterhals.medium.com/basic-and-the-roms-that-changed-the-world-and-then-disappeared-38318db4611c [17:05] TR News "Hokey religions and ancient weapons might not be a match for a good blaster, but Arduino Star Wars projects certainly are. To celebrate May the 4th (also known as Star Wars Day), weve put together a list of inspired builds from a galaxy far, far away that you can make yourself." https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/05/04/the-force-is-strong-with-these-arduino-star-wars-projects/ [17:05] TR Bot Check out these top 10 amazing Star Wars projects built with Arduino [17:06] TR News Take things up a notch by turning the humble OLED into a rotary dial | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/05/03/take-things-up-a-notch-by-turning-the-humble-oled-into-a-rotary-dial/ Source: Arduino | Hardware | OpenHardware | Hacking [17:06] TR Bot Take things up a notch by turning the humble OLED into a rotary dial | Arduino Blog [17:07] TR News [PATCH v2 0/4] Apple SoC cpufreq driver - Hector Martin https://lore.kernel.org/linux-pm/20220504075153.185208-1-marcan@marcan.st/ Source: marcan [17:07] TR Bot [PATCH v2 0/4] Apple SoC cpufreq driver - Hector Martin [17:08] TR News "Change proposal: Deprecate Legacy BIOS https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2780 REJECTED (+8, 0, -0)" https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/KCJCEQMHITAQUW4SMWU3AXIPZ65GSDSU/ http://techrights.org/2022/04/08/planned-obsolescence-ibm/ [17:08] TR Bot #2780: Change proposal: Deprecate Legacy BIOS - fesco - Pagure.io [17:08] TR Bot Schedule for Tuesday's FESCo Meeting (2022-05-03) - devel - Fedora Mailing-Lists [17:08] TR Bot IBM and Fedora: Stop Being Poor! Buy a New PC! | Techrights [17:10] TR News EU Declaration of Digital Rights & Principles: Free Software included by European Parliament Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164467 [17:10] TR Bot EU Declaration of Digital Rights & Principles: Free Software included by European Parliament | Tux Machines [17:12] TR News "Automation is a hot topic right now." Not really. This is what computing was all about, always. But now the media props up buzzwords instead of substance, inc. clown, transformation and Hey Hi https://opensource.com/article/22/5/zerotier-network [17:12] TR Bot I manage my own virtual network with ZeroTier | Opensource.com [17:14] TR News It was not an issue unless you had installed dodgy, malicious software and then updated it to get a MORE malicious version https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/05/pixel-6-finally-getting-a-dirty-pipe-patch-one-month-after-the-galaxy-s22/ [17:14] TR Bot Pixel 6 finally getting a Dirty Pipe patch, one month after the Galaxy S22 | Ars Technica [17:16] TR News Making a huge deal out of privilege escalation while there are many remotely-exploitable zero-days in Windows and other proprietary platforms https://9to5google.com/2022/05/03/dirty-pipe-major-exploit-android-12-pixel-6-galaxy-s22/ [17:16] TR Bot Pipe: Pixel 6 & Galaxy S22 affected by major exploit - 9to5Google [17:20] TR News "The lies of the American system of government exposed by the Supreme Courts abortion draft ruling. Im not in favor of unrestricted abortion, but the way the US Supreme Court operates is the most terrifying thing about living in America today." https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/05/03/the-lies-of-the-american-system-of-government-exposed-by-the-supreme-courts-abortion-draft-ruling/ [17:20] TR Bot The lies of the American system of government exposed by the Supreme Courts abortion draft ruling. BaronHK's Rants [17:21] TR News The "smart" "phone" was always a liability with few practical benefit (easily outweighed by the liabilities) https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/05/04/location-tracking-company-selling-data-on-smartphone-users-who-visit-abortion-clinics/ [17:21] TR Bot Location tracking company selling data on smartphone users who visit abortion clinics. BaronHK's Rants [17:22] TR News "The nonfree app Along, developed by a company controlled by Zuckerberg, leads students to reveal to their teacher personal information about themselves and their families. Conversations are recorded and the collected data sent to the company, which grants itself the right to sell it." http://savannah.gnu.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=10168 [17:22] TR Bot GNU Education - News: Along: an app to collect students' data for marketing purposes [Savannah] [17:23] TR News "The Along app invites teachers to record personal questions on video and ask the student to respond with an audio or video recording. Through this process, the app systematically guides teachers to ask students about matters of interest for Facebook and other profilers" https://www.gnu.org/education/educational-malware-app-along.html [17:23] TR Bot Educational Malware App Along - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation [17:33] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164468 [17:33] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [17:34] TR News "The Eiffel tower has 3 floors that you can visit. If you have the chance, DO IT! I" https://blog.jabberhead.tk/2022/05/04/europe-trip-journal-entry-1-vertigo/ [17:34] TR Bot Europe Trip Journal Entry 1: Vertigo vanitasvitae's blog [17:35] schestowitz LOL [17:35] schestowitz " [17:35] schestowitz Last night I learned that its possible to wish death upon a stranger you dont even know. [17:35] schestowitz At first I thought Id be the only guest in the 4-bed room I booked a bed in. I intended to go to sleep so that Id get a healthy 8 hours of sleep. However, the place being a youth hostel, a group of kids kept running across the hallway, keeping me up. But hey, no hard feelings. At roughly 1:30 or so another guest arrived. He did not talk much and quickly went to bed. And then the snoring began [17:35] schestowitz As if that was not enough, another guest arrived banging the door since his card didnt work and took the bed above mine. Apparently he could not sleep either due to the snoring, so at some point when I barely managed to drift away, he stood up and left the room for half an hour or so, leaving his light on and the room illuminated. [17:35] schestowitz " [17:36] TR News No more Windows. "File management software maker Peer Software plans to launch Linux file server compatibility this summer, along with enhanced artificial intelligence/machine learning (AI/ML)-based file access anomaly detection and storage audits." https://www.computerweekly.com/news/252516669/PeerGFS-adds-AI-ML-anomaly-detection-to-distributed-file-system [17:36] TR Bot PeerGFS adds AI/ML anomaly detection to distributed file system product [17:37] TR News Tachyum Prodigy FPGA Running Applications in Linux Interactive Mode https://www.benzinga.com/pressreleases/22/05/b26964632/tachyum-prodigy-fpga-running-applications-in-linux-interactive-mode [17:37] TR Bot Prodigy FPGA Running Applications in Linux Interactive Mode - Benzinga [17:38] TR News scrcpy compiled in OpenEmbedded https://bkhome.org/news/202205/scrcpy-compiled-in-openembedded.html [17:38] TR Bot scrcpy compiled in OpenEmbedded [17:38] *bnchs (~bnchs@pc973hhizypps.irc) has joined #techrights [17:39] TR News "As a consequence of my doing Debian development but running Debian stable everywhere, I accumulate a number of tweaks like this one over the course of each Debian stable release." https://spwhitton.name//blog/entry/for-bullseye/ [17:39] TR Bot for-bullseye [17:40] TR News Did the xubuntu site suffer a breach? Some spam was submitted into its blog/news... then removed. [17:41] TR News "Stackedit is a free, open-source web-based Markdown editor that comes with many useful features for web writers." https://medevel.com/dir/stackedit-markdown/ Apache License [17:41] TR Bot Stackedit is a browser-based Markdown editor [17:42] TR News "ASCIIFlow is a client-side only web based application for drawing ASCII diagrams. You can use it at asciiflow.com." https://medevel.com/dir/asciiflow/ [17:42] TR Bot ASCIIFlow is a web-based ASCII diagram editor [17:45] TR News 1980s: let's move all the programs to the GUI, for GUI's sake. 1990s: let's move all the programs to the OS, complete with holes. 2000+: let's move all the programs to the browser because "ajax" etc. 2020+: let's outsource everything to spies (clown computing) due to media hype (pressure/shaming/buzzwords). [17:47] TR News Cargo cults are for the weak, who lack character, identity and cannot form their own judgments. Or reject marketing bullies. Like kids who join gangs to feel "Strong" (be used). [17:49] TR News The last week which for which data on deaths with COVID-19 is on the death certificate (22-04-2022) is the HIGHEST since winter https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths?areaType=overview&areaName=United%20Kingdom [17:49] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths?areaType=overview&areaName=United%20Kingdom ) [17:51] TR News Don't be misled by media counting COVID-19 cases. The TESTING level is now lowest since 2020. We're just blinding ourselves to the issue. https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/testing?areaType=overview&areaName=United%20Kingdom [17:51] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/testing?areaType=overview&areaName=United%20Kingdom ) [17:53] bnchs 403 status lol [17:53] bnchs are sites starting to block you? [17:54] TR News All this home assistants/automation/"smart home" BS is a whole lots of FOMO. You're meant to think you're "behind" if you don't boobytrap your home with spying junk while draining your wallet (these gadgets do not last long, either) [17:54] schestowitz-TR maybe they block a lot of bots, bnchs [17:55] schestowitz-TR it does not matter if the human visitor can access it OK [17:55] schestowitz-TR page title it not so meaningful, there are many section to these pages, which are JS mess [17:55] schestowitz-TR *sections [17:55] *bnchs__ (~bnchs@u66kcvn529u46.irc) has joined #techrights [17:55] schestowitz-TR our gov. is gradually abandoning this portalk [17:55] schestowitz-TR it's "bad for