●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, February 05, 2023 ●● ● Feb 05 [00:05] *tessier has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:09] *tessier (~treed@4ttmtsyvkmkvy.irc) has joined #techrights [00:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-04.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-05.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [00:23] TR News [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D494.jpg [00:24] TR News [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D826.jpg [00:25] *tessier has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:25] TR News "I wrote a bot that connects to Discord last year. It's a nice bot. It keeps facts for channel, it keeps timestamped notes per channel, it also connects to IRC (all of which we don't use) and it rolls dice (which is what we use)." gemini://alexschroeder.ch/page/2023-02-04%20systemd%20and%20my%20bot [00:26] TR News After the session gemini://alexschroeder.ch/page/2023-02-04%20After%20the%20session [00:27] XRevan86 I was wondering how to translate "", a word from Internet slang, and I've just heard a term "intellectual dishonesty", and I think that works. [00:29] XRevan86 (or " " rather) [00:30] schestowitz[TR2] in relation to whom? [00:31] XRevan86 schestowitz: Fox News :) [00:31] schestowitz[TR2] oh, yeah, them... [00:32] schestowitz[TR2] they're just worse than the rest [00:32] TR News Museums Round-Up: Commencing countdown, engines on, for opening of new Cold War museum https://cphpost.dk/2023-02-03/activities/museums-round-up-commencing-countdown-engines-on-for-opening-of-new-cold-war-museum/ [00:32] TR Bot Museums Round-Up: Commencing countdown, engines on, for opening of new Cold War museum - The Post The Post [00:33] XRevan86 schestowitz: Tucker Carlson is selling like hot cakes in Russia. [00:34] TR News "What's interesting about this project is that, on paper, it is straightforward, we just wire up one API to another, and given both deal with simple cryptography primitives it should be pretty simple... or is it?" https://ssimo.org/blog/id_022.html [00:34] TR Bot OpenSSL 3.0 Providers and PKCS#11 [00:36] TR News Tim Bielawa: Querying block device sizes in Python on Linux and Mac OS X https://blog.lnx.cx/2023/02/04/querying-block-device-sizes-in-python-on-linux-and-mac-os-x/ [00:36] TR Bot Querying block device sizes in Python on Linux and Mac OS X | Technitribe [00:37] schestowitz[TR2] XRevan86: I can imagine, based on what I read [00:38] XRevan86 It's baffling, I never would've imagined that stupid rhetoric that Russian propaganda finds perfect for its agenda is going to come from someone in the US media mainstream. [00:39] XRevan86 And not some "political expert" with 12 subscribers. [00:40] schestowitz[TR2] some people just want the platform [00:45] XRevan86 https://youtube.com/channel/UC4PJQ1qeDMjt_8cSi_cp2zA [00:45] TR Bot - YouTube [00:46] XRevan86 Clips of Tucker Carlson translated into Russian by a Z-blogger. [00:48] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [00:48] XRevan86 "Recording from a live broadcast. The episode has not been posted separately" <- That's some dedication. [00:48] *web-60 has quit (Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)) [00:48] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR2], The surgery hurt like hell. [00:49] TR News Bill Gates, who enables smuggling underage girls for sex, now pays this university to portray him as "diversity, equity and inclusion." https://record.umich.edu/articles/symposium-will-explore-universities-institutional-history/ Criminals get away with anything? [00:49] TR Bot Symposium will explore universities institutional history | The University Record [00:49] *web-60 (~web-60@freenode-kh3.f94.bdpfea.IP) has joined #techrights [00:49] DaemonFC They couldn't completely numb my toe so I told him to just go ahead and get it over with. [00:50] DaemonFC I bought a basin to do epsom salt baths for a few weeks. [00:50] TR News umich: we take bribes from criminals to do reputation laundering for these criminals (Bill Gates) https://record.umich.edu/articles/1-2m-grant-supports-effort-to-build-dei-leadership-capacity [00:50] TR Bot $1.2M grant supports effort to build DEI leadership capacity | The University Record [00:50] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [00:52] DaemonFC I have a limp now. [00:52] DaemonFC From avoiding that toe while I walk. [00:53] XRevan86 Oh my god. "NATO's admitted provoking the war in Ukraine in the face of the former chancellor of Germany". [00:53] *web-60 has quit (Ping timeout: 90 seconds) [00:53] XRevan86 This guy never listened to what Merkel said, he read the Russian media abridged version. [00:54] TR News Full Time: Propulsive film turns working and parenting into a thriller https://www.csmonitor.com/The-Culture/Movies/2023/0203/Full-Time-Propulsive-film-turns-working-and-parenting-into-a-thriller [00:54] TR Bot Time: Propulsive film turns getting to work into a thriller - CSMonitor.com [00:54] XRevan86 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Dore#Discussion_of_conspiracy_theories Respectable figure. [00:54] TR Bot Jimmy Dore - Wikipedia [00:54] *web-60 (~web-60@freenode-ttq.pto.65dg74.IP) has joined #techrights [00:54] schestowitz[TR2] oh dear [00:54] schestowitz[TR2] wikipedia [00:54] schestowitz[TR2] i hope i never make it there [00:54] schestowitz[TR2] political manipulation [00:55] schestowitz[TR2] dore is OK [00:55] schestowitz[TR2] but the ""establishment" does not like him [00:55] schestowitz[TR2] has to add some snide remarks [00:55] schestowitz[TR2] for sure [00:55] XRevan86 schestowitz: It does track though, what I'm hearing in the video ( https://youtu.be/6Y5OSoK7vfc ). It's completely overcasted with Russian though, so I don't know how to cite it here. [00:55] TR Bot https://inv.bp.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=6Y5OSoK7vfc [00:56] TR Bot timed out after 10001 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://inv.bp.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=6Y5OSoK7vfc ) [00:56] XRevan86 schestowitz: I'm listening to him right now and I wouldn't call him OK. [00:56] schestowitz[TR2] dore? he's ok [00:56] schestowitz[TR2] maybe they highlight his worse clip/s [00:56] schestowitz[TR2] to discredit him [00:56] schestowitz[TR2] like rogan with covid-19 [00:56] schestowitz[TR2] and various other people [00:57] schestowitz[TR2] look for worst, take it out of context [00:57] schestowitz[TR2] rms went on alex jones show, y'know [00:57] XRevan86 Well, by definition they would highlight the clips that help the Kremlin narrative. [00:57] XRevan86 "We blow up the Nord Stream" [00:58] XRevan86 Breaking news from Dore. [00:58] schestowitz[TR2] they did this to wikileaks too [00:58] schestowitz[TR2] all this "russiagate" thing [00:58] schestowitz[TR2] every site they doon't like... RUSSIA [00:58] schestowitz[TR2] iirc, dore makes videos every day [00:59] schestowitz[TR2] inevitably he will say something ddumb sooner or later [00:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [00:59] XRevan86 schestowitz: https://youtu.be/bP5dkR6QQj8?t=91 [00:59] TR Bot NO TITLE [00:59] XRevan86 There it is. [00:59] schestowitz[TR2] he also complains about youtube demoting him [00:59] schestowitz[TR2] which is actually true btw [00:59] *web-60 has quit (Ping timeout: 90 seconds) [00:59] *web-60 (~web-60@freenode-ttq.pto.65dg74.IP) has joined #techrights ● Feb 05 [01:00] schestowitz[TR2] https://yewtu.be/bP5dkR6QQj8?t=91 [01:00] TR Bot Jimmy Dore Brings ANTI-WAR Message To Fox News - Invidious [01:00] schestowitz[TR2] as expected [01:00] XRevan86 schestowitz: Are ye sure he's OK? He sounds a lot like activelow. [01:00] schestowitz[TR2] they use this to spin it against Biden [01:00] XRevan86 Yep. [01:00] schestowitz[TR2] doesn't matter if that helps Putin [01:01] XRevan86 schestowitz: For Tucker Carlson it's like that, for Jimmy Dore it's a little different. [01:01] schestowitz[TR2] you need to understand the context [01:01] schestowitz[TR2] dore and people he supported were wrongly spun as Russiagate something [01:02] XRevan86 So he became it? [01:02] schestowitz[TR2] to discourage any narrative that shamd US actions [01:02] schestowitz[TR2] and they aren't tolerating it anymore [01:02] XRevan86 I hear RT from his mouth. [01:02] schestowitz[TR2] you hear [01:02] schestowitz[TR2] it rhymes [01:02] schestowitz[TR2] doesn't mean he serves russia [01:02] schestowitz[TR2] he's antiwar [01:03] XRevan86 I can't allege that he does, but he's sure taking what Russian propaganda writes as truth. [01:04] TR News Days after an ice storm, thousands in the capital of Texas are still without power. https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/02/04/nyregion/cold-arctic-blast-weather/days-after-an-ice-storm-thousands-in-the-capital-of-texas-are-still-without-power [01:04] TR Bot Brutal Cold Sweeps Across New York and New England - The New York Times [01:04] *web-60 has quit (Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)) [01:04] *web-60 (~web-60@freenode-ttq.pto.65dg74.IP) has joined #techrights [01:04] schestowitz[TR2] first, not everything russia says is false [01:04] schestowitz[TR2] and not everything the biden regime says is false [01:05] schestowitz[TR2] and people who say things that benefit either side are not necessarily working for them [01:05] schestowitz[TR2] not everyone who opposes electronic voting machines is a trump supporter [01:05] XRevan86 schestowitz: I brought up the Merkel example because what he said is false. [01:05] XRevan86 And it's easy to prove. [01:06] psydruid Russia is an enemy and the USA is also an enemy [01:06] psydruid Neither of them are the good guys [01:07] XRevan86 What he said about the war in Ukraine being provoked by the US because LNG something is conspiratorial thinking worthy of aggi. [01:08] schestowitz[TR2] XRevan86: here is my own take [01:08] schestowitz[TR2] and I am no political buff [01:08] schestowitz[TR2] the US did, in some sense, provoke [01:08] *web-60 has quit (Ping timeout: 90 seconds) [01:08] *tessier (~treed@xzsbpewk5waan.irc) has joined #techrights [01:09] schestowitz[TR2] the expansion of EU and NATO to the east is unnecessary [01:09] schestowitz[TR2] it's not ukraine's head of state though [01:09] schestowitz[TR2] the invasion of crimea predates him [01:09] schestowitz[TR2] both side are being territorial [01:09] schestowitz[TR2] *sides [01:09] XRevan86 schestowitz: Notice how Putin never complained until suddenly he did. [01:09] schestowitz[TR2] i think that both sides are oppoortunistic [01:10] schestowitz[TR2] Let's face is, XRevan86: [01:10] XRevan86 If it were such a big problem, he should've given the US a heads up. [01:10] schestowitz[TR2] a coupel of years ago you posted a video here about soaring costs of living in Russia [01:10] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:10] schestowitz[TR2] in the US, similar issues [01:10] schestowitz[TR2] they know a war can help them politically [01:10] schestowitz[TR2] they can blame the war for the issues [01:10] XRevan86 "yea, mr Bush, I think this isn't great, I think I'll have to invade a neighbouring country in a decade because of this" [01:10] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #techrights [01:10] schestowitz[TR2] and change the subject [01:11] XRevan86 schestowitz: For the US this would be an internal affair. [01:11] schestowitz[TR2] now putin can jail dissidents for being unpatriotics [01:11] schestowitz[TR2] i.e. for opposing him and his needless invasion [01:11] XRevan86 For Russia this is something that sipped into Ukraine. [01:11] schestowitz[TR2] it's also truue that the us gets involved in taiwan [01:12] schestowitz[TR2] and takes on china [01:12] schestowitz[TR2] it won't end well [01:12] schestowitz[TR2] you and I just want a calm life [01:12] schestowitz[TR2] progamming, eating, sleeping [01:12] schestowitz[TR2] but some people near us are revolting [01:12] schestowitz[TR2] and the regime doesn't want the revolt [01:13] XRevan86 schestowitz: Since support for PRC in Taiwan tanked in recent years, the Taiwanese must be grateful for all the help though. [01:14] schestowitz[TR2] naaa [01:14] schestowitz[TR2] it's close to china [01:14] schestowitz[TR2] none of our business tbh [01:14] schestowitz[TR2] same for HK [01:14] XRevan86 Maybe it's not the US' fight to fight. [01:14] schestowitz[TR2] it would be devastating [01:14] schestowitz[TR2] they use taiwan as a grudge [01:14] schestowitz[TR2] against china [01:14] *birkoff (~birkoff@freenode-adfd07.pp8t.eshf.59jtia.IP) has joined #techrights [01:14] schestowitz[TR2] like japan asserting it wants hawaii back [01:14] schestowitz[TR2] in 2023 [01:14] XRevan86 But the US also wants stability in that region because important technology is exprted from there. [01:15] schestowitz[TR2] remember some families are now with kids and without jobs [01:15] XRevan86 schestowitz: I don't think it's a grudge, not worth it in that sense. [01:15] schestowitz[TR2] the us is screaming economically [01:15] schestowitz[TR2] us can also imports from mainland china [01:15] schestowitz[TR2] not taiwan [01:15] schestowitz[TR2] there are corporate interests there [01:16] XRevan86 schestowitz: Naturally, it's an economical balance in which the US has vested interest in. [01:16] schestowitz[TR2] if you think americans feel for the taiwanese, i have news for you [01:16] schestowitz[TR2] they can barely distinguish east asians [01:16] schestowitz[TR2] and they don't care for themt [01:16] schestowitz[TR2] the average american doesn't care [01:16] schestowitz[TR2] where the rice comes from etc. [01:17] XRevan86 schestowitz: I know for some countries help for Ukraine it's definitely about solidarity and being charitable, but I don't really expect that from everyone. [01:17] XRevan86 (like Poland) [01:18] TR News Chromium bumped, more pkgs compiled in OE https://bkhome.org/news/202302/chromium-bumped-more-pkgs-compiled-in-oe.html [01:18] TR Bot Chromium bumped, more pkgs compiled in OE [01:18] XRevan86 When self-interest aligns with the-right-thing-to-do, that's just nice. [01:18] schestowitz[TR2] yes, like poland [01:18] schestowitz[TR2] hence, they give them planes [01:19] schestowitz[TR2] the average american doesn't give a s* about ukraine [01:19] schestowitz[TR2] or the people there [01:19] schestowitz[TR2] they think they are also russian [01:19] schestowitz[TR2] some ukrainians call themselves russian [01:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-04.