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[00:01]	ulf	no clue who activelow or britney are
[00:02]	DaemonFC	<phanes> when i have a layover in chicago i don't even leave the terminal
[00:02]	ulf	there simply isn't anything "good" or "positive" remaining about what's advertised as "free" by GNU/FSF/RMS
[00:02]	DaemonFC	That's the safest part of the city.
[00:02]	DaemonFC	It's behind the TSA checkpoint and there's cops everywhere.
[00:03]	DaemonFC	With machine guns.
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[00:03]	DaemonFC	There are people who have lived in O'Hare for months without being caught.
[00:03]	DaemonFC	It's such a big airport that nobody noticed them for a while.
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[00:06]	ulf	sabotage, is a severe criminal act, and this is how i qualify much of what's advertised as "free"
[00:06]	XRevan86	ulf: Are ye kidding me, activelow?
[00:06]	XRevan86	ulf: Don't even pretend.
[00:06]	ulf	the fact, it's highly intelligent persons developers involved with sabotage, to waste other intelligent persons time
[00:07]	ulf	globally
[00:07]	ulf	this is what they do
[00:07]	ulf	in USA, they hack and slay each other with anti-competitive malware, which sufficed to put all of them into jail
[00:08]	ulf	it's globalized now
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[00:08]	ulf	to waste even more development man power, time and resources
[00:09]		*phanes ordered some 99% isopropyl alcohol and wonders if there's anything cool you can do with it
[00:09]	XRevan86	ulf: I have a simple test for you: can ye tell me the etymology of the word "Titan".
[00:10]	ulf	XRevan86: it the greek gods which died, and their cultural heritage drowned in atlantis
[00:11]	XRevan86	ulf: No, *etymology*.
[00:11]	ulf	their language and knowledge disappaered forever, and the olymp conquered by a "new generation"
[00:11]	XRevan86	What the origins of the word are.
[00:11]	ulf	no idea, Titan to is a chemical element
[00:12]	XRevan86	What's your best guess?
[00:12]	phanes	Titan:  Tite, from Tit.  As in big.
[00:13]	XRevan86	phanes: No tips
[00:14]	phanes	XRevan86, only tips.  
[00:15]	TR News	Peppermint OS Now Offers Devuan-Based ISOs for Software Freedom Lovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167975
[00:15]	TR Bot	 Peppermint OS Now Offers Devuan-Based ISOs for Software Freedom Lovers | Tux Machines
[00:17]	TR News	LibreOffice is a flagship project for social service at UACM - The Document Foundation Blog https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2022/08/03/libreoffice-is-a-flagship-project-for-social-service-at-uacm/ Source: Documentfoundation | OpenDocument | freesw | libreoffice | odf |
[00:17]	TR Bot	 LibreOffice is a flagship project for social service at UACM - The Document Foundation Blog
[00:18]	XRevan86	phanes: Anyway, ulf didn't take a bait this cheap.
[00:18]	TR News	Locking Engineering Hierarchy https://blog.ffwll.ch/2022/08/locking-hierarchy.html
[00:18]	TR Bot	 Locking Engineering Hierarchy
[00:18]	phanes	XRevan86, i was hoping
[00:18]	phanes	XRevan86, worst case scenario he believes it and repeats it to someone else who gets it
[00:19]	XRevan86	The activelow answer is that Titan comes from the English word tit, not any tit but the tit of the primeval cow Auumbla.
[00:19]	XRevan86	phanes: Yours is actually milder.
[00:19]	TR News	"Members of openSUSEs Adaptable Linux Platform (ALP) community workgroup had a successful install workshop on August 2 and are transitioning to two install feedback sessions." https://news.opensuse.org/2022/08/03/wg-shifts-to-feedback/
[00:19]	TR Bot	 Work Group Shifts to Feedback Session - openSUSE News
[00:20]	XRevan86	phanes: Ye missed the moment in this channel when activelow was telling us all these ideas.
[00:21]	TR News	Migration to Containers, Microservices and Kubernetes https://containerjournal.com/topics/migration-to-containers-microservices-kubernetes-adrian-ionel-mirantis/
[00:21]	TR Bot	 Migration to Containers, Microservices and Kubernetes - Container Journal
[00:21]	XRevan86	This "GNU is evil" stuff is lame in comparison. But in brand.
[00:21]	ulf	GNU/FSF aren't any better than micros~1
[00:22]	ulf	they're only a marketing facade, of the Pentagon, to advertsize and push spyware made in usa
[00:22]	XRevan86	And the unhealthy fixation on TinyCC specifically is a dead giveaway, because activelow gives it merit because someone managed to build a stripped down old Linux version with it.
[00:23]	XRevan86	And by his logic it means it's a better suited compiler for the job of building (any) Linux than anything else out there.
[00:23]	phanes	thats some next level dumb shit to think
[00:23]	phanes	like if this were a dumb shit contest i'd be hard pressed to find a contender
[00:23]	XRevan86	(GCC/Clang excluded)
[00:23]	ulf	any sane standards compliant compiler is better than what GNU/FSF with their GNU toolchain do, or mapple LLVM
[00:26]	TR News	Tristan Van Berkom: BuildStream 2 news https://blogs.gnome.org/tvb/2022/08/03/buildstream-2-news/
[00:26]	TR Bot	 BuildStream 2 news Tristan's World
[00:27]	XRevan86	ulf: What about cproc then?
[00:29]	XRevan86	ulf: Give me an activelow answer, I know ye want to.
[00:33]	TR News	From MIT To Linux: How Xorg Died Many Deaths - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=7fRoiF6IDxs | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/7fRoiF6IDxs
[00:33]	TR Bot	 From MIT To Linux: How Xorg Died Many Deaths - Invidious
[00:34]	britney	i know ulf is earthling but i don't know if earthling was activelow
[00:34]	ulf	if cproc was merley ANSI C90/99/11 compliant for any desired architecture, then this certainly isn't "good enough" for GNU/FSF/BSD and whoever else
[00:34]	phanes	yeah this is why they need to stop giving out so many comp sci degrees, these no child left behind generation kids buy right into the wayland marketing, xorg is still in heavy use
[00:34]	TR News	Linux Mint 21 Cinnamon Run Through - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=QShfkB5vyoM | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/QShfkB5vyoM
[00:34]	TR Bot	 Linux Mint 21 Cinnamon Run Through - Invidious
[00:34]	ulf	XRevan86: it is the system-integration into build-system which was sabotaged by GNU/FSF
[00:34]	TR News	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167976
[00:34]	TR Bot	 today's howtos | Tux Machines
[00:34]	ulf	and other dirty tricks of them
[00:34]	XRevan86	ulf: https://git.sr.ht/~mcf/cproc/tree/master/README.md "cproc is a C11 compiler" "Some C23 features and GNU C extensions are also implemented."
[00:34]	TR Bot	 ~mcf/cproc: README.md - sourcehut git
[00:34]	XRevan86	Off the rip this gives more than TinyCC ever could.
[00:35]	TR News	Sugar-Free Hammer https://twit.tv/shows/floss-weekly/episodes/692 Source: twittv
[00:35]	TR Bot	 Sugar-Free Hammer
[00:35]	ulf	XRevan86: if you ever manage to fully compile any GNU/Linux distribution of your choice with an ANSI C compliant compiler/toolchain
[00:35]	ulf	tell me
[00:36]	ulf	i bet there will be stories made up, in 2000 years, XRevan86 aka. Heracles had beaten the devil out of Athens
[00:36]	TR News	SCaLE 19x - Canonical, AREDN, and System76 - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=fLEhePcd6DI | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/fLEhePcd6DI
[00:36]	TR Bot	 SCaLE 19x - Canonical, AREDN, and System76 - Invidious
[00:36]	ulf	won't happen, GNU/FSF/BSD, they're corrupted beyond imagination
[00:37]	ulf	and they're merely the marketing facade of the Pentagon anyway
[00:37]	britney	Pentagon alert
[00:37]	XRevan86	ulf: And TinyCC is what?
[00:37]	ulf	XRevan86: i will eat a hamster alive if you show me any GNU/Linux which fully compiles with cproc
[00:38]	ulf	XRevan86: TinyCC isn't pentagon endorsed malware
[00:38]	TR News	"TechRepublic Academy" = spam account
[00:38]	ulf	hence you'll have little luck with this one too
[00:38]	XRevan86	ulf: I'm not claiming cproc can do that, all I'm saying is that it has better odds than the dead compiler TinyCC.
[00:39]	XRevan86	It's more of an anti-TinyCC argument than a pro-something argument.
[00:39]	ulf	tinycc isn't dead, and i am not limiting this approach to it either
[00:39]	ulf	it's "only" one first minimum acceptance testing, to see how far i'll get with "free software" promoted by GNU/FSF, together with an ANSI C capable compiler
[00:40]	XRevan86	So when is TinyCC getting C11 support?
[00:40]	TR News	T.J. Maxx in trouble for knowingly selling recalled products that can cause fires and kill babies. This is the natural result of Republican political corruption. - BaronHKs Rants https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/08/03/t-j-maxx-in-trouble-for-knowingly-selling-recalled-products-that-can-cause-fires-and-kill-babies-this-is-the-
[00:40]	TR Bot	 T.J. Maxx in trouble for knowingly selling recalled products that can cause fires and kill babies. This is the natural result of Republican political corruption. BaronHK's Rants
[00:40]	ulf	XRevan86: tinycc already got some C11 features on board, already had seen it fail with dev-libs/libffi btw.
[00:40]	ulf	which is remarkable, reason being, libffi is required by micros~1 python interpreter, and was poisoned with C11 it seems
[00:41]	ulf	no surprise i would say
[00:42]	XRevan86	"Some" is better than expected.
[00:42]	XRevan86	Of course that's compared to a compiler that has *some* C23 features on board.
[00:43]	ulf	XRevan86: you won't convince me with bold claims made. no talking, simply show me at least one GNU/Linux which can be fully compiled with cproc
[00:43]	ulf	or, at bare minimum, for example, compile dev-libs/libffi with cproc, and see for yourself
[00:43]	ulf	besides, you're missing another detail, which is GNU binutils, which tinycc can partially replace, because tcc to got a linker and assembler
[00:44]	XRevan86	It's like ye want to lift a house with a stool. I point you in the direction of a hydraulic jack and tell you it still won't lift a house.
[00:44]	ulf	apropos, some ASM inside musl-libc didn't pass with the arm-assembler tcc got... "surprise"
[00:44]	ulf	XRevan86: does cproc ship with a linker and assmbler for aarch32?
[00:45]	ulf	and even if, the system-integration into the build-system is what's sabotaged too by them, GNU/FSF
[00:46]	ulf	the problem isn't tinycc or cproc, the problem are GNU/FSF and their toolchain and buildsystem with anti-competitive sabotage involved
[00:46]	XRevan86	phanes: Of course activelow also wanted to build BaphometOS on ARM. Just a funny coincidence.
[00:46]	ulf	if you got a better explanation, too i'll eat a hamster alive then
[00:47]	TR News	Videos: Xorg, Linux Mint 21 Cinnamon, FLOSS Weekly, and SCaLE 19x Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167977
[00:47]	TR Bot	 Videos: Xorg, Linux Mint 21 Cinnamon, FLOSS Weekly, and SCaLE 19x | Tux Machines
[00:47]	XRevan86	ulf: I think ye over-estimate human ability to accomodate every whim, and your whims are very specific.
[00:48]	britney	ulf, you probably eat hamsters all the time
[00:48]	XRevan86	But sure, let's think that every design decision that doesn't go with what ye are trying to do is an act of sabotage.
[00:49]	TR News	9 New Linux Distros to Try Out in 2022 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167978
[00:49]	TR Bot	 9 New Linux Distros to Try Out in 2022 | Tux Machines
[00:49]	ulf	it's not any arbitrary design decisions, tinycc and cproc are ANSI C capable compilers
[00:49]	psydruid	not just any ARM, but aarch32 that will not even be featured on most of the latest ARM cores
[00:49]	XRevan86	And as we know every programmer out there is obsessed with strict standard compliance.
[00:50]	XRevan86	And will even allocate extra hours just to fit into the standard.
[00:50]	TR News	GlobalFoundries joins Googles open source silicon initiative | Google Open Source Blog https://opensource.googleblog.com/2022/08/GlobalFoundries-joins-Googles-open-source-silicon-initiative.html
[00:50]	TR Bot	 GlobalFoundries joins Googles open source silicon initiative | Google Open Source Blog
[00:50]	ulf	sure, GNU/FSF are more concerned with sabotage against standards compliance, just as micros~1 does or anyone else
[00:50]	XRevan86	or days even
[00:51]	TR News	[GIT PULL] tracing: Updates for 5.20 / 6.0 - Steven Rostedt https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220803112014.7ffed04e@gandalf.local.home/ Source: kernel | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220803112014.7ffed04e@gandalf.local.home/
[00:51]	TR Bot	 [GIT PULL] tracing: Updates for 5.20 / 6.0 - Steven Rostedt
[00:51]	psydruid	only Cortex-A510 still includes support for it, other than Cortex-A710 and older cores
[00:51]	ulf	GNOME... motif widgets are standardized by IEEE even... see how much they apreciated this type of "free software"
[00:51]	XRevan86	ulf: Or they like writing code with the extensions they developed specifically for their own convinience?
[00:51]	ulf	because with motif and an IEEE standard applied, GNU/FSF couldn't have sabotaged anyone as they wished to
[00:51]	TR News	[PATCH] drm/nouveau: recognise GA103 - Karol Herbst https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220803142745.2679510-1-kherbst@redhat.com/ Source: Red Hat | ICBM | Kernel | Linux | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220803142745.2679510-1-kherbst@redhat.com/
[00:51]	TR Bot	 [PATCH] drm/nouveau: recognise GA103 - Karol Herbst
[00:52]	XRevan86	Software written with Motif is something I've always dreamt of.
[00:52]	XRevan86	I'm sure it'll work great with my HiDPI display.
[00:52]	ulf	the initial version of GIMP was implemented against motif
[00:53]	ulf	just another example, of the anti-competitive hack and slay
[00:53]	XRevan86	But of course HiDPI displays are an act of sabotage by the Big Monitor.
[00:53]	XRevan86	against Motif, GTK 2 and such.
[00:54]	psydruid	Monitor Lizard
[00:54]	XRevan86	psydruid: ARMv7 is getting dropped? Wow.
[00:54]	XRevan86	I guess I'm too used to the x86 way of doing things, i.e. indefinite support :)
[00:54]	ulf	apritzel already told me some ARMv9 will drop compatibility for aarch32
[00:55]	TR News	Simon Bisson, longtime Microsoft mole in the media, mentions "Linux" just to promote MICROSOFT again. Link omitted. Typical ZDNet. http://techrights.org/wiki/ZDNet#2022
[00:55]	TR Bot	 ZDNet - Techrights
[00:56]	psydruid	XRevan86, ARMv8 is a completely different ISA from ARMv7, that's probably why
[00:56]	psydruid	I don't know ARMv7 and earlier
[00:56]	TR News	Notice how most people who promote WSL are Microsofters, i.e. people who HATE GNU/Linux. Because WSL is an attack on GNU/Linux. They know it.
[00:57]	psydruid	x86 works differently, it has extensions on top of extensions
[00:57]	psydruid	but don't quote me on that, you probably know better
[00:58]	TR News	Proprietary https://duo.com/decipher/nvidia-fixes-high-severity-flaws-in-graphics-drivers-for-windows-linux
[00:58]	TR Bot	 NVIDIA Fixes High-Severity Flaws in Graphics Drivers For Windows, Linux | Decipher
[00:58]	TR News	"I want to install Linux openSUSE in a "multiboot" configuration. When I reboot my Mac Pro, and the "RefindPlus boot manager" main menu displays, I want Linux OpenSuse to be an option for one of the operating systems into which I can boot." https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/simpler-solution.2353588/
[00:58]	TR Bot	 Simpler Solution ... ? | MacRumors Forums
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● Aug 04
[01:00]	XRevan86	psydruid: I really don't.
