●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, July 04, 2023 ●●
● Jul 04
[00:00]	TR News	A Record 100,000 People in New York Homeless Shelters https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/28/nyregion/nyc-homeless-shelter-population.html
[00:00]	TR Bot	 A Record 100,000 People in New York Homeless Shelters - The New York Times
[00:01]	schestowitz[TR]	starstreak: http://techrights.org/2020/08/14/control-but-no-accountability/
[00:01]	TR Bot	 High-Level Criminals Associate Privacy With Crime Because They Want Privacy Only for Themselves (Control But No Accountability) | Techrights
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[00:08]	DaemonFC	Got some Burger King coupons. Still at the January price.
[00:08]	DaemonFC	They experimented with raising everything by 50 cents or $1 one month and then went right back.
[00:08]	TR News	"I was at my local GP for an unrelated issue, when as a matter of procedure he checked my ears. In short, he claimed I probably had compromised hearing for quite some time. It would muffle sound, make vertigo from migraines worse, and would make flight landings more painful." https://rubenerd.com/when-have-you-checked-your-ears/
[00:08]	TR Bot	When have you checked your ears?
[00:09]	TR News	"Same tax, same treatment, that's what we're saying" https://yle.fi/a/74-20038684
[00:09]	TR Bot	 Protesters march over government immigration plans | News | Yle Uutiset
[00:09]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: Taxation is an "or else" so it's not a matter of customer service.
[00:10]	TR News	Rising National Income But Declining Welfare of People https://neritam.wordpress.com/2023/07/01/rising-national-income-but-declining-welfare-of-people/
[00:10]	TR Bot	 Rising National Income But Declining Welfare of People neritam
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[00:11]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: Measuring income in inflated dollars is not a sign of progress.
[00:11]	DaemonFC	If Mandy and I had this income in 1990 we'd have a two story 3 bed 2 bath house on a half an acre with an attached garage.
[00:12]	TR News	edtech = BUBBLE https://qz.com/india-s-biggest-edtech-startup-is-having-a-really-very-1850585247
[00:12]	TR Bot	 Byju's loan repayment, auditor, and board woes are mounting
[00:13]	TR News	Too many workers, or too few: Indias colossal employment challenge https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/south-asia/too-many-workers-or-too-few-india-s-colossal-employment-challenge
[00:13]	TR Bot	 Too many workers, or too few: Indias colossal employment challenge | The Straits Times
[00:13]	TR News	"In some places, educated young people are desperate for steady employment in the worlds most populous nation." https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/28/world/asia/india-workforce-economy.html
[00:13]	TR Bot	 Want One of Indias Best Jobs? You and 1,800 Other Applicants. - The New York Times
[00:13]	immibis	starstreak: the tor folks talk about this quite a lot. if more iranian grandmas use tor to visit facebook then mere use of tor is not suspicious
[00:14]	schestowitz[TR]	<DaemonFC> schestowitz[TR]: Measuring income in inflated dollars is not a sign of progress.
[00:14]	schestowitz[TR]	"skills shortage
[00:14]	schestowitz[TR]	"worker shortage"
[00:14]	schestowitz[TR]	"cooling inflation"
[00:15]	schestowitz[TR]	average joe:
[00:15]	schestowitz[TR]	wait...
[00:15]	schestowitz[TR]	so you're telling me about half of adults are out of work
[00:15]	schestowitz[TR]	and there is a shortage?
[00:15]	schestowitz[TR]	and you need to import labour from overseas?
[00:16]	schestowitz[TR]	media: let's talk about something like race
[00:16]	schestowitz[TR]	or how men compete with women in sports
[00:16]	schestowitz[TR]	oh oh oh! elon musk will wrestle zuckerfuck
[00:17]	DaemonFC	immibisstarstreak: the tor folks talk about this quite a lot. if more iranian grandmas use tor to visit facebook then mere use of tor is not suspicious
[00:17]	DaemonFC	ISIS AGORAPHOBIA LOVESMESOMECRUFT
[00:17]	DaemonFC	and DRGULAG
[00:18]	immibis	you are having a stroke
[00:18]	TR News	Well, "article count" says nothing at all about accuracy, quality, length etc. https://pressgazette.co.uk/publishing-services-content/how-indian-publisher-cut-costs-by-40-and-nearly-doubled-article-count/
[00:18]	TR Bot	 CMS investment pays off for Indian publisher with increased story count
[00:18]	immibis	call yourself an ambulance
[00:18]	schestowitz[TR]	expensive
[00:18]	schestowitz[TR]	in the US ambulance is a "product"
[00:19]	schestowitz[TR]	they bill you and will send debt collectors
[00:19]	schestowitz[TR]	the ER is also a big bill
[00:19]	DaemonFC	$7,000 to get three blocks.
[00:19]	DaemonFC	So still a little more than Uber.
[00:19]	schestowitz[TR]	"there go my savings"
[00:19]	bnchs	schestowitz[TR]: what about health insurance
[00:19]	schestowitz[TR]	one stroke, zero savings
[00:19]	DaemonFC	bnchsschestowitz[TR]: what about health insurance
[00:20]	schestowitz[TR]	bnchs: in the us it costs a fortune and covers too little
[00:20]	DaemonFC	LOL
[00:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-03.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-04.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[00:20]	DaemonFC	Okay, so maybe $2,500 for the ambulance then.
[00:20]	DaemonFC	They "negotiated".
[00:20]	schestowitz[TR]	for a family of 5 yyyou might end up paying 50k a year just for health insurance
[00:20]	DaemonFC	"Enjoy the discount!"
[00:20]	schestowitz[TR]	that actually covers all things
[00:21]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: my sister back to work
[00:21]	schestowitz[TR]	the currency is worth less
[00:21]	schestowitz[TR]	and for now she's still there
[00:21]	schestowitz[TR]	settling for little
[00:21]	schestowitz[TR]	"working for da man"
[00:22]	bnchs	schestowitz[TR]: well health insurance ive seen there covers a lot more than here lol
[00:22]	psydroid2	health insurance in the US is a scam
[00:23]	bnchs	and costs way less with tax credit
[00:23]	schestowitz[TR]	my project mate (pairs) at uni was from morocco
[00:23]	schestowitz[TR]	and his grandpa died
[00:23]	schestowitz[TR]	while we were studying
[00:24]	schestowitz[TR]	i think health coverage is scarce there, but did not check
[00:24]	bnchs	lol health coverage is shit here
[00:24]	schestowitz[TR]	the universal trend is, less covered
[00:24]	schestowitz[TR]	everywhere
[00:24]	schestowitz[TR]	not due to overpopulation
[00:24]	bnchs	even if you had cancer
[00:24]	bnchs	they will cover NOTHING
[00:24]	schestowitz[TR]	but a lack of capital, the few stole all the care and capital
[00:24]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: sudo make me a pizza sandwich... on a plane
[00:25]	bnchs	no insurance even covers medications btw
[00:25]	bnchs	here
[00:25]	bnchs	it's like you always pay for shit out-of-pocket
[00:25]	schestowitz[TR]	generics?
[00:26]	bnchs	generics cost less
[00:26]	bnchs	but they won't cover it
[00:26]	schestowitz[TR]	ah
[00:26]	schestowitz[TR]	at least nhs still tends to cover the cheap ones
[00:26]	bnchs	lol
[00:26]	schestowitz[TR]	they just make you wait in line
[00:26]	schestowitz[TR]	to discourage using the coverage
[00:26]	bnchs	health insurance here is just a wallet leecher
[00:27]	bnchs	they will pull all the excuses to cover nothing and take all your money while doing it
[00:27]	schestowitz[TR]	maybe health insurance covers ttthe salaries of health insurance administration
[00:27]	schestowitz[TR]	i.e. the paper pushes
[00:27]	schestowitz[TR]	meant to say there is "health insurance"
[00:27]	schestowitz[TR]	like police here (and elsewhere)
[00:27]	bnchs	so it's not "health insurance"
[00:27]	schestowitz[TR]	they "serve and protect"
[00:27]	schestowitz[TR]	they never serve and protect me
[00:27]	schestowitz[TR]	ever
[00:27]	schestowitz[TR]	they just give me a #
[00:28]	bnchs	it's just lives of the health insurance employees insurance
[00:28]	schestowitz[TR]	and then... you got a case #
[00:28]	schestowitz[TR]	and that's it
[00:28]	bnchs	you're paying so that they buy another car
[00:28]	DaemonFC	You need to used generics and GoodRX coupons.
[00:28]	schestowitz[TR]	http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2015/04/14/police-protection/
[00:28]	TR Bot	Blog Archive Why I Believe British Police Serves and Protects Only Itself (and Maybe the Rich/Powerful)
[00:28]	DaemonFC	Then go driving from pharmacy to pharmacy because you never get the cheapest coupon for everything the doctor prescribed at one pharmacy.
[00:28]	bnchs	at least with US insurance, i had a better time
[00:29]	bnchs	in here, it was always paying out of pocket
[00:29]	bnchs	paying paying paying
[00:29]	schestowitz[TR]	paying the people who process the payment
[00:29]	schestowitz[TR]	but nothing gets paid towards meds
[00:29]	schestowitz[TR]	like many "charities"
[00:30]	schestowitz[TR]	where you pay for "paper pushes"
[00:30]	schestowitz[TR]	and the pushers
[00:30]	schestowitz[TR]	but not the animals, the needy..
[00:30]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: They gave Mandy his hours back.
[00:30]	schestowitz[TR]	and some countries make the payments obligatory
[00:30]	schestowitz[TR]	so you don't get to OPT  OUT
[00:30]	DaemonFC	Told you it would probably stop at the end of the quarter.
[00:30]	schestowitz[TR]	i wonder what % of TV Licensing goes tom actual TB programmes
[00:31]	schestowitz[TR]	and now nuisance letters from TV Licensinfg
[00:31]	schestowitz[TR]	and salaries for their staff
[00:31]	bnchs	schestowitz[TR]: lol british police
[00:31]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: Is TV Licensing bothering you again?
[00:31]	DaemonFC	Just tell the guy to go fuck himself.
[00:32]	immibis	tv licensing is a deliberately inefficient system because the conservative government wants to cancel the BBC
[00:32]	immibis	and always has wanted to
[00:32]	schestowitz[TR]	a month ago i gave up and filled up the form again
[00:32]	schestowitz[TR]	to stop the pestering by post
[00:32]	schestowitz[TR]	and threats
[00:32]	DaemonFC	Threats to do what?
[00:32]	DaemonFC	Send a Dalek to your house?
[00:32]	schestowitz[TR]	visit
[00:33]	schestowitz[TR]	which would waste more time than doing the form AGAIN
[00:33]	schestowitz[TR]	]and pose a COVID-19 risk
[00:33]	DaemonFC	They can't come inside unless you let them in.
[00:33]	bnchs	schestowitz[TR]: how did that guy's grandpa die by the way
[00:33]	DaemonFC	Call the police and report a peeping tom.
[00:33]	schestowitz[TR]	drknife?
[00:33]	schestowitz[TR]	he has my address
[00:33]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: You don't have to talk to TV Licensing or let them in your house.
[00:33]	schestowitz[TR]	his "Judge" (NOT!) lawyer got it
[00:34]	DaemonFC	Tell them to go away.
[00:35]	TR News	It'll soon be a week of "temporary" and "emergency" Twitter measures. How long before we can call that permanent? Like the "special operations" in Ukraine...
[00:36]	DaemonFC	I think DRGULAG offered you his guest room.
[00:36]	DaemonFC	Don't miss out.
[00:38]	TR News	If it was in the US, they'd bribe the government, insert some moles into the FDA, blame and gaslight the victims, then lobby the government to make an EMERGENCY MANDATE for this syrup (tested only on mice) https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/south-asia/indian-firm-used-toxic-industrial-grade-ingredient-in-cough-syrup-sources
[00:38]	TR Bot	 Indian firm used toxic industrial-grade ingredient in cough syrup, say sources | The Straits Times
[00:39]	starstreak	immibis, thats why i try to use tor for everything
[00:39]	mjg59_	Roy posted his own address
[00:40]	TR News	And don't forgot to also bribe Twitter to suspend, shadowban, and terminate accounts that criticise the patents on your bad syrup
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[00:48]	TR News	52%-32% Support for Court's Decision "Restricting the Use of Race as a Factor in College Admissions" https://reason.com/volokh/2023/07/02/survey-respondents-support-courts-decision-barring-race-preferences-in-higher-education-by-52-32-margin/
[00:48]	TR Bot	 52%-32% Support for Court's Decision "Restricting the Use of Race as a Factor in College Admissions"
[00:49]	TR News	Asia could cut emissions by improving plastic waste management: report https://www.rfa.org/english/news/environment/plastic-wasted-06292023002815.html
[00:49]	TR Bot	 Asia could cut emissions by improving plastic waste management: report Radio Free Asia
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[00:53]	TR News	Over half of Finns concerned about rising housing costs https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/finland-news/domestic/23803-over-half-of-finns-concerned-about-rising-housing-costs.html
[00:53]	TR Bot	reply from server ( status 0 @ https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/finland-news/domestic/23803-over-half-of-finns-concerned-about-rising-housing-costs.html )
[00:54]	immibis	reddit works well with tor (although yesterday I got a rate limit exceeded after they lowered the limits)
[00:54]	immibis	twitter does not, but twitter doesn't work for anything at all right now, but even when it did work it didn't work with tor. Even with melon made an onion address for twitter it didn't actually work because you'd have to verify your phone number to use it and it wouldn't work anyway
[00:55]	TR News	Kosovan construction firm in Finland regularly demands workers to return part of their salaries, Yle probe finds https://yle.fi/a/74-20038858
[00:55]	TR Bot	 Kosovan construction firm in Finland regularly demands workers to return part of their salaries, Yle probe finds
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[00:57]	TR News	HS: 270 construction companies have gone under in Finland in 2023 https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/business/23823-hs-270-construction-companies-have-gone-under-in-finland-in-2023.html
[00:57]	TR Bot	reply from server ( status 0 @ https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/business/23823-hs-270-construction-companies-have-gone-under-in-finland-in-2023.html )
[00:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
[00:59]	TR News	From the people who brought you fraudster Sheela Zemlin: "Eight partners have been shown the door by major consultancy firm PwC following a high-profile confidentiality breach involving secret federal tax information." https://michaelwest.com.au/pwc-identifies-eight-partners-involved-in-tax-leak/ | Source: Michael West Media
[00:59]	TR Bot	 PwC identifies eight partners involved in tax leak - Michael West
[00:59]	TR News	mortgage https://michaelwest.com.au/mortgage-holders-running-out-of-cost-cutting-ideas/ | Source: Michael West Media
[00:59]	TR Bot	 Mortgage-holders running out of cost-cutting ideas - Michael West
● Jul 04
[01:00]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: marisol
[01:00]	schestowitz[TR]	"my sister is rich"
[01:00]	schestowitz[TR]	Andrew Lee is "king of debt"
[01:01]	TR News	"administration"... bankruptcy https://michaelwest.com.au/jobs-slashed-as-miner-aurora-enters-administration/ | Source: Michael West Media
[01:01]	TR Bot	 Jobs slashed as miner Aurora enters administration - Michael West
[01:03]	TR News	Commodore 64 https://hackaday.com/2023/06/30/creating-a-commodore-64-cartridge-on-single-sided-stripboard/ | Source: Hackaday
[01:03]	TR Bot	A Commodore 64 Cartridge On Single-Sided Stripboard | Hackaday
[01:03]	DaemonFC	pdrc
[01:04]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: rich in savings
[01:04]	schestowitz[TR]	not visible
[01:04]	schestowitz[TR]	marisol: rich in liabilities
[01:04]	schestowitz[TR]	showing off things she does not own
[01:04]	schestowitz[TR]	corporatrions the same
[01:04]	schestowitz[TR]	msft: 80 billion in long-term debt
[01:04]	schestowitz[TR]	trying to buy a company for almost 70 billion
[01:05]	schestowitz[TR]	observer: oh, microsoft  has 70 billion in the bank!!!
[01:05]	TR News	pritzker https://www.propublica.org/article/illinois-lawmakers-student-ticketing-reform-pritzker-schools | Source: Pro Publica
[01:05]	TR Bot	 IL Lawmakers Will Give Student Ticketing Reform Another Try ProPublica
[01:05]		*DaemonFC tosses a cold Doritos Locos Taco Supreme at mjg59_
[01:06]	TR News	Judge orders blocking of access to reports linking Bilal Erdoan to international bribery investigation https://www.bianet.org/english/freedom-of-expression/280926-judge-orders-blocking-of-access-to-reports-linking-bilal-erdogan-to-international-bribery-investigation
[01:06]	TR Bot	 Judge orders blocking of access to reports linking Bilal Erdoan to international bribery investigation - english
[01:08]	TR News	Corruption scandal still unfolding in Irish media. The media itself is corrupt. https://about.rte.ie/2023/06/27/statement-from-rtes-interim-deputy-director-general-adrian-lynch/
[01:08]	TR Bot	 Statement from RTs Interim Deputy Director-General, Adrian Lynch About RT
[01:08]		*schestowitz[TR] tosses water truck at DaemonFC 
[01:09]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: It's more watery when it's been carted around on a diesel truck all day in plastic.
[01:09]	TR News	How is THIS front page news??? https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/27/world/europe/tourist-carves-colosseum-rome.html
[01:09]	TR Bot	 Tourist Filmed Carving Girlfriends Name Into Romes Colosseum - The New York Times
[01:11]	schestowitz[TR]	https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/28/arts/kevin-spacey-trial-uk.html
[01:11]	TR Bot	 What to Know About Kevin Spaceys UK Sexual Offenses Trial - The New York Times
[01:11]	schestowitz[TR]	for this they have time
[01:11]	schestowitz[TR]	but not uk government contractor's fraud
[01:12]	schestowitz[TR]	because... CELEB
[01:13]	TR News	To boost fast food wages, California lawmakers get creative https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2023/0627/To-boost-fast-food-wages-California-lawmakers-get-creative
[01:13]	TR Bot	resurrects dormant commission to boost fast food wages - CSMonitor.com
[01:14]	TR News	German Party Leader Refused Visit To Condemned German-Iranian Citizen https://www.rferl.org/a/iran-sharmahd-germ-an-merz-visit-refused-death-sentence/32485210.html
[01:14]	TR Bot	 German Party Leader Refused Visit To Condemned German-Iranian Citizen
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[01:17]	TR News	French PM slams 'particularly shocking' attack on mayor's home https://www.france24.com/en/france/20230702-attempted-murder-investigation-opened-into-ramming-attack-on-french-mayor-s-house
[01:17]	TR Bot	 French PM slams 'particularly shocking' attack on mayor's home
[01:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-03.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-04.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[01:21]	TR News	Population control has rapidly become "Big Business". Yes, Famous Criminal Bill Gates HAS LONG INVESTED in this, too. Profit.