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-05.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [01:20] TR News Debugging with Git Bisect https://buildvirtual.net/debugging-with-git-bisect/ [01:20] TR Bot Debugging with Git Bisect - buildVirtual [01:21] *web-60 (~web-60@freenode-ttq.pto.65dg74.IP) has joined #techrights [01:21] psydruid I can't believe this has to be explained [01:21] psydruid the US only has interests and no allies [01:21] XRevan86 schestowitz: That's what films like 20 Days in Mariupol are for. [01:22] schestowitz[TR2] look at history of u s foreign policy [01:22] schestowitz[TR2] every country they take on they leave in disarray [01:22] schestowitz[TR2] either they bomb it [01:22] schestowitz[TR2] or intervene, they run away [01:22] schestowitz[TR2] leaving it worse off [01:22] schestowitz[TR2] *then run away [01:23] schestowitz[TR2] at least the british leave some useful infra where they leave [01:23] schestowitz[TR2] nairobi, singapore etc. [01:23] XRevan86 Luckily, it's not just the US here. [01:23] XRevan86 Not even just NATO. [01:24] MinceR 05 022148 < psydruid> the US only has interests and no allies [01:24] MinceR so what happens if another NATO member gets attacked by a non-NATO-member? [01:25] XRevan86 MinceR: Maybe what happened to Armenia when Azerbaijan attacked? :) [01:25] TR News Probot: building a Mastodon bot https://www.r-bloggers.com/2023/02/probot-building-a-mastodon-bot/ [01:25] TR Bot building a Mastodon bot | R-bloggers [01:25] XRevan86 'Tis not serious, just wanted to bring that up as a reminder. [01:25] *web-60 has quit (Ping timeout: 90 seconds) [01:26] MinceR they aren't NATO members, are they? [01:26] XRevan86 MinceR: They're members of the Collective Security Treaty Organisation [01:26] XRevan86 Which is supposed to be like NATO but Russia. [01:27] MinceR doesn't seem very fair to try to hold NATO accountable for what CSTO does [01:27] MinceR or to hold the USA accountable for it [01:27] TR News "In the desert, life depends on death." https://www.sciencealert.com/a-hidden-food-web-exists-in-the-desert-and-it-thrives-on-death [01:27] TR Bot Hidden Food Web Exists in The Desert, And It Thrives on Death : ScienceAlert [01:27] MinceR i'm interested in the "food web" that _doesn't_ involve death [01:27] XRevan86 Err, I used it as an intentionally faulty analogy to remind how well Russia holds up its end of the deal. [01:31] TR News Microsoft is the cause of many security incidents, but the gullible, sometimes Microsoft-sponsored, media will try to pretend Microsoft is a security expert, leveraging political sentiments to shift the blame and deflect responsibility https://www.securityweek.com/microsoft-iran-unit-behind-charlie-hebdo-hack-and-leak-p/ [01:31] TR Bot Iran Unit Behind Charlie Hebdo Hack-and-Leak Op - SecurityWeek [01:31] TR News One Song, Many Writers https://feed.tedium.co/link/15204/15956153/why-do-modern-pop-songs-have-so-many-credited-writers [01:31] TR Bot Why Do Modern Pop Songs Have So Many Credited Writers? [01:32] TR News Bypassing Government Censorship Around NordVPN on Linux https://fosspost.org/bypass-censorship-nordvpn-linux/ [01:32] TR Bot Bypassing Government Censorship Around NordVPN on Linux [01:33] TR News VPN spam is a real problem, as it even invades otherwise good sites] [01:34] TR News Tilting at the Belltower gemini://idiomdrottning.org/tilting-at-the-belltower [01:35] TR News "I find it hard to move past the fact that the limitation of all humans living on the same continent and no communities popping up elsewhere is, to be frank, unimplementable." gemini://station.martinrue.com/kocka_collector/3559db4ccf4d47adb6f496235ebbe2f8 [01:35] TR News Notes about an overheard conversation while driving home gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/2023/02/04.1 [01:36] DaemonFC I had ChatGPT write a FOIA request to the FBI for me. [01:36] schestowitz[TR2] and it sucked, right? [01:36] schestowitz[TR2] quic, but.. [01:36] schestowitz[TR2] bad quality [01:37] schestowitz[TR2] there is a new trend now: [01:37] schestowitz[TR2] like, "assisted" by HEY HI [01:37] schestowitz[TR2] like, generate some crap for me [01:37] schestowitz[TR2] I will 'massage' it afterwards [01:37] schestowitz[TR2] that's not saving tiume [01:39] TR News Upgrading system Off-line with ISO and Yum https://linuxconcept.com/upgrading-system-off-line-with-iso-and-yum/ [01:39] TR Bot Upgrading system Off-line with ISO and Yum [01:39] *web-60 (~web-60@freenode-ttq.pto.65dg74.IP) has joined #techrights [01:39] TR News Configuring Yum https://linuxconcept.com/configuring-yum/ [01:39] TR Bot Configuring Yum [01:40] MinceR finally we can have machine-generated technical debt [01:40] MinceR and have humans deal with it [01:41] TR News Yum Commands and Options https://linuxconcept.com/yum-commands-and-options/ [01:41] TR Bot Yum Commands and Options [01:41] TR News Setting up a YUM Repository https://linuxconcept.com/setting-up-a-yum-repository/ [01:41] TR Bot Setting up a YUM Repository [01:41] schestowitz[TR2] MinceR: more BS jobs [01:41] schestowitz[TR2] btw, cnet is accused of having used SM-elizabot to make 'articles' [01:41] schestowitz[TR2] i have cnet in my rss feeds right now [01:41] schestowitz[TR2] it's like 100% noise [01:42] schestowitz[TR2] "deals" and spam [01:42] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR2], I also had it help write a thank you letter to my attorney. [01:42] schestowitz[TR2] the site has become a spamfarm basically [01:42] DaemonFC It's the thought that counts. [01:42] schestowitz[TR2] even non-tech non-stories [01:42] schestowitz[TR2] pure spam [01:42] DaemonFC No, it did as well as I would have had I written it. [01:42] schestowitz[TR2] just to improve ranks in search engines for particular crap [01:42] schestowitz[TR2] one step away from "casino" articles [01:42] *immibis_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:43] schestowitz[TR2] schestowitz[TR2], I also had it help write a thank you letter to my attorney. [01:43] schestowitz[TR2] you could use a template [01:43] schestowitz[TR2] "how to write a letter thanking an attorney" [01:43] *immibis_ (~immibis@b7zwz8tn5nzkn.irc) has joined #techrights [01:43] *web-60 has quit (Ping timeout: 90 seconds) [01:43] schestowitz[TR2] then click an actual link to an actual site [01:43] schestowitz[TR2] https://holidappy.com/greeting-cards/Thank-You-Note-to-Attorney-for-Services-Rendered [01:43] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://holidappy.com/greeting-cards/Thank-You-Note-to-Attorney-for-Services-Rendered ) [01:44] schestowitz[TR2] https://inkforall.com/ai-writing-tools/thank-you-email/thank-you-letter-to-the-lawyer/ [01:44] TR Bot How to Write Thank You Letter to Lawyer or Attorney - INK [01:44] schestowitz[TR2] https://www.sgplaw.com/blog/2020/september/thank-you-letter-to-your-attorney-samples-from-c/ [01:44] TR Bot Thank You Letter To Your Attorney (Samples from Client) [01:44] schestowitz[TR2] https://www.pinterest.com/pin/235876099213847524/ [01:44] TR Bot How to Write a Thank-You Letter to a Lawyer | Thank you letter, Thank you notes, Thank you [01:44] schestowitz[TR2] https://www.mailtoself.com/thank-you/thank-you-letter-to-lawyer/ [01:44] TR Bot Thank You Letter To Lawyer: How To, Templates & Examples | Mail To Self [01:44] schestowitz[TR2] "Templates & Examples" [01:44] *immibis_ has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [01:45] schestowitz[TR2] DaemonFC: you're becoming a bing commercial [01:45] *immibis_ (~immibis@2a02:3032:e:27ab:bca1:ce8f:5629:7fc) has joined #techrights [01:45] DaemonFC It's sort of like dictating a letter to a secretary. [01:46] DaemonFC Going over the highlights and letting them fill it in. [01:47] TR News REVIEW: The Psychology of Totalitarianism https://off-guardian.org/2023/02/04/review-the-psychology-of-totalitarianism/ [01:47] TR Bot REVIEW: The Psychology of Totalitarianism OffGuardian [01:47] TR News Unconditional Surrender https://off-guardian.org/2023/02/04/unconditional-surrender/ [01:47] TR Bot Unconditional Surrender OffGuardian [01:47] schestowitz[TR2] "It's sort of like dictating a letter to a secretary." [01:48] schestowitz[TR2] maybe elizabot [01:48] schestowitz[TR2] not a witty worker [01:48] schestowitz[TR2] you could just pickm a template written by a real person [01:49] TR News "Similarly to all electronic computers, the Raspberry PI computer boards need a stable power supply in order to work correctly." https://peppe8o.com/raspberry-pi-undervoltage-detected/ [01:49] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://peppe8o.com/raspberry-pi-undervoltage-detected/ ) [01:50] TR News C.J. 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SiliconANGLE also bags bribes from them, hence it relays this kind of nonsense. https://siliconangle.com/2023/02/04/ai-threats-open-source-vulnerabilities-top-host-security-issues-facing-cloud-native-community/ [01:57] TR Bot threats and open-source vulnerabilities top host of security issues facing cloud-native community - SiliconANGLE [01:57] TR News Clown computing is a a bubble that us bursting https://siliconangle.com/2023/02/04/cloud-players-sound-cautious-tone-2023/ [01:57] TR Bot players sound a cautious tone for 2023 - SiliconANGLE [01:58] DaemonFC I'll be off soaking my toe for a while. [01:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [01:59] TR News HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI Some Microsoft name-dropping HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI. 'Journalism' in 2023. Lots of HEY HI HEY HI spam in January. 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Why is the Biden Administration Still Pursuing It? | News & Commentary | American Civil Liberties Union [02:03] *Now talking on #techrights [02:03] *Creation time of #techrights changed from Sun Feb 05 2023 02:03:37 to Sat Feb 04 2023 17:02:49 [02:03] **.freenode.net sets mode -n #techrights [02:03] **.freenode.net sets mode -t #techrights [02:03] **.freenode.net removes channel operator status from :schestowitz[TR] [02:03] **.freenode.net sets mode +n #techrights [02:03] **.freenode.net sets mode +t #techrights [02:03] *Techrights-sec (~quassel@freenode-l1k.svk.i86sua.IP) has joined #techrights [02:03] *hvxgr (~wl2v_usrn@freenode-ong.pov.c33bnd.IP) has joined #techrights [02:03] *rianne (~rianne@freenode-l1k.svk.i86sua.IP) has joined #techrights [02:03] *rowbee (~augh@freenode-6n0.an1.6o3glj.IP) has joined #techrights [02:03] *cybrNaut (~cybrNaut@freenode-tto.k1n.ssv8hv.IP) has joined #techrights [02:03] *Techrights-sec2 (~quassel@freenode-l1k.svk.i86sua.IP) has joined #techrights [02:03] *mekkis (~mekkis@freenode-ej1.p09.41uflq.IP) has joined #techrights [02:03] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@freenode-tpn.0da.kqdbb5.IP) has joined #techrights [02:03] *lightbringer (mincer@freenode/user/lightbringer) has joined #techrights [02:03] *jkl (~jkl@freenode/user/jkl) has joined #techrights [02:03] *sbp (~sbp@freenode-1m86vc.cfhm.haf7.0u8u7u.IP) has joined #techrights [02:03] *vallor (~Ponzo@freenode-pbi.6r7.6bqj79.IP) has joined #techrights [02:03] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [02:04] *lightbringer has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [02:05] *lightbringer (mincer@freenode/user/lightbringer) has joined #techrights [02:05] *kermit (sid393220@freenode/user/kermit) has joined #techrights [02:05] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@freenode/user/Noisytoot) has joined #techrights [02:05] schestowitz[TR2] DaemonFC: https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/tottenham-vs-man-city-livestream-how-to-watch-premier-league-soccer-from-anywhere/ [02:05] TR Bot vs. Man City Livestream: How to Watch Premier League Soccer From Anywhere - CNET [02:05] *ohama (ohama@freenode-0df.kav.vc6dkt.IP) has joined #techrights [02:05] schestowitz[TR2] example of cnet spam [02:05] schestowitz[TR2] they target people who will search for it sunday [02:05] schestowitz[TR2] and act as a reseller of access [02:05] schestowitz[TR2] cnet is basically a spam site now [02:06] schestowitz[TR2] a spamfarm [02:06] schestowitz[TR2] https://www.cnet.com/rss/all/ [02:06] schestowitz[TR2] survey the list [02:06] schestowitz[TR2] it's like 90% spam [02:06] schestowitz[TR2] they USED to employ ACTUAL journalists [02:07] *Adran (~adran@freenode-tf0oar.j78q.vhn8.esuooj.IP) has joined #techrights [02:08] TR News Microsoft Windows TCO https://www.databreaches.net/the-fbi-tried-in-vain-the-russian-case-against-revil-turned-out-to-be-insignificant/ [02:08] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.databreaches.net/the-fbi-tried-in-vain-the-russian-case-against-revil-turned-out-to-be-insignificant/ ) [02:09] *tessier (~treed@xzsbpewk5waan.irc) has joined #techrights [02:11] TR News Courts Must Not Allow Litigants to Plead Around The First Amendments Speech Protections https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/02/courts-must-not-allow-litigants-plead-around-first-amendments-speech-protections [02:11] TR Bot Courts Must Not Allow Litigants to Plead Around The First Amendments Speech Protections | Electronic Frontier Foundation [02:12] TR News Pakistan blocks Wikipedia over 'sacrilegious' content https://www.engadget.com/pakistan-blocks-wikipedia-sacrilegious-content-151427009.html [02:12] TR Bot blocks Wikipedia over 'sacrilegious' content | Engadget [02:13] *Adran has quit (*.net *.split) [02:13] *kermit has quit (*.net *.split) [02:13] *lightbringer has quit (*.net *.split) [02:13] *vallor has quit (*.net *.split) [02:13] *mekkis has quit (*.net *.split) [02:13] *rowbee has quit (*.net *.split) [02:13] *rianne has quit (*.net *.split) [02:13] *jkl has quit (*.net *.split) [02:13] *Techrights-sec has quit (*.net *.split) [02:13] *hvxgr has quit (*.net *.split) [02:13] *cybrNaut has quit (*.net *.split) [02:13] *sbp has quit (*.net *.split) [02:13] *Techrights-sec2 has quit (*.net *.split) [02:13] TR News Converting MKV to MP4 on Ubuntu: A Step-by-Step Guide https://www.fosslinux.com/97880/converting-mkv-to-mp4-on-ubuntu.htm [02:13] TR Bot Converting MKV to MP4 on Ubuntu: A Step-by-Step Guide [02:16] TR News Hong Kongs largest national security trial to begin Monday as 47 democrats face up to life behind bars https://hongkongfp.com/2023/02/05/hong-kongs-largest-national-security-trial-to-begin-monday-as-47-democrats-face-up-to-life-behind-bars/ [02:16] TR Bot Hong Kong's largest national security trial to begin Monday as 47 democrats face up to life behind bars - 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HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-040223.