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| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: And they wonder why Penneys went bankrupt. | Sep 04 00:13 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz__: I ran into something new at the grocery store today. | Sep 04 00:14 |
| Narrator | re | Sep 04 00:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Bacon in "irregular slices". Mom said they used to sell that in the late 70s. | Sep 04 00:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I grabbed some. Walmart selling it for $2.98 a pound. | Sep 04 00:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Regular slices are like $5-6 now. | Sep 04 00:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I guess they used to sell it because of bad economy. What do they normally do with it? I doubt it goes to waste. | Sep 04 00:18 |
| *Narrator have country sausages in a shop near my home;-) | Sep 04 00:18 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Guessing they sell it to restaurants or something. | Sep 04 00:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Arbys gets cheap bacon to dice up on a potato or something. | Sep 04 00:18 |
| thddx | kind of like pork belly? | Sep 04 00:19 |
| MinceR | how does it end up "irregular" in the first place? | Sep 04 00:19 |
| Narrator | yummy:) | Sep 04 00:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They run it through the slicing machine and they get the wrong thickness or it's half a slice or something like that. | Sep 04 00:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Who cares? It's bacon. Otherwise it's the same as any other bacon. Just cheaper. | Sep 04 00:20 |
| thddx | yeah, form is irrelevant | Sep 04 00:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Guessing this has something to do with the collapse of restaurants creating an oversupply and Walmart stepped up to bid on it. | Sep 04 00:21 |
| Narrator | bacon with cancer chemicals or bacon without cancer chemicals ... who cares ... | Sep 04 00:39 |
| MinceR | mmm, cancer chemicals | Sep 04 00:44 |
| Narrator | https://twitter.com/StrongerStabler/status/1295621466084515847 | Sep 04 00:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@StrongerStabler: A US trade deal will require UK to lower food standards...it would allow 11 rat hairs per 50g of cinnamon, 20 maggo… https://t.co/145a8YgL6m | Sep 04 00:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@StrongerStabler: A US trade deal will require UK to lower food standards...it would allow 11 rat hairs per 50g of cinnamon, 20 maggo… https://t.co/145a8YgL6m | Sep 04 00:44 | |
| Narrator | or GMO ... | Sep 04 00:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/paying-sold-debt/ | Sep 04 00:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.snopes.com | Don't Pay Them a Dime! | Sep 04 00:46 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | I challenge everything, except all those accounts that went to bankruptcy. | Sep 04 00:46 |
| Narrator | it's all food | Sep 04 00:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Usually for small dollar stuff, they don't have the time or will to validate information. | Sep 04 00:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I've generally had about a 90% success rate in removing debts from my own credit report and others. | Sep 04 00:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If it's old and/or relatively small, start there. | Sep 04 00:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Get rid of all the small dollar stuff so you can get like 7 collection accounts down to like 2. | Sep 04 00:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This has another bonus. | Sep 04 00:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Some of those small dollar collections are probably more recent than the bigger ones anyway. | Sep 04 00:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So clearing them off your report fixes part of the problem and may cut the time left before your credit is clean again by half. | Sep 04 00:49 |
| Narrator | https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/6578143-students-who-acquire-large-debts-putting-themselves-through-school-are | Sep 04 00:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.goodreads.com | Quote by Noam Chomsky: “Students who acquire large debts putting themse...” | Sep 04 00:49 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Not bothering to pay small dollar stuff and just challenging it and letting it fall off frees up money, and although they could legally sue, most companies don't sue over a few hundred bucks. | Sep 04 00:51 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Don't ever respond to anything they send you. If they call you, hang up. | Sep 04 00:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If it's been 10 years and they say you owe them a medical bill from 2008 and they doubled it with "interest", laugh and toss it in the trash. | Sep 04 00:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's legally bogus at that point. What they're trying to do is get you to panic with a huge balance that they made up and call/write and accidentally reaffirm the debt. | Sep 04 00:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | if you reaffirm it, it gives them another 5 years to sue. | Sep 04 00:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's iffy as to whether the judge will allow the "interest", but they could. | Sep 04 00:54 |
| schestowitz__ | http://status.fedoraproject.org/ | Sep 04 00:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-status.fedoraproject.org | Fedora Infrastructure - Status | Sep 04 00:56 | |
| schestowitz__ | "Service 'Koschei Continuous Integration' now has status: major: Koschei frontend is down" | Sep 04 00:56 |
| schestowitz__ | Lots of Fedora services downtimes these past few days... | Sep 04 00:56 |
| Narrator | like Aaron ... | Sep 04 00:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Gotta migrate it to Amazon. | Sep 04 00:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They can't host on their own products anymore. | Sep 04 00:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Nobody at IBM wants to send a message of confidence in Red Hat products. | Sep 04 00:57 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | There was a point where Apple got caught hosting their site on Red Hat Enterprise Linux and then once the stories broke, they changed it to "OS X Server". | Sep 04 00:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Who knows if that was real or not (the agent), but it was funny. | Sep 04 00:58 |
| Narrator | microsoft used linux proxies soem time ago ... | Sep 04 00:59 |
| Narrator | i don;t remember which distribution ... | Sep 04 00:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | At one point, Microsoft changed from FreeBSD to Windows 2000 servers and Hotmail went down. | Sep 04 00:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Big embarrassment, had to roll it back. | Sep 04 00:59 |
| Narrator | i mean reverse proxies | Sep 04 01:00 |
| MinceR | (cat) https://ircz.de/p/20012432 | Sep 04 01:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4305733) | Sep 04 01:00 | |
| schestowitz__ | Ariadne: can viera be restored? | Sep 04 01:02 |
| schestowitz__ | [00:57] <DaemonFC[m]> Gotta migrate it to Amazon. | Sep 04 01:02 |
| schestowitz__ | Not sure this was the reason this time | Sep 04 01:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz__: Mandy thinks I'm crazy because before I exit Walmart, I use enough of their hand sanitizer to wet down everything from my fingernail tips to hanfway up my arms. | Sep 04 01:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm a nail biter and I've never been able to break the habit. | Sep 04 01:03 |