business..." [17:55] SomeH4x0r hi bnchs__ [17:56] bnchs__ hey [17:56] SomeH4x0r still seeing no players on UplinkIRC, though had a chat with a regular [17:56] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:58] Ariadne https://www.theverge.com/2022/5/4/23056799/github-contributors-2fa-two-factor-authentication-2023 [17:58] TR Bot GitHub will require all code contributors to use two-factor authentication - The Verge [17:58] TR News Educational Malware App Along | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/04/fsf-on-app-along/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/04/fsf-on-app-along/ [17:58] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [17:58] TR Bot Educational Malware App Along | Techrights [17:58] Ariadne i wish github would have the balls to say "2fa required in 90 days" [17:58] matey /me reads a large percentage of websites with a text editor [17:58] Ariadne this 2024 thing is lame [17:58] bnchs__ Ariadne, 2fa is bullshit [17:58] bnchs__ maybe make it optional [17:58] Ariadne bnchs__: depends on what 2FA is. WebAuthn is not bullshit [17:59] bnchs__ but not required [17:59] matey websites are more and more like ipod playlists [17:59] bnchs__ yes [17:59] matey people still make them, so things are in a certain order [17:59] *goosestepping_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:59] matey but shuffle is king [17:59] matey so when i go to a website, usually its one page [17:59] Ariadne you can download FOSS security token software and schematics for libre security keys [17:59] bnchs__ 2FA is a vague term ● May 04 [18:00] bnchs__ it depends on what implementation they're gonna use [18:00] matey 2 fucking annoying [18:00] Ariadne to be clear, i think that serious maintainers should have something like a yubikey (or the FOSS one that i can't think of atm) [18:01] Ariadne maintainers should not be using password auth to distribute their software, it is too easy for a bad actor to fuck with [18:01] bnchs__ maybe use SSH keys [18:01] bnchs__ or sign their commits with PGP [18:01] Ariadne if it is the 2FA that is "we send you an SMS", that's obviously bullshit [18:02] Ariadne you can sign commits with SSH now [18:02] matey sms is like fort knox, sms is impenetrable [18:03] matey i just got one from george washington, i think he would know if it wasnt safe [18:03] Ariadne the GNU project used to be ahead of the curve on stuff like that, but in recent years, things like commit signing and even signed tarballs have become inconsistent in GNU deliverables [18:03] bnchs__ there's only a few TOTP 2FA apps for mobile devices [18:03] bnchs__ the rest is proprietary shit [18:03] matey join us now and help us sabotage our own software [18:03] bnchs__ a few free TOTP 2FA apps for mobile devices* [18:04] Ariadne i use the one redhat makes, freeotp [18:04] Ariadne or whatever it is called [18:04] SomeH4x0r Google Authenticator was free, but is no longer [18:04] bnchs__ google auth is proprietary though [18:04] SomeH4x0r make a thing popular, then close it [18:04] bnchs__ when i mean free, i mean free as in freedom [18:05] SomeH4x0r iirc it used to be under Apache license [18:05] Ariadne one thing i've learned about on android devices is that you can plug a yubikey into them [18:05] Ariadne it "just works" [18:05] matey i think openbsd supports it too [18:05] Ariadne well yeah on desktop it is easy [18:05] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@c4gvkhfifuani.irc) has joined #techrights [18:06] bnchs__ didn't yubikey get tivoized [18:06] Ariadne there's a libre one [18:06] Ariadne i can't remember the name of it [18:06] Ariadne i just buy yubikeys because i can have them same day delivered on amazon prime [18:07] matey libreswan? [18:07] SomeH4x0r YubiKey is an evil device by design [18:08] SomeH4x0r "physical security" [18:08] SomeH4x0r trash it [18:08] bnchs__ whats the point of it if it's gonna be proprietary [18:09] matey this fucker is hard to find [18:09] matey librem has a key but [18:09] matey im sure its not that one [18:09] bnchs__ "we, as a product company, have taken a clear stand against implementations based on off-the-shelf components and further believe that something like a commercial-grade AVR or ARM controller is unfit to be used in a security product" [18:10] bnchs__ so becau [18:10] matey as a bullshit company [18:10] bnchs__ they went proprietary because they went greedy [18:10] matey profit over security [18:10] SomeH4x0r big companies become evil [18:10] Ariadne nitrokey [18:10] Ariadne that's the one [18:10] SomeH4x0r don't let your friends grow big [18:11] matey Nitrokey is an open-source USB key used to enable the secure encryption and signing of data. The secret keys are always stored inside the Nitrokey which protects against malware and attackers. A user-chosen PIN and a tamper-proof smart card protect the Nitrokey in case of loss and theft. The hardware and software of Nitrokey are open-source. The free software and open hardware enables independent parties to verify the security of the device. [18:12] bnchs__ if you can flash your own firmware into the USB key [18:12] bnchs__ then that would be great [18:12] matey /me refuses to use it unless it supports sixels [18:12] bnchs__ the active low meme [18:13] matey though you should never send your private key to /dev/lp0 because its not a secure channel [18:13] matey it might get leaked onto paper by your epson 9 pin [18:14] bnchs__ i would definitely trust a tivoizated, proprietary USB key with my private PGP key [18:15] bnchs__ yubico is another example of what happens when you go big [18:16] matey power corrupts [18:16] Ariadne bnchs__: yes you can flash your own firmware onto nitrokey [18:16] bnchs__ well that's great [18:17] Ariadne though i think the secure element is wiped every time you flash a new firmware [18:17] Ariadne so you would need to reenroll your keys [18:17] Ariadne (the rationale behind this is antitampering and it makes sense) [18:17] bnchs__ i can understand why [18:17] matey perfect sense [18:18] matey otherwise you could just install something else to read it [18:18] matey "now its a usb keyboard. wait, let me type the keys in for you" [18:19] Ariadne the yubikey has a usb keyboard mode where it will type in random data if you touch it [18:19] Ariadne which is annoying [18:19] Ariadne thankfully, the nitrokey does not have this "feature" [18:21] matey registering itself as an input device is probably annoying too [18:21] *psydroid2 grabs hammer and sixel [18:21] TR News Chart: Only Lockdowns Have Stopped COVID-19 From Spreading http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/05/04/covid-test-case-ratio/ [18:22] TR Bot Blog Archive Chart: Only Lockdowns Have Stopped COVID-19 From Spreading [18:22] bnchs__ Ariadne, why would it do that [18:22] bnchs__ entropy? [18:22] matey forward, to 8bit colour! [18:22] TR News "Through this process, the app systematically guides teachers to ask students about matters of interest for Facebook and other profilers that would be willing to buy the resulting data." http://techrights.org/2022/05/04/fsf-on-app-along/ [18:22] TR Bot Educational Malware App Along | Techrights [18:23] bnchs__ to the sixel-mobile! [18:23] Ariadne bnchs__: it's some integrated OTP thing [18:23] bnchs__ so basically nothing but annoying [18:25] DaemonFC https://wgntv.com/news/intuit-to-pay-141m-settlement-over-free-turbotax-ads-heres-who-is-eligible/ [18:25] TR Bot Intuit to pay $141M settlement over free TurboTax ads, heres who is eligible | WGN-TV [18:25] DaemonFC I replied: Intuit is one of the companies lobbying to prevent the IRS from automatically telling you what your tax bill is, sending you one form to sign (and if it was wrong, you'd tell them why and show your work, which would be no worse than filing taxes is now). [18:25] DaemonFC The IRS already knows everything except possibly some very small amounts of income that are below the reporting threshold. Every bank interest form, most "buttcoin" pretend money Capital Gains, you name it. If they get information and you don't disclose it, you can be in serious trouble. [18:25] DaemonFC So right now, thanks to H&R Block and Intuit and a few others, you have to HOPE you get every form you need that the IRS already knows about (because they get them electronically), report it all, and that you've done your math right, or else it will result in an income mismatch and it's up to the IRS what they want to do about it. AND you get to pay TurboTax or H&R Block or someone for the right to use their software, AND if you get a [18:25] DaemonFC calculation wrong and it results in an overpayment to the IRS or state they might just never tell you and keep it. [18:28] matey "we make your life easier, so if it gets easier without our help we have to stop that" [18:29] matey red hat had a similar ethic [18:30] *teucer_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:30] matey they should have bought intuit [18:30] matey then instead of controlling just gcc and all your daemons they could be in charge of your taxes as well [18:31] matey systemd-taxformd [18:31] matey /me waits for systemd to integrate its own compiler in pid 1 [18:32] bnchs__ systemd-compilerd [18:32] bnchs__ to compile your systemd [18:32] *SomeH4x0r has quit (connection closed) [18:32] matey then when it takes 45 minutes to shut down at least you know its doing something useful [18:32] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@jubkat3igexrk.irc) has joined #techrights [18:32] bnchs__ i search "systemd is an OS" [18:32] bnchs__ i get techrights on the third result [18:33] bnchs__ nobody is talking about it [18:33] matey oh which article [18:33] bnchs__ http://techrights.org/2020/02/03/systemd-os/ [18:33] TR Bot Systemd Has Become (Almost) an Operating System | Techrights [18:34] matey lol [18:35] *InxI (~5fd6366c@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [18:37] TR News Fewer than 50 million Brits got a second shot of 'fake' COVID-19, which means that almost 20 millions have not. But our government brags about figures like "92.5%" -- a misleading peer pressure tactic [18:38] bnchs__ "the NSA spends $250 million per year to insert backdoors