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[01:24]	TR News	Human beings are drowning and media still obsesses over rich people's corpses https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20230628-presumed-human-remains-found-in-wreckage-of-titan-submersible
[01:24]	TR Bot	 Presumed human remains, debris from Titan submersible recovered by US Coast Guard
[01:25]	TR News	Encryption protects our rights, privacy is not a crime https://edri.org/our-work/encryption-protects-our-rights-privacy-is-not-a-crime/
[01:25]	TR Bot	 Encryption protects our rights, privacy is not a crime - European Digital Rights (EDRi)
[01:26]	immibis	rich people drowned 500 people the week before the titan imploded
[01:26]	immibis	in one incident
[01:27]	TR News	"Its one of the most crucial questions people have when deciding which health plan to choose: If my doctor orders a test or treatment, will my insurer refuse to pay for it?" https://www.propublica.org/article/how-often-do-health-insurers-deny-patients-claims | Source: Pro Publica
[01:27]	TR Bot	 How Often Do Health Insurers Deny Patients Claims? No One Knows. ProPublica
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[01:32]	TR News	 (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/03/Android_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/03/Android_Leftovers.1.gmi 
[01:32]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Android Leftovers
[01:33]	TR News	A Studious Summer Break https://ervin.ipsquad.net/blog/2023/07/01/studious-summer-break/
[01:33]	TR Bot	 A Studious Summer Break - ervin
[01:35]	TR News	Bastian Venthur: dotenv-cli update https://venthur.de/2023-07-01-dotenv-cli-update.html
[01:35]	TR Bot	 dotenv-cli update | Bastian Venthur's Blog
[01:36]	TR News	Steinar H. Gunderson: The bestest sine function, redux http://blog.sesse.net/blog/tech/2023-07-01-16-32_the_bestest_sine_function_redux.html
[01:36]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: I think I'll make some fried chicken tomorrow.
[01:36]	TR Bot	 Steinar H. Gunderson
[01:36]	DaemonFC	Cast iron skillet. Haven't used that in a while. Such a pain to clean.
[01:36]	schestowitz[TR]	weird topic change
[01:37]	schestowitz[TR]	ask drknife
[01:37]	schestowitz[TR]	he has a steak knife
[01:37]	schestowitz[TR]	chef's knife
[01:37]	schestowitz[TR]	all the knives
[01:37]	schestowitz[TR]	some are under 10
[01:37]	DaemonFC	Just like his friend DRPIZZA likes em.
[01:37]	schestowitz[TR]	sliced and dice
[01:37]	schestowitz[TR]	just to make sure "well, he's dead"
[01:38]	TR News	How To Install MySQL on Debian 12 https://idroot.us/install-mysql-debian-12/
[01:38]	TR Bot	 How To Install MySQL on Debian 12 - idroot
[01:39]	schestowitz[TR]	http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Mbs-Gates-1.jpg
[01:39]	schestowitz[TR]	Chef recommends
[01:39]	schestowitz[TR]	http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Mbs-Gates-2.jpg
[01:39]	schestowitz[TR]	http://techrights.org/2020/01/11/who-your-friends-are/
[01:39]	TR Bot	 When You Hang Around With So Many Rich Criminals and Dictators You May as Well be One Yourself | Techrights
[01:41]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: Better than roast dog.
[01:42]	DaemonFC	Tell MARISOL to never forget where you came from.
[01:42]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: i quoted you
[01:42]	DaemonFC	Quoted me?
[01:42]	schestowitz[TR]	draft 
[01:42]	schestowitz[TR]	http://techrights.org/2023/07/03/news-on-the-web/
[01:42]	TR Bot	 Reading News on the Web Without Curation and Cruft-Reducing Tools Will Become Harder | Techrights
[01:42]	DaemonFC	I make it a policy to never eat anything that could theoretically love me.
[01:42]	DaemonFC	I don't know how those monsters in China could eat a cat.
[01:42]	DaemonFC	That's even worse than dog.
[01:43]	schestowitz[TR]	cows xan love u
[01:43]	schestowitz[TR]	you eat cows
[01:43]	schestowitz[TR]	dogs are the next logical step
[01:43]	schestowitz[TR]	you're very near to dog-eating
[01:45]	DaemonFC	Tasty cow.
[01:45]	DaemonFC	You never eat a steak or a burger?
[01:46]	DaemonFC	COVID was almost certainly germ warfare. Not a wet market.
[01:46]	DaemonFC	But wet markets are disgusting.
[01:47]	DaemonFC	They have no food safety standards so if COVID didn't come from that, they still are a disaster waiting to happen.
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[01:58]	DaemonFC	MinceR: O'Neill to Maybourne: "You're eating my dog. You want a beer to wash it down?"
[01:58]	DaemonFC	:)
[01:58]	DaemonFC	MARISOL
[01:58]	DaemonFC	(Not a hotdog though.)
[01:59]	DaemonFC	Hotdogs are one of those "You really don't want to know." things about the food industry.
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[02:00]	DaemonFC	O'Neill opens the door to find General Hammond: "Well, you're not the usual delivery boy. Come in. Have a beer. It's a refreshing substitute for....food."
[02:01]	DaemonFC	To Maybourne: "Have ya heard of IKEA? *opens fridge* I see you're on the famous beer and mustard diet."
[02:03]	DaemonFC	"If you immediately know that the candlelight is fire, then the meal was cooked a long time ago."
[02:03]	DaemonFC	O'Neill: "Though a candle burns in my house, there is nobody home."
[02:06]		*DaemonFC throws a pizza at DRGULAG.
[02:06]	DaemonFC	A DRPIZZA.
[02:06]	DaemonFC	He liked COVID so his fat ass could walk around his house naked.
[02:07]	DaemonFC	There's a pleasant thought. So glad they left his Twitter up.
[02:07]	DaemonFC	DRPIZZA, AKA "Ars Guest Staff"
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[02:17]	MinceR	"I'm telling you Teal'c, If we don't get out of this soon I'm going to lose it... Lose it, it means go crazy, nuts, insane, bonzo, no longer in possession of ones faculties, three fries short of a Happy Meal... WACKO!"
[02:18]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: A YouTube account was going through a bunch of abandoned buildings in the city I grew up in.
[02:18]	DaemonFC	All the factories closed then the businesses failed.
[02:18]	DaemonFC	Now everything is closed and rotting, including three malls.
[02:19]	DaemonFC	The movie theater at the Raintree Plaza was in terrible shape even in the 1990s. They "Mark the Landlord"ed it and didn't take care of anything. Every time it rained it flooded the first four rows and it would just get roped off.
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[02:20]	DaemonFC	You'd be sitting in there watching a movie and stuff would be floating around in the water down there. Popcorn buckets, candy boxes...
[02:20]	DaemonFC	You'd stick to the floor.
[02:20]	DaemonFC	It was a Keresotes theater. They had two of them. That one had six screens and their other one at the North Park Mall a couple blocks over had two screens.
[02:20]	DaemonFC	The one at North Park was in much better shape.
[02:21]	DaemonFC	By the end of the 90s they closed the theaters and opened a new Showplace 12 behind the North Park.
[02:22]	DaemonFC	The guy mentions the Chinese restaurant in the Raintree next to that dumpy theater that flooded where you stuck to the floor. That Chinese restaurant was the New Main Moon. It was definitely one of the top two Chinese places I've ever been to. The other was King's Garden in Huntington.
[02:22]	DaemonFC	I think the Indiana tax department ruined Main Moon and a greedy landlord ruined King's Garden.
[02:23]	DaemonFC	Next to the dumpy movie theater, there was a really nice arcade when I was a kid. Aladdin's Castle.
[02:23]	DaemonFC	They had all the latest consoles and they took really good care of the place. They had another location at the North Park Mall.
[02:24]	DaemonFC	There was Centrum Mini-Mall over by the courthouse downtown. That one never did do very well. Even in the 1980s and 1990s right after opening it, they never came close to filling it up. 
[02:24]	DaemonFC	Surprisingly, it is still there and that really good Mexican restaurant that was basically the only good reason to even go in there other than court-ordered divorce therapy in a different room is still in there.
[02:25]	DaemonFC	Marion is doing really really badly.
[02:25]	DaemonFC	Mom says it's almost 100% black people living there now and everything is abandoned and rotting.
[02:26]	DaemonFC	I went down there with Mandy to visit my cousin but we didn't really have time to go driving around the city.
[02:26]	DaemonFC	Probably just as well.
[02:27]	DaemonFC	The only thing left are hundreds of empty store fronts in rotting buildings that nobody will ever use again with the realtor's sign on them.
[02:27]	DaemonFC	At one point the Russians apparently had the city targeted for destruction as part of their plan for a possible nuclear war with the United States.
[02:27]	DaemonFC	Looks like we saved them a missile if one ever does happen.
[02:27]	DaemonFC	XRevan86: ^
[02:28]	schestowitz[TR]	not etch realated
[02:28]	schestowitz[TR]	at all
[02:28]	DaemonFC	They let Matt GULAG in here though. They should have sent him to Marion.
[02:28]	DaemonFC	"You can stay if you live there."
[02:28]	DaemonFC	"You can live in the abandoned Foot Locker down at the mall that's collapsing."
[02:29]	DaemonFC	We have homeless people and we also have three entire empty malls just in Marion alone.
[02:29]	DaemonFC	That will never be used for anything again.
[02:30]	TR News	Consider Twitters Humongous Debt (Insolvency Likely Impending) When Assessing the Decision Not to Pay Severance, Rent, and Hosting Bills | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/07/03/twitter-humongous-debt/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/07/03/twitter-humongous-debt/
[02:30]	TR Bot	 Consider Twitters Humongous Debt (Insolvency Likely Impending) When Assessing the Decision Not to Pay Severance, Rent, and Hosting Bills | Techrights
[02:30]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: This is not the news.
[02:31]	DaemonFC	Which pronouns you use for a tranny is "news".
[02:32]	immibis	are you aware that "tranny" is considered a slur, similar to calling a black person "nigger"? (i assume this channel allows nominative use because it's techrights)
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[02:35]	TR Bot	 Gemini Links 03/07/2023: Self-Hosting Git and Enabling HTTP/3 (QUIC) on nginx | Techrights
[02:35]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hills_(store)#/media/File:NorthernLightsSC2.jpg
[02:35]	TR Bot	 Hills (store) - Wikipedia
[02:36]	DaemonFC	Pretty much all of America looks like this thanks to Walmart.
[02:36]	DaemonFC	Instead of re-using any of the stuff that was already built they just let it sit there and rot.
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[02:37]	geert	supsupsupsup
[02:37]	DaemonFC	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hills_(store)
[02:37]	TR Bot	 Hills (store) - Wikipedia
[02:37]	DaemonFC	We used to have Hills and KMart.
[02:37]	DaemonFC	I remember Frosty Graham, that millionaire down the street from where mom grew up, got thrown out of Hills and banned.
[02:37]	DaemonFC	He was going in there to shoplift.
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[02:38]	TR Bot	 IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, July 03, 2023
[02:38]	DaemonFC	He had all that money from investing in IBM and Coke and he was in there shoplifting.
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[02:38]	DaemonFC	They didn't prosecute because he was an old man.
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[02:39]	TR Bot	 IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, July 03, 2023
[02:39]	geert	maybe he gotsome condition called kleptomania
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[02:41]	TR Bot	 IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, July 03, 2023
[02:41]	geert	t0talist sup you still into 2.4 kernel maybe?
[02:42]	schestowitz[TR]	he lives in 1940
[02:43]	schestowitz[TR]	so why now ancient linux with many known bugs?
[02:43]	immibis	1940 because of hitler?
[02:43]	TR News	Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2023-07-03.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2023-07-03.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)
[02:43]	immibis	wouldn't it make more sense for today's bulletin to be ready
[02:44]	XRevan86	immibis: It's July 4th UTC+0 right now.
[02:44]	XRevan86	The day has just begun.
[02:44]	schestowitz[TR]	yes
[02:45]	immibis	is it the bulletin being issued today?
[02:45]	schestowitz[TR]	10pm ET
[02:45]	schestowitz[TR]	3am BSSST
[02:45]	schestowitz[TR]	midnight in between
[02:45]	schestowitz[TR]	"Generated Tue 4 Jul 02:41:15 BST 2023
[02:45]	schestowitz[TR]	"
[02:45]	schestowitz[TR]	" Bulletin for Monday, July 03, 2023
[02:45]	schestowitz[TR]	"
[02:45]	schestowitz[TR]	gn
[02:46]	XRevan86	schestowitz: Good night.
[02:46]	schestowitz[TR]	got a video processing overnight
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[02:46]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Gemini Articles of Interest
[02:46]	MinceR	https://tenor.com/view/good-night-john-cleese-ding-ding-monty-python-bell-gif-17072863
[02:46]	TR Bot	 Good Night John Cleese GIF - Good Night John Cleese Ding Ding - Discover & Share GIFs
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[02:46]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Today in Techrights
[02:47]	XRevan86	It is quite amazing how similar Andrew Lee and Elon Musk approached owning a social network.
[02:47]	XRevan86	Everyone noticed this already but still.
[02:50]	geert	lol he dont live in 1940 hahaha
[02:51]	geert	nah it seem to me he more like experimenting
[02:51]	geert	hahahaha 1940 :))
[02:51]	geert	its jul 4th CEST atm
[02:52]	geert	(03:51)
[02:53]	geert	so east coast us isnt yet jul 4th i guess
[02:53]	geert	CEST is gmt/utc +2 and new york is -4 if im not incorrect
[02:54]	geert	but the currentsituation is such of deteriorated that i suggest people be careful 'celebrating' july 4th
[02:54]	geert	honestly
[02:55]	geert	ananas.bitschine.fr.
[02:55]	geert	oops
[02:55]	geert	bbiab ;)
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[03:00]	immibis	XRevan86: i haven't seen anyone notice it besides myself, and you just now
[03:02]	IPFS	 Gemini requests since start of month:   25818 total Total number of pages in capsule: 47064      Active: active (running) since Wed 2023-03-08 20:27:21 GMT; 3 months 25 days ago
[03:02]	XRevan86	immibis: Enter "freenode" in search.
[03:02]	immibis	where?
[03:03]	IPFS	 IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated.      
[03:03]	XRevan86	immibis: Here.
[03:03]	immibis	freenode
[03:03]	immibis	hey this isn't a search box
[03:03]	XRevan86	:D
[03:03]	immibis	i never realized this wasn't a search box
[03:03]	XRevan86	immibis: schestowitz also compared for one.
[03:03]	immibis	this channel is spammed full of so much bullshit that it won't find anything in the scrollback limits
[03:04]	IPFS	 New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled.
[03:04]	immibis	and i'm not going to go and poke in the database for more scrollback
[03:04]	immibis	or hold the up arrow for hours
[03:04]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: Think I should call down to the police and ask them when they plan on dealing with all the fireworks instead of just posting signs everywhere that say they're illegal?
[03:04]	DaemonFC	:)
[03:04]	DaemonFC	They scare my cats. They annoy me.
[03:05]	DaemonFC	They blow up Mexicans and send them to the hospital, where they don't pay.
[03:05]	immibis	you should stop being a karen
[03:05]	immibis	where i live fireworks are allowed one night per year. That is the compromise between banning them entirely and allowing them. I suppose you have two nights per year.
[03:06]	DaemonFC	Illinois makes them all illegal unless it's the government.
[03:06]	DaemonFC	Almost like guns, which of course nobody has either. :)
[03:07]	immibis	if they're all illegal then no wonder there are so many
[03:08]	DaemonFC	Illinois: You can't have fireworks because if we made them legal it would scare people's pets and give veterans PTSD flashbacks. Also Illinois: BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOOM EXPLODEY BOOM BOOM BOOM!!!! We hope you're happy, it was this or fix the roads.
[03:08]	DaemonFC	MinceR: ^
[03:09]	immibis	DaemonFC: Illinois: You can't have fireworks because if we made them legal it would scare people's pets and give veterans PTSD flashbacks. Also Illinois: BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOOM EXPLODEY BOOM BOOM BOOM!!!! We hope you're happy, it was this or fix the roads.
[03:09]	immibis	Also DaemonFC: They scare my cats. They annoy me.
[03:09]	DaemonFC	Not the government's job: Education, healthcare, roads, housing. Government's job: Blowing up millions of dollars in fireworks per town and having the police invade the wrong houses in the middle of the night.
[03:10]	immibis	welcome to republicanism
[03:10]	immibis	aka fascism
[03:11]	DaemonFC	They claim we have representation in Springfield, or Washington, or wherever. Like I was the one that told them to go to war and release COVID on the elderly.
[03:11]	DaemonFC	Democracy
[03:11]	immibis	how did you vote?
[03:11]	DaemonFC	I voted for the other guy, naturally.
[03:11]	DaemonFC	:)
[03:12]	DaemonFC	JB Pritzker: Re-elect me and I'll show those billionaires!
[03:12]	DaemonFC	Also JB Pritzker: "Shoves his $4.6 billion under the bed."
[03:13]	DaemonFC	The guy singlehandedly has more wealth the the bottom 50% of Illinoisans, and he also eats more food singlehandedly than the bottom 50% of Illinoisans.
[03:13]	DaemonFC	But he's going to be the one to bring us income equality?
[03:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-03.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-04.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[03:20]	immibis	so you voted for the republican
[03:20]	immibis	to be fair the democrat JB Pritzker is also a republican
[03:20]	immibis	so it's not like you had a choice
[03:34]	DaemonFC	https://edition.cnn.com/2023/06/29/style/mschf-lv-microscopic-bag-auction/index.html
[03:34]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: ^
[03:34]	TR Bot	 MSCHFs microscopic Louis Vuitton handbag sells for over $63K at Joopiter auction | CNN
[03:34]	DaemonFC	"THIS IS CNN!" -James Earl Jones
[03:38]	immibis	CNN was bought by an elon musk-alike, like a year ago
[03:38]	immibis	it wasn't big news because they control the news
[03:38]	DaemonFC	They control the news for all 5% of their audience that remains.