| schestowitz__ | cut them often | Sep 04 01:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So I go through hand sanitizer like crazy. | Sep 04 01:03 |
| schestowitz__ | then there's nothing left to bite | Sep 04 01:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I heard covering them in bandaids worked. | Sep 04 01:04 |
| Narrator | it's nervous | Sep 04 01:04 |
| MinceR | 04 015736 < DaemonFC[m]> Nobody at IBM wants to send a message of confidence in Red Hat products. | Sep 04 01:04 |
| MinceR | lol | Sep 04 01:04 |
| MinceR | IBM.® Don't Use Our Products -- They're Crap.™ | Sep 04 01:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Another Night at the Museum movie on AMC. | Sep 04 01:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Reporter: "New York's glitterati have all gathered here.....". | Sep 04 01:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Me: Too soon. Too soon. | Sep 04 01:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm really surprised that rich people would want to live in a big city with lots of crime in the first place. | Sep 04 01:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's like, you know what's going to happen. | Sep 04 01:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Every time there's a recession, you know what's going to happen. | Sep 04 01:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | We've just never had a mayor in Chicago who was this stupid before. | Sep 04 01:07 |
| Narrator | poor doing the crime, it's wrong:) | Sep 04 01:09 |
| Narrator | i remember some reserach that the poor do crime on poor and rich on rich | Sep 04 01:10 |
| Narrator | it's sociological problem | Sep 04 01:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Bernie Madoff and Pharma Jerk found out what happens when you go after rich people. | Sep 04 01:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The government would have let him keep on trolling people dying because he raised drug prices 8,000%, but when he committed securities fraud, they moved right in on him. | Sep 04 01:11 |
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| Narrator | ok, time to sleep | Sep 04 01:12 |
| Narrator | see you later | Sep 04 01:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Message sent. You steal from millions of poor people, kill them...nothing happens. | Sep 04 01:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You rip off some rich people, they make an example. | Sep 04 01:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I keep hearing the Republicans say they don't like welfare because it enables people to sit on their ass and wait for a check each month from people who work. | Sep 04 01:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I say, "No that's landlords.". | Sep 04 01:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I mean, think about it. If your landlords have been like mine, they hire out for repairs because they don't know how to do anything. They pay lawyers to handle their business stuff, accountants to do their taxes. | Sep 04 01:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's if they even send someone to repair anything. Many don't. | Sep 04 01:15 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | It's finally a bad year to be a landlord, and that's a first. | Sep 04 01:16 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Normally it's just free money for ripping off poor people and then suing them if they move out too soon. | Sep 04 01:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | None of these idiots have anything saved because they just assumed it would never stop. | Sep 04 01:17 |
| MinceR | 04 020620 < DaemonFC[m]> I'm really surprised that rich people would want to live in a big city with lots of crime in the first place. | Sep 04 01:19 |
| MinceR | unreasonable attraction to crowds | Sep 04 01:19 |
| MinceR | 04 021357 < DaemonFC[m]> You rip off some rich people, they make an example. | Sep 04 01:19 |
| MinceR | maybe they can make an example of crApple and the german car industry, then? | Sep 04 01:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | On Mastodon: | Sep 04 01:24 |
| *DaemonFC[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/HliRRsmuNTKmkgePZtkJZpvx/message.txt > | Sep 04 01:24 | |
| Ariadne | schestowitz__: yes, when lets encrypt rate limits cool off | Sep 04 01:34 |
| Ariadne | schestowitz__: unfortunately, the lets encrypt client i was using for that container quit working correctly. so i have had to switch clients. | Sep 04 01:35 |
| Ariadne | [17:57:36] <DaemonFC[m]> Nobody at IBM wants to send a message of confidence in Red Hat products. | Sep 04 01:36 |
| Ariadne | it is funny, they recently ramped up their team working on alpine again | Sep 04 01:36 |
| Ariadne | i guess IBM is not happy with their purchase | Sep 04 01:37 |
| Ariadne | or it was a leadership acquihire | Sep 04 01:37 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/80.0/releasenotes/ | Sep 04 02:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mozilla.org | Firefox 80.0, See All New Features, Updates and Fixes | Sep 04 02:14 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Firefox 80 is almost a no change rebuild of Firefox 79. | Sep 04 02:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The result of sackings and low morale. | Sep 04 02:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <MinceR "maybe they can make an example o"> That's self abuse. | Sep 04 02:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Maricel was in the Waukegan Walmart the other day filling up her own water bottles. | Sep 04 02:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Guessing something happened to their income. People live beyond their means in good times and still manage to overextend, but the paychecks keep the minimum amounts going in. | Sep 04 02:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So it doesn't all fall apart right away. | Sep 04 02:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then the economy gets bad, pay is cut, or they lost jobs entirely. | Sep 04 02:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If you lose even some income at that point it's disastrous. | Sep 04 02:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | We have no debt so if Mandy's hours wobble a little it's not that big of a deal. | Sep 04 02:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But I'm also not a fucking idiot. I wear cheap clothes from Walmart until they're shot. | Sep 04 02:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I buy instant coffee and pour hot water and milk in it instead of paying $5 for it from a drive thru that's backed up 25 minutes. | Sep 04 02:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Even if I drink 2-3 cups, it's not even costing me 50 cents a day. | Sep 04 02:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Those expensive coffees really do add up. Starbucks once a day is at least $150 a month. | Sep 04 02:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's ridiculous. That's half of what I spend on groceries for two people. | Sep 04 02:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: So through Starbucks at the District Attorney too. :P | Sep 04 02:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | *throw | Sep 04 02:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Mandy really had no idea how a system of laws worked. | Sep 04 02:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He didn't know what the prosecution and the defense were. I had to explain it to him basically, as "Well, the prosecutor is trying to make you sound like Hitler. Your defense attorney is trying to make it sound like nothing ever happened or it was a misunderstanding or not much of a thing. Then the judge either makes a decision or