●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, September 04, 2021 ●● ● Sep 04 [00:01] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [00:01] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 22.63 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 36.11 swarm size (avg): 263.85 [00:02] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [00:02] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [00:04] techrights-news GLAMP https://tedium.co/2021/09/01/lamp-stack-php-mysql-apache-history/ #gnu #linux at the base [00:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tedium.co | LAMP Stack History: Its Everywhere, But Developers Hate It [00:04] MinceR GLOMP [00:05] schestowitz-TR o for? [00:05] MinceR \_()_/ [00:05] MinceR https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/glomp [00:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wiktionary.org | glomp - Wiktionary [00:19] techrights-news From open Guest Wi-Fi to pwning a lift https://www.pentestpartners.com/security-blog/from-open-guest-wi-fi-to-pwning-a-lift/ #Security [00:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pentestpartners.com | From open Guest Wi-Fi to pwning a lift | Pen Test Partners [00:20] techrights-news "Lets start by praising the Raspberry Pi: it has brought cheap computing to many, has inspired and enabled education and undoubtedly been a huge benefit." But... https://www.pentestpartners.com/security-blog/why-the-raspberry-pi-isnt-suitable-for-iot/ [00:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pentestpartners.com | Why the Raspberry Pi isnt suitable for IoT | Pen Test Partners [00:24] techrights-news #epo enabled massive #fraud https://nitter.eu/oscaralizarazo/status/1007766745451515904 [00:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.eu | Oscar A. Lizarazo-C (@OscarALizarazo): "In 2015 Theranos's founder Elizabeth Holmes was included by the EPO European Patent Office in finalists of the European Inventor Award https://www.epo.org/news-issues/news/2015/20150421.html & was praised by the USPTO https://www.uspto.gov/about-us/news-updates/remarks-director-michelle-k-lee-columbia-global-centers In 2018 she is accused of fraud What role are pate .. [00:25] techrights-news Paid advertising from the #EPO on #CNN (from 2015) http://advertisementfeature.cnn.com/epo/nominees/2015/elizabeth-holmes/ #fraud #Theranos [00:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-advertisementfeature.cnn.com | Elizabeth Holmes | European Inventor Award | EPO | CNN Advertisement Feature [00:25] techrights-news #EPO enabled #fraud that killed a lot of people https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/09/01/elizabeth-holmes-theranos-trial-analysis-silicon-valley/ https://www.bbc.com/news/business-58336998 [00:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.washingtonpost.com | Elizabeth Holmes Theranos trial may hinge on three words: intent to deceive - The Washington Post [00:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Theranos scandal: Who is Elizabeth Holmes and why is she on trial? - BBC News [00:31] techrights-news n update on #Fairphone 3 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155266 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [00:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | An update on Fairphone 3 | Tux Machines [00:36] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155267 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [00:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [00:38] techrights-news Response to #teamUPC lies and liar: "And like at the #EPO judges are only appointed for a certain length of time. And those judges should be truly independent. See what is going on at the boards of appeal of the EPO" http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/09/01/chairman-preparatory-committee-is-hopeful-start-unified-patent-court-will-not-be-delayed-by-brexit-complications/#comments [00:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | Chairman Preparatory Committee is hopeful start Unified Patent Court will not be delayed by Brexit complications - Kluwer Patent Blog [00:41] techrights-news #UPC and #UPCA are a sick joke, only taken seriously by #TeamUPC which crafted it for profit, self enrichment. #europe should put them under a probe for this... #RegulatoryCapture (or writing the laws that govern themselves) http://techrights.org/wiki/Unitary_Patent [00:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Unitary Patent - Techrights [00:47] techrights-news #windows #vista11 isn't even a new #microsoft release but a glorified Service Pack. Maybe it should simply be referred to as "Service Pack 11" (emergency release as #vista10 rots and market share dives), a compulsory limitation (TPM), disguised as "update" or "upgrade" mostly for anti-competitive purposes [00:51] techrights-news Pitting #SteamDeck Against Nintendo Switch https://www.tech-critter.com/pitting-steam-deck-against-nintendo-switch/ #gnu #linux #archlinux [00:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 520 @ https://www.tech-critter.com/pitting-steam-deck-against-nintendo-switch/ ) [00:52] techrights-news Oh, #watchtroll promoting #swpats again in "Its All in the Hardware: Overcoming 101 Rejections in Computer Networking Technology Classes"; #patent #litigation never met #patents they did NOT like http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Watchtroll [00:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Watchtroll - Techrights ● Sep 04 [01:00] *includeals has quit (*.net *.split) [01:00] *Noisytoot has quit (*.net *.split) [01:00] *birkoff has quit (*.net *.split) [01:01] *includeals (~includeal@a94-132-136-59.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #techrights [01:03] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot) has joined #techrights [01:07] *birkoff (birkoff@thunderirc.net) has joined #techrights [01:08] *birkoff is now known as Guest7317 [01:12] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:15] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:15] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:19] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [01:21] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [01:33] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:34] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:50] AdmFubar this sound shocking! [01:50] AdmFubar https://hackaday.com/2021/09/03/wearable-scope-lets-your-fingers-do-the-probing/ [01:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Wearable Scope Lets Your Fingers Do The Probing | Hackaday [01:53] MinceR sounds like looking for phase with a fork or something [01:58] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [01:58] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights ● Sep 04 [02:01] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [02:11] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.53 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 54.35 swarm size (avg): 263.83 [02:36] techrights-news *** *** Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-030921.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-030921.txt Read the log now... 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[02:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, September 03, 2021 [02:42] techrights-news *** *** Yesterday's bulletin ready. http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2021-09-03.txt ● Sep 04 [03:02] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:02] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:03] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:19] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:21] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #techrights [03:31] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [03:31] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights ● Sep 04 [04:01] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [04:01] techrights-ipfs-bot Gemini requests since start of month: 52080 total Total pages: 37283 Active: active (running) since Tue 2021-06-08 16:18:39 BST; 2 months 26 days ago [04:01] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS local node stats (past 23 hours) calculated. TotalIn: 1.9 GB TotalOut: 402 MB [04:01] techrights-ipfs-bot New daily bulletin just generated. It is about to be added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with CID [04:06] techrights-ipfs-bot QmbaP7TZ7mUw8pw3WX69cx9hqp8d55jJqWB83KGsmqW96k [04:12] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 22.21 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 15.45 swarm size (avg): 263.83 [04:14] *job (~job@evbaumnxfqsfi.irc) has joined #techrights [04:16] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) [04:16] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #techrights [04:19] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [04:25] *DaemonFC (~DaemonFC@58326zsrjzujg.irc) has joined #techrights [04:26] DaemonFC I got back from a day trip to the Indiana Dunes. [04:26] DaemonFC We could take the trains cheaply because of promos to increase ridership. [04:26] DaemonFC The trains are packed, both Metra and the South Shore Line (Indiana) ones. [04:27] DaemonFC Gas coming up for $3.50 a gallon and people who don't want to get stuck in Labor Day traffic jams. [04:27] DaemonFC Smarter ones take the train, especially when you know what'll happen on the freeway. ● Sep 04 [05:04] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [05:12] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 19.93 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 82.38 swarm size (avg): 263.79 [05:24] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [05:24] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Sep 04 [06:11] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.80 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 62.46 swarm size (avg): 263.76 [06:23] *ciphrCat has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [06:25] *gde35 has quit (Quit: KVIrc 5.0.0 Aria http://www.kvirc.net/) [06:27] *ciphrCat (~ciphrCat@v75kd7krrqfvs.irc) has joined #techrights [06:59] *blitzed has quit (connection closed) ● Sep 04 [07:11] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 22.16 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 59.96 swarm size (avg): 263.73 ● Sep 04 [08:11] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 21.93 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 49.40 swarm size (avg): 263.70 [08:14] schestowitz Journalism or PR/advertising? [08:14] schestowitz https://www.juve-patent.com/news-and-stories/people-and-business/dusseldorf-and-munich-the-quest-for-reliability/ [08:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.juve-patent.com | German regional courts and the quest for reliability - JUVE Patent [08:14] schestowitz also typos in the text LOL [08:23] *qa_ (~qa@fa9xe2vquf842.irc) has joined #techrights [08:59] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [08:59] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights ● Sep 04 [09:00] techrights-news #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155268 #Linux #TuxMachines [09:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [09:01] techrights-news [Meme] That Didn't Go Too Well for Alexander Ramsay, Master Liar of #TeamUPC ... http://techrights.org/2021/09/04/alexander-ramsay-rotten-tomatoes/ #unitarypatent #unifiedPatentCourt #EPO @zoobab [09:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] That Didnt Go Too Well for Alexander Ramsay, Master Liar of Team UPC | Techrights [09:02] techrights-news EPO Expos: The Besieged Baltic States Part XIII Out With the Old, in With the New? http://techrights.org/2021/09/04/baltic-shuffle/ #europe #corruption #epo #patents #coup [09:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO Expos: The Besieged Baltic States Part XIII Out With the Old, in With the New? | Techrights [09:03] techrights-news s #IRC Proceedings: Friday, September 03, 2021 THigHT http://techrights.org/2021/09/04/irc-log-030921/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/09/04/irc-log-030921/ [09:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Friday, September 03, 2021 | Techrights [09:03] techrights-news #ibm not diverse and inclusive. It pays hush money to hide that. "I was contacted by a law firm regarding a class action age discrimination lawsuit [...] I have to admit it was a lot of fun checking my mailbox after being laid off as three checks totaling $65K arrived over subsequent months with no explanation at all." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1cDTSoRU#replies [09:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Kyndrl people on Linkedin seem happy being dumped by IBM ? Is this their real feeling ? Let us know... - post regarding IBM layoffs [09:04] techrights-news #Techrights Bulletin for Friday, September 03, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext [09:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives [09:05] techrights-news #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing [09:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index [09:06] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:06] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:08] techrights-news NEWS #Undeadly #BSD traceroute(8) gets speed boost http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20210903094704 [09:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-undeadly.org | traceroute(8) gets speed boost [09:09] techrights-news NEWS #PCWorld #Hardware Buying a mechanical keyboard? Consider these 6 points of caution https://www.pcworld.com/article/3631054/mechanical-keyboard-buying-tips.html [09:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Buying a mechanical keyboard? 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[09:22] techrights-news #eon / # #eonnext said they would phone me back (escalation), but it has been a day and no call. #npower was taken over by vandals and incompetent tyrants. Their #greenwashing with words like "sustainable" and "renewable" impress nobody. 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Why do they bother and why reinforce this idea that Kluwer Patent blogger lies to readers in pursuit of dishonest and unconstitutional agenda? http://techrights.org/2021/09/04/alexander-ramsay-rotten-tomat [09:56] *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: Leaving) [09:57] techrights-news #librem5 is #gnu and #linux https://odysee.com/@purism:8/librem-5-getting-faster-with-age-2:a [09:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-odysee.com | Librem 5 Getting Faster With Age (corrected graph) ● Sep 04 [10:00] psydruid some people on "hacker" "news" manage to "sneak" in comments on Stallman regardless of the subject matter at hand, is he the new "Satan" or "bogeyman"? [10:00] psydruid https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28406367 [10:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.ycombinator.com | None of the OSes that Stallman suggests are acceptable are actually acceptable, ... | Hacker News [10:20] gustaf don't forget generalized contempt for the FSF and GNU software [10:20] gustaf GPL just isn't libertarian enough for HN [10:30] gustaf also that sneak dude is an asshole [10:30] gustaf I've run into him before [10:45] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:45] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:47] *activelow reboots [10:47] *activelow has quit (Quit: leaving) [10:51] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [10:51] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [10:55] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #techrights [10:57] *activelow (~activelow@bhb9i6bc63ghc.irc) has joined #techrights [10:59] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) ● Sep 04 [11:02] *activelo1 (~activelow@mzna7d8hci2cq.irc) has joined #techrights [11:02] *activelow has quit (connection closed) [11:05] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #techrights [11:11] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.06 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 68.23 swarm size (avg): 263.64 [11:36] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:39] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [11:39] *GNUmoon2 has quit (connection closed) [11:45] psydruid https://pingcap.com/blog/how-to-trace-linux-system-calls-in-production-with-minimal-impact-on-performance [11:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to Trace Linux System Calls in Production with Minimal Impact on Performance | PingCAP [11:46] psydruid I don't read things on HN very often, I just stumbled upon this through a search ● Sep 04 [12:01] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [12:08] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:09] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:09] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [12:10] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [12:17] techrights-news NEWS #RaspberryPi #RasPi #GNU #Linux Robotic waiter learning to serve drinks https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/robotic-waiter-learning-to-serve-drinks/ [12:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.raspberrypi.org | Robotic waiter learning to serve drinks - Raspberry Pi [12:17] gustaf it's a pit of despair [12:17] gustaf the links themselves can be interesting but the commentary often sucks [12:22] schestowitz-TR psydruid: typical "hackers" "news" [12:23] schestowitz-TR I don't even try to make sense of them... [12:23] schestowitz-TR let them go back to upvoting some commecrcials [12:23] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@fici29dumxqp6.irc) has joined #techrights [12:23] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [12:25] gustaf most upvoted submission on HN since Jun 2012: Stephen Hawking has died (6,015) [12:25] gustaf #2: "A letter to our customers" from Apple.com [12:25] gustaf 5,771 [12:25] gustaf most commented: Biden wins [12:26] gustaf #2: Apple , Google AWS cut off Parler [12:26] schestowitz-TR how are any of these "hacker"? [12:26] gustaf Perennial question! [12:26] activelo1 https://hackaday.com/2017/11/03/386-too-much-try-a-186-in-an-fpga/ [12:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-386 Too Much Horsepower? Try A 186, In An FPGA! | Hackaday [12:27] gustaf https://lobste.rs is much harsher re topicality [12:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lobste.rs | Lobsters [12:27] gustaf https://lobste.rs/moderations [12:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lobste.rs | Moderation Log | Lobsters [12:27] activelo1 "The core is released under the GPLv3 license", great. hitting the iron cortain of commercial itnerests again with advertised a moment later: Altera Cyclone IV :( [12:27] activelo1 curtain [12:28] *activelo1 has quit (Quit: leaving) [12:28] *activelow (~activelow@s3gpcdb5iajbw.irc) has joined #techrights [12:29] schestowitz-TR activelow: lots of that... [12:29] activelow no intention to interrupt anyone, if so simply say [12:29] schestowitz-TR I added hackaday to my rss feeds yesterday [12:29] schestowitz-TR AdmFubar shared almost 200 with me [12:32] activelow extremely annoying, when investigating this, i am hitting a criteria failed always [12:33] schestowitz-TR activelow: we might soon publish something about the german regime [12:33] schestowitz-TR might need some translations at some point [12:34] techrights-news NEWS #CommonDreams German Groups Sue Major Carmakers for Fueling the #Climate Emergency https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/09/03/german-groups-sue-major-carmakers-fueling-climate-emergency [12:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | German Groups Sue Major Carmakers for Fueling the Climate Emergency | Common Dreams News [12:34] techrights-news NEWS #FAIR Chilling the Press Has Consistently Outraged Me https://fair.org/home/chilling-the-press-has-consistently-outraged-me/ [12:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fair.org | 'Chilling the Press Has Consistently Outraged Me' - FAIR [12:35] activelow schestowitz-TR: if i can help with translating simply say; i rarely read any german newspaper anymore at all [12:35] schestowitz-TR does not surprise me [12:35] schestowitz-TR and your english is particularly strong [12:35] schestowitz-TR not that english lang publications are so good [12:35] schestowitz-TR but... many of the best publications are in English [12:36] *GNUmoon2 has quit (connection closed) [12:36] *GNUmoon has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [12:38] activelow ok, intel released a 186 SoC (not only CPU core but required peripheral I/O too), ready for deployment, GPL3... onto Altera only [12:38] activelow Altera isn't supported by symbiflow [12:38] activelow symbiflow is the opensource toolchain for FPGAs (similar to GCC a collection to support different platforms) [12:39] activelow next, Xilinx, ok, at least there seems to be some options. Xilinx is *expensive*, ouch [12:40] techrights-news NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights #GTA #TakeTwo Sues Enthusiasts Behind GTA Fan Projects re3 & reVC https://torrentfreak.com/take-two-sues-enthusiasts-behind-gta-fan-projects-re3-revc-210903/ [12:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Take-Two Sues Enthusiasts Behind GTA Fan Projects re3 & reVC * TorrentFreak [12:40] techrights-news NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights Anti-Piracy Alliance Calls For a 'Staydown' Requirement in EU's Digital Services Act https://torrentfreak.com/anti-piracy-alliance-calls-for-a-staydown-requirement-in-eus-digital-services-act-210903/ [12:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Anti-Piracy Alliance Calls For a 'Staydown' Requirement in EU's Digital Services Act * TorrentFreak [12:40] activelow the lattice icebreaker seems ok, but it is very limited, and most projects advertised hit the iron curtain of commercial interests with Altera (or Xilinx) [12:41] schestowitz-TR activelow: in which site? [12:41] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@2egakdguwv4ue.irc) has joined #techrights [12:41] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [12:42] activelow schestowitz-TR: hackaday publishes alot of interesting projects, including the intel 186 FPGA one, following the links later arriving at Altera and their tooling required [12:43] techrights-news NEWS #EFF #Privacy Without Changes, Council of Europes Draft #Police #Surveillance Treaty is a Pernicious Influence on Latam Legal Privacy Frameworks https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/09/without-changes-council-europes-draft-police-surveillance-treaty-pernicious [12:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Without Changes, Council of Europes Draft Police Surveillance Treaty is a Pernicious Influence on Latam Legal Privacy Frameworks | Electronic Frontier Foundation [12:43] techrights-news NEWS #EFF Delays Aren't Good EnoughApple Must Abandon Its #Surveillance Plans https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/09/delays-arent-good-enough-apple-must-abandon-its-surveillance-plans If @eff told members to #boycottApple things would improve a lot faster [12:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Delays Aren't Good EnoughApple Must Abandon Its Surveillance Plans | Electronic Frontier Foundation [12:45] activelow "programming FPGAs knows that its a land of proprietary tools that almost require marriage level commitment to a specific platform"; which almost always means to boot a Wintel PC [12:48] techrights-news Essential #freesw tools for an academic organization http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155269 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [12:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Essential open source tools for an academic organization | Tux Machines [12:49] techrights-news www.tuxmachines.org [12:49] techrights-news Linux Cybersecurity Mistakes Small Businesses Commonly Make http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155270 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [12:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Cybersecurity Mistakes Small Businesses Commonly Make | Tux Machines [12:50] techrights-news #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155271 #Linux #TuxMachines [12:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [12:51] activelow Lattice Semiconductor (Symbiflow), with former Zilog staff on board, seeked to change this, and were sanctioned as "threat to national security" ● Sep 04 [13:07] *hgc has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:11] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 22.81 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 114.45 swarm size (avg): 263.60 [13:12] techrights-news Lies and Deceit, Striving to Expand the Coup From Patent Offices to #Patent #Courts http://techrights.org/2021/09/04/still-an-ongoing-coup/ #teamupc #unitarypatent #upc [13:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Lies and Deceit, Striving to Expand the Coup From Patent Offices to Patent Courts | Techrights [13:13] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:13] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:17] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [13:17] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [13:38] techrights-news NEWS #EFF Video Briefing Wednesday: @EFF and Partners Will Deliver to Apple Petitions with 50,000 Signatures Demanding End to Phone Scanning Program https://www.eff.org/press/releases/video-briefing-wednesday-eff-and-partners-will-deliver-apple-petitions-50000 they should have called for #Apple boycott ages ago if they're true to the EFF's goals... [13:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Video Briefing Wednesday: EFF and Partners Will Deliver to Apple Petitions with 50,000 Signatures Demanding End to Phone Scanning Program | Electronic Frontier Foundation [13:38] techrights-news NEWS #Techdirt #copyright #copyrights #Sony Music Says #DNS Service Is Implicated In Copyright Infringement At The Domains It Resolves https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210903/07234647492/sony-music-says-dns-service-is-implicated-copyright-infringement-domains-it-resolves.shtml [13:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Sony Music Says DNS Service Is Implicated In Copyright Infringement At The Domains It Resolves | Techdirt [13:39] techrights-news NEWS #Techdirt #Apple Recognizes It Jumped Too Quickly On Its #CSAM Detection System; Delays Implementation https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210903/12031147494/apple-recognizes-it-jumped-too-quickly-csam-detection-system-delays-implementation.shtml many other reasons exist to #boycottapple [13:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apple