[03:39]	immibis	billionaires control all of the news
[03:39]	immibis	all of it
[03:39]	DaemonFC	Playing the January 6th protests over and over for 3 years to scare the nuns where mom works.
[03:39]	immibis	you ever noticed that anti-billionaire actions never make the news?
[03:41]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: Well, at least whoever the new landlord sent out to weed whack didn't take out my Comcast line.
[03:47]	geert	its pretty amazing how some people still jap politics this and that when its long past hijacked, generalized, as a system
[03:48]	geert	its then also pretty amazing how some people still jap billionaires this and that when thats basically to be expected with a aystem that basically pays egoism more than quality over many decades
[03:49]	geert	its like people japping theres water on the floor here and there when the faucet is simply open and they refuse to talk about closing the faucet meanwhile japping as the water as expected result/effect on the floor would be cause instead of effect
[03:49]	geert	its very very simple, very very basic stuff, the money system got hijacked away from quality, thus from public /common interest at the same time
[03:50]	geert	some would say hypothetically 'money talks', whatever people define as system, with money as value (perception) exchange, its money that pay the costs to such system
[03:51]	geert	if the whole money system, generalized, pays egoism more than quality in group, that wtf would you get you think?
[03:51]	geert	exactly, hijacked wrecked and corrupted politics, it dont make much sense even pointing at the politicians themselves, they more like strawmen
[03:51]	geert	if any one of them dont do what those who pull money strings want, they simply more or less indirectly oust that person
[03:52]	geert	and not just hijacked wrecked corrupted politics, also hijacked wrecked corrupted education etc. etc. etc.
[03:53]	geert	basically from toxic money management toxic effects slip in pretty much everywhere, albeit not everywhere at the same pace
[03:53]	geert	like mil, agriculture, healthcare etc. etc. etc.
[03:53]	geert	so to speak
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[04:00]	DaemonFC	https://wgntv.com/news/north-suburbs/firework-explodes-on-suburban-mans-face-critical-condition/
[04:00]	TR Bot	 Firework explodes on suburban man's face; critical condition
[04:00]	DaemonFC	"LAKE COUNTY, Ill. A man is in critical condition after a firework exploded on his face Sunday night in unincorporated Cary.
[04:00]	DaemonFC	At around 9:15 p.m., authorities responded to a residence in the 24400 block of Hickory Nut Grove Road on the report of a person seriously injured by a firework.
[04:00]	DaemonFC	Officers arrived and found a 58-year-old man in and out of consciousness.
[04:00]	DaemonFC	Police believe the man was detonating numerous commercial-rated fireworks for a party.
[04:00]	DaemonFC	At some point, a firework did not discharge as expected after it was lit. Police said the man looked into the tube and the firework discharged, striking and exploding on contact with his face.
[04:00]	DaemonFC	The man sustained major injuries to the head and became unconscious. He was transported to Advocate Condell Medical Center in Libertyville in critical condition."
[04:00]	DaemonFC	Something that doesn't happen to enough of them.
[04:00]	DaemonFC	Darwin Award Nominee
[04:01]	DaemonFC	When the gigantic explosive in a tube doesn't go off, assume it's a dud and go over and look straight down the tube. That's the first rule of fireworks safety.
[04:01]	DaemonFC	MinceR: ^
[04:02]	DaemonFC	When I was a kid setting this shit off, like 7-8 years old, if one didn't detonate I took the garden hose and sprayed it down and then let it sit overnight before I went anywhere near it.
[04:02]	DaemonFC	Now you have 58 year old men (probably some damn Mexican) blowing their ass off with a firework.
[04:02]	DaemonFC	I mean, how did this guy reach 58? He was 19 already when I was born!
[04:04]	DaemonFC	I never blew myself up. I was out there setting off cherry bombs, bottle rockets, roman candles, all kinds of stuff.
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[04:04]	DaemonFC	In the public park.
[04:04]	DaemonFC	In a state where fireworks were illegal.
[04:04]	DaemonFC	And nobody cared.
[04:04]	DaemonFC	I'm glad I could grow up in at least the tail end of when this was a great country.
[04:04]	DaemonFC	By the time it was fucked for sure, I was in my mid 20s.
[04:08]	eidolon	Now that is a slapstick story.
[04:08]	DaemonFC	The guy blowing his face up because he's nearly 60 and doesn't have the common sense I did when I was 8?
[04:08]	eidolon	the very same
[04:09]	DaemonFC	I was really happy with some of the stuff Microsoft produced in the 1990s. Some was ahead of its time.
[04:09]	eidolon	If the explosive doesn't go off, what you do is turn the barrel onto yourself and investigate.
[04:09]	DaemonFC	Before I could read Wikipedia, I had lots of encyclopedias on CD-ROMs or something, like Compton's or Encarta.
[04:10]	DaemonFC	I was happy to get an entire volume of encyclopedias for $10 down at the Half Price Books in the computer section.
[04:10]	DaemonFC	There was no way a kid could afford a set of encyclopedias like this otherwise and even if you could, it was so much more tedious to have to go grab a book and look up articles.
[04:10]	eidolon	then it will be used as an example for how we all must be protected from ourselves.
[04:11]	DaemonFC	Yes, and the Democraps use this to justify gun control too.
[04:11]	DaemonFC	Some people have "accidents" while "cleaning a gun".
[04:11]	DaemonFC	The first rule of gun safety is, after all, always assume a gun you pick up is unloaded.
[04:11]	DaemonFC	;)
[04:12]	DaemonFC	Not only is it unloaded, but you should look down the barrel to verify it's dirty and needs to be cleaned.
[04:12]	DaemonFC	Because there is one of these fuckers for ever 100,000 responsible gun owners, there's another point for "gun control".
[04:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-03.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-04.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[04:21]	DaemonFC	https://www.wired.com/story/a-rare-domestic-resurgence-of-malaria-is-circulating-in-the-us/
[04:21]	TR Bot	Rare Domestic Resurgence of Malaria Is Circulating in the US | WIRED
[04:21]	DaemonFC	Yet another reason to visit Florida.
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[04:48]	AdmFubar	https://freespeech.com/2023/04/19/red-alert-icann-and-verisign-proposal-would-allow-any-government-in-the-world-to-seize-domain-names/
[04:48]	TR Bot	Alert: ICANN and Verisign Proposal Would Allow Any Government In The World To Seize Domain Names FreeSpeech.com
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[05:05]	DaemonFC	Obama gave away ICANN.
[05:05]	DaemonFC	At least when it was a quasi-agency of the US government it wasn't THIS bad.
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[05:39]	DaemonFC	Some of these lines in old cartoons are pretty good. "He wouldn't eat his broccoli so they sent him to prison. They can do that you know!"
[05:40]	DaemonFC	For some reason all of the fast casual restaurants want to bring you fucking broccoli now with a steak.
[05:40]	DaemonFC	I have never wanted steak and broccoli at the same meal.
[05:40]	DaemonFC	It's steak, baked potato, and a side salad.
[05:40]	DaemonFC	If they do have potatoes, it's mashed potatoes.
[05:41]	DaemonFC	I think for some reason there's a conspiracy to get rid of baked potatoes at these restaurants.
[05:43]	DaemonFC	Management probably looked into it and decided there were "operational inefficiencies" with baked potatoes, so now I go to those places and spend my money far less often.
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[06:07]	TR News	Techrights Bulletin for Monday, July 03, 2023 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives
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[06:19]	DaemonFC	https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2023/07/01/report-of-person-displaying-gun-during-dispute-inside-gurnee-mills-mall-prompts-heavy-police-response/
[06:19]	TR Bot	 Report of person displaying gun during dispute inside Gurnee Mills mall prompts heavy police response
[06:19]	DaemonFC	LOL
[06:19]	DaemonFC	I see the license plate scanner is working.
[06:20]	schestowitz[TR]	is that your gun
[06:20]	schestowitz[TR]	or are you just excited to see me?
[06:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-03.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-04.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[06:20]	DaemonFC	They put a license plate scanner in the mall parking lot.
[06:20]	DaemonFC	Scans everyone.
[06:20]	DaemonFC	They said that they were "solving crime" with it.
[06:21]	DaemonFC	If you're dumb enough to drive around in a stolen car and not also swap plates with another car, they might notice.
[06:21]	DaemonFC	Most people don't know their license plate number so odds are they'd drive around with the plates from the stolen car for weeks and then they would get pulled over by the pigs and not know why.
[06:23]	DaemonFC	"The Gurnee Police Department responded around 11 a.m. Thursday to Rainforest Cafe, 6170 West Grand Avenue in Gurnee, for a report of a domestic dispute.
[06:23]	DaemonFC	Gurnee Police Department Public Information Officer Shawn Gaylor told Lake and McHenry County Scanner that initial reports stated there was a gun displayed.
[06:23]	DaemonFC	Those reports later turned out to be unfounded.
[06:23]	DaemonFC	Officers learned during their investigation that a verbal argument occurred, Gaylor said.
[06:23]	DaemonFC	One of the subjects involved made a threatening statement saying that he would shoot the other person if they touched him.
[06:23]	DaemonFC	No one wanted to press charges for the threatening statement, Gaylor said.
[06:23]	DaemonFC	No weapons were located and both parties went separate ways without further issue."
[06:23]	DaemonFC	SWAT the Rainforest Cafe!
[06:23]	DaemonFC	BISH I FINNA SHOOT YO ASS!
[06:23]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: I can directly quote John about black people.
[06:24]	DaemonFC	Some of his greatest hits were saying they are a "plague" and he didn't say "black people" in the sentence. He used the N word.
[06:24]	DaemonFC	Then saying they're "pretty gross". Amusingly the topic was the government figures about Syphilis and HIV.
[06:25]	DaemonFC	He was fucking random Internet people from Grindr.
[06:25]	DaemonFC	Calling other people "pretty gross".
[06:26]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: You know what the CPD detective told me when I said "Why don't you just get a warrant from a judge on Grindr to solve [John's] mugging?" He says, "I could do that but we're not going to."
[06:27]	DaemonFC	See, the police care about solving crime oh wait, they don't. 
[06:27]	DaemonFC	The police are all over Grindr.
[06:27]	DaemonFC	They have hundreds of accounts pretending to be 15 year olds that don't exist.
[06:28]	DaemonFC	"Hey come meet me at McDonalds!"
[06:28]	DaemonFC	:)
[06:28]	DaemonFC	"What do you want to do with me?"
[06:28]	DaemonFC	You know.
[06:30]	DaemonFC	They find idiots and just keep going and then later in court they read off everything they admitted they would do.
[06:30]	DaemonFC	The Judge: "Oh you were going to bring them drugs too? Interesting!"
[06:31]	DaemonFC	If there is anything comparable to the devil whispering bad ideas in your ear, it's the police on a gay hookup app.
[06:31]	DaemonFC	:)
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[06:45]	DaemonFC	http://techrights.org/2023/07/03/twitter-humongous-debt/
[06:45]	TR Bot	 Consider Twitters Humongous Debt (Insolvency Likely Impending) When Assessing the Decision Not to Pay Severance, Rent, and Hosting Bills | Techrights
[06:45]	geert	its not like they just do and try many things the public dont want them to
[06:45]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: When you file bankruptcy you have to show you've tried to screw all your creditors evenly.
[06:46]	DaemonFC	It would probably be permissible to pay your hosting bills and say that if you didn't then there'd have been no company.
[06:46]	geert	many people kind of get to push the police into such luring constraints, they want them kind of look for trouble, rather than more serious reactive court verdicts
[06:47]	geert	kind of like jury populism, its not like the public dont want it, generalized and the system just enforces what many dont want
[06:47]	geert	many WANT rather revenge than 'effective measurements'
[06:47]	geert	if that would not be the case, police and many other institutions such as court would act wholly differently
[06:49]	geert	i dont say its healthy what happens now, but i try not blame the police just like that, many people should seriously approach societal state of law affairs *much* *more* *seriously*, not just as voters while voting
[06:50]	geert	some so called leadership try abuse the public ignorance of the so called 'little man' too, trying instill more chaos and try utilize/abuse it at the moment
[06:50]	geert	s/instill/stir
[06:51]	TR News	The Corporate Cancel Culture Industry Part III: Non-Technical People Trying to Ruin the Lives of the Geeks | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/07/04/cancel-the-geeks/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/07/04/cancel-the-geeks/
[06:51]	TR Bot	 The Corporate Cancel Culture Industry Part III: Non-Technical People Trying to Ruin the Lives of the Geeks | Techrights
[06:51]	geert	they want police to act up more agressively, they dont tell you, but its not like nobody wants the escalations
[06:51]	geert	they generalized dont tell you*
[06:51]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: so you reckon he shuts it down?
[06:51]	schestowitz[TR]	the walled gardens lower his hosting bills for now
[06:51]	schestowitz[TR]	no traffic -> small bills
[06:51]	DaemonFC	I think he's probably preparing for a Chapter 11.
[06:52]	schestowitz[TR]	yeah
[06:52]	schestowitz[TR]	too much debt
[06:52]	schestowitz[TR]	dired almost everyone
[06:52]	schestowitz[TR]	STILL loses money
[06:52]	schestowitz[TR]	not even close to revenue
[06:52]	schestowitz[TR]	and positive income
[06:52]	schestowitz[TR]	even the income would be lose to interest payments on the debt
[06:52]	DaemonFC	I don't think that liquidation is on the table now.
[06:52]	schestowitz[TR]	a few years ago MSFT had $100,000,000,000 in DEBT
[06:53]	schestowitz[TR]	a little more than marisol :-)
[06:53]	schestowitz[TR]	not they fired tens ofthousands
[06:53]	DaemonFC	But the track record for companies successfully re-emerging from a reorganization bankruptcy is 50 50.
[06:53]	schestowitz[TR]	to balance the books a little
[06:53]	schestowitz[TR]	just a littkle
[06:53]	schestowitz[TR]	just the tip
[06:53]	schestowitz[TR]	of the knife
[06:53]	schestowitz[TR]	ask drknife]
[06:54]	DaemonFC	Did they retract DRGULAG
[06:54]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: you cannot keep "half a twitter"
[06:54]	schestowitz[TR]	"the profitable part"
[06:54]	schestowitz[TR]	twitter does not work like this
[06:54]	DaemonFC	or his job offer?
[06:54]	schestowitz[TR]	it's an organism
[06:54]	schestowitz[TR]	you kill half of it, the rest too will die
[06:54]	schestowitz[TR]	advertisers fled already
[06:55]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: gulag is all showoff
[06:55]	schestowitz[TR]	and fake endorsements
[06:55]	schestowitz[TR]	from groomers
[06:55]	schestowitz[TR]	like drpizza
[06:55]	geert	intimidation
[06:55]	schestowitz[TR]	gulag inc. approached me many times over the years
[06:55]	schestowitz[TR]	and other Techrights associates
[06:55]	schestowitz[TR]	they tried to hire us
[06:55]	geert	and you peeps should realize that they dont tryintimidate because they 'sure of the win'
[06:55]	geert	they rather 'afraid to lose'
[06:55]	schestowitz[TR]	if you fancy working in a case, it's not hard
[06:55]	schestowitz[TR]	you give them 85%
[06:55]	geert	and about the debt/moneys, imma tell you this;
[06:55]	schestowitz[TR]	and take the paycheck
[06:55]	geert	theres two types of commercial activity in current money as debt setup
[06:56]	schestowitz[TR]	 /s/case/cage/
[06:56]	schestowitz[TR]	gulag hired many distro developers
[06:56]	schestowitz[TR]	then they just vanished
[06:56]	geert	one) people/organizations not much aware of how exploit debt
[06:56]	schestowitz[TR]	they could not do both the job and the hobby
[06:56]	geert	two) people/organization aware and tryna exploit debt
[06:57]	geert	thos latter got two types too, basically, basic investment tying to write off bookkeeping
[06:57]	geert	and max debt exploitation where the core business is compete by seeking the line close to public awareness
[06:58]	schestowitz[TR]	2006 https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2006/08/11/interview-with-google/
[06:58]	TR Bot	Blog Archive Second Interview with Google
[06:58]	schestowitz[TR]	the people from dublin contacted me
[06:58]	geert	that latter dont care jack shit about whatever product quality, they rather run populism
[06:58]	schestowitz[TR]	i think they spied on me online
[06:58]	geert	msft is that latter kind
[06:59]	schestowitz[TR]	MSFT = moonpoly rents
[06:59]	schestowitz[TR]	operated at a loss for ages
[06:59]	geert	look we got a monetary/economic system that rather pays egoism more than quality
[06:59]	schestowitz[TR]	to get monopoly rents
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[06:59]	geert	its not like culprits dont know this
[06:59]	geert	its more like masses dont realize
[06:59]	schestowitz[TR]	Famous Criminal bill esptein still trying to do the same in other domains
[06:59]	schestowitz[TR]	including vaccines
[06:59]	geert	this system does not lead to best quality mentality getting most means
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[07:00]	geert	meaning so called top dog positions moved away from top of the bill mentality dynamics within group for many decades
[07:00]	geert	meaning they dont compete on top, generalized, at point of quality
[07:00]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: heh, before gulagboy was doing his phd gulag already asked me if i'd relocated to irlena
[07:00]	geert	they compete at point of fucking each other and their fellows up
[07:00]	schestowitz[TR]	i said no
[07:00]	geert	the game is not being noticed
[07:00]	geert	that what they fear
[07:00]	schestowitz[TR]	*ireland
[07:00]	schestowitz[TR]	i was not even interested
[07:00]	geert	they try make public think they real entrepeneurs that are necessary to society
[07:00]	schestowitz[TR]	i was already doing online writing on my own
[07:01]	geert	thats kind of image pushing
[07:01]	geert	sometimes they cross the line and then they also get trouble among each other, because that raised awareness basically eats whats some called 'profitability perspective'
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[07:02]	geert	so they dont even compete products, they compete populism driving as close as possible towards that awareness, if they cross that line in a particular manner, a cooked up supposed spontaneous crisis should solve, stuff like tha, etc.
[07:03]	geert	what you call debt they equalize stuff in the books like if some wars dont generate enough debt, msft and some others are expected to make more
[07:03]	geert	it goes *MUCH* beyond write off ledged equalizing so to say
[07:04]	geert	like part of greece within euro group deliberately happened so long, to keep debt booking from some specific conglomerates
[07:06]	geert	and you peeps better dont worry so much intimidation like this gulag shit
[07:06]	geert	thats because you people get some more knowledge/awareness, the more you get, that cost them reach, so to speak
[07:06]	geert	reach out of their direct control
[07:07]	geert	that awareness is more of seriously touching their populism core business, wholly different that products/quality etc.