presides over a jury, which has to sort it all out.". | Sep 04 02:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He's like really impressed that they make a jury trial out of misdemeanors here if you insist. | Sep 04 02:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It reminds me of that Yakov Smirnoff joke. "I love America. You have such nice things here, like warning shots!". | Sep 04 02:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You know, in some countries you have absolutely no rights the minute the cops want to cause trouble. They just beat it out of you, there is no court, and they throw 500 people into a holding cell with one toilet. | Sep 04 02:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's basically the Philippines from the sounds of it. | Sep 04 02:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Maricel got furious when I said, "Oh the last thing I want to do is send him back THERE and he's not even my brother. You should be ashamed of yourselves.". | Sep 04 02:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | We all know that there are definitely bad cops out there. Lots of them. | Sep 04 02:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But look at who is tearing up the cities and burning things and raping people. | Sep 04 02:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think that 9 times out of 10, probably, the guy really was reaching for a gun or did something stupid. | Sep 04 02:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Based on what I've observed. | Sep 04 02:34 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Galaxy Note 20 commercial | Sep 04 02:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I hope it doesn't break if you put the pen in backwards. | Sep 04 02:55 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Ferris Buehler's Day Off..... | Sep 04 04:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Hey, did you know that if we played by the rules, we'd be in gym class right now?" | Sep 04 04:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Cuts to kids running around a field. | Sep 04 04:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They made us do that. | Sep 04 04:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I just walked around while people lapped me. | Sep 04 04:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They gave me an F. The gym teacher asked if I knew what would happen if I failed gym class. | Sep 04 04:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I said absolutely nothing. | Sep 04 04:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/03/new-york-hedge-fund-founder-charged-with-fraud-over-neiman-marcus-bankruptcy.html | Sep 04 04:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnbc.com | New York hedge fund founder charged with fraud over Neiman Marcus bankruptcy | Sep 04 04:34 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz__: Bankruptcy fraud at a New York hedge fund pertaining to Needless Markup. | Sep 04 04:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | “Do you understand ... I can go to jail,” Kamensky was quoted as saying. | Sep 04 04:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | What a great thing to say on a recorded phone call. | Sep 04 04:38 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | “I honestly ... don’t want anything to do with this,” the employee responded. | Sep 04 05:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | “My position ... is going to be look, this was a huge misunderstanding,” Kamensky said. “They’re going to say that I abused my position as a fiduciary, which I probably did, right?” | Sep 04 05:12 |
| *DaemonFC[m] laughs | Sep 04 05:13 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | In a voluntary interview taken later under oath, Kamensky called his conversations with the employee a “terrible mistake” and “profound errors in lapses of judgment,” prosecutors said. | Sep 04 05:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | --- | Sep 04 05:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's where making false statements later comes in because something he told them is provably false. It happened to Martha Stewart. | Sep 04 05:14 |
| Chaekyung | not sure there is such a thing as a "voluntary" interview under oath | Sep 04 05:15 |
| Chaekyung | anyway, I re-posted an entire techrights article, never bothered to do that before. Hope ya'all are fine with it | Sep 04 05:16 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Ask Roy. :) | Sep 04 05:22 |
| Chaekyung | I'm sorry I don't have time | Sep 04 05:26 |
| oiaohm | Chaekyung: there is such thing as a voluntary interview under oath. It should mean if it being used correctly that the person brought themselves in for interview instead of being requested by police or other parties. | Sep 04 05:44 |
| oiaohm | Of course if police suspect crime is going to talked about in a interview they have to do it under oath. | Sep 04 05:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The police sometimes make "requests" when they already plan to arrest you. | Sep 04 05:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Softens people up. | Sep 04 05:47 |
| schestowitz__ | [05:16] <Chaekyung> anyway, I re-posted an entire techrights article, never bothered to do that before. Hope ya'all are fine with it | Sep 04 05:48 |
| schestowitz__ | it's ok | Sep 04 05:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz__: 318,000 by December 1st is the new IMHE projection. | Sep 04 05:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Remember when it was 64,000 by August 1st and then people basically stop dying? | Sep 04 05:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Me too. | Sep 04 05:52 |
| Chaekyung | lmao silly seasonal cold hysteria https://yoona.everdot.org/covid-sweden-2020-08-31.jpg | Sep 04 05:56 |
| Chaekyung | may I ask how no lockdowns, no facemasks, no measures, not a care in the world given, results in a spike in deaths and then a below 5 year average death-rate with between 0 and 1 daily "covid-related" deaths if it's such serious? | Sep 04 05:57 |
| Chaekyung | The only real concern I have is that I can't leave this country if I want to for some reason because the rest of the world's gone both insane and fully totalitarian | Sep 04 05:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I haven't been taking risks. My mom has already seen this shit turn two people inside out and kill someone else. | Sep 04 06:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Her church friends got it too. Not sure how sick they were. | Sep 04 06:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | She said they wouldn't talk to her when she stopped going there in person. | Sep 04 06:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They all got it and infected an entire factory in Indiana apparently. | Sep 04 06:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Like, a few of them worked there and they ended up having to shut the factory down. | Sep 04 06:01 |
| Chaekyung | The way I look at it is: They decided to shut the factory down. They didn't have to. We don't shut factories down if someone catches a cold and we're doing fine. | Sep 04 06:03 |