Recognizes It Jumped Too Quickly On Its CSAM Detection System; Delays Implementation | Techdirt [13:42] techrights-news NEWS #Techdirt Study Suggests Assholes Online Are Routinely Assholes Offline https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210830/08175447466/study-suggests-assholes-online-are-routinely-assholes-offline.shtml you needed a study for that??? [13:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Study Suggests Assholes Online Are Routinely Assholes Offline | Techdirt [13:52] gustaf no, their sale to a Chinese consortium was blocked activelow [13:56] techrights-news Poking fun (even minutes ago) at #ibm hiding its collapse by spinning off #Kyndryl https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1cBJofNS [13:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Kyndryl Office - post regarding IBM layoffs [13:56] *psydruid still doesn't see how Lattice and Zilog are in any way relevant to the absence of more vendors on the FPGA market [13:59] techrights-news #EPO Expos: The Besieged Baltic States Part XIV will be published tomorrow morning and will be a lot longer than EPO Expos: The Besieged Baltic States Part XIII. We'll then show lots of documents. #europe #corruption ● Sep 04 [14:00] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:01] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:02] techrights-news It's getting super-hard to censor #techrights (inc. Gemini and IPFS) because over gemini:// we already served over 50000 pages in the first 3 days of the month. Gemini has many web proxies, so to censor a site you need to block thousands at the same time. Infeasible. [14:07] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [14:07] techrights-news Sites that say you need to sign up to read some article, even if it is toll-free (not a paywall), aren't doing any good. They take away #privacy from readers... [14:07] activelow psydruid: no need to restrain yourself to Z80 on lattice FPGAs (although i feel it is recommended) [14:07] activelow https://github.com/fpgawars/icestudio [14:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - FPGAwars/icestudio: Visual editor for open FPGA boards [14:08] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [14:08] activelow nonetheless this seems a good start [14:08] activelow https://github.com/Obijuan/Z80-FPGA [14:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - Obijuan/Z80-FPGA: Z80 CPU for OpenFPGAs, with Icestudio [14:09] *leah has quit (Quit: WeeChat 2.8) [14:09] activelow and then, i would try to continue with rodny zak programming z80 for the software side of this [14:10] activelow and the circuit design hardware side some lecture is required, although my goal is to have some free and open system to practice assembly "only" [14:11] activelow otherwise many FPGA vendors exist, only lattice seems to be free and opensource to avoid Wintel [14:13] techrights-news To many #freesw people #twitter as a platform became almost irrelevant. Twitter changed its algos in the same way #google #youtube had done... to drive "engagement" rather than expose people to those who actually follow them. They say "algo" and "HEY HI", but it's really just optimised to sell ads and favour the platform owners. [14:13] psydruid maybe there is something from China, India, Singapore etc. [14:15] *psydroid3 (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #techrights [14:16] MinceR 04 110042 < psydruid> some people on "hacker" "news" manage to "sneak" in comments on Stallman regardless of the subject matter at hand, is he the new "Satan" or "bogeyman"? [14:16] MinceR he's a designated target for cancellation [14:16] MinceR the "open letter" failed, but that doesn't mean that dehomag gave up on taking over the FSF [14:17] MinceR and "hacker" "news" is a dehomag-allied echo chamber [14:17] schestowitz-TR they try to 'cancel' techrights there [14:17] schestowitz-TR IBM employees [14:17] schestowitz-TR they even disclose they work for IBM [14:17] schestowitz-TR and they bury posts [14:18] schestowitz-TR most of the comments from them.... censoring critics of Dehomag [14:18] schestowitz-TR ALL social control media ends up like this [14:18] schestowitz-TR so sites need to reduce their dependence on it [14:18] schestowitz-TR this is worsened when people's WHOLE platform is some lousy youtube channel [14:18] schestowitz-TR and they register their own site when it is TOO LATER [14:19] schestowitz-TR *LATE [14:19] schestowitz-TR For instance, when they realise youtube stopped notification subscribers about updates [14:19] schestowitz-TR and then they figure out, "OH! I'm too dependent on whatever algo changes Gulag makes to sell more ads" [14:19] schestowitz-TR or they FORCE ads on your videos... without giving you a share of the revenue from those ads [14:20] schestowitz-TR eventually those channels perish and produce nothing new [14:20] gustaf who/what is Dehomag [14:20] schestowitz-TR the sites meant to replace them are discovered by nobody [14:20] MinceR gustaf: ibm [14:20] schestowitz-TR there's also an analogy here wrt BIG IRC networks [14:21] schestowitz-TR one stupid stoner who thinks he's a disenfranchised kind can ruin the WHOLE network, 40,000 REGISTERED channels [14:21] schestowitz-TR *king [14:23] MinceR https://assets.amuniversal.com/d9dd7df09c7d0139601e005056a9545d ( https://dilbert.com/strip/2021-06-01 ) [14:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Dilbert Comic Strip on 2021-06-01 | Dilbert by Scott Adams [14:24] schestowitz [14:22] Dehomag is their subsidiary there in Germany http://techrights.org/2021/04/25/ibm-germany-history/ [14:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Documentary: IBM Founder (Watson) Gave a Nazi Salute, Admired Hitler, Said Hitler Was Doing the Right Thing | Techrights [14:24] schestowitz [14:22] [Notice] -TechrightsSocial to #boycottnovell-social- techrights.org | Documentary: IBM Founder (Watson) Gave a Nazi Salute, Admired Hitler, Said Hitler Was Doing the Right Thing | Techrights [14:24] schestowitz [14:22] Berlin IIRC [14:24] schestowitz [14:22] There was also Watson Business Machines in Poland [14:24] schestowitz [14:22] IBM STILL uses the brand Watson [14:24] schestowitz [14:23] even though it's what was used to traffic people for gassing etc. [14:24] schestowitz I posted this in the 'wrong' channel [14:25] gustaf lol US kids used to give the "roman salute" when reciting the pledge of allegience [14:25] gustaf means nothing [14:25] schestowitz-TR but check the context [14:25] gustaf that IBM helped plan the Holocaust is a fact, but so what [14:26] psydruid Watson Business Machines in Breslau (Wrocaw)? [14:26] gustaf plenty of companies, both in Germany and elsewhere helped [14:26] schestowitz-TR he gave that when he met the Nazi Party in Germany [14:26] schestowitz-TR Reportedly did a half salute [14:26] gustaf also, using software for whatever purpose is freedom 0... [14:26] MinceR they were evil criminals back then, they're evil criminals now [14:26] schestowitz-TR gustaf: the documentary names other companies [14:26] schestowitz-TR this clip is about the IBM role [14:27] MinceR also, they lecture people on using allegedly offensive words regardless of context [14:27] schestowitz-TR they? [14:27] MinceR ibm [14:27] schestowitz-TR them [14:27] MinceR also, apparently using words like "master" is worse than helping the nazis kill millions of jews [14:27] gustaf btw here's the HN topic about RMS resignation https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20990583 [14:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.ycombinator.com | Richard M. Stallman resigns | Hacker News [14:27] schestowitz-TR IBM still uses the word master [14:27] schestowitz-TR it's OK when IBM does it [14:27] schestowitz-TR it's honourable because they wear suits [14:28] schestowitz-TR gustaf: you try to trivialise Watson being buddies with Hitler [14:28] gustaf no [14:28] schestowitz-TR it was his second-largest client worldwide [14:29] gustaf so? [14:29] gustaf that was over 70 years ago [14:29] schestowitz-TR Watson had been a fraudster even before he ran IBM [14:29] gustaf fucking Ingvar Kamprad was a Nazi [14:29] gustaf but everyone loves IKEA [14:29] schestowitz-TR really? [14:29] gustaf being a Nazi was legitimate pre 1939 [14:29] gustaf yeah [14:29] schestowitz-TR Sweden was neutral [14:29] schestowitz-TR so people favour brands like Volvo and stuff [14:30] schestowitz-TR but it's not like what IBM did was normal [14:30] schestowitz-TR gustaf: so was being a Trump supporter [14:30] schestowitz-TR even after the insurrection [14:30] gustaf Sweden allowed the export of valueble iron ore to Germany [14:30] gustaf they allowed transit of occupying troops from Norway to Germanu [14:30] psydruid so Sweden was "neutral"? [14:31] gustaf also Sweden deported lots of Baltic citizens to the USSR [14:31] gustaf psydruid: yep! [14:31] MinceR IKEA isn't trying to kill free software [14:31] gustaf Swedne switched after Stalingrad [14:31] schestowitz-TR MinceR: not yet :-) [14:31] MinceR afaik IKEA isn't lecturing anyone over using the word "master" as a branch name [14:31] schestowitz-TR anyway, not their business model [14:31] schestowitz-TR iirc, they put some freesw on chipsets in their products [14:31] gustaf https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ingvar_Kamprad#Fascist_involvement [14:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Ingvar Kamprad - Wikipedia [14:31] schestowitz-TR which involved deforestation in western europe [14:32] schestowitz-TR *eastern also [14:32] schestowitz-TR like romania [14:32] gustaf to its credit the IKEA museum doesn't cover this up [14:32] schestowitz-TR unlike Higo Boss [14:32] gustaf I believe Kamprad became an alcoholic after working with Poland to export wood etc [14:32] schestowitz-TR *Hugo [14:32] gustaf he got a Polish order [14:32] MinceR https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_IBM#1939%E2%80%931945:_World_War_II [14:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | History of IBM - Wikipedia [14:32] MinceR > Historian and author Edwin Black, in his best selling book on the topic, IBM and the Holocaust, maintains that the seizure of the German subsidiary was a ruse. He writes: "The company was not looted, its leased machines were not seized, and [IBM] continued to receive money funneled through its subsidiary in Geneva."[91] In his book he argues that IBM was an active and enthusiastic supplier to the [14:32] MinceR Nazi regime long after they should have stopped dealing with them. Even after the invasion of Poland, IBM continued to service and expand services to the Third Reich in Poland and Germany.[91] The seizure of IBM came after Pearl Harbor and the US Declaration of War, in 1941. [14:34] gustaf still guilt by association for the modern IBM [14:34] MinceR modern IBM has not learned anything [14:35] MinceR also, being literally the same corporation seems to be a bit more than "association" [14:37] *isak (~isak@dzzss3vg4xwbw.irc) has joined #techrights [14:40] schestowitz-TR yeah [14:41] schestowitz-TR I'm surprised some people would still make excuses for IBM BECAUSE: [14:41] schestowitz-TR even IBM isn't trying to do that [14:41] schestowitz-TR Instead, IBM googlebombs the whole topic [14:41] schestowitz-TR AND [14:41] schestowitz-TR The occasional denials [14:41] schestowitz-TR It got IWB, a former Cuban Jew, to help them with this denying propaganda [14:41] MinceR especially considering that they still like to name things after that medal-carrying nazi [14:41] schestowitz-TR like they lost the paper evidence and stuff... [14:42] schestowitz-TR MinceR: That too [14:42] schestowitz-TR "master"" offensive, "Watson" OK [14:42] schestowitz-TR pay extra for the HEY HI brand [14:42] MinceR maybe to maintain compliance with ibm's values, we should change the name of the default branch to "hitler" [14:43] schestowitz-TR that would BUG them [14:44] schestowitz Total 6 (delta 4), reused 0 (delta 0) [14:44] schestowitz To ssh://git-tr/home/git/tr-git/ [14:44] schestowitz a5128ab..5e1897f master -> master [14:44] schestowitz we use the defaults [14:44] schestowitz no "slaves" [14:44] activelow "IBM PC" is reason enough to avoid them [14:44] schestowitz the salves are in Fedora project over there ... ---> [14:44] schestowitz they actually rapidly ran out of slaves [14:44] schestowitz killing off centos sent the right message [14:45] schestowitz as A-riadne likes to put it, "MESSAGE RECEIVED" [14:45] schestowitz IBM does not accept "communities" [14:45] MinceR (cat) https://ircz.de/p/21081313 [14:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5758771) [14:46] techrights-news #OpenHardware /Modding Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155272 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [14:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Hardware/Modding Leftovers | Tux Machines [14:47] techrights-news Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155273 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [14:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines [14:48] activelow "IBM PC" is dominating, and proprietary ARM is killing the rest [14:49] activelow deploying gnu/linux onto this in fact supports proprietary malicious business, even if not intended to so [14:51] activelow besides the fact i do not appreciate complex CAD and IDEs for development, those again rely on "IBM PC" almost always, or some ARM system [14:51] techrights-news Haha. EFF uses ZOOM, imposing #proprietarysoftware with 1) back doors and 2) #surveillance ... on EFF supporters. The saddest thing? They probably don't even understand what's wrong with it and they tell us to cancel RMS. :-) http://techrights.org/2021/04/16/eff-rogue/ [14:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EFF Attacks Software Freedom and Promotes Fake Privacy Linked to Microsoft | Techrights [14:51] activelow what should EFF use instead [14:51] activelow ? [14:52] activelow some hayes 300baud radio modem system with x.25? [14:52] MinceR jitsi meet [14:52] MinceR mumble [14:52] techrights-news #EFF in 2021 is a mixture of some awesome people (usually the very technical people, some old timers) and truly shitty people, who just exploit the EFF to promote some politics of theirs. Same at #mozilla for that matter. http://techrights.org/2021/04/16/eff-rogue/ [14:52] MinceR also, they should get rid of their crApple crap [14:53] MinceR though at this point it doesn't matter [14:53] MinceR EFF took a stand against our freedom [14:53] MinceR they stand with apple and ibm [14:53] MinceR they should just dissolve their organization [14:53] techrights-news EFF should not beg #apple but instead initiate sanctions because sanctions from a consumerism POV is far more effective. [14:55] techrights-news Days ago #EFF did a blog post about #abortion in #texas so for ANYBODY who is still in DENIAL about #EFF morphing into politics (and being run by wannabe politicians), look it up... [14:56] gustaf what did the EFF do now [14:56] MinceR https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/03/statement-re-election-richard-stallman-fsf-board [14:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Statement on the Re-election of Richard Stallman to the FSF Board | Electronic Frontier Foundation [14:57] gustaf lol ok that [14:57] techrights-news We'll probably know #EFF _institutionally_ jumped the shark when it starts doing blog posts about #war in #afghanistan (likely urging #biden to do some more bombing... for "feminism" of course... knowing who has taken over the EFF and what for) ● Sep 04 [15:01] techrights-news Links 4/9/2021: Loving (G)LAMP and uBlock Origin THigHT http://techrights.org/2021/09/04/ublock-origin/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/09/04/ublock-origin/ [15:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 4/9/2021: Loving (G)LAMP and uBlock Origin | Techrights [15:01] schestowitz-TR hey, let's do a techrights post about afghanistan :-) [15:01] schestowitz-TR totally on topic ;-) [15:02] schestowitz-TR it's about tech [15:02] schestowitz-TR and abour rights... [15:02] schestowitz-TR or maybe I should take stalk or keep tally of eff posts that are clearly off topic [15:02] schestowitz-TR and based on this support the hypothesis eff became non-tech politics [15:03] schestowitz-TR like mozilla/bakercorp [15:03] schestowitz-TR they DIVIDE their supporters [15:03] schestowitz-TR based on or along lines TOTALLY unrelated [15:04] schestowitz-TR you like cake? Sure, I will bake you a cake. Oh! You voted Tories? NO CAKE FOR YOU! [15:04] schestowitz-TR "sorry, maam, we cannot admit into this cartoon film any ladies who oppose abortions" [15:05] schestowitz-TR "no popcorn, sir, you're far too black" [15:05] schestowitz-TR this is what those activists try to do to free software [15:05] schestowitz-TR they come in [15:05] schestowitz-TR sometimes based on false pretenses [15:05] schestowitz-TR like using macs [15:06] schestowitz-TR and then they work to divide people [15:06] schestowitz-TR not based on anything technical [15:06] schestowitz-TR usually they cannot make technical arguments, either [15:06] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/21081445 [15:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5764118) [15:06] schestowitz-TR so their presence there was trouble all along, even counter-productive [15:06] schestowitz-TR MinceR: == [15:07] schestowitz-TR we have different syntax [15:07] MinceR depends on the notation [15:07] schestowitz-TR for assignments ;-) [15:07] schestowitz-TR := [15:07] *CrystalMath (~coderain@feykzfumgmyyn.irc) has joined #techrights [15:07] schestowitz-TR or "SET" [15:07] MinceR there are at least 2 languages that use = for equality and not assignment [15:07] MinceR setq or set! :> [15:07] schestowitz-TR I used many P/Ls but == is usually for conditions [15:07] schestowitz-TR that's racist! [15:08] MinceR wait, that's 1 language [15:08] schestowitz-TR (says the non-programmers) [15:08] MinceR basic uses it for both [15:08] schestowitz-TR I cannot learn git!! I won't learn it until you change this "branch thing" [15:08] schestowitz-TR "whatever that is" [15:09] schestowitz-TR "ok, we changed it to main, happy now? Are you learning now?" [15:09] schestowitz-TR "no, all those stupid books STILL say "master" *cries* " [15:09] activelow femainine was missed [15:09] schestowitz-TR "I try to run the commands in the book and they don't work :-( [15:10] schestowitz-TR I don't know how to change them, either [15:11] schestowitz-TR MinceR: we need to burn the textbooks [15:11] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 21.26 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 57.28 swarm size (avg): 263.58 [15:11] schestowitz-TR it's not good for the planet [15:11] schestowitz-TR but it makes some people feel better [15:11] MinceR :> [15:11] MinceR "save a tree! burn a book!" [15:11] schestowitz-TR then we can scrape off some moire trees [15:12] schestowitz-TR and issue books that say "main/leader/primary" instead of "master" [15:12] MinceR dearleader [15:12] schestowitz-TR then, programmers need to look up WHICH of the supposedly P-C term to use [15:12] schestowitz-TR and cannot copy-paste commands [15:12] schestowitz-TR because you first need to run another command [15:12] schestowitz-TR to determine which P-C term was chosen [15:12] schestowitz-TR defaults are offensive [15:12] MinceR they could use environmental variables [15:13] schestowitz-TR we need to have lots of choice [15:13] schestowitz-TR main/leader/primary is three [15:13] schestowitz-TR non-binary [15:13] schestowitz-TR so you need to try loads of things [15:13] schestowitz-TR to do a git pull for some branch [15:13] schestowitz-TR and so they just overcomplicate even documentation [15:13] MinceR git pull $INOFFENSIVE [15:13] schestowitz-TR after complaining about entry barriers [15:14] schestowitz-TR the whole thing is frustrating also because it wastes time [15:14] MinceR ibm probably prefers you to buy clearcase [15:14] MinceR it's practically unusable, but at least it's expensive [15:14] MinceR and an ibm product [15:14] schestowitz-TR MinceR: let's add to git a new line in config [15:14] schestowitz-TR for default branch name [15:15] schestowitz-TR then the books will add to add name/email to git... define also a default branch name by using your text editor [15:15] schestowitz-TR (not Microsoft Word, git does not read .docx files) [15:15] MinceR that line exists already [15:15] schestowitz-TR ok, so not it's mandatory [15:15] schestowitz-TR extra entry barrier [15:16] schestowitz-TR for inclusion [15:16] MinceR [init] [15:16] MinceR defaultBranch = master [15:16] schestowitz-TR we'll include more developers by making life harder [15:16] *psydruid puts a new project on github called dehomag with branches "watson", "hitler", "gbbels" etc. [15:16] MinceR :) [15:16] schestowitz-TR up until 2 years ago nobody ever had to change those lines [15:16] schestowitz-TR and it was consistent across projects in ALL languages [15:17] schestowitz-TR psydruid: you would get 1000 stars [15:17] schestowitz https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/jan/18/github-apologizes-firing-jewish-employee-capitol-attack-nazi-link [15:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | GitHub apologizes for firing employee who warned of Capitol attack Nazi link | Technology | The Guardian [15:17] schestowitz https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-55704932 [15:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | Github apologises for firing Jewish employee who warned about 'Nazis' - BBC News [15:17] schestowitz https://www.theverge.com/2021/3/15/22332888/github-employee-fired-nazi-slack-declines-offer-job-back [15:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | GitHub employee fired for saying Nazi in Slack declines to take his job back - The Verge [15:17] MinceR :> [15:17] schestowitz when you look it up you only get Bill Gates-funded BBC and Guardian as top results [15:18] schestowitz both take bribes from him [15:18] schestowitz thew BI did the exlusive report: [15:18] schestowitz Google does not even show it in page 1 [15:18] schestowitz 10 top results [15:18] schestowitz https://gizmodo.com/github-fired-a-jewish-employee-for-warning-that-nazis-1846047140 [15:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gizmodo.com | GitHub Fires Jewish Employee For Warning That "Nazis" Were Among the US Capitol Rioters [15:18] schestowitz This one is close, but they managed to Googlebomb away the original [15:19] schestowitz The verge was EDITED by Bill Gates [15:19] schestowitz and they fired a reporter there who investigated Gates [15:19] schestowitz he was here in IRC for weeks/months [15:19] schestowitz and we worked on a report [15:19] schestowitz then The verge fired him [15:19] schestowitz and locked him out of his own notes [15:20] schestowitz then they announced Gates had become Editor [15:20] schestowitz or Guest Editor [15:20] MinceR shouldn't have relied on an external entity for notes [15:20] schestowitz I know [15:20] schestowitz "Clown" [15:20] MinceR Editor? more like Arbiter of Acceptable Thoughts [15:20] schestowitz so he could not complete his story elsewhere [15:20] schestowitz I guess Gates bribes make him MASTER of all the media [15:21] schestowitz and now when you look it up it is all face-saving Microsoft PR [15:21] schestowitz funded by gates [15:21] schestowitz MinceR: yes [15:21] schestowitz he decided on all the things [15:21] schestowitz or delegates someone to play god for him [15:21] schestowitz same as bbc and guardian [15:21] schestowitz I wonder if those two STLLL take bribes from gates [15:21] schestowitz they would no longer PUBLICLY disclose it [15:22] schestowitz after the whole Jimmy Savile scandal and all... [15:22] schestowitz Twitter still takes his money [15:22] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/07/05/bill-gates-pays-twitter/ [15:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Reality is Warped When You Pay for Perception Management (or: Bill Gates Pays Twitter for Propaganda) | Techrights [15:22] schestowitz and around that time it took away my voice for 3 months, citing only tweets I wrote about Gates [15:23] techrights-news Recreate the Conditions https://xkcd.com/2511/ #xkcd [15:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xkcd: Recreate the Conditions [15:27] techrights-news http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155126#comment-30869 [15:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: KSMBD, Tachyum, and CONFIG_ZERO_CALL_USED_REGS | Tux Machines [15:27] techrights-news Tachyums Prodigy emulator achieves first boot, runs Linux and says hello, world http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155126#comment-30869 [15:28] MinceR "just throw it in the kernel", 2021 edition [15:28] MinceR (ksmbd) [15:28] schestowitz-TR :-) [15:28] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2020/08/22/linux-bloat-meme/ [15:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Linux is Becoming a Code Burial Ground, Sometimes at the Expense of Size and Complexity (Bloat) | Techrights [15:28] schestowitz kolivas might make his own kernel [15:28] schestowitz but it's a big job [15:28] MinceR they should just merge systemd into Linux and remove the support for having a userspace already [15:29] schestowitz maybe he needs to hook up with other disgruntled c developers [15:29] schestowitz call it usedspace, MinceR [15:29] schestowitz not space used [15:29] schestowitz person used [15:29] MinceR :> [15:29] schestowitz person as a service [15:29] schestowitz aka slave [15:29] MinceR heresyspace [15:30] MinceR "what, my code isn't allowed to do everything?!" [15:31] MinceR maybe it would be simpler if all these people just stopped fucking up Linux and continued the work on TempleOS instead [15:31] techrights-news SuperTuxKart ILL TAKE ON ALL THE AMERICANS!! - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ethda2zApu0 #video #invidious #multimedia | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/09/04/#latest [15:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | SuperTuxKartI'LL TAKE ON ALL THE AMERICANS!! - Invidious [15:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [15:31] schestowitz now IBM wants AUTHORITY over what programs you can run on your OWN system [15:32] MinceR maybe i can just pay the LDF enough to have them merge whatever i want to run into Linux [15:33] *psydruid would rather BURY IBM than give the company authority over what programs he runs on his OWN system(s) [15:33] schestowitz https://techrights.org/2020/06/14/github-badge/ [15:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation Pretends Security Best Practices is Outsourcing to Microsoft. All Gold Badges (All of Them Except Linux) Go to Projects That Are Microsoft-Controlled at GitHub, With NSA PRISM. | Techrights [15:34] MinceR same [15:35] schestowitz This is the next attack http://techrights.org/2021/03/11/fake-security-brought-by-lf/ [15:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Fake Security From Linux Foundation and the Monopolies Its Fronting for | Techrights [15:36] activelow MinceR: TempleOS targets IBM PC [15:36] schestowitz "sorry, google, ibm and microsoft say you cannot run this program" [15:36] MinceR maybe it's less work to port TempleOS to arm than to merge everything into the kernel [15:36] schestowitz this is like apple i things [15:36] schestowitz brought to "linux" [15:37] schestowitz otherwise, "TheTerroristsWin(R)" (of the Russians etc.) [15:39] activelow ARM resembles IBM PC style proprietary lock down [15:39] schestowitz-TR it does [15:39] schestowitz-TR more so over time [15:39] activelow last time i tried to assemble an address mappings table for on ARM system i gave up [15:39] schestowitz-TR activelow: But TRUST MAN! [15:39] schestowitz-TR TRUST [15:39] schestowitz-TR them [15:39] schestowitz-TR they don't trust you [15:40] schestowitz-TR even YOU should not trust YOU! [15:40] *inky_ has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [15:40] schestowitz-TR Let ARM decide for you [15:40] schestowitz-TR you only bought their hardware [15:40] schestowitz-TR it's still their [15:40] activelow i arrived at Z80 era to avoid this [15:40] schestowitz-TR *theirs [15:40] schestowitz-TR it's just at your home ;-) [15:40] schestowitz-TR and YOU pay for electricity [15:40] schestowitz-TR you also assemble it [15:40] schestowitz-TR hook it up to the Net [15:41] schestowitz-TR "thank you, mr. activelow, and welcome to our botnet/swarm" [15:41] schestowitz-TR "trust us" [15:41] schestowitz-TR welcome to the TRUST zone" [15:41] activelow the ATF sources are open [15:41] activelow but little helpful [15:41] *inky_ (~inky@46.162.252.178) has joined #techrights [15:42] activelow btw. it is possible to disable ATF and linux kernel launches then, but it insisted on the presence of PSCI (power state control implemented in ATF) which is gone then and linux kernel ooopsed [15:42] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:43] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:43] activelow not to mention, most ARM systems are a SoC with additional chips on board for ethernet and usb, which do who knows what [15:44] techrights-news OS for, and by, cranks https://itsfoss.com/shrine-os/ [15:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-itsfoss.com | Neither Windows, nor Linux! Shrine is 'God's Operating System' - It's FOSS [15:44] activelow HDMI is evil, i will revert to VGA if possible, the ARM SBCs i got have not VGA, but i can attach a VT100 terminal converter for PS/2 and VGA to their serial port [15:45] activelow besides, i didn't verify yet how the ATF mangles with serial line I/O [15:46] techrights-news "In the wake of Terry A. Davis' passing his family has requested supporters of his donate to "organizations working to ease the pain and suffering caused by mental illness" such as The Brain & Behavior Research Foundation and National Alliance on Mental Illness." https://templeos.org/ [15:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-templeos.org | TempleOS [15:47] schestowitz-TR activelow: I use vga on my main machine [15:52] techrights-news REMINDER: the #linuxfoundation uses the word or the name "LINUX" but it is NOT about #Linux (sure, it pays the salary of Torvalds and Greg K-H, but that's LESS THAN 1% OF ITS TOTAL BUDGET) http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Linux_Foundation [15:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation - Techrights [15:53] activelow schestowitz-TR: if VGA and keyboard i/o are available before linux kernel launched then this is controlled by BIOS (the true ibm pc operating system) [15:54] activelow maybe i'll manage to implement a Z80 SoC with UZI OS (Fuzix) as a secured vt100 terminal [15:54] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/21081231 [15:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5757364) [15:54] techrights-news Most people who work on #linux are NOT salaried by #linuxfoundation (VERY few are) and many inside Linux Foundation management are now #MICROSOFT employees (to promote GitHub, Windows etc.). Heck, the deputy of Greg K-H gets his salary from Microsoft, so you get the idea of how compromised the thing is! ● Sep 04 [16:05] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [16:05] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [16:14] gustaf the GH master -> main switch would not have been a big deal if not some people had decided it to be a culture war issue [16:14] gustaf also the enormous irony of GitHub == git [16:14] MinceR what other explanation is there for it? [16:14] gustaf in a sane world, everyone who didn't like the change would just move to another git host [16:14] gustaf instead people lost their shit because GH was seen as THE ONE AND ONLY [16:14] *job has quit (connection closed) [16:14] MinceR in a sane world, there would not be a github [16:15] gustaf GH provides enormous value [16:15] gustaf but there should be competitors [16:15] gustaf everyone on HN lost their shit this week because Docker was no longer free [16:15] gustaf disclaimer - I dunno if hta was the case [16:15] schestowitz-TR gustaf: gitlab did the same later under pressure [16:15] gustaf don't use Docker [16:15] schestowitz-TR they shame companies into it [16:16] gustaf "they" [16:16] schestowitz-TR and there was NO PRACTICAL BENEWFIT [16:16] schestowitz-TR NONSE [16:16] schestowitz-TR only harm [16:16] schestowitz-TR *NONE [16:16] *alextee (~alextee@r8gpgvx5ypb7i.irc) has joined #techrights [16:16] gustaf again, if there's a huge number of right-wing programmers prepared to pay for a master-centric git host, one should appear [16:17] gustaf apparently there aren't [16:17] gustaf shocking [16:17] schestowitz-TR right now, any company that REFUSES to changeh branch name will be seen as "making a political statement" [16:17] schestowitz-TR even if that statement is just "no change" [16:17] schestowitz-TR gustaf: you've missed the point [16:17] schestowitz-TR and you missed who started it [16:17] schestowitz-TR and why [16:18] schestowitz "slave" was just the start [16:18] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2020/09/29/lame-words/ [16:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Its Crazy Not to Eliminate Lame Words That Might Offend Somebody | Techrights [16:18] gustaf again, I was forced to take sides because everyone on the "keep master" side were horrible, horrible people [16:18] activelow good question, who and why? besides it is branches not slaves which fork from a master [16:18] gustaf sme with RMS, sadly [16:18] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/05/07/trolling-the-real-community/ [16:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Biggest Troll is the Linux Foundation, Still Looking to Provoke and Defame Free Software Communities in Order to Help a Monopolistic Takeover and to Shoehorn Tyrants Into Leadership Positions | Techrights [16:18] gustaf racists, pedos, misogynists [16:18] MinceR 04 171515 < gustaf> GH provides enormous value [16:18] MinceR to microsoft [16:18] gustaf I use it daily [16:18] schestowitz companies that work on killing people created a parallel set of pseudo-ethics [16:18] gustaf it's great [16:18] schestowitz and then troll us over it [16:19] MinceR 04 171651 < gustaf> again, if there's a huge number of right-wing programmers prepared to pay for a master-centric git host, one should appear [16:19] MinceR not wanting to rename the master branch does not make one "right-wing" [16:19] gustaf MinceR: statistically, it did [16:19] schestowitz [16:18] racists, pedos, misogynists [16:19] schestowitz lies [16:19] gustaf lol [16:19] schestowitz people who opposed the change of "master" [16:19] schestowitz and RMS [16:19] MinceR understanding english should be sufficient to see no need to do so [16:19] gustaf some of them were [16:19] schestowitz were not [16:18] racists, pedos, misogynists [16:19] schestowitz so now I think you too have been misled or are trolling [16:20] MinceR gustaf: evidence of the forced change from master not being motivated by SJW-ism is still missing [16:20] schestowitz gustaf: some pedos are living near you [16:20] gustaf no, Archimedes whoever is/was an ephebophile [16:20] gustaf removed ofc [16:20] gustaf I have a screenshot somewhere on my twitter [16:20] activelow nonetheless, i had noticed first the master-slave terminology with IDE bus of IBM PC, which disappeared with later SATA [16:20] schestowitz 6,800+ people signed in support of RMS inside FSF [16:20] MinceR 04 171846 < gustaf> it's great [16:20] MinceR it was never even free software [16:20] schestowitz they are now what you label them [16:21] schestowitz activelow: can you give a link for this? [16:21] schestowitz If true, it's worth doing a post about [16:21] schestowitz if IBM was the one that may have STARTED calling things "slave" [16:21] activelow sure schestowitz : https://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/IDE_master/slave [16:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wiki.linuxquestions.org | IDE master/slave - LQWiki [16:22] schestowitz but was it first? [16:22] gustaf schestowitz: not *everyone* who defended RMS was a racist or pedophile/ephebophile or misogynist [16:22] gustaf but they were there [16:22] gustaf and they were noticed [16:23] MinceR and now everyone who opposes the corporate crybully agenda is a nazi pedophile misogynist? [16:23] gustaf and I do believe RMS isn't a good leader for the FSF [16:23] activelow "AT Attachment, also known as ATA or IDE is standard interface for IBM computers" [16:23] activelow https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_ATA [16:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Parallel ATA - Wikipedia [16:23] gustaf MinceR: sure, twist my words [16:23] activelow i must admit this was slightly irritating when i noticed this, 20 years ago [16:24] activelow and it was IBM PC, yes [16:24] schestowitz-TR [16:23] and now everyone who opposes the corporate crybully agenda is a nazi pedophile misogynist? [16:24] schestowitz-TR I smell trolling [16:24] schestowitz-TR there are PURELY practical consideration associated with changing terminology, which has nothing to do with slavery anyway [16:24] activelow exactly [16:24] gustaf https://twitter.com/gerikson/status/1176211260142231552 [16:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gerikson: This piece trying to defend Richard Stallman is not doing itself any favors https://t.co/qULpSPVj4s [16:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gerikson: This piece trying to defend Richard Stallman is not doing itself any favors https://t.co/qULpSPVj4s [16:24] schestowitz research some facts http://techrights.org/2021/02/23/minds-of-profound-racists/ [16:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Word Master is Not Problematic in Most Contexts and Its Origin Hasnt a Connection to Slavery | Techrights [16:25] MinceR what is that purely practical consideration? [16:25] gustaf that was one of the first versions of Archimedes' piece [16:26] schestowitz MinceR: I did not say for but against [16:26] schestowitz earlier I mentioned textbooks [16:26] schestowitz backward compatibility etc. [16:26] schestowitz people who can't understand code pay too much attention to words they can see in code [16:26] schestowitz and the rest of us get things done [16:26] schestowitz without getting distracted by nonsense [16:27] schestowitz some of us also think of the ethics of programs [16:27] activelow precise terminology isn't nonsense [16:27] schestowitz like, can they be doing bad things [16:27] schestowitz not, "is this variable name offensive to someone who uses some other language.." [16:28] schestowitz gustaf: seems like Italian law [16:28] schestowitz and not relevant to the piece [16:28] schestowitz you did not even link to it [16:29] schestowitz you just picked two sentences [16:29] schestowitz to discredit the person [16:29] schestowitz whom I don't agree with btw [16:29] schestowitz but some legal systems do agree with it [16:29] schestowitz in many countries there's still child marriage, which I also oppose [16:29] gustaf schestowitz: I purposefully didn't link to the piece [16:29] gustaf I was jsut being snarky [16:29] gustaf but then it blew up [16:30] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2020/08/14/ok-melinda/ [16:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | OK, Melinda | Techrights [16:30] schestowitz Melinda and Bill teach SEVEN YEAR OLDS about sex [16:30] gustaf again, I didn't even name the pseudonymous author [16:30] schestowitz SEVEN [16:30] schestowitz First graders [16:30] schestowitz but we're veering off topic [16:30] schestowitz it started with IBM [16:30] schestowitz and how terrible a company it is and was [16:31] schestowitz based on the work it did for profit [16:31] schestowitz ad, as it seems, for ideological belief of Watson [16:31] schestowitz Watson thought Hitler was doing the right thing [16:31] schestowitz but IBM doesn't want you to focus on it [16:31] schestowitz Because it still names products after him [16:32] gustaf Hitler based his laws excluding Jews on US Jim Crow legislation [16:32] MinceR which of those does this exonerate? [16:32] gustaf in fact, if hitler had just been a bit cool and *not* declared war on the US after Pearl Harbor, who knows what would have happened [16:33] MinceR maybe the nazis would have won earlier [16:33] gustaf yeah [16:33] gustaf FDR wanted to fight hitler but many voters didn't [16:33] gustaf Americans *hated* the Japanese but had to be taught to hate the Germans [16:34] gustaf https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_American_Bund [16:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | German American Bund - Wikipedia [16:34] *inky_ has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [16:35] *inky_ (~inky@37.252.82.78) has joined #techrights [16:35] gustaf to their credit, most Brits thought US army segregation was pants [16:36] gustaf like trying to designated some pubs "whites only" [16:36] gustaf ok time to make Saturday dinner [16:36] techrights-news #gzip has a new version. "A compression utility designed to replace 'compress'. Much better compression and freedom from patented algorithms are its main advantages over compress. Gzip decompresses files created by gzip, compress, or pack; it detects the input format automatically." https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Gzip [16:36] gustaf bookmaker toast! [16:36] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/2108123 [16:36] activelow gustaf: remind me of the german american bund when we can talk german language again [16:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-directory.fsf.org | Gzip - Free Software Directory [16:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5756846) [16:37] techrights-news #Kdenlive 21.08.1 is out http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155274 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [16:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kdenlive 21.08.1 is out | Tux Machines [16:38] *leah (~leah@wrh2nipuzrd3y.irc) has joined #techrights [16:43] techrights-news Burning this planet for virtual 'money' https://www.makeuseof.com/best-ethereum-mining-software/ [16:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.makeuseof.com | The 6 Best Ethereum Mining Software for NVIDIA and AMD [16:46] techrights-news discussion of todays (and last nights) publications about Europes second-largest institution Lies and Deceit, Striving to Expand the Coup From #Patent Offices to Patent Courts THigHT http://techrights.org/2021/09/04/still-an-ongoing-coup/ #Techrights #europe #patents #epo Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/09/04/still-an-ongoing-coup/ [16:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Lies and Deceit, Striving to Expand the Coup From Patent Offices to Patent Courts | Techrights [16:46] schestowitz-TR gustaf: more challenging was selling a war at all [16:47] schestowitz-TR many were already tried of war, and saw this as "none of our business, let them kill each other' [16:48] schestowitz-TR the war in europe with ussr on the other side (US aided them, even Watson Jr.) opened up the European market to US domination [16:48] schestowitz-TR it has hardly changed since then (reconstuction and all, with tons of US military bases in Italy and Germany) [16:49] AdmFubar https://www.databreaches.net/car-hacking-danger-is-likely-closer-than-you-think/ [16:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.databreaches.net | Car Hacking Danger Is Likely Closer Than You Think [16:50] *alextee has quit (Quit: Leaving) [16:50] schestowitz-TR AdmFubar: yeah, barely mentioned [16:51] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/07/03/proprietary-software-inside-cars/ [16:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Unexplored or Scarcely Explored Ethical Problems With Modern Cars Containing Proprietary Software That Drivers Cannot Remove/Replace | Techrights [16:51] schestowitz more in http://techrights.org/2021/07/06/automobile-privacy-tax/ [16:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Todays Cars Have a Privacy Tax | Techrights [16:51] techrights-news Linux From Scratch 11, a distro to learn about #GNU and #Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155248#comment-30870 [16:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines [16:54] AdmFubar damn is m$ fucked up https://www.ghacks.net/2021/09/04/a-microsoft-teams-ad-caused-windows-11-insider-systems-to-hang/ [16:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ghacks.net | A Microsoft Teams ad caused Windows 11 Insider systems to hang - gHacks Tech News [16:54] techrights-news Car Hacking Danger Is Likely Closer Than You Think https://www.databreaches.net/car-hacking-danger-is-likely-closer-than-you-think/ http://techrights.org/2021/07/03/proprietary-software-inside-cars/ [16:55] techrights-news #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware https://www.ghacks.net/2021/09/04/a-microsoft-teams-ad-caused-windows-11-insider-systems-to-hang/ [16:56] schestowitz MinceR: do you think we should call it Vista Service Pack 11? [16:56] schestowitz Instead of Vista 11? [16:56] schestowitz i think SP adds insult [16:56] schestowitz by explaining what it is to "10" [16:57] techrights-news This week in KDE: gazillions of bugfixes http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155275 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [16:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | This week in KDE: gazillions of bugfixes | Tux Machines [16:58] MinceR \_()_/ [16:58] MinceR i call it Backdoors11 [16:59] AdmFubar how about vista dos 11 [16:59] AdmFubar :P [16:59] techrights-news These #patents should be eliminated. They're a THREAT to MILLIONS of people, ESPECIALLY the most vulnerable people https://generics.pharmaintelligence.informa.com/GB150997/New-COVID-19-Vaccine-Patent-Database-Launched #patents #monpolies #hoarding #greed [16:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://generics.pharmaintelligence.informa.com/GB150997/New-COVID-19-Vaccine-Patent-Database-Launched ) [16:59] schestowitz-TR AdmFubar: but why DOS? [16:59] schestowitz-TR VisDOS :) [16:59] *alextee (~alextee@r8gpgvx5ypb7i.irc) has joined #techrights [16:59] AdmFubar it is still there [16:59] schestowitz-TR Vista8 was VERY short-live [16:59] psydruid M$ is another headless chicken [16:59] schestowitz-TR *lived ● Sep 04 [17:00] schestowitz-TR I think it was the worst of all in terms of adoption [17:00] schestowitz-TR many never touched the thing [17:00] AdmFubar and VisDOS was an actual product [17:00] MinceR VMS 11 [17:00] schestowitz-TR oh [17:00] psydruid this shill has to do more and more damage control [17:00] psydruid https://www.windowscentral.com/no-one-going-go-buy-new-pc-just-windows-11 [17:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.windowscentral.com | No one is going to go buy a new PC just for Windows 11 | Windows Central [17:00] schestowitz-TR MinceR: VMS is an insult? [17:01] MinceR well, in the same way windows nt is [17:01] MinceR they're both the same baroque piece of shit [17:01] AdmFubar baroken! [17:01] AdmFubar :P [17:01] MinceR :> [17:03] activelow i am more concerned i cannot do any browser updates anymore [17:03] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:03] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:03] activelow and the non-rust firefox i got is regularly zombified by scripts, sent from ebay and amazon, which i can reliably reproduce [17:03] techrights-news #microsoft and #apple -backed #patentTroll #mpegla is still abusing #swpats in Europe and blackmailing all of us (they inflate product prices by monopolies on maths) https://www.juve-patent.com/news-and-stories/cases/mpeg-la-and-tcl-settle-disputes-with-help-from-key-advisors/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/MPEG-LA [17:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.juve-patent.com | MPEG LA and TCL settle all disputes - JUVE Patent [17:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | MPEG-LA - Techrights [17:06] activelow i can open dozens of tabs without any problems, and as soon as ebay or amazon sent some javascript this thing deadlocks with zombi process remaining, since a week or two [17:08] activelow sadly, even if i wanted to, i cannot live any social live anymore within my niche: no smartphone, no modern browser and only some books to hack assembly or whatever i like to do [17:10] schestowitz-TR that's OK [17:10] schestowitz-TR you overvalue today's society :-) [17:10] schestowitz-TR get a cat [17:10] schestowitz-TR they don't do social control media [17:10] activelow this is my plan to do next: remove x11 and any graphical desktop, and see if linux framebuffer is a pleasant experience [17:11] schestowitz-TR (heck, even the cat would like it more; many cat "owners" don't pay attention to their pets because of "smart" phone) [17:11] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 19.83 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 66.51 swarm size (avg): 263.56 [17:12] *psydruid would rather choose to live in a cabin in the woods [17:12] schestowitz-TR activelow: so uyou go down the path of figosdev [17:12] activelow this isn't a place for a cat to enjoy here, i couldn't at least permit her to leave the flat, since outside a car would smash it [17:12] schestowitz-TR would be interesting to write about.. [17:12] schestowitz-TR we have another person here whom I can't name that moved to netbsd [17:12] activelow yes schestowitz-TR, this should be interesting to see if framebuffer support for opengl/sdl, mplayer and such are pleasant nowadays [17:13] schestowitz-TR psydruid: maybe in warm countries [17:13] activelow even GTK should render onto framebuffer without any X11, maybe i'll try this [17:13] schestowitz-TR gtk is not enough [17:13] schestowitz-TR you need gtk software [17:13] schestowitz-TR unless you roll out your own [17:14] schestowitz-TR most likely you use some toolkit for your irc clients right at this moment [17:14] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [17:14] activelow tmux+curses+irssi [17:15] schestowitz-TR I wish zoobab was in this network like he was in freenode, I need to speak to him [17:15] schestowitz-TR Andrew Lee f*ed everything up [17:15] schestowitz-TR PIA too will go under soon [17:15] schestowitz-TR activelow: tmux on top of? [17:15] MinceR 04 181525 [freenode2] -!