in software and hardware as part of the Bullrun program" [18:38] matey ripping you off sp they can rip you a new one [18:38] matey i wish they would hang already [18:38] bnchs__ so help me god i'll tear you a new one [18:38] bnchs__ bigger than the grand canyon [18:39] matey their families should disown them [18:39] TR News It's beyond provable and demonstrable that what kills off COVID-19 (but not eradicates it) is social distancing. Masks help too when many wear them as aerosols/droplets is how it passes. [18:39] bnchs__ i'm thinking about the U.S. army esports thing [18:40] matey every security tech company should have one by the entrance on a spike [18:41] matey worthless traitors [18:42] bnchs__ "hoo, when i think of all my hard earned tax dollars, going to pay a bunch of little twig-boys playing vidya games" [18:42] bnchs__ "it just makes me wanna..." [18:42] matey lol [18:44] bnchs__ https://recruiting.army.mil/army_esports/ [18:44] TR Bot U.S. Army Esports Team [18:44] bnchs__ recruiting [18:44] bnchs__ but not recruiting [18:44] TR News CISA Adds Five Known Exploited Vulnerabilities to Catalog https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/05/04/cisa-adds-five-known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog 40% are APPLE and 40% are Microsoft, but CIA is omitting that because it does not wish to admonish proprietary stuff with NSA back doors? [18:44] TR Bot CISA Adds Five Known Exploited Vulnerabilities to Catalog | CISA [18:44] matey i thought that was a typo for exports [18:45] schestowitz-TR *CISA [18:45] psydroid2 https://m.interglot.com/nl/en/ronselen [18:45] TR Bot Translate 'ronselen' from Dutch to English [18:45] InxI https://goarmysof.com/cgi-sys/suspendedpage.cgi [18:45] TR Bot Account Suspended [18:45] TR News YaST Development Report - Chapter 3 of 2022 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164469 [18:45] TR Bot YaST Development Report - Chapter 3 of 2022 | Tux Machines [18:46] psydroid2 "to shanghai" or "to crimp" [18:46] psydroid2 recruiting sounds so polite [18:47] InxI the russian use conscripts [18:47] bnchs__ 2022: your tax dollars goes to us army's fortnite team [18:47] bnchs__ to recruit young kids [18:47] TR News What is the Matrix Protocol and #HowTo Install It Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164470 [18:47] TR Bot What is the Matrix Protocol and How to Install It | Tux Machines [18:47] psydroid2 "you're going to join the army or we're going to kill your squirrel" [18:47] TR News Microbell helping Microsoft openwashing campaigns again. I suppose he doesn't like his audience and doesn't want reader anymore. [18:47] InxI the chinese use esports bot teams [18:48] matey https://yewtu.be/watch?v=FqJwD35wWhY [18:48] TR Bot Operation Get Behind The Darkies - Invidious [18:49] bnchs__ people are complaining about their tax money being wasted [18:49] bnchs__ but nobody talks about the hololens thing [18:49] bnchs__ or this garbage [18:49] schestowitz-TR it's theft [18:49] schestowitz-TR it's microsoft crime [18:49] schestowitz-TR they call crime "business [18:50] schestowitz-TR and say they fight crime [18:50] matey people talk about whats in the news [18:50] schestowitz-TR the criminals love saying things like things [18:50] matey bill gtes buys the news [18:50] schestowitz-TR projection tactics [18:50] matey thats that then [18:50] bnchs__ https://nitter.net/USArmyesports [18:50] TR Bot U.S. Army Esports (@USArmyesports) | nitter [18:50] bnchs__ their twitter is full of the most cringiest shit i ever seen [18:50] bnchs__ they're trying to be hip with the kids with memes [18:50] matey USArmy, thats really clever [18:51] matey because united states army is a recursive acronym for "die for corporations" [18:51] InxI BRHOOAH [18:51] matey with apologies to ryan [18:51] TR News At risk of sounding repetitive, Microsoft is organised crime disguised as a legitimate software business http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162988#comment-33323 [18:51] TR Bot Microsoft Run by Criminals, Who Expel Those Who Don't Participate in the Crimes | Tux Machines [18:52] TR News Security Patches, Linux FUD, and Apple and Microsoft as the Real Danger/Culprits Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164471 [18:52] TR Bot Security Patches, Linux FUD, and Apple and Microsoft as the Real Danger/Culprits | Tux Machines [18:52] bnchs__ "i got PTSD and lost both of legs in vietnam war" [18:52] bnchs__ "ok boomer lol hahahaha" [18:52] matey oof [18:52] InxI YOLO [18:53] schestowitz-TR "what did we win?" [18:53] schestowitz-TR saigon become hon chi ming or whaqtever [18:53] schestowitz-TR like fighting taliban for over 20 years and 'losing' [18:54] schestowitz-TR scare quotes [18:54] schestowitz-TR because many corporations won [18:54] schestowitz-TR trillions in graft [18:54] psydroid2 Microbell has matured and is looking for a more mature and more professional audience now [18:54] psydroid2 the one Gates and Epstein were experts in [18:55] TR News Linux New Media Launches Free Software JobHub https://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/News/Linux-New-Media-Launches-Open-Source-JobHub [18:55] TR Bot Linux New Media Launches Open Source JobHub Linux Magazine [18:56] SomeH4x0r PulseAudio went crazy again. Is it possible to fix it? [18:56] SomeH4x0r setting sound to 74% when I plug/unplug earphones [18:56] SomeH4x0r fixable by reboot, but is there other way? [18:57] psydroid2 PulseAudio is unfixable [18:57] TR News Microsoft media operative (Tung) spreads FUD, site called "linuxsecurity" repeats it again; it's equally problematic in proprietary and you CANNOT even audit it. BONUS: this kind of malware is typically transmitted BY MICROSOFT https://linuxsecurity.com/news/security-projects/open-source-security-it-s-too-easy-to-upload-devastating-malicious-packages-warns-google [18:57] psydroid2 that's why they wrote Pipewire [18:57] TR Bot Open-source security: It's too easy to upload 'devastating' malicio... [18:57] psydroid2 to introduce new bugs and fixes [18:58] InxI i need to keep pulse mixer open all the time so not yo get bruuuuuh noise [18:58] matey https://yewtu.be/watch?v=vb5rHthCXoAi have mixed feelings on the onions portrayal of autists but that one is brilliant [18:58] TR Bot Four American Troops Tragically Killed Along With 23 Afghanis - Invidious [18:58] TR News ICBM is a fossil, living off its long past as the brand rots away https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/04/ibm_power_i_7_5/ [18:58] TR Bot IBM outlines update to i OS for Power servers The Register [18:58] matey i need to keep pulse mixer open all the time so not yo get bruuuuuh noise <- theres a fix for that [18:58] InxI how? [18:58] matey install openbsd [18:58] InxI piss off [18:59] InxI the card must be going into powersave ● May 04 [19:00] TR News Microsoft just bought some influence, as usual http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164307#comment-33544 [19:00] TR Bot Linux Foundation Takes More Microsoft Money and Does Openwashing | Tux Machines [19:00] SomeH4x0r stopped pipewire [19:00] bnchs__ matey: i have openbsd in a CD [19:00] InxI i have no such issue on windows [19:01] bnchs__ can't say the same for most GNU/Linux distributions [19:01] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:01] matey i have no such issue on windows <- no, windows has its own mountain of problems [19:01] bnchs__ they're so bloated that they can't fit in a CD [19:01] *psydroid2 prefers dealing with sndio [19:01] TR News Zemlin sells influence, seats, and lies to/for Microsoft. He's an enemy of civilisation, abetting crime for personal gain. http://techrights.org/2021/11/09/linux-foundation-greenwash/ [19:01] TR Bot Linux Foundation Has Become Even Worse Than Climate Science Deniers | Techrights [19:01] matey windows sucking arse was my idea [19:02] psydroid2 you deserve all the credit for that [19:02] bnchs__ openbsd is good [19:02] matey "rounding up jews with punched cards was my idea"-- ibm [19:02] bnchs__ i mean i did manage to install it [19:03] matey you deserve all the credit for that <- i cant, they were very helpful [19:03] TR News Microsoft: let's toss some fossilised trash from 27 years ago into PROPRIETARY ShitHub, which we control, and call that "open". That shit is twice as old as girls that Jeffrey Epstein sells access to... [19:04] InxI isnt Jeffrey Epstein like dead? [19:04] TR News Microsoft has successfully turned "Open Source" into a satirical term. [19:04] bnchs__ maybe [19:04] bnchs__ but all the celebrites went to him [19:04] schestowitz-TR leah: well, he's dead [19:04] schestowitz-TR oops [19:04] schestowitz-TR @ ln [19:05] schestowitz-TR InxI: [19:05] schestowitz-TR it looked like an L to me [19:05] InxI changr fonts [19:05] InxI change your fonts [19:05] TR News GREAT news. LESS consumption. Now we're getting somewhere! https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/04/logitech_sales_plunge_20_in/ [19:05] TR Bot Logitech sales plunge 20% in wake of slowing PC demand The Register [19:06] bnchs__ monospace fonts emphanize I and L [19:06] InxI ima gona register googIe.com domain [19:07] InxI some one already did [19:07] matey try my googie googie [19:08] matey epstein didnt kill himself, but i think blackmailing the rich and powerful with sex scandals probably helped him get killed [19:08] TR News 5G really IS a problem https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/04/faa_5g_altimeters/ see http://techrights.org/2021/12/27/fact-based-5g-criticism/ [19:08] TR Bot FAA tells airlines to replace 5G-sensitive altimeters The Register [19:09] TR Bot What Real (Fact-Based) 5G and Privacy Issues the Media Casually Distracts From | Techrights [19:09] matey "guns dont kill people... but i think the gun helps"-- eddie izzard [19:09] matey "you have to have a pretty dodgy heart for someone to just walk up to you and go 'BANG!'" [19:10] TR News Tails 5.0 Most Secure Linux Released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164428#comment-33545 [19:10] TR Bot Tails 5.0 Anonymous OS Officially Released, Based on Debian GNU/Linux 11 Bullseye | Tux Machines [19:11] TR News Both Unity and