| Chaekyung | But I know it's very hard for people with lots of hysteria and draconian measures to grasp how we look at it from a country were everything's been normal this year | Sep 04 06:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Sweden has about the same number of deaths per capita as the US. | Sep 04 06:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Neither country had sufficient mitigations. | Sep 04 06:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Whenever the government did do something in the US, people just ignored it and spread the virus around anyway. | Sep 04 06:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | From what we know, we're no more of the way than 20% of the way in as far as number of people who have had it, and there's no evidence of sustained immunity. | Sep 04 06:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So this is a years long process. People are just getting it over and over again. | Sep 04 06:08 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Now, it could eventually turn into a cold, but we don't know. It's nastier than other Coronaviruses have ever been. | Sep 04 06:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Some people deal with a horrifying tragedy by refusing to admit it's really happening. I get that. | Sep 04 06:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's usually one of the first stages of being in shock. | Sep 04 06:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | At this point, the only people here who are still in denial are people who aren't all there in the head and wait for Trump to tell them what their opinion is. | Sep 04 06:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | We've got to find some way of reopening the economy while maintaining distancing and sanitary practices until there's some kind of legitimate vaccine. | Sep 04 06:12 |
| Chaekyung | lol | Sep 04 06:12 |
| Chaekyung | I see you've been subjected to a tad too much constant propaganda in your local media | Sep 04 06:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The government has been, frankly, awful in their response to this. | Sep 04 06:13 |
| Chaekyung | Consider this: Why would you need to "find some way of reopening" when we DID NOT CLOSE DOWN and we're doing fine? | Sep 04 06:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Instead of supporting households, the central bank and Congress were only worried about keeping the stock market going. | Sep 04 06:13 |
| Chaekyung | Also consider: Wouldn't there have been more dead in August than August prior years if it was serious? | Sep 04 06:13 |
| Chaekyung | Why are we _below_ 5 the year average death-rate? | Sep 04 06:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | In the US? | Sep 04 06:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The CDC takes months to collect data. | Sep 04 06:14 |
| Chaekyung | I don't know about the US | Sep 04 06:14 |
| Chaekyung | I do know that if you look at our figures we have fewer people dying, probably because we did have a spike in April | Sep 04 06:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | We're 260,000 over expected in the US and only 191,000 are confirmed COVID-19. | Sep 04 06:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | A lot of the rest is probably COVID-19 with no test and the state not following protocol. | Sep 04 06:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Guessing Sweden is probably lying. | Sep 04 06:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's probably worse than they'll admit. | Sep 04 06:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They admit it got very bad in nursing homes because you admit what you have to. | Sep 04 06:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But they screwed up and they're committed to the lie, so like Trump they want to cut testing and redefine what a "death" is. | Sep 04 06:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's a natural human tendency that when you fucked up bad and there's nothing you can do about it now, you minimize. | Sep 04 06:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You trivialize hundreds of thousands of preventable deaths. | Sep 04 06:18 |
| Chaekyung | I seriously doubt Sweden is fudging the death toll. And I don't care much about the 0-1 "covid" deaths per day. What I look at is the year over year monthly change | Sep 04 06:18 |
| schestowitz__ | Not everyone in Sweden has COVIV | Sep 04 06:18 |
| schestowitz__ | COVID | Sep 04 06:18 |
| schestowitz__ | in fact, few have it | Sep 04 06:18 |
| schestowitz__ | or confirmed to have it | Sep 04 06:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Maybe their public has been trying to slow it down, unlike here. | Sep 04 06:19 |
| schestowitz__ | they try to limit the spread | Sep 04 06:19 |
| schestowitz__ | with fewer lockdowns | Sep 04 06:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | 41% of the US population is so dumb they're having 250,000 person motorcycle rallies with no mask.. | Sep 04 06:19 |
| schestowitz__ | quarantine at offices | Sep 04 06:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So I mean, stuff like that. | Sep 04 06:19 |
| Chaekyung | nah, as I said, we simply don't care about foreign media propaganda saying it's such serious. we don't wear masks, we don't social distance, we are and have been going about our lives per usual. | Sep 04 06:19 |
| schestowitz__ | 1,094,856 tests in Sweden | Sep 04 06:19 |
| schestowitz__ | 85k positive | Sep 04 06:20 |
| schestowitz__ | if all were positive, they'd drown out the hospitals | Sep 04 06:20 |
| schestowitz__ | [06:19] <Chaekyung> nah, as I said, we simply don't care about foreign media propaganda saying it's such serious. we don't wear masks, we don't social distance, we are and have been going about our lives per usual. | Sep 04 06:20 |
| schestowitz__ | one main issue for you | Sep 04 06:20 |
| schestowitz__ | China, Russia, US, Europe | Sep 04 06:20 |
| schestowitz__ | all recognise this as a threat | Sep 04 06:20 |
| schestowitz__ | so unless there's this "one world government" thingie, there's no conspiracy to mislead | Sep 04 06:21 |
| Chaekyung | Yes I know many superpowers jump at the oppertunity to empose tyranny using some pretext/"threat" schestowitz__ | Sep 04 06:21 |
| schestowitz__ | and had the hospitals here had to accommodate a million COVID patients at once, 10,000+ would die PER DAY | Sep 04 06:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I doubt you'd get them all onboard with something like this. | Sep 04 06:21 |
| schestowitz__ | Chaekyung: they don't need a pandemic/epidemic for it | Sep 04 06:22 |
| schestowitz__ | they could instead start wars | Sep 04 06:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They're every bit as aggravated about this as we are. | Sep 04 06:22 |
| schestowitz__ | http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2020/05/02/covid-19-myth/ | Sep 04 06:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Nobody Benefits From COVID-19 | Sep 04 06:22 | |
| schestowitz__ | Chaekyung: you need to rationalise how we, or the US, or China or Russia benefit from economic ruin | Sep 04 06:23 |
| schestowitz__ | as they all suffered from this | Sep 04 06:23 |
| schestowitz__ | http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2020/05/31/brexit-is-based-on-a-lie/ | Sep 04 06:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » COVID-19 Proves Brexit is Based on a Lie | Sep 04 06:23 | |
| schestowitz__ | The communists and the capitalists both suffered | Sep 04 06:23 |
| schestowitz__ | circulation of money has slowed down considerably, people cannot spent http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2020/06/15/second-phase-in-the-uk/ | Sep 04 06:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » The ‘Second Phase’ in the UK is No Shopping Time (Unless You’re Really Desperate) | Sep 04 06:24 | |
| schestowitz__ | *spend | Sep 04 06:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The only winner in business I'm seeing here are Amazon and Walmart, for retail. | Sep 04 06:24 |
| schestowitz__ | yes, very few | Sep 04 06:24 |
| schestowitz__ | and they don't wield power over Russia, China... | Sep 04 06:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Consumer spending is 74% of the economy and these are the two places left you can spend much money if you have it. | Sep 04 06:24 |