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-040223.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techbytes-040223.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techbytes-040223.txt [02:42] TR Bot IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, February 04, 2023 [02:45] TR News U.S. Weighs Sanctions For Chinese Companies Over Iran Surveillance Buildup https://www.rferl.org/a/iran-us-sanctions-tiandy-china/32255543.html [02:45] TR Bot U.S. Weighs Sanctions For Chinese Companies Over Iran Surveillance Buildup [02:45] TR News Pakistan Blocks Wikipedia Over 'Blasphemous Content' https://www.rferl.org/a/pakistan-ban-wikipedia-blasphemy-/32255510.html [02:45] TR Bot Pakistan Blocks Wikipedia Over 'Blasphemous Content' [02:48] TR News Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2023-02-04.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2023-02-04.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now) [02:49] XRevan86 schestowitz: I don't know, quite possibly. [02:49] schestowitz[TR2] do you know who to check with? [02:49] schestowitz[TR2] see, here's the thing [02:49] schestowitz[TR2] many sites outside twitterm send copies to twitter [02:49] schestowitz[TR2] if that steps, the ramifications will be rather big [02:49] schestowitz[TR2] do those count as "Bots" [02:49] schestowitz[TR2] will twitter block api access [02:50] schestowitz[TR2] do they need to license a paid bridge? 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[02:55] schestowitz[TR2] same as freenod [02:55] schestowitz[TR2] afaik, nothing goes on at freenode [02:55] *kermit is now known as Guest2581 [02:55] schestowitz[TR2] it's just a waste of electricity at this point [02:55] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@freenode/user/Noisytoot) has joined #techrights [02:56] *Adran (~adran@freenode-tf0oar.j78q.vhn8.esuooj.IP) has joined #techrights [02:56] schestowitz[TR2] 10k node pinging one anopther [02:56] *lightbringer (mincer@freenode/user/lightbringer) has joined #techrights [02:56] schestowitz[TR2] but no actual use made of it [02:56] schestowitz[TR2] *nodes [02:56] schestowitz[TR2] if they shut ddown the hive, not much will change [02:58] TR News Investigative reporting is dead. All "the news" is pretty much the same, mostly war and gossip, cushioned by minor local news incidents, PR, spam, and shopping disguised as "news". [02:59] XRevan86 Elon Musk came in with freezepeach in rhetoric, so what he do almost immediately? Shut down API. [02:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [02:59] XRevan86 And he also banned his critics too of course. [02:59] TR News Facebook incentiving bad behaviour www.usnews.com/news/best-states/minnesota/articles/2023-02-04/charges-instagram-post-shows-teens-flashing-guns-in-school ● Feb 05 [03:00] schestowitz[TR2] incentivising [03:00] schestowitz[TR2] XRevan86: even before, he was against freee speech in twitter [03:00] schestowitz[TR2] and people took note of major incidents like these [03:00] schestowitz[TR2] insisting he would not tolerate critics [03:00] schestowitz[TR2] or even satire [03:02] *GNUmoon has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [03:02] IPFS Gemini requests since start of month: 21447 total Total number of pages in capsule: 44757 Active: active (running) since Thu 2022-08-04 09:15:14 BST; 6 months 2 days ago [03:03] IPFS IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. 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[03:07] AdmFubar https://arstechnica.com/?p=1914894 [03:07] TR Bot Samsung Pro SSD reliability questioned as longtime partner shifts to Sabrent | Ars Technica [03:08] AdmFubar https://arstechnica.com/?p=1915026 [03:08] TR Bot SEC gets $35 million settlement in Activision misconduct disclosure case | Ars Technica [03:08] TR News Don't wait for YouTube to collapse completely. Don't wait for Twitter to collapse completely. Don't wait for FB to collapse completely. Heed the warning. See the inevitable. Leave today. Move on. [03:08] schestowitz[TR2] AdmFubar: my samsung SSD died 10 days ago [03:08] schestowitz[TR2] i lost some data, but not much [03:09] schestowitz[TR2] mostly meme template and soem recent script changes [03:09] XRevan86 schestowitz: Which model? [03:09] schestowitz[TR2] cannot recall [03:09] schestowitz[TR2] some number [03:09] TR News (NEW): Free Software: SCALE, Open Source Initiative, FreedomBox http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/05/Free_Software_SCALE_Open_Source_Initiative_FreedomBox.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/05/Free_Software_SCALE_Open_Source_Initiative_FreedomBox.gmi [03:09] TR Bot Tux Machines Free Software: SCALE, Open Source Initiative, FreedomBox [03:09] TR News (NEW): Programming Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/05/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/05/Programming_Leftovers.gmi [03:09] TR Bot Tux Machines Programming Leftovers [03:09] schestowitz[TR2] at least I took advantage and moved to Debian 11 [03:09] schestowitz[TR2] it was 10 before [03:09] schestowitz[TR2] rianne still uses 10 on her laptgop [03:10] schestowitz[TR2] 11 on her pi [03:10] TR News (NEW): Devices: Raspberry Pi, CircuitPython, and MicroBlocks http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/05/Devices_Raspberry_Pi_CircuitPython_and_MicroBlocks.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/05/Devices_Raspberry_Pi_CircuitPython_and_MicroBlocks.gmi [03:10] TR Bot Tux Machines Devices: Raspberry Pi, CircuitPython, and MicroBlocks [03:10] XRevan86 schestowitz: Some number as a model? That narrows it down (: [03:10] schestowitz[TR2] yesterday night I tied some loose ends [03:10] schestowitz[TR2] it's OK, Debian 11 works OK, but some things seem slower than 10 [03:10] schestowitz[TR2] SSDs are not reliable, but i/o is FAST [03:11] schestowitz[TR2] i brought in the used one [03:11] schestowitz[TR2] in front of me [03:11] schestowitz[TR2] lots of numbes there [03:11] schestowitz[TR2] which one is the model [03:12] schestowitz[TR2] one says "MODEL: MZ-VLW2560" [03:12] XRevan86 I have EVO 960. [03:13] schestowitz[TR2] so it didn't even last 5 years! [03:13] schestowitz[TR2] after 4 it started warning me [03:13] schestowitz[TR2] so I moved as critical data off this drive [03:14] schestowitz[TR2] samsung: the south korean military giant with north korean marketing [03:14] XRevan86 PM961 [03:15] schestowitz[TR2] the replacemement i bought was crosair [03:15] XRevan86 M.2, heh. I've an old SATA one. [03:15] schestowitz[TR2] the guy at the shop said [03:15] schestowitz[TR2] I told him, [03:15] schestowitz[TR2] but they don't make storage [03:15] schestowitz[TR2] he said, ok, it's toshiba [03:15] schestowitz[TR2] rebranded [03:15] schestowitz[TR2] like ibm and hitachi [03:15] *birkoff (birkoff@freenode-2mn.d28.de28dt.IP) has joined #techrights [03:16] schestowitz[TR2] i hope this laptop will last the next 5 years [03:18] schestowitz[TR2] i need thius quad-core machine for video processing mostly [03:18] schestowitz[TR2] it's idle the rest of the time [03:18] schestowitz[TR2] just command line windows and text editors [03:18] schestowitz[TR2] the other machines are even weaker [03:18] schestowitz[TR2] and also lots of cli, irc clients, some browsers like netsurf, gemini clients [03:19] XRevan86 EVO 860 I mean. [03:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-04.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-05.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [03:20] XRevan86 schestowitz: Yours was from 2016 [03:20] schestowitz[TR2] the raspi4 machines (2 of themn) are about as powerful as the laptops [03:20] schestowitz[TR2] XRevan86: the laptop is [03:21] schestowitz[TR2] but somehow the sticker on the drive says 2018 [03:21] schestowitz[TR2] maybe something about warranty [03:21] schestowitz[TR2] not sure [03:21] schestowitz[TR2] i got this laptop second hand [03:21] schestowitz[TR2] "preowned" [03:21] schestowitz[TR2] we always try to get them at bargain prices [03:21] schestowitz[TR2] and sometimes we get lucky and tthey don't beak down [03:21] schestowitz[TR2] my monitor cost 20 or 29pounds [03:22] schestowitz[TR2] 24 inches [03:23] MinceR pre-pwned :> [03:24] TR News CNET used to employ some actual journalists, smart people. Now it's a spamfarm. Probably reckoned it's better than to shut the thing down... to try to 'monetise' what's left of DOWNLOAD.COM franchise from the 1990s. [03:24] schestowitz[TR2] MinceR: it had windows when I got it, wiped right away [03:24] schestowitz[TR2] same for rianne's [03:24] MinceR :> [03:24] schestowitz[TR2] I even used her debian cd-rom for that [03:24] schestowitz[TR2] she installed it [03:25] schestowitz[TR2] so it was technically prepwned [03:25] MinceR so you replaced windows with imitation windows :> [03:25] schestowitz[TR2] even booted into it once [03:25] schestowitz[TR2] so microsoft saw the ip address [03:25] schestowitz[TR2] MinceR: gay de ee [03:25] MinceR system dee [03:26] *GNUmoon has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [03:26] schestowitz[TR2] agentsmith calls it systemduick [03:26] MinceR agentsmith :> [03:26] schestowitz[TR2] alejandro escobar [03:26] schestowitz[TR2] he was here in irc in the distant past [03:28] TR News pclos Screenshot Showcase https://pclosmag.com/html/Issues/202302/page12.html [03:28] TR Bot PCLinuxOS Magazine - Page 12 [03:30] TR News pclosmag has become a lot about the editor's family, not pclos https://pclosmag.com/html/Issues/202302/editorial.html [03:30] TR Bot PCLinuxOS Magazine - Welcome From The Chief Editor [03:31] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [03:31] TR News "Last month it was LastPass, and the dust has hardly even started to settle from that data breach. Now, it's someone else's turn." https://pclosmag.com/html/Issues/202302/page06.html [03:31] TR Bot PCLinuxOS Magazine - Page 6 [03:32] *cybrNaut has quit (*.net *.split) [03:32] *lightbringer has quit (*.net *.split) [03:32] *Noisytoot has quit (*.net *.split) [03:32] *Guest2581 has quit (*.net *.split) [03:32] *ohama has quit (*.net *.split) [03:32] *vallor has quit (*.net *.split) [03:32] *mekkis has quit (*.net *.split) [03:32] *rowbee has quit (*.net *.split) [03:32] *sbp has quit (*.net *.split) [03:32] *Techrights-sec2 has quit (*.net *.split) [03:32] *web-60 has quit (*.net *.split) [03:35] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR2], So something went weird with my Casio. [03:35] DaemonFC It stopped doing atomic time and managed to drift a bit. 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[03:36] DaemonFC Yeah. [03:36] DaemonFC Solar. [03:36] TR News Repo Review: Koodo Reader https://pclosmag.com/html/Issues/202302/page04.html [03:36] TR Bot PCLinuxOS Magazine - Page 4 [03:36] DaemonFC It's charged enough that it should be able to use atomic time. 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[03:41] DaemonFC Ionospheric conditions and radio interference should be as good as they'll get for this. [03:41] TR News (NEW): Exploring LXQt: A Basic Guide, Part 1 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/05/Exploring_LXQt_A_Basic_Guide_Part_1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/05/Exploring_LXQt_A_Basic_Guide_Part_1.gmi [03:41] TR Bot Tux Machines Exploring LXQt: A Basic Guide, Part 1 [03:41] *vallor has quit (*.net *.split) [03:41] *mekkis has quit (*.net *.split) [03:41] *rowbee has quit (*.net *.split) [03:41] *ohama has quit (*.net *.split) [03:41] *Noisytoot has quit (*.net *.split) [03:41] *Guest2581 has quit (*.net *.split) [03:41] *lightbringer has quit (*.net *.split) [03:41] *cybrNaut has quit (*.net *.split) [03:41] *Techrights-sec2 has quit (*.net *.split) [03:41] *sbp has quit (*.net *.split) [03:42] DaemonFC I guess if nothing else works I can go up to the bar at the Hancock Building and stand by a window. 