Trinity desktops get new releases Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164472 [19:11] TR Bot Both Unity and Trinity desktops get new releases | Tux Machines [19:12] bnchs__ can you make a VR device [19:12] bnchs__ with free drivers [19:12] TR News These companies should become extinct. They're a disservice which abuses both drivers and passengers. https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/04/chinese_ridehailing_company_didi_global/ [19:12] TR Bot Didi Global reveals it is under SEC investigation The Register [19:13] bnchs__ fuck that's a bad question [19:13] matey ah vr [19:13] bnchs__ you can already recycle a phone as a VR headst [19:13] matey finally a way to exfiltrate data from someones head on the cheap [19:13] InxI how to get cardboard working with games? [19:13] bnchs__ all you need is the hands [19:13] bnchs__ the fucking hands [19:13] matey really its not that kind of game [19:13] bnchs__ i would rather wear an entire motion capture suit [19:14] bnchs__ and a headset [19:14] InxI VR is the new sexy thing [19:14] matey its not new [19:14] TR News Phoronix 2022: Microsoft apologist. Not interest. DO NOT WANT. [19:14] InxI its *NEW* [19:14] matey neither is the cloud [19:14] schestowitz-TR metaclown [19:14] matey oh well if you add asterisks, it becomes true [19:15] psydroid2 the cloud is a new of doing old things [19:15] psydroid2 it's where companies go to die [19:15] InxI its whatever the markting people tell you it is [19:15] matey killer clown [19:15] schestowitz-TR psydroid2: like where many companies I work/ed with go [19:15] schestowitz-TR the clown [19:15] schestowitz-TR outsourcing [19:15] schestowitz-TR then the costs go up and kill them [19:16] schestowitz-TR yet worse, many clowns [19:16] schestowitz-TR a) lose data [19:16] psydroid2 it's natural selection at its finest [19:16] schestowitz-TR b) shut down [19:16] schestowitz-TR google plus [19:16] schestowitz-TR join diaspora [19:16] schestowitz-TR twitter fb (Musk Zuck): IN PROGRESS [19:16] matey roy wants to work at home, but not in the metaverse [19:17] psydroid2 new way* [19:17] schestowitz-TR it's hard to think of ANY online "hosting" service that lasted 20 years [19:17] schestowitz-TR thanks to Microsoft, not even Geocities lasted that long [19:17] schestowitz-TR they killed Yahoo! to steal some search share [19:17] InxI Musk wnat polititians to pay foe tweets XD [19:17] schestowitz-TR now they have a "privacy" (fake) proxy, DDG [19:17] psydroid2 politwitter [19:17] schestowitz-TR InxI: let him [19:18] schestowitz-TR he'll kill Twitter faster [19:18] InxI what a way to shoot him self in the foot [19:18] matey he has feet to spare [19:18] matey he can replace them with self-driving wheels [19:18] InxI musk already is an expert at that [19:18] schestowitz-TR he can buy a new foot [19:18] schestowitz-TR he keeps buying new hair [19:19] matey the new tesla foot [19:19] matey it knows where you want to go, so you dont have to [19:19] matey "hi elon, on the way to work?" [19:19] matey "i dont know, ill send you a tweet when i get there" [19:19] InxI musk is aiming to be the worlds global leadr [19:20] matey elon musk is an upper class tweet [19:20] TR News OH L@@@@K!!! HEY HI !!! HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI META META META https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/04/meta_releases_code_for_175billion/ the core product is dying, so they're faking it... [19:20] TR Bot Meta releases code for language model to AI researchers The Register [19:20] matey self-driving government? [19:21] matey worse than it sounds [19:21] schestowitz-TR matey: rapson creek? [19:22] InxI i bet twitter warned him about is tweets so he bought them off just to show then who is the boss [19:22] matey im sure theres plenty of examples [19:22] matey i bet twitter warned him about is tweets <- i bet they have a setting that doesnt do exactly that [19:23] InxI the only fair and uncorrptef form of govermenant is the AI governmjent [19:23] matey yes, it will maximise unfairness and corruption so it deserves its own version of those words [19:24] schestowitz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGB7yTZEZE4 [19:24] TR Bot https://invidio.xamh.de/watch?v=hGB7yTZEZE4 [19:24] matey it will replace injustice and corruption with artificial injustice and artificial corruption [19:24] TR Bot invidio.xamh.de | Betty Hutton sings "You Can't Get A Man With A Gun" - Invidious [19:24] matey a bit like synthetic oil replaces organic oil [19:24] matey then injustice and corruption will be more efficient than ever before [19:24] InxI the algo will br open source and a proved by a foundation [19:24] InxI no more biased laws [19:25] matey and the foundation of course, wont be corrupt, because the ai that watches the foundations isnt the same one that the foundation produces [19:25] InxI th eonly true and fair form of goverment [19:25] matey anyone who thinks biased corrupt people will implement an unbiased uncorruptable ai is fucking high [19:25] TR News With sanctions, the entire world is worse off https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/04/russian_counter_sanctions/ [19:25] TR Bot Putin threatens supply chains with counter-sanction order The Register [19:25] matey the only fair form of government is none at all [19:26] InxI LOL [19:26] matey keep learning [19:26] matey or you know, start [19:26] InxI fair for musk [19:26] *matey has quit (connection closed) [19:27] bnchs__ altlink hasn't come back for a day or 2 [19:27] InxI the only fair form of government is none at all <- who is that supposed to work? [19:27] InxI how [19:28] InxI thats exactlly how musk ill become the boss of thew world [19:29] TR News LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111 False dichtomy? CLOWN versus CLOWN. Have you tried using... like... you own goddmman server? https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/04/aws_amd_intel/ [19:29] TR Bot Using newer virtual machines can drive down cloud costs The Register [19:30] InxI the AI is not a government in the sense it doesn't dictate policies [19:31] TR News Choice between clowns (cloud computing) is like choosing whether to use the toilet of the neighbour to your left of the neighbour to your right. Get you own shitty toilet. [19:31] SomeH4x0r SkywaveC3: keyword ping [19:31] InxI it just issues guidelines that you will follow freewillingllly because they are fair based in sci9ence and make sence [19:32] TR News LOL "Google Cloud AI"... I do gulag clown... hey hi! Welcome to ma circus, ma dear! have a seat! https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/04/galileo_ml_error_detection/ [19:32] TR Bot Google, Uber alumni launch ML error-detection platform The Register [19:33] InxI THE ai IS THE MOST INTELIGENT BEING IN THE WORLD [19:33] *zleap (~zleap@user/zleap) has joined #techrights [19:33] TR News The high-tech industry is rapidly becoming self-satirising pile of steaming crap. You have to be miserable to actually want to work in it (IIRC, 90% of people in software hate their job, based on polls). [19:34] InxI so you would better to do has it says event if at 1st it doesnt makes sense [19:35] TR News I have magnetic drives that have lasted this long https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/04/samsung_endurance_sc_cards/ [19:35] TR Bot Samsung unveils hardened SD card that can survive 16 years The Register [19:35] InxI anly an AI can see the bigger picture [19:35] InxI and at the same time the finer details [19:36] InxI no human cant match it [19:36] TR News "Modern" "progress": make stuff that increases sales by breaking down often, fast. "Legacy": stuff made to last long. Nowadays business "success" is the former, the latter is just "not good for business" (whose?) [19:36] InxI its orders of magnitudes smarter [19:36] bnchs__ like the lightbulb cartel [19:36] bnchs__ they make things intentionally short [19:36] bnchs__ short on lifespan [19:37] schestowitz-TR within years the bulb exceed in cost the price of the lamp+housing [19:37] schestowitz-TR you can get long-lasting ones [19:37] schestowitz-TR but they are super expensive [19:37] InxI the AI is in essence GOD materialized [19:37] schestowitz-TR like x10 more than the 'disposables' [19:38] TR News It was not an issue unless you had installed dodgy, malicious software and then updated it to get a more malicious version https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/gadgets-news/explained-what-is-dirty-pipe-and-how-it-can-affect-some-android-phones/articleshow/91321668.cms [19:38] TR Bot dirty pipe: Explained: What is Dirty Pipe and how it can affect some Android phones - Times of India [19:38] *SkywaveC3 is now known as Skywave [19:38] bnchs__ india times: dirty pipe [19:39] bnchs__ i know india is poor, but dirty pipes [19:39] MinceR dirty sanchez [19:39] TR News Load Cell with Arduino Uno Using HX711 Amplification https://peppe8o.com/load-cell-with-arduino-uno-using-hx711-amplification/ Source: peppe8o [19:39] TR Bot Load Cell with Arduino Uno Using HX711 Amplification [19:39] Skywave InxI, what do you think about IA? [19:39] bnchs__ they should get a plumber to fix those dirty pipes [19:39] Skywave i want a global FOSS AGI technocracy. [19:40] InxI whats IA? [19:40] bnchs__ internet archive [19:40] schestowitz-TR beat me to it [19:40] Skywave open source is enforced by law, decentralized-distributed algocracies everywhere, a resource-based economy, proprietary-anything is a crime against humanity punished by putting one's brain in a vat. [19:40] Skywave Intelligence Amplification. [19:40] Skywave the backdoor to Artificial General Intelligence. [19:40] Skywave we will have AGI whether by conquest or consent. [19:41] Skywave what that will look like, is ubiquitous computing everywhere. smartphones tried to be the trojan horse to it, but due to capitalism, they end up barely working. [19:41] Skywave imagine open human instrumentation everywhere, recording everything, open data, all logs available to everyone. [19:41] Skywave the end of privacy. [19:41] MinceR Industrial Automation [19:41] Skywave https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_surveillance_in_popular_culture [19:41] Skywave 'The Light of Other Days is a science-fiction book that praises mass surveillance, under the condition that it is available to everyone. It shows a world in which a total lack of privacy results in a decrease in corruption and crime.' [19:41] TR Bot Mass surveillance in popular culture - Wikipedia [19:41] Skywave complete human transcendence. [19:41] bnchs__ got dang it clownflare [19:41] Skywave human beings as the bootstrap to artificial intelligence. [19:41] schestowitz-TR "big data" [19:41] bnchs__ i fucking hate their error page [19:42] Skywave yes. record everything, and make it all available to everyone. [19:42] bnchs__ they went from captcha to straight out blocking tor users [19:42] Skywave analyze all patterns and organize human beings on the bioenergetic level towards building ever-higher forms of intelligence. [19:43] Skywave most people will self-assimilate into iCorporatocracy. [19:43] Skywave which is what is already happening right now. [19:43] Skywave so i imagine competing teams basically, people using FOSS will eventually take this to the physical. [19:43] Skywave i imagine parallel underground societies of posthuman cyborgs. [19:44] TR News New Arduino Projects Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164473 [19:44] TR Bot New Arduino Projects | Tux Machines [19:44] Skywave https://yewtu.be/watch?v=7gSU_Xes3GQ 'China - Surveillance state or way of the future? | DW Documentary' [19:44] TR Bot China - Surveillance state or way of the future? | DW Documentary - Invidious [19:44] Skywave at some point everyone will have to have a proprietary smartphone with closed-source hardware and government "apps" just to move around. [19:44] bnchs__ Skywave, not without CLOWN [19:44] schestowitz-TR [15:33] Many fools give away far too much personal data about themselves, wrongly assuming corporate and state benevolence https://www.maketecheasier.com/location-data-cdc-track-covid/ [19:44] TR Bot Location Data Used by CDC to Track COVID Compliance - Make Tech Easier [19:44] bnchs__ it will be thin clients connectd to the clown [19:45] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:45] Skywave i am looking at movements like the Pythagoreans and the Knights Templar for inspiration, i think this will have to become a new kind of techno-ascensionist religion, like the Adeptus Mechanicus from 40k. [19:45] TR News 5G-like hype. Meh. Boring. https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/04/qualcomm_sampling_wifi_7_silicon/ [19:45] TR Bot Qualcomm sampling Wi-Fi 7 silicon The Register [19:45] TR News 5 Ways to Make Your Photos as Wallpaper Slideshow in Ubuntu 22.04 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164474 [19:45] TR Bot 5 Ways to Make Your Photos as Wallpaper Slideshow in Ubuntu 22.04 | Tux Machines [19:45] Skywave bnchs__, clown wut? [19:45] TR News Auto-save in GEdit vs the new GNOME Text Editor Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164475 [19:45] TR Bot Auto-save in GEdit vs the new GNOME Text Editor | Tux Machines [19:45] bnchs__ the cloud [19:45] bnchs__ but i call it clown [19:46] schestowitz-TR clown storage [19:46] Skywave the cloud is a meme term that is right now used by evil corporations for evil purposes. [19:46] schestowitz-TR we use clown chat [19:46] schestowitz-TR on the clown computer [19:46] Skywave i want everyone to have like IPFS stuff. [19:46] Skywave this will require ubiquitous high-speed internet, massive storage capacity, and powerful-enough hardware. [19:46] Skywave we are getting there eventually i think. [19:46] Skywave https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skywave [19:46] TR Bot Skywave - Wikipedia [19:46] schestowitz-TR we have hit bottlenecks in ipfs ages ago [19:46] Skywave i want a global uncensorable communications network eventually. [19:46] schestowitz-TR mostly b/w [19:46] Skywave yes. [19:46] schestowitz-TR ipfs is a pig [19:46] Skywave i just like the idea. [19:47] Skywave i download everything first, use later. [19:47] Skywave the consoomer mode-set is completely beyond me. [19:47] Skywave i've been an opportunistic hoarder ever since i was a kid, i have every page i ever visited, saved. [19:47] Skywave i have like 100TB of data. [19:47] Skywave people go on some page, read something, and that's it. no. i want to download everything i put into my mind first. [19:47] Skywave how people do not have that instinct, i never understood. [19:47] psydroid2 thin clients connecting to the clown is what they want us to think of as the only possibility, but that's not what is actually going to happen [19:47] Skywave psydroid2, yes. [19:47] TR News Ubuntu identifying as clown garbage https://ubuntu.com//blog/cost-optimised-private-cloud-for-financial-services just say SERVERS. [19:47] TR Bot optimised private cloud for financial services | Ubuntu [19:48] Skywave i want everyone to have massive servers basically and connect to one another over darknets. true decentralization. [19:48] Skywave most things in this world are evil. [19:48] Skywave even matter itself is evil. [19:48] InxI Skywave just download the internet [19:48] TR News "In this video, I am going to show how to install Ubuntu Kylin 22.04 LTS." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=n8tf_LAPIuY [19:48] TR Bot How to install Ubuntu Kylin 22.04 LTS - Invidious [19:48] InxI i downloaded wikipedia once [19:48] Skywave most human information is worthless, and only of emotional significance to the people who got exposed to it. i don't care about downloading the internet, only what _i_ experienced. [19:49] Skywave but yes me too. [19:49] Skywave i have crawled a bunch of stuff opportunistically. if i like someone's video i'll get their channel over yt-dlp etc. [19:49] Skywave but i still fully understand most of that information is completely irrelevant beyond the human. [19:49] schestowitz-TR Skywave: I used to save a lot, but it's a pain to maintain [19:49] Skywave we are in the pre-history of post-humanism. [19:49] schestowitz-TR 100TB of storage is expensive [19:49] schestowitz-TR never mind backups [19:49] Skywave schestowitz-TR, i just get more HDDs. [19:49] Skywave few backups. [19:49] Skywave it is like 5$/month. [19:49] schestowitz-TR 5TB is about 100 pounds [19:50] schestowitz-TR and might last 10 years [19:50] schestowitz-TR so that's like 2000 pounds for 100TB [19:50] schestowitz-TR and again after 10 years [19:50] Skywave in 10y we'll have even bigger drives. [19:50] schestowitz-TR not counting backups [19:50] Skywave i archived some 1TB drives on 4TB drives a few years back, that cost the same. [19:50] schestowitz-TR I do the same, but not at the scale of 100 [19:50] InxI hopefully there will be DNA archival soon [19:50] schestowitz-TR my biggest drivce has 4tb [19:51] schestowitz-TR InxI: waste of space [19:51] Skywave it does take some money but it is not beyond the reach of everyone. many people waste a lot of money on things much less important than digital preservation. [19:51] InxI you can have the hole of the internet in a grain of sand [19:51] schestowitz-TR better to find a way to stop wars soon [19:51] Skywave yes a teaspoon or so. [19:51] bnchs__ i download channels to a DVD [19:51] bnchs__ or 2 [19:51] Skywave schestowitz-TR, i agree. repurpose humanity into a new species. [19:51] schestowitz-TR ot nobody will be left to store or even use the DNA [19:51] Skywave fellow posthumanist. [19:51] Skywave i think human beings are a failed species. [19:52] Skywave the only redeeming aspect we have is our ability to maybe build something better than ourselves. [19:52] Skywave it is like a higher lifeform cursed us, giving intellect. a bunch of neocortically-advanced monkeys. [19:52] Skywave Vernor Vinge talks about these things. [19:52] schestowitz-TR who? [19:52] InxI we need to creat the GOD like AI before we go MAD [19:52] Skywave AGI will create completely new "humans", Human 2.0 [19:52] Skywave a big inspiration to many AGI researchers. [19:53] Skywave Ben Goertzel behind OpenCog, Hugo de Garis. [19:53] schestowitz-TR why human 2.0? [19:53] bnchs__ i don't want to be a human 2.0 [19:53] schestowitz-TR what are humans good for? [19:53] schestowitz-TR why not some other animal species? [19:53] bnchs__ or whatever human-created humans [19:53] Skywave i agree. [19:53] Skywave it is mostly an idea, something at least not human 1.0. [19:53] schestowitz-TR look who leads the species [19:53] bnchs__ ok that sounded weird [19:53] Skywave "human" in name only. [19:53] schestowitz-TR a bunch of 80s years olds and perverts who want yougn flesh [19:53] Skywave yes it's cringe. [19:54] schestowitz-TR and sociopaths mostly [19:54] schestowitz-TR like the fraud and liar Musk... or gates [19:54] InxI bnchs__ you wont be you can make an upgraded clone of your self [19:54] Skywave the problem is that our elites probably aren't sociopath _enough_. the worst of all worlds. [19:54] schestowitz-TR this is what alphamale culture gravitates towards [19:54] schestowitz-TR sociopathy [19:54] Skywave cringeopathy. [19:54] bnchs__ that's also cringe [19:54] Skywave i am not married to silicon, or wetware. [19:55] Skywave i want substrate-independent cognition. [19:55] Skywave if the quantum vibrations in brain microtubules are good enough tech for the next several tens of thousands of years, then we'll have biological brains, whatever. [19:55] Skywave brains are just hardware, the rest of the body is there to move it around. [19:55] TR News You can almost assume this has back doors, as that's what VMware does https://unixcop.com/photon-os-on-vsphere/ [19:55] TR Bot Photon OS on vSphere - Unix / Linux the admins Tutorials [19:56] bnchs__ the idea of robot humanoid wives are insane [19:56] Skywave yes. [19:56] Skywave it is some of the dumbest **** ever. [19:56] Skywave the cringiest thing unimaginable. [19:56] Skywave imagine making artificial intelligence only to please some monkey senses. [19:56] Skywave disgusting. [19:56] bnchs__ it's made by people who can't deal with human females [19:56] TR News "Linux kernel versions 5.17 (March 21, 2022), 5.16.11 (February 23, 2022) and 5.15.35 (April 20, 2022) included