[01:17]	TR News	Links 03/08/2022: Peppermint OS Release | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/08/03/peppermint-os-release-2/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/03/peppermint-os-release-2/
[01:17]	TR Bot	 Links 03/08/2022: Peppermint OS Release | Techrights
[01:17]	TR News	BuildStream 2 news Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167979
[01:17]	TR Bot	 BuildStream 2 news | Tux Machines
[01:18]	TR News	16 Best Open-source Free Ghost Blog Themes for 2022 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167980
[01:18]	TR Bot	 16 Best Open-source Free Ghost Blog Themes for 2022 | Tux Machines
[01:18]	TR News	LibreOffice in Universidad Autnoma de la Ciudad de Mxico (UACM) and GTK4 GtkScrollbars Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167981
[01:18]	TR Bot	 LibreOffice in Universidad Autnoma de la Ciudad de Mxico (UACM) and GTK4 GtkScrollbars | Tux Machines
[01:18]	TR News	SUSE and Red Hat: Adaptable Linux Platform (ALP) and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167982
[01:18]	TR Bot	 SUSE and Red Hat: Adaptable Linux Platform (ALP) and More | Tux Machines
[01:18]	TR News	Proprietary Sofrware, Hardware, and Openwashing Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167983
[01:18]	TR Bot	 Proprietary Sofrware, Hardware, and Openwashing | Tux Machines
[01:18]	TR News	Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167984
[01:18]	TR Bot	 today's leftovers | Tux Machines
[01:22]	schestowitz[TR2]	later today we'll hopefully have tuxmachines ready over gemini
[01:23]	schestowitz[TR2]	exciting times ahead
[01:23]	schestowitz[TR2]	but not many articles in techrights because of work on the broken system (pi microosd card)
[01:30]	TR News	Mesa 22.2-rc1 Released https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/tags/mesa-22.2.0-rc1
[01:30]	TR Bot	 mesa-22.2.0-rc1 Tags Mesa / mesa GitLab
[01:32]	TR News	For the sixth time in 2 days, 'Linux Today' posts spammy "plugs" as "news". http://techrights.org/2022/08/01/linux-today-zdnet/
[01:32]	TR Bot	 Weird Editorial Choices in Linux Today These Past Few Hours (Updatedx4) | Techrights
[01:36]	TR News	Using "CLOWN" hype to stir up enthusiasm about surveillance inside one's home https://www.datanami.com/2022/07/28/how-the-migration-from-cloud-to-edge-powers-tomorrows-smart-homes/
[01:36]	TR Bot	 How The Migration From Cloud to Edge Powers Tomorrows Smart Homes
[01:37]	TR News	Both types of vendor lock-in are very bad https://matt-rickard.com/dont-be-scared-of-vendor-lock-in/
[01:37]	TR Bot	( status 308 @ https://matt-rickard.com/dont-be-scared-of-vendor-lock-in/ )
[01:37]	TR News	LOL, "Blockchain Security Engineer" https://blog.trailofbits.com/2022/07/28/shedding-smart-contract-storage-with-slither/
[01:37]	TR Bot	 Shedding smart contract storage with Slither | Trail of Bits Blog
[01:52]	TR News	Techrights articles in Gemini are now fully restored (missed 4-5 months' worth until tonight)
[01:54]	TR News	"Theyll all be freely avaliable"... it was before, too https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/28/23280743/deepmind-alphafold-protein-database-alphabet
[01:54]	TR Bot	 DeepMind found the structure of nearly every protein known to science - The Verge
[01:55]	TR News	Sounds like BS TBH https://www.idmt.fraunhofer.de/en/Press_and_Media/press_releases/2022/sound-personalisation-in-vehicles.html
[01:55]	TR Bot	 Intuitive sound personalisation in vehicles - Fraunhofer IDMT
[01:56]	TR News	WWW has become hostile to blind people. They ought to turn to Gemini. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/13/technology/ai-web-accessibility.html
[01:56]	TR Bot	 For Blind Internet Users, the Fix Can Be Worse Than the Flaws - The New York Times
[01:57]	TR News	"If you thought the Attorney-General dropping charges against Bernard Collaery was a sign that secret trials in Australian courts and tribunals were a thing of the past, you would be wrong." https://michaelwest.com.au/rex-patrick-on-timor-spying-albanese-governments-first-secret-trial-after-only-67-days/
[01:57]	TR Bot	 Rex Patrick on Timor spying: Albanese governments first secret trial after only 67 days - Michael West
[01:58]	TR News	"Fred Brooks observed in Mythical Man Month that adding more programmers to a project often slowed it down." https://matt-rickard.com/brooks-in-reverse
[01:58]	TR Bot	 Brooks in Reverse
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● Aug 04
[02:02]	TR News	Sam Varghese no longer covers GNU/Linux or rebuts Microsoft lies. It's shallow fluff such as https://itwire.com/mobility/oppo-releases-two-models-of-a77-5g-device-in-australia.html
[02:02]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://itwire.com/mobility/oppo-releases-two-models-of-a77-5g-device-in-australia.html )
[02:04]	TR News	A good sign: "Valve Expanding Steam Deck Availability To Asian Markets" (fewer people will say, "can't move to Linux, no games")
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[02:04]	TR News	Managing time with Python https://unixcop.com/managing-time-with-python/
[02:04]	TR Bot	 Managing time with Python - Unix / Linux the admins Tutorials
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[02:07]	TR News	"Martech"... another new, creeping buzzword. A lot of the time those allude to software patents and spying https://multichannelmerchant.com/marketing/martech-and-digital-experience-management-the-new-frontier/
[02:07]	TR Bot	 Martech and Digital Experience Management: The New Frontier - Multichannel Merchant
[02:21]	TR News	This won't last 20 years. This won't be possible/cheap to repair. How is this "SMART"? https://staceyoniot.com/how-to-make-your-backyard-pond-smart/
[02:21]	TR Bot	 How to make your backyard pond smart - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysis
[02:21]	TR News	"Smart" typically means very expensive, spying, or both
[02:23]	TR News	"Jest is the most used JavaScript testing framework. In this post, you will learn how to use Jest toHaveBeenCalledWith for testing various scenarios like a partial array, partial object, multiple calls, etc. Lets get started!" https://geshan.com.np/blog/2022/07/jest-tohavebeencalledwith/
[02:23]	TR Bot	 Using Jest toHaveBeenCalledWith for testing primitive data types and partial objects
[02:26]	TR News	There's a false (fabricated) rumour that Daniel Pocock was having a taboo relationship. This sort of libel, spread based no factual basis whatsoever, is unfair... even if you don't like the person or his style or what he writes. Curiously, the source of this libels seems to be Gulag. They did the same to me: http://techrights.org/2021/03/05/google-funded-trolls/
[02:26]	TR Bot	 Professional Troll Matthew Garrett Spreads Libel, Defamation and Slander About the Free Software Community to Entertain Microsoft and Friends | Techrights
[02:28]	TR News	You definitely never want to catch COVID-19. EVER! https://www.ninds.nih.gov/news-events/press-releases/small-nih-study-reveals-how-immune-response-triggered-covid-19-may-damage-brain
[02:28]	TR Bot	 Small NIH study reveals how immune response triggered by COVID-19 may damage the brain | National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke
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[02:30]	TR News	Surveillance applications? https://news.cornell.edu/stories/2022/07/earable-uses-sonar-reconstruct-facial-expressions
[02:30]	TR Bot	 Earable uses sonar to reconstruct facial expressions | Cornell Chronicle
[02:31]	TR News	Bootstrapping KaplanMeier Survival Curves https://two-wrongs.com/bootstrapping-kaplan-meier-confidence-intervals
[02:31]	TR Bot	 Bootstrapping KaplanMeier Survival Curves
[02:32]	TR News	"Aside from how dumb is such argument in any sense, the idea of justifying anything morally by saying someone 300 years ago would approve of it is pathetic." https://alirezahayati.com/2022/07/30/founding-fathers-would-approve/
[02:32]	TR Bot	 Founding fathers would approve! - Ali Reza Hayati
[02:37]	TR News	Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-030822.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-030822.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-030822.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-030822.txt
[02:37]	TR Bot	 IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, August 03, 2022
[02:38]	TR News	Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-030822.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-030822.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techrights-030822.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techrights-030822.txt
[02:38]	TR Bot	 IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, August 03, 2022
[02:39]	TR News	"For some reason, rather than putting on a podcast, I turned on my transistor radio, switched through the shortwave bands, and actually managed to tune in Radio Havana." gopher://zaibatsu.circumlunar.space:70/0/~visiblink/phlog/20220803
[02:39]	TR News	Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-030822.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-030822.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-030822.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-030822.txt
[02:39]	TR Bot	 IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, August 03, 2022
[02:39]	TR News	Corporations and Feigning Concern gemini://jsreed5.org/log/2022/202208/20220803-corporations-and-feigning-concern.gmi
[02:40]	TR News	Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-030822.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-030822.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techbytes-030822.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techbytes-030822.txt
[02:40]	TR Bot	 IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, August 03, 2022
[02:40]	TR News	"Bots are absolutely crippling the Internet ecosystem." gemini://marginalia.nu/log/61-botspam-apocalypse.gmi
[02:41]	TR News	[cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D663.jpg
[02:41]	TR News	Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-08-03.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-08-03.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)
[02:41]	TR News	When Media Was Social gemini://moddedbear.xyz/logs/2022-08-03-when-media-was-social.gmi
[02:42]	TR News	Microsoft's Github itself is a lot worse than the allegation gemini://remyabel.srht.site/posts/2022-08-03.gmi
[02:43]	TR News	Misadventures with bash shell gemini://thelambdalab.xyz/phlog/2022-08-03-Re:-misadventures-with-bash-shell.txt
[02:44]	TR News	"Currently I have my gemini subscriptions imported into Offpunk so whenever I sync I get all the new gemini posts I'm following downloaded locally and added to my "tour"." gemini://gemini.cyberbot.space/gemlog/2022-08-03-gemfeedsoffline.gmi
[02:44]	TR News	[cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D312.jpg
[02:45]	TR News	Creating a NixOS live USB for a full featured APU router gemini://perso.pw/blog/articles/nixos-with-live-usb-router.gmi
[02:45]	TR News	"The only problem that I have with that is that nobody sticks strictly to POSIX. Sure, they might keep the shell syntax POSIX compatible, but there are assumptions made about the base utilities present on your system." gemini://gemini.hitchhiker-linux.org/gemlog/re_misadventures_with_bash_shell.gmi
[02:47]	TR News	"Sometimes I feel that most stuff simply is boring. I am not diagnosed with anything, but I find most people boring, most hobbies boring, most work boring" gemini://alexschroeder.ch/page/2022-08-02%20Attention
[02:47]	TR News	[cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D311.jpg
[02:48]	TR News	"I was reading a blog post on David Graeber's book Debt, by Marcia B. It's a good post, and an excellent reminder that I should finish reading the damn book, and also read the new one that got published posthumously." gemini://alexschroeder.ch/page/2022-08-02%20Money
[02:49]	TR News	"I feel that's very similar to what Rob Conley has been saying all along about desktop publishing and liberal licenses allow the publication of material." gemini://alexschroeder.ch/page/2022-08-02%20Tom%20Van%20Winkles%20Blog
[02:49]	TR News	Why I Use Bash gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-08-02-why-i-use-bash.gmi
[02:49]	TR News	[cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D662.jpg
[02:50]	TR News	"I also have started looking into RSS and subscribing to some favorite web-blogs. I am definitely interested in expanding more as time comes, but I cannot really find interesting reads out there." gemini://blog.schmidhuberj.de/2022/08/02/i-am-back/
[02:52]	TR News	RE: Misadventures with bash shell gemini://siiky.srht.site/programming/shell.gmi "As a sort of conclusion: for some reason bash is one of the most, if not the most, popular interactive shell. Probably because it's the default in many Linux distros"
[02:53]	MinceR	04 015311 < XRevan86> But of course HiDPI displays are an act of sabotage by the Big Monitor.
[02:53]	MinceR	how big is it? 32"?
[02:54]	TR News	ELNYUVO Wordo: HYPHA gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2022-08-03.gmi
[02:54]	TR News	"So there are unfinished (unstarted, even) posts that, were I to finish and publish, would get the date I first created them on the index." gemini://siiky.srht.site/meta/dates.gmi
[02:56]	TR News	1971 - Never a Dull Moment gemini://luke.flounder.online/gemlog/2022-08-03.gmi
[02:56]	TR News	"The opening is dark, but its important to contextualize the situation in which we find ourselves. Climate change has been badly mishandled, fascism is on the rise, and the ultra-rich are becoming more powerful." gemini://degrowther.smol.pub/20220803_freedom_ownership_infrastructure_hope
[02:57]	TR News	"Very often this successfully plants the seed for a thriving interest in whatever the thing is, in that person. If it's something with utility value, I'll often rely on their relative expertise in the future." gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1090
[02:59]	TR News	"Betamax was superior, Minidisc bested CDs, Idiocracy is a documentary. The fact that any good idea survives is miraculous." gemini://ed.flounder.online/gemlog/2022-08-02.gmi
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[03:03]	TR News	"I could feel the worry reading this. Maintainers of all stripes have to put up with angry people who demand they fix and update software, often with no financial or development assistance." https://rubenerd.com/macvim-thanks/
[03:03]	TR Bot	Thanking Yee Cheng Chin for MacVim
[03:05]	TR News	"Europe has extreme weather, but the Greens approach is radical. The connection is well within grasp, but his ideology prevents him from doing so. Whether he sees it or not, this is exactly the same problem faced by his former colleagues; the ones he now scolds for costing him his seat." https://rubenerd.com/trent-zimmerman-writes-why-the-coalition-lost/
[03:06]	TR Bot	Trent Zimmerman writes why the Coalition lost
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[03:08]	TR News	"Last week I participated in the annual RStudio conference which took place in Washington DC." https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/07/some-takeaways-from-rstudioconf-2022/
[03:08]	TR Bot	takeaways from rstudio::conf 2022 | R-bloggers
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[03:12]	TR News	Steam Deck: You Can Finally Order it in Japan. Through Komodo, not Steam. With Higher Pricing. And No Availability Window. - Boiling Steam https://boilingsteam.com/steam-deck-you-can-finally-order-it-in-japan-through-komodo-not-steam-with-higher-pricing-and-no-availability-window/
[03:12]	TR Bot	 Steam Deck: You Can Finally Order it in Japan. Through Komodo, not Steam. With Higher Pricing. And No Availability Window. - Boiling Steam
[03:13]	TR News	Tablet, chromebook shipments down globally for fourth quarter running https://itwire.com/hardware-and-storage/tablet,-chromebook-shipments-down-globally-for-fourth-quarter-running.html good for the planet
[03:13]	TR Bot	- Tablet, chromebook shipments down globally for fourth quarter running
[03:15]	TR News	Not a Yoking Matter - In Pursuit of Laziness https://manishearth.github.io/blog/2022/08/03/zero-copy-1-not-a-yoking-matter/ http://manishearth.github.io/blog/2022/08/03/zero-copy-2-zero-copy-all-the-things/ http://manishearth.github.io/blog/2022/08/03/zero-copy-3-so-zero-its-dot-dot-dot-negative/ Source: manishearth
[03:15]	TR Bot	 Not a Yoking Matter (Zero-Copy #1) - In Pursuit of Laziness
[03:15]	TR Bot	 Zero-Copy All the Things! (Zero-Copy #2) - In Pursuit of Laziness
[03:15]	TR Bot	 So Zero It's ... Negative? (Zero-Copy #3) - In Pursuit of Laziness
[03:16]	TR News	Links 03/08/2022: Peppermint OS Release | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/08/03/peppermint-os-release-2/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/03/peppermint-os-release-2/
[03:16]	TR Bot	 Links 03/08/2022: Peppermint OS Release | Techrights
[03:19]	phanes	wikipedia blowback should start
[03:19]	phanes	now
[03:20]	phanes	"completely unrelated" 
[03:20]	AdmFubar	https://hardware.slashdot.org/story/22/08/03/1932218/how-the-us-gave-away-a-breakthrough-battery-technology-to-china?utm_source=rss1.0mainlinkanon&utm_medium=feed
[03:20]	TR Bot	 How the US Gave Away a Breakthrough Battery Technology To China - Slashdot
[03:22]	schestowitz[TR2]	"gave away"
[03:22]	schestowitz[TR2]	the "IP" mindset
[03:22]	schestowitz[TR2]	US gave away oxygen to China
[03:22]	schestowitz[TR2]	https://blog.trailofbits.com/2022/07/28/shedding-smart-contract-storage-with-slither/
[03:22]	TR Bot	 Shedding smart contract storage with Slither | Trail of Bits Blog
[03:22]	schestowitz[TR2]	"smart"
[03:23]	phanes	https://youtu.be/pVY1-v97Mic
[03:23]	TR Bot	https://invidious.weblibre.org/watch?v=pVY1-v97Mic
[03:23]	TR Bot	invidious.weblibre.org | Evil Laugh - Invidious
[03:24]	schestowitz[TR2]	context?
[03:26]	phanes	https://youtu.be/y7kvGqiJC4g
[03:26]	TR Bot	https://inv.bp.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=y7kvGqiJC4g
[03:26]	TR Bot	timed out after 10001 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://inv.bp.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=y7kvGqiJC4g )
[03:29]	TR News	"Docker has transformed the way many people develop and deploy software. It wasn't the first implementation of containers on Linux, but Docker's ideas about how containers should be structured and managed were different from its predecessors" https://lwn.net/Articles/902049/
[03:29]	TR Bot	and the OCI container ecosystem [LWN.net]
[03:30]	phanes	docker is literally just an orchestration layer on top of lxc isn't it
[03:30]	phanes	its that thing that all the junior engineers pretend is an architectural panacea
[03:31]	schestowitz[TR2]	or revolution
[03:32]	TR News	RMS sdaid rust should be forked for this reason and be called something like "cRust" https://lwn.net/Articles/901816/
[03:32]	TR Bot	with the Rust trademark [LWN.net]
[03:32]	phanes	companies will eventually be worried about the money loss
[03:32]	phanes	alot of them will be fired eventually i think
[03:33]	phanes	and unfortunately when it stigmatizes they will have marked themselves by the opportunity cost of investing in a rarely appropriate model
[03:34]	schestowitz[TR2]	i don't follow
[03:34]	schestowitz[TR2]	<phanes> companies will eventually be worried about the money loss
[03:34]	schestowitz[TR2]	context?
[03:34]	phanes	its too early
[03:34]	schestowitz[TR2]	losses due to containerisation?
[03:35]	schestowitz[TR2]	right now there's massive graft
[03:35]	schestowitz[TR2]	like CHIPS
[03:35]	schestowitz[TR2]	press MAX in https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/government-debt#historical
[03:35]	TR Bot	 United States Government Debt - July 2022 Data - 1942-2021 Historical
[03:35]	schestowitz[TR2]	USSR redux
[03:35]	schestowitz[TR2]	it is screaming upwards
[03:35]	schestowitz[TR2]	hundreds of millions of Americans sinking into debt
[03:35]	schestowitz[TR2]	personal debt
[03:36]	schestowitz[TR2]	not just this national debt
[03:36]	schestowitz[TR2]	while few oligarchs open the cookie jar and empty it
[03:37]	schestowitz[TR2]	let me screenshot it
[03:37]	schestowitz[TR2]	JS = cannot link to things
[03:38]	schestowitz[TR2]	you need to click, not link
[03:38]	schestowitz[TR2]	https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/debt-us.png
[03:40]	TR News	You Know Your Economy Spins Out of Control When https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/08/04/us-debt/
[03:40]	TR Bot	Blog Archive You Know Your Economy Spins Out of Control When
[03:41]	phanes	yeah im watching it slowly happen and unsure of where to put my money since i know it'll be worthless in 2024
[03:41]	schestowitz[TR2]	not as steep https://tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/government-debt#historical
[03:41]	TR Bot	 United Kingdom Public Sector Net Debt Ex Banks - July 2022 Data - 1975-2021 Historical
[03:42]	schestowitz[TR2]	phanes: maybe assets that are materialk
[03:42]	schestowitz[TR2]	the problem is, their value is diminished fast
[03:42]	schestowitz[TR2]	and homes are a bubble
[03:42]	phanes	yeah i waited too long to go into real estate
[03:42]	schestowitz[TR2]	so you overpay
[03:42]	schestowitz[TR2]	too late now
[03:42]	schestowitz[TR2]	don't buy for 200,000 something that costs less than 50,000 to make
[03:43]	schestowitz[TR2]	the prices will get back to wqhere they used to be
[03:43]	schestowitz[TR2]	in the 2980s you could buy a home for many 10k
[03:43]	schestowitz[TR2]	*1980s
[03:43]	schestowitz[TR2]	it makes no sense that in a few decades the prices are like 100 times higher
[03:43]	phanes	well sure they will, but, no one will be buying and the banks may fail
[03:43]	phanes	i am thinking the japanese yen is safe
[03:44]	phanes	*safer
[03:44]	phanes	at least in terms of holding power
[03:44]	schestowitz[TR2]	nothing is "safe"
[03:44]	schestowitz[TR2]	"safe" is being able to do gainful work
[03:44]	schestowitz[TR2]	if you must
[03:46]	schestowitz[TR2]	least safe: skyrocketing living expenses
[03:46]	schestowitz[TR2]	kids, expensive home, mortgage...