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[03:43] DaemonFC The numbing agent is wearing off. [03:43] *web-60 has quit (Ping timeout: 90 seconds) [03:43] DaemonFC The nail doesn't look as bad as I thought it would. [03:43] schestowitz[TR2] ok, whatever [03:43] *vallor has quit (*.net *.split) [03:43] *mekkis has quit (*.net *.split) [03:43] *rowbee has quit (*.net *.split) [03:43] *ohama has quit (*.net *.split) [03:43] *Noisytoot has quit (*.net *.split) [03:43] *Guest2581 has quit (*.net *.split) [03:43] *lightbringer has quit (*.net *.split) [03:43] *cybrNaut has quit (*.net *.split) [03:43] *sbp has quit (*.net *.split) [03:43] schestowitz[TR2] toe tales [03:44] schestowitz[TR2] tall tales, toe tales [03:44] DaemonFC The podiatrist says that it usually gets to looking pretty red and puffy for a while and he had a woman run to the Urgent Care and then they were doing stuff to her toe in the ER and it just ran up a lot of unnecessary medical bills for her. [03:44] schestowitz[TR2] fine, not b ack to tech [03:44] schestowitz[TR2] you keep publishing medical info abour yourself in this logged channel [03:44] *Guest2581 (sid393220@freenode-sbc.p48.gtmbaa.IP) has joined #techrights [03:44] *ohama (~ohama@freenode-0df.kav.vc6dkt.IP) has joined #techrights [03:44] *vallor (~Ponzo@freenode-pbi.6r7.6bqj79.IP) has joined #techrights [03:44] *rowbee (~augh@freenode-6n0.an1.6o3glj.IP) has joined #techrights [03:44] *mekkis (~mekkis@freenode-ej1.p09.41uflq.IP) has joined #techrights [03:44] *sbp (~sbp@freenode-1m86vc.cfhm.haf7.0u8u7u.IP) has joined #techrights [03:44] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@freenode/user/Noisytoot) has joined #techrights [03:44] *lightbringer (mincer@freenode/user/lightbringer) has joined #techrights [03:44] *cybrNaut (~cybrNaut@freenode-tto.k1n.ssv8hv.IP) has joined #techrights [03:44] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR2], Apparently, podiatrists seem to be noticing more ingrown toenails in people who had COVID. [03:45] DaemonFC I'm trying to figure out if this is a thing or not. [03:45] DaemonFC I don't really care if GULAGtroll knows about my toe. [03:45] DaemonFC It's a very common condition. [03:45] DaemonFC Easily fixed. 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[03:47] schestowitz[TR2] our regime and billBC now dsays, [03:47] schestowitz[TR2] last chance for under 52s to get "booster" [03:47] DaemonFC Got my choice between Prevnar-20 or Pneumovax-23. [03:47] schestowitz[TR2] they change the guidance [03:47] DaemonFC So Prevnar is Pfizer. [03:47] schestowitz[TR2] no more boosters for under 50sm [03:47] schestowitz[TR2] they must have noticed the risk outweights baneit [03:48] schestowitz[TR2] *benefoits [03:48] DaemonFC I got Prevnar-13 last year. But it's been in use since 2010. [03:48] DaemonFC The safety profile is well known. 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[03:51] schestowitz[TR2] and "low risk" [03:51] DaemonFC *us [03:52] AdmFubar https://slashdot.org/story/23/02/04/1820204/ai-models-spit-out-photos-of-real-people-and-copyrighted-images [03:52] TR Bot AI Models Spit Out Photos of Real People and Copyrighted Images - Slashdot [03:52] schestowitz[TR2] DaemonFC: now you can go back to the office [03:52] schestowitz[TR2] i.e. your cubicle and mixed chair [03:52] schestowitz[TR2] hot-desking [03:52] schestowitz[TR2] AdmFubar: HI!! HEY. Hi. [03:52] *Guest2581 (sid393220@freenode-sbc.p48.gtmbaa.IP) has joined #techrights [03:52] *ohama (~ohama@freenode-0df.kav.vc6dkt.IP) has joined #techrights [03:52] *rowbee (~augh@freenode-6n0.an1.6o3glj.IP) has joined #techrights [03:52] *mekkis (~mekkis@freenode-ej1.p09.41uflq.IP) has joined #techrights [03:52] *sbp (~sbp@freenode-1m86vc.cfhm.haf7.0u8u7u.IP) has joined #techrights [03:52] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@freenode/user/Noisytoot) has joined #techrights [03:52] *lightbringer (mincer@freenode/user/lightbringer) has joined #techrights [03:52] *cybrNaut (~cybrNaut@freenode-tto.k1n.ssv8hv.IP) has joined #techrights [03:52] schestowitz[TR2] it looks so real [03:52] schestowitz[TR2] CG [03:52] schestowitz[TR2] maybe it is real. [03:54] AdmFubar is it live? or I it memorex? 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[03:55] DaemonFC https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/topten/michael-james-pratt [03:55] TR Bot MICHAEL JAMES PRATT FBI [03:55] *Guest2581 (sid393220@freenode-sbc.p48.gtmbaa.IP) has joined #techrights [03:55] *ohama (~ohama@freenode-0df.kav.vc6dkt.IP) has joined #techrights [03:55] *rowbee (~augh@freenode-6n0.an1.6o3glj.IP) has joined #techrights [03:55] *mekkis (~mekkis@freenode-ej1.p09.41uflq.IP) has joined #techrights [03:55] *sbp (~sbp@freenode-1m86vc.cfhm.haf7.0u8u7u.IP) has joined #techrights [03:55] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@freenode/user/Noisytoot) has joined #techrights [03:55] *lightbringer (mincer@freenode/user/lightbringer) has joined #techrights [03:55] *cybrNaut (~cybrNaut@freenode-tto.k1n.ssv8hv.IP) has joined #techrights [03:55] DaemonFC He got in the same way as GULAGTROLL. [03:55] DaemonFC Flash bank account, get in there! [03:55] DaemonFC They got him too. [03:55] DaemonFC They captured him. [03:56] AdmFubar you're dreaming that this is death.... [03:56] *web-60 (~web-60@freenode-er0.s48.g1iorc.IP) has joined #techrights [03:56] DaemonFC "The owner and operator of a pornography production company is charged with sex trafficking and production of child pornography." [03:56] *mekkis has quit (*.net *.split) [03:56] *rowbee has quit (*.net *.split) [03:56] *ohama has quit (*.net *.split) [03:56] *Noisytoot has quit (*.net *.split) [03:56] *Guest2581 has quit (*.net *.split) [03:56] *lightbringer has quit (*.net *.split) [03:56] *cybrNaut has quit (*.net *.split) [03:56] *sbp has quit (*.net *.split) [03:56] DaemonFC AdmFubar, Is this Heaven? "No. It's not Heaven." Is this Hell? "No it's not Hell either, though I hear California is getting close." [03:57] *Guest2581 (sid393220@freenode-sbc.p48.gtmbaa.IP) has joined #techrights [03:57] *ohama (~ohama@freenode-0df.kav.vc6dkt.IP) has joined #techrights [03:57] *rowbee (~augh@freenode-6n0.an1.6o3glj.IP) has joined #techrights [03:57] *mekkis (~mekkis@freenode-ej1.p09.41uflq.IP) has joined #techrights [03:57] *sbp (~sbp@freenode-1m86vc.cfhm.haf7.0u8u7u.IP) has joined #techrights [03:57] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@freenode/user/Noisytoot) has joined #techrights [03:57] *lightbringer (mincer@freenode/user/lightbringer) has joined #techrights [03:57] *cybrNaut (~cybrNaut@freenode-tto.k1n.ssv8hv.IP) has joined #techrights [03:57] AdmFubar but of course they don't give a rat's ass about it! https://science.slashdot.org/story/23/02/04/0149213/blobs-of-human-brain-planted-in-rats-offer-new-treatment-hope [03:57] TR Bot Blobs of Human Brain Planted In Rats Offer New Treatment Hope - Slashdot [03:58] DaemonFC https://www.thedailybeast.com/girlsdoporn-fugitive-michael-james-pratt-arrested-in-spain [03:58] TR Bot GirlsDoPorn Fugitive Michael James Pratt Arrested in Spain [03:58] AdmFubar https://science.slashdot.org/story/23/02/03/181242/vaccine-makers-kept-14-billion-in-prepayments-for-canceled-covid-shots-for-the-worlds-poor [03:58] TR Bot Vaccine Makers Kept $1.4 Billion in Prepayments for Canceled Covid Shots for the World's Poor - Slashdot [03:58] *mekkis has quit (*.net *.split) [03:58] *rowbee has quit (*.net *.split) [03:58] *ohama has quit (*.net *.split) [03:58] *Noisytoot has quit (*.net *.split) [03:58] *Guest2581 has quit (*.net *.split) [03:58] *lightbringer has quit (*.net *.split) [03:58] *cybrNaut has quit (*.net *.split) [03:58] *sbp has quit (*.net *.split) [03:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [03:59] AdmFubar https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-02-03/billionaire-calls-sri-lanka-corrupt-then-offers-bitcoin-fix [03:59] TR Bot - Are you a robot? ● Feb 05 [04:01] AdmFubar and you thought most sales people were bad now.... https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-02-02/microsoft-uses-chatgpt-maker-s-ai-to-write-emails-for-busy-salespeople [04:01] TR Bot - Are you a robot? [04:01] *Guest2581 (sid393220@freenode-sbc.p48.gtmbaa.IP) has joined #techrights [04:01] *ohama (~ohama@freenode-0df.kav.vc6dkt.IP) has joined #techrights [04:01] *rowbee (~augh@freenode-6n0.an1.6o3glj.IP) has joined #techrights [04:01] *mekkis (~mekkis@freenode-ej1.p09.41uflq.IP) has joined #techrights [04:01] *sbp (~sbp@freenode-1m86vc.cfhm.haf7.0u8u7u.IP) has joined #techrights [04:01] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@freenode/user/Noisytoot) has joined #techrights [04:01] *lightbringer (mincer@freenode/user/lightbringer) has joined #techrights [04:01] *cybrNaut (~cybrNaut@freenode-tto.k1n.ssv8hv.IP) has joined #techrights [04:02] schestowitz[TR2] did dina bass write it? [04:02] schestowitz[TR2] i am guessing [04:02] schestowitz[TR2] did not click [04:02] schestowitz[TR2] more puff pieces for microsoft [04:02] schestowitz[TR2] HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI [04:02] schestowitz[TR2] try now [04:02] schestowitz[TR2] everyone talks about it [04:02] schestowitz[TR2] you MUST download it [04:02] schestowitz[TR2] and try it [04:02] *mekkis has quit (*.net *.split) [04:02] *rowbee has quit (*.net *.split) [04:02] *ohama has quit (*.net *.split) [04:02] *Noisytoot has quit (*.net *.split) [04:02] *Guest2581 has quit (*.net *.split) [04:02] *lightbringer has quit (*.net *.split) [04:02] *cybrNaut has quit (*.net *.split) [04:02] *sbp has quit (*.net *.split) [04:02] schestowitz[TR2] new theme of puff pieceS: [04:02] schestowitz[TR2] judge used it [04:03] schestowitz[TR2] microsoft uses it [04:03] schestowitz[TR2] lawyers use it [04:03] schestowitz[TR2] (they don't) [04:03] schestowitz[TR2] to make it seem more potent than it actually is [04:03] schestowitz[TR2] and get you to try it [04:03] schestowitz[TR2] like DaemonFC did [04:03] *schestowitz[TR2] customising kate [04:03] *Guest2581 (sid393220@freenode-sbc.p48.gtmbaa.IP) has joined #techrights [04:03] *ohama (~ohama@freenode-0df.kav.vc6dkt.IP) has joined #techrights [04:03] *rowbee (~augh@freenode-6n0.an1.6o3glj.IP) has joined #techrights [04:03] *mekkis (~mekkis@freenode-ej1.p09.41uflq.IP) has joined #techrights [04:03] *sbp (~sbp@freenode-1m86vc.cfhm.haf7.0u8u7u.IP) has joined #techrights [04:03] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@freenode/user/Noisytoot) has joined #techrights [04:03] *lightbringer (mincer@freenode/user/lightbringer) has joined #techrights [04:03] *cybrNaut (~cybrNaut@freenode-tto.k1n.ssv8hv.IP) has joined #techrights [04:03] AdmFubar no need to click the link... the headline is enough [04:04] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR2], I used it to help me draft a response and counterclaim to a small claims lawsuit that was filed against my cousin's friend. 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There's a lot of "Defendent has no knowledge of this and denies same.". Then I'm counter-claiming that if damages are awarded, he forgot to give her credit for the security deposit at her apartment, and if they are not awarded, the court should order him to give it back and pay the filing fee. [04:07] schestowitz[TR2] i used to write for datamation [04:07] schestowitz[TR2] 2007/2008 [04:07] schestowitz[TR2] they kept removing my text that was critical of microsoft [04:07] schestowitz[TR2] with excuses [04:07] schestowitz[TR2] like, cannot prove etc. [04:07] schestowitz[TR2] even when you can prove it [04:07] schestowitz[TR2] verifiable [04:08] schestowitz[TR2] turned out, msft was an advertiser [04:08] schestowitz[TR2] so microsoft in effect bribes publishers for bias [04:08] schestowitz[TR2] for self-censorship [04:08] schestowitz[TR2] like famous criminal bill gates does all the time [04:08] schestowitz[TR2] even paidsirius [04:08] schestowitz[TR2] UNDER NDA! [04:08] schestowitz[TR2] we still try to decipher what that was all about [04:08] *Guest2581 (sid393220@freenode-sbc.p48.gtmbaa.IP) has joined #techrights [04:08] *ohama (~ohama@freenode-0df.kav.vc6dkt.IP) has joined #techrights [04:08] *rowbee (~augh@freenode-6n0.an1.6o3glj.IP) has joined #techrights [04:08] *mekkis (~mekkis@freenode-ej1.p09.41uflq.IP) has joined #techrights [04:08] *sbp (~sbp@freenode-1m86vc.cfhm.haf7.0u8u7u.IP) has joined #techrights [04:08] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@freenode/user/Noisytoot) has joined #techrights [04:08] *lightbringer (mincer@freenode/user/lightbringer) has joined #techrights [04:08] *cybrNaut (~cybrNaut@freenode-tto.k1n.ssv8hv.IP) has joined #techrights [04:08] schestowitz[TR2] but been years and under secrecy... so maybe we'll never know [04:08] DaemonFC I also argue that this lawsuit is in the incorrect venue even if it complies with Trial Rule 5 because the defendant and plaintiff both agree that she left the apartment on October 29th and the landlord was in possession of the keys the next day, so it should not be filed as an eviction by the landlord's own admission. [04:09] DaemonFC Then there's a big counterclaim for "What about where all my stuff went?". [04:09] DaemonFC This guy's head is going to spin when I'm finished with him. [04:09] AdmFubar I bet it will be crypto backed too!!! or is it creepo?? https://www.news.com.au/technology/online/social/elon-musk-wants-to-turn-twitter-into-a-payment-app-to-rival-paypal/news-story/2f67d863fcebbc4f63fb1fa195e7c182 [04:09] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.news.com.au/technology/online/social/elon-musk-wants-to-turn-twitter-into-a-payment-app-to-rival-paypal/news-story/2f67d863fcebbc4f63fb1fa195e7c182 ) [04:09] *mekkis has quit (*.net *.split) [04:09] *rowbee has quit (*.net *.split) [04:09] *ohama has quit (*.net *.split) [04:09] *Noisytoot has quit (*.net *.split) [04:09] *Guest2581 has quit (*.net *.split) [04:09] *lightbringer has quit (*.net *.split) [04:09] *cybrNaut has quit (*.net *.split) [04:09] *sbp has quit (*.net *.split) [04:10] TR News Techrights Bulletin for Saturday, February 04, 2023 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives [04:10] TR Bot Bulletin Archives [04:10] TR News Techrights full IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt [04:10] TR Bot Techrights Full IPFS Index [04:11] *Guest2581 (sid393220@freenode-sbc.p48.gtmbaa.IP) has joined #techrights [04:11] *ohama (~ohama@freenode-0df.kav.vc6dkt.IP) has joined #techrights [04:11] *rowbee (~augh@freenode-6n0.an1.6o3glj.IP) has joined #techrights [04:11] *mekkis (~mekkis@freenode-ej1.p09.41uflq.IP) has joined #techrights [04:11] *sbp (~sbp@freenode-1m86vc.cfhm.haf7.0u8u7u.IP) has joined #techrights [04:11] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@freenode/user/Noisytoot) has joined #techrights [04:11] *lightbringer (mincer@freenode/user/lightbringer) has joined #techrights [04:11] *cybrNaut (~cybrNaut@freenode-tto.k1n.ssv8hv.IP) has joined #techrights [04:11] schestowitz[TR2] AdmFubar: too late [04:11] schestowitz[TR2] and... [04:11] schestowitz[TR2] remember andrew lee? [04:11] schestowitz[TR2] with his freenode plan [04:11] schestowitz[TR2] to give "crypto" to users? [04:11] schestowitz[TR2] musk turns away users [04:11] schestowitz[TR2] and by the time he does his "next step" there won't be much left [04:11] schestowitz[TR2] the media will also ridicule him, as it's among the casualties [04:12] schestowitz[TR2] many publishers invested in twitter presence [04:12] *mekkis has quit (*.net *.split) [04:12] *rowbee has quit (*.net *.split) [04:12] *ohama has quit (*.net *.split) [04:12] *Noisytoot has quit (*.net *.split) [04:12] *Guest2581 has quit (*.net *.split) [04:12] *lightbringer has quit (*.net *.split) [04:12] *cybrNaut has quit (*.net *.split) [04:12] *sbp has quit (*.net *.split) [04:12] schestowitz[TR2] even bought fake "followers" [04:13] mjg59_ DaemonFC: Literally no part of my immigration status was based on my income? 