a patch to fix the s0ix sleep entry issue on AMD processors, resulting in spontaneous freezes" https://linuxstoney.com/hanging-of-32-bit-processors-on-linux-kernels-branches-5-15-5-17/ [19:56] Skywave yes. [19:56] TR Bot of 32-bit processors on Linux kernels branches 5.15-5.17 - LinuxStoney [19:57] Skywave human sexuality is messed up in general. [19:57] Skywave traditionalism et.al. [19:57] schestowitz-TR [19:55] brains are just hardware, the rest of the body is there to move it around. [19:57] schestowitz-TR not necessarily [19:57] bnchs__ and ever since i heard it (on 4chan) i knew it was absolutely pathetic [19:57] Skywave it's an old meme, to be fair. [19:57] schestowitz-TR you could reverse it to say the pump of air and bloods are the core [19:57] schestowitz-TR and the brain helps as their controller [19:58] Skywave yes. [19:58] Skywave i just think that it is much easier to theoretically replace _everything else_ than the brain. [19:58] Skywave right now, the entire organism is one unit. [19:58] Skywave a brain outside of its humanoid body might even go insane. [19:58] Skywave i want quadrillions of isolated-brain cylinders for instance. [19:58] schestowitz-TR we have dialysis [19:58] Skywave fuel with proper nutrient infusions etc and connect into a hivemind. [19:58] Skywave welp yes i mean full-on sci-fi cyborgs. [19:59] Skywave brain the only biological thing in a completely mechanical exoskeleton. [19:59] schestowitz-TR anyway, animal design is miles ahead of human-made tech [19:59] schestowitz-TR compare a bee to a processor [19:59] Skywave yes absolutely agree. [19:59] *CrystalMath (~coderain@2y67ajwccuc9s.irc) has joined #techrights [19:59] Skywave biology fascinates me. [19:59] Skywave know thy enemy. [19:59] schestowitz-TR which one can fly, reproduce, make decisions, and is also a lot smaller? ● May 04 [20:00] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/22050111 [20:00] Skywave it is possible the silicon AI stuff will never even materialize, that we'll always need _some_ kind of biotech. i am also fine with that. [20:00] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/9fbhcrkfumw81.jpg created on 2022-05-01 03:46:00.788286 [20:00] Skywave digital technology as it exists is just glorified calculators. [20:00] Skywave abacus etc. [20:00] schestowitz-TR we mostly do mechanical hot swaps [20:00] schestowitz-TR but the rest is beyond our ability to repair [20:00] schestowitz-TR stuff like prosthetic [20:01] Skywave proprietary iHand. [20:01] schestowitz-TR the bodies are also self-repairing [20:01] Skywave to some extent. [20:01] bnchs__ schestowitz-TR, animals are designed pretty well [20:01] schestowitz-TR our tech rarely has any mechanism like that, except metaphorically [20:01] bnchs__ unlike human-made tech [20:01] Skywave well yes. right now nothing like that exists. [20:01] Skywave human beings can't solve human problems. [20:01] Skywave only posthuman beings can. [20:01] bnchs__ that's basically what i was thinking these days [20:02] Skywave we are 1 step forward 2 steps back. [20:02] schestowitz-TR reproduction is important [20:02] schestowitz-TR we just do MASS production [20:02] schestowitz-TR more and more crap that breaks a month after waranteee runs out [20:02] Skywave i like experimental gene recombination, sure. [20:02] bnchs__ human-made tech is more flawed than animal design [20:02] schestowitz-TR it's so "smart" it "knows" when ti break [20:02] Skywave same-sex and multi-partner offspring, sperm/eggs from skin cells, artificial wombs, human cloning. [20:03] schestowitz-TR most humans still want to live forever [20:04] schestowitz-TR so they take on burden like many offspring [20:04] schestowitz-TR so they never "love" [20:04] schestowitz-TR *live [20:04] schestowitz-TR they die faster [20:04] schestowitz-TR and poorer [20:04] Skywave i think people misunderstand immortality. [20:04] Skywave genetics recombine endlessly, and over time will form more or less comparable human beings. and then humans build institutions and develop certain ideas, which they read and reflash their brains so to speak. [20:04] SomeH4x0r living forever will lead to eventually getting bored [20:05] Skywave not necessarily, it would require tinkering with the neural architecture though. [20:05] Skywave so to create mental calculators for example that couldn't _feel_ boredom. [20:05] SomeH4x0r I am supporting players on UplinkIRC. Then WolfLord dies and UplinkIRC goes down. Or Steam dies a while later. [20:06] SomeH4x0r IRC will die. Old computers will die. I will have nothing to do. [20:06] Skywave what allows people to have the kind of energy to be upbeat and go to work designing nuclear weapons now is a kind of insipid insidious monkey supremacism. i never understood it. [20:06] bnchs__ SomeH4x0r, a protocol won't die [20:06] Skywave well that's a bit grim and dark SomeH4x0r xD [20:06] SomeH4x0r and for the rest of the "immortal" life I will be bored [20:06] bnchs__ as long as the protocol specification still exists [20:07] Skywave there will be other things you'll be able to do eventually, the mind always changes. [20:07] bnchs__ and software implementing it exists [20:07] Skywave every day neuroplasticity changes brain connections. [20:07] TR News IBM Red Hat values money, not tech https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/5/5-harvard-business-review-articles-will-resonate-cios-right-now [20:07] TR Bot 5 Harvard Business Review articles that will resonate with CIOs right now | The Enterprisers Project [20:07] Skywave do not feel too attached to things, everything changes. [20:07] Skywave what doesn't change is some eternal principles, philosophy. [20:07] SomeH4x0r a protocol as a thing is not the same thing as its representation in the real world. Papers do burn, computers do break. [20:07] SomeH4x0r eventually it will be forgotten [20:08] Skywave i lost some online friends a decade ago and it felt awful for me too, but i eventually found other things to do anyway. [20:08] TR News "Remember when IT leaders and tech pundits endlessly debated the meaning of the word cloud?" Meaningless, shitty, misleading buzzword. We should condemn people who peddle it. https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/5/managed-services-vs-hosted-services-vs-cloud-services [20:08] TR Bot Managed services vs. hosted services vs. cloud services: What's the difference? | The Enterprisers Project [20:08] Skywave i primarily want to learn, not to make friends. i would ideally make friends who also want to learn, that would be the best. but knowledge always comes first. [20:09] Skywave i have other sources of satiating my knowledge if the internet stops. [20:09] Skywave way too many books, for example. [20:09] Skywave language is consciousness. as long as i read, i'm happy. [20:09] Skywave (or to be more precise i can't be sad) [20:10] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@s44cwn8sugddy.irc) has joined #techrights [20:12] TR News Red Hat is promoting Microsoft's vendor lock-in and proprietary prison, which is self-harming and self-discrediting https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/05/04/schedule-tests-gitops-way-testing-farm-github-action [20:12] TR Bot Schedule tests the GitOps way with Testing Farm as GitHub Action | Red Hat Developer [20:13] TR News Red Hat Satellite 6.10.5 has been released https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hat-satellite-6105-has-been-released Source: Red Hat | ICBM | GNU | Linux [20:13] TR Bot Red Hat Satellite 6.10.5 has been released [20:14] TR News Fedora only publishes site statistics when they're not embarrassingly low https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/community-blog-monthly-summary-april-2022/ [20:14] TR Bot Community Blog monthly summary: April 2022 Fedora Community Blog [20:16] TR News GNOME Foundation Board, like OSI, works for the giant corporations https://feborg.es/gnome-foundation-board-elections-2022/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/GNOME_Foundation [20:16] TR Bot GNOME Foundation Board Elections 2022 Felipe Borges [20:16] TR Bot GNOME Foundation - Techrights [20:16] *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: Leaving) [20:17] *alextee has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:23] TR News IBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164476 [20:23] TR Bot IBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers | Tux Machines [20:29] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:29] *rianne (~rianne@s44cwn8sugddy.irc) has joined #techrights [20:32] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/22043015 [20:32] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/tdiwbkdaisv81.jpg created on 2022-04-30 08:17:51.710183 [20:33] *alextee (~alextee@dexiw29c8htcg.irc) has joined #techrights [20:34] XRevan86 https://nitter.eu/kamilkazani/status/1521477751210971140 [20:34] TR Bot Kamil Galeev (@kamilkazani): ""Why not peace with Hitler?" "Arm Britain and prolong war" "Lend-lease, lose-lives" "Europe for Europeans, America for Americans" "Stay out of South America, Europe, War" Videotape of an anti-war march in NYC July 7, 1941. Pretty much the same arguments as the ones we hear today" | nitter [20:35] TR News mesa 22.1.0-rc4 https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/mesa-dev/2022-May/225767.html [20:35] TR Bot [ANNOUNCE] mesa 22.1.0-rc4 [20:41] TR News The problem here is Microsoft Mono https://yewtu.be/watch?v=oYaftsMtbNo Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia [20:41] TR Bot Playing with Unity Landscape Generation - Invidious [20:42] *teucer_ (~teucer@ude3wyut6eqne.irc) has joined #techrights [20:46] TR News "Hello and welcome to the 465th installment of Linux in the Ham Shack. In this episode, the hosts discuss the latest long-term-support release of Ubuntu, 22.04, otherwise known as Jammy Jellyfish" https://lhspodcast.info/2022/05/lhs-episode-465-ubuntu-22-04-lts-deep-dive-3/ [20:46] TR Bot LHS Episode #465: Ubuntu 22.04 LTS Deep Dive | Linux in the Ham Shack [20:47] TR News It won't last 3 years. 