[03:46]	TR News	Digital autonomy and the GNOME desktop Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167985
[03:46]	TR Bot	 Digital autonomy and the GNOME desktop | Tux Machines
[03:51]	phanes	maybe REITs on a DRIP
[03:51]	phanes	utilities ETFS
[03:52]	phanes	the problem with gold is you get screwed when you try to liquidate it again
[03:53]	AdmFubar	https://www.theregister.com/2022/08/04/gitlab_data_retention_policy/
[03:53]	TR Bot	 GitLab plans to delete dormant projects from free accounts The Register
[03:54]	phanes	yeah gitlab sucks even for self-hosted
[03:55]	AdmFubar	https://www.theregister.com/2022/08/04/cdt_school_surveillance/
[03:55]	TR Bot	 Groups ask US Education Dept to rein in student surveillance The Register
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[04:04]	TR News	July COVID-19 Hospitalisation Statistics Compared: 3,008 in 2020, 18,513 in 2021, 47,018 in 2022 (This Past Month 16 Times More Than First Year of Coronavirus Breakout) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/08/04/covid19-hospitalisation-statistics/
[04:04]	TR Bot	Blog Archive July COVID-19 Hospitalisation Statistics Compared: 3,008 in 2020, 18,513 in 2021, 47,018 in 2022 (This Past Month 16 Times More Than First Year of Coronavirus Breakout)
[04:04]	phanes	https://youtu.be/kh-f_bpTFaE
[04:04]	TR Bot	https://invidious.flokinet.to/watch?v=kh-f_bpTFaE
[04:04]	TR Bot	invidious.flokinet.to | The Stranger - Invidious
[04:05]	TR News	#Techrights Bulletin for Wednesday, August 03, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
[04:05]	TR Bot	 Bulletin Archives
[04:05]	TR News	#Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing
[04:05]	TR Bot	 Techrights Full IPFS Index
[04:26]	TR News	United Kingdom (England, Scotland, Wales, NI) COVID-19 Hospitalisation Rates Compared: July 2022 Eleven Times Worse Than July 2020 https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/08/04/indifference-to-covid/
[04:26]	TR Bot	Blog Archive United Kingdom (England, Scotland, Wales, NI) COVID-19 Hospitalisation Rates Compared: July 2022 Eleven Times Worse Than July 2020
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[04:28]	TR News	Paying technical debt in our accessibility infrastructure - Transcript from my GUADEC talk - Federico's Blog https://viruta.org/paying-technical-debt-transcript.html Source: viruta | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//viruta.org/paying-technical-debt-transcript.html
[04:28]	TR Bot	 Paying technical debt in our accessibility infrastructure - Transcript from my GUADEC talk - Federico's Blog
[04:29]	TR News	How to install Counter-Strike 1.6 Server On Ubuntu/Debian https://unixcop.com/how-to-install-counter-strike-1-6-server-on-ubuntu-debian/ Source: unixcop | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//unixcop.com/how-to-install-counter-strike-1-6-server-on-ubuntu-debian/
[04:29]	TR Bot	 How to install Counter-Strike 1.6 Server On Ubuntu/Debian - Unix / Linux the admins Tutorials
[04:30]	TR News	Track and target: FAQ on Myanmar CCTV cameras and facial recognition - Access Now https://www.accessnow.org/myanmar-cctv-cameras/ Source: accessnow | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.accessnow.org/myanmar-cctv-cameras/
[04:30]	TR Bot	 Track and target: FAQ on Myanmar CCTV cameras and facial recognition - Access Now
[04:33]	TR News	This year, or this summer, the risk of infection and also hospitalisation with COVID-19 (England and UK), is more than 10 times higher than it was 2 years ago when people still wore masks in a lot of places. We aren't tackling the crisis, we let the crisis become "normal"... because of corporate lobbying
[04:34]	TR News	There is nothing normal about this https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/08/04/us-debt/
[04:34]	TR Bot	Blog Archive You Know Your Economy Spins Out of Control When
[04:34]	TR News	"To put things in perspective, on 11-07-2022 no less than 2,005 people were admitted to hospital with COVID-19, compared to 3,008 in the whole of July 2020." https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/08/04/covid19-hospitalisation-statistics/
[04:35]	TR News	"Were fast approaching one millions hospitalisations, having already surpassed 200,000 deaths." https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/08/04/indifference-to-covid/
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[04:37]	TR News	"The history of modularization in JavaScript is a tedious one." https://matt-rickard.com/a-first-class-language-package-manager/
[04:37]	TR Bot	( status 308 @ https://matt-rickard.com/a-first-class-language-package-manager/ )
[04:38]	TR News	"Jest has been the tool of choice for writing tests in JavaScript for years now. This guide will teach you how to run a single test using Jest. Lets get going!" https://geshan.com.np/blog/2022/07/jest-run-single-test/
[04:38]	TR Bot	 Two useful ways to easily run a single test using Jest
[04:40]	TR News	"In 1970, robotics expert Masahiro Mori first described the effect of the "uncanny valley," a concept that has had a massive impact on the field of robotics. The uncanny valley, or UV, effect, describes the positive and negative responses that human beings exhibit when they see human-like objects, specifically robots." https://cacm.acm.org/news/262910-crossing-the-uncanny-valley/fulltext
[04:40]	TR Bot	 Crossing the Uncanny Valley | News | Communications of the ACM
[04:50]	TR News	London in the 1980s https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/08/04/london-in-the-1980s/
[04:50]	TR Bot	Blog Archive London in the 1980s
[04:56]	TR News	BillBC celebrating 1984 https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-62243427
[04:56]	TR Bot	Cup to use drones to help protect stadiums - BBC News
[04:57]	TR News	"As brain implants become more commonplace and may eventually be used for non-medical purposes, some experts believe they must be regulated." https://cacm.acm.org/magazines/2022/8/262912-neurotechnology-and-the-law/fulltext
[04:57]	TR Bot	 Neurotechnology and the Law | August 2022 | Communications of the ACM
[04:57]	TR News	Hostplus, Canva and the year of super losses https://michaelwest.com.au/morningstar-top-performing-fund-superannuation-hostplus-canva/
[04:57]	TR Bot	 Is Australia's top performing fund smoke and mirrors? Hostplus, Canva and the year of super losses - Michael West
[04:58]	TR News	[Old] "Data shows that Rajasthan is not the best place to live in if youre a Dalit. But what happens when a Dalit seeks justice? What are the perils and pitfalls, the long and often futile processes that he or she must face?" https://ruralindiaonline.org/en/articles/a-dalit-goes-to-court---2/
[04:58]	TR Bot	 A Dalit goes to court 2
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● Aug 04
[05:02]	TR News	"For an estimated one billion people around the world drinking coffee is a daily regime. Yet what many coffee lovers might not know is that they are often drinking a brew made, at least in part, from Brazilian beans." https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-62235741
[05:02]	TR Bot	 The tech helping to bring you your morning coffee - BBC News
[05:03]	TR News	"On old friendships and new loneliness" https://www.datagubbe.se/constline/
[05:03]	TR Bot	Online In Real Life | datagubbe.se
[05:04]	TR News	"Suddenly my blog archive has grown from 18 entries to 74. At some point I intend creating a separate list of what I consider the posts which are most likely to be of longer-term interest, because there is now a definite divide between more substantial and ephemeral posts." https://tratt.net/laurie/blog/2022/another_reorganisation.html
[05:04]	TR Bot	communicate securely with peer: no common encryption algorithm(s). ( status 0 @ https://tratt.net/laurie/blog/2022/another_reorganisation.html )
[05:13]	TR News	Some of today's parents have it all backwards. Children are their responsibility, their choice. Kids aren't indebted to their parents, they're oftentimes just 'vanity projects' of the parents. The media likes to distort or invert responsibilities for whatever reason.
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[05:33]	TR News	When the national debt was about 150 billion pounds, not 2.4 trillion pounds (an increase no less than 16 times in just over 32 years) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/08/04/london-in-the-1980s/
[05:33]	TR News	Digital autonomy and the GNOME desktop https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/Digital_autonomy_and_the_GNOME_desktop.shtml
[05:33]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Digital autonomy and the GNOME desktop
[05:34]	TR News	The Linux Foundation Welcome Jefferson Braswell as openIDL Project Executive Director... https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/03/leftovers_2.shtml
[05:34]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines today's leftovers"
[05:34]	DaemonFC	https://www.phoronix.com/news/Lenovo-Linux-2022-State
[05:34]	TR Bot	Expects 30+ Platforms With Linux Support This Year, Both AMD & Intel Systems - Phoronix
[05:34]	TR News	Security: Malware, Mistakes, Patches, and Snake-oil https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/03/Security:_Malware,_Mistakes,_Patches,_and_Snake-oil.shtml
[05:34]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Security: Malware, Mistakes, Patches, and Snake-oil
[05:34]	DaemonFC	Quite often, the "Linux" version not only costs more, it has half as much RAM and a slower processor.
[05:34]	TR News	Milandr MDR32F02FI is a RISC-V microcontroller for (Russian) electricity meters... https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/03/today%27s_leftovers.shtml
[05:34]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines today's leftovers
[05:35]	DaemonFC	That's what they tried to do with this laptop.
[05:35]	TR News	today's howtos https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/03/howtos_2.shtml
[05:35]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines today's howtos
[05:35]	TR News	IBM-sponsored (disclosure missing) marketing fluff... https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/03/Red_Hat__IBM_Fluff.shtml
[05:35]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Red Hat / IBM Fluff
[05:35]	schestowitz[TR2]	DaemonFC: yes, I noticed
[05:35]	schestowitz[TR2]	Lenovoi pays many "Linux" events
[05:35]	schestowitz[TR2]	while shilling Miceosoft
[05:35]	schestowitz[TR2]	and 'secure' killswitzch
[05:36]	DaemonFC	When people wipe Windows off of it instead of paying another $100 for the Linux model with half as much RAM and a slower CPU, they say nobody wanted Linux.
[05:37]	DaemonFC	I may never max out 16 GB of RAM, but why would I pay $100 more for a laptop with 8?
[05:38]	schestowitz[TR2]	because "Lenovo <3 Linux"
[05:38]	schestowitz[TR2]	and pays some "Linux" orgs
[05:38]	schestowitz[TR2]	BTW, I faced the same issue
[05:38]	schestowitz[TR2]	many buy "Windows" laptops
[05:38]	schestowitz[TR2]	and wipe Windows
[05:38]	schestowitz[TR2]	or Chromebooks
[05:38]	DaemonFC	The Windows model is cheaper and often comes with more hardware because Windows is a pig.
[05:39]	schestowitz[TR2]	the Microsoft surplus comes from monopoly rents
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[05:41]	schestowitz-TR	DaemonFC: you should do an article about it
[05:41]	schestowitz-TR	irc and social control media are less visible and hard to find a few years down the line
[05:42]	schestowitz-TR	although they can be less "work"
[05:42]	schestowitz-TR	yes, that is so the vendors can assert a reduced demand for "Linux" laptop 
[05:42]	schestowitz-TR	computers and claim that "customers want" windows
[05:43]	schestowitz-TR	oops, wrong client, wait:
[05:43]	Techrights-sec	yes, that is so the vendors can assert a reduced demand for "Linux" laptop 
[05:43]	Techrights-sec	computers and claim that "customers want" windows
[05:43]	schestowitz-TR	I was quoting before
[05:43]	Techrights-sec	s; similar for how they 
[05:43]	Techrights-sec	really hide the option for having GNU/Linux pre-installed
[05:45]	Techrights-sec	It's getting to the point that if you want that option you have to go to
[05:45]	Techrights-sec	a specialist company like Slimbook or System76
[05:47]	DaemonFC	You're certainly better off.
[05:47]	DaemonFC	I can't imagine how they'd bungle the firmware worse than Lenovo does.
[05:48]	DaemonFC	It's crap firmware even to run Windows with. They tick all the boxes they need to and ship it. Microsoft doesn't care if it's good or not.
[05:49]	Techrights-sec	:(
[05:49]	Techrights-sec	ack
[05:49]	Techrights-sec	:(
[05:49]	Techrights-sec	ack
[05:53]	TR News	US economy is finished. It's drained to death with debt. No wonder US uses Ukraine to hack away at the other superpower and Microsoft Pelosi goes to Taiwan to provoke China. That's all they have left, like Microsoft trying to sabotage Linux FROM THE INSIDE.
[05:56]	TR News	[GIT PULL] MM updates for 5.20-rc1 - Andrew Morton https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220803133541.18b82ec9344ed0e8b975fe5b@linux-foundation.org/ Source: linux foundation | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220803133541.18b82ec9344ed0e8b975fe5b@linux-foundation.org/
[05:56]	TR Bot	 [GIT PULL] MM updates for 5.20-rc1 - Andrew Morton
[05:57]	TR News	Linux CLI in 60 Seconds - head & tail - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=dBSUjmKEadA | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/dBSUjmKEadA
[05:57]	TR Bot	 Linux CLI in 60 Seconds - head & tail - Invidious
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[05:59]	TR News	"Advantech has announced the AIMB-522 industrial Micro-ATX motherboard with AMD Ryzen Embedded 5000 Series Zen3 processors for AI image processing in automation and surveillance applications." https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/08/04/amd-ryzen-embedded-5000-series-cpus-show-up-in-micro-atx-motherboard/
[05:59]	TR Bot	 AMD Ryzen Embedded 5000 Series CPUs show up in Micro-ATX motherboard - CNX Software
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[06:02]	DaemonFC	schestowitz-TR, I have Searx set up to use Qwant and DuckDuckGo as well as Google.
[06:02]	DaemonFC	That way if something's not responding, I still get plenty of results.
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[06:03]	DaemonFC	https://lcarsde.github.io/index.html
[06:03]	TR Bot	 lcarsde - LCARS Desktop Environment
[06:03]	DaemonFC	LOL
[06:04]	DaemonFC	The copyright for LCARS is held by CBS, and they've been very VERY litigious about it.
[06:05]	DaemonFC	Of course they're hosting it on Microsoft GitHub. We'll see how long this lasts once CBS's attorneys hear about it.
[06:05]	DaemonFC	https://web.archive.org/web/20121027024019/http://code.google.com/p/moonblink/wiki/Tricorder
[06:05]	TR Bot	 Tricorder - moonblink - A tricorder for Android. - Android Projects by Moonblink, including shared libraries. - Google Project Hosting
[06:06]	DaemonFC	Here's a project that GULAG took down when Play was still called Android Market.
[06:06]	DaemonFC	There also used to be an LCARS theme for Mozilla Suite, but they took it down due to legal threats.
[06:09]	DaemonFC	I never thought LCARS looked futuristic.
[06:12]	DaemonFC	I always thought that the Solaris Nimbus theme looked pretty nice. The "Java Desktop System" theme was a variant of this.
[06:14]	DaemonFC	http://linuxsysconfig.com/install-the-nimbus-theme-on-centos6rhel6/
[06:14]	TR Bot	the Nimbus theme on Centos6/RHEL6 | linuxsysconfig
[06:14]	DaemonFC	There was also a dark variant.
[06:14]	DaemonFC	It looked a lot sharper than all of these "Dark Modes".
[06:27]	DaemonFC	It seems there's this race to adopt "two options" for what your computer looks like, like Windows and Mac have imposed.
[06:28]	DaemonFC	For now you can still control your fonts and icons. When will GNOME get rid of that and claim users are too stupid to pick fonts and icons?
[06:54]	DaemonFC	https://www.cnbc.com/2022/08/02/celsius-investors-owed-4point7-billion-beg-judge-to-recover-life-savings.html
[06:54]	TR Bot	 Celsius investors owed $4.7 billion beg judge to recover life savings
[06:54]	DaemonFC	LOL
[06:54]	DaemonFC	"Homeless, suicidal, down to last $1,000: Celsius investors beg bankruptcy judge for help"
[06:54]	DaemonFC	"    Some of the 1.7 million Celsius customers ensnared by the alleged fraud are now directly pleading with the Southern District of New York to help them get their money back.
[06:54]	DaemonFC	    It is the latest sign that bankruptcy court has become the de facto arbiter of crypto policy in the U.S."
[06:55]	DaemonFC	schestowitz-TR, ^
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● Aug 04
[07:01]	DaemonFC	https://wgntv.com/news/chicago-news/police-13-year-old-boy-dies-after-being-shot-by-attempted-car-theft-victim-on-south-side/
[07:01]	TR Bot	 Police: 13-year-old boy dies after being shot by attempted car theft victim on South Side | WGN-TV
[07:01]	DaemonFC	Good.
[07:01]	matey	fwif
[07:02]	matey	fwiw rather
[07:02]	DaemonFC	One less carjacker in Chicago.
[07:02]	matey	daemonforums.org/showthread.php?t=9559
[07:02]	matey	It is possible to boot OpenBSD with Secure Boot enabled by using the Linux Foundation's PreLoader & HashTool utilities. Now reboot the machine and enable Secure Boot. When the system starts the PreLoader will detect an unauthorised image (the OpenBSD bootloader) and will offer to start the HashTool so that the loader.efi can be authorised.
[07:02]	matey	this is nothing i want to bother doing, and i dont own any machines that mandate secure boot
[07:02]	DaemonFC	If you're old enough to pick up a gun and point it at someone, you're old enough to die by one.