[07:07]	geert	they intimidate because not they 'sure to win', they dont work with quality, quality would be more out of your reach, whether or not you got much knowledge about the specific aspects
[07:08]	geert	but -again- the core biz is exploiting ignorance, there knowledge takes their reach, which is not as much in their control as quality based market
[07:09]	geert	so they intimidate not because they sure to win, they intimidate because you hold reach outside their direct control by exploitation choices THEY thought they could make
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[07:10]	geert	in short, they fear their ignorance populism exploitation core biz getting out, they wana run the awareness, that fear is their cause to try intimidate, not because they in control
[07:11]	geert	thhese supposed leaders say 'knowledge is power', they run by keeping masses ignorant, you got knowledge, they see you as potential threat to their exploitation
[07:11]	geert	they dont run a quality market, they run lies about what money would be worth etc.
[07:11]	geert	they know about them lies, masses dont realize much about it, they think money is worth lots of real value
[07:12]	geert	see, regular people get REAL things with money, they kind of conditioned/used to think its really worth anything, coz they get real touchable stuff like bread with it
[07:12]	geert	msft is not about debt write off within own company realm these days
[07:13]	geert	so called politics have spread man, so called politics because its not real legitimate politics actually so thats why i say so called
[07:13]	geert	and its not just national, also international politics over the back of moneys partly via companies like msft
[07:14]	geert	its kind of how they hijacked politicians, many those entrepeneurs, they deliver them international means to push agendas towards other countries via them companies too
[07:16]	geert	its not like just delivering them more easily scalable 'job opportunities/market' than via much less predictable much larger small/medium companies, its also inequality eploitation towards other countries than just via inflation/deflation, e.g. debt spreading over stuff like msft
[07:18]	geert	i did got a bit active huh on irc a little bit
[07:18]	geert	:/
[07:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-03.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-04.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[07:21]	geert	if you scared to talk back a bit then you dont have to :)
[07:31]	DaemonFC	https://www.nationalgeographic.com/premium/article/adderall-shortage-adult-adhd
[07:32]	TR Bot	 As Adderall shortage continues, people with ADHD struggle to stay afloat
[07:32]	DaemonFC	"Before being diagnosed, I just thought I wasnt trying hard enough, says Marissa Patry, a mother of four children, who was diagnosed with ADHD at the age of 32. Before her diagnosis, Patry struggled to complete basic tasks, confused as to why she just couldnt get them done, even when she really wanted to. After going on medication, I would just get up and do the task, Patry...
[07:32]	DaemonFC	...says. The...
[07:32]	DaemonFC	...difference is life-changing."
[07:32]	DaemonFC	Sounds like she figured out how to get pregnant.
[07:41]	TR News	False quote (but widely spread and misattributed): I freed a thousand slaves; I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/07/04/modern-slavery-false-dichotomy/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/07/04/modern-slavery-false-dichotomy/
[07:41]	TR Bot	 False quote (but widely spread and misattributed): I freed a thousand slaves; I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves | Techrights
[07:42]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: ^
[07:44]	DaemonFC	von der Slaven
[07:46]	DaemonFC	National Geographic posting paid spam now.
[07:46]	DaemonFC	Sad.
[07:48]	schestowitz[TR]	yeah
[07:48]	TR News	New Rumour: Microsofts Next Big Round of Layoffs Starts Next Week | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/07/04/microsoft-layoffs-july-2023/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/07/04/microsoft-layoffs-july-2023/
[07:48]	TR Bot	 New Rumour: Microsofts Next Big Round of Layoffs Starts Next Week | Techrights
[07:49]	schestowitz[TR]	mlking the brand
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[08:08]	TR News	[cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D641.jpg
[08:08]	TR News	[cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D967.jpg
[08:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-03.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-04.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[08:26]	TR News	SFC: we're like FSF and SFLC but we "lean to the green" (MONEY). Also: our logo and stuff was created by unpaid volunteers. Now we pay quarter million bucks a year to corporate brats. Again: MONEY.
[08:27]	TR News	Dirk Eddelbuettel: RcppAnnoy 0.0.21 on CRAN: Upstream Update http://dirk.eddelbuettel.com/blog/2023/07/02#rcppannoy_0.0.21
[08:27]	TR Bot	 Thinking inside the box
[08:27]	TR News	How To Configure UFW Firewall on Debian 12 https://idroot.us/configure-ufw-firewall-on-debian-12/
[08:27]	TR Bot	 How To Configure UFW Firewall on Debian 12 - idroot
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[08:29]	TR News	Nope, it is a lot worse. Report the facts, not what Musk "SAYS". https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/01/business/twitter-rate-limit-elon-musk.html
[08:29]	TR Bot	 Musk Says Twitter Is Limiting Number of Posts Users Can Read - The New York Times
[08:30]	TR News	Openwashing with a dash in the middle https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/information-tech/open-source-technologies-and-cloud-computing-will-continue-to-power-indias-digital-economy-says-karmendra-trivedi-of-canonical-india/articleshow/101446012.cms
[08:30]	TR Bot	 Open-source technologies and cloud computing will continue to power Indias digital economy, says Karmendra Trivedi of Canonical India - The Economic Times
[08:31]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: I opened an issue of National Geographic and it was all about the "infertility crisis".
[08:31]	schestowitz[TR]	:-)
[08:31]	DaemonFC	Worried that China doesn't have enough people.
[08:31]	schestowitz[TR]	it needs MOAR
[08:31]	schestowitz[TR]	ignore that lots of young people are unemployed AND unhappy
[08:31]	schestowitz[TR]	Xi Pooh-Tin tell them to "eat bittierness"
[08:31]	schestowitz[TR]	or swallow
[08:32]	TR News	CentOS Linux end-of-life update: The plot thickens https://myhost.nz/blog/centos-linux-update-rebuilds
[08:32]	TR Bot	 CentOS Linux end-of-life update: The plot thickens
[08:32]	schestowitz[TR]	translation from mandarin anyway
[08:33]	schestowitz[TR]	could be interpreted differently
[08:33]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: Just eat bugs.
[08:33]	schestowitz[TR]	but he basically told them to shut up
[08:33]	schestowitz[TR]	and put up
[08:33]	DaemonFC	That'll make you feel better about being unemployed with a $3,000 studio.
[08:33]	schestowitz[TR]	he does not need to win the next electiopn
[08:33]	schestowitz[TR]	he does not need their vote
[08:33]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: "eat shit and die"
[08:33]	schestowitz[TR]	"while I govern another 20 years';
[08:33]	schestowitz[TR]	no term limits
[08:34]	schestowitz[TR]	China is now very much like North korea
[08:40]	TR News	Using ffmpeg for Intruder Protection in Linux https://www.opensourceforu.com/2023/07/using-ffmpeg-for-intruder-protection-in-linux/
[08:40]	TR Bot	 Using ffmpeg for Intruder Protection in Linux
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[08:42]	DaemonFC	North Korea doesn't have enough fertility?
[08:42]	schestowitz[TR]	y u no fertile, ryan?
[08:43]	TR News	"Data is a major resource today and securing all our devices has become crucial." https://www.opensourceforu.com/2023/07/using-ffmpeg-for-intruder-protection-in-linux/ | Source: Open Source For U
[08:45]	TR News	"With that said, I believe these steps will work on all 64-bit x86 Illumos distros." https://briancallahan.net/blog/20230703.html | Source: Brian Callahan
[08:45]	TR Bot	 Installing Oracle Developer Studio 12.6 on OpenIndiana, a tale of lies - Dr. Brian Robert Callahan
[08:46]	DaemonFC	Must be the water.
[08:46]	schestowitz[TR]	and the "chemtails" :-)
[08:46]	schestowitz[TR]	*rails
[08:47]	TR News	"Red Hat announced that it would make source code for its RHEL distribution " https://itwire.com/business-it-news/open-source/suse-commits-to-open-source-principles-in-wake-of-red-hat-move.html | Source: IT Wire
[08:47]	TR Bot	- SUSE commits to open-source principles in wake of Red Hat move
[08:49]	TR News	"Magneto-Optical is not a fight between mutants from X-Men" https://prose.nsood.in/custom-nas | Source: Naman Sood
[08:49]	TR Bot	 Trying to build a NAS that&apos;s as good as Synology Prose
[08:49]	TR News	"Magneto-Optical is not a fight between mutants from X-Men" https://linuxjedi.co.uk/2023/07/02/magneto-optical-drives/ | Source: Andrew Hutchings
[08:49]	TR Bot	 Magneto-Optical Drives LinuxJedi's /dev/null
[08:49]	TR News	"For portable power, the GPS Pothole Tracker uses a USB power bank" https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/gps-pothole-tracker/ | Source: Raspberry Pi
[08:49]	TR Bot	 GPS pothole tracker - Raspberry Pi
[08:50]	TR News	"My knee-jerk reaction was this looks great, I could definitely replace my iPhone" https://kevquirk.com/i-d-love-a-dumb-phone-but%E2%80%A6 | Source: Kev Quirk
[08:50]	TR Bot	 Id Love a Dumb Phone, But - Kev Quirk
[08:50]	TR News	">Honk is written in Go and uses SQLite as database." https://box.matto.nl/moving-from-pleroma-to-honk.html | Source: MJ Fransen
[08:50]	TR Bot	from Pleroma to Honk - box.matto.nl
[08:52]	TR News	"Object-relational mapping (ORM) libraries are scattered about millions of code repositories." https://matt-rickard.com/myths-about-orms | Source: Matt Rickard
[08:52]	TR Bot	 Myths About ORMs
[08:52]	TR News	"In other applications, you can just change your name." https://ntietz.com/blog/git-mailmap-for-name-changes/ | Source: Nicholas Tietz-Sokolsky
[08:52]	TR Bot	 Using git mailmap when names change (or you mess up your email) | nicole@web
[08:52]	TR News	"PNGs have no maximum file size." https://evanhahn.com/largest-possible-png/ | Source: Evan Hahn
[08:52]	TR Bot	 What's the largest possible PNG?
[08:53]	TR News	"This document describes differences between the 5.36.0 release and the 5.38.0 release." https://perldoc.perl.org/perl5380delta |
[08:53]	TR Bot	 perldelta - what is new for perl v5.38.0 - Perldoc Browser
[08:57]	TR News	 (NEW): Kodi 20.2 "Nexus" - Release http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/04/Kodi_20_2_Nexus_Release.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/04/Kodi_20_2_Nexus_Release.gmi 
[08:57]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Kodi 20.2 "Nexus" - Release
[08:57]	TR News	 (NEW): Devices With Linux and Open Hardware http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/04/Devices_With_Linux_and_Open_Hardware.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/04/Devices_With_Linux_and_Open_Hardware.gmi 
[08:57]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Devices With Linux and Open Hardware
[08:57]	TR News	 (NEW): Perl Programming http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/04/Perl_Programming.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/04/Perl_Programming.gmi 
[08:57]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Perl Programming
[08:57]	TR News	 (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/04/today_s_howtos.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/04/today_s_howtos.gmi 
[08:57]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines today's howtos
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● Jul 04
[09:00]	TR News	"In the same month, then Chief Justice of India Uday Umesh Lalit inaugurated 34 paperless courts covering all 30 districts of the State" https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/other-states/50-more-lower-courts-in-odisha-turn-paperless/article67037878.ece | Source: The Hindu
[09:00]	TR Bot	 50 more lower courts in Odisha turn paperless - The Hindu
[09:00]	TR News	"Let's see how we can crack open all of these!" https://fasterthanli.me/articles/cracking-electron-apps-open | Source: Amos Wenger
[09:00]	TR Bot	 Cracking Electron apps open
[09:02]	TR News	"I have been interested in hi-DPI monitors" https://michael.stapelberg.ch/posts/2023-07-03-dell-u3224kba-32-inch-6k-monitor/ | Source: Michael Stapelberg
[09:02]	TR Bot	 Can Dells 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor? - Michael Stapelberg
[09:02]	TR News	"posted a link towards a class action lawsuit" https://connortumbleson.com/2023/07/03/hyundai-theta-ii-engine/ | Source: Connor Tumbleson
[09:02]	TR Bot	 Hyundai Theta II Engine
[09:02]	TR News	"Part of the excitement of fireworks is how archaic they are." https://blog.adafruit.com/2023/07/03/fireworks-can-make-bad-air-quality-even-worse-for-some-cities-the-answer-is-drones-drone-droneday/ | Source: Adafruit
[09:02]	TR Bot	 Fireworks can make bad air quality even worse. For some cities, the answer is drones #drone #droneday Adafruit Industries Makers, hackers, artists, designers and engineers!
[09:02]	TR News	"They zoom instead of boom. They flash instead of flare." https://www.npr.org/2023/07/03/1185815745/air-quality-fireworks-smoke-july-fourth-drone-displays | Source: NPR
[09:02]	TR Bot	 Poor air quality sparks some cities to get creative with their firework displays : NPR
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[09:14]	TR News	 (NEW): Red Hat and the Clone Wars III: The dawn of CentOS http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/04/Red_Hat_and_the_Clone_Wars_III_The_dawn_of_CentOS.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/04/Red_Hat_and_the_Clone_Wars_III_The_dawn_of_CentOS.gmi 
[09:14]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Red Hat and the Clone Wars III: The dawn of CentOS
[09:14]	TR News	 (NEW): Canonical, SUSE, Oracle/OpenIndiana, and CentOS http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/04/Canonical_SUSE_Oracle_OpenIndiana_and_CentOS.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/04/Canonical_SUSE_Oracle_OpenIndiana_and_CentOS.gmi 
[09:14]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Canonical, SUSE, Oracle/OpenIndiana, and CentOS
[09:14]	TR News	 (NEW): Programming Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/04/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/04/Programming_Leftovers.gmi 
[09:14]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Programming Leftovers
[09:14]	TR News	 (NEW): Audiocasts/Shows: LINUX Unplugged and GNU World Order http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/04/Audiocasts_Shows_LINUX_Unplugged_and_GNU_World_Order.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/04/Audiocasts_Shows_LINUX_Unplugged_and_GNU_World_Order.gmi 
[09:14]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Audiocasts/Shows: LINUX Unplugged and GNU World Order
[09:14]	TR News	 (NEW): Steam Deck KDE development environment, attempt 1: Dont use system libraries http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/04/Steam_Deck_KDE_development_environment_attempt_1_Don_t_use_syst.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/04/Steam_Deck_KDE_development_environment_attempt_1_Don_t_use_sys
[09:14]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Steam Deck KDE development environment, attempt 1: Dont use system libraries
[09:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-03.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-04.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[09:39]	TR News	COVID-19 and Deaths in England and Wales (Sharp Increase Even in 2023) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2023/07/04/sharp-increase-uk-deaths-in-2023/
[09:39]	TR Bot	Blog Archive COVID-19 and Deaths in England and Wales (Sharp Increase Even in 2023)
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[10:00]	TR News	Links 04/07/2023: Kodi 20.2 and Glance at Steam Deck KDE | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/07/04/steam-deck-kde/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/07/04/steam-deck-kde/
[10:00]	TR Bot	 Links 04/07/2023: Kodi 20.2 and Glance at Steam Deck KDE | Techrights
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[10:05]	TR News	Getting to grips with slrn. gopher://jay.scot:70/0/phlog/020.txt
[10:05]	TR News	Week of 2023-07-03 gemini://hyperreal.coffee/reading/2023-07-03-weekly-reading-list-0.gmi
[10:06]	TR News	SpellBinding: BIKYRSL Wordo: WARNS gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2023-07-04.gmi
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[10:09]	TR News	"Other challenges bees face are beyond the control of any one beekeeper, Pettis says." https://text.npr.org/1185391513 | Source: NPR
[10:09]	TR Bot	 Honeybee deaths rose last year. Here's why farmers would go bust without bees
[10:10]	TR News	[Old] "In 2019, there were 461 deaths by suicide among young people aged 1524" https://www.aihw.gov.au/reports/children-youth/mental-illness |
[10:10]	TR Bot	 Australia's youth: Mental illness - Australian Institute of Health and Welfare
[10:10]	TR News	"remote work promotes a more sedentary lifestyle" https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/4076569-remote-work-poses-risks-to-physical-health/ | Source: The Hill
[10:10]	TR Bot	 Remote work poses risks to physical health | The Hill
[10:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-03.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-04.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[10:42]	TR News	[Meme] A Gross Misallocation of Capital | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/07/04/lf-misallocation-of-capital/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/07/04/lf-misallocation-of-capital/
[10:42]	TR Bot	 [Meme] A Gross Misallocation of Capital | Techrights
[10:50]	TR News	ransomware = WINDOWS https://www.databreaches.net/murfreesboro-medical-clinic-surgicenter-ransomware-attack-affected-559000-patients/
[10:50]	TR Bot	 Murfreesboro Medical Clinic & SurgiCenter ransomware attack affected 559,000 patients
[10:50]	TR News	"A systems error involving the Arizona Health Care Cost Containment System (AHCCCS) resulted in 2,632 Health-e-Arizona Plus household accounts having their data accidentally exposed to others accessing the website." https://www.databreaches.net/2632-medicaid-members-in-arizona-being-notified-of-data-leak/
[10:50]	TR Bot	 2,632 Medicaid members in Arizona being notified of data leak
[10:51]	TR News	"ARx Patient Solutions and its affiliate pharmacy, ARx Patient Solutions Pharmacy, have issued a press release about a data breach affecting patient data." https://www.databreaches.net/arx-patient-solutions-and-arx-patient-solutions-pharmacy-notify-patients-of-a-march-2022-breach/
[10:51]	TR Bot	 ARx Patient Solutions and ARx Patient Solutions Pharmacy notify patients of a March, 2022 breach
[10:52]	TR News	Windows. "The Fontana Herald News alerts us to an update by the San Bernardino County Sheriffs Department concerning the ransomware attack they experienced in early April." https://www.databreaches.net/san-bernardino-sheriffs-department-update-cant-rule-out-that-pii-and-phi-were-accessed-in-ransomware-attack/
[10:52]	TR Bot	 San Bernardino Sheriffs Department update: cant rule out that PII and PHI were accessed in ransomware attack
[10:53]	TR News	Cyberattack knocks out satellite communications for Russian military https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2023/06/30/satellite-hacked-russian-military/
[10:53]	TR Bot	 Satellite system used by Russian military is hacked - The Washington Post