- There is no such nick zoobab [17:15] schestowitz-TR he's in LC [17:15] MinceR yeah [17:15] schestowitz-TR where the masters have power [17:16] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [17:16] activelow schestowitz-TR: depends, currently i have an open x11-session [17:16] schestowitz-TR and us slaves are all raycists and pedos [17:16] MinceR ibmnet [17:16] activelow need to save some bookmarks and can ditch x11 instantly [17:16] schestowitz-TR netsurf runs on many OSes [17:17] schestowitz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NetSurf [17:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | NetSurf - Wikipedia [17:17] schestowitz " [17:17] schestowitz Operating systemOfficial:[2] RISC OS, AmigaOS 4, Windows; Linux/Unix-like, BeOS/Haiku, Atari TOS, macOS [17:17] schestowitz 3rd party ports: AmigaOS 3, Caanoo, MorphOS, Samsung TVs, Redox OS, Plan 9; KolibriOS port in development [17:17] schestowitz " [17:17] schestowitz Some do not need x11 [17:17] activelow removing X11 will require the system being fully recompiled from source, and yes netsurf-gtk maybe can do without X11 entirely [17:17] MinceR though to be fair ibm probably has more direct control over oftc than over illibera [17:17] schestowitz I doubt it [17:17] schestowitz XRevan86 showed me oftc is mostly debian [17:18] schestowitz IBM does not fancy ebian [17:18] MinceR does not fancy, but controls [17:18] schestowitz it makes it hard for red rat to sell its crap [17:18] MinceR not anymore [17:18] MinceR only ibm can help debian hostages with systemd now [17:18] schestowitz without debian we'd have lesser distros to replace rhel [17:18] MinceR so they'd better get a support contract [17:18] schestowitz like MS-SUSE or Slackware [17:18] schestowitz MinceR: they try [17:19] schestowitz same with ansible and podman [17:19] schestowitz and openshit [sic] [17:19] schestowitz but few debian useds would touch these [17:19] schestowitz we use things like puppet [17:19] schestowitz the clown folks might go chef's way [17:19] schestowitz Seattle [17:19] schestowitz Amazon/MS [17:19] schestowitz IBM is a zombie [17:19] schestowitz give it another 5 years [17:19] schestowitz it'll be SUN MICRO [17:20] schestowitz then we can focus on real issues [17:20] MinceR maybe microsoft can buy ibm then [17:20] schestowitz not default branch names [17:20] schestowitz (which were never even remotely offensive in the first place) [17:20] activelow problem with the X11 decision: it requires a distinct gentoo-profile with maintenance [17:20] schestowitz [17:20] maybe microsoft can buy ibm then [17:20] schestowitz No, Microsoft has the same issue [17:20] MinceR i suspect that people being called pedophile nazis for not wanting to change a branch name to follow crybully agenda is going to survive ibm [17:21] schestowitz both companies create new shells and buy back their own shares [17:21] schestowitz while "legacy" customers walk away [17:21] schestowitz MinceR: we'll be OK if we communicate properly [17:21] schestowitz I read carefully blog posts I write about it, assuming people can try hard to take them out of context [17:22] MinceR people won't [17:22] MinceR people fall for the dumbest tricks in the book nowadays [17:22] schestowitz I also make this wiki page as ammo when they call you "isms" http://techrights.org/wiki/IBM [17:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM - Techrights [17:22] schestowitz there is a section rebutting racism and sexism too [17:22] MinceR it was enough to spend money on "Microsoft <3 Linux" ads to make people fall for microsoft [17:22] schestowitz if they try [17:22] schestowitz http://techrights.org/wiki/IBM#Attacking_Communities.2FVolunteers is a newer section [17:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM - Techrights [17:22] schestowitz and some gnu/fsf people fancy that [17:23] schestowitz [17:22] it was enough to spend money on "Microsoft <3 Linux" ads to make people fall for microsoft [17:23] schestowitz it did not work [17:23] schestowitz nobody thinks that [17:23] MinceR fidSS can print the most transparent lies and shout them from their TV and radio channels and millions of idiots believe them without thinking [17:23] schestowitz not even corrupted blogs that said it [17:23] schestowitz in fact they STOPPED saying it [17:23] MinceR way too many people trust microsoft nowadays and count it as a supporter of free software and Linux [17:23] schestowitz years ago they stopped using those cheesy images [17:23] MinceR we live in idiocracy [17:24] schestowitz MinceR: where? [17:24] schestowitz where do you see these people? They're a fringe [17:24] schestowitz media APLIFIES them [17:24] schestowitz like ZDNet [17:24] schestowitz but it's not enchanting enough people [17:24] MinceR on irc [17:24] schestowitz it was a failed PR campaign [17:24] schestowitz which they mostly abandoned [17:25] schestowitz MinceR: which channels? [17:25] schestowitz I know abotu shithub [17:25] schestowitz but it is Microsoft [17:25] schestowitz and self-selecting [17:25] schestowitz like rust 'community' [17:25] schestowitz which censored Microsoft 'haters' [17:25] schestowitz and Reddit too [17:25] MinceR dunno [17:25] MinceR usually the bigger, lower quality channels [17:25] schestowitz In the raspi expose we did this year (February) you saw what people thought of Microsoft [17:25] schestowitz rasp was on fire [17:26] schestowitz *raspiu forums etc. [17:26] schestowitz they could not defend what they had done [17:26] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:26] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:26] schestowitz MinceR: those channels worry about branch name [17:26] schestowitz and web ui's [17:26] schestowitz because they cannot read code [17:26] schestowitz so they read words in code [17:26] schestowitz and reas zdnet [17:26] schestowitz for "news" [17:26] MinceR yeah, most humans appear to be like that [17:26] schestowitz screw those people [17:26] MinceR they're screwing themselves, and all of us [17:27] schestowitz yes [17:27] schestowitz and they vanish [17:27] schestowitz notice how many such blogs died [17:27] schestowitz like fossforce [17:27] schestowitz no credibility left [17:27] schestowitz when you shill bad things and attack bad people [17:27] schestowitz readers will walk away [17:28] MinceR and yet people still link origo.hu [17:28] MinceR (not microsoft, but hungarian communist party) [17:28] schestowitz-TR they need a job(bikkl) [17:28] schestowitz-TR getting a job is easier [17:28] MinceR lol [17:28] schestowitz-TR when you suck up to corporations like these [17:28] schestowitz-TR 6-figure salaries, too [17:28] schestowitz-TR but they toss you out after age 40 [17:29] MinceR what currency? [17:29] schestowitz-TR and then you're just some dull knife [17:29] schestowitz-TR with useless "knowledge" [17:29] schestowitz-TR MinceR: USD [17:29] schestowitz-TR exccept in countries they use as slaves [17:29] schestowitz-TR ask IBM [17:29] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [17:29] MinceR (cat) https://ircz.de/p/21081239 [17:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5757656) [17:29] schestowitz-TR mjg59_ now gets a salary from purely propriuetary software company [17:30] schestowitz-TR has not blogged in over a month [17:30] schestowitz-TR he became irrelevant [17:30] MinceR interesting [17:30] schestowitz-TR he rage-quit linux in 2015 iirc [17:30] schestowitz-TR and people stopped caring, except some subcult [17:30] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [17:30] schestowitz-TR MinceR: that's what I mean by people becoming iorrelevant [17:30] schestowitz-TR spamnil [17:30] schestowitz-TR bruce byfield [17:30] schestowitz-TR remember jamie from zdnet? [17:31] MinceR i don't [17:31] MinceR i didn't read much of zdnet to begin with [17:31] schestowitz-TR audience reduced to scraps and they call it quits [17:31] schestowitz-TR they remove themselves from the life chain by looking for short gaining life shilling companies [17:32] schestowitz-TR fossforce became byfieldforce [17:32] schestowitz-TR and mostly attacks on RMS [17:32] schestowitz-TR what kind of FOSS FORCE is this? Or whose? [17:33] *DaemonFC (~DaemonFC@58326zsrjzujg.irc) has joined #techrights [17:33] MinceR a FORCE against FOSS [17:33] MinceR like microsoft and ibm [17:33] schestowitz-TR side story: [17:33] schestowitz-TR foss force is chriostine [17:33] schestowitz-TR a trans lady [17:33] schestowitz-TR we used to be like good friends [17:33] schestowitz-TR but then she started shilling IBM [17:33] *blitzed (~blitzed@5cuqmgidhvnxq.irc) has joined #techrights [17:33] schestowitz-TR sometimes she still does [17:33] schestowitz-TR she needed money [17:34] schestowitz-TR so IBM-funded publisher paid her to do puff pieces [17:34] schestowitz-TR in turn, she neglected FOSS Force [17:34] schestowitz-TR because she failed to raise money from readers for it [17:34] schestowitz-TR and she is poor [17:34] schestowitz-TR then she joined OSI board [17:34] schestowitz-TR didn't like it all that much [17:34] schestowitz-TR and then got absorbed by those IBM-sponsored NGOs [17:35] schestowitz-TR so suddently she lectures me about how tuxmachines should not have [Ed]itorial comments [17:35] schestowitz-TR Which I told her, OK... then I stopped [17:35] schestowitz-TR but she then drifted more and more into that anti-RMS lobby [17:35] schestowitz-TR which basically has some overlaps in freenode too (at the time) [17:35] schestowitz-TR we considered leaving freenode [17:36] schestowitz-TR Bruce Byfield sort of 'took over' FOSS Force [17:36] *activelow has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:36] schestowitz-TR and we know where he stands on Mono, OOXML, Novell, Microsoft [17:36] schestowitz-TR going back to the days of Boycott Novell [17:36] schestowitz-TR so basically we lost FOSS Force to that "group"... which is IMHO "useful idiots" of big surveillance [17:37] schestowitz-TR the same people who control OSI and LF [17:37] schestowitz-TR LF lobbied a lot behind the scenes against FSF via RMS [17:37] schestowitz-TR hiding this as a "social" issue [17:37] schestowitz-TR it was a corporate/finance issue [17:37] schestowitz-TR we're better off not trying to appease these people [17:37] schestowitz-TR or blasting them [17:37] schestowitz-TR we need to communicate what they are doing [17:37] *blitzed has quit (connection closed) [17:37] schestowitz-TR how they are doing this [17:37] schestowitz-TR and how to confront that [17:38] schestowitz-TR e.g. self-hosting [17:38] *blitzed (~blitzed@5cuqmgidhvnxq.irc) has joined #techrights [17:38] schestowitz-TR and reducing centralisation by all means [17:38] schestowitz-TR consolidation in this context would ALWAYS mean big business or gov. [17:38] schestowitz-TR things like "trust" chains, where it boils down to DNS, LF, Google etc. [17:38] schestowitz-TR Gemini is, for now, very grassroots [17:39] schestowitz-TR not a single sponsor there, anywhere... [17:39] schestowitz-TR it is very European, with many Frenchies and US geeks (old timers, not hipsters) involved [17:39] schestowitz-TR that may change over time [17:39] blitzed hiya schestowitz-TR, yes Gemini is beautiful =^_^= now if only it'd catch on more! [17:40] schestowitz-TR but we at least receive a lot of support from the gemini geeks, who can relate. Also IRC is OK; Twitter is lots of misguided people (generally speaking) and FB is the trash of all trash [17:40] schestowitz-TR blitzed: it does grow [17:40] schestowitz-TR 50k+ pages served in sept 1-3 [17:40] schestowitz-TR from gemini.techrights.org [17:41] schestowitz-TR capsules up from 1000 in april to over 1500 now [17:41] blitzed well-done, outstanding :) [17:41] schestowitz gemini://gemini.bortzmeyer.org/software/lupa/stats.gmi [17:41] *activelow (~activelow@mf675eetsurxw.irc) has joined #techrights [17:42] schestowitz oh WOW! [17:42] schestowitz almost 1,600 now [17:42] schestowitz it was 1,500 about a week ago [17:42] activelow irc.com? [17:43] activelow sorry, out now [17:44] blitzed also of note, on my Android-based phone, under the Device Care, Battery...the Gemini clients consume far less energy than Web browsers, therefore there should be a push of Gemini to save the Earth right? =^_^= [17:44] schestowitz gemini://gemini.techrights.org/wiki/IBM/ [17:45] schestowitz blitzed: it's another way to promote it [17:45] schestowitz I did several videos showing RAM consumption of gemini client [17:45] schestowitz telescope, which I used, takes up 1-2MB of RAM [17:45] schestowitz even with multiple 'tabs' open [17:46] schestowitz https://git.omarpolo.com/telescope/ [17:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.omarpolo.com | telescope - A Gemini Browser [17:47] gustaf activelow: don't speak German [17:48] gustaf I took French in H/S [17:48] gustaf and can barely speak/read it [17:48] gustaf dommage [17:49] techrights-news #theregister keeps promoting #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware #monopoly #github ... I don't want to link to the latest example (traffic sent to BS), so instead this old rebuttal: http://techrights.org/2020/08/27/outsourcing-linux-to-microsoft-github/ [17:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Warning: Microsoft Tim and Microsofts New Mole Inside Linux Foundation Board (a Paid-For Seat) Liaise to Outsource Linux Development to Microsofts Proprietary Software Trap | Techrights [17:50] psydruid da skal vi snakke norsk eller svensk [17:50] gustaf lol evertime we see a UK drama with a court component my wife gets mad about the wigs [17:51] techrights-news #IBM IWB: "Despite its dramatic decline, manufacturing continues to have a disproportionate impact on the US economy"... what about the impact on the planet? Maybe the goal should be to REUSE/RECYCLE more, manufacture LESS. https://blog.irvingwb.com/blog/2021/09/revitalizing-us-manufacturing.html [17:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.irvingwb.com | Irving Wladawsky-Berger: Revitalizing US Manufacturing [17:51] DaemonFC schestowitz, The South Shore Line app is so bad that you can't reliably buy a ticket or get a train schedule. [17:52] techrights-news "We are back with our usual monthly update! Boiling Steam looks at the latest data dumps from ProtonDB to give you a quick list of new games that work (pretty much?) perfectly with Proton since August 2021 all of them work out of the box or well enough with tweaks..." https://boilingsteam.com/discover-the-top-9-new-games-to-play-on-linux-with-proton-since-august-2021/ [17:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boilingsteam.com | Discover the Top 9 New Games to Play on Linux With Proton Since August 2021 - Boiling Steam [17:52] activelow tried some video game on framebuffer, and surprise SDL rendered graphical output and sound were ok, but totally killed keyboard input - reset [17:52] DaemonFC But it's okay because they have this thing called a website and these other things called a printed schedule and working ticket machines at every station. [17:52] DaemonFC Metra could learn a lot from them, apparently. [17:52] activelow links -g graphical browser ok too, and of cause the usual curses text ui stuff [17:53] DaemonFC Metra stopped printing schedules because of "COVID". They keep changing their schedule based on what customer flow is looking like. [17:53] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: all "apps" sucks [17:53] schestowitz-TR "apps" means "AVOID" [17:53] DaemonFC And they make it so you can buy a $10 all day pass instead of the usual $8-10 each ride, but only with the app. [17:54] schestowitz-TR gustaf: wigs: [17:54] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/05/23/evangelos-chatzikos-and-richard-arnold/ [17:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPOs War on Justice and Assault on the Law Part 17: The External Members: Evangelos Chatzikos and Richard Arnold | Techrights [17:54] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: you should protest [17:55] schestowitz-TR old and vulnerable people don't have "Apps" [17:55] schestowitz-TR so they discriminate against many [17:55] schestowitz-TR bring up disabled people too [17:55] schestowitz-TR and watch them sweat [17:55] DaemonFC Well, you can get a disabled ride free pass or an elderly half price pass. [17:55] schestowitz-TR I am now ina battle with our energy supplier over "smart" meters [17:55] DaemonFC Anyone on Medicare can show their medicare card to the conductor and ride half off. [17:56] schestowitz-TR they were supposed to phone back from management or should phone back around Monday [17:56] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: so tell them about people too poor to have "smart" phone [17:57] schestowitz-TR and see what they say [17:57] schestowitz-TR and you need to act asasertive so they are under a burden to justify the discrimination [17:58] schestowitz-TR you need to fight their "privacy tax" [17:58] schestowitz-TR RMS does it in the US when they try to get him to gety Oyster Card [17:58] schestowitz-TR *UK [17:58] schestowitz-TR so you can ride a TRAIN anonymously [17:58] schestowitz-TR BUT not the subway (Tube) [17:58] schestowitz-TR which makes no sense at all [17:59] schestowitz-TR IIRC, in London you might even need this spying card for each bus ride [17:59] DaemonFC You could ride anonymously, but you'd have to buy one of the paper tickets from the conductor or the ticketing agent, or a machine if there is one that works. [17:59] DaemonFC They stopped bothering to fix the machines on the south side of Chicago. ● Sep 04 [18:00] DaemonFC People just break them and urinate on them again. [18:00] schestowitz-TR same in Berlin [18:00] schestowitz-TR there's nobody to talk to [18:00] schestowitz-TR and it's also unhelpful to visitors [18:00] DaemonFC Yeah, I heard that much of Europe has gone from everyone gets checked to spot checks. [18:01] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: that's the price to pay for your population being crap, which is a separate problem [18:01] DaemonFC And if you don't have a ticket and they spot check you there's a massive penalty. [18:01] schestowitz-TR some have gates [18:01] DaemonFC Like here, you just say "Ooops, I forgot, can I buy one from you?" and you don't get fined or thrown off the train unless you just refuse to purchase one at that point. [18:02] schestowitz-TR but it depends on the type of ride and city/time of day [18:02] schestowitz-TR some places don't let you purchasase inside [18:03] schestowitz-TR in trains they can print one [18:03] schestowitz-TR to buy anonymously a ticket, with cash, you need to go to the station [18:03] schestowitz-TR for football they ask you your name [18:04] schestowitz-TR so attending a match anonymously is possible only through scalpers [18:04] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Metra had a scandal some years back where they threw a 15 year old girl, or something like that, off a train for no ticket. [18:04] DaemonFC They abandoned her in an empty station in the south side late at night and she got raped. [18:04] schestowitz-TR ouch [18:04] DaemonFC So now they have a policy not to throw anyone off the train until there's Metra cops waiting at a station. [18:05] schestowitz-TR they would have to pay lots in compensation [18:05] DaemonFC They did, which is why they don't throw you off unless they can get Metra cops out there to meet you now. [18:05] schestowitz-TR so it's about money [18:05] schestowitz-TR not ethics [18:05] DaemonFC Basically, yeah. [18:06] schestowitz-TR "no ticket, young lady, so your punishment is some raping" [18:07] techrights-news #Apple M1 IOMMU Driver Merged For #Linux 5.15, Intel Scalable Mode By Default https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Apple-M1-IOMMU-Lands-5.15 [18:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apple M1 IOMMU Driver Merged For Linux 5.15, Intel Scalable Mode By Default - Phoronix [18:07] DaemonFC Like, who thought that this was okay? Just call the Metra police and they can take her down to the station and issue her a fine there. [18:08] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Last night, something else unsettling happened. [18:08] techrights-news #india under #modi moving quick from #warOnCash (to benefit #billgates and #Microsoft etc.) to war on all forms of #privacy https://internetfreedom.in/hands-off-our-vpns-savetheinternet/ they say they fight corrupt, but the government that does this is the most corrupt [18:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-internetfreedom.in | Hands off our VPNs! #SaveTheInternet [18:09] DaemonFC I was riding a Metra train last night and some 15-16 year old girl was hanging around with some Navy guys in their 20s or 30s (they were talking about Navy life and how to use drugs and get around the drug screenings, and she was talking about her high school and how it had smoke detectors in the bathroom and how she hated not being able to vape there), and then they all got off at Great Lakes. [18:09] techrights-news Pick up lots of kids games in the Humble Humongous Back To School Bundle | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/09/pick-up-lots-of-kids-games-in-the-humble-humongous-back-to-school-bundle #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games [18:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Pick up lots of kids games in the Humble Humongous Back To School Bundle | GamingOnLinux [18:09] DaemonFC She'll be pregnant in a month and Illinois' answer is just get rid of it, and whichever one of them passed her around and left her that way will just get away with it. The whole conversation was just revolting to listen to and they were so loud with it that you could hear it on the whole train car. Thought about calling the police, but they're lazy and corrupt and they'd probably transfer me around ten times and say "What do you want us to do [18:09] DaemonFC about it?" and hang up. [18:10] schestowitz-TR yeah [18:10] schestowitz-TR they did nothing illegal [18:11] DaemonFC I'm torn between sympathy and no sympathy. Some people just have to make their own mistakes. Illinois mandates fact-based sex ed so it's not a mystery what could happen if you take risks. [18:11] schestowitz-TR tell them, "I got a doughnut on a fishinf rod right here" [18:11] schestowitz-TR they'd come right over [18:11] DaemonFC Maybe that's the best you can do. [18:11] DaemonFC tell them, "I got a doughnut on a fishinf rod right here" [18:11] DaemonFC LOL [18:12] DaemonFC Found you a donut! [18:12] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Then the Illinois legislature, in their infinite wisdom, made it illegal to conceal and carry on public transit. [18:13] techrights-news #NXP i.MX RT500 Cortex-M33 Crossover MCU integrates DSP, 2D GPU for wearables and IoT devices - CNX Software https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/09/04/nxp-i-mx-rt500-cortex-m33-crossover-mcu-integrates-dsp-2d-gpu-for-wearables-and-iot-devices/ #Linux #GNU #Hardware #cnxsoftware [18:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | NXP i.MX RT500 Cortex-M33 Crossover MCU integrates DSP, 2D GPU for wearables and IoT devices - CNX Software [18:13] DaemonFC I wonder how many incidents onboard public transit where some criminal felon gets on and starts blowing people away (including a Metra cop at least once), could have been stopped by an armed citizen. [18:14] DaemonFC The whole reason you pass all of the background checks is because you're not crazy and you don't have a felony record. [18:14] schestowitz-TR that assumes criminals respect these laws [18:14] DaemonFC I'm surprised there aren't more incidents on Metra, to be perfectly honest, given some of the areas that they serve. [18:14] schestowitz-TR do they have metal detectors at each and every station? [18:14] schestowitz-TR for bullets? [18:15] DaemonFC No, anyone can get on with backpacks or luggage or anything. [18:15] schestowitz-TR you can also fire from non-metal weapons [18:15] DaemonFC No security screening at all. [18:15] schestowitz-TR so this law is meaningless [18:15] schestowitz-TR nobody enforces it [18:15] DaemonFC And most trains stop at 20 stations or more along the way, so even if they had security at the main stations, it wouldn't matter. [18:15] DaemonFC Some nutbag could wait for the first one with no screenings and get on there. [18:16] schestowitz-TR they should rectally examine each pasenger [18:16] schestowitz-TR just in case... [18:16] schestowitz-TR *passenger [18:18] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, The movie Source Code was pretty much accurate, except that it was filmed on several different metra lines and they didn't call it metra. [18:18] DaemonFC They changed it to "Chicago Commuter Rail" for the movie. [18:19] DaemonFC But the guy just walks in and plants a bomb in one of the restrooms or something and then gets off at the next stop. [18:19] DaemonFC Also, they changed some other things around. [18:19] DaemonFC There's no "locked compartments" where the conductors have guns or anything. [18:20] DaemonFC The spot where the train always ends up blowing up until he figures it out is near the 35th Lou Jones stop on the Rock Island District next to I-94. [18:21] schestowitz-TR US will become Kabul [18:21] schestowitz-TR good luck.. [18:21] DaemonFC That actually wouldn't be the best target. [18:21] techrights-news #Games: SuperTuxKart, Proton, Humble Humongous Back To School Bundle http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155276 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [18:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: SuperTuxKart, Proton, Humble Humongous Back To School Bundle | Tux Machines [18:21] schestowitz-TR sorry: [18:22] schestowitz-TR US is ALREADY becoming Kabul [18:22] schestowitz-TR BUT... [18:22] DaemonFC Depending on the time of day, that would usually be a blue line CTA train near the airport. [18:22] schestowitz-TR At least the default branch name in shit hub is "main" [18:22] techrights-news Today in #Techrights http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155277 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [18:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines [18:22] DaemonFC Or at least before COVID. [18:22] DaemonFC They would stuff so many people in there that the train could barely get the doors shut. [18:22] DaemonFC And then run them with 5 cars. [18:22] schestowitz-TR so you can sleep a lot better at night (despite the distant gun shots) [18:22] DaemonFC 6 even. [18:23] DaemonFC Plus, they frequently pass one another. [18:23] DaemonFC So if the guy timed it right, the force could actually knock the other train off and cause a derailment. [18:24] DaemonFC I actually sat down and thought about that after watching the movie. [18:24] gustaf lol bit of a wiki dive in pre-war fascist movements in the US [18:24] techrights-news #biden is drone-striking whole families now (even kids), but the kids will be happy and relived to know that the branch name for the drone code is "main" and not "master" [18:24] gustaf the "Christian Front" (Irish-American antisemites) had a paper called "Social Justice" [18:25] schestowitz-TR ouch [18:25] schestowitz-TR I'm sure adding "Warrior" would soften it [18:25] schestowitz-TR :-) [18:26] *Achylles (~Achylles_@2804:431:d724:131a:afba:e8f4:a787:4346) has joined #techrights [18:27] *Achylles has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [18:28] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, The gas taxes do seem to be compelling some people to take Metra. [18:28] DaemonFC Back in January they were running entire trains with half a dozen people onboard sometimes, for a train that could hold several hundred. [18:28] gustaf lol [18:28] DaemonFC Just to keep their schedules going. And that's after they stopped running every hour and started running every 2 hours. [18:29] *Achylles (~Achylles_@2804:431:d724:131a:afba:e8f4:a787:4346) has joined #techrights [18:29] DaemonFC We had a very bad snowstorm in January, and it was so bad that I didn't dare drive to Chicago to make our appointment with Immigration, and our attorney's office was right by the Metra track too. [18:30] DaemonFC So we met her on the train and then walked to the USCIS building with her. [18:30] schestowitz-TR MetRAHM [18:30] DaemonFC I had never seen the city so dead. Between the lockdown from COVID< the foul weather, etc.... [18:30] DaemonFC Just total ghost town. [18:30] schestowitz-TR not much comew out of it anymore [18:31] schestowitz-TR excet a gush of bad news [18:31] schestowitz-TR and police footage [18:31] DaemonFC "If I get Corona, I get Corona. It's not gonna stop me from partying!" -Florida Man [18:31] DaemonFC Now we're back to 2,000 Americans dying every day of it. [18:31] schestowitz-TR people go to retire in FL [18:31] schestowitz-TR they now lock themselves up in condos [18:31] schestowitz-TR some "RETIREMENT", eh? [18:31] DaemonFC So it wasn't just one guy and the lockdowns didn't matter much and nobody is going to tolerate them again. [18:32] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Mom's landlord moved to a gated community in Florida to hide from it. [18:32] schestowitz-TR makes sense [18:32] schestowitz-TR old people there do take it seriously [18:32] DaemonFC I told her that's like hiding from the serial killer in a horror movie behind all the rusty chainsaws. [18:32] schestowitz-TR even some trump voters [18:32] DaemonFC Oh, no he didn't. [18:33] schestowitz-TR they're not ALL senile [18:33] DaemonFC He had some of his rich friends over for a dinner party and all 7 of them had it. [18:33] DaemonFC Because 1 person showed up and had it. [18:33] DaemonFC This was way, way before Delta too. [18:33] schestowitz-TR that makes no sense [18:34] schestowitz-TR gated community [18:34] schestowitz-TR but then party of 7 [18:34] DaemonFC If you're going to hide from the virus, hide from the virus. [18:34] schestowitz-TR does his brain get cut in half? [18:34] DaemonFC He's a landlord. [18:34] schestowitz-TR we hide forom it [18:34] DaemonFC You know "I'm a job creator. I cheat on my taxes and extract rents from