[07:02]	matey	"by using the Linux Foundation's PreLoader" <- im certainly not interested in this
[07:03]	matey	but i thought this was interesting:
[07:03]	matey	" Now reboot the machine and enable Secure Boot. When the system starts the PreLoader will detect an unauthorised image (the OpenBSD bootloader) and will offer to start the HashTool so that the loader.efi can be authorised."
[07:03]	matey	i mean, lol
[07:04]	matey	im trying to figure out how that doesnt defeat the whole fucking purpose of secure boot
[07:04]	matey	but its too convoluted for me to 1. know or 2. give a fuck
[07:05]	matey	2015: https://www.osnews.com/story/28416/windows-10-to-make-the-secure-boot-alt-os-lock-out-a-reality/
[07:05]	TR Bot	10 to make the Secure Boot alt-OS lock out a reality OSnews
[07:06]	matey	Windows 11 and Dual Booting: Secure Boot Can Be Disabled, But Has To Be ... www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/obcdt8/windows_11_and_dual_booting_secure_boot_can_be/ 
[07:06]	matey	2015: Linuxs worst-case scenario: Windows 10 makes Secure Boot mandatory, locks out other operating systems
[07:07]	matey	BootHole attack work even with Secure Boot enabled because, for some devices or OS setups, the Secure Boot process doesn't cryptographically verify the grub.cfg file, allowing attackers to tamper ...
[07:11]	matey	One Can Speculate Why Windows-Friendly OEMs Start Enforcing Windows-Only Boot on Laptops (Microsoft Blocking BSD and GNU/Linux With UEFI) <- im getting sceptical about this whole headline
[07:11]	matey	1. weve been here before (7 years ago)
[07:11]	matey	2. only techrights is making this fuss
[07:11]	matey	while its easy to spin the narrative that ONLY techrights has this story, or ONLY techrights cares about this
[07:12]	matey	i dont believe that either. if this was really like techrights is saying, other people WOULD be concerned AND say something
[07:12]	matey	im sure theres some truth to this narrative. there always is.
[07:12]	matey	is techrights overblowing it several times over? probably.
[07:12]	DaemonFC	https://cases.stretto.com/public/x191/11749/PLEADINGS/1174908012280000000082.pdf
[07:13]	matey	would i be pissed if this were true? yeah.
[07:13]	DaemonFC	"a gross if not criminal"
[07:13]	matey	do i believe this story? not entirely.
[07:13]	DaemonFC	Well, the sad thing about these crypto scams is what they did is not illegal.
[07:13]	DaemonFC	As long as they aren't hiding assets from the bankruptcy court, then they're actually not committing bankruptcy fraud.
[07:13]	matey	when i used to try to get straight answers about this stuff, i believed in the hype
[07:13]	DaemonFC	Because there's no law requiring them to give any money back to their marks.
[07:14]	matey	so when i couldnt get straight answers, i assumed good faith
[07:14]	matey	i dont do that anymore. stuff like this just increases my scepticism.
[07:15]	matey	i wonder who is going to be honest about the rest of the facts, because techrights spins things until its a pain in the arse to deal with as a "source"
[07:15]	matey	and un-spinning things becomes a full time job
[07:15]	matey	you know, just so its possible to know wtf youre talking about, when talking about a tr story
[07:15]	matey	you have to go find out what things were like before roy ran them through the hype machine
[07:16]	matey	its pretty damned annoying, because it makes it pretty clear roy thinks all his readers are suckers.
[07:16]	matey	roy: its not like that
[07:16]	matey	yeah, whatever
[07:16]	matey	i know it is, but say what you like
[07:16]	DaemonFC	https://cases.stretto.com/public/x191/11749/PLEADINGS/1174907222280000000086.pdf
[07:16]	DaemonFC	"yet this week alone, they continue to
[07:16]	DaemonFC	pay their board members and their staff over $4 Million dollars, yet I'm stuck wondering
[07:16]	DaemonFC	how I can pay my rent next month"
[07:17]	DaemonFC	LOL
[07:17]	DaemonFC	He put $50,000 in "Celsius" and left only $1,000 in his checking account.
[07:18]	DaemonFC	Then he posted a screengrab of his "account balance" at "Celsius" (there's no actual money except to continue paying themselves, you know, which is why they filed bankruptcy), and of course the guy is using a Mac.
[07:20]	DaemonFC	Welcome Stephen, you have NaN dollars in your account.
[07:20]	DaemonFC	:)
[07:23]	DaemonFC	https://www.reddit.com/r/uphold/comments/wdnwi7/uphold_mega_scam_thread/
[07:23]	TR Bot	 Uphold Mega Scam thread : uphold
[07:23]	DaemonFC	schestowitz-TR, "HoldUp" is freezing people's accounts and taking their money. Then saying "terms of service violation".
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[08:26]	TR News	Shutting down Gemini for a moment, scheduled maintenance for testing and assembly
[08:33]	TR News	Common SASL Commands and Packages https://linuxhint.com/common-sasl-commands-packages/ Source: LinuxHint | GNU | Linux | FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//linuxhint.com/common-sasl-commands-packages/
[08:33]	TR Bot	 Common SASL Commands and Packages
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[08:50]	TR News	ICBM Red Hat uploads its sample code to Microsoft's proprietary prison. Says a lot about attitude... https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/08/04/quick-java-application-setup-using-kafka-messaging
[08:50]	TR Bot	 Quick Java application setup using Kafka messaging | Red Hat Developer
[08:54]	TR News	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167986 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/howtos_2.shtml
[08:54]	TR Bot	 today's howtos | Tux Machines
[08:54]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines today's howtos
[08:57]	TR News	gosling Natural Sounding Text-to-Speech in the Terminal Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167987 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/gosling__Natural_Sounding_Text-to-Speech_in_the_Terminal.shtml
[08:57]	TR Bot	 gosling Natural Sounding Text-to-Speech in the Terminal | Tux Machines
[08:57]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines gosling Natural Sounding Text-to-Speech in the Terminal
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[09:00]	TR News	Slax Linux Re-Introduces a Slackware Variant With Slax 15 Release - It's FOSS News http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167969#comment-34505
[09:00]	TR Bot	 Slackware-Based Slax Linux Is Back After 9 Years of Hiatus | Tux Machines
[09:09]	TR News	Linux Around The World: Denmark - LinuxLinks https://www.linuxlinks.com/linux-denmark/ Source: LinuxLinks | GNU | Linux | FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.linuxlinks.com/linux-denmark/
[09:09]	TR Bot	Around The World: Denmark - LinuxLinks
[09:12]	schestowitz[TR2]	Ariadne: bsdnow has a new episode
[09:12]	schestowitz[TR2]	you are mentioned in it https://www.bsdnow.tv/466
[09:13]	TR Bot	 BSD Now 466: cat(1)s efficiency
[09:13]	TR News	"Contributing to Open Source Beyond Software Development, bringing TLS 1.3 to the Internet of Old Things, How efficient can cat(1) be, boost the speed of Unix shell programs, Running FreeBSD VNET Jails on AWS EC2 with Bastille, and more" https://www.bsdnow.tv/466
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[10:02]	TR News	IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, August 03, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/08/04/irc-log-030822/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/04/irc-log-030822/
[10:02]	TR Bot	 IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, August 03, 2022 | Techrights
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[10:40]	TR News	Linux Mint 21, codenamed Vanessa is now available for download, which was released on 31st July 2022 and is based on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS. http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167848#comment-34506
[10:40]	TR Bot	 New Release of Linux Mint (3 Flavours) | Tux Machines
[10:41]	TR News	"SwissArmyPi is a free open-source project (MIT licensed) that transform your Raspberry Pi, or even the Zero edition into a formidable hacking and pentesting tool." https://medevel.com/swissarmypi/
[10:41]	TR Bot	 SwissArmyPi Converts your Raspberry Pi into a Strong Hacking Tool
● Aug 04
[11:00]	TR News	Links 04/08/2022: Steam Deck in Asia | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/08/04/steam-deck-in-asia/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/04/steam-deck-in-asia/
[11:00]	TR Bot	 Links 04/08/2022: Steam Deck in Asia | Techrights
[11:00]	TR News	Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167988 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/programming_1.shtml
[11:00]	TR Bot	 Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
[11:00]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Programming Leftovers
[11:01]	TR News	SwissArmyPi and Raspberry Pi Longevity Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167989 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/SwissArmyPi_and_Raspberry_Pi_Longevity.shtml
[11:01]	TR Bot	 SwissArmyPi and Raspberry Pi Longevity | Tux Machines
[11:01]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines SwissArmyPi and Raspberry Pi Longevity
[11:01]	TR News	Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167990 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/s_leftovers.shtml
[11:01]	TR Bot	 today's leftovers | Tux Machines
[11:01]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines today's leftovers
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[11:28]	DaemonFC	https://www.ladbible.com/news/mcdonalds-restaurant-bans-all-under18s-from-entering-after-5pm-20220730
[11:28]	TR Bot	 McDonald's Restaurant Bans All Under-18s From Entering After 5pm
[11:28]	DaemonFC	Anti-social behavior.
[11:28]	DaemonFC	In the UK even!
[11:29]	DaemonFC	It's good to see the parents aren't doing their jobs and turning the kid over their knee anymore there too.
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[11:29]	DaemonFC	"Apply the board of education to the seat of the student body."
[11:34]	DaemonFC	https://crankers.com/gas-car-road-trips/
[11:34]	TR Bot	buys electric vehicle, but admits taking gas car on road trips because she's afraid - Crankers
[11:34]	DaemonFC	Just keep the Buick.....You're gonna need it.
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[11:36]	DaemonFC	https://wgntv.com/news/coronavirus/biden-tests-positive-for-5th-straight-day-after-rebound-covid-infection/
[11:36]	TR Bot	 Biden tests positive for 5th straight day after rebound COVID infection | WGN-TV
[11:37]	schestowitz[TR2]	DaemonFC: two links:
[11:37]	DaemonFC	It's nice not to have to hear too much from Biden. He wanted to take a victory lap about the US finally managing to kill one of the terrorists that should have been dead in 1998.
[11:38]	schestowitz[TR2]	1)  https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/08/04/indifference-to-covid/ https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/08/04/covid19-hospitalisation-statistics/
[11:38]	TR Bot	Blog Archive United Kingdom (England, Scotland, Wales, NI) COVID-19 Hospitalisation Rates Compared: July 2022 Eleven Times Worse Than July 2020
[11:38]	TR Bot	Blog Archive July COVID-19 Hospitalisation Statistics Compared: 3,008 in 2020, 18,513 in 2021, 47,018 in 2022 (This Past Month 16 Times More Than First Year of Coronavirus Breakout)
[11:38]	DaemonFC	They finally got the guy at the young age of 71.
[11:38]	schestowitz[TR2]	the second is included at the end of (1):
[11:38]	schestowitz[TR2]	2)
[11:38]	DaemonFC	That's what happens to terrorists that fuck with us.
[11:38]	schestowitz[TR2]	techrights-news> You definitely never want to catch COVID-19. EVER! https://www.ninds.nih.gov/news-events/press-releases/small-nih-study-reveals-how-immune-response-triggered-covid-19-may-damage-brain
[11:38]	schestowitz[TR2]	-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- www.ninds.nih.gov | Small NIH study reveals how immune response triggered by COVID-19 may damage the brain | National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke
[11:38]	TR Bot	 Small NIH study reveals how immune response triggered by COVID-19 may damage the brain | National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke
[11:38]	schestowitz[TR2]	so if you thought biden was a senile
[11:38]	DaemonFC	They live a nice long life that gets cut short a few months by a $5 million drone strike.
[11:38]	schestowitz[TR2]	just wait till he starts fist-bumping the mirror
[11:43]	DaemonFC	Aw c'mon, man!
[11:44]	DaemonFC	Go easy on him. Not like his dog or the stairs leading up to Air Force One, or COVID which he's had all month including AGAIN right after saying how much progress we've all made.
[11:44]	DaemonFC	Or the inflation reports.
[11:45]	DaemonFC	Or the speculation over what "recession" means because we're in one and the Democrat cronies in the media don't want to call it. If Trump was in office, you'd have 24 hour wall to wall "news" about the "recession" (present tense).
[11:46]	DaemonFC	Biden deserves some credit. He did unite the country.
[11:46]	DaemonFC	He's less popular than Donald Trump, and not even polls arranged by Democrats can cover it up fully.
[11:48]	DaemonFC	WHen George W. Bush had approval numbers like this, Stephen Colbert called it "the backwash" like what happens when you swallow too much of your drink at once and some comes back up.
[11:48]	DaemonFC	Colbert doesn't say anything bad about Democrats.
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[11:50]	DaemonFC	Most of the media are dyed-in-the-wool Democrats. They support (or are) the people who flew to Jeff Epstein's island, masturbate on the evening news, and tell federal agents posing as someone's mother that they want to "teach" a 9 year old how to have sex.
[11:50]	DaemonFC	That wasn't just Microsoft Peter. It was that CNN guy too. What was his name?
[11:52]	DaemonFC	Always CNN. Like the same CNN with Chris Cuomo. The news covered for Andrew Cuomo for rape. He raped every woman around him. Big time Democrat. Part of the Clinton Administration in the 90s (HUD secretary) long before Governor of New York.
[11:52]	DaemonFC	The Democrats have all these sex scandals now, especially the ones involving kids and "dozens" of women.
[11:53]	DaemonFC	The worst they could dig up on Trump is that an adult woman had sex with him for $40,000.
[11:55]	DaemonFC	https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2021/12/30/sex-scandals-sinking-ratings-cnn-imploding-on-eve-of-streaming-launch/
[11:55]	TR Bot	 Sex Scandals, Sinking Ratings: CNN Imploding on Eve of Streaming Launch
[11:55]	DaemonFC	CNN's streaming service, which they spent many millions on, collapsed and was shut down within a month of its launch.
[11:56]	DaemonFC	"John Griffin, who worked as a senior producer on Chris Cuomos show, was arrested this month on child sex trafficking charges. He has pleaded not guilty to the charges, which include allegations that he used Kik and Google Hangout to persuade parents to allow him to train their daughters to be sexually submissive."
[11:56]	DaemonFC	"Prosecutors claim that in one instance, Griffin arranged for a nine-year-old girl to travel from Nevada to his Vermont residence where she was directed to engage in, and did engage in, unlawful sexual activity."
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[11:57]	DaemonFC	CNN has all of these perverts and is the most tainted "news" outlet for letting Billshit all over the place.
[11:57]	DaemonFC	Can't be a coincidence.
[11:58]	DaemonFC	Chomo News Network
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[12:01]	DaemonFC	The page on Breitbart about Jackie Walorski dying in a car crash descended rapidly.
[12:02]	DaemonFC	Someone speculated with no evidence that the 55 year old in the other car "must have had a heart attack due to a COVID vaccine" and then like 10 other people agreed and someone said maybe the other driver was texting, and others said "Not a 55 year old!".
[12:02]	DaemonFC	My mom is 65 and texts while she drives.
[12:03]	DaemonFC	The accident investigators haven't said why the other driver crashed into Walorski's car, much less anything about a heart attack.
[12:03]	DaemonFC	(Which people have always had at any age.)
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[12:10]	TR News	Translate the web easily with a browser extension Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167991 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/Translate_the_web_easily_with_a_browser_extension.shtml
[12:10]	TR Bot	 Translate the web easily with a browser extension | Tux Machines
[12:10]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Translate the web easily with a browser extension
[12:11]	TR News	Peppermint OS Now Also Offers a Systemd-free Devuan Variant! Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167992 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/Peppermint_OS_Now_Also_Offers_a_Systemd-free_Devuan_Variant!.shtml
[12:11]	TR Bot	 Peppermint OS Now Also Offers a Systemd-free Devuan Variant! | Tux Machines
[12:11]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Peppermint OS Now Also Offers a Systemd-free Devuan Variant!
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[12:13]	DaemonFC	<techrights-news> Translate the web easily with a browser extension Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167991 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/Translate_the_web_easily_with_a_browser_extension.shtml
[12:13]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR2], Bitch to Boss, from Mozilla.
[12:13]	schestowitz[TR2]	how many users?
[12:13]	schestowitz[TR2]	200?"
[12:13]	DaemonFC	762 users in the entire world agree that feeewings being hurt is definitely the worst problem on the Web.
[12:14]	DaemonFC	762 downloads rather.
[12:14]	schestowitz[TR2]	how many employees does moz    still have?
[12:14]	horseface	baclofen
[12:14]	horseface	I mean high.
[12:14]	DaemonFC	Maybe 700 of them were mjg59_ downloading it himself.
[12:14]	schestowitz[TR2]	maybe some of them are testers
[12:14]	DaemonFC	<schestowitz[TR2]> how many employees does moz    still have?
[12:14]	DaemonFC	It's hard to say. They don't develop Firefox in the open anymore.
[12:14]	DaemonFC	It's all on secret Google things and Slack.
[12:16]	horseface	I had to go to court recently for driving a hotel's golf cart into their swimming pool... you see... I thought that it would be hilarious... and I was correct! it was funny as hell... anyway... I walked into the courthouse and the security metal detector sounded zimmm or whatever noise they make... so I was asked to empty my pockets! out comes a syringe and a spoon!!! ahah... they were all like: O_O meanwhile I was like rolling along the 
[12:16]	horseface	floor, laughing.
[12:19]	DaemonFC	When you go to Holiday Inn Club Vacations and someone's kids run you out of the hot tub, so you come back in a golf cart and drive it into the hot tub.
[12:19]	DaemonFC	Why didn't I think of this?
[12:22]	TR News	Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167993 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/Android_Leftovers.shtml
[12:22]	TR Bot	 Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
[12:22]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Android Leftovers
[12:22]	DaemonFC	Just explain to the judge calmly, yet firmly, that the Illinois Department of Public Health code prohibits people under 16 from using a public hot tub and that you were just creatively enforcing the Health Code.
[12:23]	DaemonFC	It shouldn't have come to this, you agree, however if the hotel staff weren't going to enforce the Health Code, who would?
[12:23]	DaemonFC	So it works just like a Citizen's Arrest, when you think about it.