[10:57]	TR News	"Industry experts have been particularly focused on the cost of repairing electric cars and trucks" https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/03/business/car-repairs-electric-vehicles.html | Source: New York Times
[10:57]	TR Bot	 Why Car Repairs Have Become So Expensive - The New York Times
[10:58]	TR News	"Charging for TweetDeck, which was previously free and is widely used by businesses and news organizations to easily monitor content" https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/technology/twitter-says-users-must-be-verified-to-access-tweetdeck/articleshow/101470801.cms | Source: India Times
[10:58]	TR Bot	 tweetdeck: Twitter says users must be verified to access TweetDeck - The Economic Times
[10:58]	TR News	"The announcement was made even as TweetDeck users, in particular, faced several problems" https://www.hindustantimes.com/technology/twitter-verified-tweetdeck-company-sets-deadline-elon-musk-twitter-down-101688432602677.html | Source: Hindustan Times
[10:58]	TR Bot	 Twitter users will need to be verified to use TweetDeck; company sets deadline - Hindustan Times
[10:58]	TR News	"Reddit communities are still private in protest of new API rules." https://matt-rickard.com/google-searchs-death-by-a-thousand-cuts | Source: Matt Rickard
[10:58]	TR Bot	 Google Search's Death by a Thousand Cuts
[10:59]	TR News	"According to Barry Schwartz, Google reported 471 million Twitter URLs as of Friday." https://www.rawstory.com/google-twitter/ | Source: Raw Story
[10:59]	TR Bot	 Google decimates Twitter search results after Elon Musk imposes limits on reading tweets - Raw Story - Celebrating 19 Years of Independent Journalism
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[10:59]	TR News	"Since Musk took over the company last year, chaos has reigned at Twitter." https://nltimes.nl/2023/07/03/dutch-advertisers-twitter-certainly-attractive-musks-latest-step | Source: NL Times
[10:59]	TR Bot	 Dutch advertisers: Twitter "certainly not more attractive" after Musk's latest step | NL Times
● Jul 04
[11:00]	TR News	Bringing HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI to the farthest edge requires new computing https://staceyoniot.com/bringing-ai-to-the-farthest-edge-requires-new-computing/ | Source: Stacey on IoT
[11:00]	TR Bot	 Bringing AI to the farthest edge requires new computing - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysis
[11:01]	TR News	"Spain holds the Presidency of the Council of the EU for the fifth time" https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/spain-takes-over-the-presidency-of-the-council-of-the-eu-u-turnon-civil-liberties-needed/ | Source: Patrick Breyer
[11:01]	TR Bot	 Spain takes over the Presidency of the Council of the EU: U-turnon civil liberties needed! Patrick Breyer
[11:01]	TR News	"noybs 101 complaints on unlawful EU-US data transfers" https://noyb.eu/en/noyb-win-first-major-fine-eu-1-million-using-google-analytics | Source: NYOB
[11:01]	TR Bot	 noyb win: First major fine ( 1 million) for using Google Analytics
[11:02]	TR News	"Swedish Authority for Privacy Protection (IMY)" https://www.imy.se/en/news/companies-must-stop-using-google-analytics/ |
[11:02]	TR Bot	 Companies must stop using Google Analytics
[11:02]	TR News	Gulag Analytics is espionage, maybe even a crime... https://www.simpleanalytics.com/blog/sweden-declares-google-analytics-illegal |
[11:03]	TR Bot	 Sweden declares Google Analytics illegal
[11:03]	TR News	IRC Proceedings: Monday, July 03, 2023 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/07/04/irc-log-030723/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/07/04/irc-log-030723/
[11:03]	TR Bot	 IRC Proceedings: Monday, July 03, 2023 | Techrights
[11:04]	TR News	"The GDPR allows the transfer of data to third countries only if the European Commission has determined they offer at least the same level of privacy protection as the EU." https://www.voanews.com/a/sweden-orders-four-companies-to-stop-using-google-tool-/7165555.html | Source: VOA News
[11:04]	TR Bot	 Sweden Orders Four Companies to Stop Using Google Tool
[11:05]	TR News	"Gulag Analytics transfers EU users information" https://siliconangle.com/2023/07/03/sweden-orders-three-companies-stop-using-google-analytics-privacy-concerns/ | Source: Silicon Angle
[11:05]	TR Bot	orders three companies to stop using Google Analytics over privacy concerns - SiliconANGLE
[11:05]	TR News	"Police are already using self-driving car footage as video evidence: [...]" https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2023/07/self-driving-cars-are-surveillance-cameras-on-wheels.html | Source: Bruce Schneier
[11:05]	TR Bot	Cars Are Surveillance Cameras on Wheels - Schneier on Security
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[11:18]	TR News	"He added that the median age of the Chinese population is now 38-years-old." https://www.dw.com/en/china-more-young-people-reject-marriage/a-66100718 | Source: Deutsche Welle
[11:18]	TR Bot	More young people reject marriage DW 07/03/2023
[11:18]	TR News	 (NEW): 10 Reasons to Migrate from CentOS to openSUSE http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/04/10_Reasons_to_Migrate_from_CentOS_to_openSUSE.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/04/10_Reasons_to_Migrate_from_CentOS_to_openSUSE.gmi 
[11:18]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines 10 Reasons to Migrate from CentOS to openSUSE
[11:18]	TR News	 (NEW): Today's Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/04/today_s_leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/04/today_s_leftovers.gmi 
[11:18]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines today's leftovers
[11:18]	TR News	 (NEW): Today in Techrights http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/04/Today_in_Techrights.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/04/Today_in_Techrights.1.gmi 
[11:19]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Today in Techrights
[11:19]	TR News	 (NEW): Perl v5.38.0 released http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/04/Perl_v5_38_0_released.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/04/Perl_v5_38_0_released.gmi 
[11:19]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Perl v5.38.0 released
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[11:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-03.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-04.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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[11:35]	TR News	New Zealand bans plastic https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-66083337 | Source: BBC
[11:35]	TR Bot	 New Zealand bans plastic bags for fresh produce in supermarkets - BBC News
[11:38]	TR News	"When you pay with a card or payment app, user data, as well as fees" https://positivemoney.org/2023/05/an-opportunity-to-stop-the-privatisation-of-money-with-a-digital-pound/ |
[11:38]	TR Bot	 An opportunity to stop the privatisation of money with a digital pound - Positive Money
[11:39]	TR News	"we never really know whether talk means action when it comes to Congress." https://www.technologyreview.com/2023/07/03/1075807/three-things-to-know-about-how-the-us-congress-might-regulate-ai/ | Source: MIT Technology Review
[11:39]	TR Bot	 Three things to know about how the US Congress might regulate AI | MIT Technology Review
[11:44]	TR News	Censorship and Gulag https://hongkongfp.com/2023/07/03/google-required-proof-that-glory-to-hong-kong-was-illegal-technology-chief-says/ | Source: Hong Kong Free Press
[11:44]	TR Bot	 Google required proof that 'Glory to Hong Kong' was illegal, technology chief says - Hong Kong Free Press HKFP
[11:50]	TR News	"All eight fled Hong Kong after Beijing imposed a sweeping national security law" https://www.france24.com/en/asia-pacific/20230704-us-slams-hong-kong-for-issuing-cash-bounties-for-exiled-democracy-activists | Source: France24
[11:50]	TR Bot	 Hong Kong issues arrest warrants for eight overseas pro-democracy activists
[11:50]	TR News	"latest example of Chinas long-arm law enforcement" https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/hong-kong-arrest-warrants-07032023154938.html | Source: RFA
[11:50]	TR Bot	 Hong Kong issues arrest warrants, bounties for eight overseas activists Radio Free Asia
[11:51]	eidolon	https://www.biometricupdate.com/202307/airport-face-biometrics-expansion-in-us-india-accelerating
[11:51]	TR Bot	 Airport face biometrics expansion in US, India accelerating | Biometric Update
[11:51]	TR News	"Phan Son Tung created and managed three YouTube channels" https://www.rfa.org/english/news/vietnam/tung-07032023161117.html | Source: RFA
[11:52]	TR Bot	 Vietnam gives activist 6-year sentence for trying to start new political party Radio Free Asia
[11:52]	schestowitz[TR]	one option is to stop flying
[11:52]	schestowitz[TR]	but there are cases where flights are still needed
[11:53]	TR News	"soft resistance" https://hongkongfp.com/2023/07/04/hong-kong-security-law-to-deal-with-soft-resistance-security-chief-chris-tang-says/ | Source: Hong Kong Free Press
[11:53]	TR Bot	 Hong Kong security law to deal with 'soft resistance,' security chief Chris Tang says - Hong Kong Free Press HKFP
[11:53]	TR News	"The attack on scholarship and on a vulnerable community heralded an eventual descent into unimaginable violence" https://www.truthdig.com/articles/fighting-censorship-is-an-american-tradition/ | Source: Truthdig
[11:53]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.truthdig.com/articles/fighting-censorship-is-an-american-tradition/ )
[11:54]	TR News	"The popular porn site has already ixnayed services in Utah over similar age verification laws." https://gizmodo.com/pornhub-cuts-off-access-in-mississippi-and-virginia-1850602485 | Source: Gizmodo
[11:54]	TR Bot	 You Cant Access Pornhub in Mississippi or Virginia Anymore
[11:55]	TR News	"Since then his wife, father and brother have been campaigning for his release" https://itwire.com/it-industry-news/strategy/assange-spends-another-birthday-in-jail-waiting-for-appeal-outcome.html | Source: IT Wire
[11:55]	TR Bot	- Assange spends another birthday in jail waiting for appeal outcome
[11:55]	TR News	"Njabulo Ncube, director of the industry trade group Zimbabwe National Editors Forum (ZINEF)" https://cpj.org/2023/07/cpj-calls-for-zimbabwe-president-to-reject-patriot-bill-threatening-critical-journalism/ | Source: CPJ
[11:55]	TR Bot	 CPJ calls for Zimbabwe president to reject Patriot Bill threatening critical journalism - Committee to Protect Journalists
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[12:00]	eidolon	schestowitz[TR]: these rollouts of biometric tech aren't limited to the airline industry. It will become difficult to avoid.
[12:02]	eidolon	Though the TSA has a lot of the impetus. Causing people to want to avoid flying for the last 21 years.
[12:19]	TR News	"climate-washing" https://www.desmog.com/2023/07/03/climate-washing-lawsuits-increase-big-oil-pr/ | Source: DeSmog
[12:19]	TR Bot	Over Misleading Climate Claims Has 'Exploded' Over the Past Few Years - DeSmog
[12:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-03.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-04.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[12:22]	TR News	How to Install FluxBB on Debian 11 https://www.rosehosting.com/blog/how-to-install-fluxbb-on-debian-11/ | Source: RoseHosting
[12:22]	TR Bot	to Install FluxBB on Debian 11 - RoseHosting
[12:23]	TR News	"Are you looking to make the shift from using snap packages to flatpaks?" https://ostechnix.com/migrate-from-snap-packages-to-flatpak-using-unsnap/ | Source: OSTechNix
[12:23]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://ostechnix.com/migrate-from-snap-packages-to-flatpak-using-unsnap/ )
[12:24]	TR News	"Apache Spark is a free, open source software framework for developing distributed, parallel processing jobs" https://ubuntu.com//blog/charmed-spark-beta-release | Source: Ubuntu
[12:24]	TR Bot	Spark beta release is out try it today | Ubuntu
[12:26]	schestowitz[TR]	eidolon: the TSA does worse than the above
[12:26]	schestowitz[TR]	and it's not limited to airports and air trabel
[12:26]	schestowitz[TR]	*vel
[12:27]	schestowitz[TR]	being touched by strangers is worse
[12:27]	schestowitz[TR]	being squeezes into planes like sardines is not convenient
[12:28]	schestowitz[TR]	being subjected to passengers with illnesses and no masks
[12:28]	schestowitz[TR]	for many hours
[12:28]	TR News	self-driving https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-06-29/self-driving-car-video-from-waymo-cruise-give-police-crime-evidence
[12:28]	TR Bot	- Are you a robot?
[12:29]	TR News	torygraph on tories https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/07/02/capitalism-has-failed-even-the-tories-cant-defend-it/
[12:29]	TR Bot	 Capitalism has failed. Even the Tories can't defend it
[12:29]	TR News	torygraph on misusing "WhatsApp" in place of secure, official channels of communication https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/07/02/afghanistan-squaddies-retreat-operation-pitting-airs/
[12:29]	TR Bot	 If we get overrun now, Im dead: The RAF aviators scarred by the Kabul airlift
[12:29]	TR News	"Twitter Has Become Paywalled" https://odysee.com/@AlphaNerd:8/twitter-has-become-paywalled-2:f
[12:29]	TR Bot	 Twitter Has Become Paywalled
[12:30]	TR News	privatization https://neritam.wordpress.com/2023/07/02/an-opportunity-to-stop-the-privatization-of-money/
[12:30]	TR Bot	 An opportunity to stop the privatization of money neritam
[12:34]	TR News	"Microsoft deleted the ReactOS repos out of GitHub." http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-020723.html#tJul%2002%2022:54:30
[12:34]	TR Bot	 IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, July 02, 2023
[12:37]	TR News	Red Hat selling complexity: "network infrastructures growth in scale and complexity pose the need for modern enterprise automation solutions such as Red Hat Ansible Automation Platform" https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/accelerating-your-network-automation-journey-ansible-network-validated-content
[12:37]	TR Bot	 Accelerating your network automation journey with Ansible network validated content
[12:38]	TR News	"Automation is driving network engineer skills transformation and is fundamental for modern network management and operations." https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/accelerating-your-network-automation-journey-ansible-network-validated-content | Source: Red Hat Official
[12:38]	TR News	"The 3.5- SBC-EKL is capable of supporting the following Intel processors:" https://linuxgizmos.com/update-kontron-3-5-sbc-powered-by-intel-atom-x6000e-series/ | Source: Linux Gizmos
[12:38]	TR Bot	( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/update-kontron-3-5-sbc-powered-by-intel-atom-x6000e-series/ )
[12:40]	TR News	"Another month down and Valve has announced what's been popular over the last month" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/07/heres-the-top-steam-deck-games-for-june-2023/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[12:40]	TR Bot	the top Steam Deck games for June 2023 | GamingOnLinux
[12:40]	TR News	"GE-Proton" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/07/ge-proton-8-6-is-out-now-fixing-up-more-games-for-linux-and-steam-deck/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[12:40]	TR Bot	8-6 is out now fixing up more games for Linux and Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux
[12:43]	TR News	People don't retire at 56. This man is running away from a company that's up in flames, with products he oversaw being shut down and lots of staff about to get laid off. https://analyticsindiamag.com/microsoft-executive-gurdeep-pall-to-retire/
[12:43]	TR Bot	 Microsoft Executive Gurdeep Pall to Retire
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[12:44]	TR News	Clown computing is a bubble that has burst https://www.crn.com/news/cloud/5-top-aws-executives-who-resigned-departed-in-2023
[12:44]	TR Bot	Top AWS Executives Who Resigned, Departed In 2023 | CRN
[12:45]	TR News	Twitter Accused of Ducking a Fight Over Musks Mass Layoffs https://finance.yahoo.com/news/twitter-accused-ducking-legal-fight-161259726.html
[12:45]	TR Bot	 Twitter Accused of Ducking a Fight Over Musks Mass Layoffs
[12:46]	TR News	Just so we remember who's plundering the economy https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2023/07/04/xenz-j04.html
[12:46]	TR Bot	 Worlds richest added $852 billion to their fortunes in first half of 2023 - World Socialist Web Site
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[12:47]	TR News	Veloren is Free software https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/07/multiplayer-voxel-rpg-veloren-v015-is-out-adding-the-first-world-boss/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[12:47]	TR Bot	voxel RPG 'Veloren' v0.15 is out adding the first world boss | GamingOnLinux
[12:49]	TR News	"The latest Steam Hardware & Software Survey is out for June 2023, and it shows just how much the Linux share is now influenced by the Steam Deck." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/07/nearly-40-of-linux-gamers-on-steam-are-on-steam-deck/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[12:49]	TR Bot	40% of Linux gamers on Steam are on Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux
[12:49]	TR News	"You somehow need even MORE games? Okay well here's the newest Fanatical Trinity Bundle with some indie gems." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/07/fanaticals-latest-trinity-bundle-has-some-quality-indie-hits/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[12:49]	TR Bot	latest Trinity Bundle has some quality indie hits | GamingOnLinux
[12:51]	TR News	"Free, open source and scientific! Thrive is an in-development evolution sim" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/07/evolution-sim-thrive-v063-gives-a-glimpse-of-the-future/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[12:51]	TR Bot	sim Thrive v0.6.3 gives a glimpse of the future | GamingOnLinux
[12:52]	TR News	"BattleBit Remastered is the current game climbing the ranks on Steam" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/07/battlebit-remastered-anti-cheat-for-steam-deck-linux-is-concerning/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[12:52]	TR Bot	Remastered is good fun but anti-cheat for Steam Deck & Linux is concerning | GamingOnLinux
[12:53]	TR News	"monitors blockages on the Russian internet" https://meduza.io/en/news/2023/07/03/roskomsvoboda-seven-yevgeny-prigozhin-2024-sites-blocked-in-russia | Source: Meduza
[12:53]	TR Bot	 Roskomsvoboda: seven Yevgeny Prigozhin 2024 sites blocked in Russia Meduza
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[13:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-03.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-04.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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[14:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-03.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-04.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[14:28]	XRevan86	https://thetruestory.news/en/stories/c3714034-195b-11ee-b7e9-37b4433e13cd "Meta to launch Twitter-like 'Threads' application"
[14:28]	TR Bot	 NO TITLE
[14:28]	XRevan86	Dark ages for Fediverse have begin.
[14:28]	bnchs	lol
[14:28]	XRevan86	* begun
[14:45]	immibis	block threads.net and threads.instagram.com
[14:46]	immibis	remember, most of these megacorp startup products fail. Google has only ever made one product that was actually successful.
[14:46]	immibis	so has facebook
[14:46]	immibis	the rest of their success is just from playing the business game, buying out their competitors until they have none. They aren't good at making products.