| schestowitz__ | Even the military is harmed by this | Sep 04 06:24 |
| schestowitz__ | esp. carriers | Sep 04 06:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Shopping at Walmart is not fun. | Sep 04 06:24 |
| schestowitz__ | Chaekyung: and that's just the CUI BONO analysis ALONE | Sep 04 06:25 |
| schestowitz__ | we could go down to the science | Sep 04 06:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's where you go to buy cheap clothes at the same place you buy cheap groceries and dog food. | Sep 04 06:25 |
| schestowitz__ | and the history of pandemics, even before we had planes carrying 300+ people halfway around the world | Sep 04 06:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I like it, but they boom during recessions for a reason. | Sep 04 06:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The mall is open but people aren't shopping there, either because they have no money, because a third of the stores are now empty after having a bankruptcy sale, or because they're worried they'll be unemployed soon. | Sep 04 06:26 |
| schestowitz__ | people will stop shopping here this weel | Sep 04 06:26 |
| schestowitz__ | the eateries stopped the sales, gov.-backed subsidies (taxpayers), on Monday | Sep 04 06:26 |
| schestowitz__ | today we'll see empty town again | Sep 04 06:27 |
| schestowitz__ | like we saw on weds. | Sep 04 06:27 |
| schestowitz__ | on monday many spent back holiday getting 50% off the food bill | Sep 04 06:27 |
| schestowitz__ | 2 days later town empty | Sep 04 06:27 |
| Chaekyung | bankrupting small and medium sized bussinesses couldn't be part of some agenda could it https://www.weforum.org/great-reset | Sep 04 06:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.weforum.org | The Great Reset | World Economic Forum | Sep 04 06:27 | |
| schestowitz__ | stores and dining places of all kinds | Sep 04 06:27 |
| schestowitz__ | Chaekyung: big businesses suffer also | Sep 04 06:27 |
| schestowitz__ | Microsoft firing 5000, Salesforce 1000, Oracle... | Sep 04 06:27 |
| schestowitz__ | Amazon might be doing "OK".. | Sep 04 06:28 |
| Chaekyung | I think the Bilderberg Corporation will survive, though. It's very large and very profitable | Sep 04 06:28 |
| schestowitz__ | BUT | Sep 04 06:28 |
| schestowitz__ | only if people STILL have money to spend | Sep 04 06:28 |
| schestowitz__ | (which they won't in the long run) | Sep 04 06:28 |
| Chaekyung | Don't forget Mozilla Corporation, they fired 250 last month | Sep 04 06:28 |
| schestowitz__ | yup | Sep 04 06:28 |
| schestowitz__ | as did their rivals | Sep 04 06:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The soft reopening of the movies was a disaster. | Sep 04 06:28 |
| schestowitz__ | in browsers | Sep 04 06:28 |
| Chaekyung | >blaming covid for 10+ years of declining market share | Sep 04 06:28 |
| Chaekyung | hmm | Sep 04 06:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They sold tickets for 15 cents and couldn't sell them all. | Sep 04 06:28 |
| schestowitz__ | Chaekyung: which businesses HIRE now? | Sep 04 06:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | People didn't want to go to the movies for 15 cents. | Sep 04 06:29 |
| schestowitz__ | Google stopped hiring | Sep 04 06:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Even after being cooped up for 6 damned months. | Sep 04 06:29 |
| Chaekyung | I can understand that one. I wasn't even cooped up and I haven't been to the movies in years | Sep 04 06:29 |
| schestowitz__ | Chaekyung: you seem to have latched onto weakly-backed theories | Sep 04 06:30 |
| schestowitz__ | pandemics do happen and now we're most densely-populated | Sep 04 06:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, $5 Tuesday at the movies was always PACKED before the shutdown. | Sep 04 06:30 |
| schestowitz__ | anyway, bbl | Sep 04 06:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | We went one last time about 8 days before the shutdown. | Sep 04 06:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I told Mandy there might not be a movie theater ever again, or a Chinese restaurant. | Sep 04 06:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So we hit both one last time. | Sep 04 06:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Federal Reserve is going the way of Japan. | Sep 04 06:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | In Japan, their central bank apparently now owns 80% of their publicly traded companies. | Sep 04 06:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The banks are taking everything over. | Sep 04 06:41 |
| schestowitz__ | national debt almost 3 times the GDP | Sep 04 06:44 |
| schestowitz__ | and people already work an insane amount of time, over 100 hours per week in some cases | Sep 04 06:44 |
| schestowitz__ | while 'living' in shoeboxes | Sep 04 06:44 |
| schestowitz__ | if they ever even leave the workplaces to make use of their urban 'homes' | Sep 04 06:44 |
| schestowitz__ | eventually to be buried in some terraced 'shelf' | Sep 04 06:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz__: The in laws. | Sep 04 06:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | No longer buying water from a truck. | Sep 04 06:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Mark sending Maricel to lug 5 gallon jugs home. Hope she doesn't break a nail. | Sep 04 06:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So sad. | Sep 04 06:47 |
| schestowitz__ | not sad | Sep 04 06:50 |
| schestowitz__ | they had it coming | Sep 04 06:50 |
| schestowitz__ | living beyond their means | Sep 04 06:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I was being sarcastic. | Sep 04 06:50 |
| schestowitz__ | by some standards, they'd ought to envy people who live in a motel | Sep 04 06:51 |
| schestowitz__ | without getting nasty calls threatening to evict | Sep 04 06:51 |
| schestowitz__ | can't sleep like that | Sep 04 06:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, back to foreclosure court. | Sep 04 06:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | 20 years of mortgage payments for nothing. | Sep 04 06:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <schestowitz__ "can't sleep like that"> You can, until the phone starts ringing at 9 AM and it's the bank again wanting to know where the money is. B-) | Sep 04 06:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Until the bank actually retakes the house. | Sep 04 06:55 |
| schestowitz__ | SPAMnil does PR for Microsoft https://www.tfir.io/github-launches-container-registry/ | Sep 04 06:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tfir.io | GitHub Launches Container Registry | TFiR: The Fourth Industrial Revolution | Sep 04 06:58 | |
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| kingoffrance | oh we got "alt cloud" now too lol | Sep 04 07:54 |
| kingoffrance | (from that link) | Sep 04 07:54 |
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| kingoffrance | "innersourcing" how is that "alt" ? that was their plan all along | Sep 04 07:55 |
| kingoffrance | microsoft is "alt" now | Sep 04 07:56 |
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| kingoffrance | when i think ms i think young scrappy fresh-faced startup | Sep 04 07:58 |
| schestowitz__ | do you see any comments on https://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/1301580899021131776 ? | Sep 04 07:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BrideOfLinux: I think it might be time for RMS to say a word or two as well: It's Time for RMS to Come Out of the Closet https://t.co/X1PiIXc5kG | Sep 04 07:59 | |
| kingoffrance | the small underdog fighting against all odds | Sep 04 07:59 |
| schestowitz__ | I cannot see | Sep 04 07:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | It’s Time for RMS to Come Out of the Closet | Techrights | Sep 04 07:59 | |