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[04:30] AdmFubar time to cuddle the with a kitty. she is jumping on my lap repeatedly. laters all [04:34] schestowitz[TR2] 0/ [04:37] schestowitz[TR2] wow, turns out the phones we got throown in 'for free' retail at 60 pounds each https://www.amazon.co.uk/Essential-Digital-Phone-Calling-Works/dp/B08MZ383CG [04:37] TR Bot Essential Digital Home Phone with HD Calling, Works Only With BT Smart Hub 2: Amazon.co.uk: Electronics & Photo [04:37] schestowitz[TR2] https://www.bt.com/help/user-guides/phones/digital-voice/essential-digital-home-phone [04:37] TR Bot Essential Digital Home Phone | BT Help [04:37] schestowitz[TR2] they also do alarm with snooze [04:38] schestowitz[TR2] I started using that [04:41] *immibis_ has quit (connection closed) [04:42] *immibis_ (~immibis@b7zwz8tn5nzkn.irc) has joined #techrights [04:47] mjg59_ schestowitz[TR2]: I don't believe I'm being racist, but there could well be something I missed [04:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [04:59] DaemonFC mjg59_, Doesn't need to burn down the Walmart to get a TV. [04:59] DaemonFC mjg59_ can afford all the TVs he'll ever want. [04:59] DaemonFC How could mjg59_ possibly be racist? [04:59] DaemonFC Be nice to mjg59_ ● Feb 05 [05:01] DaemonFC Sleep on the couch in mjg59_'s $3 million house. [05:02] DaemonFC Ahh, classic G&N, from when they were decent. [05:02] DaemonFC Someone went to federal prison for six months for releasing Chinese Democracy. Trouble is, it wasn't them. [05:02] schestowitz[TR2] hmm.. seems that some very old song collection of mine suffer bit flipping [05:02] schestowitz[TR2] I put them on 3 separate physical drives [05:02] schestowitz[TR2] but who the heck knows how to merge what [05:03] schestowitz[TR2] raid has another issue [05:03] schestowitz[TR2] all copies in pnh physical device [05:03] schestowitz[TR2] *one [05:03] schestowitz[TR2] overly complex file systems bring their own issues [05:04] schestowitz[TR2] and who knows if any OS will support them in 20 years [05:04] DaemonFC Err, G&R [05:04] schestowitz[TR2] we still cannot make drives that last as long as backup tapes [05:04] DaemonFC That was the worst album ever. [05:04] schestowitz[TR2] but hey [05:04] schestowitz[TR2] we have "APPS!!!" [05:04] DaemonFC I think they just released it to send someone to prison. [05:05] DaemonFC They were doing bad on the copyright lawsuits, and they tried to send this guy to prison for leaking it early and the court was skeptical the album would ever be released because it was stuck in development Hell for 30 years. [05:05] DaemonFC So they Duke Nukem Forever'd it. [05:06] TR News North Korean YouTubers? https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/04/asia/north-korea-youtuber-yumi-intl-hnk-dst/index.html [05:06] TR Bot Korea is trying a new propaganda strategy: YouTube influencers | CNN [05:07] TR News "New Hampshire approached minus 110 degree" https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/04/nyregion/cold-weather-wind-chill-northeast.html [05:07] TR Bot At Least 1 Dead After Frigid Cold and Wind Chills Batter Northeast U.S. - The New York Times [05:07] schestowitz[TR2] only -110? [05:09] TR News Netflix accidentally revealed its blueprint to stop password sharing https://qz.com/netflix-stop-password-sharing-rules-1850069366 [05:09] TR Bot How is Netflix going to stop password sharing? [05:09] DaemonFC Must be that heatwave from global warming. [05:09] DaemonFC California's ongoing excuse for being too stupid and corrupt to manage water. [05:09] DaemonFC Hi mjg59_ ! [05:11] TR News Astronomers Studied More Than 5,000 Black Holes to Figure Out Why They Twinkle https://www.sciencealert.com/astronomers-studied-more-than-5000-black-holes-to-figure-out-why-they-twinkle [05:12] TR Bot Studied More Than 5,000 Black Holes to Figure Out Why They Twinkle : ScienceAlert [05:16] DaemonFC https://techcrunch.com/2023/02/03/google-best-yet-to-come-ai-journey-faces-potential-disruption-openai-chatgpt/ [05:16] TR Bot tries to reassure investors on AI progress as ChatGPT breathes down its neck TechCrunch [05:17] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR2], Google will probably make something that works better than ChatGPT. [05:17] DaemonFC OpenAI admits that they dumped GPT-3.5 out to say they had something. [05:18] DaemonFC If Google starts dumping money in it, it'll probably eventually mostly work right. Microsoft is buying a $10 billion dollar turd that was started by Elon Musk and a few others. [05:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-04.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-05.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [05:24] schestowitz[TR2] Gulag is just catching up with PR spam [05:24] schestowitz[TR2] Gulag doesn't need this [05:25] schestowitz[TR2] nor does baidui [05:25] schestowitz[TR2] it's microsoft using media moles [05:25] schestowitz[TR2] to claim something about "being ahead" [05:25] schestowitz[TR2] and Gulag could just say, "it is garbage" [05:25] schestowitz[TR2] TechCrunch is posting spam for microsoft [05:25] schestowitz[TR2] it's not like "ChatGPT breathes down its neck" [05:25] schestowitz[TR2] it's a loaded headline [05:25] schestowitz[TR2] a [05:25] DaemonFC Microsoft's wasting money buying something that won't help it. [05:25] schestowitz[TR2] and BS [05:25] DaemonFC A lot of money! [05:26] schestowitz[TR2] they fired lots of bing workers [05:26] schestowitz[TR2] bing would die [05:26] DaemonFC They _claim_ they have $100 billion in cash equivalent, so $10 billion would be 10% of this. [05:26] schestowitz[TR2] they have one more go at it [05:26] schestowitz[TR2] losing money [05:26] schestowitz[TR2] DDG is falling [05:26] DaemonFC For something they'll be hard pressed to fix and/or monetize. [05:26] schestowitz[TR2] perople realise it's not privacuy [05:26] schestowitz[TR2] so that plan failed [05:26] DaemonFC So they'll never break even on ChatGPT. [05:26] schestowitz[TR2] Gabe admitted he had signed an NDA with Microsoft [05:26] schestowitz[TR2] and that he lets Microsoft controlm DDG [05:26] DaemonFC In reality they probably have less cash. [05:26] *Now talking on #techrights [05:26] DaemonFC So $10 billion makes this an even bigger WTF. [05:26] schestowitz[TR2] who wrote that TechCrunch BS? [05:27] DaemonFC Is someone going crazy in there? [05:27] schestowitz[TR2] the former Microsoft staffg, Microsoft Zaqck? [05:27] schestowitz[TR2] Aisha Malik [05:27] DaemonFC Even mjg59_ talked about ChatGPT being full of authoritative-sounding incorrect errors. [05:27] schestowitz[TR2] never heard that name [05:27] *sbp (~sbp@freenode-1m86vc.cfhm.haf7.0u8u7u.IP) has joined #techrights [05:27] schestowitz[TR2] maybe garden variety microsoft spammer [05:27] DaemonFC Led him down a rabbit hole and wasted his time. [05:27] schestowitz[TR2] i saw similar spam in engadget yesterday [05:28] schestowitz[TR2] all this "OH NO@ GOOGLE IS BEHIND!!" [05:28] DaemonFC They're really not. [05:28] *Adran (~adran@freenode-tf0oar.j78q.vhn8.esuooj.IP) has joined #techrights [05:28] DaemonFC Microsoft can't even make a general purpose search engine that works well. [05:28] DaemonFC ChatGPT won't improve that. [05:28] schestowitz[TR2] bing is dead/dying [05:28] schestowitz[TR2] no prospects [05:28] schestowitz[TR2] no gains [05:28] schestowitz[TR2] staff now LAID opff [05:28] schestowitz[TR2] they need SOMETHING [05:28] schestowitz[TR2] to share investors [05:28] schestowitz[TR2] azure = MORE layoffs [05:28] schestowitz[TR2] their clown story is failing [05:28] schestowitz[TR2] no clown [05:28] schestowitz[TR2] even the rival admit clown is cooling down [05:29] schestowitz[TR2] not much interest [05:29] DaemonFC After nearly a decade of Microsoft monetizing child pornography by having Bing return tons of it next to their ads. [05:29] schestowitz[TR2] companies got tired overpayting for a >VPS [05:29] DaemonFC They only stopped it because it was starting to be reported. [05:29] schestowitz[TR2] and now Gates runs some charm offensive with media he bribes [05:29] schestowitz[TR2] that might not end well [05:29] *lightbringer (~mincer@freenode/user/lightbringer) has joined #techrights [05:29] schestowitz[TR2] as people bring up again what he REALLY is [05:29] DaemonFC Then they got off by saying "oops" and just kept all of the profits. [05:29] schestowitz[TR2] he might be better eoff vanishing [05:29] schestowitz[TR2] until he is dead [05:30] schestowitz[TR2] showing himself in public risks arrest [05:30] schestowitz[TR2] OJ Simpson vanished [05:30] schestowitz[TR2] no interest in public visibility/high profile [05:30] *hvxgr (~wl2v_usrn@freenode-ong.pov.c33bnd.IP) has joined #techrights [05:30] DaemonFC Yeah, well, he lost the wrongful death lawsuit, so there went his money. [05:31] schestowitz[TR2] so I checked 4 different copies i have of the same mp4 [05:31] schestowitz[TR2] mp3 [05:31] DaemonFC He wrote a whole book where he basically confessed to the murder to pay off the lawsuit. [05:31] schestowitz[TR2] on three physical drives [05:31] schestowitz[TR2] all the same hash/checksum [05:31] DaemonFC Then he got arrested again. [05:31] schestowitz[TR2] so maybe the data loss goes a long way back [05:31] schestowitz[TR2] 10+ years [05:31] schestowitz[TR2] 3 drives, 4 copies [05:31] DaemonFC You'd think after winning a murder trial after leaving evidence all over the fucking place, you'd lay low. [05:31] schestowitz[TR2] same defected file [05:31] schestowitz[TR2] defective [05:31] *Guest2581 (sid393220@freenode-sbc.p48.gtmbaa.IP) has joined #techrights [05:32] schestowitz[TR2] DaemonFC: didn't know it happened [05:32] schestowitz[TR2] like roy keane admitting he aimed for haaland's knee [05:32] schestowitz[TR2] to break it, for revenge [05:32] schestowitz[TR2] admitted this in his book [05:32] schestowitz[TR2] got fined [05:33] *XFaCE has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [05:33] DaemonFC I couldn't defeat what I was facing, so I negotiated the hell out of my surrender and went back and covered it up later. [05:33] DaemonFC That's the next best thing. [05:33] schestowitz[TR2] billie can do more "environment" books [05:33] schestowitz[TR2] but staying in the public eye can be risky for him [05:33] schestowitz[TR2] who knows what mazwell knows [05:33] schestowitz[TR2] his bill's mom, also a maxwell [05:34] DaemonFC Gulagtroll thought you had to be convicted to face punishment. [05:34] schestowitz[TR2] hopefully some victims of epstein spill some beans again [05:34] schestowitz[TR2] as they mature and decide to approach the media [05:34] DaemonFC Guess you don't learn anything unless you go through the house of horrors, huh? [05:34] DaemonFC There's a lot of reasons people re-offend. [05:34] DaemonFC One of them can be if they don't get punished enough. [05:35] DaemonFC Courts scare people more when they don't know what to expect. [05:35] *XFaCE (~XFaCE@uzfeivw9fp6ba.irc) has joined #techrights [05:35] DaemonFC It's like going through a haunted house and then the next time it's not as scary. [05:36] *ohama (ohama@freenode-0df.kav.vc6dkt.IP) has joined #techrights [05:36] DaemonFC That's one reason why landlords don't like to rent to people with evictions on their record. They know the last guy had trouble with them and that's all they want to know. [05:37] schestowitz[TR2] :o really not f**ing happy [05:37] DaemonFC But what most people don't know is there's usually ways to prevent an eviction even if you screwed the landlord, or stop them from reporting it, or paying him off and then expunging the eviction. [05:37] schestowitz[TR2] old files corrupted [05:37] schestowitz[TR2] and all copies of them [05:37] schestowitz[TR2] across drives [05:37] schestowitz[TR2] musy have happened a long time ago [05:37] schestowitz[TR2] *must [05:37] schestowitz[TR2] 10+ years [05:37] DaemonFC If a court can make a mess for you, it can clean up a mess too. [05:37] DaemonFC There are rules. [05:38] schestowitz[TR2] Music/volV/Bebel%20Gilberto%20- %20Mais%20Feliz.mp3: [05:38] schestowitz[TR2] Error reading metadata [05:38] schestowitz[TR2] nothing I can do now [05:39] schestowitz[TR2] perhaps we should tidy up tr-new at some point in late summer [05:39] *lightbringer has quit (*.net *.split) [05:39] *Adran has quit (*.net *.split) [05:39] *sbp has quit (*.net *.split) [05:39] *web-60 has quit (*.net *.split) [05:39] schestowitz[TR2] andd finish the migration [05:39] schestowitz[TR2] we've not even finished tudxmachines yet (tuxgallery+drupal) [05:39] schestowitz[TR2] but it is progressing surely [05:40] schestowitz[TR2] 20 years of archives almost [05:40] schestowitz[TR2] patience needed [05:40] schestowitz[TR2] when dealing with info this old [05:40] schestowitz[TR2] turns out, when you look for info of novell you are likely to end up in boycottnovell rabbit hole [05:40] schestowitz[TR2] many of the old "news" sites vanished [05:40] schestowitz[TR2] novell.com redirects [05:40] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [05:40] *rowbee has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [05:40] *jkl