[14:48]	TR News	"If youve ever owned a domain name" https://krebsonsecurity.com/2023/07/whos-behind-the-domainnetworks-snail-mail-scam/ | Source: Krebs On Security
[14:48]	TR Bot	 Whos Behind the DomainNetworks Snail Mail Scam? Krebs on Security
[14:48]	psydroid3	https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/norway#monthly-200901-202307
[14:48]	TR Bot	 Desktop Operating System Market Share Norway | Statcounter Global Stats
[14:49]	TR News	"Happy 52nd Birthday to WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange." https://scheerpost.com/2023/07/03/julian-assange-turns-52/ | Source: Scheerpost
[14:49]	TR Bot	Assange Turns 52. - scheerpost.com
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[14:54]	TR News	There's no business model here. They lose money, but the goal is to mess with people's minds. https://www.cloudbooklet.com/spotify-full-length-music-videos/
[14:54]	TR Bot	 Can Spotify Takeon Youtube and TikTok with Full-Length Music Videos
[14:55]	TR News	TikTok should be investigated too, as a side thing at least https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/03/nyregion/new-jersey-judge-gary-wilcox-tiktok.html
[14:55]	TR Bot	 Judge Investigated Over His Profane TikTok Videos - The New York Times
[14:55]	XRevan86	immibis: That won't be necessary, Threads only federates with a whitelist of instances.
[14:56]	TR News	"State Department advisory removes concerns about COVID lockdowns but warns of rise in wrongful detentions." https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/reconsider-travel-advisory-07032023105615.html
[14:56]	TR Bot	 US says reconsider China travel due to exit bans Radio Free Asia
[14:57]	TR News	North Korea appears to lift Covid-19 mask mandate: Reports https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/north-korea-appears-to-lift-covid-19-mask-mandate-reports
[14:57]	TR Bot	 North Korea appears to lift Covid-19 mask mandate: Reports | The Straits Times
[14:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
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[15:13]	TR News	Saudi Arabia and Russia are trying to make oil more expensive https://qz.com/saudi-arabia-and-russia-are-trying-to-make-oil-more-exp-1850602429
[15:13]	TR Bot	 Saudi Arabia and Russia are trying to make oil more expensive
[15:19]	TR News	Award-Winning Russian Journalist And Lawyer Badly Beaten in Chechnya https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-journalist-lawyer-beaten-chechnya/32488422.html
[15:19]	TR Bot	 Award-Winning Russian Journalist And Lawyer Badly Beaten in Chechnya
[15:19]	TR News	U.S. Ambassador To Russia Meets With Detained Journalist Gershkovich, Says He's In 'Good Health' https://www.rferl.org/a/us-ambassador-russia-meets-detained-journalist-gershkovich/32487506.html
[15:20]	TR Bot	 U.S. Ambassador To Russia Meets With Detained Journalist Gershkovich, Says He's In 'Good Health'
[15:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-03.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-04.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[15:21]	TR News	Putins Russia Compared to Smiths Microsoft http://techrights.org/2023/07/03/dictatorships-in-microsoft-and-russia/
[15:21]	TR Bot	 Putins Russia Compared to Smiths Microsoft | Techrights
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[15:23]	TR News	"Evan Gershkovich has been held at Moscows notorious Lefortovo Prison since late March on accusations of espionage that the United States and his employer vehemently reject." https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/03/world/europe/evan-gershkovich-russia-us-ambassador.html
[15:23]	TR Bot	 U.S. Ambassador to Russia Allowed to Meet With Detained WSJ Reporter Evan Gershkovich - The New York Times
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[15:31]	TR News	A developers guide to secure coding with FORTIFY_SOURCE https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2023/07/04/developers-guide-secure-coding-fortifysource
[15:31]	TR Bot	 A developers guide to secure coding with FORTIFY_SOURCE | Red Hat Developer
[15:35]	TR News	How Open Source Can Help Protect Your Organization Against Email Threats https://www.linuxsecurity.com/features/features/open-source-email-threat-protection
[15:35]	TR Bot	 How Open Source Can Help Protect Your Organization Against Email Th...
[15:36]	TR News	Apple, Civil Liberty Groups Condemn UK Online Safety Bill https://www.securityweek.com/apple-civil-liberty-groups-condemn-uk-online-safety-bill/
[15:36]	TR Bot	Civil Liberty Groups Condemn UK Online Safety Bill - SecurityWeek
[15:37]	TR News	Confidential Computing = BACK DOORS sold are secure! JUST OUTSOURCE TO US AND TRUST US (Trust Zemlin too!) https://www.securityweek.com/vmware-tech-giants-announce-push-for-confidential-computing-standards/
[15:37]	TR Bot	Other Tech Giants Announce Push for Confidential Computing Standards - SecurityWeek
[15:39]	TR News	GulagTube is the propaganda. Very blatant and one-sided censorship. https://www.rfa.org/english/news/korea/vlogs-07032023120605.html
[15:39]	TR Bot	 Soft propaganda? YouTube deletes channels promoting North Korean lifestyle Radio Free Asia
[15:39]	TR News	No, Boycott YouTube. https://www.cloudbooklet.com/will-youtube-ad-blocker-crackdown-drive-users-to-youtube-premium/
[15:39]	TR Bot	 Will YouTube ad Blocker Crackdown Drive Users to YouTube Premium
[15:40]	TR News	How to run the future "Snappy-Only" Ubuntu. Today. https://lunduke.substack.com/p/how-to-run-the-future-snappy-only
[15:40]	TR Bot	 How to run the future "Snappy-Only" Ubuntu. Today.
[15:41]	TR News	How To Clear Pip Cache On Linux https://itsubuntu.com/how-to-clear-pip-cache-on-linux/
[15:41]	TR Bot	To Clear Pip Cache On Linux | Itsubuntu
[15:42]	TR News	How to Enable PPP on Ubuntu Linux https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-enable-ppp-on-ubuntu-linux/
[15:42]	TR Bot	to Enable PPP on Ubuntu Linux - LinuxCapable
[15:43]	TR News	How to Exclude Directories, Files, and Patterns with grep https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-exclude-directories-files-and-patterns-with-grep/
[15:43]	TR Bot	to Exclude Directories, Files, and Patterns with grep - LinuxCapable
[15:43]	TR News	How to Fix Umount Target Is Busy Error in Linux https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-fix-umount-target-is-busy-error-in-linux/
[15:43]	TR Bot	to Fix Umount Target Is Busy Error in Linux - LinuxCapable
[15:44]	TR News	How to Install mpv Media Player on Ubuntu 22.04-20.04 https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-install-mpv-media-player-on-ubuntu-linux/
[15:44]	TR Bot	to Install mpv Media Player on Ubuntu 22.04-20.04 - LinuxCapable
[15:45]	TR News	How to Add the Docker Scout Feature to the Docker CLI https://www.techrepublic.com/videos/how-to-add-the-docker-scout-feature-to-the-docker-cli/
[15:45]	TR Bot	 How to Add the Docker Scout Feature to the Docker CLI
[15:45]	TR News	How to Add the Docker Scout Feature to the Docker CLI https://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-to-add-docker-scout-feature/
[15:45]	TR Bot	 How to Add the Docker Scout Feature to the Docker CLI
[15:46]	TR News	Understanding UEFI and BIOS in Relation to Linux Nvidia Driver Installation https://linuxconfig.org/understanding-uefi-and-bios-in-relation-to-linux-nvidia-driver-installation
[15:46]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://linuxconfig.org/understanding-uefi-and-bios-in-relation-to-linux-nvidia-driver-installation )
[15:48]	TR News	Late Night Linux Episode 236 https://latenightlinux.com/late-night-linux-episode-236/
[15:48]	TR Bot	 Late Night Linux Episode 236 Late Night Linux
[15:49]	TR News	A Beginners Guide to the Linux ifconfig Command https://www.linuxcapable.com/linux-ifconfig-command/
[15:49]	TR Bot	Beginner's Guide to the Linux ifconfig Command - LinuxCapable
[15:49]	XRevan86	https://theins.press/en/news/263140
[15:49]	TR Bot	 Novaya Gazeta journalist Elena Milashina and lawyer Alexander Nemov assaulted in Chechnya
[15:50]	TR News	How To Check Your Ubuntu Version Using CLI and GUI https://www.ubuntumint.com/check-ubuntu-version/
[15:50]	TR Bot	 How To Check Your Ubuntu Version via CLI and GUI
[15:50]	XRevan86	https://theins.press/en/news/263143
[15:50]	TR Bot	 Mother of Chechen human rights activists Zarema Musayeva sentenced to 5.5 years in penal colony
[15:50]	TR News	How to Install DVDStyler 3.3 via PPA in Ubuntu 22.04 | 23.04 https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2023/07/install-dvdstyler-3-3-ppa-ubuntu-22-04/
[15:50]	TR Bot	 How to Install DVDStyler 3.3 via PPA in Ubuntu 22.04 | 23.04 | UbuntuHandbook
[15:59]	TR News	 (NEW): Games: Steam Deck, GE-Proton, Free/Libre Gaming, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/04/Games_Steam_Deck_GE_Proton_Free_Libre_Gaming_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/04/Games_Steam_Deck_GE_Proton_Free_Libre_Gaming_and_More.gmi 
[15:59]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Games: Steam Deck, GE-Proton, Free/Libre Gaming, and More
[15:59]	TR News	 (NEW): KDE neon Plasma 6 ISOs http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/04/KDE_neon_Plasma_6_ISOs.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/04/KDE_neon_Plasma_6_ISOs.gmi 
[15:59]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines KDE neon Plasma 6 ISOs
[15:59]	TR News	 (NEW): The Suicide Attempt by Red Hat [Opinion] (UPDATED) http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/01/The_Suicide_Attempt_by_Red_Hat_Opinion.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/01/The_Suicide_Attempt_by_Red_Hat_Opinion.gmi 
[15:59]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines The Suicide Attempt by Red Hat [Opinion] (UPDATED)
[15:59]	TR News	 (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/04/today_s_howtos.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/04/today_s_howtos.1.gmi 
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[16:00]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines today's howtos
[16:00]	TR News	 (NEW): Security Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/04/Security_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/04/Security_Leftovers.gmi 
[16:00]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Security Leftovers
[16:03]	TR News	GNU Binutils 2.41 branched https://sourceware.org/git/?p=binutils-gdb.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/binutils-2_41-branch
[16:04]	TR Bot	Git - binutils-gdb.git/shortlog
[16:05]	TR News	SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM and nothing to do with Linux https://www.linuxtechmore.com/2023/07/renogy-review-power-your-linux-hardware-in-the-wild.html
[16:05]	TR Bot	 Renogy review: Power your Linux hardware in the wild
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[16:17]	immibis	$100: lead-acid battery. $100: car inverter. <$50: wires, connectors and crimp tool if you don't have one
[16:17]	immibis	i was going to solder everything until I happened to walk through an aisle with crimp connectors and the appropriate crimp tool. They are awesome
[16:17]	immibis	you can make compatible connections in seconds instead of warming up the soldering iron
[16:20]	XRevan86	https://washingtonpost.com/technology/2023/07/04/twitter-erica-marsh-suspended/
[16:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-03.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-04.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[16:20]	TR Bot	 Twitter suspends Erica Marsh account after questions are raised - The Washington Post
[16:20]	schestowitz[TR]	XRevan86: twitter is musk if freenode
[16:20]	schestowitz[TR]	andrew lee has an apartheid coussinb
[16:20]	schestowitz[TR]	*cousin
[16:21]	immibis	and if it's a custom system you can easily replace the battery with a bigger one or add more in parallel
[16:22]	immibis	with like a minute of rewiring using the crimp tool
[16:22]	XRevan86	schestowitz: If Musk were a prince, what country he would've been a prince of?
[16:22]	immibis	conservatives live in a fake news world, erica marsh proves it
[16:22]	immibis	it says "viral left-wing twitter account" then says it was mostly popular with conservatives
[16:23]	schestowitz[TR]	XRevan86: : Pretoria 
[16:23]	XRevan86	Mapungubwe Kingdom?
[16:27]	TR News	Links 04/07/2023: Perl 5.38 and Plasma 6 ISOs of KDE neon | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/07/04/perl-5-38/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/07/04/perl-5-38/
[16:27]	TR Bot	 Links 04/07/2023: Perl 5.38 and Plasma 6 ISOs of KDE neon | Techrights
[16:27]	schestowitz[TR]	gulag delists twitter
[16:27]	schestowitz[TR]	advertisers flee in droves
[16:27]	schestowitz[TR]	users complain
[16:28]	schestowitz[TR]	audience walk away
[16:28]	schestowitz[TR]	twitter is dead
[16:28]	schestowitz[TR]	even if he undid the changes
[16:28]	schestowitz[TR]	most damage done already
[16:28]	schestowitz[TR]	and most of that won't be undone
[16:28]	XRevan86	schestowitz: Twitter is still indexed by Google.
[16:28]	schestowitz[TR]	some people pay $9 a month for this shitshow
[16:29]	schestowitz[TR]	XRevan86: you must have missed the news
[16:29]	schestowitz[TR]	http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/04/Proprietary_Software_Leftovers.shtml
[16:29]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Proprietary Software Leftovers
[16:29]	schestowitz[TR]	see #3 and #4 link
[16:29]	XRevan86	"Google had removed 52% of Twitter links" <- Huh.
[16:30]	XRevan86	It's not a complete delisting for sure, I just put a Twitter account into Google search and it returned some fresh posts.
[16:31]	XRevan86	https://mozilla.org/firefox/115.0/releasenotes/
[16:31]	TR Bot	 Firefox 115.0, See All New Features, Updates and Fixes
[16:32]	TR News	WTF??? Latest YouTube takes over one's desktop via Firefox and latches onto the "media" component. This isn't normal. Web browsers became leeches for notifications before, but not this...
[16:32]	schestowitz[TR]	<XRevan86> "Google had removed 52% of Twitter links" <- Huh.
[16:32]	schestowitz[TR]	52% so far
[16:32]	schestowitz[TR]	and they are not coming back
[16:32]	schestowitz[TR]	after just 4.5 days
[16:33]	schestowitz[TR]	Gulag does not want to lead users to walls
[16:33]	schestowitz[TR]	it hurts Gulag itself
[16:33]	immibis	it should be the normal indexing process
[16:33]	immibis	not some punishment like people are saying
[16:33]	immibis	elon hurt itself in confusion
[16:34]	schestowitz[TR]	did he ever make a site
[16:34]	schestowitz[TR]	for that sham sold to paypal?
[16:34]	schestowitz[TR]	this is very basic stuff
[16:34]	schestowitz[TR]	don't break urls or block spiders without good reason
[16:35]	TR News	"While I sometimes watch some short films on and off, its been awhile since I sat down and watched an entire film. That changed today." gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1470
[16:36]	TR News	"My mother told me as a child, "You will grow up to be as tall as your father", who was over six feet tall. I am still waiting." gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~stack/gemlog/2023-07-04.short.gmi
[16:37]	TR News	"I was largely invisible as a potential sex partner. Recent data from dating sites confirms it: for every inch of height (in men -- bra size in women) the potential match pool doubles. There is literally a factor of 1000 between someone 5'4" and 6'2". ONE THOUSAND!" gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~stack/gemlog/2023-07-04.short.gmi
[16:39]	immibis	i have a reply from the data protection agency of Berlin; they tell me Twitter is a registered company in Hamburg so they have passed my complaint to the authorities in Hamburg
[16:39]	immibis	amazing! an actual human-written response from the faceless machine!
[16:40]	immibis	the machine is attempting to do my bidding!