| schestowitz__ | but it says there is one | Sep 04 07:59 |
| schestowitz__ | I am not blocked by it | Sep 04 07:59 |
| schestowitz__ | as when logged out I can see nothing either | Sep 04 07:59 |
| schestowitz__ | maybe flagged as spam by Twitter Inc.? | Sep 04 07:59 |
| schestowitz__ | kingoffrance: "In other words, developers can better enforce access policies, encourage usage of a standard base image, and promote innersourcing through easier sharing across the organization." | Sep 04 08:00 |
| schestowitz__ | Inner Source is their attack plan | Sep 04 08:00 |
| schestowitz__ | (part of it anyway) | Sep 04 08:00 |
| schestowitz__ | http://techrights.org/2020/05/23/innersource-commons-isc-president-a-giveaway/ | Sep 04 08:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | To Understand Why “Inner Source” is a Cheap Corporate Ploy if Not a Free Software-Hostile ‘Scam’ Look Who’s Behind It | Techrights | Sep 04 08:00 | |
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| schestowitz__ | Gates mules | Sep 04 08:00 |
| schestowitz__ | Open Source is now becoming "we use git" | Sep 04 08:00 |
| schestowitz__ | (internally) | Sep 04 08:00 |
| kingoffrance | "revolution" for sale | Sep 04 08:01 |
| schestowitz__ | or "we share some bits of code over proprietary Microsoft GitHub" | Sep 04 08:01 |
| schestowitz__ | that's "open source" in 2020 | Sep 04 08:01 |
| kingoffrance | sign here | Sep 04 08:01 |
| schestowitz__ | and the Linux Foundation puts all the code there too | Sep 04 08:01 |
| schestowitz__ | the scam is working | Sep 04 08:01 |
| kingoffrance | well this is how you co-opt stuff: pretend to be the outsider | Sep 04 08:03 |
| kingoffrance | i hate talking like this because i used to ignore all such things, but the marketing is amazing | Sep 04 08:05 |
| kingoffrance | mesmerizing | Sep 04 08:05 |
| kingoffrance | spellbinding | Sep 04 08:05 |
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| kingoffrance | its like cloud gets a bad rap, well just start an alt cloud and do all the same things | Sep 04 08:09 |
| kingoffrance | when too many ppl catch on, alt alt cloud | Sep 04 08:09 |
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| kingoffrance | "Linode helped pioneer the cloud computing industry." " has put the Linode at the forefront of the Alternative Cloud movement." arent these like normally mutually-exclusive? | Sep 04 08:18 |
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| kingoffrance | we started this, but were alternative | Sep 04 08:18 |
| kingoffrance | *the alternative | Sep 04 08:20 |
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| schestowitz__ | [08:18] <kingoffrance> "Linode helped pioneer the cloud computing industry." " has put the Linode at the forefront of the Alternative Cloud movement." arent these like normally mutually-exclusive? | Sep 04 09:08 |
| schestowitz__ | he is paid by them to spread these lies | Sep 04 09:08 |
| schestowitz__ | that's just a shill site | Sep 04 09:08 |
| schestowitz__ | it was an OK site when its domain name was still muktware.com | Sep 04 09:08 |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz__: the Inner Source camp is not exactly new. They use to be a sub group in the pro BSD/MIT camp. | Sep 04 10:31 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz__: someways they are useful as they given a name for when companies use open source methods internally but don't share anything with the world. | Sep 04 10:34 |
| schestowitz__ | oiaohm: the term is newer | Sep 04 10:34 |
| schestowitz__ | and the so-called foundation is new | Sep 04 10:35 |
| schestowitz__ | as is that amazon-backed event for 'open core' | Sep 04 10:35 |
| oiaohm | open core has a different meaning to Inner source define. As in a open core all development could be throw over wall using no community development. | Sep 04 10:36 |
| oiaohm | Even no internal community development. | Sep 04 10:36 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz__: Open Source Initiative and the Linux foundation for a time has had the pro BSD/MIT/ commercial usage not sharing source messing around. We have had no clear name for it and they have not had a clear foundation that matched there ideals either. | Sep 04 10:41 |
| oiaohm | I am not saying that Inner Source ideals are what we want long term. But those people and companies having a place that matches their ideals instead of attempting to modify other foundations to match their ideals could be a good thing long term. | Sep 04 10:42 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz__: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology_status_by_country when something like Scientology can get tax free status in the USA. Something like Inner Source getting tax free status in USA should not be surprising. | Sep 04 10:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Scientology status by country - Wikipedia | Sep 04 10:51 | |
| MinceR | 04 085416 < kingoffrance> oh we got "alt cloud" now too lol | Sep 04 11:30 |
| MinceR | i'm waiting for "ctrl" and "shift" | Sep 04 11:30 |
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| kingoffrance | metacloud. tell me that doesnt sound real | Sep 04 11:50 |
| MinceR | :) | Sep 04 11:50 |
| MinceR | supercloud, hypercloud | Sep 04 11:50 |
| psydroid | Intel Cloud Intelligence, Works on Windows Only | Sep 04 11:56 |
| MinceR | :> | Sep 04 11:58 |
| MinceR | "Works" | Sep 04 11:58 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/20012762 | Sep 04 12:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4314598) | Sep 04 12:03 | |
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| XRevan86 | ɑemons | Sep 04 12:24 |
| MinceR | demons | Sep 04 12:28 |
| XRevan86 | when life gives one demons, one makes demonade | Sep 04 12:30 |
| MinceR | indeed | Sep 04 12:31 |
| MinceR | (audio:important) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/07/10/3c49cc68e212ecf0.mp4 | Sep 04 12:33 |
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| MinceR | https://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/07/10/ebf983c053344ea9.jpg | Sep 04 14:23 |
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| MinceR | (audio:important) https://i.imgur.com/PKqi9yS.mp4 | Sep 04 14:40 |
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| Narrator | Darwin awards? | Sep 04 14:48 |
| MinceR | :) | Sep 04 14:51 |
| MinceR | (cat) https://ircz.de/p/2001245 | Sep 04 15:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4305193) | Sep 04 15:11 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: It was all good until they started talking in Russian. | Sep 04 15:34 |
| MinceR | lol | Sep 04 15:34 |
| MinceR | i liked that part the best | Sep 04 15:34 |
| schestowitz__ | MinceR: nice picks, cheers | Sep 04 16:07 |
| schestowitz__ | XRevan86: what a waste of VODKA | Sep 04 16:08 |
| schestowitz__ | [11:30] <MinceR> i'm waiting for "ctrl" and "shift" | Sep 04 16:08 |
| schestowitz__ | shite computing | Sep 04 16:08 |
| MinceR | :) | Sep 04 16:09 |
| schestowitz__ | "there's no shite computing, it's just someone else's toilet" | Sep 04 16:09 |
| schestowitz__ | and using clown computing 'coz it's cheaper is like always using public toilets to save paper | Sep 04 16:09 |
| schestowitz__ | a saying of mine since years ago | Sep 04 16:09 |
| schestowitz__ | you share computers where you don't need to | Sep 04 16:09 |
| schestowitz__ | and it harms privacy, security etc. | Sep 04 16:09 |
| schestowitz__ | the toilet analogy stinks enough to put people off clown computing, I hope | Sep 04 16:10 |
| MinceR | lol | Sep 04 16:10 |
| schestowitz__ | it's the public toilet of IT | Sep 04 16:10 |
| schestowitz__ | you pay with it with paper you put ON THE SEAT | Sep 04 16:10 |
| schestowitz__ | and maybe covid aerosols | Sep 04 16:10 |