[12:27]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR2], Mozilla disguises layoffs by moving Firefox development behind a privacy fence.
[12:27]	DaemonFC	You can't read their mailing lists or chats anymore.
[12:28]	DaemonFC	So you have no idea who or how many are active.
[12:29]	horseface	high schestowitz[TR2] 
[12:29]	horseface	:-*
[12:33]	schestowitz[TR2]	0/
[12:33]	schestowitz[TR2]	sorry, busy, maing tuxmachjnes work over gemini
[12:33]	schestowitz[TR2]	e.g. gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/howtos_2.gmi
[12:34]	DaemonFC	I tried out "GNOME Console" which Ubuntu says they want to switch to instead of GNOME Terminal.
[12:34]	DaemonFC	Console seems to just be Terminal with the features scooped out.
[12:34]	TR News	Ubuntu Unity 22.04.1 Released with the Latest Unity 7.6 Desktop Environment Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167994
[12:34]	TR Bot	 Ubuntu Unity 22.04.1 Released with the Latest Unity 7.6 Desktop Environment | Tux Machines
[12:34]	DaemonFC	It can pretty much only open new tabs and load your user shell, and that's it.
[12:35]	DaemonFC	It's things like this that make me consider going to KDE.
[12:35]	DaemonFC	They say they have no plan to stop developing GNOME Terminal because "power users" need it.
[12:36]	DaemonFC	I'm guessing that means the developers of GNOME themselves don't want to use Console. So what is Console for?
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[13:00]	XRevan86	MinceR: "how big is it? 32"?" <- 12.5'' :)
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[13:06]	schestowitz[TR2]	<DaemonFC> It's all on secret Google things and Slack.
[13:06]	schestowitz[TR2]	oh dear
[13:06]	schestowitz[TR2]	Slack??
[13:06]	ulf	puff-piece on german tv: "TeamViewer" software vendor, member of "Bitkom" (foundation) insists on "BlueCard" Visa permits to hire "highly qualified staff"
[13:06]	ulf	this is what german economy needs... anti-competitive shitware
[13:07]	ulf	for this "BlueCard" an academic diploma degree is necessary, and a contract with annual salary of 56K shitcoins
[13:10]	TR News	Ubuntu Unity 22.04.1 Released with the Latest Unity 7.6 Desktop Environment Tux Machines https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/While_still_an_unofficial_flavor_Ubuntu_Unity_2204_was_released_back_in_April_2022.shtml
[13:10]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Ubuntu Unity 22.04.1 Released with the Latest Unity 7.6 Desktop Environment
[13:15]	TR News	Censorship https://www.techdirt.com/2022/08/03/indonesia-wields-new-censorship-law-to-block-yahoo-paypal-and-several-gaming-websites/ | Source: Techdirt
[13:15]	TR Bot	Wields New Censorship Law To Block Yahoo, Paypal, And Several Gaming Websites | Techdirt
[13:15]	TR News	"Young people are invited to feel like patients rather than students." https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/08/02/university-gives-history-students-trigger-warning-graphic-miracles/ | Source: The Telegraph UK
[13:15]	TR Bot	 History students warned accounts of religious miracles may disturb them
[13:15]	TR News	"Chakar made the announcement on Twitter on July 31." https://www.duvarenglish.com/award-winning-opera-singer-pervin-chakar-barred-from-taking-stage-at-turkish-university-over-kurdish-songs-news-61089 | Source: duvaR
[13:15]	TR Bot	 Award-winning opera singer Pervin Chakar barred from taking stage at Turkish university over Kurdish songs
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[13:26]	TR News	#HowTo Remove White Space from the File Name in Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167995 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/How_to_Remove_White_Space_from_the_File_Name_in_Linux.shtml
[13:26]	TR Bot	 How to Remove White Space from the File Name in Linux | Tux Machines
[13:26]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines How to Remove White Space from the File Name in Linux
[13:31]	TR News	First Release Candidate of Krita 5.1.0 is out Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167996 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/First_Release_Candidate_of_Krita_5.1.0_is_out.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/First_Release_Candidate_of_Krita_5.1.0_is_out.gmi
[13:31]	TR Bot	 First Release Candidate of Krita 5.1.0 is out | Tux Machines
[13:31]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines First Release Candidate of Krita 5.1.0 is out
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[15:32]	AdmFubar	https://www.propublica.org/article/covid-maternity-stillbirth-vaccines-pregnancy#1380083
[15:32]	TR Bot	 COVID-Related Stillbirths Didnt Have to Happen ProPublica
[15:35]	AdmFubar	https://www.rawstory.com/great-barrier-reef-sees-fragile-coral-comeback/
[15:35]	TR Bot	 Great Barrier Reef sees fragile coral comeback - Raw Story - Celebrating 18 Years of Independent Journalism
[15:49]	AdmFubar	https://www.techdirt.com/2022/08/03/why-the-massive-china-police-database-hack-is-bad-news-for-surveillance-states-everywhere/
[15:49]	TR Bot	The Massive China Police Database Hack Is Bad News For Surveillance States Everywhere | Techdirt
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[15:58]	AdmFubar	https://www.theregister.com/2022/08/04/the_many_derivatives_of_cpm/
[15:58]	TR Bot	 The many derivatives of the CP/M operating system The Register
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[16:03]	TR News	GitLab Plans to Save Up to $1M by Deleting Inactive Projects by Free Users Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167997 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/GitLab_could_turn_out_to_be_the_villain_we_never_expected_with_this_new_po.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/GitLab_could_turn_out_to_be_the_villain_we_never_expected_with_this_new_po.gmi
[16:03]	TR Bot	 GitLab Plans to Save Up to $1M by Deleting Inactive Projects by Free Users | Tux Machines
[16:03]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines GitLab Plans to Save Up to $1M by Deleting Inactive Projects by Free Users
[16:04]	TR News	Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167998
[16:04]	TR Bot	 Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
[16:06]	AdmFubar	https://suddendisruption.blogspot.com/2007/08/not-going-to-burning-man.html
[16:06]	TR Bot	 Sudden Disruption: NOT going to Burning Man?
[16:10]	AdmFubar	https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2022/08/the-women-calling-out-apples-handling-of-misconduct-claims/
[16:10]	TR Bot	 The women calling out Apples handling of misconduct claims | Ars Technica
[16:14]	XRevan86	https://theins.press/en/news/253818
[16:14]	TR Bot	 Russian teacher denounced by student, sentenced to five years probation over army fakes
[16:14]	XRevan86	https://theins.press/en/news/253824
[16:14]	TR Bot	 Prosecutor asks Russian court to sentence Olympic champion Brittney Griner to 9.5 years in prison
[16:15]	XRevan86	CIT (War in Ukraine): https://telegra.ph/Dispatch-for-August-3-08-04
[16:15]	TR Bot	 Dispatch for August 3 Telegraph
[16:16]	XRevan86	https://pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/08/4/7361815/
[16:16]	TR Bot	 Russian citizen killed by Russian shelling in Ukraine | Ukrainska Pravda
[16:17]	XRevan86	https://pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/08/4/7361830/
[16:17]	TR Bot	 Toretsk: Russian strike hits crowd at bus stop, many dead | Ukrainska Pravda
[16:17]	XRevan86	https://eurointegration.com.ua/eng/news/2022/08/4/7144417/ Sherlock Holmes is on the case.
[16:17]	TR Bot	 NO TITLE
[16:17]	XRevan86	"Russia Aims to Fabricate Evidence in Olenivka - U.S."
[16:22]	TR News	Google #Android Leftovers https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/Android2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/Android2.gmi
[16:22]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Android Leftovers
[16:23]	TR News	The many derivatives of the CP/M operating system Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167999 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/The_many_derivatives_of_the_CPM_operating_system.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/The_many_derivatives_of_the_CPM_operating_system.gmi
[16:23]	TR Bot	 The many derivatives of the CP/M operating system | Tux Machines
[16:23]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines The many derivatives of the CP/M operating system
[16:25]	TR News	microsoftianism https://www.salon.com/2022/07/30/rick-ross-deprogrammer-profile/
[16:25]	TR Bot	to rescue a cult victim: An interview with Rick Ross, professional deprogammer | Salon.com
[16:27]	TR News	"and ive gotta be honest, only toxic people allow it" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-020822.html#tAug%2002%2005:09:39
[16:27]	TR Bot	 IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, August 02, 2022
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[16:28]	TR News	"The Vim editor is like an ocean wonderful and joyful to be in, but there will always be things you don't know" https://linuxhandbook.com/pro-vim-tips/ | Source: Linux Handbook
[16:28]	TR Bot	 11 Pro Vim Tips to Get Better Editing Experience
[16:31]	TR News	"A little while ago Valve showed the current top 10 most played games on Steam Deck and now we have an update on what people are currently playing." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/08/heres-the-current-most-played-games-on-steam-deck/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[16:31]	TR Bot	the current most-played games on Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux
[16:31]	TR News	"Some huge news for the future of the Steam Deck, as Valve has announced a teaming up with Komodo for the release of the Steam Deck in Asia." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/08/valve-teams-with-komodo-to-bring-the-steam-deck-to-asia/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[16:31]	TR Bot	teams with Komodo to bring the Steam Deck to Asia | GamingOnLinux
[16:40]	TR News	"Good news web slingers, as Marvel's Spider-Man Remastered from Insomniac Games and Nixxes Software has been Steam Deck Verified" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/08/marvels-spider-man-remastered-is-steam-deck-verified-ahead-of-release/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[16:40]	TR Bot	Spider-Man Remastered is Steam Deck Verified ahead of release | GamingOnLinux
[16:43]	TR News	"Love The Walking Dead? Now you can pick up a whole bunch of the games thanks to the Walking Dead 10th Anniversary Bundle." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/08/get-a-bunch-of-the-walking-dead-in-the-latest-humble-bundle/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[16:43]	TR Bot	a bunch of The Walking Dead in the latest Humble Bundle | GamingOnLinux
[16:43]	TR News	"Space Bandit is a new Native Linux top-down shooter where you're running through cramped corridors on some space ship." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/08/space-bandit-is-a-top-down-shooter-with-slick-tunes-and-a-hotline-miami-vibe/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[16:43]	TR Bot	Bandit is a top-down shooter with slick tunes and a Hotline Miami vibe | GamingOnLinux
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[16:52]	TR News	"Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Shredder's Revenge is an absolutely fantastic beat 'em up throwback and now perhaps even better" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/08/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-shredders-revenge-gets-a-nice-big-stability-update/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[16:52]	TR Bot	Mutant Ninja Turtles: Shredder's Revenge gets a nice big stability update | GamingOnLinux
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[16:52]	TR News	"Enter the Panchaku is the latest big update to the rather great game Dead Cells" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/08/the-30th-update-for-dead-cells-is-out-now-as-enter-the-panchaku/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[16:52]	TR Bot	30th update for Dead Cells is out now as 'Enter the Panchaku' | GamingOnLinux
[16:53]	TR News	(trying to) finally get off social media + announcing my flight log gemini://nytpu.com/gemlog/2021-01-08.gmi
[16:55]	TR News	Offpunk 1.5 :AHuge Thank You to Packagers gemini://rawtext.club/~ploum/2022-08-04-offpunk15.gmi
[16:56]	TR News	gemini
[16:56]	TR News	Petri Nets Log #004 gemini://siiky.srht.site/petri_nets/log004.gmi
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[17:03]	TR News	"Yet another event is happening now on Steam with the Survival Fest" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/08/steam-survival-fest-is-live-now-until-august-8th/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[17:03]	TR Bot	Survival Fest is live now until August 8th | GamingOnLinux
[17:16]	TR News	"there's a graphics bump coming thanks to all the work in the drivers with it hitting Vulkan" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/08/raspberry-pi-4-gets-a-graphics-bump-with-vulkan-12-conformance/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[17:16]	TR Bot	Pi 4 gets a graphics bump with Vulkan 1.2 conformance | GamingOnLinux
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[17:28]	TR News	"much awaited Linux Mint 21 has been released." https://www.linuxbuzz.com/install-linux-mint-21-step-by-step/ | Source: Linux Buzz
[17:28]	TR Bot	 How to Install Linux Mint 21 (Vanessa) Step by Step
[17:32]	TR News	NVIDIA launches Jetson AGX Orin 32GB Production Module for $999 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167970#comment-34507
[17:32]	TR Bot	 NVIDIA Jetson AGX Orin 32GB production module is now available | Tux Machines
[17:33]	TR News	"European Astro Pi Challenge" https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/astro-pi-mission-space-lab-2021-22-the-results/ | Source: Raspberry Pi
[17:33]	TR Bot	 Astro Pi Mission Space Lab 2021/22: The Results - Raspberry Pi
[17:39]	MinceR	https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/07/13/real-estate-fails/
[17:39]	TR Bot	 40 Of The Most Chaotic Real Estate Listings From The "Broke Agent" Instagram Account
[17:47]	TR News	Public Pension Funds https://www.thenation.com/article/economy/pension-funds-divestment-nso-pegasus/ | Source: The Nation
[17:47]	TR Bot	 Public Pension Fundsthe Next Battleground for Human Rights | The Nation
[17:48]	TR News	More surveillance https://www.techdirt.com/2022/08/03/why-the-massive-china-police-database-hack-is-bad-news-for-surveillance-states-everywhere/ | Source: Techdirt
[17:48]	TR Bot	The Massive China Police Database Hack Is Bad News For Surveillance States Everywhere | Techdirt
[17:48]	TR News	"consumer location data is routinely abused bya long list of bad actors" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/08/03/tim-hortons-doles-out-some-coffee-pocket-change-in-response-to-location-data-scandal/ | Source: Techdirt
[17:48]	TR Bot	Hortons Doles Out Some Coffee Pocket Change In Response To Location Data Scandal | Techdirt
[17:51]	TR News	"Here are three methods I use to capture screenshots on Linux..." https://opensource.com/article/22/8/screenshots-linux | Source: OpenSource.com
[17:51]	TR Bot	ways to take screenshots on Linux | Opensource.com
[17:53]	TR News	Lengthen the life of your hardware with Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/168000 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/Lengthen_the_life_of_your_hardware_with_Linux.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/Lengthen_the_life_of_your_hardware_with_Linux.gmi
[17:53]	TR Bot	 Lengthen the life of your hardware with Linux | Tux Machines
[17:53]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Lengthen the life of your hardware with Linux
[17:58]	TR News	Net Neutrality https://www.techdirt.com/2022/08/03/telecom-lobbyists-at-wispa-ncta-throw-hissy-fit-over-doomed-net-neutrality-bill/ | Source: Techdirt
[17:58]	TR Bot	Lobbyists At WISPA, NCTA Throw Hissy Fit Over Doomed Net Neutrality Bill | Techdirt
[17:59]	TR News	"Charter Communications and several major record labels have settled their lawsuits over the ISP's handling of repeat copyright infringers" https://torrentfreak.com/charter-settles-piracy-liability-lawsuits-with-major-record-labels-220804/ | Source: Torrent Freak
[17:59]	TR Bot	Settles Piracy Liability Lawsuits With Major Record Labels * TorrentFreak
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[18:00]	TR News	"Twitch has flagged Project Zomboid's in-game police siren sound effect as copyright infringement." https://torrentfreak.com/twitch-falsely-flags-project-zomboids-in-game-siren-as-copyright-infringement-220803/ | Source: Torrent Freak
[18:00]	TR Bot	Falsely Flags Project Zomboid's In-Game Siren as Copyright Infringement * TorrentFreak
[18:01]	TR News	Et tu, Canal+? Internet police? https://torrentfreak.com/free-f1-streaming-sites-latest-targets-in-french-piracy-blocking-campaign-220803/ | Source: Torrent Freak
[18:01]	TR Bot	F1 Streaming Sites Latest Targets in French Piracy Blocking Campaign * TorrentFreak
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[18:33]	TR News	Games: Steam Deck, Humble Bundle, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/168001 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/Games:_Steam_Deck,_Humble_Bundle,_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/Games:_Steam_Deck,_Humble_Bundle,_and_More.gmi
[18:33]	TR Bot	 Games: Steam Deck, Humble Bundle, and More | Tux Machines
[18:34]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Games: Steam Deck, Humble Bundle, and More
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[18:36]	TR News	FB is crumbling https://www.techdirt.com/2022/08/03/as-expected-facebook-is-no-longer-interested-in-paying-news-orgs-to-post-news-on-facebook-that-no-one-wants/ | Source: Techdirt
[18:36]	TR Bot	Expected, Facebook Is No Longer Interested In Paying News Orgs To Post News On Facebook That No One Wants | Techdirt
[18:37]	TR News	Trumpism means censorship https://www.techdirt.com/2022/08/03/study-says-trumps-truth-social-is-much-more-aggressive-and-much-more-arbitrary-in-moderating-content/ | see http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2017/07/29/trump-blocks-me-in-twitter/
[18:37]	TR Bot	Says Trumps Truth Social Is Much More Aggressive, And Much More Arbitrary, In Moderating Content | Techdirt
[18:37]	TR Bot	Blog Archive Trump Blocks Me in Twitter
[18:45]	TR News	Pro Publica should disclose upfront it's taking bribes from COVID-19 profiteer and Famous Criminal Bill Gates https://www.propublica.org/article/covid-misinformation-pregnancy-vaccine-testing
[18:45]	TR Bot	 Why Misinformation About COVID Vaccines and Pregnancy Isnt Going Away ProPublica
[18:46]	TR News	COVID-Related Stillbirths Didnt Have to Happen ProPublica https://www.propublica.org/article/covid-maternity-stillbirth-vaccines-pregnancy Source: propublica, bribed by Bill Gates to push agenda and leave him alone
[18:46]	TR Bot	 COVID-Related Stillbirths Didnt Have to Happen ProPublica
[18:51]	MinceR	(cat) (audio) https://rimgo.bcow.xyz/gallery/kTBOpaB
[18:51]	TR Bot	 Attack of the rare Venus Fly Cat - rimgo
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[19:07]	TR News	Summer Camp Survival Guide https://hackaday.com/2022/08/03/the-hackaday-summer-camp-survival-guide/ | Source: Hackaday
[19:07]	TR Bot	Hackaday Summer Camp Survival Guide | Hackaday
[19:08]	TR News	Pi Zero https://hackaday.com/2022/08/03/hackable-20-modem-combines-lte-and-pi-zero-w2-power/ | Source: Hackaday
[19:08]	TR Bot	$20 Modem Combines LTE And Pi Zero W2 Power | Hackaday
[19:09]	TR News	NVIDIA Unleashes The First Jetson AGX Orin Module http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167970#comment-34508
[19:09]	TR Bot	 NVIDIA Jetson AGX Orin 32GB production module is now available | Tux Machines
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[19:43]	TR News	"The language is far from reassuring." https://scheerpost.com/2022/08/03/facial-recognition-technology-down-under/ | Source: Scheerpost
[19:43]	TR Bot	Recognition Technology Down Under scheerpost.com
[19:47]	TR News	Schumer https://scheerpost.com/2022/08/04/chuck-schumers-war-on-free-speech/ | Source: Scheerpost
[19:47]	TR Bot	Ritter: Chuck Schumers War on Free Speech scheerpost.com
[19:49]	TR News	Oops, IRA: Inflation Reduction Act of 2022 (IRA) https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/08/03/manchin-approved-budget-bill-no-progressive-panacea-its-hell-lot-better-nothing | Source: Common Dreams
[19:50]	TR Bot	 Opinion | The Manchin-Approved Budget Bill Is No Progressive Panacea But It's a Hell of a Lot Better Than Nothing | Max B. Sawicky
[19:50]	TR News	Moderna patents and graft... charging money for stuff the public paid to develop https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/08/03/moderna-revenue-shows-pandemic-has-been-lucrative-smash-and-grab-big-pharma | Source: Common Dreams
[19:50]	TR Bot	 Moderna Revenue Shows Pandemic Has Been 'Lucrative Smash-and-Grab' for Big Pharma
[19:51]	TR News	On inflation https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/08/03/bernie-sanders-explains-good-bad-and-very-ugly-inflation-reduction-act | Source: Common Dreams
[19:51]	TR Bot	 Opinion | Bernie Sanders Explains the Good, the Bad, and the Very Ugly of the Inflation Reduction Act | Bernie Sanders
[19:51]	TR News	Graft https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/08/03/sanders-blasts-huge-giveaway-fossil-fuel-industry-manchin-deal | Source: Common Dreams
[19:51]	TR Bot	 Sanders Blasts 'Huge Giveaway' to Fossil Fuel Industry in Manchin Deal
[19:53]	TR News	If the homelessness were bailed out like the billionaires, there would be almost no homelessness. But the super-rich don't mind the homeless people's pain. They call them "losers" and ask the lower class to blame homeless "criminals" instead of rich plunderers. The symptom, not the disease.