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[16:48]	psydroid3	https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/all/europe#monthly-202306-202307-map
[16:48]	TR Bot	 Operating System Market Share Europe | Statcounter Global Stats
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[17:16]	TR News	 (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/04/Android_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/04/Android_Leftovers.gmi 
[17:16]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Android Leftovers
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[17:16]	TR News	 (NEW): Today's Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/04/today_s_leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/04/today_s_leftovers.1.gmi 
[17:16]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines today's leftovers
[17:17]	TR News	 (NEW): Proprietary Software Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/04/Proprietary_Software_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/04/Proprietary_Software_Leftovers.gmi 
[17:17]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Proprietary Software Leftovers
[17:17]	TR News	 (NEW): Peppermint OS Ditches the Sweet Logo and Gets a Major Makeover with Debian 12 'Bookworm' http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/04/Peppermint_OS_Ditches_the_Sweet_Logo_and_Gets_a_Major_Makeover_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/04/Peppermint_OS_Ditches_the_Sweet_Logo_and_Gets_a_Major_Makeover_.gmi 
[17:17]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Peppermint OS Ditches the Sweet Logo and Gets a Major Makeover with Debian 12 'Bookworm'
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[17:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-03.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-04.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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[17:23]	TR News	Weekly report 5, LLVM libc https://blogs.gentoo.org/gsoc/2023/07/04/weekly-report-5-llvm-libc/
[17:23]	TR Bot	 Weekly report 5, LLVM libc | Gentoo Google Summer of Code
[17:27]	TR News	Bash Script to Call a Function and Get Return https://tecadmin.net/bash-script-to-call-a-function-and-get-return/
[17:27]	TR Bot	 Bash Script to Call a Function and Get Return TecAdmin
[17:28]	TR News	Add CloudFront CDN to a Ghost blog https://major.io/p/ghost-cloudfront-cdn/
[17:28]	TR Bot	 Add CloudFront CDN to a Ghost blog Major Hayden
[17:34]	TR News	The Fridge: Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 794 https://fridge.ubuntu.com/2023/07/03/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-794/
[17:34]	TR Bot	 Ubuntu Fridge | Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 794
[17:35]	TR News	Behind the Screen: Browser History, Cookies, and Caches https://www.linuxcapable.com/behind-the-screen-browser-history-cookies-and-caches/
[17:35]	TR Bot	the Screen: Browser History, Cookies, and Caches - LinuxCapable
[17:36]	TR News	Machine Learning in Linux: Argos Translate is an Offline Translation Library https://www.linuxlinks.com/machine-learning-linux-argos-translate/
[17:36]	TR Bot	Learning in Linux: Argos Translate is an Offline Translation Library - LinuxLinks
[17:39]	TR News	New Peppermint OS Release Based on Debian 12 https://www.omglinux.com/peppermint-os-debian-12/
[17:39]	TR Bot	 New Peppermint OS Release Based on Debian 12 - OMG! Linux
[17:42]	TR News	Using ls Command in Linux https://itsfoss.com/ls-command/
[17:42]	TR Bot	 Using ls Command in Linux
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[17:51]	TR News	 (NEW): A Wild Bedtime Mode for GNOME Desktop Appears http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/04/A_Wild_Bedtime_Mode_for_GNOME_Desktop_Appears.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/04/A_Wild_Bedtime_Mode_for_GNOME_Desktop_Appears.gmi 
[17:51]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines A Wild Bedtime Mode for GNOME Desktop Appears
[17:51]	TR News	 (NEW): Ubuntu Apt News Feature Coming to GUI Software Updater http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/04/Ubuntu_Apt_News_Feature_Coming_to_GUI_Software_Updater.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/04/Ubuntu_Apt_News_Feature_Coming_to_GUI_Software_Updater.gmi 
[17:51]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Ubuntu Apt News Feature Coming to GUI Software Updater
[17:53]	TR News	UPDATED: Want to save your aging computer? Try these 5 Linux distributions https://www.zdnet.com/article/want-to-save-your-aging-computer-try-these-5-linux-distributions/
[17:53]	TR Bot	to save your aging computer? Try these 5 Linux distributions | ZDNET
[17:55]	TR News	Which Ubuntu flavor is best suited for you? https://www.zdnet.com/article/which-ubuntu-flavor-is-best-suited-for-you/
[17:55]	TR Bot	Ubuntu flavor is best suited for you? | ZDNET
[17:55]	TR News	Xubuntu is a highly configurable Linux desktop that can be tweaked to your heart's content https://www.zdnet.com/article/xubuntu-is-a-highly-configurable-linux-desktop-that-can-be-tweaked-to-your-hearts-content/
[17:55]	TR Bot	is a highly configurable Linux desktop that can be tweaked to your heart's content | ZDNET
[17:59]	TR News	"A handful of folks said they wouldnt attend because the pandemic" https://mwl.io/archives/22932
[17:59]	TR Bot	 Junes Jerryrigged Sausage Michael W Lucas
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[17:59]	TR News	Asian stocks dip https://michaelwest.com.au/asian-stocks-dip-as-investors-seek-rates-clarity/ | Source: Michael West Media
[17:59]	TR Bot	 Asian stocks dip as investors seek rates clarity - Michael West
● Jul 04
[18:03]	TR News	Bird & Bird and Team UPC bribe JUVE not just to promote utterly illegal agenda but also to post outright spam as if it is news. JUVE jumped the shark years ago and become a fervent proponent of white-collar crime. https://www.juve-patent.com/people-and-business/bird-bird-expands-patent-partnership-in-dublin/
[18:03]	TR Bot	 Bird & Bird expands patent partnership in Dublin - JUVE Patent
[18:03]	TR News	What Will be Left After Neil Left IP Kat? More Lobbying for Illegal Agenda Such as Unitary Patent and Unified Patent Court (UPC)? http://techrights.org/2023/07/03/ip-kat-and-upc/
[18:03]	TR Bot	 What Will be Left After Neil Left IP Kat? More Lobbying for Illegal Agenda Such as Unitary Patent and Unified Patent Court (UPC)? | Techrights
[18:05]	TR News	This is illegal. As staff of the EPO has pointed out in publications, this is a violation of the EPC. EPO has become an outlaw organisation, operating in a vacuum for multinationals and patent sharks. http://www.epo.org/news-events/news/2023/20230703.html
[18:05]	TR Bot	 EPO - MyEPO Portfolio - completion of second pilot phase and a step closer towards a fully digitalised patent grant procedure
[18:06]	TR News	Building a Better BOTOX? PGR and Enablement https://patentlyo.com/patent/2023/07/building-better-enablement.html
[18:06]	TR Bot	 Building a Better BOTOX? PGR and Enablement | Patently-O
[18:06]	TR News	Facebook Contributed to Death of Online Journalism and Whats Left Online Isnt Covering Real Facebook Scandals http://techrights.org/2023/07/03/facebook-and-press/
[18:06]	TR Bot	 Facebook Contributed to Death of Online Journalism and Whats Left Online Isnt Covering Real Facebook Scandals | Techrights
[18:06]	AdmFubar	https://arstechnica.com/?p=1951516
[18:06]	TR Bot	 The link rot spreads: GIF-hosting site Gfycat shutting down Sept. 1 | Ars Technica
[18:06]	TR News	Reading News on the Web Without Curation and Cruft-Reducing Tools Will Become Harder http://techrights.org/2023/07/03/news-on-the-web/
[18:07]	TR Bot	 Reading News on the Web Without Curation and Cruft-Reducing Tools Will Become Harder | Techrights
[18:07]	TR News	Consider Twitters Humongous Debt (Insolvency Likely Impending) When Assessing the Decision Not to Pay Severance, Rent, and Hosting Bills http://techrights.org/2023/07/03/twitter-humongous-debt/
[18:07]	TR Bot	 Consider Twitters Humongous Debt (Insolvency Likely Impending) When Assessing the Decision Not to Pay Severance, Rent, and Hosting Bills | Techrights
[18:07]	TR News	The Corporate Cancel Culture Industry Part III: Non-Technical People Trying to Ruin the Lives of the Geeks http://techrights.org/2023/07/04/cancel-the-geeks/
[18:07]	TR Bot	 The Corporate Cancel Culture Industry Part III: Non-Technical People Trying to Ruin the Lives of the Geeks | Techrights
[18:08]	TR News	False quote (but widely spread and misattributed): I freed a thousand slaves; I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves http://techrights.org/2023/07/04/modern-slavery-false-dichotomy/
[18:08]	TR Bot	 False quote (but widely spread and misattributed): I freed a thousand slaves; I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves | Techrights
[18:08]	AdmFubar	there is hope for everyone here!! https://arstechnica.com/?p=1951617
[18:08]	TR Bot	 One shot of a kidney protein gave monkeys a brain boost | Ars Technica
[18:10]	TR News	Exclusive: Microsoft faces EU antitrust probe after remedies fall short, sources say https://www.reuters.com/technology/eu-investigation-into-microsoft-likely-after-remedies-fall-short-sources-say-2023-07-03/
[18:10]	TR Bot	Microsoft faces EU antitrust probe after remedies fall short, sources say | Reuters
[18:11]	TR News	 (NEW): Linux-based Fatdog64-814 debuts as the final release of the 800 series http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/04/Linux_based_Fatdog64_814_debuts_as_the_final_release_of_the_800.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/04/Linux_based_Fatdog64_814_debuts_as_the_final_release_of_the_800.gmi 
[18:11]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Linux-based Fatdog64-814 debuts as the final release of the 800 series
[18:11]	TR News	 (NEW): Ubuntu Types, Xubuntu, and Newsletter http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/04/Ubuntu_Types_Xubuntu_and_Newsletter.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/04/Ubuntu_Types_Xubuntu_and_Newsletter.gmi 
[18:11]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Ubuntu Types, Xubuntu, and Newsletter
[18:11]	TR News	Gurdeep Pall Knows Whats Coming (to Microsoft) http://techrights.org/2023/07/03/gurdeep-pall-knows-whats-coming-to-microsoft/
[18:11]	TR Bot	 Gurdeep Pall Knows Whats Coming (to Microsoft) | Techrights
[18:11]	TR News	New Rumour: Microsofts Next Big Round of Layoffs Starts Next Week http://techrights.org/2023/07/04/microsoft-layoffs-july-2023/
[18:12]	TR Bot	 New Rumour: Microsofts Next Big Round of Layoffs Starts Next Week | Techrights
[18:12]	AdmFubar	Love the phrase "manifest-confusion-issues"  there more of that in everyday life, not just in javascript"  https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/new-python-tool-checks-npm-packages-for-manifest-confusion-issues/
[18:12]	TR Bot	 New Python tool checks NPM packages for manifest confusion issues
[18:12]	TR News	Microsoft Has Reportedly Sold Just 21 Million Xbox Series X and S Consoles https://www.tomshardware.com/news/microsoft-xbox-series-x-s-console-sales-shown
[18:12]	TR Bot	 Microsoft Has Reportedly Sold Just 21 Million Xbox Series X and S Consoles | Tom's Hardware
[18:13]	AdmFubar	https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/300-000-plus-fortinet-firewalls-vulnerable-to-critical-fortios-rce-bug/
[18:13]	TR Bot	 300,000+ Fortinet firewalls vulnerable to critical FortiOS RCE bug
[18:14]	TR News	To quote: "Microsoft's 21m Xbox Series X and S sales pale in comparison to rival numbers." See http://techrights.org/2023/05/06/xbox-sales-really-bad/ In short, XBox as a business may not be viable anymore
[18:14]	TR Bot	 Why Microsoft Was Trying to Buy Activision and Look Big in 2022 (XBox Was Failing, XBox as a Whole Might Die Soon) | Techrights
[18:17]	AdmFubar	https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/06/student-monitoring-tools-should-not-flag-lgbtq-keywords
[18:17]	TR Bot	 Student Monitoring Tools Should Not Flag LGBTQ+ Keywords | Electronic Frontier Foundation
[18:18]	AdmFubar	https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/06/ftc-forces-ring-take-user-privacy-seriously
[18:18]	TR Bot	 The FTC Forces Ring to Take User Privacy Seriously | Electronic Frontier Foundation
[18:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-03.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-04.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[18:21]	TR News	"I agree with Aciduss points about tables: they are far, far too heavyweight for Gemtext. The burned in tables look good to me." gemini://circadian.gemlog.org/2023-07-04-gemtext-tweaks.gmi
[18:22]	TR News	"I recently learned that tilde.pink's mail setup works perfect, with mutt pre-installed, and I can accept and send email at my username at tilde.pink. If anyone wants to reply to my posts directly, this is an option!" gemini://tilde.pink/~slondr/16-messidor.gmi
[18:28]	AdmFubar	is elon self driving twitter into the ground??? https://www.firstpost.com/tech/news-analysis/elon-musk-limiting-how-many-tweets-users-can-see-shows-hes-hellbent-on-gutting-twitter-12816762.html
[18:28]	TR Bot	 Twitters Bane: Elon Musk limiting how many tweets users can see shows he's hellbent on gutting it
[18:34]	AdmFubar	https://foreverwars.ghost.io/abolish-section-702/
[18:34]	TR Bot	 Abolish Section 702
[18:38]	AdmFubar	https://www.ghacks.net/2023/07/04/mastodon-android-app-new/
[18:38]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.ghacks.net/2023/07/04/mastodon-android-app-new/ )
[18:41]	AdmFubar	https://www.ghacks.net/2023/07/04/waterfox-browser-cuts-ties-with-system-1-to-celebrate-independence/
[18:41]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.ghacks.net/2023/07/04/waterfox-browser-cuts-ties-with-system-1-to-celebrate-independence/ )
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[18:59]	AdmFubar	https://freespeech.com/2023/06/27/another-icann-sham-review-of-public-comments/
[18:59]	TR Bot	ICANN Sham Review of Public Comments FreeSpeech.com
● Jul 04
[19:02]	AdmFubar	https://hackaday.com/2023/07/02/computer-speed-gains-erased-by-modern-software/
[19:02]	TR Bot	Speed Gains Erased By Modern Software | Hackaday
[19:03]	AdmFubar	https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2023/07/04/threat-actors-detection-evasion/
[19:03]	TR Bot	 Fileless attacks increase 1,400% - Help Net Security
[19:03]	AdmFubar	https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2023/07/03/hybrid-cloud-security-breaches/
[19:03]	TR Bot	 One third of security breaches go unnoticed by security professionals - Help Net Security
[19:04]	AdmFubar	https://www.icij.org/investigations/pandora-papers/lawmakers-urge-europe-to-heed-pandora-papers-lessons/
[19:04]	TR Bot	 Lawmakers urge Europe to heed Pandora Papers 'lessons' - ICIJ
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[19:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-03.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-04.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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[20:06]	AdmFubar	https://newart.press/p/the-lines-blur-further-how-ai-generated
[20:06]	TR Bot	 The Lines Blur Further: How AI-Generated Music Hits in a Litigious, Sample-Friendly World
[20:14]	AdmFubar	https://www.pogowasright.org/madison-square-garden-sued-over-facial-id-technology-at-venues/
[20:14]	TR Bot	 Madison Square Garden Sued Over Facial ID Technology at Venues
[20:16]	AdmFubar	https://restofworld.org/2023/cambodia-ban-facebook-threat/
[20:16]	TR Bot	 The Cambodian government tried to cut ties with Facebook via a Facebook post - Rest of World
[20:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-03.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-04.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[20:24]	AdmFubar	https://slashdot.org/story/23/07/04/1740205/chatgpt-pauses-bing-integration-to-stop-people-from-bypassing-paywalls
[20:24]	TR Bot	 ChatGPT Pauses Bing Integration To Stop People From Bypassing Paywalls - Slashdot
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[20:29]	AdmFubar	https://www.tweaktown.com/news/92202/reddit-takes-major-hit-from-protesting-subreddits-that-are-striking-the-platform-where-it-hurts/index.html
[20:29]	TR Bot	 Reddit takes major hit from protesting subreddits that are striking the platform where it hurts
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[20:40]	AdmFubar	https://walledculture.org/how-long-before-all-browsers-are-required-by-law-to-prevent-users-from-opening-allegedly-infringing-sites/
[20:40]	TR Bot	reply from server ( status 0 @ https://walledculture.org/how-long-before-all-browsers-are-required-by-law-to-prevent-users-from-opening-allegedly-infringing-sites/ )
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[20:54]	starstreak	https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/elon-musk-children-voting-rights-b2369096.html
[20:54]	TR Bot	 Elon Musk supports eliminating voting rights for people without children | The Independent
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[21:05]	XRevan86	AdmFubar: Did Elon take Idiocracy at face value?
[21:09]	starstreak	right
[21:09]	starstreak	he complains that smart people aren't having kids but he wants to take their voting rights away
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[21:10]	XRevan86	starstreak: He has a point he has kids.
[21:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-03.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-04.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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[21:55]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: I decided to get rid of a bunch of Earl Grey by making it into iced tea.
[21:56]	DaemonFC	It's been up there a while.
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[22:12]	DaemonFC	https://www.independent.co.uk/space/instagram-meta-twitter-mark-zuckerberg-facebook-b2369055.html
[22:12]	TR Bot	 New Meta app Threads first credible threat to Twitter | The Independent
[22:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-03.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-04.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[22:23]	TR News	Somehow I like this one more than that. Whatever shall I do? gemini://dimension.sh/~textmonger/2023-07-04-01-somehow-i-like-this-one-more-than-that-whatever-shall-i-do.gmi
[22:24]	TR News	2023-07-04 gopher://sdf.org:70/0/users/canfood/phlog/2023-07-04
[22:26]	TR News	"Now I have to use a smartphone more often (as a remote control for some home equipment) so I have decided for a small challenge. The plan is to be as non-digital as possible." gopher://sdf.org:70/0/users/jirka/Phlog/2023_07_01.txt
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[22:29]	TR News	The Reader gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~stack/gemlog/2023-07-04.reader.gmi
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[22:30]	TR News	<blockquote> <p> </p> </blockquote>
[22:31]	TR News	Re: CircaDian: Gemtext Tweaks gemini://dimension.sh/~textmonger/2023-07-04-02-re-circadian-gemtext-tweaks.gmi
[22:36]	TR News	"in May, Microsoft announced layoffs of 158 employees from its headquarters in Redmond, Washington." https://www.internationalnewsandviews.com/tech-giants-layoffs-continue-google-alphabet-amazon-microsoft-among-hardest-hit/
[22:36]	TR Bot	 Tech Giants Layoffs Continue: Google , Alphabet, Amazon, Microsoft Among Hardest Hit - INVC
[22:37]	DaemonFC	I haven't quite caught up on the old Dr. Who.
[22:37]	DaemonFC	I got a bunch of them as xvid (yeah).
[22:45]	TR News	Cannibalism https://michaelwest.com.au/meta-to-launch-twitter-style-microblogging-app-threads/ | Source: Michael West Media
[22:45]	TR Bot	 Meta to launch Twitter-style microblogging app Threads - Michael West
[22:47]	TR News	Nokia is a patent parasite and the parasites are building walls. JUVE, a propaganda platform of patent sharks and people who break the law, covers this in a shallow manner. https://www.juve-patent.com/people-and-business/nokia-and-apple-renew-multi-year-5g-patent-licensing-agreement/
[22:47]	TR Bot	 Nokia and Apple renew 'multi-year' 5G patent licensing agreement - JUVE Patent
[22:49]	TR News	No, because it does not sell. https://siliconangle.com/2023/07/03/apple-reportedly-scales-back-vision-pro-production-due-design-complexity/
[22:49]	TR Bot	reportedly scales back Vision Pro production because of design complexity - SiliconANGLE
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[22:50]	TR News	"we cant fix Americas housing problems without letting go of our obsession with owning houses as investments." https://macwright.com/2023/07/03/recently.html
[22:50]	TR Bot	- macwright.com
[22:52]	TR News	Gulag testing block on YouTube users who have ad-blocking software https://itwire.com/technology-regulation/google-testing-block-on-youtube-users-who-have-ad-blocking-software.html
[22:52]	TR Bot	- Google testing block on YouTube users who have ad-blocking software
[22:52]	XRevan86	https://en.zona.media/article/2023/07/04/grozny
[22:52]	TR Bot	 Journalist who exposed antiLGBT violence and human rights lawyer attacked in Chechnya. What we know about the assault on Elena Milashina and Alexander Nemov
[22:53]	XRevan86	https://theins.press/en/news/263161
[22:53]	TR Bot	 They knew what they wanted and what their limits were: Elena Milashina and Alexander Nemov recount being beaten and forced to eat soil
[22:53]	TR News	Former Hong Kong legislators charged with separatism under National Security Law https://www.jurist.org/news/2023/07/former-hong-kong-legislators-charged-with-separatism-under-national-security-law/
[22:53]	TR Bot	 Former Hong Kong legislators charged with separatism under National Security Law - JURIST - News
[22:55]	TR News	Deloitte probe into Optus attack will be released... when??? https://itwire.com/open-sauce/deloitte-probe-into-optus-attack-will-be-released-when.html
[22:55]	TR Bot	- Deloitte probe into Optus attack will be released... when???
[22:58]	TR News	Researchers warn unpatched Fortinet firewalls are exposed to critical vulnerability https://siliconangle.com/2023/07/03/researchers-warn-unpatched-fortinet-firewalls-exposed-critical-vulnerability/
[22:58]	TR Bot	warn unpatched Fortinet firewalls are exposed to critical vulnerability - SiliconANGLE
[22:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
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[23:03]	DaemonFC	https://www.inc.com/geoffrey-james/burger-king-makes-a-240-profit-when-you-say-yes-to-this-quick-question.html
[23:03]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.inc.com/geoffrey-james/burger-king-makes-a-240-profit-when-you-say-yes-to-this-quick-question.html )
[23:04]	DaemonFC	They increased the price. It now adds $1 to a Whopper to add a slice of cheese.