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[21:01] TR News "plus: problems with charging the battery constantly dead." https://dwaves.de/2022/05/04/last-time-siemens-tried-to-build-a-mobile-phone/ [21:01] TR Bot last time Siemens tried to build a mobile phone | dwaves.de [21:02] TR News Windows 95 was (not) so great THE most beautiful (?) errors an OS EVER produced https://dwaves.de/2022/05/04/windows-95-was-not-so-great-the-most-beautiful-errors-an-os-ever-produced/ [21:02] TR Bot Windows 95 was (not) so great THE most beautiful (?) errors an OS EVER produced | dwaves.de [21:03] MinceR lol [21:04] TR News First Real Madrid-Man City match was nonstop action? This second lag is a snooze. Hardly any good chances. Cagey. [21:05] TR News "An attacker could exploit CVE-2022-1388 to take control of an affected system." https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/05/04/f5-releases-security-advisories-addressing-multiple [21:05] TR Bot F5 Releases Security Advisories Addressing Multiple Vulnerabilities | CISA [21:06] TR News "Mozilla has released security updates to address vulnerabilities in Firefox and Firefox ESR. An attacker could exploit some of these vulnerabilities to take control of an affected system." https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/05/04/mozilla-releases-security-updates-firefox-and-firefox-esr https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/advisories/mfsa2022-16/ [21:06] TR Bot Mozilla Releases Security Updates for Firefox and Firefox ESR | CISA [21:06] TR Bot Security Vulnerabilities fixed in Firefox 100 Mozilla [21:07] AdmFubar https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/spacex-texas-starbase-piping-plover [21:07] TR Bot Starbase hurts endangered species, FWS docs show - Protocol [21:07] TR News Kernel: Mesa 22.1.0 RC4,, 32-Bit Issues, and Peer Software Targets Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164480 [21:07] TR Bot Kernel: Mesa 22.1.0 RC4,, 32-Bit Issues, and Peer Software Targets Linux | Tux Machines [21:07] TR News Deb-Get is Apt-Get for 3rd-Party Ubuntu Software Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164481 [21:07] TR Bot Deb-Get is Apt-Get for 3rd-Party Ubuntu Software | Tux Machines [21:07] AdmFubar https://www.protocol.com/newsletters/policy/tech-abortion-snitch-culture [21:07] TR Bot data will will be used against abortion seekers - Protocol [21:18] TR News Links 04/05/2022: Proxmox Virtual Environment 7.2 and openmediavault 6 (Shaitan) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/04/proxmox-virtual-environment-7-2-released/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/04/proxmox-virtual-environment-7-2-released/ [21:18] TR Bot Links 04/05/2022: Proxmox Virtual Environment 7.2 and openmediavault 6 (Shaitan) | Techrights [21:18] TR News Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164482 [21:18] TR Bot today's leftovers | Tux Machines [21:21] TR News "We consistently follow the upstream release cadence to provide our users and customers with the latest improvements and fixes" https://ubuntu.com//blog/canonical%EF%BB%BF-kubernetes-1-24-is-now-generally-available | Source: Ubuntu [21:21] TR Bot Kubernetes 1.24 is now generally available | Ubuntu [21:22] TR News Community??? "Trending content is surfaced so you can easily engage with community discussions" https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/whats-new-red-hat-customer-portal | Source: Red Hat Official [21:22] TR Bot Whats new on the Red Hat Customer Portal [21:23] TR News "try to reduce management tools proliferation" says the systemd company... https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/integrate-red-hat-insights-your-existing-operational-workflow | Source: Red Hat Official [21:23] TR Bot Integrate Red Hat Insights into your existing operational workflow [21:24] TR News "Another big milestone has been hit for the Steam Deck from Valve." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/05/steam-deck-hits-2500-games-verified-or-playable/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [21:24] TR Bot Deck hits 2,500 games Verified or Playable | GamingOnLinux [21:24] TR News "Love some retro action-platformer to fill your time? Janosik quite a popular one, likely because it's free, and it just got a big upgrade." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/05/free-and-popular-precision-platformer-janosik-gets-a-big-upgrade/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [21:24] TR Bot and popular precision-platformer 'Janosik' gets a big upgrade | GamingOnLinux [21:25] TR News The deb-get tool helps Ubuntu (and derivative distro) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164481#comment-33548 [21:25] TR Bot Deb-Get is Apt-Get for 3rd-Party Ubuntu Software | Tux Machines [21:26] *cybrNaut has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [21:26] *ciphrCat has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:27] TR News "MangoHud is something that Valve use on the Steam Deck, specifically for the performance HUD that shows various details like FPS, frame timing, temperatures and more." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/05/linux-gaming-overlay-mangohud-has-a-new-release/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [21:27] TR Bot gaming overlay MangoHud has a new release | GamingOnLinux [21:27] TR News "While Valve has yet to actually release a proper iso for SteamOS 3 used on the Steam Deck, others have been taking it into their own hands to provide, like with the new HoloISO." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/05/holoiso-brings-valves-steamos-3-from-the-steam-deck-to-everyone/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [21:27] TR Bot brings Valve's SteamOS 3 from the Steam Deck to everyone | GamingOnLinux [21:28] TR News "With great brevity comes great responsibility." gemini://gemini.circumlunar.space/users/adiabatic/scrawlspace/ [21:29] *bnchs (~bnchs@u66kcvn529u46.irc) has joined #techrights [21:29] SomeH4x0r hi [21:30] TR News GNU/Linux preloaded https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/05/star-labs-add-an-amd-ryzen-option-to-the-starbook-mk-v/ [21:30] TR Bot Labs add an AMD Ryzen option to the StarBook Mk V | GamingOnLinux [21:30] bnchs hey [21:30] TR News "Kodi (originally XBMC), is a free and open source media center and entertainment hub, and the latest release up on Flathub adds in support for the Steam Deck controller" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/05/media-center-and-entertainment-hub-kodi-adds-steam-deck-controls-support/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [21:30] TR Bot center and entertainment hub Kodi adds Steam Deck controls support | GamingOnLinux [21:30] SomeH4x0r still nothing on UplinkIRC [21:31] SomeH4x0r (aside my talks with other people) [21:31] TR News "Master Linux" says ICBM sponsored site. Will ICBM vomit in its mouth a little? https://www.techrepublic.com/article/master-linux-docker-before-next-boom/ [21:31] TR Bot Linux and Docker before the next Linux adoption boom | TechRepublic [21:34] AdmFubar https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/hackers-stole-data-undetected-from-us-european-orgs-since-2019/ [21:34] TR Bot Hackers stole data undetected from US, European orgs since 2019 [21:35] schestowitz haha [21:35] schestowitz cars have killed people since 2019 [21:38] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:39] bnchs https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/hackers-stole-data-undetected-from-us-european-orgs-since-2019/ [21:39] bnchs pickpocket increased to 100 [21:39] bnchs sneak increased to 100 [21:40] bnchs windows is not for security [21:42] TR News 4th Man City win (in a row) against Real Madrid? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVeMcseUwLM [21:42] TR Bot https://invidious.namazso.eu/watch?v=wVeMcseUwLM [21:42] TR Bot invidious.namazso.eu | Real Madrid Vs Manchester City (0-1) Gol de Marhez | Champions League - Invidious [21:42] TR News Games: Steam Deck, MangoHud, HoloISO, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164483 [21:42] TR Bot Games: Steam Deck, MangoHud, HoloISO, and More | Tux Machines [21:45] bnchs https://github.com/jamiebuilds/anti-fascist-mit-license [21:45] TR Bot - jamiebuilds/anti-fascist-mit-license: MIT license with additional text to prohibit use by fascists [21:45] bnchs YOU MUST NOT BECOME A FASCIST [21:46] bnchs but my program is open source [21:46] bnchs BUT NO FASCISTS!!! [21:46] bnchs schestowitz, ^ [21:47] bnchs but don't worry: nothing of value was lost [21:47] bnchs because he's a webdev [21:47] *ciphrCat (~ciphrCat@v75kd7krrqfvs.irc) has joined #techrights [21:47] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:49] *cybrNaut (~cybrNaut@freenode-tto.k1n.ssv8hv.IP) has joined #techrights [21:51] TR News AlmaLinux 9 beta has arrived, and it means business | TechRepublic http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163920#comment-33550 [21:51] TR Bot AlmaLinux 9 Beta--Now Available | Tux Machines [21:54] TR News A cautionary tale about locking Linux & FreeBSD user accounts https://www.cyberciti.biz/networking/a-cautionary-tale-about-locking-linux-freebsd-user-accounts/ [21:54] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.cyberciti.biz/networking/a-cautionary-tale-about-locking-linux-freebsd-user-accounts/ ) [21:54] TR News Fedora 36 Release Has Been Delayed for the Second Time Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164484 [21:54] TR Bot Fedora 36 Release Has Been Delayed for the Second Time | Tux Machines [21:55] TR News PGConf.be : Speakers and schedule online https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/pgconfbe-speakers-and-schedule-online-2446/ [21:55] TR Bot PostgreSQL: PGConf.be : Speakers and schedule online ● May 04 [22:01] chicksahoy an anti-fascist software license seems pretty cool [22:02] *zleap has quit (Quit: Leaving) [22:02] chicksahoy im sad that fedora was delayed :( [22:03] bnchs and pretty non-free [22:04] chicksahoy fascists can die in a fire for all i care [22:09] bnchs but a non-free license won't help [22:11] chicksahoy also, a lot of fascists probably don't consider themselves fascist [22:11] chicksahoy ".. we're not