| MinceR | just don't put paper on the seat http://i.imgur.com/4RZEL9m.gif | Sep 04 16:10 |
| schestowitz__ | XRevan86: Russia is good at exporting embarrassing videos and gas | Sep 04 16:11 |
| schestowitz__ | MinceR: watch with hands and water | Sep 04 16:11 |
| schestowitz__ | like in southeast asia (the poorest) | Sep 04 16:11 |
| MinceR | you're screwed if you buy their gas though | Sep 04 16:11 |
| schestowitz__ | belarus would know | Sep 04 16:11 |
| schestowitz__ | or was it latvia? | Sep 04 16:12 |
| MinceR | ukraine, hungary | Sep 04 16:12 |
| MinceR | probably a long list | Sep 04 16:12 |
| XRevan86 | do individual russians count? | Sep 04 16:13 |
| MinceR | do individual russians sell gas? | Sep 04 16:13 |
| XRevan86 | they buy it | Sep 04 16:13 |
| schestowitz__ | in a canister | Sep 04 16:13 |
| MinceR | oh, right | Sep 04 16:13 |
| schestowitz__ | near fire | Sep 04 16:13 |
| MinceR | well, they are screwed because they live in russia | Sep 04 16:14 |
| MinceR | obviously | Sep 04 16:14 |
| XRevan86 | fair | Sep 04 16:14 |
| schestowitz__ | navalny drinks gas | Sep 04 16:14 |
| schestowitz__ | and then blames putin | Sep 04 16:14 |
| schestowitz__ | obviously | Sep 04 16:14 |
| MinceR | lol | Sep 04 16:14 |
| schestowitz__ | "flase flag MATE!!" | Sep 04 16:14 |
| MinceR | novichok agents are normally powders though, not gases | Sep 04 16:15 |
| XRevan86 | novichok from starichok with love | Sep 04 16:16 |
| MinceR | :> | Sep 04 16:16 |
| schestowitz__ | what was alleged to have been used in the UK? | Sep 04 16:16 |
| MinceR | against whom? | Sep 04 16:17 |
| schestowitz__ | that pair of people | Sep 04 16:17 |
| XRevan86 | Skripals I presume | Sep 04 16:17 |
| MinceR | novichok | Sep 04 16:17 |
| schestowitz__ | didn't pay much attention, yes | Sep 04 16:17 |
| MinceR | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novichok_agent#Poisoning_of_Sergei_and_Yulia_Skripal | Sep 04 16:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Novichok agent - Wikipedia | Sep 04 16:17 | |
| schestowitz__ | they said they found a bottle | Sep 04 16:17 |
| schestowitz__ | I assumed liquid evaporating | Sep 04 16:17 |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.cnx-software.com/2020/09/04/ip67-rugged-gmsl2-camera-works-with-nvidia-jetson-devkits/ | Sep 04 16:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | IP67 Rugged GMSL2 Camera Works with NVIDIA Jetson Devkits | Sep 04 16:34 | |
| MinceR | https://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/07/10/12ae93fee17a22a1.jpg | Sep 04 16:38 |
| MinceR | The sorcerer: “I’ve lost object permanence!” The paladin: “Okay, where did you last see it?” | Sep 04 16:45 |
| schestowitz__ | Miss Pulsar | Sep 04 16:47 |
| schestowitz__ | Ariadne: http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=8752 | Sep 04 17:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-esr.ibiblio.org | Kyle Rittenhouse and the militia obligation | Armed and Dangerous | Sep 04 17:26 | |
| schestowitz__ | facepalm | Sep 04 17:26 |
| Ariadne | jesus fucking christ | Sep 04 18:13 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/91jU4ze.jpg | Sep 04 18:14 |
| Ariadne | https://twitter.com/weh_kaniini/status/1301931910885761024?s=19 | Sep 04 18:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@weh_kaniini: in today's episode of ESR makes a fool of himself, ESR defends Kyle Rittenhouse, the radicalized kid who went acros… https://t.co/mDdavloaCn | Sep 04 18:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@weh_kaniini: in today's episode of ESR makes a fool of himself, ESR defends Kyle Rittenhouse, the radicalized kid who went acros… https://t.co/mDdavloaCn | Sep 04 18:25 | |
| schestowitz__ | good to leave countries where this gets normalised | Sep 04 18:26 |
| schestowitz__ | Trump not banned for supporting it | Sep 04 18:26 |
| schestowitz__ | but Ann C was | Sep 04 18:26 |
| schestowitz__ | from Twitter IIRC | Sep 04 18:26 |
| schestowitz__ | Apparently it's not a "debate" | Sep 04 18:26 |
| schestowitz__ | whether domestic terrorism is OK or not | Sep 04 18:26 |
| schestowitz__ | *now a debate | Sep 04 18:26 |
| schestowitz__ | Coulter? | Sep 04 18:26 |
| schestowitz__ | I think I spell that right | Sep 04 18:27 |
| schestowitz__ | and apparently some GOP politicians did too | Sep 04 18:27 |
| schestowitz__ | so there are now "two sides" | Sep 04 18:27 |
| schestowitz__ | pro-murder is one of them | Sep 04 18:27 |
| Ariadne | I would like to say that outside of a few agitators it isn't a debate here either. | Sep 04 18:27 |
| schestowitz__ | esp. if they're black | Sep 04 18:27 |
| Ariadne | but... | Sep 04 18:27 |
| schestowitz__ | we had a politician shot here | Sep 04 18:28 |
| schestowitz__ | for supporting immigants and palestine and stuff | Sep 04 18:28 |
| schestowitz__ | I can't remember a single British politician standing for the "Britain First" murderer | Sep 04 18:29 |
| schestowitz__ | if there were, I'd have to rethink what we've become | Sep 04 18:29 |
| schestowitz__ | under Trump this is now normal | Sep 04 18:29 |
| schestowitz__ | crime is normal | Sep 04 18:29 |
| schestowitz__ | Trump May Have Broken the Law by Encouraging NC Residents to Try and Vote Twice https://truthout.org/articles/trump-may-have-broken-the-law-by-encouraging-nc-residents-to-try-and-vote-twice/ | Sep 04 18:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Trump May Have Broken the Law by Encouraging NC Residents to Try and Vote Twice | Sep 04 18:29 | |
| schestowitz__ | A Lawless Attorney General Hits New Lows https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/william-barr-cnn/ | Sep 04 18:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenation.com | A Lawless Attorney General Hits New Lows | The Nation | Sep 04 18:29 | |
| schestowitz__ | When you are officially ruled by the criminal, who are THEY to enforce the law and decide who criminals ar | Sep 04 18:30 |
| schestowitz__ | *are? | Sep 04 18:30 |
| schestowitz__ | [18:24] <schestowitz__> â NEWS â #CommonDreams #blackmail #extortion â 'Dangerous, Destructive, and Divisive': Trump Ploy to Defund So-Called 'Anarchist Jurisdictions' Denounced as 'Illegal' Reelection Stunt https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/09/03/dangerous-destructive-and-divisive-trump-ploy-defund-so-called-anarchist | Sep 04 18:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | 'Dangerous, Destructive, and Divisive': Trump Ploy to Defund So-Called 'Anarchist Jurisdictions' Denounced as 'Illegal' Reelection Stunt | Common Dreams News | Sep 04 18:30 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://truthout.org/articles/trump-threatens-to-defund-nyc-and-other-cities-he-deems-anarchist/ | Sep 04 18:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Trump Threatens to Defund NYC and Other Cities He Deems "Anarchist" | Sep 04 18:31 | |
| schestowitz__ | What | Sep 04 18:31 |
| schestowitz__ | Da | Sep 04 18:31 |
| schestowitz__ | Faq | Sep 04 18:31 |
| schestowitz__ | And last: Bad Medicine: Weaponizing Government Resources for Partisan Politics https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/09/03/bad-medicine-weaponizing-government-resources-for-partisan-politics/ | Sep 04 18:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bad Medicine: Weaponizing Government Resources for Partisan Politics - CounterPunch.org | Sep 04 18:32 | |
| schestowitz__ | you're governed by the worst criminal in the entire nation | Sep 04 18:32 |
| schestowitz__ | and he ain't leaving | Sep 04 18:32 |
| schestowitz__ | will break the election | Sep 04 18:32 |
| schestowitz__ | and not honour if he loses it despite breaking the process | Sep 04 18:32 |
| schestowitz__ | Marcos US, Inc. | Sep 04 18:33 |
| Ariadne | well I'm planning on leaving. | Sep 04 18:38 |
| Ariadne | :p | Sep 04 18:38 |