has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [05:40] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [05:40] *Guest2581 has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [05:40] *Disconnected (Remote host closed socket). [05:41] schestowitz[TR2] what a difference 15 years make on the www [05:41] schestowitz[TR2] after fibre we need get many backups of sites, tenton (rianne's laptop), more to be done later [05:41] schestowitz[TR2] Ill back up her machine tomorrow night [05:42] *XFaCE has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [05:44] *XFaCE (~XFaCE@uzfeivw9fp6ba.irc) has joined #techrights [05:44] schestowitz[TR2] btw: [05:44] schestowitz[TR2] if they do replace bing.com [05:44] schestowitz[TR2] with shitGPT [05:44] schestowitz[TR2] that'll mean more lost investment [05:45] schestowitz[TR2] all that indexing they did [05:45] schestowitz[TR2] of pages [05:45] schestowitz[TR2] for 15+ years [05:45] schestowitz[TR2] +MSN [05:45] schestowitz[TR2] the training of shitGPT does not work the same way [05:45] schestowitz[TR2] so then they lose bing.com too [05:45] schestowitz[TR2] and how do ads fit in? [05:45] schestowitz[TR2] shitGPT with ads on the side [05:45] schestowitz[TR2] ? [05:45] schestowitz[TR2] how to even "monetise" this thing [05:46] schestowitz[TR2] they waste billions of media spam [05:46] schestowitz[TR2] fake hype, emperor is beatiful [05:46] schestowitz[TR2] and now they want to start charging $20 per month for use [05:46] schestowitz[TR2] it doesn't even work well [05:46] schestowitz[TR2] nobody will pay [05:46] schestowitz[TR2] so shitGPT has no viable business model [05:46] schestowitz[TR2] a bunch of unused azure servers crashing [05:47] schestowitz[TR2] and taking up increasingly more expensive electricity [05:47] schestowitz[TR2] to pspew out garbage [05:47] schestowitz[TR2] and not improve the model [05:47] DaemonFC I've used ChatGPT to draw up some motions that Haley can file in court in response to her landlord's lawsuit. [05:47] DaemonFC We're going for a Motion to Dismiss for Improper Service. [05:48] DaemonFC And then if we need it, I have another Motion to Dismiss due to Abandonment. [05:48] DaemonFC Which would get the lawsuit thrown out as moot. [05:48] DaemonFC He's going to have to refile his lawsuit at least two more times and eat $600 that he doesn't get back because of me, so he can try suing her for $800. [05:51] DaemonFC I'm going to put this guy through a lot of trouble to not get anything. [05:56] TR News (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/05/Android_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/05/Android_Leftovers.gmi [05:56] TR Bot Tux Machines Android Leftovers [05:57] schestowitz[TR2] saying you can get legal advice from shitGPT is beyond dumb [05:57] schestowitz[TR2] you would be well off searching EVEN BING [05:57] schestowitz[TR2] for a site of some law firm [05:57] schestowitz[TR2] or state legal advice [05:57] schestowitz[TR2] and read that [05:57] schestowitz[TR2] it's formal [05:57] schestowitz[TR2] and not "IANAL" [05:57] schestowitz[TR2] shitGPT is worse than IANAL [05:57] schestowitz[TR2] it's not even a human [05:57] schestowitz[TR2] it's elizabot GIGO [05:58] *ryjen- has quit (Quit: ZNC - https://znc.in) [05:59] schestowitz[TR2] DaemonFC: https://kentwired.com/91210/world-nation/cancer-is-striking-more-people-in-their-30s-and-40s-heres-what-you-need-to-know/ [05:59] TR Bot Cancer is striking more people in their 30s and 40s. 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[06:02] TR News The future belongs to people and nations that actually PRODUCE things, not just CONSUME stuff [06:11] schestowitz[TR2] stop costing microsoft money [06:11] schestowitz[TR2] you crash their servers [06:11] schestowitz[TR2] microsoft will blamne "iran" [06:11] schestowitz[TR2] "irnyan [06:12] TR News Rs 9.5 Cr of Taxpayer Money Spent on Commission, Printing of Electoral Bonds https://neritam.wordpress.com/2023/02/03/rs-9-5-cr-of-taxpayer-money-spent-on-commission-printing-of-electoral-bonds/ [06:12] TR Bot Rs 9.5 Cr of Taxpayer Money Spent on Commission, Printing of Electoral Bonds neritam [06:12] TR News The curious case of FTX VIPs https://nypost.com/2023/02/04/the-curious-case-of-ftx-vips/ [06:12] TR Bot The curious case of FTX VIPs [06:18] *ryjen- has quit (Quit: ZNC - https://znc.in) [06:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. 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[10:11] schestowitz[TR2] marketing [10:11] schestowitz[TR2] tons of bing layofffs [10:11] schestowitz[TR2] spend not on imnproving it [10:11] schestowitz[TR2] but spamming the media for 1-2 months [10:12] schestowitz[TR2] HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI [10:12] *web-6042 (~web-60@freenode-er0.s48.g1iorc.IP) has joined #techrights [10:14] *web-60 (~web-60@freenode-er0.s48.g1iorc.IP) has joined #techrights [10:18] *web-6042 has quit (Ping timeout: 90 seconds) [10:18] *web-60 has quit (Ping timeout: 90 seconds) [10:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-04.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-05.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [10:21] *web-60 (~web-60@freenode-svn.ep0.sb1sci.IP) has joined #techrights [10:22] *web-6042 (~web-60@freenode-svn.ep0.sb1sci.IP) has joined #techrights [10:22] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:23] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@cbcfptirpkfqa.irc) has joined #techrights [10:24] schestowitz[TR2] you also KNOW the above is NOT a leak [10:24] schestowitz[TR2] I saw it "reported" as just 'news' like 4 or 3 days ago [10:24] schestowitz[TR2] it didn't say "leak" [10:24] schestowitz[TR2] "leak" is just hype phrase [10:25] schestowitz[TR2] like in august 2021 microsoft claims vista 11 builds were "leaked" [10:25] schestowitz[TR2] it was clearm they were not [10:25] schestowitz[TR2] they distracted from the collapse of gates foundation at the time and scandals of leaked material about microsoft lobbying against rivel [10:25] schestowitz[TR2] that was leaked to american politicians [10:26] schestowitz[TR2] they started googlebombing the news with the fake "leak" [10:26] *GNUmoon2 has quit (connection closed) [10:27] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@enapcbbwqfn6y.irc) has joined #techrights [10:28] psydruid vista 10 is on life support and vista 11 is stillborn [10:28] psydruid so what to do? [10:28] schestowitz[TR2] actually [10:28] psydruid let's leak some saucy stuff [10:28] schestowitz[TR2] they cause themselves trouble [10:28] schestowitz[TR2] so desperate to change the topic of the news [10:29] schestowitz[TR2] they declared "vista 11" [10:29] schestowitz[TR2] 'leaks' out, themselves, some shitty built [10:29] schestowitz[TR2] of something that did not work [10:29] schestowitz[TR2] and had loads of bug even when 'finalised' in october [10:29] schestowitz[TR2] of course nobody adoptedd it [10:29] schestowitz[TR2] except OEMs [10:29] schestowitz[TR2] but nwo PC sales aare weak [10:29] schestowitz[TR2] so Vista11 market share was estimated at 2.6% months ago [10:29] schestowitz[TR2] they started faking it [10:30] schestowitz[TR2] and now they have to maintain several versions [10:30] schestowitz[TR2] of the same thing [10:30] schestowitz[TR2] slight GUI changes [10:31] TR News 20 Basic Linux Commands for the Beginners (Recommended) https://tecadmin.net/basic-linux-commands/ [10:31] TR Bot 20 Basic Linux Commands for the Beginners (Recommended) [10:32] psydruid vista 11 still isn't stable in virtualbox [10:32] psydruid and on real hardware, I suppose [10:32] schestowitz[TR2] it might never be [10:32] schestowitz[TR2] the service pack for it will be called vista 12 [10:33] psydruid so they have a real problem on their hands convincing people to upgrade/downgrade [10:33] schestowitz[TR2] vista 11=vista 10 service pack 1 [10:33] schestowitz[TR2] why 'upgrade'? [10:33] *lightbringer (mincer@freenode/user/lightbringer) has joined #techrights [10:33] schestowitz[TR2] TPM restrictions? [10:33] schestowitz[TR2] they wanted to use the OEMs and idiots like gulagboy to impose lockdown [10:33] schestowitz[TR2] making it hard to do anything on the PC [10:34] psydruid the old version being abandoned as usual [10:34] schestowitz[TR2] thankfully sales have frozen [10:34] schestowitz[TR2] so distributing crippled new machines is hard [10:34] psydruid they already did that 20 years ago [10:36] TR News Kushal Das: Using YubiKeys for your linux system https://kushaldas.in/posts/using-yubikeys-for-your-linux-system.html [10:36] TR Bot Using YubiKeys for your linux system [10:36] psydruid they also cripple older versions to force people to 'upgrade' [10:37] schestowitz[TR2] capitalism [10:37] mjg59_ TPms don't impose lockdown [10:38] schestowitz[TR2] "we make products intentionally worse" [10:38] schestowitz[TR2] and it's ok because, "profit!" [10:38] mjg59_ Really unsure why I have to keep explaining this [10:38] schestowitz[TR2] brothels don't impose sex [10:38] schestowitz[TR2] it's "conssensual" [10:39] schestowitz[TR2] you can pay $100 an hour to chat only [10:43] mjg59_ Can you please describe, in a technical manner, how you envisage TPMs being used to enforce locking down of general purpose computers [10:43] bagira I can vouch that TPM by design can force OS product locking [10:44] mjg59_ No you can't [10:44] mjg59_ I mean you could say that, but it'd be wrong [10:44] mjg59_ If you disagree, please provide a complete technical description of how it could [10:45] techuser And people pay? If they have no other people to chat with, why wouldn't they chat on IRC instead? [10:45] bagira I mean, if you're talking about the trojan horse that it is today, no, but, that's exactly what it will do eventually. [10:45] mjg59_ Again, asking how [10:45] psydruid Let's kick TPM like a puppy [10:45] bagira Nah, you don't ask question to learn, you ask questions as openings to respond. [10:46] schestowitz[TR2] monopoly goon gulagboy [10:46] schestowitz[TR2] still at it [10:46] schestowitz[TR2] he'll never learn [10:46] mjg59_ Dude I'm literally one of the leading experts in this field [10:46] schestowitz[TR2] made a career by bottom feeding [10:46] psydruid Microgulag expert [10:46] schestowitz[TR2] mjg59_: lol [10:46] schestowitz[TR2] you are not [10:46] mjg59_ I ask because I believe that you're wrong [10:46] schestowitz[TR2] you are a charlatan [10:46] schestowitz[TR2] you are a fraud [10:46] bagira Granted, the more I learn about this phenomena the more obvious it is that these systems are not designed by their creators in those ways but selected by their sponsors for those inevitable utilities to their interests [10:46] schestowitz[TR2] you are a pretender [10:46] mjg59_ And I'd like you to prove that you're correct [10:46] schestowitz[TR2] and lousy one at that [10:47] schestowitz[TR2] brown-nosing evil people to pretend you are "Security expert" [10:47] mjg59_ Which should be an easy thing for you to do, given you can vouch for it [10:47] schestowitz[TR2] while barbwiring your homke with smartshit [10:47] mjg59_ schestowitz[TR2]: Please describe how TPMs can be used to lock down a system against its user [10:47] schestowitz[TR2] FSF did videos about it [10:47] schestowitz[TR2] go watch some [10:47] mjg59_ Yeah, they were wrong [10:47] schestowitz[TR2] maybe you were busy back then saying "Transophobic shit" [10:47] schestowitz[TR2] \ [10:48] mjg59_ Go check out the current FSF position on TPMs [10:48] schestowitz[TR2] flunkigjn your first attempt at a phd [10:48] techuser mjg59_: a user is not able to control the device by design. It is user-hostile design first of all. [10:48] mjg59_ techuser: In what way? [10:48] techuser In a way of extracting the keys from it. [10:48] schestowitz[TR2] Techrights has a copy of the video and reposted it [10:48] schestowitz[TR2] like... 2007 [10:48] mjg59_ techuser: What keys? [10:49] techuser The keys used to encrypt things, e.g. BitLocker. [10:49] schestowitz[TR2] gul;agboy was still busy trying to get a phd after flunking [10:49] mjg59_ schestowitz[TR2]: Yeah that's not the current FSF position, because it was wrong [10:49] bagira >leading expert in field >developed secure boot >doesn't know how TPMs and secure boot work in tandem [10:49] schestowitz[TR2] and didn't even study CS [10:49] mjg59_ techuser: If you control the platform you can obtain those keys without any difficulty [10:49] schestowitz[TR2] like I said, brown-nosing evil people [10:49] techuser It by design makes the user not control the platform. [10:49] mjg59_ schestowitz[TR2]: Do people need to study CS to contribute to free software? [10:50] TR News Example of MICROSOFT SPAM infecting Linux-centric blogs, too https://www.cloudbooklet.com/5-surprising-facts-about-chatgpt-you-never-heard/ [10:50] TR Bot Surprising Facts about ChatGPT you Never Heard - Cloudbooklet [10:50] bagira mjg59_, yes, mostly [10:50] mjg59_ bagira: Plenty of free software you should probably stop using, then [10:50] bagira mjg59_, they dont need degrees but they do need a pretty wide understanding of various technologies [10:51] mjg59_ bagira: Oh hey I have a wide understanding of various technologies! [10:51] mjg59_ To the extent that I've been paid to work on several different areas of free software [10:51] bagira oh cool, you think you're me now [10:51] psydruid UEFI, TPM, Secure Boot, Pluton, Windows! [10:52] mjg59_ psydruid: Desktops apps, ACPI, various bits of kernel functionality? [10:52] mjg59_ Oh, a bunch of Openstack [10:52] mjg59_ That probably wasn't the best use of my time in hindsight [10:52] mjg59_ Ugh almost forgot about all the IPMI [10:52] psydruid mjg59_, good, I know what software to avoid now [10:52] mjg59_ Wish I could forget about all the IPMI [10:52] TR News Wow, it's getting worse. And FAST. CNET is like 80-90% SEO spam, product spam, and linkspam now. They even got caught using elizabot spam machine (plagiarism, too!) to quickly generate "content". See https://www.cnet.com/rss/all/ CENT is not as good as dead/offline. [10:53] mjg59_ bagira: Last year someone ran up to me and shouted CHRIS PUNCHES and I worried they thought I was you but it turned out that they just hated you and wanted to thank me [10:53] mjg59_ So pretty sure I don't think I'm you [10:53] bagira also you should stop conflating "a slightly less pedestrian knowledge base than the consumer" with "leading expert in the field" when we all know you would struggle greatly to pass a CISSP exam [10:54] bagira if people are thanking you for defaming someone then you've become leader of a pile of dog shit [10:54] mjg59_ Dude I literally teach OS security at UCB [10:54] TR News Depending on cutoff, criteria and threshold, one might say CNET is 60% spam, but certainly over 90% is possible. There is NO JOURNALISM THERE. AT ALL! They just hit commonly-searched phrases to sell things. They used the 'googlejuice' they earned in the 1990s to manipulate the Web for financial gain. They 'liquidate' the site/domain. [10:55] mjg59_ I don't think I need any additional qualifications here [10:55] bagira few personality disorders allow someone twist and contort to valorize their corruption of truth [10:55] bagira *allow someone to [10:55] schestowitz[TR2] Dude I literally teach OS security at UCB [10:55] techuser "Trusted Computing". The user is not trusted, the corporation is trusted. [10:55] schestowitz[TR2] based on lies [10:55] schestowitz[TR2] fraud [10:55] schestowitz[TR2] and false credentials [10:56] schestowitz[TR2] and they might know or find out [10:56] schestowitz[TR2] in your nasty letter from a lawyer you said [10:56] mjg59_ schestowitz[TR2]: Would you like the email address of the dean so you can send evidence of my lies, fraud and false credentials? [10:56] psydruid "how to con people into thinking you're a leading expert on CharlatanOS security" [10:56] schestowitz[TR2] that TR exposing you made it hard for you to find a job [10:56] schestowitz[TR2] now you work for a company that sells lies, fraud [10:56] schestowitz[TR2] and puts people's lives at risk [10:56] schestowitz[TR2] that's what you were able to find [10:56] schestowitz[TR2] or Microsoft [10:56] schestowitz[TR2] but they stopped hiring [10:56] mjg59_ I have literally never attempted to obtain a job at Microsoft [10:56] schestowitz[TR2] mjg59_: no, I'm not you [10:57] schestowitz[TR2] iI won't doxx you to the dean [10:57] schestowitz[TR2] that's what you likely did to rianne [10:57] schestowitz[TR2] becauyse you're a malicious microsoft crook [10:57] schestowitz[TR2] you try to make innocent people suffer [10:57] schestowitz[TR2] and you wanted to stab debian volunteeers [10:57] schestowitz[TR2] people who devoted their lives to ffrfee software [10:57] schestowitz[TR2] while you scooped up salaries from Gulagh [10:57] schestowitz[TR2] and worked for Microsoft [10:57] mjg59_ schestowitz[TR2]: You'll write an article falsely asserting that I attent free software conferences to engage in predatory sexual behaviour, but you won't email my dean to tell them I'm unqualified to do my job? [10:58] bagira yeah i mean, listen matthew, my only experience with you is dealing with your morally stunted ass after you lied about me publicly and then tried to shame me for being a DV survivor, so you'll have to overlook that everything you say has the tint of the same bullshit lies, especially after finding out that you have done it to many others, and not conflating the fact that your romantic partner and several colleagues have done the same to yet others [10:58] bagira in equally public manners. [10:58] schestowitz[TR2] biab [10:58] schestowitz[TR2] not talking to a-holes [10:58] schestowitz[TR2] and doxxers, allegedly [10:58] schestowitz[TR2] you're a terrible person [10:58] schestowitz[TR2] and you look like you won't live along anyway [10:58] schestowitz[TR2] *long [10:58] bagira schestowitz[TR2], who [10:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [10:59] mjg59_ bagira: I'm sorry, could you please describe when I attempted to shame you for being a DV survivor? [10:59] TR News Assemblyline as a Malware Analysis Sandbox, (Sat, Feb 4th) https://isc.sans.edu/diary/rss/29510 ● Feb 05 [11:00] TR Bot InfoSec Handlers Diary Blog - SANS Internet Storm Center [11:00] bagira mjg59_, every single time you've ever brought up the name Jerry Thibodeau comes to mind. I believe this channel's logs are public. [11:00] TR News "An opportunity of hearing was also provided, however, the platform neither complied by removing the blasphemous content nor appeared before the Authority." https://www.engadget.com/pakistan-blocks-wikipedia-sacrilegious-content-151427009.html [11:00] TR Bot blocks Wikipedia over 'sacrilegious' content | Engadget [11:01] bagira mjg59_, you did, you know you did, and I'm not going to argue with you about it because this is what you do. It's yet another instance of your inability to be accountable for your harmful behaviours. [11:01] mjg59_ bagira: That's me questioning why you removed your name from accusations against a third party, not me attempting to shame you for whatever may have happened to you [11:01] TR News Frauds get away with far too much https://www.engadget.com/elon-musk-tesla-shareholder-trial-verdict-232434731.html [11:01] TR Bot rules Elon Musk is not liable for shareholder losses after 'funding secured' tweets | Engadget [11:01] bagira Nah dude, your mask is already broken. [11:01] psydruid "I'm Microgulagboy and I go to conferences to FUKDEM" [11:01] mjg59_ bagira: You saying "I don't want my name associated with those accusations because it's traumatic" would have resolved that [11:01] mjg59_ bagira: And, hey, now I'm aware, I'm genuinely sorry if that's the case! I won't bring that up again. [11:02] bagira What was it, eh, "explaining my behaviour" [11:02] bagira it's not that you did it [11:02] psydruid "I'm sorry I have been found out. How can I make sure that I won't be found out next time?" [11:02] bagira it's that you got caught [11:02] mjg59_ bagira: I have no desire to force people to revisit trauma, and if that particular line of questioning triggered that I'm genuinely sorry [11:03] bagira this disorder is characterized by a lack of moral compass but they often have enough environmental awareness to nagivate social taboo that would damage their backing from power structures they bed for immunity for their other behaviours [11:04] bagira just usually not until after the fact and never in sufficient darkness [11:04] mjg59_ As a DV survivor myself, I have no interest in forcing people to disclose anything they don't feel comfortable disclosing in that respect [11:05] psydruid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15HTd4Um1m4 [11:05] TR Bot https://inv.bp.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=15HTd4Um1m4 [11:05] bagira i dont buy your shit as long as you have a post defaming me to 30k people up on your twitter account that gets google indexed with you knowing full well we work in the same industry [11:05] TR Bot timed out after 10000 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://inv.bp.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=15HTd4Um1m4 ) [11:05] TR News First time the United States decided to destroy rather than import something "MADE IN CHINA" https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20230205-beijing-threatens-to-respond-after-us-downing-of-chinese-spy-balloon [11:05] TR Bot Beijing threatens to 'respond' after US shoot downs Chinese spy balloon [11:05] bagira you're made out of garbage dude [11:06] mjg59_ bagira: Man could you please precisely describe the defamation that occurred, because I am still confused about this [11:06] schestowitz[TR2] til it seems like gulagboy was a bad boy who was severely beaten up by the parents? [11:06] bagira also knowing that even a little bit of introspection into who you were talking to would have easily found out that I'm someone who has dedicated their entire adult life to combatting defamation [11:06] schestowitz[TR2] might exp[lain a few thins [11:06] mjg59_ schestowitz[TR2]: No, actually no trauma around my parents in that respect [11:07] bagira schestowitz[TR2], usually NPD has /relational/ trauma with one of the parents not necessarily physical abuse (usually isn't actually) [11:07] mjg59_ schestowitz[TR2]: But an ex physically assaulted me on multiple occasions [11:07] schestowitz[TR2] maybe you acted badly [11:08] mjg59_ schestowitz[TR2]: [11:08] schestowitz[TR2] don't want to get involved [11:08] mjg59_ schestowitz[TR2]: You just got yourself involved [11:08] schestowitz[TR2] anyway, rianne is increasingly certain you doxed here to the employer [11:08] schestowitz[TR2] and you're a garbage person [11:08] bagira i have first hand experience that he is a garbage person with a garbage soul [11:08] psydruid he doesn't even deny doing it, he just goes silent [11:08] psydruid piece of shit person [11:08] schestowitz[TR2] yeah [11:08] mjg59_ I did not doxx rianne to her employer [11:08] schestowitz[TR2] he stalked me in all irc channels for our a year [11:09] mjg59_ There [11:09] schestowitz[TR2] preparing "dossiers" [11:09] mjg59_ Literal denial [11:09] schestowitz[TR2] and then attacked two people for microsoft [11:09] schestowitz[TR2] what bill gates and microsoft tried to do for years he had a go at [11:09] mjg59_ bagira: Point at the defamation [11:09] bagira schestowitz[TR2], which two people for microsoft? and do you have logs of the presentation of the dossiers? would like to document [11:09] mjg59_ psydruid: Do you agree that I deny doing that? [11:10] bagira mjg59_, the same defamation I approached you about in the very first conversation we ever had. [11:10] schestowitz[TR2] bagira: http://techrights.org/wiki/Sirius_Open_Source" [11:10] TR Bot Sirius Open Source - Techrights [11:10] schestowitz[TR2] gulagboy was fast to hop on it [11:10] schestowitz[TR2] likely contacted people [11:10] mjg59_ bagira: Could you describe how that alleged defmation was defamatory? [11:10] bagira mjg59_, you remember right, the one where I approached you politely and got an eyefull of your "quality character" [11:10] schestowitz[TR2] maybe buffy hel;ped him with tor [11:10] schestowitz[TR2] so it would be hard to prove it had come from him [11:10] psydruid mjg59_, it doesn't matter, we will make sure that people know what kind of person you are and how much damage you have done to the world of computing and to mankind itself [11:10] *GNUmoon2 has quit (connection closed) [11:11] mjg59_ psydruid: Man look I don't even know you and you apparently wish that I was dead [11:11] bagira mjg59_, yes, you misrepresented an act of parody as "identity theft" which casts the tint of criminality to a legal and ethical act [11:11] schestowitz[TR2] microsoft managers kept calling the CEO [11:11] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@d9gtug32f73sq.irc) has joined #techrights [11:11] psydruid and we will keeping so for the next few decades [11:11] schestowitz[TR2] Bill Gates bribed [11:11] mjg59_ psydruid: can you please consider that you might have misintperted aspects of what I've said [11:11] schestowitz[TR2] that didn't get rid of us [11:11] schestowitz[TR2] didn't work [11:11] bagira mjg59_, it was crafted deliberately to that aim as well [11:11] schestowitz[TR2] maybe the doxxing was the last straw anyway, as the company was failing anyway [11:11] schestowitz[TR2] so I left already [11:11] schestowitz[TR2] but rianne wanted to stay [11:12] psydruid I agree that the world would be better off without you than with you, you are a net loss for the world [11:12] bagira mjg59_, there is no arguing about this other than the bizarre freakshow of watching a narcissist spin and twist on immutable and provable, citable reality [11:12] psydruid no, I know exactly who you are and what you stand for [11:12] psydruid it's the antithesis of everything I stand for [11:12] TR News Pakistans former military ruler Pervez Musharraf dies in Dubai https://www.france24.com/en/asia-pacific/20230205-pakistan-s-former-military-ruler-pervez-musharraf-dies-in-dubai [11:12] TR Bot Pakistans former military ruler Pervez Musharraf dies in Dubai [11:12] mjg59_ bagira: You adopted someone's identity. Given I'm just a random individual there's no universe in which an average observer would associate what I said with an assertion that you'd broken the law. [11:12] bagira Except all those people who did, mjg59_ [11:12] TR News Frances PM Borne offers to partially change pension reform for conservative backing https://www.france24.com/en/france/20230205-france-s-pm-borne-offers-to-partially-change-pension-reform-for-conservatices-backing [11:12] TR Bot Frances PM Borne offers to partially change pension reform for conservative backing [11:13] mjg59_ bagira: Can you name those people? [11:13] psydruid haha [11:14] mjg59_ psydruid: I stand for free software being an inclusive space that assists software in demolishing a range of existing social boundaries [11:14] psydruid "give me the list of people to target for free, please" [11:14] TR News Merge Sort Tree with point update using Policy Based Data Structure https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/merge-sort-tree-with-point-update-using-policy-based-data-structure/ [11:14] TR Bot Merge Sort Tree with point update using Policy Based Data Structure - GeeksforGeeks [11:14] psydruid mjg59_, you stand for nothing but your ego [11:14] *h4unt3d (~h4unt3d@fh97d4h4vsb32.irc) has joined #techrights [11:14] mjg59_ bagira: I mean, if you can name those people, it weakens any anti-SLAPP standing I have [11:14] bagira he is so preoccupied with "winning" his little interactions that he fails to maintain the illusion of having a moral compass and just doing the right things [11:14] mjg59_ Demonstration of actual harm is valuable there [11:15] psydruid it's learned behaviour [11:15] bagira i mean you guys see this right [11:15] bagira its textbook npd [11:15] psydruid of course [11:15] TR News Greenwasing Honda aims for 60,000 fuel cell sales by 2030 https://www.h2-view.com/story/honda-aims-for-60000-fuel-cell-sales-by-2030/ [11:15] TR Bot Honda aims for 60,000 fuel cell sales by 2030 [11:15] mjg59_ bagira: You've got the guy who has literally wished that I were dead on your side, so that's a good starting point [11:16] bagira the hilarious part is ive got enough experience dealing with people like that, that i can recognize when im being baited into giving him something to latch onto [11:16] psydruid he's practicing "fake it till you make it" to a tee [11:17] bagira mjg59_, i wont say i wish the same, i hope growth for all people, but if his wish came true i wouldn't exactly be pulling my hair out in grief [11:17] mjg59_ bagira: Look if you think I defamed you, sue me for it. You threatened to do so in the past and didn't. [11:17] bagira mjg59_, you and i both know there's only a year to do that in your jurisdiction [11:17] mjg59_ So you could have done it at the time and didn't? [11:18] TR News How to Install balenaEtcher on Fedora Linux https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-install-balenaetcher-on-fedora-linux/ [11:18] TR Bot to Install balenaEtcher on Fedora Linux - LinuxCapable [11:18] mjg59_ If you can't get a court to agree that I defamed you, is you accusing me of dematation itself defamtory? [11:19] bagira no but you should definitely challenge that [11:19] TR News How to Install WoeUSB on Ubuntu 22.04 or 20.04 https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-install-woeusb-on-ubuntu-linux/ [11:19] TR Bot to Install WoeUSB on Ubuntu 22.04 or 20.04 - LinuxCapable [11:19] psydruid I'm not worried about the nobody that is Microgulagboy [11:19] bagira likewise [11:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-04.