productive people with the best of them! I voted for President Trump!" [18:34] schestowitz-TR it is not hard for us [18:35] DaemonFC Irony is a landlord who sits on his ass and waits for checks in the mail criticizing people on welfare for sitting on their asses and waiting for checks in the mail. [18:36] schestowitz-TR yeah [18:36] schestowitz-TR you are not employed [18:36] schestowitz-TR but you moan about unemployed people [18:36] schestowitz-TR so yeah... I know that type [18:37] DaemonFC There's little risk in being a landlord. You have lawyers to handle evictions, repair men who know how to keep your buildings going just good enough to rent out, and people who work and pay you to live in a building you do nothing except own. [18:38] DaemonFC Even less risk because everyone has to come up with a security deposit. [18:38] DaemonFC So if they ruin anything, you usually are covered by that up to at least the value of a month's worth of rent. [18:39] DaemonFC Really all you need to get rolling as a landlord is some seed money and then you accumulate profit and buy more units and rent those out, and so on. [18:40] DaemonFC And then you consult the Rules of Acquisition, cheapest binding, straight from the planet Ferenginar if you have any further questions. [18:40] *alextee has quit (Quit: Leaving) [18:41] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Star Trek is great stuff, isn't it? They promote how great socialism is, and then when they find people bittorrenting Star Trek they threaten to sue them into the ground and have them thrown off the internet. [18:41] DaemonFC They created something, damn it, and they deserve to be paid! A lot! [18:44] DaemonFC Speaking of Ferengi, I wonder how the in-laws are doing. [18:44] DaemonFC Buying Sam's Choice drinking water and pouring it into their vending machine to keep up appearances? [18:46] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, At least now I know for sure how to ride the South Shore Line. [18:46] DaemonFC Just forget the app entirely. The vending machines work fine, 100% of the time. [18:46] *schestowitz-TR back with coffee [18:46] *Achylles has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [18:46] DaemonFC There's at least two, maybe even four, at each station. [18:46] *Achylles (~Achylles_@2804:431:d724:131a:afba:e8f4:a787:4346) has joined #techrights [18:47] DaemonFC There's 0% chance they'd ALL be broken when you arrived. [18:47] DaemonFC And you can purchase return tickets at any working machine. [18:47] DaemonFC Cash, even. [18:47] schestowitz-TR true [18:47] schestowitz-TR that is what we do here [18:47] schestowitz-TR or did, before covid [18:47] schestowitz-TR it's called metrolink [18:48] DaemonFC I really like the trains. You get to look at the traffic jams underneath the freeway bridges and laugh at all the idiots stuck in one. [18:48] schestowitz-TR my hands are fast now and I know the gui so purchasing a ticket takes only seconds [18:48] DaemonFC Wasting gas, honking at each other, vacation time ticking away from them, smog.... [18:48] schestowitz-TR it takes longer for the machine to print and return coins (change) [18:49] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: traffic avoidance is how they market public transport [18:49] schestowitz-TR and give better lanes [18:49] schestowitz-TR but the issue is station [18:49] schestowitz-TR esp. if they stop at every one [18:49] DaemonFC The typical car uses about a gallon of gas for every hour idling. Plus they get horrible gas mileage when they stop and go or don't go very fast. [18:50] DaemonFC The best way to drive your car is nonstop going about 60 miles per hour, but that's rarely achievable unless you only use rural highways. [18:50] DaemonFC Even this 3800 V6 will get 34 miles per gallon on a freeway at 60 miles per hour, but once you get into the city it drops to 15-17. [18:51] schestowitz-TR cars are a mental overhead [18:51] schestowitz-TR you don't need to own everything [18:51] *alextee (~alextee@fu9znh3xmsrue.irc) has joined #techrights [18:51] schestowitz-TR it's expensive to maintain and mental clutter [18:51] schestowitz-TR taxis remove much of that [18:51] DaemonFC They've made it so here you kind of do. [18:51] schestowitz-TR you don't even need to worry about road incidents [18:51] schestowitz-TR the driver can dead with that after dropping you off [18:52] schestowitz-TR but taxis are now riskier because of the virus [18:52] DaemonFC But for long hauls involving the freeway, you can cut down on risk, expense, and mental and physical exhaustion by taking the train instead. [18:52] DaemonFC The whole point of taking a vacation or a day trip is to destress. [18:52] schestowitz-TR yeah [18:52] DaemonFC Why would you want to be stuck in traffic honking at other people? [18:52] schestowitz-TR sometimes we take day rider [18:52] schestowitz-TR on days off work, then travel all over [18:53] schestowitz-TR better than taking planes [18:53] schestowitz-TR planes were ok when I was a kd [18:53] schestowitz-TR *kid [18:53] schestowitz-TR each flight had a GOOD meal [18:53] schestowitz-TR better chairs and leg room [18:53] schestowitz-TR then it became all "economic" [18:53] DaemonFC I use apps sometimes, but I don't like doing it. [18:53] MinceR taxis are incredibly expensive [18:53] MinceR and most of them drive like maniacs [18:53] schestowitz-TR and they started treating you like terrorist, presumption of guilt [18:54] DaemonFC Whether they even work at all depend on the expertise of who designed it. [18:54] schestowitz-TR so the time on the ground was awful too [18:54] schestowitz-TR and then you have some Johns touching you [18:54] schestowitz-TR esp. if you are under 15 [18:54] schestowitz-TR MinceR: maybe in budapest [18:54] MinceR yes [18:54] schestowitz-TR you can choose company [18:54] MinceR i can [18:55] MinceR but they're all very expensive [18:55] DaemonFC So they run the entire gamut from not working to working fine, but even if they work fine, there's tracking libraries and crap. [18:55] schestowitz-TR MinceR: cheaper than buying a car [18:55] MinceR and i don't have a big enough sample from the companies i prefer to tell whether their drivers drive less like maniacs [18:55] schestowitz-TR unless you need a taxi every day [18:55] MinceR no, not really [18:55] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, The TSA used to have "VIPR teams". [18:55] MinceR try going out of the city via taxi and you'll find out how expensive it gets [18:55] DaemonFC Basically they squandered tax money to randomly check various stations and things. [18:55] schestowitz-TR yes, I remember [18:55] schestowitz-TR even bus stations [18:55] MinceR https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/app#Noun [18:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wiktionary.org | app - Wiktionary [18:55] schestowitz-TR incredible [18:56] DaemonFC So on the off chance a terrorist showed up on the day they were at the Greyhound station one time, then the VIPR team might catch him. [18:56] DaemonFC It was just ridiculous. [18:56] schestowitz-TR MinceR: I know, happened in Cyprus [18:56] schestowitz-TR I nearly missed my flight [18:56] schestowitz-TR took several taxis form city to city, cost me a fortune [18:56] schestowitz-TR I also lost my sunglasses in the process [18:56] schestowitz-TR and then paid for excess baggage [18:56] MinceR of course, people often take taxis to the airport here because nobody thought it would be useful to maybe connect it to the public transport network [18:56] DaemonFC "Those were five hundred dollar sunglasses, asshole!". [18:57] DaemonFC :) [18:57] schestowitz-TR about $2000 [18:57] schestowitz-TR a [18:57] schestowitz-TR *200 [18:57] schestowitz-TR a gift from rianne [18:57] MinceR there are 2 buses that go there, 1 of them is a massive scam [18:57] MinceR but buses in budapest are a health hazard [18:57] DaemonFC MinceR, There's some Ghetto Bus companies. [18:57] schestowitz-TR at least they didn't break so someone else enjoys them in cyprus [18:57] MinceR most of them are mercedes-benzes with the suspension of a wooden toy wagon [18:57] MinceR you can feel every single pebble on the road [18:57] DaemonFC They're mostly for hauling black people around major cities when they can't afford a Greyhound ticket. [18:58] schestowitz-TR MinceR: buses are full of unpleasant people [18:58] MinceR and the roads here are nearly unusably crap [18:58] MinceR that too [18:58] schestowitz-TR a bus without people is OK [18:58] DaemonFC Like, they go from Chicago to Milwaukee for $29 or something. [18:58] MinceR and then the alleged "journalists" are outraged that offroad-capable cars are somehow popular here [18:58] schestowitz-TR buses are build to carry loads of people [18:58] MinceR not a mercedes-benz citaro [18:58] schestowitz-TR they make the false assumption many people without cars can co-exist for a bus ride's length of time [18:58] MinceR or sprinter, though those are crap in a different way [18:58] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Mega Bus or Tornado Bus or whatever is sort of the bus version of Spirit airlines. [18:59] DaemonFC Where all the people pack their shit in trash bags and have bedbugs spilling out of them in the airport. [18:59] schestowitz-TR lol [18:59] schestowitz-TR literal trash bags? [18:59] schestowitz-TR we reuse bags from stores for trash ● Sep 04 [19:00] MinceR strangely enough, the buses in berlin were fine [19:00] MinceR there's no pathological obsession with low floor buses [19:00] MinceR maybe that's why [19:00] schestowitz-TR those are cheaper [19:00] schestowitz-TR and no suitcases to stuff under [19:00] schestowitz-TR for longer journeys and high-speed driving [19:00] schestowitz-TR with seatbelts and all [19:01] schestowitz-TR the trains in berlin weren't that good or special, but they can go fast [19:01] MinceR and of course public transport is a non-starter outside the city [19:01] MinceR not to mention off-road :> [19:01] schestowitz-TR legs are good [19:01] schestowitz-TR unless you are old and frail [19:01] MinceR yeah, if you like to explore a tiny fraction of the area, and always the same fraction [19:02] schestowitz-TR legs can go around 5 times, on average, the speed of car+traffic [19:02] DaemonFC literal trash bags? [19:02] MinceR depends on the traffic [19:02] DaemonFC Yes, according to John. [19:02] MinceR i like places where there is no traffic and no people [19:02] schestowitz-TR you can find them not far from here [19:02] schestowitz-TR we go to one Wednesday [19:02] MinceR maybe we will too [19:03] schestowitz https://www.manchester.gov.uk/directory_record/89202/clayton_vale/category/301/all_parks_playgrounds_and_open_spaces [19:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.manchester.gov.uk | Parks and open spaces - Clayton Vale | Manchester City Council [19:03] MinceR i'm tired of "parks" and "open spaces" in budapest [19:03] MinceR they're full of people [19:03] schestowitz maybe they are small [19:03] MinceR and they have their dogs shit all over the place [19:03] schestowitz this one is the biggest in Manchester [19:04] schestowitz-TR platt fields might be bigger, but overcrowded and without forest [19:05] schestowitz-TR overcrowded might be ok [19:05] schestowitz-TR if overcrowded by non-human anim,ls [19:05] schestowitz-TR like fowl and rabbits/squirrels [19:06] schestowitz-TR MinceR: maybe those are lawns [19:06] schestowitz-TR fake parks, not nature [19:06] MinceR no, they are not [19:06] MinceR hills and valleys between them that happen to be within budapest's boundaries [19:06] schestowitz-TR so that sucks [19:06] MinceR still, they're accessible (they have far better public transport than the part of the city i live in) and so they're swarming with people [19:06] schestowitz-TR london is like that [19:06] schestowitz-TR all the parks suck [19:07] schestowitz-TR it is mostly grass [19:07] schestowitz-TR green park, hyde park, regents [19:07] MinceR the place i'm speaking about is mostly forest [19:07] schestowitz-TR and too many people and dog droppings [19:07] MinceR though the path up to the top of the hill is a wide trail of dust, trampled by human feet [19:07] schestowitz-TR lol [19:08] schestowitz-TR try Budha-fest [19:08] schestowitz-TR or japanese gardens [19:08] MinceR i'm trying living outside the city [19:08] schestowitz-TR MinceR: groceries are hard [19:08] MinceR but not having a car is pretty much a no-go there [19:08] schestowitz-TR without a car [19:08] MinceR not that hard [19:08] MinceR oh, yeah, without a car, sure [19:08] MinceR but so's everything else [19:08] schestowitz-TR yeah [19:09] schestowitz-TR and cars have massive overhead to a life [19:09] MinceR and the proposed solution is to have billions of humans live in a hive [19:09] schestowitz-TR kids also tend to necessitate them [19:09] MinceR that's not for me [19:09] schestowitz-TR unless you home-school the kids [19:09] MinceR reducing overpopulation is, of course, unthinkable [19:10] schestowitz-TR well, ought not be [19:10] schestowitz-TR i speak about it every week [19:10] schestowitz-TR RMS spoke about it in his last talk [19:10] schestowitz-TR got attacked for it [19:10] schestowitz-TR may 31st [19:10] schestowitz-TR he told brazilian catholic hackers about it [19:10] MinceR i know [19:10] schestowitz-TR go figure... [19:10] schestowitz-TR wrong audience [19:11] schestowitz-TR they go like, this is not good for the movement [19:11] schestowitz-TR rms goes, [19:11] MinceR an audience on the "let's beat the other cults by outbreeding them" side [19:11] schestowitz-TR but this is more important than my movement [19:11] schestowitz-TR they don't want to hear, "remind me next generation" [19:11] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 19.88 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 103.31 swarm size (avg): 263.53 [19:11] schestowitz-TR MinceR: religion [19:11] MinceR indeed [19:11] schestowitz-TR that's what I respect scandinavia for [19:12] schestowitz-TR their asylum seeking policy then begets trouble [19:12] schestowitz-TR sometimes eu-imposed [19:12] schestowitz-TR but norway shows even outside eu it happens [19:12] schestowitz-TR get asylum seeker to sign, "I will not have more than 2 kids" [19:13] schestowitz-TR social solidarity, nothing personal [19:13] DaemonFC Many people home school if they can afford to so their kids don't end up like that girl on the train last night. [19:13] schestowitz-TR it's not eugenics if the locals mostly obey those guidelines non-contractually... some in singapore, japan, and s korea [19:13] DaemonFC The Christians aren't entirely wrong. [19:14] DaemonFC You expose your kids to corruption that goes on in the public schools because the politicians don't particularly care if it does, what do you expect them to turn into? [19:14] schestowitz-TR the problem is the C [19:14] schestowitz-TR capitalism [19:14] schestowitz-TR not catholicism [19:14] schestowitz-TR but both want growth [19:14] kingoffrance ^ national debt demands "Growth" ^^^ [19:14] schestowitz-TR the church and the corporations [19:14] schestowitz-TR the c word [19:14] MinceR so the solution is to expose the kids to christian corruption in schools instead? [19:14] kingoffrance "growth" needs squeezed out of everyone [19:14] DaemonFC ^ national debt demands "Growth" ^^^ [19:15] MinceR hungary does that already [19:15] schestowitz-TR corporaitons, cathlics (not only), church, capitalism [19:15] MinceR chuck norris was campaigning for that in the usa [19:15] DaemonFC Good for it. If it's not paying for me to have kids, and expects me to suffer more to have some, it shouldn't be shocked that I won't have any. [19:15] schestowitz-TR so if you dare suggest the number of cult followers of consumers (two more C's!!) will decrease they lose their marbles [19:15] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, MinceR, Unreasonable attitude? [19:15] DaemonFC Mom and dad seem to think so for some reason. [19:15] kingoffrance i dont have a solution, its just like the 'debt limit' the way its set up, all the talk is fluff, the only option is 1) borrow more, pay later [19:15] DaemonFC Like it's my job to suffer to keep this termite infested wood bridge propped up. [19:16] schestowitz-TR kingoffrance: yes, debt too [19:16] kingoffrance while we are here... [19:16] DaemonFC They keep pitching Atlas Shrugged, but then they're shocked when individualism catches on and people realize that having kids is not good for them in the short term and don't do it. [19:16] schestowitz-TR more labour/workforce for more perceived capitale [19:17] schestowitz-TR every baby born has perceived value attached to it [19:17] DaemonFC If there are less people bidding for the jobs, then they have to pay more. [19:17] MinceR yeah, i don't get why fundies pitch atlas shrugged [19:17] MinceR maybe they didn't understand the book? [19:17] schestowitz-TR fewer births mean less future "capital" [19:17] kingoffrance a supposed "jubilee" is supposed to reset (at least some) kind of debts every generation or so, 50 years or so. [19:17] DaemonFC Having kids reduces your ability to go out and earn money and spend on your own needs. [19:17] kingoffrance i mean, "religion" was not supposed to let debts accumulate for generations... [19:18] DaemonFC And it raises the amount you need to break the poverty line for your household, even though those kids won't earn any money. [19:18] kingoffrance we get fake "jubilees" nowadays [19:18] DaemonFC So it means more strain on you and your budget, and you can't earn more money at some point even though you can have more kids. [19:18] schestowitz-TR recently, biden 'pardoned' severely disabled people [19:18] schestowitz-TR I keep joking about it not because of disabilities [19:18] schestowitz-TR but because the debt lenders know it is lost money [19:19] kingoffrance "They keep pitching Atlas Shrugged, but then they're shocked when individualism catches on and people realize that having kids is not good for them in the short term and don't do it." lol unintended consequences maybe [19:19] schestowitz-TR those people can rarely find any gainful employment [19:19] schestowitz-TR so biden takes the chance to do a winning lap, claiming to forgive people who can never pay back the money regardless [19:19] DaemonFC The recent anti-abortion scramble is to try to shore up the damage they did to their own states and future population growth. [19:19] schestowitz-TR has biden reversed trump's tax breaks the rich yet? :-D :-D [19:19] schestowitz-TR Bye-den [19:19] schestowitz-TR more of the same [19:20] DaemonFC The thinking must go that if they can force more kids on people who didn't mean to have them and would abort them if they could, it'll make up for the birthrate collapse. [19:20] DaemonFC The only problem is those kids will be born into poverty and all sorts of problems that go along with it. [19:20] schestowitz-TR I watch the shitshow :-) [19:20] schestowitz-TR or as Carlin put it [19:20] schestowitz-TR when you are born you get a tickey to the freak show [19:20] schestowitz-TR in American, you get a front row seat [19:21] schestowitz-TR I go get the popcorn [19:21] schestowitz-TR while I worry not about cars and kids and all that crap [19:21] schestowitz-TR I just need $150 laptops [19:21] schestowitz-TR pay the energy bill and discounted food [19:21] schestowitz-TR our budget for food is about 100 per month [19:21] schestowitz-TR 100 pounds [19:21] schestowitz-TR 3 pounds a day [19:21] schestowitz-TR 2 people [19:22] schestowitz-TR we cook at home, so it's also just water and energy bills [19:22] DaemonFC Borisanaro seems to have you in the same boat. [19:22] schestowitz-TR water+ electricity about 100 a month [19:22] DaemonFC So I'm not sure exactly why you'd laugh. [19:22] schestowitz-TR broadband around 30 a month [19:23] DaemonFC He's taking the NHS and slowly turning it into Obamacare. [19:23] schestowitz-TR so all the basics covered at very little, now that we don't go to the gym either [19:23] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: NHS covers everyone [19:23] DaemonFC For now it does, kind of. [19:23] DaemonFC They budget cut the regions that serve the poor. [19:23] DaemonFC But "everyone is equal", you know. [19:24] schestowitz-TR they attack it yes, [19:24] DaemonFC I wonder if they can take a train and use their benefits in a rich neighborhood to get better treatment. [19:24] schestowitz-TR it has been around for like 70 years [19:24] schestowitz-TR we'll likely change leadership in the coming decade [19:25] DaemonFC Hmm, that's a smaller shopping list than I thought it was. [19:25] DaemonFC I'm throwing Salisbury Steaks in the slow cooker tomorrow. Today we'll just stop at the sandwich shop. [19:25] schestowitz-TR sandwich shop? [19:25] DaemonFC Restaurants are the bonus category until the end of October so we're eating out more than usual. [19:25] DaemonFC Yeah, Potbelly's. [19:25] schestowitz-TR you realise you pay for a couple slices of bread or a bun [19:26] schestowitz-TR for the price of a whole pack [19:26] kingoffrance you also got a sabbath after 6 years, 1 year the land shall have a sabbath rest, jubilee was 7*7 == 49/50. so we get "the lord" law minus the financial rules. you get as much "religion" that doesnt conflict with finance [19:26] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: Restaurants when thousands drop dead per day [19:26] kingoffrance 1 year off work every 6 years? [19:26] DaemonFC What I totally don't get is people going to Subway. [19:26] schestowitz-TR what did you order, the Darwin dish? [19:26] DaemonFC The place is just disgusting. [19:26] MinceR maybe you have different subways over there [19:27] DaemonFC Oh, well, after three doses of the vaccine I would hope that the virus isn't really that much of a threat for the timebeing. [19:27] MinceR they're decent over here [19:27] DaemonFC bbiab [19:27] schestowitz-TR MinceR: the food [19:27] MinceR or at least were, the last time i went there [19:27] schestowitz-TR subway: [19:27] schestowitz-TR piece of bread $2 [19:28] schestowitz-TR mustard 50 cents [19:28] schestowitz-TR some letuce/cabbage/tomato 1 dollar [19:28] MinceR they don't charge for sauce around here [19:28] schestowitz-TR a thin piece of cured 'meat' $1 [19:28] schestowitz-TR that'll be $5, mr. farmer [19:29] schestowitz-TR MinceR: and they toss is soda 'drink' [19:29] schestowitz-TR *in [19:29] schestowitz-TR "no thanks, is the water in the bathrooms drink-safe?" [19:29] schestowitz-TR "yes, but we don't pay Coca Cola for it" [19:30] MinceR you don't have to buy a soda [19:30] schestowitz-TR "here, have some mineral plastic from a brand owned by Coca Cola" [19:30] schestowitz-TR MinceR: it's almost the same price [19:30] schestowitz-TR they do "meal deals" [19:30] schestowitz-TR they penalise people who don't buy the "full dead" [19:30] schestowitz-TR *deal [19:30] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:30] schestowitz-TR so they tell you what diets won't have you penalised [19:31] schestowitz-TR in some places they compel you to eat very fatty potatoes [19:31] schestowitz-TR sometimes rice is an option [19:31] MinceR or you get a discount for certain combinations [19:31] MinceR or you just don't go there :> [19:32] techrights-news #Samsung also does explosives, so this could be worse (not just Note 9) https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Samsung-860-870-More-Quirks [19:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Samsung 860/870 SSDs Continue Causing Problems For Linux Users - Phoronix [19:32] schestowitz-TR MinceR: I choose the second [19:32] schestowitz-TR they can drown in their trans-fats and ddt [19:33] schestowitz-TR they also help target overpopulation [19:33] schestowitz-TR shorter lives, lower fertility [19:33] schestowitz-TR I don't like it when our employer buys us this crap [19:33] schestowitz-TR and the "healthy" options are equally crap [19:34] schestowitz-TR or they don't even ask you [19:34] schestowitz-TR because "telly" tells them everyone LOVES "mcdonalds" or whatevert... [19:34] MinceR everything is "unhealthy" [19:34] schestowitz-TR to varying degrees [19:34] MinceR just eat sawdust and drink water [19:34] MinceR live long so you can suffer more [19:35] schestowitz-TR sawdust is edible? :) [19:35] schestowitz-TR what is it a dust OF? [19:35] MinceR sure [19:35] MinceR at least once [19:35] MinceR just like every mushroom is edible, at least once [19:35] schestowitz-TR some are OK for many times [19:36] schestowitz MinceR: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99x4i9858RQ [19:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Bear (1988) - Bear Eats Magic Mushrooms - YouTube [19:36] *alextee has quit (Quit: Leaving) [19:37] schestowitz-TR it is a very cute scene [19:37] schestowitz Squirrel after eating some bad mushrooms - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=en4aISQgr78 [19:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Squirrel after eating some bad mushrooms - Invidious [19:40] techrights-news "I have released my hacked-together Gemini client for the Kindle 4 non-touch. It uses a modified version of the Gneto proxy to allow browsing Gemini from the Kindle's built-in browser." https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/007087.html [19:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | [users] Gemini client for the Kindle 4 NT [19:41] techrights-news #XOrg Looks To Drop DMX After Being Rather Broken For ~14 Years - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=DMX-DDX-Dropping-2021 #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/09/04/#latest [19:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-X.Org Looks To Drop DMX After Being Rather Broken For ~14 Years - Phoronix [19:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [19:41] techrights-news Another goodbye to #freenode https://openwrt.org/register_yourself_in_the_wiki?rev=1630746130&do=diff [19:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-openwrt.org | [OpenWrt Wiki] Register yourself in the wiki [19:42] techrights-news "KDE Frameworks provides a syntax highlighting engine with support for more than 300 different configuration, markup and programming languages, known for example for its use in Kate. With #KDE Frameworks 5.86 this is now also directly usable from withing #QML ." https://www.volkerkrause.eu/2021/09/04/kf5-syntax-highlighting-in-qml.html [19:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.volkerkrause.eu | Using KSyntaxHighlighting in QML [19:44] techrights-news "Flat-File CMSs (content management systems) have always been a fascination for me. They don't require database to work and usually work out-of-the-box with low-resource server and a minimal requirement." #freesw #Automad (I've not checked licensing) https://medevel.com/automad-a-flat-file-cms-with-style/ [19:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-medevel.com | Automad: An Open-source Flat-file CMS with style [19:46] techrights-news ERs overloaded when your population is dumb and politicians encourage stupidity https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/570730-doctor-says-ers-overwhelmed-with-people-overdosing-on-livestock [19:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Doctor says ERs overwhelmed with people overdosing on livestock drug ivermectin to treat COVID-19 | TheHill [19:48] techrights-news #Zammad : Free self-hosted ticketing support system https://medevel.com/zammad-help-ticket-system/ "GNU AFFERO General Public License (GNU AGPLv3)." [19:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-medevel.com | Zammad: Free self-hosted ticketing support system [19:49] techrights-news Juan A. Suarez: Implementing Performance Counters in #V3D driver https://blogs.igalia.com/jasuarez/2021/09/01/v3d-perfcounters/ #graphics #freesw [19:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.igalia.com | Implementing Performance Counters in V3D driver [19:55] techrights-news iRedMail: an #freesw #eMail Server for enterprise https://medevel.com/iredmail/ " #iRedMail is released and distributed under GPL v3." [19:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-medevel.com | iRedMail: an Open-source Mail Server for enterprise [19:55] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/21081036 [19:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5752168) [19:57] schestowitz-TR MinceR: it's very important to protect his man nipples [19:59] MinceR :> [19:59] MinceR they're sensitive, ok? [19:59] techrights-news "On September 1, 2021, Unified Patents added a new PATROLL contest, with a $2,000 cash prize, seeking prior art on U.S. #Patent No. 8,190,610." #patents like these are #fakepatents that #uspto granted anyway https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/9/3/2000-for-r2-solutions-an-acacia-subsidiary-prior-art see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Acacia [19:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unifiedpatents.com | $2,000 for R2 Solutions, an Acacia subsidiary, prior art Unified Patents [19:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Acacia - Techrights [19:59] schestowitz-TR MinceR: they are purposeless ● Sep 04 [20:00] schestowitz-TR he does not lactate [20:00] MinceR the skin is still more vulnerable there [20:00] schestowitz-TR lungs and heard [20:00] schestowitz-TR *heart [20:02] MinceR also, it's magical armor [20:02] techrights-news When products being made in #russia is a badge of honour which merits #monopoly https://www.mondaq.com/russianfederation/trademark/1106032/geographical-indications-in-russia-federal-law-230-fz-of-26-july-2019 [20:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | Geographical Indications In Russia: Federal Law 230-FZ Of 26 July 2019 - Intellectual Property - Russian Federation [20:02] MinceR it probably needs all of it parts to be worn properly for it to function properly [20:02] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:03] techrights-news This is now how it was originally marketed to people https://pink.pharmaintelligence.informa.com/PS144884/Coronavirus-Notebook-No-Urgent-Need-For-Booster-Vaccines-But-EU--UK-Advise-Additional-Doses-In-Immunocompromised see explanation in http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/08/19/covid19-communication-strategy/ [20:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://pink.pharmaintelligence.informa.com/PS144884/Coronavirus-Notebook-No-Urgent-Need-For-Booster-Vaccines-But-EU--UK-Advise-Additional-Doses-In-Immunocompromised ) [20:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Vaccination is Good, But the Current Vaccination Strategy (of Overwhelming Fear/Hysteria) Will Fail to Convince Sceptical People [20:03] techrights-news This is NOT how it was originally marketed to people https://pink.pharmaintelligence.informa.com/PS144884/Coronavirus-Notebook-No-Urgent-Need-For-Booster-Vaccines-But-EU--UK-Advise-Additional-Doses-In-Immunocompromised see explanation in http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/08/19/covid19-communication-strategy/ [20:04] schestowitz-TR MinceR: at least he will die sexy or "drop dead gorgeous" [20:04] MinceR :> [20:04] MinceR i'd say neither [20:04] MinceR but presumably the "+3 DEF" was worth it [20:05] techrights-news #uk becoming less of a #vaccine #monopoly for #astrazeneca https://pink.pharmaintelligence.informa.com/PS144816/Coronavirus-Notebook-UK-OKs-Moderna-Vaccine-For-Younger-People-New-Study-Says-Pfizer--AZ-Vaccines-Effective-Against-Delta-Variant but they target the young when many adults are still not taking any [20:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://pink.pharmaintelligence.informa.com/PS144816/Coronavirus-Notebook-UK-OKs-Moderna-Vaccine-For-Younger-People-New-Study-Says-Pfizer--AZ-Vaccines-Effective-Against-Delta-Variant ) [20:06] techrights-news Copyrightability of a Programming Language https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/08/copyrightability-programming-language.html letting judges WHO DO NOT KNOW HOW TO CODE DECIDE ON VERY IMPORTANT ISSUES!!! #programming #copyright [20:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | Copyrightability of a Programming Language | Patently-O [20:08] techrights-news #microsoft is, as usual, hiding in "GitHub" clothing when it suits its #lobbying agenda. #deletegithub #gplviolations #criminals [20:08] *inky_ has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [20:09] techrights-news 9 Best Free and Open Source Audio Converters http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155278 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [20:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 9 Best Free and Open Source Audio Converters | Tux Machines [20:09] techrights-news 20 GNOME Extensions To Perfectly Balance GNOME 40 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155279 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [20:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 20 GNOME Extensions To Perfectly Balance GNOME 40 | Tux Machines [20:09] *inky_ (~inky@5.77.199.203) has joined #techrights [20:11] techrights-news We'll soon (a couple of months) have 2,000 known gemini capsules out there (public and spidered). #geminiSpace gaining traction. New (past hour): https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/007088.html [20:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | [users] Capsule announcement: alsd.eu [20:13] techrights-news #NVIDIA Confirms Sway #Wayland Compositor Works Fine With Their New GBM Driver Support - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NVIDIA-GBM-Works-With-Sway #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux [20:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NVIDIA Confirms Sway Wayland Compositor Works Fine With Their New GBM Driver Support - Phoronix [20:14] techrights-news Meet Roamer, a companion robot that charges itself | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/09/04/meet-roamer-a-companion-robot-that-charges-itself/ #Arduino #Hardware #OpenHardware #Hacking | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/09/04/#latest [20:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | Meet Roamer, a companion robot that charges itself | Arduino Blog [20:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [20:17] techrights-news #Linux #Kernel 5.15 will integrate #NTFS3 driver to better support NTFS file system https://www.itsfoss.net/linux-5-15-will-integrate-ntfs3-driver/ [20:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux Kernel 5.15 will integrate NTFS3 driver to better support NTFS file system - itsfoss.net [20:22] techrights-news #Linux patch disables TRIM and NCQ on Samsung 860/870 SSDs in #Intel and #AMD systems - Neowin https://www.neowin.net/news/linux-patch-disables-trim-and-ncq-on-samsung-860870-ssds-in-intel-and-amd-systems/ #neowin | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/09/04/#latest [20:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.neowin.net | Linux patch disables TRIM and NCQ on Samsung 860/870 SSDs in Intel and AMD systems - Neowin [20:22] techrights-news Killing the dreaded #hamburgermenu #Kalendar devlog 13 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155280 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [20:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Killing the dreaded hamburger menu Kalendar devlog 13 | Tux Machines [20:22] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155281 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [20:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [20:23] techrights-news "Some US right-wing fanatics hate the US government so unthinkingly that they love the Taliban simply for defeating the US." https://stallman.org/archives/2021-jul-oct.html#4_September_2021_%28Right-wing_fanatics_that_love_the_Taliban%29 [20:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | 2021: July - October Political Notes - Richard Stallman [20:25] techrights-news "Children often catch Covid-19 nowadays, and since vaccines are not ready for them, when they go to school they tend to spread it to each other. It was recently announced that 1/7 of the children who catch Covid-19 have disability months later." https://stallman.org/archives/2021-jul-oct.html#4_September_2021_%28Children_spreading_Covid-19%29 [20:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | 2021: July - October Political Notes - Richard Stallman [20:26] techrights-news "Given this, and the high transmissibility of the SARS-CoV-2 Delta variant, exponential growth will probably continue until millions more people are infected, leaving hundreds of thousands of people with long-term illness and disability." http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/07/20/mass-infection/ [20:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Mass infection is not an option: we must do more to protect our young [20:26] techrights-news #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155282 #Linux #TuxMachines [20:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [20:30] AdmFubar yea! to no more hamburger menu! [20:30] techrights-news Final U.S. Soldiers In Afghanistan Do Some Last-Second Nation-Building On Way To Plane. https://www.theonion.com/final-u-s-soldiers-in-afghanistan-do-some-last-second-1847591296 #theonion #satire [20:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theonion.com | Final U.S. Soldiers In Afghanistan Do Some Last-Second Nation-Building On Way To Plane [20:30] AdmFubar now to always have search available and buried in a sub menu [20:31] techrights-news "50,000 attended the Boardmasters festival in the UK, and 5,000 caught Covid-19." https://stallman.org/archives/2021-jul-oct.html#4_September_2021_%28Boardmasters_festival%29 just what 'doctor' #borisnaro ordered: http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/07/20/mass-infection/ [20:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | 2021: July - October Political Notes - Richard Stallman [20:33] schestowitz-TR AdmFubar: they will rename it "MAIN menu" [20:33] schestowitz-TR to not offend or shock vegetarians [20:35] MinceR lol [20:35] schestowitz-TR in some software I wrote I called it "PATRON" [20:35] schestowitz-TR IIRC [20:35] schestowitz-TR the main menu [20:35] schestowitz http://schestowitz.com/Projects/AART/ [20:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | AART: Autonomous Appearance-based Registration Test-bed [20:36] schestowitz http://schestowitz.com/Projects/AART_Public/sshot2.jpg [20:36] schestowitz it's still not called that here [20:37] schestowitz maybe it was another program I wrote [20:37] schestowitz that was ages ago [20:37] schestowitz 2003-2004 ish [20:38] schestowitz-TR would be nice to call them "master" [20:38] schestowitz http://othellomaster.com/ [20:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-othellomaster.com | Othello Master [20:38] schestowitz older program of mine [20:38] schestowitz MASTER [20:39] schestowitz RMS should condemn IBM [20:39] schestowitz but.. [20:39] schestowitz Current FSF Pres, then its treasurer, raised money from IBM [20:39] schestowitz so it's unlikely they will "permit" RMS to say anything even remotely doubly-ungood about IBM [20:42] techrights-news #Kernel: Comparisons and Work on Linux Kernel 5.15 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155283 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [20:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: Comparisons and Work on Linux Kernel 5.15 | Tux Machines [20:43] techrights-news #Graphics: NVIDIA, V3D, Distributed Multi-Head X http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155284 #GPL #Linux #TuxMachines [20:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Graphics: NVIDIA, V3D, Distributed Multi-Head X | Tux Machines [20:44] gustaf like RMS has ever taken orders [20:44] schestowitz " #Apple has made a concession to pressure against its anticompetitive practices by allowing other companies to restrict users of their apps through their web sites, rather than through the Apple Store. The anticompetitive behavior that most restricts users is that they cant use alternate app stores with free software. In other words, that there cant be an F-Apple like F-Droid." [20:44] schestowitz https://stallman.org/archives/2021-jul-oct.html#4_September_2021_(Apple_store_restrictions) [20:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | 2021: July - October Political Notes - Richard Stallman [20:44] schestowitz gustaf: advice [20:44] schestowitz they try to limit how many things he says that become liability [20:44] schestowitz so some people advise him [20:45] schestowitz he can ignore them, but likely would not [20:45] *techrights-news has quit (Received malformed line) [20:45] schestowitz he did in the past take my advice several times and even asked me for some [20:45] *techrights-news (~techrights-news@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [20:45] gustaf ah ok [20:46] schestowitz the idea that he's some unruly megalomaniac is promoted by his bashers [20:46] schestowitz he actually consults many people on many issues [20:46] gustaf thanks, I stand corrected [20:47] techrights-news #RMS on #texas : "The use of this method amounts to nullification of the constitutional rights of the accused for anything whatsoever. The method itself is tyranny, and it is supposed to be unconstitutional, but the US Supreme Court of today doesn't care." #scotus https://stallman.org/archives/2021-jul-oct.html#4_September_2021_%28Abortions_in_Texas%29 [20:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | 2021: July - October Political Notes - Richard Stallman [20:47] AdmFubar ooohhh there is a lot of ef-apple going around... :P [20:48] schestowitz-TR gustaf: they sweep for worst of the worst [20:48] schestowitz-TR like outbursts on a bad day [20:48] gustaf :( [20:48] schestowitz-TR or something he wrote in his site like 20 years ago, a blurb, not an article [20:48] schestowitz-TR he wrote like 100,000 of these [20:48] schestowitz-TR some do not age well [20:49] schestowitz-TR AdmFubar: much easier to read rms over rss again [20:49] AdmFubar :) [20:49] schestowitz-TR I did that over a decade ago, stopped as the volume was too much for me [20:51] techrights-news They should check not the client but the #vpn server https://www.itsfoss.net/mozilla-vpn-client-audit-results-published/ see http://techrights.org/2020/06/25/mozilla-comcast/ [20:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mozilla VPN Client Audit Results Published - itsfoss.net [20:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Mozilla Shames Itself and Harms Its Reputation by Stating That Comcast Has Taken Major Steps to Protect Customer Privacy | Techrights [20:54] techrights-news "It is no accident when a [ #police ] thug blinds someone with a rubber-coated metal bullet. If thugs followed their official rules, they would not hit anyone in the eye. Thugs shoot to maim anti-racist protesters because the thugs are racist, or right-wing, or both." https://stallman.org/archives/2021-jul-oct.html#4_September_2021_%28Blinded_by_thugs%29 [20:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | 2021: July - October Political Notes - Richard Stallman [20:55] techrights-news #marketing #propaganda by #managingip ... and guess who funds this #propagandaMill ("endorsements" on sale) https://www.managingip.com/article/b1tdcs0lc338q6/ip-stars-2021-copyright-firm-rankings-published [20:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | IP STARS 2021: Copyright firm rankings published | Managing Intellectual Property [20:56] *inky_ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [20:57] techrights-news "HEY HI" BS does not impress more honourable judges https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/only-humans-not-ai-machines-can-get-a-u-s-patent-judge-rules-1.1647694 [20:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bnnbloomberg.ca | Only Humans, Not AI Machines, Can Get a U.S. Patent, Judge Rules - BNN Bloomberg [20:58] techrights-news "Judge Leonie Brinkema of the Eastern District of Virginia shut down a suit against the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office by AI researcher Stephen Thaler" who is rick-rolling #patent systems all around the world, showing just how dumb #patents have become https://www.law360.com/technology/articles/1418666/only-humans-not-ai-can-be-an-inventor-va-judge-rules [20:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Only Humans, Not AI, Can Be An Inventor, Va. Judge Rules - Law360 ● Sep 04 [21:00] techrights-news " #GregPalast says that the lasting blackout of much of New Orleans was the result of malingering by the power company, Entergy. He says that the company profits from the losses caused by hurricanes, so it has stubbornly refused to take the necessary precautions to reduce damage." https://stallman.org/archives/2021-jul-oct.html#4_September_2021_%28New_Orleans_blackout%29 [21:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | 2021: July - October Political Notes - Richard Stallman [21:02] *inky_ (~inky@46.36.119.19) has joined #techrights [21:02] MinceR moral hazard [21:05] AdmFubar https://bengrosser.com/projects/minus/ [21:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bengrosser.com | Minus Ben Grosser [21:13] techrights-news RMS: "I don't think that consent can excuse a system of massive surveillance." https://stallman.org/archives/2021-jul-oct.html#4_September_2021_%28Texas_schools%29 #surveillance [21:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | 2021: July - October Political Notes - Richard Stallman [21:14] techrights-news "Hopefully, #kyndryl will not be burdened by the red tape bu-----t that is so prevalent in the old #IBM . The GTS folks who do all the hard lifting in the trenches are good people and deserve better than GR and AK!!!" [Rometty and Krishna] https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1cEUvEBh#replies [21:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | "Hire Kyndryl and soon you will be taking Benedryl" .. I can see the competition using this ! - post regarding IBM layoffs [21:15] MinceR (audio) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2021/08/17/a6e61843135230ef.mp4 [21:15] techrights-news #ibm and #microsoft : "market leaders"... in buying back their own shares, in effect defrauding shareholders. "Legalised" (by the rich) #embezzlement http://techrights.org/2021/07/31/azure-stagnating/ [21:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Azure Stagnating | Techrights [21:16] schestowitz LOLOLOL [21:17] schestowitz-TR MinceR: Popoff on LSD [21:17] schestowitz-TR looks like indonesia to me [21:17] *DaemonFC (~DaemonFC@58326zsrjzujg.irc) has joined #techrights [21:17] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2021/08/17/a6e61843135230ef.mp4 [21:17] schestowitz-TR Your dad, Felta [21:17] DaemonFC schestowitz, Actually, Potbelly's is like all restaurants lately. [21:17] XRevan86 MinceR: Is he trying to get cats to attack them? [21:17] schestowitz-TR in his Scientology\ audit [21:18] DaemonFC They're in trouble because of Delta and inflation. [21:18] MinceR lol [21:18] MinceR i think he's helping those people meditate or something [21:18] DaemonFC So they run promotions to get around people who are afraid to go in or balk at paying that much for restaurant food. [21:18] schestowitz-TR MinceR: reminds me of fake surgeries with chicken pieces [21:19] schestowitz-TR done a lot near there [21:19] XRevan86 MinceR: So that if they look up, they'll get a laser in their eyes? [21:19] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Because we went in today, they gave us a free milkshake because I have a loyalty card, then because we went in and bought sandwiches, the next visit, I get a free sandwich. [21:19] DaemonFC Then 5% back from Discover because it's a restaurant. [21:19] schestowitz-TR so sad to be in this sector [21:19] DaemonFC They're papering over the inflation for people who are price sensitive. [21:19] schestowitz-TR many places here gave up and shut down [21:20] DaemonFC It really doesn't cost that much if you know all of the ins and outs and take advantage of coupons. [21:20] schestowitz-TR it's cheaper to make at home [21:20] DaemonFC Also, they're hitting up people who buy soda at the restaurant worse than ever. [21:20] schestowitz-TR rianne started making veggie faggots [21:20] DaemonFC The Chinese buffet raised their price for a soda from $2.59 to $3.99. [21:20] DaemonFC And that's regardless of what time of day you go in. But water is free. [21:21] schestowitz-TR and pasta with veg-based Bologna stuff [21:21] schestowitz-TR tastes almost the same [21:21] MinceR XRevan86: better not look up, then [21:21] DaemonFC Buy two sodas and you just paid for an entire adult buffet that nobody got to eat. [21:21] DaemonFC And it costs them a few pennies in soda syrup. [21:21] schestowitz-TR [21:20] And that's regardless of what time of day you go in. But water is free. [21:21] schestowitz-TR for legal reasons [21:21] schestowitz-TR tap water [21:21] DaemonFC The buffet probably makes them 10-15% profit. [21:22] schestowitz-TR depends on the eater [21:22] DaemonFC The soda is probably 90%-95% profit. [21:22] schestowitz-TR they always lose on me [21:22] DaemonFC They water it down too. [21:22] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Yes, they put all of the cheap stuff at the outer edge of the buffets. [21:22] schestowitz-TR when couples come in they make more on the women [21:22] schestowitz-TR their eating capacity is, on average, lower [21:22] DaemonFC Oldest trick in the book. You put cheap stuff like rices, soups, and bread on the outer end of the buffet. [21:23] DaemonFC Then people fill up on that and not expensive veggies, seafood, and meat. [21:23] schestowitz-TR I got for the premium thingsa [21:23] schestowitz-TR again and again [21:23] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, I taught Mandy to work the buffet backwards. [21:23] schestowitz-TR I don't take drinks either [21:23] DaemonFC Start with the meats, veggies, and seafoods, and then end with some rice or noodles on what's left of the plate. [21:23] schestowitz-TR rianne does [21:24] DaemonFC By the time you get there, you use less than 10% of the plate on rice or noodles instead of like 30-40%. [21:24] schestowitz-TR you can always drink water if the binge-eating demands it [21:24] DaemonFC The soda is a double whammy. It is pure profit that also reduces buffet losses. [21:24] schestowitz-TR they can only give you weird looks for declining to order a beverage [21:24] DaemonFC They dial up the CO2 at buffets. [21:24] DaemonFC It's always fizzier than it is anywhere else. [21:25] schestowitz DaemonFC: http://schestowitz.com/royrianne/gallery/index.php/Rianne-s-37th-Birthday/City-Buffet [21:25] DaemonFC The gas fills up your stomach and you'll stop eating sooner, and leave. Then you get hungry later. [21:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | City Buffet [21:25] schestowitz at the end, lots of deserts [21:25] schestowitz until even deserts become disgusting [21:25] schestowitz and fruit, not the cheap ones [21:25] schestowitz http://schestowitz.com/royrianne/gallery/index.php/Rianne-s-37th-Birthday/City-Buffet/20150824_171038 [21:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | 20150824 171038 [21:25] schestowitz 3 rounds like these... [21:27] DaemonFC Looks like a nicer place than any of the buffet restaurants in these parts. [21:27] DaemonFC We stopped going to China Star because of that waitress that chased me down demanding a cash tip. I felt publicly embarrassed because I usually carry no cash. I always leave a nice tip at restaurants, but it's on the card like the food is. [21:28] techrights-news " #IBM just doesnt have the volumes" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1cyspOuw#replies [21:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Channels just got too big! - post regarding IBM layoffs [21:28] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: it is very cheap too [21:28] schestowitz-TR it was like 7 pounds per person at the time [21:28] schestowitz-TR depending on days of week and rime [21:28] schestowitz-TR time [21:28] schestowitz-TR lunch is cheaper [21:28] DaemonFC Yeah, go there for lunch (usually before 3:30) and it's about a third less expensive than dinner. [21:28] techrights-news "Channel and IBM ... you got me laughing. In AP there are almost none, a pity, what's there is just some resell. #IBM missed channel for the last 20 years and that's partially is why they are almost irrelevant today" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1cyspOuw#replies [21:29] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: it would be more expensive by now, more so with sanitary requirements on top [21:29] schestowitz-TR I'd not go to a place like this now [21:29] schestowitz-TR my friend david did not even back then [21:29] schestowitz-TR for the same reasons [21:29] schestowitz-TR he said the food is exposed [21:30] schestowitz-TR to germs [21:30] schestowitz-TR from many people [21:30] schestowitz-TR how true that became [21:30] DaemonFC I can only recall one time I didn't leave a tip. John and I went to that Azar's Big Boy in Fort Wayne for the breakfast buffet and the waitress sat us down and then totally forgot about us. Didn't bus our table, didn't even bring us any silverware. [21:30] schestowitz-TR he got seriously stomach poisoning in taipei and nearly died in hospital.. some shellfish [21:30] DaemonFC I had to go grab silverware for us from a cart that they left unattended. Coffee was at the back where the waitress should go and get it, and got it for everyone but us. [21:30] DaemonFC There was something going on there. [21:31] schestowitz-TR