[19:53]	TR News	turbolift https://hackaday.com/2022/08/03/next-floor-geosynchronous-satellites-orbiting-laboratories/ | Source: Hackaday
[19:53]	TR Bot	Floor: Geosynchronous Satellites, Orbiting Laboratories | Hackaday
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[20:02]	TR News	Rent https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/08/03/rent-skyrocketing-everywhere-and-us-tenants-are-paying-price | Source: Common Dreams
[20:02]	TR Bot	 Opinion | Rent Is Skyrocketing Everywhere and US Tenants Are Paying the Price | Eleanor J. Bader
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[20:39]	TR News	Bad idea because it is proprietary, spyware, and controlled by Microsoft, which wants to control you ttps://idroot.us/install-visual-studio-code-linux-mint-21/
[20:43]	TR News	11 Pro Vim Tips to Get Better Editing Experience https://linuxhandbook.com/pro-vim-tips/ Source: LinuxHandbook | GNU | Linux | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//linuxhandbook.com/pro-vim-tips/
[20:43]	TR Bot	 11 Pro Vim Tips to Get Better Editing Experience
[20:45]	TR News	Terrible advice: using proprietary software controlled by Microsoft and censored by RIAA sends the wrong signal to worthy employers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWC_1nISLKE
[20:45]	TR Bot	https://invidious.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=ZWC_1nISLKE
[20:45]	TR Bot	inv.bp.projectsegfau.lt | Why you should build your Portfolio in Github to gain a Linux Job - Invidious
[20:46]	schestowitz[TR2]	matey will love this bullshit ^^
[20:46]	schestowitz[TR2]	want a Linux job?
[20:46]	schestowitz[TR2]	CHOOSE MICROSOF!
[20:46]	schestowitz[TR2]	yeah, makes sense...
[20:46]	schestowitz[TR2]	what job? azure?
[20:46]	schestowitz[TR2]	azure layofss off its own staff
[20:47]	TR News	With its chips recently adopted by Google Cloud and HPE, Ampere Computing is giving ARM-based chips the kind of server breakthrough that has eluded other chip companies. These companies' backing provides a big boost to the entire ARM server ecosystem.
[20:47]	TR News	ARM Server Chips Get a Boost with Amperes Altra - The New Stack https://thenewstack.io/arm-server-chips-get-a-boost-with-amperes-altra/ Source: thenewstack | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//thenewstack.io/arm-server-chips-get-a-boost-with-amperes-altra/
[20:47]	TR Bot	 ARM Server Chips Get a Boost with Amperes Altra The New Stack
[20:48]	TR News	Michael Larabel showing off bribes from AMD again, but shows only one layer of the crate of "gifts" https://www.phoronix.com/news/AMD-EPYC-Linux-6.0-Early-Tests
[20:48]	TR Bot	Early Look At AMD EPYC Performance Gains On Linux 6.0 - Phoronix
[20:48]	schestowitz[TR2]	psydroid2: ^
[20:50]	MinceR	(audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sacmRlH4OIQ
[20:50]	TR Bot	https://invidio.xamh.de/watch?v=sacmRlH4OIQ
[20:50]	TR Bot	invidio.xamh.de | Least Eventful Day in Britain - Invidious
[20:52]	TR News	Pi Projects and News Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/168002 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/Pi_Projects_and_News.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/Pi_Projects_and_News.gmi
[20:52]	TR Bot	 Pi Projects and News | Tux Machines
[20:52]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Pi Projects and News
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[20:59]	TR News	Links 04/08/2022: Release Candidate of Krita 5.1.0 and Ubuntu Unity 22.04.1 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/08/04/ubuntu-unity-22-04-1/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/04/ubuntu-unity-22-04-1/
[20:59]	TR Bot	 Links 04/08/2022: Release Candidate of Krita 5.1.0 and Ubuntu Unity 22.04.1 | Techrights
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[21:00]	TR News	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/168003 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/today_s_howtos.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/today_s_howtos.gmi
[21:00]	TR Bot	 today's howtos | Tux Machines
[21:00]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines today's howtos
[21:04]	TR News	Sim City: 31 Years Young gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-08-04-sim-city-31-years-young.gmi
[21:04]	TR News	Re: Misadventures with bash shell gemini://ew.srht.site/en/2022/20220804-re-bash-misadventures.gmi
[21:05]	TR News	Asynchronous messaging still has its place gemini://altesq.net/~evenfire/posts/2022-08-04-2.gmi
[21:06]	TR News	"Earlier this week I created Where in the World?, a daily geography puzzle game where you have to guess the country from a picture." gemini://gemi.dev/gemlog/2022-08-04-where-in-the-world.gmi
[21:06]	TR News	"Micro-blogs, character limits and similar enforced behavior by modern platforms are not good for self expression or development of thought." gemini://altesq.net/~evenfire/posts/2022-08-04.gmi
[21:06]	schestowitz[TR2]	Ariadne: ^^
[21:08]	TR News	"Nobody who opposes liberatory ideologies has the courage to be honest and tell us, I like living in a world with rulers and subjects, haves and have-nots, and I will fight to keep things this way." gemini://degrowther.smol.pub/20220804_human_nature
[21:08]	TR News	"The Gemini-space is really versatile and offers countless ways to interact with, one aspect I love so much on Gemini is this direct thread that links a capsule to another one!" gemini://warp.geminispace.club/~freezr/gemlog/2022-08-04-relog.gmi
[21:09]	TR News	"I visited my family this week in New Jersey. It's my grandpa's birthday so we had a little reunion over here. My siblings are on summer vacation as well, so it's really nice to see everyone in one place." gemini://jagtalon.smol.pub/week-3-visiting-family-plan9-bootcamp
[21:10]	TR News	"The Geminaut" Jukebox gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1092
[21:11]	psydroid2	https://www.techpowerup.com/297232/gigabyte-first-to-launch-an-arm-based-motherboard-with-256-cpu-cores
[21:11]	TR News	KDE neon 20220804 is released today https://neon.kde.org/ good for NON-production system if you fancy KDE/Plasma
[21:11]	TR Bot	 KDE neon
[21:11]	schestowitz[TR2]	psydroid2: they should send phoronix some motherboards
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[21:12]	schestowitz[TR2]	and get glowing reviews
[21:12]	schestowitz[TR2]	and he'll tell me it's OK, it's normal, because Windows reviewers also take expensive bribes
[21:12]	psydroid2	https://www.gigabyte.com/nl/Enterprise/Server-Motherboard/MP72-HB0-rev-10
[21:12]	TR Bot	(rev. 1.0) | Server Motherboard - GIGABYTE Netherlands
[21:13]	schestowitz[TR2]	psydroid2: does not even name a price
[21:13]	psydroid2	schestowitz[TR2], they don't need to bribe anyone, their chips are already getting adopted based on merit
[21:13]	schestowitz[TR2]	so it must be very high
[21:13]	schestowitz[TR2]	their slaes people will convince you to sell the home, buy a mobo
[21:13]	schestowitz[TR2]	and be a hobo
[21:13]	psydroid2	Ariadne probably knows prices for these boards
[21:13]	psydroid2	well, this is enterprise stuff
[21:14]	psydroid2	at home you can use a raspberry pi
[21:14]	psydroid2	or some other affordable board
[21:14]	schestowitz[TR2]	"Contact our sales team
[21:14]	schestowitz[TR2]	"
[21:14]	schestowitz[TR2]	to find out pricing
[21:14]	schestowitz[TR2]	today I messed around physiocally with my 4-core raspi
[21:14]	schestowitz[TR2]	boxed it properly
[21:15]	schestowitz[TR2]	hoping I won't have to rebuild it a third time in 20 months
[21:15]	schestowitz[TR2]	no more microsd cards
[21:15]	schestowitz[TR2]	fast r+w but brittle
[21:15]	ulf	schestowitz[TR2]: try nilfs2 or fsfs filesystem
[21:15]	ulf	f2fs
[21:15]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR2], I might post about GNOME Console.
[21:15]	DaemonFC	There's not really much to talk about except how useless it is.
[21:16]	DaemonFC	About all it can do is open your default user shell and have tabs.
[21:16]	psydroid2	I switched to a USB SATA SSD after my microSD got damaged
[21:16]	DaemonFC	They've completely gutted GNOME Terminal.
[21:16]	DaemonFC	I have no idea why they would do that. People who aren't power users probably aren't using the Terminal any more often than they have to.
[21:16]	DaemonFC	They're just ruining it for everyone.
[21:17]	schestowitz[TR2]	ulf: too late
[21:17]	schestowitz[TR2]	also, the classic rapi oses use ext
[21:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	I have a growing pile of dead sd cards
[21:18]	psydroid2	GNOME is committing suicide.fyi
[21:20]	ulf	psydroid2 ?
[21:20]	psydroid2	ulf ?
[21:20]	DaemonFC	Sex trafficking and causing people to have heart attacks by telekinesis (pinching their arteries shut) and causing a car crash.
[21:21]	DaemonFC	These are just SOME of the things Debian is up to!
[21:21]	ulf	psydroid2: committing suicide?
[21:21]	psydroid2	ulf, what are you asking from me?
[21:21]	DaemonFC	Daniel Pocock is a clown. If there are any good talking points about Debian anywhere on his site, they're gone as soon as you delve into this shit.
[21:21]	ulf	i wanted to know what you were trying to say about GNOME
[21:22]	DaemonFC	The fact that MICROS~1 and LOL! No! Vo is "sponsoring" DebConf is enough of a scandal.
[21:22]	Ariadne	DaemonFC: it is not very nice to talk about mental illness so dismissively
[21:22]	DaemonFC	They want Linux to work so much that mjg59_ now admits what we all knew since I exposed them in 2016.
[21:22]	psydroid2	GNOME is becoming increasingly irrelevant and by doing these kinds of things they are only accelerating their demise
[21:23]	DaemonFC	<Ariadne> DaemonFC: it is not very nice to talk about mental illness so dismissively
[21:23]	DaemonFC	The guy is obviously some sort of paranoid schizophrenic.
[21:23]	Ariadne	yes, and?  the problem is the disruption and harassment he does to people, not his mental illness :)
[21:24]	XRevan86	https://i.ibb.co/ypv33SH/image.png What a strange coincidence!
[21:25]	XRevan86	(ulf is claiming to NOT be activelow, by the way)
[21:25]	psydroid2	obviously he isn't
[21:26]	TR News	Hyperbola - News: Milky Way v0.4.1 install medium release Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/168004 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/Hyperbola_News_Milky_Way_v0_4_1_install_medium_release.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/Hyperbola_News_Milky_Way_v0_4_1_install_medium_release.gmi
[21:26]	TR Bot	 Hyperbola - News: Milky Way v0.4.1 install medium release | Tux Machines
[21:26]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Hyperbola - News: Milky Way v0.4.1 install medium release
[21:27]	ulf	XRevan86: no idea? what's wrong with f2fs and nillfs2 used as flash friendly file systems?
[21:27]	TR News	Krita 5.1 Is Close to Final Release, RC1 Is Available for Testing http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167996#comment-34510
[21:27]	TR Bot	 First Release Candidate of Krita 5.1.0 is out | Tux Machines
[21:28]	XRevan86	ulf: Ye're just another Eastern German who hates GCC, believes in Atlantis, cares about TinyCC and NILFS2. Definitely a completely different person.
[21:28]	ulf	i am not an eastern german
[21:28]	XRevan86	Also builds an OS for an ARM device.
[21:28]	XRevan86	ulf: What's the name of that OS, by the way?
[21:28]	schestowitz[TR2]	ENIGMA
[21:29]	XRevan86	I was thinking "TotallyNotBaphometOS"
[21:29]	psydroid2	GuillotineOS
[21:29]	schestowitz[TR2]	he wants Putin to invades Poland and then Germany to liberate him from Merkel and her successor
[21:29]	schestowitz[TR2]	which is outright bizarre
[21:30]	schestowitz[TR2]	psydroid2: AggiOS
[21:30]	schestowitz[TR2]	Haggis
[21:31]	XRevan86	ulf: Ye caught me, this nickname never claimed to be Eastern in my memory, I was wondering if ye'd notice.
[21:32]	schestowitz[TR2]	merkel had her issues, but wanting putin over merkel inside germany is insane
[21:33]	ulf	???
[21:33]	schestowitz[TR2]	anyway, enough about politics
[21:33]	schestowitz[TR2]	it's what techpol exists for
[21:35]		*psydroid2 once walked on the Merkelstrasse
[21:53]	schestowitz[TR2]	state?
[21:53]	schestowitz[TR2]	ststen?
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[21:57]	TR News	Pine64's Pinebook Pro Linux laptop is finally shipping again http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167936#comment-34511
[21:57]	TR Bot	 Open source laptop PineBook Pro is shipping again | Tux Machines
[21:58]	TR News	Security updates for Thursday [LWN] https://lwn.net/Articles/903816/ Source: LWN | Kernel | Linux | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lwn.net/Articles/903816/
[21:58]	TR Bot	updates for Thursday [LWN.net]
[21:59]	TR News	</p></blockquote></li> xxxxxxxxxxx <li><h5><a href="https://lwn.net/Articles/903816/">Security updates for Thursday [LWN.net]</a></h5> <blockquote><p>Security up
[21:59]	TR News	NIST/NSA keep promoting fake crypto (back doors) https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/08/sike-broken.html
[21:59]	TR Bot	Broken - Schneier on Security
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[22:00]	ulf	meanwhile, trying to bootstrap gcc-4.7 with tinycc again... reached compilation phase, arm-tcc eating
[22:00]	schestowitz[TR2]	aggi does his own encryption
[22:00]	schestowitz[TR2]	in microsot shithub
[22:00]	schestowitz[TR2]	with nsa manipulating the code, binaries if so it wishes
[22:01]	schestowitz[TR2]	the security chieft at github?
[22:01]	schestowitz[TR2]	20-year NSA veteran
[22:01]	schestowitz[TR2]	that telle you something ^_^
[22:01]	schestowitz[TR2]	*tells
[22:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	I happen to agree with aggi that a lot of the hardware chain, software toolchains, and ciphers are compromised
[22:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	and have been for decades
[22:02]	ulf	btw... gcc-4.7 passed initial compilation with arm-tcc, to the point where it compiles itself with an intermediate xgcc binary emitted from arm-tcc ... looks good
[22:03]	schestowitz[TR2]	making a better cipher and hosting it in shithub, however, is dancing into the lion's cage
[22:03]	ulf	i mean, it's not complete to defend against "trust attack", because there is some important pieces missing elsewhere
[22:03]	schestowitz[TR2]	and if he's looking or better ciphers to spread nazi shit, then I don't condone that
[22:04]	ulf	alot of work remaining
[22:05]	schestowitz[TR2]	the end goal being what?
[22:05]	schestowitz[TR2]	cost?
[22:05]	schestowitz[TR2]	security?
[22:05]	schestowitz[TR2]	autonomy?
[22:05]	schestowitz[TR2]	better efficiency?