[23:04]	DaemonFC	I just bring a few slices from home and slap them on there when I know we're going to Burger King.
[23:04]	TR News	Picopad https://hackaday.com/2023/06/30/picopad-is-a-new-open-source-game-console/ | Source: Hackaday
[23:04]	TR Bot	Is A New Open Source Game Console | Hackaday
[23:04]	DaemonFC	I mean, it makes sense. You usually have some sliced cheese in the fridge anyway.
[23:06]	TR News	Mentoring & training program for Scientific Open Source Champions https://www.r-bloggers.com/2023/06/mentoring-training-program-for-scientific-open-source-champions/
[23:06]	TR Bot	& training program for Scientific Open Source Champions | R-bloggers
[23:07]	DaemonFC	They got me with the cheese a couple times then when I saw them go "Cheese $1.00" a few times down the receipt I was like "WTF. I go to Burger King at least once a week with Mandy. How much is cheese costing me?"
[23:07]	TR News	How To Install PostgreSQL on Debian 12 https://idroot.us/install-postgresql-debian-12/
[23:07]	TR Bot	 How To Install PostgreSQL on Debian 12 - idroot
[23:07]	DaemonFC	You go in there with a coupon and get a few burgers just once a week, you're paying over $150 a year for some cheese slices.
[23:07]	DaemonFC	It's where they get you.
[23:08]	DaemonFC	The cheese slices are like 10-11 cents at the grocery store for the good stuff (Kraft).
[23:08]	TR News	Tellico 3.5.1 Released https://tellico-project.org/tellico-3-5-1-released/
[23:08]	TR Bot	 Tellico 3.5.1 Released Tellico
[23:08]	DaemonFC	So $1 for a cheese slice is like 10x markup vs. retail.
[23:09]	TR News	Should solve the collapse, not "CHANGE THE NARRATIVE". But his biggest sponsor is Michael Bloomberg. He's himself part of the problem. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/03/opinion/biden-economy-inflation-unemployment.html
[23:09]	TR Bot	 Opinion | Can Biden Change the Economic Narrative? - The New York Times
[23:09]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR] says he participated in this fuckery as a teenager.
[23:09]	DaemonFC	That practically puts him up there with DRSTABBY.
[23:09]	DaemonFC	;)
[23:10]	schestowitz[TR]	stabby pr knife?
[23:11]	TR News	CJEU declares Meta/Facebook's GDPR approach largely illegal https://noyb.eu/en/cjeu-declares-metafacebooks-gdpr-approach-largely-illegal
[23:11]	TR Bot	 CJEU declares Meta/Facebook's GDPR approach largely illegal
[23:11]	schestowitz[TR]	*or
[23:11]	schestowitz[TR]	drknife said i posted my address online
[23:11]	schestowitz[TR]	this is not correct
[23:11]	schestowitz[TR]	he's trying to justify finding my address
[23:12]	DaemonFC	He doxxed you, is what you say. Why does STAB ON *claps* STAB OFF *claps* THE STABBER *clap clap* (which is what you'll get from him at a conference) say you posted it yourself?
[23:12]	schestowitz[TR]	fart fart fart fart  becomes stab stab stab stab 
[23:12]	schestowitz[TR]	unstable people
[23:12]	schestowitz[TR]	don't go on their radar
[23:12]	DaemonFC	Just get on Grindr and pretty soon you'll have the clap so many times it's the applause.
[23:13]	DaemonFC	I think he's more likely to stab someone nearby than to buy plane tickets first.
[23:13]	TR News	Kyrgyz Constitutional Court Legalizes Matronymic Names Following Activist's Battle https://www.rferl.org/a/kyrgyzstan-legalize-matronymic-names/32486997.html
[23:13]	TR Bot	 Kyrgyz Constitutional Court Legalizes Matronymic Names Following Activist's Battle
[23:13]	DaemonFC	Going off of what usually happens with that sort.
[23:14]	DaemonFC	Intense psychotic episodes are usually not conducive to long travel.
[23:14]	DaemonFC	Except for the astronaut lady with the adult diaper who wore it so she wouldn't have to stop and take a piss along the way.
[23:15]	TR News	Blame-shifting lies, the "media" should quit parroting a known liar https://siliconangle.com/2023/07/02/elon-musk-blames-ai-scraping-twitter-problems/
[23:15]	TR Bot	Musk blames AI scraping for Twitter problems - SiliconANGLE
[23:15]	DaemonFC	Burger King is sort of circling the drain. I think franchisees are charging $1 per slice of cheese because it's not something a lot of people think about. Corporate for these chains inflicts coupons they don't really want on them because they either don't make money or its a few pennies per transaction.
[23:16]	DaemonFC	So they get back at you somewhere like drinks or sliced cheese for $1 a slice.
[23:16]	TR News	Facebook: let's copy this company that LOSES a lot of money https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/03/technology/meta-app-twitter.html
[23:16]	TR Bot	 Meta Unveils Threads App to Take on Twitter - The New York Times
[23:16]	TR News	Australian firm sues Twitter for $901k for not paying bills https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/australianz/australian-firm-sues-twitter-for-901k-for-not-paying-bills
[23:16]	TR Bot	 Australian firm sues Twitter for $901k for not paying bills | The Straits Times
[23:17]	DaemonFC	I have a hard time figuring out where you make much of a profit on three Whoppers, three cheeseburgers, and three medium french fries for $16.99 these days.
[23:17]	DaemonFC	Honestly I couldn't cook it myself for that, PLUS Mandy has something to bring to work the next day for lunch.
[23:17]	DaemonFC	So the only way to make profit is ask if they want cheese on the Whoppers or any drinks.
[23:18]	TR News	"The DeSantis War Room Twitter account released a video " https://www.axios.com/2023/07/02/desantis-lgbtq-video-buttigieg-republican-2024-candidates
[23:18]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.axios.com/2023/07/02/desantis-lgbtq-video-buttigieg-republican-2024-candidates )
[23:18]	TR News	Elon Musk Really Broke Twitter This Time https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2023/07/twitter-outage-elon-musk-user-restrictions/674609/
[23:18]	TR Bot	 Elon Musk Really Broke Twitter This Time - The Atlantic
[23:18]	TR News	Meta platforms set to launch Twitter rival Threads https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20230703-twitter-says-users-need-to-be-verified-to-access-tweetdeck
[23:18]	TR Bot	 Meta platforms set to launch Twitter rival Threads
[23:18]	DaemonFC	As a smart customer, you could bring your own drinks and cheese and slip off to a table somewhere where they won't see you. Honestly, no minimum wage employee is going to complain you brought some Kraft cheese and homemade iced tea.
[23:19]	TR News	How many people refuse to learn from the mistake of outsourcing to a private/public company? https://siliconangle.com/2023/07/03/twitters-woes-continue-meta-looks-set-launch-new-competitor/
[23:19]	TR Bot	Twitter's woes continue, Meta looks set to launch a new competitor called Threads - SiliconANGLE
[23:19]	DaemonFC	When I lived in Indiana, the Burger King and the McDonalds were right next to each other, so I'd park over at McDonalds, go into Burger King, get a Whopper, go into McDonalds and get a fries and coke.
[23:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-03.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-04.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[23:20]	TR News	Bluesky is tiny. This hype is marketing. https://nypost.com/2023/07/04/elon-musks-rate-limits-on-twitter-send-blueskys-traffic-to-record-high/
[23:20]	TR Bot	 Elon Musk's rate limits on Twitter send Bluesky's traffic to record high
[23:21]	TR News	"Elon Musk is already undermining her role publicly." https://qz.com/elon-musk-daily-tweet-limit-twitter-ceo-linda-yaccarino-1850600815
[23:21]	TR Bot	 Elon Musk made Twitter CEO Linda Yaccarino's job even harder
[23:21]	DaemonFC	Burger King sells the Whopper cheaply because they figure you'll buy a fries ($2.49) and Coke ($3). McDonalds has $1 large fries with $1 Coke because they expect you'll buy a burger. They have opposing assumptions, and McDonalds has better fries and Coke anyway.
[23:21]	DaemonFC	So it's the best of both worlds. You get the deal at both places.
[23:21]	TR News	Indias Karnataka High Court dismisses Twitter petition and imposes fine https://www.jurist.org/news/2023/07/indias-karnataka-high-court-dismisses-twitter-account-blocking-petition-and-imposes-fine/
[23:21]	TR Bot	 India state high court dismisses Twitter petition against central government blocking orders, imposing fine - JURIST - News
[23:22]	TR News	Instead of "says Elon Musk" maybe check what's true and report facts https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20230701-twitter-limits-the-number-of-tweets-read-per-day-says-elon-musk
[23:22]	TR Bot	 Twitter temporarily limiting the number of tweets read per day, says Elon Musk
[23:22]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: I'm using GULAG PAY for a few months.
[23:22]	TR News	Twitter endorsed him. https://federalnewsnetwork.com/government-news/2023/07/an-anti-trump-video-shared-by-the-desantis-campaign-is-homophobic-says-a-conservative-lgbt-group/
[23:22]	TR Bot	 An anti-Trump video shared by the DeSantis campaign is homophobic, says a conservative LGBT group | Federal News Network
[23:23]	TR News	DeSantis Uses L.G.B.T.Q Issues to Attack Trump in Twitter Video https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/01/us/politics/desantis-video-lgbtq-trump.html
[23:23]	TR Bot	 DeSantis Uses L.G.B.T.Q Issues to Attack Trump in Twitter Video - The New York Times
[23:23]	DaemonFC	Discover shifted from 5% at restaurants and Paypal to 5% at gas stations and "mobile wallets" which is defined as tap to pay using your phone and the Discover card after activating the 5% quarter on their Web site through GPay, Apple Pay, or Samsung Pay.
[23:23]	DaemonFC	So you can keep getting 5% back at restaurants by paying with one of those.
[23:23]	TR News	Twitter says users must be verified to access TweetDeck https://michaelwest.com.au/twitter-says-users-must-be-verified-to-access-tweetdeck/ | Source: Michael West Media
[23:23]	TR Bot	 Twitter says users must be verified to access TweetDeck - Michael West
[23:24]	DaemonFC	It also basically means 5% at supermarkets because you can tap to pay at most of those. Except Walmart, which put NFC blockers on their terminals.
[23:24]	DaemonFC	But it works at Aldi, Lewis, and Jewel.
[23:25]	TR News	Flowers, Birds, and Trees 2023-07-04 (Fairbanks, AK, USA) gemini://gem.librehacker.com/gemlog/starlog/20230704-0.gmi
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[23:28]	DaemonFC	I expect some rather large electric bills this summer.
[23:28]	DaemonFC	It's shaping up to be a scorcher although it started pretty late.
[23:28]	schestowitz[TR]	not here...
[23:28]	schestowitz[TR]	warm, but no fans
[23:28]	schestowitz[TR]	got some EPO material
[23:28]	schestowitz[TR]	will work on that now
[23:28]	DaemonFC	Last year was like this too. It gets so hot out there your car can barely air condition the cabin until you turn the recirculate on.
[23:29]	schestowitz[TR]	will save some aside for later this week
[23:29]	DaemonFC	Eventually it blows the cold air over the compressor and through the cabin so many times that it gets really cold.
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[23:30]	DaemonFC	Fans are okay until it gets over about 80 degrees in the room.
[23:30]	DaemonFC	Although air conditioning is a must while I sleep.
[23:31]	DaemonFC	The ideal sleeping temperature is 64 degrees.
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[23:32]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: Mandy always yells at me for turning the air conditioner real low while we're in a hotel. I tell him it's my vacation and I will be comfortable and he should have brought his bathrobe. (No relation to Mr. GULAG's Eric Raymond in a bathrobe story.)
[23:32]	DaemonFC	But then he opens the window on me last November while we were visiting mom and I was coming down with COVID while it's snowing outside.
[23:33]	DaemonFC	And I woke up with the worst sore throat I've ever had in my life.
[23:33]	DaemonFC	I lost the ability to speak, at all, until I went to the Starbucks next door out of desperation for something hot to drink.
[23:33]	DaemonFC	(The only time I've been to Starbucks in the past 8 years, btw.)
[23:33]	schestowitz[TR]	anywa, back to tech now
[23:34]	schestowitz[TR]	i don't use "smart" phones so no "apps" or Gulag Pay
[23:34]	schestowitz[TR]	and what are the benefits really?
[23:34]	schestowitz[TR]	another way to have money stolen
[23:34]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: Yeah, it's like a back door to get 5% from Discover on wherever you can use it.
[23:34]	DaemonFC	For this quarter anyway.
[23:34]	DaemonFC	Then I'll stop using it.
[23:35]	DaemonFC	The reason I had Best Buy pry out my old malfunctioning car stereo last year even though it kind of worked was because Discover had an offer where if you spent a certain amount before Christmas they'd give you a $60 bonus as a statement credit.
[23:35]	DaemonFC	So Discover covered a lot of that car stereo.
[23:36]	schestowitz[TR]	sounds useless.
[23:36]	schestowitz[TR]	they won't give you 5% off food bills
[23:36]	schestowitz[TR]	some useless things
[23:38]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: Well, with the Google Pay thing that basically means 5% on restaurants for two quarters and 5% on Grocery Stores for two quarters.
[23:38]	DaemonFC	Instead of just one.
[23:39]	DaemonFC	But since gas and Google Pay are on the same quarter, you can only do gas for one quarter at 5%.
[23:39]	DaemonFC	It says in the fine print that paying for gas with Google Pay does NOT qualify for another 5%. You will get 5% either way you pay for it.
[23:40]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: I always use my PNC Cash Rewards (4%) for gas for 9 months and my Discover It (5%) for 3 months when it's a gas quarter.
[23:40]	DaemonFC	But the Discover quarter usually happens during the summer driving season.
[23:41]	DaemonFC	You can stack these card rewards either through Upside rebates or gas station discounts, or both.
[23:41]	DaemonFC	For example, Shell gives me 3 cents a gallon discount at the pump. Then I pay with my credit card. So right now I'd use Discover and get 5%. Then I'd submit it to Upside and get between 11-14 cents a gallon (usually) 
[23:43]	DaemonFC	So if I pull up and the price is $4.10 a gallon that works out to $4.07 - $0.20 (Discover points) - 12 cents or so from Upside (varies) = $3.75 a gallon.
[23:43]	DaemonFC	While everyone who walks in paying cash pays $4.10.
[23:44]	DaemonFC	My car has a 17 gallon tank. So paying cash and not using a rebate app would cost me another $5.95 per tank.
[23:45]	DaemonFC	If you multiply the cost of using cash over an entire year, I would pay another $185 or so over the course of the year for gas.
[23:45]	DaemonFC	Which is $185 we have to earn or cut someplace else.
[23:45]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: So you can see what an incentive rewards programs provide.
[23:46]	DaemonFC	We can't spend like the Democrats in Congress do or we'd blow through an entire year's worth of money in just a few months.
[23:47]	DaemonFC	As nice as it would be to just get China on the phone and ask for more money that our great-great-great grandchildren will have to pay back so the federal government can maintain 80,000 empty buildings.....
[23:47]	DaemonFC	That's just not how a household budget works.
[23:47]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: It remains to be seen what Biden's plans for "reforming" the REPAYE system will do.
[23:48]	DaemonFC	He's trying to formulate it in a way that the courts can't touch, but he's now turned it into an open ended entitlement program that any future president will suffer greatly for if they walk it back.
[23:49]	DaemonFC	And it has to be paid for by people who were never allowed to go to college due to affirmative action and being told that we would live in poverty to pay it back if we did go. So we didn't and now we suffer anyway.
[23:49]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: Stallman summarized the student loan situation pretty well.
[23:50]	DaemonFC	The odds of getting a good enough job to be worth the debt really suck.
[23:51]	DaemonFC	So unless most people plan on being a doctor or something, they should either just go to work and plan to live in poverty, but at least without another bill coming in the mail (that you can't file bankruptcy on) or attend some sort of vocational training where you can be in and out fast enough to avoid racking up considerable debt, and off to a better paying job.
[23:51]	DaemonFC	It's a shit sandwich whether you go to college or not, especially thanks to the Democrats giving us a triple helping of fucked up student loan crisis.
[23:52]	DaemonFC	And now they say they'll fix everything after years and years of planting all of these fucking liberals in the colleges that grant themselves exorbitant salaries and tenure.
[23:52]	DaemonFC	Which is what made it expensive in the first place.
[23:54]	schestowitz[TR]	<DaemonFC> schestowitz[TR]: Stallman summarized the student loan situation pretty well.
[23:54]	schestowitz[TR]	when? 90s?
[23:54]	schestowitz[TR]	remember in the 90s the sky was the limit.
[23:54]	schestowitz[TR]	40 hours a week
[23:54]	DaemonFC	Several years ago on his blog.
[23:54]	schestowitz[TR]	ok wage
[23:54]	schestowitz[TR]	home not so expensive.,
[23:55]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: The buffet restaurants in the 90s are my go-to explanation for the decade in general.
[23:55]	schestowitz[TR]	in the 90s he also remarked on car ownership
[23:55]	DaemonFC	Go there. Pay $6-7 a person, includes drink.
[23:55]	DaemonFC	Pile it as high as you like.
[23:55]	DaemonFC	GREAT quality.
[23:55]	schestowitz[TR]	"wow! a drink TOO!"
[23:55]	DaemonFC	Nobody there in the pajamas throwing food at each other on Christmas.
[23:56]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: The buffets that survive into the 2020s are a good analogy for how the US is in the 2020s.
[23:56]	DaemonFC	Go there. Pay $17 per person. Pay another $4 if you want a drink.
[23:57]	DaemonFC	Ghetto people throwing food at each other. Everyone looks like a slob.
[23:57]	DaemonFC	When you get up to the buffet, the food is cold. It's disgusting. It's barely recognizable it's been sitting there so long.
[23:57]	DaemonFC	Have as much as you want.
[23:58]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: I miss the food we had back then. I don't know how people are getting so fat eating the stuff they have now.
[23:58]	DaemonFC	At least back then it was so good you wanted a second helping even if it wasn't a great idea.
[23:58]	DaemonFC	:)
[23:59]	DaemonFC	You really had to try to find a bad restaurant back then.
[23:59]	DaemonFC	It was like when he goes to Judgment City in Defending Your Life.