maybe they knew John was a pedo :-) [21:31] schestowitz-TR or that he works for TSA [21:31] schestowitz-TR not sure which one is worse [21:31] DaemonFC So when I got the bill, I wrote "You served everyone else here and not us. I had to do your job, so I am keeping the tip. $0.00". [21:32] schestowitz-TR goo! [21:32] schestowitz-TR good [21:32] DaemonFC Everywher else it's between 18-25%. [21:32] schestowitz-TR I didn't know in US you need to tip bartenders [21:32] schestowitz-TR a colleague had to tell me [21:32] DaemonFC Yeah, it's customary to do so. [21:32] schestowitz-TR here it doesn't work like this [21:33] DaemonFC Why do you think I don't drink in bars? [21:33] DaemonFC It's $5 per beer, and then you have to tip them another buck or two for each drink. :P [21:33] schestowitz-TR to show how rich or 'generous' you are [21:33] schestowitz-TR "hey baby, look how rich I am" [21:33] DaemonFC By the time you get to that, each beer costs you what half a dozen of them do at the grocery store. [21:34] schestowitz-TR "I rented this car for tonight, put on my only suit, will blow my whole salary on fancy name drinks to get yoooou laid" [21:34] DaemonFC Oh yeah. Mom would tell me stories about how Brian drank them out of house and home except she started working all sorts of overtime. [21:34] DaemonFC She'd work more hours, he'd buy more beer. [21:34] DaemonFC He had a second refrigerator in the basement full of beer. [21:34] DaemonFC He also had an emergency stash in the garage. [21:34] schestowitz-TR wow [21:34] schestowitz-TR not healthy [21:35] schestowitz-TR better do some other narcotics [21:35] DaemonFC Why do you think he died at 59? [21:35] schestowitz-TR more cost-efficient and less damage to organs like liver [21:35] DaemonFC Between that and two packs of Kool mentols every day for 46 years. [21:35] DaemonFC No veggies in his diet. Mostly fried food. [21:35] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: that's very young if 'natural causes' and no obesity [21:35] DaemonFC It's amazing he lived to 59. [21:36] schestowitz-TR smoking damages skin and teeth too [21:36] schestowitz-TR so maybe he already looked 70+ [21:36] DaemonFC I would swipe his beer when I lived there. [21:36] DaemonFC He was so drunk all the time that he never kept account of how much he drank. [21:36] schestowitz-TR did he binge? [21:36] schestowitz-TR or drink all day long? [21:36] schestowitz-TR dosing up? [21:37] DaemonFC Mom recalled to me that he was so used to being drunk that he even drove fine while he was drunk. [21:37] schestowitz-TR when you don't even have a time range you've gone overboard [21:37] DaemonFC He'd just sit there and knock them back whenever he was off work. [21:37] schestowitz-TR so he would not be comfortable at work [21:38] schestowitz-TR alcohol is very addictive [21:38] schestowitz-TR not as bad as some othere drugs [21:38] schestowitz-TR so sobriety can become painful [21:38] DaemonFC I told her "Now I know why you guys always went camping instead of anywhere else. By the time the drinking was paid for, all you could afford was $7 a night to rent a campsite at the state park in the same county.". [21:38] schestowitz-TR or maybe he anticipated afterwork [21:38] schestowitz-TR alcohol is not very expensive [21:39] DaemonFC No, certainly not back then. [21:39] schestowitz-TR but heavy drinkers need more drinks to get or keep drunk [21:39] schestowitz-TR so it gets more expensive over time [21:39] DaemonFC I figured it up one time and it was actually cheaper to buy a bottle of beer than a can of Coke at that point. [21:39] DaemonFC Indiana has very low alcohol excise tax. [21:39] schestowitz-TR you can buy large plastic bottles [21:39] schestowitz-TR like 2 lites of cider [21:40] DaemonFC Yeah, you can get those big ones, like 28 ounces or something. [21:40] schestowitz-TR almost same price as Cola Cola (branded) [21:40] DaemonFC They used to put them on the 10 for $10 sale. [21:40] schestowitz-TR very low quality [21:40] schestowitz-TR I'd not dream having one per day [21:40] schestowitz-TR they make them very cheaply somehow... [21:40] DaemonFC Well, what can I tell you Roy. The guy was unrefined, even for the standards of the place where he lived. [21:41] schestowitz-TR maybe he died happy [21:41] schestowitz-TR but your mom was not [21:41] DaemonFC I'm told it was painful and drawn out. [21:41] schestowitz-TR she was not on his "trip" [21:41] DaemonFC It took him from the time his wife dialed 911 to just before the ambulance pulled up to finish dying. [21:41] schestowitz-TR cardiac? [21:42] DaemonFC Yep. [21:42] schestowitz-TR obese? [21:42] DaemonFC Actually, no. He was maybe 10 pounds overweight, if that? [21:42] DaemonFC That's not enough all by itself to contribute to severe problems. [21:42] schestowitz-TR maybe the drinks were his calory source [21:42] schestowitz-TR hence not much fat [21:42] schestowitz-TR that fucks up the body [21:43] schestowitz-TR it's just a crabs-burning machine [21:43] schestowitz-TR with some fats in the beers [21:43] schestowitz-TR yeast and stuff [21:43] schestowitz-TR *carbs [21:43] DaemonFC The autopsy said heart attack caused by high blood pressure. [21:43] DaemonFC That's another thing. I frequently saw him salting salted peanutes. [21:43] DaemonFC *peanuts [21:43] schestowitz-TR yeah, makes snese [21:43] DaemonFC You know, the ones that are already quite salty. [21:43] schestowitz-TR with the drinkng [21:44] schestowitz-TR to even out the saltiness [21:44] DaemonFC Mom said he salted things so much that he left the lid off the salt shaker because he said it wouldn't put out enough salt. [21:44] schestowitz-TR more liquid, more salt [21:44] schestowitz-TR I forgot the term for it, not ph [21:44] DaemonFC I buy the roasted peanuts without any salt on them. [21:44] schestowitz-TR it's about the cells [21:45] activelow conductivity [21:45] DaemonFC When I go for fast food, I tell them put down a fresh batch of fries and don't salt them. [21:45] schestowitz-TR no [21:45] schestowitz-TR not ions and ph [21:45] DaemonFC You can ask McDonalds to also not salt the burgers, but I leave that alone. [21:45] activelow and another parameter is water hardness [21:45] DaemonFC It messes with the flavor too much if they don't salt the hamburger patties, but unsalted fries with ketchup are fine. [21:45] schestowitz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salt_poisoning https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salt_water_chlorination [21:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Salt poisoning - Wikipedia [21:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Salt water chlorination - Wikipedia [21:46] schestowitz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brine [21:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Brine - Wikipedia [21:46] DaemonFC So if you go for fast food and want to easily cut out some salt without ruining the meal, take it all out on the fries. [21:46] DaemonFC It makes very little difference to the flavor for whatever reason, but unsalted meat tastes awful. [21:47] schestowitz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balanced_salt_solution [21:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Balanced salt solution - Wikipedia [21:47] DaemonFC schestowitz, I started using a 50/50 mixture of sodium chloride and potassium chloride at home. [21:47] DaemonFC Whenever a recipe calls for salt, I use that, and it automagically cuts the sodium in half without ruining what you're cooking. [21:48] activelow hardness and conductivity can be raised at neutral ph [21:48] schestowitz "Balanced salt solutions are used for washing tissues and cells and are usually combined with other agents to treat the tissues and cells. They provide the cells with water and inorganic ions, while maintaining a physiological pH and osmotic pressure" [21:48] activelow some salts dissolve at higher ph, some at lower [21:48] schestowitz the body NEEDS salt [21:48] activelow different ones [21:48] schestowitz your mom's partner took too much water [21:49] DaemonFC It does need some, but most people get so much from so many places, that it's way too much. [21:49] schestowitz so he had to overcompensate with salt [21:49] schestowitz alcohol is like that [21:49] schestowitz there's such a thing as overdrinking [21:49] DaemonFC It's almost impossible to live in America and have a salt deficiency. The average is eating 3 times more than you should! [21:49] schestowitz it puts your cells at risk [21:49] schestowitz with permanent damage likely [21:49] DaemonFC Another easy way to cut out sodium is quit drinking soda. [21:50] schestowitz DaemonFC: here's the thing [21:50] DaemonFC It doesn't have much, but every can has 50 milligrams. [21:50] DaemonFC And it doesn't help your body at all. [21:50] schestowitz the junk food places make the most money on drinks [21:50] schestowitz they sell you water [21:50] schestowitz in the junk food places they use caron [21:50] schestowitz not plastic [21:50] schestowitz so it's super-cheap [21:50] schestowitz if they serve too much salt, you compensate by drinking [21:51] schestowitz so using too much salt and not BETTER condiment is also a business decision [21:51] schestowitz there's also this thing they do with too much sugar in recommended dietys [21:51] schestowitz I guess the dentists love that too :-) [21:51] DaemonFC My mother said that Dr. Murphy, a psychiatrist I saw for some time, and not one of those hacks that you see everywhere these days because of Obamacare.....told her that he thought I might have an autism spectrum disorder. [21:52] schestowitz-TR and why? [21:52] schestowitz-TR people over-diagnose this and attention deficit [21:52] DaemonFC But he didn't put that down in my chart or look into it any further. [21:52] schestowitz-TR then push some pills [21:52] DaemonFC Yes, I'm already on medication for bipolar disorder. [21:52] DaemonFC Without it, my mind is a complete wreck. [21:52] schestowitz-TR so is bully de blanc [21:53] schestowitz-TR maybe you too should hook up [21:53] DaemonFC Lots of people have bipolar disorder. [21:53] schestowitz-TR she's also unemployed and she's single ;-) [21:53] DaemonFC Like over 40 million in this country alone I think. [21:53] schestowitz-TR I need to read up on what it does to them, as I know too little... [21:53] schestowitz-TR many homeless here are said to have it [21:54] schestowitz-TR not because of the homelessness but vice versa [21:54] schestowitz-TR I guess it makes it harder to integrate them into workplaces [21:54] DaemonFC Yes, it's hard to function when you're screaming at people one minute because they annoyed you and then realize what you did and are asking them to forgive you a few minutes later. [21:54] schestowitz-TR wikipedia says there is I and II [21:54] schestowitz-TR different articles [21:54] schestowitz-TR very unhelful term [21:55] schestowitz-TR "bi"=2 [21:55] DaemonFC Well, they started out by diagnosing me with Bipolar II Disorder. [21:55] schestowitz-TR and then they have Ia [21:55] schestowitz-TR and II [21:55] schestowitz-TR they use numbers? [21:55] DaemonFC Then they changed it to Bipolar I with psychotic features. [21:55] schestowitz-TR is there a Flu IV and Flu XIII? [21:55] DaemonFC Yeah, Bipolar 2 is the less severe version. [21:55] schestowitz-TR COVID IX :-) [21:55] schestowitz-TR COVID IX-Delta-Gamma :-) [21:55] DaemonFC It can usually be treated with less medication and people with it tend to function better in society and groups. [21:56] activelow wasn't this narcism? required for social compliance. [21:56] DaemonFC Even people who get a Bipolar 1 with psychotic features diagnosis can be medicated, but almost never live a normal life. [21:56] schestowitz-TR I've finally reading up more about it.... quiet news day anyway [21:57] DaemonFC The typical patient ends up working well below their abilities or intelligence, even if they have a high intelligence. [21:57] DaemonFC Because they can't function well enough to get ahead. [21:57] schestowitz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bipolar_disorder [21:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Bipolar disorder - Wikipedia [21:57] schestowitz "Frequency13%" [21:57] DaemonFC With rare exceptions, I suppose. [21:57] schestowitz (From main laptop) [21:57] schestowitz It would suck to have it [21:58] schestowitz at one moment you'd offend decent people [21:58] schestowitz friends/family [21:58] schestowitz and they might not forgive you [21:58] DaemonFC Oh, Maricel was saying she'd have the state of Illinois take away my license to drive because I had bipolar disorder and they don't let people "like me" drive a car. [21:58] schestowitz even worse for social control media users [21:58] schestowitz they have "multi-modal" state [21:58] schestowitz and then it's all bungled up [21:58] DaemonFC I said, "The fact that you believe yourself to be all powerful says there's something a lot worse going wrong in your head.". [21:58] DaemonFC Something like that. [21:59] schestowitz Maricel is an arrogant fool [21:59] schestowitz so it doesn't matter [21:59] schestowitz she's not qualified to diagnose [21:59] schestowitz just some overhyped nurse with ego issues [21:59] schestowitz anyway, Maricel is OT ● Sep 04 [22:00] schestowitz I wonder if RMS throwing tantrums says something... [22:00] schestowitz he did it publicly a few times [22:00] DaemonFC Well, I suppose the best way to describe my behavior without medication was that I knew there were rules, but I didn't care. [22:00] schestowitz "Less commonly, bipolar disorder or a bipolar-like disorder may occur as a result of or in association with a neurological condition or injury including stroke, traumatic brain injury, HIV infection, multiple sclerosis, porphyria, and rarely temporal lobe epilepsy.[65]" [22:00] schestowitz tbh: [22:00] schestowitz you would not like this: [22:01] DaemonFC I felt like I would just always get away with whatever I did, so it didn't matter what I did. [22:01] schestowitz these people are best avoided in some positions and roles [22:01] schestowitz like sys admins [22:01] schestowitz they're not predictable... I came across a few [22:01] schestowitz people with emotional roller coasters [22:01] schestowitz they can do other roles [22:02] schestowitz with UNIX you are always one command away from total disaster [22:02] schestowitz with customer support a tantrum would spell disaster [22:04] techrights-news #Australia realises it looks idiotic to the whole world after saying granting #monopolies to bots is acceptable https://www.managingip.com/article/b1tcm8fdfsfcs8/ip-australia-appeals-seminal-ai-inventorship-ruling #patents [22:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | IP Australia appeals seminal AI inventorship ruling | Managing Intellectual Property [22:05] techrights-news LOL. Buzzwords and propaganda terms as a "market". Sober up, IAM. You look like a bunch of shills https://www.iam-media.com/finance/aon-ip-100-billion-market-asset-class see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/IAM [22:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.iam-media.com | IP could become a $100 billion premium market, says Aon CEO | IAM [22:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IAM - Techrights [22:07] techrights-news "An Algerian dissident appeared in court in Algiers on Wednesday accused of terrorism, a person in court said, confirming he was no longer in Tunisia where he had held refugee status." https://www.reuters.com/world/algerian-dissident-case-raises-fears-over-tunisian-rights-2021-09-01/ [22:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Algerian dissident case raises fears over Tunisian rights | Reuters [22:07] DaemonFC " they're not predictable... I came across a few" [22:07] techrights-news "Systemic racism affects people in many different areas of life. A #Massachusetts study found that, on average, blacks convicted of crimes got longer sentences than whites convicted of comparable crimes in comparable circumstances." https://stallman.org/archives/2021-jul-oct.html#4_September_2021_%28Black_surgeons%29 [22:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | 2021: July - October Political Notes - Richard Stallman [22:07] DaemonFC They're not predictable because a lot of them are worried about how to get ahead no matter what they have to do. [22:08] schestowitz-TR I think it's not that [22:08] schestowitz-TR it's erratic changes in mood and thinking [22:08] DaemonFC Whether that's inside or outside the rules is up for question. Some people, like me, are at least smart enough to game the rules when they understand there will be punishments if they do what they want outside the rules. [22:08] DaemonFC it's erratic changes in mood and thinking [22:08] DaemonFC Well, it's hard to lay out goals when what you want is in a state of flux and you're conflicted about things internally. [22:09] DaemonFC Just because they have trouble setting goals doesn't mean they have no ambition. [22:09] DaemonFC Trust me. [22:09] techrights-news #India locks down restive #Kashmir after burial of separatist leader https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/india-locks-down-restive-kashmir-after-burial-separatist-leader-2021-09-02/ [22:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-India locks down restive Kashmir after burial of separatist leader | Reuters [22:10] DaemonFC It's like a person who appears to not be achieving anything, but whether they have no motivation or different things motivate them that may not be apparent to you is the real question. [22:10] schestowitz-TR motivations vary [22:10] DaemonFC In their own mind, they might be achieving things that they care about that do no good for other people. [22:10] schestowitz-TR some people are motivated to get more fake 'friends' on FB [22:10] DaemonFC Maybe they don't care about that, or even think about it. [22:10] schestowitz-TR some people want more money [22:11] schestowitz-TR some want to just project the mere idea that they have money [22:11] DaemonFC I only need enough money to live and have a buffer in case of disaster. [22:11] schestowitz-TR so you cannot generalise goals [22:11] DaemonFC I'll figure out ways to amuse myself cheaply. [22:11] schestowitz-TR that's good [22:11] DaemonFC I don't need to spend $8,000 at Disney World pretending I'm royalty to walk back into a life of debt and 3 rent payments behind. [22:12] DaemonFC My aunt, on the other hand, she's the one that died in the car accident in 2013.... [22:12] DaemonFC She suffered from severe depression. [22:13] DaemonFC One time, she sold her 1992 Chevy Lumina that she had just paid off. It was in good shape and she could use it to get to work and back. They used the money to help spend 2 weeks at Disney World. [22:13] DaemonFC WHen she got back, she had no car and they had to keep renting the minivan she rented to go to Disney World in because her credit had gotten so bad that nobody would write her a new car loan. [22:14] DaemonFC Like Apple, Disney has a darker side. [22:14] techrights-news Oh, FFS. Quit using meaningless buzzwords and start using a language that actually means something, like "treating computer program like it is a person" https://law.asia/ai-right-legal-identity-india/ #lawyers overcomplicate things to sound clever... [22:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-law.asia | Artifical intelligence's right to legal identity in India [22:14] DaemonFC It makes people so covetous that they spend unreasonable amounts of money there when they can't afford to do it, and then vital things get sacrificed to make room for junk. [22:14] DaemonFC It's Capitalism in a nutshell, I suppose. [22:14] schestowitz-TR yes [22:15] schestowitz-TR it's a form of intoxication [22:15] schestowitz-TR in the hormones sense [22:15] schestowitz-TR flatlining/baselining is a lot more predictable [22:15] schestowitz-TR but society pushes shit to people [22:15] schestowitz-TR I block all ads [22:15] DaemonFC Yes, Disney is almost a cult. Like, they put total emphasis on immersion and not breaking character and their staff always being super polite, and everything being spotlessly clean. [22:16] schestowitz-TR I help rianne block them at her end too [22:16] DaemonFC It has a psychological impact on people. [22:16] schestowitz-TR so we can focus on what matters in life [22:16] schestowitz-TR we don't do social control media [22:16] schestowitz-TR she barely knows what her very old friends do... same with me... unless I see them in person and they tell me some stories [22:17] schestowitz-TR I don't need smalltalk about their "breakfasts" that I can "like" [22:17] schestowitz-TR but it's a seductive thing to social outcasts with insecurity complex [22:18] schestowitz-TR Look ar "Johnny" [22:18] schestowitz-TR "Johnny has 3000 friends (in facebook), didn't have a relationship in 30 years" [22:19] schestowitz-TR "Rachel likes to go to Disneyworld with her 6 kids each year, then she posts nothing in FB for 12 months, working to pay off 6 mortgages" [22:20] schestowitz-TR "Benny rides a Corvette, cannot even get a hard-on... but is working on it" [22:20] schestowitz-TR "Laura works for Google and makes a big salary, but outside work... wait, what? There's no such thing as "OUTSIDE WORK!!"" [22:21] schestowitz-TR those are different kind of scenarios [22:21] schestowitz-TR and most likely, all the above people are not happy [22:21] schestowitz-TR sometimes they pretend, even to themselves, that they are at least temporarily feel proud of their lives [22:22] schestowitz-TR Mandy is starting to sound like one of the above [22:22] schestowitz-TR sort it out before it spoils him [22:22] schestowitz-TR Apple likes him spoiled [22:23] techrights-news " #Shell plans to have 500,000 electric vehicle charging stations in the UK. How many of these permit paying cash?" Haha, typical RMS response. Love it! https://stallman.org/archives/2021-jul-oct.html#4_September_2021_%28Shell_electric_vehicle_stations%29 [22:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | 2021: July - October Political Notes - Richard Stallman [22:24] techrights-news Someone needs to tell RMS that the charging stations for cars are (nowadays) hardly the worst #privacy aspect of driving a car http://techrights.org/2021/07/06/automobile-privacy-tax/ [22:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Todays Cars Have a Privacy Tax | Techrights [22:25] techrights-news #Hurricane #Ida Makes a Mockery of Big Oils Philanthropy https://theintercept.com/2021/09/02/hurricane-ida-fossil-fuel-greenwashing/ #theintercept = #omidyarPAC (I don't trust this FAKE 'Philanthropist' either; he's rogue) [22:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theintercept.com | Hurricane Ida Makes a Mockery of Big Oils Philanthropy [22:27] DaemonFC Apple likes him spoiled [22:27] DaemonFC I gave him a pretty big dressing down for that. [22:27] DaemonFC I was not happy at all. [22:27] schestowitz-TR they enchanted many people like this [22:28] schestowitz-TR and they seem to prey on gays the most [22:28] schestowitz-TR not sure why [22:28] DaemonFC Then he got all pissy at me for telling him he needs to stay on the iPhone SE, which works fine. [22:28] DaemonFC Because it's not "the best" model. [22:28] DaemonFC I told him "You work at Walmart.". [22:28] schestowitz-TR best what? [22:28] schestowitz-TR "phone"? [22:28] schestowitz-TR there more to a f-cing like than a f-ed up "phone" [22:28] schestowitz-TR food [22:28] schestowitz-TR clothes [22:28] schestowitz-TR heating [22:29] schestowitz-TR [22:28] I told him "You work at Walmart.". [22:29] *Achylles has quit (Quit: Leaving) [22:29] schestowitz-TR that's his sister [22:29] schestowitz-TR same symptoms developing [22:29] schestowitz-TR imposter syndrome [22:29] MinceR the best iphone, like the most fragrant turd [22:30] schestowitz-TR "can't be rich, can pretend to be one" [22:30] schestowitz-TR MinceR: +1 [22:30] schestowitz-TR we should make slogans like, [22:30] schestowitz-TR the best smart phone is no phone [22:30] schestowitz-TR and see if you're smart enough to get alone without one [22:30] schestowitz-TR skills required: handle cash, talk people to their faces... [22:31] schestowitz-TR concentrate on reading a whole book without even once checking notificationsd [22:31] MinceR not sure about that [22:31] MinceR i like being able to access the Internet from just about anywhere [22:31] MinceR and having a phone i can access my VPS in reasonable security (pinephone) [22:31] MinceR +with [22:34] schestowitz-TR you can do it with wifi and a laptop [22:34] schestowitz-TR I can get signal from the back yard [22:34] schestowitz-TR 1kg arm laptop [22:35] MinceR wifi isn't available as widely as cellular phone [22:35] schestowitz-TR maybe that's a good thing [22:35] schestowitz-TR so you can get disconnected sometimes [22:35] MinceR and i do have a 990 g laptop, but i do not necessarily want to carry it everywhere [22:35] schestowitz-TR use a palm PDA [22:35] MinceR lol [22:35] schestowitz-TR I have two on my desk now [22:35] schestowitz-TR I can ship you the older one [22:36] MinceR my palm PDA bricked itself in 13 months from purchase [22:36] schestowitz-TR it works partly [22:36] MinceR the pinephone is so much better [22:36] schestowitz-TR but the older one isn't charged up atm [22:36] schestowitz-TR MinceR: for the state [22:36] MinceR how so? [22:36] schestowitz-TR it tracks yoy [22:36] schestowitz-TR *you [22:36] MinceR how? [22:36] schestowitz-TR the towers [22:37] schestowitz-TR orban periodically collects the data [22:37] MinceR it doesn't talk to the towers, it doesn't even have a SIM in it [22:37] schestowitz-TR so how does it connect to the net outdoors? [22:37] MinceR via my other phone :> [22:37] schestowitz-TR lol [22:37] schestowitz-TR there we go [22:37] schestowitz-TR thethering [22:37] MinceR where? [22:37] schestowitz-TR so it still is connected via a tracking device [22:38] schestowitz-TR *tethering [22:38] MinceR yeah, if you have an idea for a global network that provides an Internet connection without revealing your location, i'm all ears [22:38] schestowitz-TR we are looking for that [22:38] schestowitz-TR olive's 0g [22:38] schestowitz-TR RMS has another proposal [22:38] schestowitz-TR which he explained several times [22:39] schestowitz-TR it is a compromise [22:39] schestowitz-TR which I had thought of before [22:39] MinceR what's the theory? and what are the criteria? [22:39] MinceR do you accept being able to be triangulated? [22:39] schestowitz-TR it's a bit like email polling [22:40] AdmFubar https://www.theverge.com/2021/9/1/22651138/twitter-super-follow-launch-subscription-ios [22:40] MinceR if you send radio signals, you can be triangulated [22:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Twitter launches Super Follows on iOS - The Verge [22:40] schestowitz-TR you inquire for whether a call is