[22:05]	ulf	ideally, i can remove the entire GNU malware toolchain
[22:05]	TR News	Qubes OS 4.0 has reached EOL Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/168005 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/Qubes_OS_4_0_has_reached_EOL.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/Qubes_OS_4_0_has_reached_EOL.gmi
[22:05]	TR Bot	 Qubes OS 4.0 has reached EOL | Tux Machines
[22:05]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Qubes OS 4.0 has reached EOL
[22:05]	schestowitz[TR2]	ulf: alpine has no gnu toolchain by default
[22:05]	schestowitz[TR2]	you can add it
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[22:07]	TR News	Here lies the Data Protection Bill, 2021 https://internetfreedom.in/here-lies-the-data-protection-bill-2021/ Source: internetfreedom | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//internetfreedom.in/here-lies-the-data-protection-bill-2021/
[22:07]	TR Bot	 Here lies the Data Protection Bill, 2021
[22:07]	TR News	New subsystem for acceleration devices - Oded Gabbay https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CAFCwf11=9qpNAepL7NL+YAV_QO=Wv6pnWPhKHKAepK3fNn+2Dg@mail.gmail.com/
[22:07]	TR Bot	 New subsystem for acceleration devices - Oded Gabbay
[22:09]	ulf	schestowitz[TR2]: Mapple LLVM/clang is c++ malware too
[22:10]	TR News	Phoronix today: "Over the past year AMD has been hiring more on the client side for Linux improvements." Oh year... like Microsoft and Pluton? SHUTTING OUT LINUX? Preventing it from booting? Eat up your EPYC, Michael, with a side dish/beer labelled "Kool-Aid". You shill for Linux-hostile corporations to help sell defective, back-doored, inefficient chips.
[22:11]	ulf	both Mapple llvm and GNU toolchain are heavily pentagon vendor-locked
[22:11]	TR News	Thunderbird ISNT from 2003 anymore! - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=VFHLUPjmzgg | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/VFHLUPjmzgg
[22:11]	TR Bot	 Thunderbird ISN'T from 2003 anymore! - Invidious
[22:12]	TR News	Nala is a New Package Manager for Debian and Ubuntu - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=QD6J9sEejdw | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/QD6J9sEejdw
[22:12]	TR Bot	 Nala is a New Package Manager for Debian and Ubuntu - Invidious
[22:12]	AdmFubar	https://www.wilderssecurity.com/threads/bird-and-lime-scooters-sent-249-people-in-los-angeles-to-the-er-last-year.412583/
[22:12]	TR Bot	 Bird And Lime Scooters Sent 249 People In Los Angeles To The ER Last Year | Wilders Security Forums
[22:13]	TR News	"Lenovo's big Linux ambitions." Overcharging and BLOCKING IT FROM BOOTING??? https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/149452/linux-action-news-252/
[22:13]	TR Bot	 Linux Action News 252 | Jupiter Broadcasting
[22:18]	TR News	Running a Debuginfod server alongside pulp https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/running-debuginfod-server-alongside-pulp Source: Red Hat | ICBM | GNU | Linux | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.redhat.com/en/blog/running-debuginfod-server-alongside-pulp
[22:18]	TR Bot	 Running a Debuginfod server alongside pulp
[22:18]	AdmFubar	https://www.theregister.com/2022/08/04/cctv_exposure_tool/
[22:18]	TR Bot	 This open-source code measures your exposure to CCTV The Register
[22:19]	TR News	Tiny audience: "In July, we published 17 posts. The site had 5,500 visits from 3,548 unique viewers. 1,850 visits came from search engines, while 111 came from Twitter and 48 came from Phoronix." https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/community-blog-monthly-summary-july-2022/
[22:19]	TR Bot	 Community Blog monthly summary: July 2022 Fedora Community Blog
[22:21]	TR News	"Heres how to avoid getting 'nibbled to death by ducks'," says a person who petitioned to remove the founder of GNU/Linux and the FSF... from the FSF https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/8/it-leadership-best-advice-starting-new-role
[22:21]	TR Bot	 IT leadership: My best advice for starting a new role | The Enterprisers Project
[22:21]	psydroid2	https://lv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merea_iela_(Rga)
[22:21]	TR Bot	 Merea iela (Rga) Vikipdija
[22:21]	TR News	Once again transformation and "transformational CIO" as code for vendor lock-in https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/8/digital-transformation-how-guide-innovation-leaders
[22:21]	TR Bot	 Digital transformation: How to guide innovation leaders | The Enterprisers Project
[22:22]	psydroid2	https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_der_deutschsprachigen_Straennamen_in_Riga
[22:22]	TR Bot	 Liste der deutschsprachigen Straennamen in Riga Wikipedia
[22:24]	TR News	seeded snaps fail to launch after OEM install https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snapd/+bug/1983528
[22:24]	TR Bot	 Bug #1983528 seeded snaps fail to launch after OEM install : Bugs : snapd package : Ubuntu
[22:24]	psydroid2	Jim Duckherd
[22:25]	schestowitz[TR2]	i like his word
[22:25]	schestowitz[TR2]	and his articles
[22:25]	schestowitz[TR2]	but him signing the rms libel
[22:25]	schestowitz[TR2]	come on
[22:25]	schestowitz[TR2]	did he even check the facts?
[22:26]	schestowitz[TR2]	that's like me signing a bill gates petition
[22:26]	schestowitz[TR2]	saying he should resign
[22:26]	schestowitz[TR2]	for being a reptile or something
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[22:27]	DaemonFC	https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/261#comment-809506
[22:27]	TR Bot	#261: gnome-terminal -> gnome-console - fedora-workstation - Pagure.io
[22:27]	TR News	Kiwi TCMS - Kiwi TCMS 11.4 https://kiwitcms.org/blog/kiwi-tcms-team/2022/08/04/kiwi-tcms-114/ Source: kiwitcms | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//kiwitcms.org/blog/kiwi-tcms-team/2022/08/04/kiwi-tcms-114/
[22:27]	TR Bot	 Kiwi TCMS - Kiwi TCMS 11.4
[22:30]	TR News	This air cleaner activates when it hears shop tools running | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/08/04/this-air-cleaner-activates-when-it-hears-shop-tools-running/ Source: Arduino | Hardware | OpenHardware | Hacking | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.arduino.cc/2022/08/04/this-air-cleaner-activates-when-it-hears-shop-tools-running/
[22:30]	TR Bot	 This air cleaner activates when it hears shop tools running | Arduino Blog
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[22:31]	TR News	GitGuardian launches ggcanary project to help detect open-source software risks | CSO Online https://www.csoonline.com/article/3668193/gitguardian-launches-ggcanary-project-to-help-detect-open-source-software-risks.html Source: csoonline | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.csoonline.com/article/3668193/gitguardian-launches-ggcanary-project-to-help-detect-open-source-software-risks.htm
[22:31]	TR Bot	 GitGuardian launches ggcanary project to help detect open-source software risks | CSO Online
[22:33]	TR News	Keynote sold to Microsoft by the Linux Foundation, yet again, to promote proprietary software under the guise of "Diversity, Inclusion & Belonging Strategy" https://linuxfoundation.org/press-release/the-linux-foundation-announces-keynote-speakers-for-open-source-summit-europe-2022/
[22:33]	TR Bot	 The Linux Foundation Announces Keynote Speakers for Open Source Summit Europe 2022 - Linux Foundation
[22:35]	TR News	LF is not a joke. LF is very harmful. Harm is not amusing. http://techrights.org/wiki/Linux_Foundation
[22:35]	TR Bot	 Linux Foundation - Techrights
[22:35]	TR News	Ubuntu 22.04.1 delayed until August 11 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/168006 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/Ubuntu_22_04_1_delayed_until_August_11.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/Ubuntu_22_04_1_delayed_until_August_11.gmi
[22:35]	TR Bot	 Ubuntu 22.04.1 delayed until August 11 | Tux Machines
[22:35]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Ubuntu 22.04.1 delayed until August 11
[22:35]	DaemonFC	I love how Microsoft crammed MSN (with stupid bots putting clickbait on it since they fired everyone) into the Windows 11 task bar and you can't remove it.
[22:35]	DaemonFC	It's like Microsoft took a shit that overflowed the toilet and called it Windows 11.
[22:35]	TR News	LF = corporate self-defence... from critics
[22:36]	AdmFubar	https://eclecticlight.co/2022/08/04/virtualisation-on-apple-silicon-macs-8-how-apple-limits-vms/
[22:36]	DaemonFC	They've had some really lousy GUIs, but this one is the worst.
[22:36]	TR Bot	 Virtualisation on Apple silicon Macs: 8 How Apple limits VMs The Eclectic Light Company
[22:36]	schestowitz[TR2]	DaemonFC: their market share is collapsing
[22:36]	DaemonFC	They waited for the shit that completely overflowed the toilet and crashes if it can't contact ad servers until mjg59_'s fake security finally locked you to Windows.
[22:36]	schestowitz[TR2]	they don't know what to do
[22:37]	schestowitz[TR2]	to stop the bleeding
[22:37]	schestowitz[TR2]	so they try to make us bleed too
[22:37]	schestowitz[TR2]	like Microsoft pelosi pandering in Taiwan
[22:37]	schestowitz[TR2]	to stir shit up
[22:37]	schestowitz[TR2]	as US empire collapses
[22:37]	schestowitz[TR2]	and China rises
[22:38]	schestowitz[TR2]	https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/08/04/us-debt/
[22:38]	TR Bot	Blog Archive You Know Your Economy Spins Out of Control When
[22:38]	techrights_guest|24	Hello. Great video post: Attacking BSD and Linux in Name of Security. I started moving backward in hardware some years ago now. The newest hardware in my house is 2014. Even so, there was quite a bit of adjustments needed to run Linux. All of the questionable settings are disabled, and every hardware platform is set to compatible IPO
[22:38]	techrights_guest|24	Achi. Prior I had 2017 (ish) hardware and these machines, were boarderline with controls. The bios was unreal, and previous controls I had in earlier models, were removed. M$ has been incrementally retaining ownership of the hardware in each "upgrade" cycle. This just brings it front and center, out in the open, not so obfuscated. In
[22:38]	schestowitz[TR2]	Donald Biden
[22:38]	techrights_guest|24	essence they are moving to now licence the use of the hardware and the software. With ownership of said hardware being retained by M$, as well as the software. So it becomes a lease rather than a buy situation.
[22:38]	schestowitz[TR2]	the end of US
[22:38]	schestowitz[TR2]	hi, <techrights_guest|24>
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[22:39]	schestowitz[TR2]	<techrights_guest|24> yes, this is true
[22:39]	schestowitz[TR2]	rental as a model
[22:39]	schestowitz[TR2]	but their sales are to OIEMs
[22:39]	schestowitz[TR2]	in bulk
[22:39]	schestowitz[TR2]	the clients are not PC users
[22:39]	schestowitz[TR2]	they are OEMs
[22:39]	schestowitz[TR2]	like Lenovo and Dell
[22:40]	TR News	Fedora / Red Hat / IBM Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/168007 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/Fedora_Red_Hat_IBM_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/Fedora_Red_Hat_IBM_Leftovers.gmi
[22:40]	TR Bot	 Fedora / Red Hat / IBM Leftovers | Tux Machines
[22:40]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Fedora / Red Hat / IBM Leftovers
[22:41]	psydruid	My latest general purpose hardware is from 2017
[22:41]	schestowitz[TR2]	we need to mboycott more OEMs
[22:41]	schestowitz[TR2]	to exert pressure
[22:41]	schestowitz[TR2]	like DaemonFC  did with Lenoivo over the years
[22:41]	schestowitz[TR2]	made them go bonkers
[22:41]	schestowitz[TR2]	foxconn also
[22:41]	psydruid	I've been postponing any hardware acquisitions after that
[22:41]	schestowitz[TR2]	they hate it when their name /reputation is harmed in the minds of millions
[22:42]	schestowitz[TR2]	costs them a lot
[22:42]	schestowitz[TR2]	like boycottnovell
[22:42]	DaemonFC	I doubt we'll collapse. We may slide into near irrelevance like the UK.
[22:42]	schestowitz[TR2]	cheaper to hire some linux programmers
[22:42]	schestowitz[TR2]	to fix their shit
[22:42]	schestowitz[TR2]	than to lose millions in slae
[22:42]	DaemonFC	With Bogus Johnson going from Homeless Spikes to making it illegal to sleep anywhere except some place you have money for.
[22:43]	DaemonFC	Most US states aren't as bad as Boris yet. Illinois law theoretically makes solving homelessness a priority for the state and says they can't be denied any rights due to their status.
[22:43]	psydruid	the only UEFI machines I have are my main laptop and a few other ones I was gifted or bought used to give me some time to stay afloat until alternatives emerged
[22:43]	DaemonFC	In reality, the Chicago police beat them and set all their things on fire.
[22:43]	DaemonFC	Very equal. The state tries hard to "solve" it.
[22:44]	DaemonFC	The truth is even in the worst of times, most people still have a job and want politicians to get the homeless away from them where they don't have to help or feel bad or get asked for change.
[22:44]	psydruid	Bonus Johnson is always the life of the Covid party
[22:45]	DaemonFC	Like California, where mjg59_ lives, which actually had a law making it a felony to bring a homeless person into the state.
[22:45]	DaemonFC	The Supreme Court struck it down in 1999.
[22:45]	DaemonFC	Then California tried to make sleeping in public illegal.
[22:45]	DaemonFC	That was more recent.
[22:45]	DaemonFC	Fucking assholes. It's a state of fucking assholes.
[22:46]	ulf	i thought he is an Irish person, this is what wikipedia notes
[22:46]	DaemonFC	I mean, every state has a lot of them, but California is like 99%.
[22:46]	DaemonFC	They're so stupid too.
[22:46]	DaemonFC	Dump billions of gallons of Lake Mead on almonds.
[22:46]	DaemonFC	"DAMN YOU CLIMATE CHANGE!"
[22:46]	DaemonFC	*bans cars*
[22:47]	DaemonFC	I think most people are ready to have California fall into the ocean.
[22:47]	DaemonFC	I just hope it waits until Nancy Pelosi is back visiting her constituents.
[22:47]	TR News	Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/168008 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/Security_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/Security_Leftovers.gmi
[22:47]	TR Bot	 Security Leftovers | Tux Machines
[22:47]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Security Leftovers
[22:47]	TR News	Shows/Videos: Linux Action News, Nala, and Thunderbird Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/168009 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/Shows_Videos_Linux_Action_News_Nala_and_Thunderbird.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/Shows_Videos_Linux_Action_News_Nala_and_Thunderbird.gmi
[22:47]	TR Bot	 Shows/Videos: Linux Action News, Nala, and Thunderbird | Tux Machines
[22:47]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Shows/Videos: Linux Action News, Nala, and Thunderbird
[22:48]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR2], I caught some flak on Facebook for my comments about Jackie Walorski dying in the car crash. I wrote what she did in Congress and said I'm not glad she's dead, but I am glad she won't be in Congress anymore.
[22:48]	DaemonFC	You know, the same comment the Cancel Stallman people went after him with. That one didn't really fly.
[22:48]	schestowitz[TR2]	sI remember
[22:48]	schestowitz[TR2]	yes, rms reused a statement
[22:49]	schestowitz[TR2]	from a mayor iirc
[22:49]	schestowitz[TR2]	about steve jobs
[22:49]	DaemonFC	Richard J. Daley (Chicago)
[22:49]	schestowitz[TR2]	ok
[22:49]	schestowitz[TR2]	it's a good comment
[22:49]	schestowitz[TR2]	or pattern of comment
[22:49]	schestowitz[TR2]	not glad... dead
[22:49]	schestowitz[TR2]	glad... gone
[22:49]	DaemonFC	I would have been just as happy about the not in Congress part if she had just lost an election or resigned.
[22:49]	DaemonFC	Any intelligent person can see what you meant.
[22:49]	schestowitz[TR2]	http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7487060.stm
[22:49]	TR Bot	 BBC NEWS | Technology | It's not the Gates, it's the bars
[22:50]	schestowitz[TR2]	By Richard Stallman 
[22:50]	schestowitz[TR2]	iirc, that was before epstein's buddy satarted bribing bbc
[22:50]	schestowitz[TR2]	not bbc will go after rms
[22:50]	schestowitz[TR2]	not let rms speak
[22:51]	DaemonFC	She twice voted to keep Trump from being impeached, and then wrote to the Supreme Court urging them to allow Texas to invade Pennsylvania using the court system, and overturn their election.
[22:51]	DaemonFC	So I'm very pleased she won't be in Congress.
[22:51]	schestowitz[TR2]	afair point
[22:51]	schestowitz[TR2]	FB unhappy?
[22:51]	schestowitz[TR2]	then f facebook
[22:51]	schestowitz[TR2]	it's not a govt.
[22:51]	DaemonFC	She didn't deserve to be there.
[22:53]	TR News	HydraUSB3 RISC-V MCU board combines USB 3.0 with HSPI and SerDes high-speed interfaces - CNX Software https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/08/04/hydrausb3-risc-v-mcu-board-combines-usb-3-0-with-hspi-and-serdes-high-speed-interfaces/ Source: Linux | GNU | Hardware
[22:53]	TR Bot	 HydraUSB3 RISC-V MCU board combines USB 3.0 with HSPI and SerDes high-speed interfaces - CNX Software
[22:53]	schestowitz[TR2]	DaemonFC: at least you didn';t say she deserved to be 65 feet under
[22:53]	schestowitz[TR2]	typo
[22:53]	schestowitz[TR2]	but a funny typo
[22:54]	DaemonFC	Trump was 65 feet under, in a bunker, when he called the Governors weak during the riots.
[22:54]	schestowitz[TR2]	BB
[22:54]	schestowitz[TR2]	BiBi
[22:54]	schestowitz[TR2]	Bunker Bitch
[22:54]	schestowitz[TR2]	what MinceR calls him
[22:55]	TR News	"One easy thing that we can do to help the poor developer that needs to find what changed in the code that stopped their printer to work properly, is to keep the project bisectable." https://andrealmeid.com/post/2022-07-31-keep-bisect/
[22:55]	TR Bot	 Keeping a project bisectable | tony is coding
[22:56]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR2], You can get away with insulting someone on Facebook and not being banned for it. If you delete it before they complain and the system "reviews it", then you're fine.
[22:56]	DaemonFC	https://wgntv.com/news/trending/cracker-barrel-responds-after-facebook-post-about-plant-based-meat-causes-online-uproar/
[22:56]	TR Bot	 Cracker Barrel responds after Facebook post about plant-based meat causes online uproar | WGN-TV
[22:56]	DaemonFC	The NEWS!
[22:56]	DaemonFC	UPROAR OVER FAKE NASTY MEAT!