| smnthermes | _I3^RELATIVISM: why did you troll #grapheneos? | Sep 04 18:39 |
| smnthermes | https://freenode.logbot.info/grapheneos/20200817#c4788434 | Sep 04 18:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freenode.logbot.info | #grapheneos | Sep 04 18:40 | |
| schestowitz__ | Ariadne: you are lucky you're highly skilled; many want to leave but cannot | Sep 04 18:42 |
| schestowitz__ | The "vote twice" thing is the attitude of someone who will not respect election outcomes | Sep 04 18:43 |
| schestowitz__ | so he might appoint a son when he dies | Sep 04 18:43 |
| schestowitz__ | and he praises people who want life-long tentures | Sep 04 18:44 |
| schestowitz__ | Kim, Xi, Putin, Netanyahu... | Sep 04 18:45 |
| schestowitz__ | Ergodan called elections a bus | Sep 04 18:45 |
| schestowitz__ | and they also agree. You just use the election to get on that bus | Sep 04 18:45 |
| schestowitz__ | which you will never leave | Sep 04 18:45 |
| schestowitz__ | this seems to be a global trend thingie... | Sep 04 18:45 |
| schestowitz__ | back to rulers of kingdoms | Sep 04 18:46 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | The courts already ruled that he had to restore funding to sanctuary cities when Chicago sued him. | Sep 04 19:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's no way this "anarchist zones" thing is legal, but he'll lose it after the election. | Sep 04 19:08 |
| _I3^RELATIVISM | smnthermes: that is not trolling | Sep 04 19:16 |
| _I3^RELATIVISM | just anoyed by one of the grapheneos devs atitude | Sep 04 19:16 |
| _I3^RELATIVISM | "if that how you deal with this kinds of situations probably Im not interested in being in this room. And I think is important that you notice that I said in the future not in the present moment, so probably the time frame is like 5years. strcat power is a dangerous thing and you should reflect on your action here today" | Sep 04 19:20 |
| _I3^RELATIVISM | I think by reading that you can come to a easy understandment why that was not trolling but trully being annoyed by strcat behaviour | Sep 04 19:21 |
| _I3^RELATIVISM | showing atoritarian tendencies, which is something I never apreciate | Sep 04 19:21 |
| _I3^RELATIVISM | smnthermes: How is what I said a "baseless belief" | Sep 04 19:23 |
| scientes | is there any good ethnic slur for portugese or brazilians | Sep 04 19:28 |
| _I3^RELATIVISM | tugas | Sep 04 19:29 |
| _I3^RELATIVISM | meaning portuguese | Sep 04 19:29 |
| scientes | ahh cool | Sep 04 19:29 |
| _I3^RELATIVISM | brazucas | Sep 04 19:29 |
| scientes | from Albania | Sep 04 19:29 |
| _I3^RELATIVISM | meaning brazilians | Sep 04 19:29 |
| scientes | Its just when I want to listen to Spanish and end up hearing Portugales | Sep 04 19:30 |
| scientes | and my ears bleed because of those god-damn tugas | Sep 04 19:30 |
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| *_I3^RELATIVISM sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/cLCFqaQzTZfniHKVVoLDbNDs/message.txt > | Sep 04 19:37 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Links 4/9/2020: GNU/Linux Laptops Galore and Release of GTK 3.99.1 http://techrights.org/2020/09/04/release-of-gtk-3-99-1/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/f6f2248f-9985-4479-8941-0545521ae979] | Sep 04 19:37 | |
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| schestowitz__ | Ariadne: thanks, the viera program seems to be back after 5 days :-) now I realise just how much I missed it | Sep 04 19:42 |
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| Ariadne | schestowitz__: i am going to move it this weekend :) | Sep 04 20:22 |
| schestowitz__ | makes sense | Sep 04 20:22 |
| schestowitz__ | it's a lot easily to maintain a train of thought when it works and runs | Sep 04 20:23 |
| schestowitz__ | otherwise I have to remember to pause and post copies manually, then double-check | Sep 04 20:23 |
| schestowitz__ | Ariadne: Natanael Copa http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141731 | Sep 04 20:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Video/Audio: Linux Foundation Deception, Ubuntu Podcast from the UK and Natanael Copa | Tux Machines | Sep 04 20:24 | |
| schestowitz__ | First time i hear his name | Sep 04 20:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | We're at the Chinese buffet. | Sep 04 21:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Waukegan COVID-19 activity slowed down after half got it. | Sep 04 21:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Lost about 300 people to it very rapidly and then slowed down. | Sep 04 21:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It seems to be about as bad as the 1918 flu, left uncontrolled. | Sep 04 21:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | We have to assume everyone has it because many people don't have severe symptoms. | Sep 04 21:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I do think a safe effective vaccine will emerge eventually, but skipping phase 3 trials is a very bad idea that will set us back months so that Trump can try to win votes. | Sep 04 21:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | A false start does more damage than waiting because fewer people will have confidence in the real vaccine later. | Sep 04 21:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It will provide anti-vaxxers with "the last one was crap and it hurt people so nyaah". | Sep 04 21:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | We've definitely made more progress in less time on a vaccine than ever before. I really hope the government isn't so corrupted by Trump that the FDA throws away our one chance to get this right. | Sep 04 22:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's going to be rationed at first anyway to the people at highest risk and most important to the economy. | Sep 04 22:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So what I think is irrelevant. By the time I get my dose, we'll know what it did to those people. | Sep 04 22:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'd agree with rationing it that way even if we knew 100% that it worked well and had few side effects. | Sep 04 22:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's people in much more danger than me and I wouldn't want to be ahead of them anyway. | Sep 04 22:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | San Francisco was spared the worst of the 1918 flu because it had one of the rare mask mandates. When the masks came off, it came back around and got them bad. | Sep 04 22:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It must be nice that there was no Facebook back then. | Sep 04 22:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'd trade them. It's been one of the most corrupting influences on our society. It allows people who are really stupid and Russian government trolls to brainwash the public. It sends everything you type to the police. | Sep 04 22:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's no part of it that is good. | Sep 04 22:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz__ Illinois got one thing right that RMS complained about. | Sep 04 22:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The BIPA law. | Sep 04 22:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The BIPA law needs to be expanded with the text of the California privacy law as well though. | Sep 04 22:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Facebook tried to get the BIPA struck down and the court refused. | Sep 04 22:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think that the damages for BIPA should be higher than they are, but they were enough to have Facebook pay a class action settlement and opt out Illinois residents from biometrics. | Sep 04 22:15 |
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