requested when you wish [22:40] schestowitz-TR this way you can at least eliminate or limit the location data collection [22:40] schestowitz-TR so they track you only while you poll or on call [22:40] MinceR if you use a pager, you can get notified and maybe they only know which country you're in [22:41] schestowitz-TR AdmFubar: twitter is dying [22:41] MinceR but the moment you start transmitting somehow, you can be located [22:41] schestowitz-TR I wrote about it earlier today and explained why [22:41] schestowitz-TR it became "entertainment platform" [22:41] MinceR also, i'm not sure if one-way pagers are still available at all [22:41] schestowitz-TR twitter is not obsolete [22:41] schestowitz-TR *now [22:41] MinceR i thought twitter became an echo chamber [22:41] schestowitz-TR that too [22:41] MinceR and a cancellation platform [22:41] schestowitz-TR it's part of the entertainment [22:41] schestowitz-TR it helps affirmation cults [22:42] MinceR if you don't agree with jack on bill gates, you get banned [22:42] schestowitz-TR Pieter explained it well ages ago [22:42] schestowitz http://hintjens.com/blog:125 [22:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Confessions of a Necromancer - Hintjens.com [22:42] schestowitz http://hintjens.wikidot.com/blog:114 [22:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hintjens.wikidot.com | Why I've Quit Twitter - Hintjens.com [22:42] AdmFubar I wonder how many fruit users will pay to get tweets and I'm sure apple gets a cut [22:43] schestowitz "It has become clear to me that Twitter is a lens that distorts. The economics in this case favor the wrong people: the psychopaths and their followers. It gives them space in which to grow, recruit, and market themselves. By using Twitter, I'm contributing to this." [22:43] schestowitz it worked for Trump [22:43] schestowitz AdmFubar: let's hope social control media dies soon, like myspace did [22:44] schestowitz and people move on to something constructive, which I doubt corporattions will allow [22:44] schestowitz they will try to sell them an even worse digital drug [22:44] schestowitz anything to "pacify" the masses [22:44] *psydroid3 has quit (connection closed) [22:44] schestowitz [22:42] if you don't agree with jack on bill gates, you get banned [22:44] schestowitz no [22:45] schestowitz you have oversimplified it [22:45] schestowitz if you are not helping their business mode [22:45] schestowitz *model [22:45] MinceR lol [22:45] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/07/05/bill-gates-pays-twitter/ [22:45] schestowitz or [22:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Reality is Warped When You Pay for Perception Management (or: Bill Gates Pays Twitter for Propaganda) | Techrights [22:45] schestowitz if the PRODUCT is Twitter IS in fact your elimination [22:45] schestowitz like they did in The Verge [22:45] DaemonFC schestowitz, Microsoft broke Windows 11 on the beta and dev channels because the system used to serve ads to the Start menu had a bug that made it crash the shell. [22:46] DaemonFC Saw a story about that earlier. [22:46] schestowitz they fired the journalist who was here in #techrights to prepare a story [22:46] AdmFubar but did you note what ads? [22:46] schestowitz because billy micro-dick epstein PAID The Verge [22:46] DaemonFC I turned all of them off. [22:46] schestowitz probably after spying a bit to figure out the story and spike it [22:46] DaemonFC There's levers to turn all of the ads off in Windows 10. [22:46] MinceR yeah [22:46] MinceR my favorite levers are called "fdisk" and "dd" [22:47] MinceR no windows -> no ads! [22:47] AdmFubar in the article the ad was for m$ products... [22:47] schestowitz AdmFubar: I think i saw a blog post from norway about it yesterday [22:47] DaemonFC My favorite is the uEFI stuff mjg59_ wrote and likes so much that can make your computer unbootable permanently, like what never happened with BIOS. [22:47] schestowitz [18:03] Why do you still use #microsoft #malware and complain that it hurts you? https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/windows11-empty-taskbar.html #vista10 + Service Pack = #vista11 (+bribed media for superficial hype factor) [22:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ctrl.blog | Why can an ad break the Windows 11 desktop and taskbar? [22:47] schestowitz same thing? [22:47] DaemonFC Yeah, looks like it. [22:48] MinceR mjg59_ doesn't want your computer to boot anything other than windows [22:48] DaemonFC So now it's not only obnoxious, but it stops the entire OS from doing anything. [22:48] schestowitz [22:47] My favorite is the uEFI stuff mjg59_ wrote and likes so much that can make your computer unbootable permanently, like what never happened with BIOS. [22:48] AdmFubar this feature/bug will be exploited fully very soon [22:48] schestowitz That's secu-ree-TAY! [22:48] schestowitz like the fake ones that go by Swift-on-Securityy [22:48] MinceR being locked into microsoft's legendarily secure OS :> [22:48] schestowitz All those fake security posers who push Microsoft [22:48] schestowitz literally pushing back doors as secu-ree-TAY! [22:49] schestowitz AdmFubar: windows is finished [22:49] schestowitz living on borrowed time [22:49] schestowitz but the media isn't telling the real story [22:49] schestowitz Android won [22:49] schestowitz server Windows http://techrights.org/2014/03/28/image-of-apache-harmed/ [22:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft is Still Losing Market Share in Actual Web Servers (Not Dummy Domains) | Techrights [22:49] schestowitz desktop windows: http://techrights.org/2021/05/03/statcounter-may-2021/ [22:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | StatCounter: In May 2021 Windows Market Share Falls Sharply to Just 28%, Whereas GNU/Linux Climbs to 2.31% in Desktops/Laptops | Techrights [22:50] schestowitz They barely even profit off windows anymore [22:50] schestowitz because chromeOS is far cheaper [22:50] schestowitz notice the silence of the garrett [22:50] schestowitz let me get some numeroica; data [22:52] schestowitz Last blog post JUNE [22:52] schestowitz No, wait, July [22:52] schestowitz Too busy to write proprietary software [22:52] schestowitz to write any blog posts [22:52] schestowitz his "FART FART FART FART" tweets don't count for anything [22:53] schestowitz his sole real legacy was UEFI 'secure' boot [22:53] MinceR you don't know how much he was paid for those, though [22:53] schestowitz i.e. an ATTACK on the Free software community [22:53] schestowitz which an INTEL-FUNDED (at the time) FSF... and Red Hat also... gave him award for [22:53] DaemonFC https://wgntv.com/news/waukegan-woman-charged-after-headbutting-sheriffs-deputy-officials/ [22:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wgntv.com | Waukegan woman charged after headbutting sheriffs deputy: officials | WGN-TV [22:53] schestowitz prior to ir FSF and RMS blasted UEFI 'secure' boot [22:53] DaemonFC I thought you had to charge _to_ headbutt someone. [22:53] schestowitz http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/UEFI [22:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | UEFI - Techrights [22:54] DaemonFC So she technically charged before and was charged after the headbutt. [22:54] schestowitz Intel $ + Red Hat $ = FSF drunk http://techrights.org/2020/07/30/uefi-secure-boot-award/ [22:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | UEFI Secure Boot is Just a Security Mess, as Techrights Predicted All Along, and FSF Should Not Have Given That Award | Techrights [22:55] schestowitz DaemonFC: she should have gone for the groin [22:55] schestowitz her bad... [22:55] DaemonFC The root cause was apparently driving while stoned. [22:55] DaemonFC Then because everything gets better after you attack the cop..... [22:56] schestowitz 2013: http://techrights.org/2013/06/06/insyde-software/ [22:56] MinceR it does, if you do it right :> [22:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | UEFI Secure Boot is Not About Security, Insyde Softwares Business Model is Misguided and Dangerous | Techrights [22:56] schestowitz then TV doesn't cover it [22:56] schestowitz not the police chases program anyway [22:57] schestowitz they miraculously omit all the stories where the cops lose [22:57] schestowitz which is most cases [22:57] schestowitz "we could not locate your X" [22:57] schestowitz "we don't know how to find the suspect" [22:57] schestowitz "X cops were killed" [22:57] schestowitz viewers are safer watching copaganda [22:57] schestowitz and think cops will always solve crimes for them [22:58] schestowitz 3-minutes ads [22:58] schestowitz or 30-minute ads [22:58] schestowitz MORE budget, MOAR COPS! [22:58] schestowitz they will save you [22:58] schestowitz not knock you over at the behest of oil companies ;-) [22:59] DaemonFC https://www.reddit.com/r/nordvpn/comments/phq3gq/why_sometimes_the_wifi_symbol_and_sometimes_the/ [22:59] DaemonFC Windows has this issue on NordVPN and PIA for sure. [22:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 503 @ https://www.reddit.com/r/nordvpn/comments/phq3gq/why_sometimes_the_wifi_symbol_and_sometimes_the/ ) [22:59] DaemonFC Sometimes it shows the icon for ethernet, and sometimes the one for WiFI. ● Sep 04 [23:00] DaemonFC schestowitz, The police oversight agency in Chicago is called COPA. [23:00] techrights-news "Tories want to ruin people's lives for using the basically harmless drug, nitrous oxide. I can only suppose they want to get their supporters high on persecuting those despised young people." https://stallman.org/archives/2021-jul-oct.html#4_September_2021_%28Tories_against_nitrous_oxide%29 [23:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | 2021: July - October Political Notes - Richard Stallman [23:00] DaemonFC So I think I'll steal and modify that. [23:00] DaemonFC Call what they put out COPAganda. [23:02] MinceR fundies only want the drug approved by their religion -- ethanol [23:02] MinceR and for some reason also tobacco [23:02] techrights-news Ian Schofield is relaying lies for Team UPC. UPC is dead, but they pretend it's about timetables (for what, a funeral?) https://pink.pharmaintelligence.informa.com/PS144877/Earlier-Start-Likely-For-Europes-Unified-Patent-Court http://techrights.org/2021/08/31/unified-patent-court-faking-it/ [23:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://pink.pharmaintelligence.informa.com/PS144877/Earlier-Start-Likely-For-Europes-Unified-Patent-Court ) [23:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Team UPC Has Spread a Dozen or So Fake News Headlines With Patently False Claims, Which Its Unable and Unwilling to Justify | Techrights [23:03] techrights-news #pharmaintelligence or #pinksheet is another #bigpharma -funded #propagandaMill that lacks #factchecking [23:04] DaemonFC and for some reason also tobacco [23:04] DaemonFC Revenge against the white man. [23:04] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: look up VICE ganda [23:05] schestowitz-TR or ask Mandy [23:05] DaemonFC We gave them smallpox blankets, the Indians gave us tobacco. [23:06] DaemonFC The natives lost the war quite badly, but a lot of that was actually the fault of the British. [23:06] MinceR :> [23:06] DaemonFC The British put them up to harassing us and then kind of left them hanging high and dry when we came to deal with them with guns. [23:06] techrights-news https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/08/scope-written-description.html [23:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | Full Scope Written Description | Patently-O [23:07] DaemonFC The British kept promising them freedom if they harassed us, "when we get the colonies back", which never did happen. [23:07] techrights-news "The COVID vaccines do not genetically modify your DNA, but Junos patented CAR T-Cell therapy certainly does." #patents #patent #uspto #covid19 https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/08/scope-written-description.html [23:07] DaemonFC What did happen was that they started attacking Americans figuring the British would commit to the war much more than they ended up doing. [23:08] DaemonFC The American Revolution has been sort of retconned into various things that it had nothing to do with. [23:09] DaemonFC Perhaps most strangely of all was taxation, because once they apparently threw off the chains of British oppression (you know, the taxes), the government here started taxing people too, and they were ultimately not much better off, except for the people who ran the government now and set the policies under which they would be taxed. [23:10] DaemonFC But that was obviously a small and very rich group. [23:10] techrights-news This is so harmful to the #patent "profession" that even some maximalists who push #patents and #litigation have begun worrying (it's a self-discrediting circus) https://www.businessinsider.co.za/south-africa-first-in-the-world-to-award-an-ai-patent-2021-8 [23:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businessinsider.co.za | SA becomes the first country in the world to award a patent to an AI-generated invention [23:10] DaemonFC MinceR, But that's what happens with taxes. [23:10] DaemonFC The government takes your money and decides how to spend it. [23:10] DaemonFC Embezzlement, vote-buying, etc. [23:11] MinceR that's how it is with states [23:11] DaemonFC Then it gives very little of it back to you with terms and conditions. [23:11] MinceR they want money [23:11] MinceR and they're all too happy to take it out of your wallet while holding a gun to your head [23:11] DaemonFC "Hey you know that money we stole from you? [23:11] MinceR and the masses believe this to be legitimate [23:11] MinceR stole? robbed! [23:11] DaemonFC "Here's 20% of it back and it can only be spent on food.". [23:11] DaemonFC "Here's some you can only spend at a health insurance company!" [23:12] DaemonFC "How would you ever get along without us!?" [23:12] techrights-news #Patent #zealots from #BardehlePagenberg still pushing the lunacy of #softwarepatents , even in #Europe where those patents are not allowed but the EPO has been infiltrated and corrupted to the core, including its tribunals https://www.mondaq.com/germany/patent/1098644/determining-an-analysis-chronicle-non-technical http://techrights.org/wiki/EPO [23:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | Determining An Analysis Chronicle: Non-Technical - Intellectual Property - Germany [23:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO - Techrights [23:14] techrights-news Even Australian patent profiteers concerned that #patents are being offers to bots or to some computer programs? This is an own goal to the #patent system and its stated goals. https://blog.patentology.com.au/2021/08/in-becoming-first-country-to-recognise.html [23:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.patentology.com.au | In Becoming the First Country to Recognise Non-Human Inventors, is Australia a Hero of Progress, or a Chump? ~ patentology [23:16] techrights-news Free software (libre) runs the world. https://hbr.org/2021/09/the-digital-economy-runs-on-open-source-heres-how-to-protect-it #freesw [23:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hbr.org | The Digital Economy Runs on Open Source. Heres How to Protect It. [23:17] *sebsebsebseb (~sebastian@jv6mjngabnvnu.irc) has joined #techrights [23:17] sebsebsebseb MinceR: Apple [23:17] techrights-news #windows Vista Service Pack '11' confirms that Windows is perpetually unstable release, just an experiment on a Microsoft botnet (Windows Update) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsLsSLjU2q8 [23:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Is Windows Actually A Rolling Release?? - YouTube [23:17] MinceR sebsebsebseb: netflix [23:18] schestowitz-TR sebsebsebseb: 0/ [23:18] schestowitz-TR MinceR: watch yo language !! [23:18] MinceR no u [23:18] schestowitz-TR o u. hey hi [23:19] MinceR hey bee sea dee ee ef jee [23:19] schestowitz-TR Age Hi Jake... [23:20] techrights-news Making a USB disk full of crap, like this brown one.. https://www.maketecheasier.com/install-macos-on-usb-drive/ #icrap [23:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | How to Install macOS on a USB Drive - Make Tech Easier [23:20] sebsebsebseb MinceR: schestowitz-TR what happended to freenode i treid to connect, but nope [23:21] techrights-news #apple : we are a consumer brand; we brand you a PEDOPHILE; prove us wrong! [23:21] schestowitz-TR sebsebsebseb: freenode is free of life [23:21] schestowitz-TR it's dead [23:21] schestowitz-TR use this network now [23:21] sebsebsebseb schestowitz-TR: is it totally dead now [23:21] MinceR sebsebsebseb: it was taken over by andrew lee and now requires TLS and SASL [23:22] sebsebsebseb MinceR: maybe that's how i got on it before changing some setitng [23:22] sebsebsebseb not been on irc for ages [23:22] schestowitz-TR sebsebsebseb: too many narcotics and megalomania doomed it [23:22] MinceR sebsebsebseb: they trashed the services DB, registering a new account now practically requires running nonfree javascript via irc.com [23:22] MinceR but what the hell, it sucked before too [23:22] sebsebsebseb so yeah it's basically dead now for real [23:22] sebsebsebseb hardly anyone left on it [23:22] sebsebsebseb not even techrights [23:22] MinceR well, not really [23:22] MinceR it has 1910 users [23:23] schestowitz-TR lol [23:23] schestowitz-TR age of korean empire? [23:23] schestowitz-TR or rtaher, year of japan occupation? [23:23] schestowitz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korea_under_Japanese_rule?wprov=srpw1_0 [23:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Korea under Japanese rule - Wikipedia [23:23] schestowitz 19101945 [23:24] schestowitz MinceR: was it a joke? [23:24] schestowitz if not, 1910 might be a doctored number [23:24] schestowitz by the loon who runs it [23:24] schestowitz http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/freenode.txt [23:24] schestowitz "[20:46] So it turns out in 1910 the prime minister of korea signed a treaty with the emperor of japan." [23:24] schestowitz "[20:47] 1910 was the annexation of korea to japan and then there were a ton of independence movements etc. ;o" [23:25] schestowitz MinceR: coincidence or not? [23:25] MinceR \_()_/ [23:25] MinceR it's 1909 now [23:25] schestowitz easter eggs for the lusers [23:25] schestowitz like calling servers after some mythical crap [23:26] schestowitz as if to invoke ancient history and build a time machine [23:26] schestowitz "I WAS KING..... 80 years before I was even born" [23:26] MinceR must be nice [23:27] schestowitz [23:25] it's 1909 now [23:27] schestowitz so he is king again [23:27] schestowitz can't wait till 1911 [23:27] schestowitz when they kill him or he escapes the network ;-) [23:27] XRevan86 sebsebsebseb: https://netsplit.de/networks/top10.php [23:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-netsplit.de | NO TITLE [23:28] techrights-news #ManjaroLinux 21.1.2 is out. #gnu #linux https://manjaro.org/ [23:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-manjaro.org | Manjaro - enjoy the simplicity [23:30] techrights-news "With #SELinux technology its possible confine not only system process (as its by default used in Fedora, #CentOS and #RedHat Enterprise Linux) but also linux users. We call this feature SELinux confined users." https://lukas-vrabec.com/index.php/2021/09/04/selinux-confined-users-and-mcs-benefits/ if you trust #ibm http://techrights.org/2021/01/30/fake-security/ [23:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lukas-vrabec.com | SELinux confined users and MCS benefits Lukas Vrabec [23:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Fake Security is Still a Real Problem, Even in the GNU/Linux (and BSD) Spheres | Techrights [23:33] techrights-news #zdnet forgot that the word server exists. Now it clowns it... it's called #clowncomputing ... ZDNet is pure trash http://techrights.org/wiki/ZDNet#2021 [23:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | ZDNet - Techrights [23:37] schestowitz-TR sebsebsebseb: you can register here too [23:38] schestowitz-TR /msg NickServ register mySecretPassword validEmailAddress@example.com [23:38] techrights-news #Trash a safer alternative to rm http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155285 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [23:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Trash a safer alternative to rm | Tux Machines [23:39] sebsebsebseb schestowitz-TR: I thk i did register here or try too before [23:39] sebsebsebseb since ocudn't get into sebsebseb [23:40] techrights-news #ibm #kyndryl ... "Better than fentanyl" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1cEUvEBh#replies IBM buying its own share, doing financial engineering instead of actual engineering. Passing around staff and units/reporting buckets to fake growth... [23:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | "Hire Kyndryl and soon you will be taking Benedryl" .. I can see the competition using this ! - post regarding IBM layoffs [23:40] schestowitz-TR sebsebsebseb: ok, yes, I recall something [23:40] schestowitz-TR we started this network abotu 3.5 months ago [23:41] schestowitz-TR back then freenode was still sort of hanging [23:42] schestowitz phoronix doing intel 'ads' https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=intel-arch-2021&num=1 [23:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel Architecture Day 2021 & The Linux State - Phoronix [23:44] techrights-news #techrights turns 15 in a couple of months. 14th: http://schestowitz.com/royrianne/gallery/index.php/Techrights-Birthday-14-Years/20201029_135521 [23:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | 20201029 135521 [23:46] MinceR moronix [23:48] techrights-news Totally missing the key point that those EPO boards are crooked kangaroo courts under immense pressure (threats) by the Mafia that illegally took over the office to just allow software patents https://www.mondaq.com/germany/patent/1105114/projection-surface-with-built-in-track-pad-technical http://techrights.org/2021/06/26/g-121-epo-catastrophe/ [23:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | Projection Surface With Built-In Track Pad: Technical - Intellectual Property - Germany [23:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | G 1/21 is a Catastrophe for the EPOs Legitimacy | Techrights [23:48] schestowitz-TR MinceR: A unix os for moro people [23:48] schestowitz-TR is that a good one? [23:48] psydruid I've also seen more Intel coverage than usual on Linuxgizmos [23:48] schestowitz-TR or just a ubuntu respin with wallpapers? [23:48] MinceR lol [23:48] psydruid which makes me not read it as often as I used to [23:49] schestowitz-TR psydruid: yes, but they are not as compromised [23:49] schestowitz-TR also, they don't work with Microsoft [23:49] MinceR schestowitz-TR: just a copy of windows or macos the people pretend is unix [23:49] schestowitz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moro_people [23:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Moro people - Wikipedia [23:49] MinceR schestowitz-TR: or an alleged tech news site with sensationalist and clickbaity headlines [23:49] MinceR possibly still under IDG/IDC control [23:50] schestowitz-TR maybe not anymore [23:50] schestowitz-TR but I remember that [23:50] schestowitz-TR now it's bossed by fatima larabel and the baby [23:51] schestowitz-TR they had a baby just before covid19 [23:51] schestowitz-TR and then she lost her job [23:51] schestowitz-TR I can empathise with michael [23:51] schestowitz-TR but I advised him not to taunt us with Microsoft clickbait [23:52] schestowitz-TR for a while he posted LOADS of Microsoft crap [23:52] schestowitz-TR like .NET and Mono [23:52] schestowitz-TR he told me it was for entertainment or something [23:52] MinceR regardless of empathy, i don't trust his clickbait [23:52] schestowitz-TR amusement maybe, cannot recall the word he used [23:52] schestowitz https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-5.15-Disk-Seq-No [23:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Systemd/Microsoft Effort For A Global Counter On Block/Disk Changes Coming To Linux 5.15 - Phoronix [23:52] schestowitz wth is this headline? [23:53] MinceR could be true [23:53] MinceR considering who controls "Linux" now [23:53] schestowitz not really in this case [23:53] MinceR allegedly they're throwing an SMB server in there [23:53] schestowitz I responded to it in http://techrights.org/2021/07/29/crying-wolf-systemd/ [23:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Crying Wolf! About Systemd is Only Beneficial to IBM and Systemd Developers/Pushers | Techrights [23:53] MinceR apparently that was seriously missing from the kernel [23:53] schestowitz also see http://techrights.org/2021/04/20/phoronix-and-microsoft/ [23:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Phoronix Needs to Exercise Caution and Stay Vigilant/Careful of Microsoft | Techrights [23:53] MinceR got to have a really insecure server for one of the shittiest protocols out there [23:53] schestowitz next for linux rust/github [23:54] schestowitz systemd/github [23:54] schestowitz they still work on kernel.github.io [23:54] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2020/08/27/outsourcing-linux-to-microsoft-github/ [23:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Warning: Microsoft Tim and Microsofts New Mole Inside Linux Foundation Board (a Paid-For Seat) Liaise to Outsource Linux Development to Microsofts Proprietary Software Trap | Techrights [23:54] MinceR and yes, they're also throwing a language owned by microsoft in there [23:54] schestowitz some people wrote me emails about it [23:54] schestowitz asking for help [23:54] MinceR i'm glad i'm moving to OpenBSD [23:54] DaemonFC I'm glad I finally got some sleep today. I woke up to take Mandy to work this morning and could barely keep my eyes open all the way there and back. [23:54] schestowitz kernel hackers who are sick of LF [23:54] DaemonFC Barely even remember driving him there. Just came back and fell asleep for 6 more hours. [23:55] schestowitz lately I did 2 or 3 sleeps a day [23:55] schestowitz the hard part is getting the deep sleep [23:55] schestowitz 3hr+2hr+1hr=6 [23:55] schestowitz that seems to work best [23:56] schestowitz I do a work shift tonight, 1-9am [23:56] schestowitz maybe I will quit this job one day [23:56] schestowitz the issue is, no income source spells trouble [23:57] schestowitz DaemonFC is the valet of Mannnndyyyy can't you see... [23:57] psydruid I will be running OpenBSD on several of my desktops [23:57] psydruid I have it running on AMD64 for now [23:57] MinceR i have it running on my new main (workstation) laptop [23:57] MinceR the aforementioned 990 g thing :> [23:57] psydruid PPC is next [23:57] schestowitz IBM [23:58] psydruid SPARC when I pick up my Ultra 10