[22:57]	DaemonFC	https://thehill.com/homenews/news/538991-bill-gates-rich-nations-should-move-to-100-percent-synthetic-beef/
[22:57]	schestowitz[TR2]	News orgs: FB kills us
[22:57]	TR Bot	 Bill Gates: Rich nations should move to 100 percent synthetic beef | The Hill
[22:57]	DaemonFC	I had a triple whopper today.
[22:57]	DaemonFC	I know I shouldn't, but om nom nom.
[22:57]	techrights_guest|24	"sales are oems" I agree with this, and certainly PC users can pick and choose their own parts, the problem comes when the parts manufcaturers get some kind of price cut for falling in line. There are alot of choices still for hardware, It is my hope it will not flow downhill to the PC parts market. Still, if adopted creates yet another
[22:57]	techrights_guest|24	barrier. I work quite a bit with BSD, and I do not think I could tolerate a peice of hardware that does not allow the install of an OS of my choosing. People who love computing, do their own builds. People who need one to just get by, are on oems, so it makes sense for M$ to target oems, they arent the tech savy, and by just building in that
[22:57]	techrights_guest|24	one barrier, it creates high probablility those users would never make the jump to linux. ever. They dont need to make a barrier for the tech savy, they just lock out the people who "might make the jump" . I think They are making this move to capture the would be converts.
[22:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	also news orgs: let's write "articles" about what hillbillies say in FB, pretend it's news 
[22:58]	AdmFubar	https://www.techdirt.com/2022/08/04/please-dont-normalize-copyright-as-a-tool-for-censorship/
[22:58]	TR Bot	Dont Normalize Copyright As A Tool For Censorship | Techdirt
[22:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	or trademarks
[22:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	see Debian :-)
[22:58]	DaemonFC	"Synthetic meat" is pretty gross.
[22:58]	DaemonFC	It's also not healthier than real meat.
[22:59]	DaemonFC	It's a sodium bomb that doesn't have any B vitamins.
[22:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	<techrights_guest|24> yes, exactly
[22:59]	DaemonFC	The Impossible Whopper patties have twice as much salt in them as real Whopper patties. They have to put a ton of salt in the fake burgers because otherwise they taste like cardboard.
[22:59]	DaemonFC	They don't want to spend money flavoring them with something more expensive than salt, so SALT SALT SALT.
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[23:00]	DaemonFC	Very "healthy" much green.
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[23:01]	DaemonFC	Real burgers taste okay without a lot of salt on them. You can sprinkle some on to enhance flavor that's already there. When you do "synthetic meat" you start on the penalty line. It tastes like cardboard.
[23:01]	DaemonFC	Nobody would eat it like that.
[23:01]	DaemonFC	I bought some "Jimmy Dean Plant Based Breakfast Sandwiches" and they tasted so bad I nearly vomited.
[23:01]	schestowitz[TR2]	DaemonFC: depends
[23:02]	DaemonFC	Vegans are on there going "OMG SO TASTY!!!!".,
[23:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	maybe the ones you allude to aren't the proper ones
[23:02]	DaemonFC	Err, vegetarians rather.
[23:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	but the synthetic crap
[23:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	you could get veg-based patties
[23:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	based on mushrooms and condiments
[23:02]	DaemonFC	Vegans are complaining about egg and cheese, which is the only part of the sandwich (along with the english muffin) I didn't throw in the trash.
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[23:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	there's a new shop near us where they sell vegaaaan burgers
[23:03]	schestowitz[TR2]	I did not check the price
[23:03]	schestowitz[TR2]	looked from the outside only, 2 days ago..
[23:03]	ulf	just wanted to ask
[23:03]	psydruid	My mom is a GNU/Linux user, so I will always make sure to find her some hardware that works with the operating system
[23:03]	ulf	because this is the reason i avoid the vegan food: price
[23:03]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR2], YES!!!! OMG YES!! There's a place over in Vernon Hills that has a "burger" that's a mushroom patty.
[23:03]	DaemonFC	And they actually made it taste okay.
[23:03]	schestowitz[TR2]	we buy some discounted
[23:03]	DaemonFC	They need to do that instead of Bill's ground up cardboard.
[23:04]	schestowitz[TR2]	like less than half price
[23:04]	phanes	vegan food kills way more animals than the meat industry does
[23:04]	schestowitz[TR2]	rianne stocks them up in the freezer
[23:04]	schestowitz[TR2]	phanes: insects
[23:04]	DaemonFC	https://wgntv.com/news/former-mcdonalds-employees-ignoring-subpoenas-in-fight-for-15-surveillance-investigation-labor-board-says/
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[23:04]	DaemonFC	"Last week, the NLRB asked a federal judge in Chicago to enforce two subpoenas sent last March to Kristen Stewart-Gibbs and Carsten Frank, former members of McDonalds Global Intelligence Team."
[23:04]	DaemonFC	Yeah, shitty low wage employers all have their own KGB.
[23:05]	DaemonFC	Walmart has one.
[23:05]	DaemonFC	It's called "Labor Relations Hotline".
[23:05]	phanes	i never understood why people would choose to eat only food that costs more life and pain to create than meat at the cost of their own health
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[23:06]	phanes	some people are more genetically disposed for high meat diets too so it could dramatically decrease quality of life while seriously curtailing longevity
[23:06]	schestowitz[TR2]	flowers too are living things
[23:06]	phanes	in my case i could subsist almost perpetually just shy of ketosis and stay in good health, it's bread that kills people with my profile
[23:06]	schestowitz[TR2]	people are elective ion what they deem pain
[23:07]	schestowitz[TR2]	*selective
[23:07]	schestowitz[TR2]	some decided fish don't feel pain
[23:07]	schestowitz[TR2]	like when they suffocate to death very slowly
[23:07]	phanes	im okay with my food experiencing pain
[23:07]	schestowitz[TR2]	phanes: why don't you eat your dog?
[23:07]	phanes	because he's not food
[23:08]	phanes	if i were in a survival situation and he was the only accessible meat i would seriously consider eating him though
[23:08]	schestowitz[TR2]	and a deer is?
[23:08]	phanes	well sure
[23:08]	schestowitz[TR2]	oh dear
[23:09]	phanes	anything that's meat is food technically, but some meat is more preferred than others
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[23:10]	phanes	i'd consider eating you in a donner party scenario too
[23:10]	phanes	im just saying, if it's eat or die, im gonna eat something i dont want to eat
[23:10]	schestowitz[TR2]	like argentine rugby players
[23:10]	phanes	especially argentine rugby players
[23:11]	phanes	high protein content
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[23:15]	DaemonFC	<schestowitz[TR2]> and a deer is?
[23:15]	DaemonFC	I've eaten deer.
[23:15]	DaemonFC	My uncle in Georgia doesn't really have much money and never has. He got his house down there before hipsters moved to the area and drove up the property values.
[23:16]	phanes	i think probably the only meat i would not eat is insect
[23:16]	DaemonFC	He hunts for food.
[23:16]	DaemonFC	I thought it was funny how many renovations he did on his house.
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[23:16]	DaemonFC	It caught the attention of the county and they wanted to come in and inspect and he told them if they didn't have a warrant to get off his property.
[23:17]	DaemonFC	They never brought it up again. A suspicion that someone has done stuff to their house without declaring it (permitting, taxes, etc) is not sufficient to get a warrant, which is why they were out there asking to come in.
[23:17]	DaemonFC	I suppose that's what schestowitz[TR2] was talking about with TV License.
[23:17]	phanes	the law will never ask for something they don't need to.  if they're asking the answer's no.
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[23:18]	DaemonFC	BINGO!
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[23:18]	DaemonFC	If the police are ASKING to come in, it means they don't have a warrant.
[23:18]	DaemonFC	If they had a warrant, they'd just kick the door down to begin with.
[23:18]	DaemonFC	There's damage to the door frame on my apartment.
[23:18]	phanes	same thing when they pull you over in a terry stop and ask you where you're headed.  "i dont answer questions"
[23:18]	DaemonFC	Guessing the police had a warrant on someone and weren't asking.
[23:19]	DaemonFC	They don't pay for the damages. You have to sue them about it later if they kicked the door down and didn't actually find anything illegal that they had described in their search warrant application.
[23:20]	DaemonFC	Yeah. They don't need to know where you're going.
[23:20]	DaemonFC	They're only asking it because they want to know everything in case it becomes interesting (incriminating) at some point along the way.
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[23:21]	phanes	im just not big on most cops
[23:21]	DaemonFC	phanes, The police pulled over my first ex's cousin for just driving around without a destination.
[23:21]	phanes	they need to screen like 9 out of 10 out
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[23:21]	DaemonFC	It turned out that "indirect route" is something they can charge you with as an infraction in Indiana.
[23:21]	phanes	one of the most dangerous things in the world is a coward with a gun
[23:22]	DaemonFC	So admitting you're out driving around for no reason is admitting that you're committing an infraction, which they can then fine you for.
[23:22]	phanes	and when they're running around killing people out of fear for their life, even in dangerous situations, they're cowards
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[23:22]	phanes	we can't give them credit for valor unless they actually exhibit that valor
[23:24]	DaemonFC	When you're dealing with a cop sticking his head in your car and asking you questions, you have no way of knowing where this is heading.
[23:24]	phanes	shooting someone "because you thought they had a gun" is an act of cowardice
[23:24]	DaemonFC	He's not asking them because he just wants to waste his time and chit chat.
[23:24]	DaemonFC	Therefore, he's asking them because he wants to do something with the information, and whatever he does with it is unlikely to be good for you.
[23:25]	phanes	we have sent millions of armed service members into battle with clear rules of engagement that they were able to respect even while /live mortar was being dropped on them/ and if those guys can do it so can the police
[23:25]	DaemonFC	So, you should just hand him your license, registration, and insurance, and then tell him you're sorry but you can't answer any questions at this time.
[23:25]	phanes	and if they can't do that
[23:25]	phanes	then maybe they're too much of a coward to be issued a firearm by the pd
[23:25]	DaemonFC	Be polite, but don't answer any questions. License, registration, insurance. Sorry, but I can't answer any questions at this time.
[23:25]	phanes	nothing more dangerous than a coward with a gun
[23:26]	DaemonFC	Nothing you say convinces the cop whether or not to issue a citation.
[23:26]	DaemonFC	He made up his mind when he started following you.
[23:26]	DaemonFC	You're either getting one or you're not. Unless you piss him off, but saying "I'm sorry but I cannot answer any questions at this time." is not a personal insult or anything.
[23:28]	DaemonFC	If a cop is being completely honest, they'll admit that nobody has ever talked their way out of an arrest or a citation.
[23:28]	DaemonFC	They have talked their way into one or into a jail cell.
[23:28]	DaemonFC	There are factors inside and outside your control. If they are going to cite/arrest, they'll do that. Arming them with more information to hand to the prosecutor makes it worse.
[23:29]	DaemonFC	The longer you talk, the more likely it is you'll tell them something they don't know. Or confirm something they suspected, and can now prove.
[23:30]	DaemonFC	There is now zero chance you'll ever get it dismissed in court.
[23:30]	DaemonFC	That's why they ask if you know why they pulled you over.
[23:30]	DaemonFC	"I was speeding."
[23:30]	DaemonFC	Cop: "He said he was speeding. He admitted it. What are we even doing here?"
[23:30]	DaemonFC	Judge: "GUILTY!"
[23:32]	DaemonFC	Most people can't keep their mouth shut.
[23:32]	DaemonFC	The cops know that.
[23:32]	DaemonFC	They use it.
[23:32]	DaemonFC	The guilty try to explain their way out of it and can't keep their story straight, or they feel bad about something and they just flat out admit it.
[23:33]	DaemonFC	The people who are not guilty talk, and they get steered into making incriminating statements by a cop who wants to go home and eat dinner.
[23:33]	DaemonFC	Only a few people don't say anything at all.
[23:34]	DaemonFC	In the US system, the cop can't get on the stand and try to imply that not talking to them means you're hiding something. The judge won't allow it.
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[23:35]	DaemonFC	The UK system police warning says that if you don't speak to the police and your defense later hinges on something you could have said, you may not be able to use that defense.
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[23:35]	DaemonFC	It's nasty.
[23:35]	DaemonFC	In the US system, you can keep quiet and put forth any defense you want to later.
[23:35]	DaemonFC	You have nothing to gain trying to beg a cop who just arrested you for something, or who may arrest you.
[23:36]	DaemonFC	They already decided. They're not going to change their mind and get back into the computer and cancel the arrest and go "He said he didn't do it!".
[23:36]	schestowitz[TR2]	juust keep away
[23:36]	schestowitz[TR2]	out of their sight
[23:37]	schestowitz[TR2]	nothing to be ghained when
[23:37]	schestowitz[TR2]	the cops see anyone has a potential criminal
[23:37]	schestowitz[TR2]	or potential witness
[23:37]	schestowitz[TR2]	if you become a witness
[23:37]	schestowitz[TR2]	then the criminals might want to "get even"
[23:38]	schestowitz[TR2]	the cops' job is to solve crimes 
[23:38]	schestowitz[TR2]	not yours
[23:38]	schestowitz[TR2]	don't become their volunteers/slave
[23:38]	DaemonFC	Yeah, it's better to say you didn't hear or see anything and you wish you could be more of a help. It's sad though.
[23:38]	DaemonFC	In the big picture, everyone loses.
[23:39]	schestowitz[TR2]	yeah
[23:39]	schestowitz[TR2]	esp. if they don't protect sources
[23:39]	DaemonFC	That's the fastest way to get rid of the cop. "I didn't see or hear anything. I wish I could be more of a help.".
[23:39]	schestowitz[TR2]	nobody will trust them
[23:39]	schestowitz[TR2]	or speak to them
[23:40]	DaemonFC	Because if they arrest that guy that was out there dragging his girlfriend through the hall by her hair, and then the judge lets him out with no bail....it's Illinois.....
[23:40]	DaemonFC	He can pick up his gun that he doesn't have a FOID card for, and shoot you with it.
[23:40]	DaemonFC	He may be arrested again, but you're dead.
[23:41]	DaemonFC	These people don't put a lot of thought into what they're doing. They're criminals.
[23:41]	DaemonFC	They fuck and they make more criminals and they're in and out of prison.
[23:41]	DaemonFC	It's what they do.
[23:42]	DaemonFC	The reason that they get caught all the time is because they're too stupid to evaluate whether the payoff is large enough and likely enough to not be punished to be worth the risk.
[23:42]	DaemonFC	And because they don't plan 5 minutes after the crime.
[23:43]	DaemonFC	When the cops tell them to get on the ground, they point a gun at them or run and then the whole neighborhood is on fire because of what ANYONE could tell you was going to happen next.
[23:44]	DaemonFC	https://www.findlaw.com/traffic/traffic-tickets/distracted-driving.html
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[23:44]	DaemonFC	If you tell the cop "I was adjusting my radio and didn't see the other car." then you've admitted to a crime.
[23:44]	DaemonFC	Adjusting the radio is "being distracted by an electronic device".
[23:45]	DaemonFC	They can't prove you were adjusting the radio at the time of the accident.
[23:45]	DaemonFC	Unless you tell them that's what you were doing.
[23:46]	DaemonFC	When I was a young driver, something came on the radio I didn't like, and I looked over to adjust the knob and crashed into the back of a semi truck.
[23:46]	DaemonFC	The trucking company filed bankruptcy the next day and so there wasn't a trucking company anymore to complain that I hit their truck.
[23:47]	DaemonFC	And the driver never complained or filed a claim because he got shit canned and it was a truck belonging to a liquidated company that was in bankruptcy court anyway.
[23:47]	MinceR	you crashed them right into bankruptcy?
[23:47]	DaemonFC	I just happened to crash into their company truck the day before they filed for bankruptcy.
[23:48]	DaemonFC	So the police went to investigate the accident and there was suddenly nobody complaining about me.
[23:48]	DaemonFC	That was like 2001 I think.
[23:49]	DaemonFC	I was pretty pissed that I needed a new hood, but the insurance company never heard about that, and the court couldn't make the ticket stick because the cop didn't write down the driver's name and then the 800 number he gave them was dead and there was no company to tell them who was driving the truck.
[23:50]	DaemonFC	The ticket had the trucking company's name and 800 number on it under the victim information section.
[23:51]	DaemonFC	So I went to traffic court and nobody else came and I pleaded not guilty and the prosecutor dismissed the ticket.
[23:51]	DaemonFC	I've had warnings and dismissed tickets.
[23:51]	DaemonFC	But I've never had one stick.
[23:52]	DaemonFC	Except for a seatbelt violation, but that was $15 an in Indiana law, that's a non-moving violation.
[23:52]	DaemonFC	So the insurance company can't do anything with it.
[23:52]	DaemonFC	I had some unpaid parking tickets, but those were campus police and I wasn't a student there, so they had nothing to hold over me if I didn't pay them.
[23:53]	DaemonFC	They never tell you the only thing they can do if you don't pay is withhold your transcripts if you're a student there.
[23:53]	DaemonFC	So I dropped them a note in the mail that said "Not a student. :)"
[23:54]	DaemonFC	They wanted like $70 per ticket (2003) and I had three of them by that time. 
[23:54]	DaemonFC	I got a parking ticket once.
[23:54]	DaemonFC	I parked in a two hour spot for 8 months before anyone noticed.
[23:55]	DaemonFC	I was renting an apartment that didn't have dedicated parking, and it was attached to a bank.
[23:55]	DaemonFC	So I just parked it in a two hour spot intended for the bank.
[23:55]	DaemonFC	8 months later, the city noticed and wrote me a parking ticket for $5 because that's how things were in small towns in Indiana back then.
[23:55]	DaemonFC	So I paid the ticket at the town hall.
[23:56]	DaemonFC	For the next 4 months, I parked my car in an abandoned cafe's parking lot until I got a note asking me not to park there anymore.
[23:57]	DaemonFC	So at that point, I started parking my car at a city lot.
[23:58]	DaemonFC	They had one that was $5 a month, so I paid it, and then I scanned it into my computer and changed the expiration date and kept printing one out with a new month on it and sticking it on my dashboard.
[23:58]	DaemonFC	The police never figured it out.
[23:59]	DaemonFC	Instead of using parking garages, I usually just leave the car at a busy supermarket or Walmart store for the day.
[23:59]	DaemonFC	That way they think I'm just in thee shopping.
[23:59]	DaemonFC	*there