facist! we're conservative!" [22:13] bnchs chicksahoy, i know [22:13] bnchs but really this non-free license will only make the software in question less used [22:13] bnchs because license conflicts [22:18] MinceR "we're not fascist! we're fascist!" [22:20] activelow next famine, see then who is and who isn't [22:22] activelow anyway, decision made, i'll remove gnome glib too [22:23] MinceR no need to wait until then [22:23] activelow i will miss midnight command and irssi [22:23] bnchs "you use sixel" [22:23] MinceR just check who are the "conservative" allies of fideath and PiS when they turned two republics into dictatorships [22:23] bnchs "but what if they want X11" [22:23] MinceR s/are/were/ [22:23] bnchs "you tell them kindly to leave" [22:24] MinceR not one of them raised their voices about it. not one of them broke alliance with either of them. [22:31] TR News From Belarus With Love Part XIII: Marat Ebzeev Tries to Defuse the Situation | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/04/marat-ebzeev-sam/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/04/marat-ebzeev-sam/ [22:31] TR Bot From Belarus With Love Part XIII: Marat Ebzeev Tries to Defuse the Situation | Techrights [22:32] DaemonFC https://www.vice.com/en/article/5db4ad/google-bans-safegraph-former-saudi-intelligence [22:32] TR Bot Google Bans Location Data Firm Funded by Former Saudi Intelligence Head [22:33] DaemonFC schestowitz, The company that was selling the location data on people who went to abortion clinics is operated by Saudi intelligence officials and Peter Thiel. [22:33] DaemonFC And Google (but not Apple) banned it in June of last year. [22:33] DaemonFC Of course, more companies could be doing the same thing. [22:33] schestowitz-TR proxies [22:33] DaemonFC The CDC was paying them to monitor "compliance" with their COVID-19 decrees. [22:33] *guysoft42 (~guysoft@2a0d:6fc1:2:1f00:51c4:c025:a010:301a) has joined #techrights [22:34] DaemonFC I finally watched the last season of The Strain. [22:35] DaemonFC When The Master lost Eichorst (a Nazi concentration camp official who he turned to a Strigoi) he eventually put a former head of the CDC in charge of his "final solution". [22:35] DaemonFC Very appropriate. [22:36] DaemonFC https://www.vice.com/en/article/pkpnpy/dababy-felony-battery-assault-charge-is-the-latest-in-a-long-history-of-controversies [22:36] TR Bot DaBaby's Felony Battery Charge Is the Latest in a Long History of Controversies [22:36] MinceR very different from the STRAIN i played :> [22:36] DaemonFC He's black and rich. That's how he gets away with the shit. [22:36] MinceR https://doomwiki.org/wiki/STRAIN [22:36] TR Bot - The Doom Wiki at DoomWiki.org [22:36] DaemonFC Anything terrible he does just draws attention to his career. [22:36] DaemonFC People will even applaud it. [22:37] TR News Chart: Only Lockdowns Have Stopped COVID-19 From Spreading http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/05/04/covid-test-case-ratio/ [22:37] TR Bot Blog Archive Chart: Only Lockdowns Have Stopped COVID-19 From Spreading [22:37] DaemonFC A month later, we get to hear about the Will Smith slapping incident. [22:37] DaemonFC Like what kind of a man slaps someone. [22:37] DaemonFC "I'm gonna slap you! I'm gonna slap you so hard!" [22:38] MinceR i'm guessing the kind that wants to cause more pain than damage [22:38] DaemonFC Well if it's the same crime anyway, just punch them for god's sake. [22:38] DaemonFC Go big or go home. [22:39] MinceR s/punch/stab/ [22:39] InxI that wasn't a slap [22:40] InxI it was a cinematic punch [22:40] *guysoft42 has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [22:42] DaemonFC "The Dow was up 700 points." soon after a half point rate hike. [22:42] DaemonFC Remember them saying that rate hikes would cause a collapse and they needed to remain low to keep the stock market going? [22:42] DaemonFC Remember that? [22:53] *alextee has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:57] InxI s/stab/vacine [22:57] *matey (~matey@d7sdgnav4ftfi.irc) has joined #techrights ● May 04 [23:00] MinceR (cat) (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsFTAJTEZGQ [23:00] TR Bot https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=JsFTAJTEZGQ [23:00] TR Bot invidious.snopyta.org | Black cat gets close to the camera and purrs very loudly - Invidious [23:09] *alextee (~alextee@37nedm8cyafpe.irc) has joined #techrights [23:13] InxI freaking cats [23:13] MinceR :) [23:14] InxI im a mouse person [23:14] *wallacer has quit (Quit: wallace dozed off) [23:14] MinceR i just use mice [23:14] *wallacer (~quassel@6bsu33ajs4zs4.irc) has joined #techrights [23:17] bnchs who the fuck is wallace [23:17] InxI have you tested positive for https://www.cdc.gov/parasites/toxoplasmosis/index.html [23:17] TR Bot CDC - Toxoplasmosis [23:18] MinceR no [23:18] psydroid2 william wallacer the sixelth [23:18] MinceR williamr wallacer [23:18] wallacer William Wallacer XV [23:18] wallacer maybe [23:19] wallacer Wallacer Wllliams XV perhaps [23:19] MinceR :) [23:20] InxI "Toxoplasmosis: A pathway to neuropsychiatric disorders". [23:20] InxI it makes mouse not to fear cats [23:21] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:21] bnchs i was thinking of a different wallace [23:22] MinceR i'm not a mouse [23:22] bnchs when i read your name [23:23] InxI https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1690701/ [23:23] TR Bot Fatal attraction in rats infected with Toxoplasma gondii. - PMC [23:24] MinceR i'm also not a rat [23:24] InxI it infects people yoo [23:24] InxI too [23:24] schestowitz-TR said the rats [23:25] InxI MinceR is a rat [23:26] InxI sif i had a mouse pet id named it mincer [23:26] MinceR well, there were a couple mice i did throw out the window [23:26] InxI :] [23:27] MinceR they got trapped in the mouse trap [23:27] MinceR after a while they stopped coming back [23:27] InxI mouse trap? you must live in a dumpster [23:27] MinceR something like that [23:27] MinceR though the comrades called it an "apartment" [23:28] MinceR they never had to live in one, of course [23:28] MinceR they moved into villas after throwing out their predecessors [23:29] bnchs minceraft [23:31] *matey has quit (connection closed) [23:32] *matey (~matey@sibgmb3jcuva4.irc) has joined #techrights [23:32] InxI why did you do that? [23:32] MinceR why did i do what [23:32] InxI matey [23:33] InxI matey = comrade in english [23:33] MinceR comrade is already in english [23:33] matey 00DA [23:34] InxI australian english [23:34] matey /me thinks the hex codepoint for hammer and sickle unicode should be DADA but thats dadaist [23:35] InxI and the star? [23:36] InxI or the star is just bling [23:36] matey and obviously the hex codepoint for cow unicode should be BEEF [23:36] matey and the codepoint for the windows flag should be B00B [23:37] InxI X) [23:37] MinceR 0D 0A [23:37] InxI this must be the debian emogi [23:38] matey for years i used a tom petty song (and frankenstein reference) to remember which order the hexcodes for windows/dos newlines went [23:38] matey (boris) CRLF [23:38] matey LF is 10 of course, but in hex thats 0A [23:39] matey i only needed this reference because i dealt with CR+LF that often, and i didnt want to get them mixed up 1/3 of the time [23:40] *alextee has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:40] InxI hexcodes are for people who cant talk binary [23:41] MinceR (long) (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxmiSRD0ZqU [23:41] TR Bot https://y.com.sb/watch?v=OxmiSRD0ZqU [23:41] TR Bot y.com.sb | George Carlin -- It's Bad for You -- 1080p Remaster - Invidious [23:41] MinceR also for people who don't have time to talk binary [23:48] InxI George Carlin is just a grumpy old man [23:49] MinceR no [23:49] MinceR he was a funny grumpy old man [23:49] MinceR now he's just dead [23:49] InxI i dont think he even think his jokes are funny [23:50] matey most people cant pull off dead in a funny way [23:50] InxI is like those people that use jokes as a way to say vile crap with out the social outrage [23:50] matey eric morcambe died in a funny way (sort of) [23:51] matey i thought it was sad, but he might have thought it was funny (after the fact... if possible) [23:51] schestowitz-TR carlin was a commentator [23:51] schestowitz-TR he used humour and tone to deliver it well [23:51] matey morcambe died on stage of a heart attack [23:51] matey everyone thought it was a bit, they were hysterical [23:51] schestowitz-TR iirc, his parents (or one of them) was a journalist [23:51] InxI commentator? like sports? [23:51] schestowitz-TR so the family had strong views, sans the jokes [23:51] matey now journalism is a big joke [23:51] schestowitz-TR he comments on language and society [23:52] matey he said if ptsd was still called "shell shock" maybe people suffering from it would get more help [23:52] MinceR although he did say once that he was not an "old man" but an "old fuck" [23:53] psydruid oh, you are actually talking about this guy [23:53] psydruid https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/44916496 [23:53] TR Bot Fife 4 Forfar 5 - the comedy result that finally came true (on penalties) - BBC Sport [23:54] InxI yes it seems is unable to put together a sentence with out expelatives [23:54] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [23:54] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [23:54] InxI or maybe cause the public thinks it funnyer that way [23:55] bnchs sixel [23:55] MinceR maybe you'd think it's funnier if you removed the stick from your ass :> [23:56] *alextee (~alextee@dexiw29c8htcg.irc) has joined #techrights [23:56] matey /me tries to imagine a world where no one has a stick in their arse [23:56] InxI he said hes 69 with a stick up his ass [23:57] InxI so that explains why he dosent even think his jokes are funny [23:57] matey for starters there would be no copyright lawyers [23:58] matey and the record industry in general would be quite different [23:58] matey alex jones would not exist [23:58] matey thats okay [23:59] InxI alex jones should not exist [23:59] matey trump would still have supporters, but not enough to constitute political power