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-05.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [11:20] psydruid I'm worried about undoing the damage he has caused the world [11:20] bagira his biggest threat to society is people listening to him [11:20] mjg59_ As far as I'm concerned, your little website thing is free speech [11:20] bagira wait why do you think where you are concerned is relevant input here [11:20] mjg59_ Literally nobody has ever asked me about it [11:21] mjg59_ I mean, I'm not going to sue you over it or anything [11:21] bagira you are a garbage person with a dog shit soul, nobody cares what you think [11:21] mjg59_ Because it's clearly just some random person's random rage against me [11:21] bagira only to your fan club [11:21] mjg59_ Man [11:21] mjg59_ My inbox disagrees [11:21] bagira your inbox doesn't mean a damned thing man [11:22] bagira to anyone [11:22] schestowitz[TR2] lol [11:22] mjg59_ It means something to the people who are trying to hire me [11:22] schestowitz[TR2] "i got x likes" [11:22] bagira yeah he thinks its some kind of popularity contest [11:22] mjg59_ And yeah they're not people I want to work for [11:22] bagira its SO BIZARRE how these people think man lol [11:22] schestowitz[TR2] sudan hunger got 10000000 FB likes [11:22] schestowitz[TR2] problem resolved [11:22] schestowitz[TR2] all will be fed 3 meals of likes per day [11:23] TR News Security economics course https://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/2023/02/04/security-economics-course/ [11:23] TR Bot Security economics course | Light Blue Touchpaper [11:23] mjg59_ schestowitz[TR2]: What evidence do you have that I doxxed Rianne? [11:23] TR News How to Install GIMP on Rocky Linux EL9 or EL8 https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-install-gimp-on-rocky-linux/ [11:23] TR Bot to Install GIMP on Rocky Linux EL9 or EL8 - LinuxCapable [11:23] schestowitz[TR2] her gut feeling based on your behavious before and after [11:23] schestowitz[TR2] she also thinks you look like a pedo [11:23] schestowitz[TR2] no comment from me [11:24] schestowitz[TR2] but you're not far off tbh [11:24] bagira anyway, great demonstration of the moral blocker, observe how he shifted from one thing to the next bearing no attempt to make ammends or admit wrongdoing [11:24] TR News How to Install OnlyOffice on Rocky Linux EL9 or EL8 https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-install-onlyoffice-on-rocky-linux/ [11:24] TR Bot to Install OnlyOffice on Rocky Linux EL9 or EL8 - LinuxCapable [11:24] mjg59_ schestowitz[TR2]: Ok, so no evidence. Would you accuse someone of doxxing without evidence? [11:25] bagira at the core of it is a belief of superiority to all other people below the conscious level, except when allowances are made for people with his specific views on public or social issues [11:25] schestowitz[TR2] she is usually right [11:25] schestowitz[TR2] based on woman'sa gut feeling [11:25] mjg59_ schestowitz[TR2]: But has no evidence? [11:25] schestowitz[TR2] almost always right about those things [11:25] schestowitz[TR2] maybe you used tor [11:25] schestowitz[TR2] with buffy's help [11:25] schestowitz[TR2] "they" like to doxx people [11:25] schestowitz[TR2] and to troll people [11:25] schestowitz[TR2] like RMS [11:26] mjg59_ schestowitz[TR2]: Just to be clear, you're asserting that your wife believes I doxed her based on no evidence? [11:26] schestowitz[TR2] for rejecting that one person is a plural [11:26] psydruid pers [11:26] bagira yeah its hilarious because when its innocents they don't like, it's perfectly fine to not just agree with it but to participate, but when it's part of a marginalized group like in the case of kiwi farms, they never fail to seize the opportunity to virtue signal [11:26] schestowitz[TR2] not per se [11:27] mjg59_ bagira: Man I think you overestimate how much I care about you. If you want to accuse me of defaming you, you can do that! But no court of law would agree, and nobody I care about cares about your opinion. [11:27] psydruid pers likes to doxx people with the help of another pers [11:27] bagira i mean, does anyone not contest that this guy saw freenoders not in the loop about why i was there piling on and then post his shit on twitter to do his part [11:27] schestowitz[TR2] sick stalker... doxxing [11:27] schestowitz[TR2] seems probable [11:28] schestowitz[TR2] already slapped us [11:28] bagira mjg59_, truth is not a popularity contest [11:28] schestowitz[TR2] desperate for "revenge" [11:28] schestowitz[TR2] and to silence me [11:28] bagira mjg59_, neither would I be concerned about the opinions of people who befriend dog shit [11:28] schestowitz[TR2] wants tpo stab volunteers [11:28] mjg59_ bagira: That's fine! But in the absence of any impact on my life, I literally don't care [11:28] schestowitz[TR2] flunked phd [11:29] schestowitz[TR2] lying about credentials [11:29] bagira mjg59_, yet here you are, trying to argue your way out of accountability [11:29] schestowitz[TR2] prevy [11:29] schestowitz[TR2] it adds up [11:29] bagira instead of [11:29] bagira what was that term? [11:29] bagira doing the right thing. [11:29] schestowitz[TR2] maybe childhood trauma compelled you to feel it's acceptable [11:29] bagira the base attribute of most people in almost all walks of life. [11:29] psydruid it's better for him to stab himself than to stab other innocent people [11:29] psydruid anyone with a working moral compass should realise that [11:30] psydruid one person or many people? [11:30] mjg59_ I do appreciate all this hate [11:30] psydruid it' s an easy choice [11:30] bagira psydruid, or at least be getting consistent therapy to address his chronic lying problem and inability to be responsible for his behaviours [11:30] psydruid I'm sure your microsoft friends appreciate it too [11:30] psydruid microgulag* [11:30] schestowitz[TR2] y'all should real profofessional and cliiinical lteratutre about sociopaths and psychopaths [11:31] schestowitz[TR2] what what drives them, other than insecurity [11:31] schestowitz[TR2] i met one once [11:31] bagira when someone realizes they have a problem like that they have a moral obligation to society to address that flaw in their character [11:31] mjg59_ Chris, man, the assertion that I have chronic lying problems to address requires you to point at lies [11:31] schestowitz[TR2] it was illuminating [11:31] schestowitz[TR2] he was mba student from india [11:31] schestowitz[TR2] total crazy head [11:31] schestowitz[TR2] insane [11:31] schestowitz[TR2] power-hungry [11:31] schestowitz[TR2] sociopathic to the extreme [11:31] schestowitz[TR2] sounds like marisol [11:32] schestowitz[TR2] the sister of law of daemonfc [11:32] schestowitz[TR2] they suffered some tramatic event [11:32] bagira mjg59_, that point's been covered ad neuseam. you simply burying your face in the sand like an emu doesn't obfuscate that it's been covered and doesn't necessitate that it be rehashed so you can argue about it to get out of being accountable for your damaging and malicious behaviours [11:32] schestowitz[TR2] and decided to "get even" by attacking iinnocent people all around them [11:32] schestowitz[TR2] no empathy [11:32] bagira exactly [11:32] mjg59_ Roy, hey, here's a proposition: we hang out, we have a conversation about TPMs or something, we record it, and we let the public conclude who's more reliable [11:32] schestowitz[TR2] som eof them lie their way into a top of a "hdge fund" or bank [11:32] schestowitz[TR2] and then do damage to entire nations [11:33] schestowitz[TR2] with no consieration [11:33] schestowitz[TR2] for the impact [11:33] *techuser has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:33] schestowitz[TR2] many become top politicians [11:33] schestowitz[TR2] and then ruin whole nations [11:33] schestowitz[TR2] for spite [11:33] schestowitz[TR2] see stalin [11:33] mjg59_ bagira: k [11:33] bagira if it were empathy it wouldn't be about digging around to bend word definitions to try to forge correctness out of a damaging lie, it would be about addressing the impact it had on the people he lied about [11:33] *web-609 has quit (Connection closed) [11:33] *web-60 has quit (Connection closed) [11:33] *web-6042 has quit (Connection closed) [11:33] schestowitz[TR2] or muskl [11:33] schestowitz[TR2] *musk [11:33] psydruid I would argue against hanging out with someone who wants to stab people, it might be a very dangerous thing to do [11:33] schestowitz[TR2] mjg59_: here is a better proposition: piss off. leave this network. live the little that's lef of your life. [11:34] bagira i mean he talked before about how critical failures of his personality might come out, that's really the big shining crack in the armor [11:34] *techuser (~techuser@a3xpmjae2sk3u.irc) has joined #techrights [11:34] bagira it's about what he's focused on [11:34] mjg59_ bagira: I feel like when we're talking about "defamation" it's not that we're digging into word definitions to forge correctness, it's that we're actually determining whether the described scenario was defamation [11:34] mjg59_ schestowitz[TR2]: Why are you unwilling to debate an opponent? [11:34] bagira mjg59_, nah, that's just you looking for a way to cast a false light where brighter lights are shining [11:34] schestowitz[TR2] i have better thing sto do than debating a psychopaths [11:35] schestowitz[TR2] whose own partner beat him up [11:35] schestowitz[TR2] maybe found you very obnoxious [11:35] schestowitz[TR2] maybe you cheated, who knows [11:35] schestowitz[TR2] would not surprise me [11:35] mjg59_ bagira: You saying "This is defamatory" when the law doesn't agree isn't casting a false light [11:35] mjg59_ schestowitz[TR2]: Are you asserting there are scenarios where it's justifiable to physically assault a partner? [11:36] bagira mjg59_, and you referring to the results of a test that was never performed is just more false light after you've been exposed already [11:36] mjg59_ schestowitz[TR2]: Is it ok to punch a woman if she cheated? [11:36] TR News Linux Around The World: USA New Jersey https://www.linuxlinks.com/linux-usa-new-jersey/ [11:36] TR Bot Around The World: USA - New Jersey - LinuxLinks [11:36] schestowitz[TR2] you are not a woman [11:36] psydruid is this becoming #sexrights again? [11:36] schestowitz[TR2] anyway, you can pretend to be oliter all you want [11:36] mjg59_ schestowitz[TR2]: True! That doesn't answer the question [11:36] schestowitz[TR2] you attack a lot of peeople [11:36] schestowitz[TR2] your fake manners fool nobody [11:37] bagira mjg59_, at some point you've got to realize that im better at dealing with that specific brand of bullshit than you are at forging it, and that you might get little conversational gotchas if you get me tired enough or wear me down but you are 15 years too late to the battlefield dude [11:37] schestowitz[TR2] they're a sociopathic strategy [11:37] mjg59_ schestowitz[TR2]: Is it ever ok to physically assault a partner? [11:37] mjg59_ bagira: You keep saying that and I keep not caring and it's been fine so far [11:37] bagira mjg59_, yet here you are, trying to pussyfoot your way into some kind of debate you've already repeatedly lost [11:38] bagira toi try to "reclaim" your moral failures without doing any of the things involved in doing that [11:38] TR News Cepelinai, a not so traditional staple of Lithuanian cuisine https://www.lrt.lt/en/news-in-english/19/1881834/cepelinai-a-not-so-traditional-staple-of-lithuanian-cuisine [11:38] TR Bot Cepelinai, a not so traditional staple of Lithuanian cuisine - LRT [11:38] mjg59_ schestowitz[TR2]: Would it be wrong for me to say "Roy Schestowtiz believes that being a bad person may justify physical emotional partner abuse"? [11:39] TR News "Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has faith in Australians to ignore misinformation about the Indigenous voice to parliament and instead support the proposal." https://michaelwest.com.au/pm-reveals-why-he-is-optimistic-for-referendum-success/ [11:39] TR Bot PM reveals why he is optimistic for referendum success - Michael West [11:40] *techuser has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:41] psydruid he's found fodder for his next Twitter shitpost [11:41] psydruid to placate his Microgulag friends [11:41] TR News Pervez Musharraf, Pakistani Martial Ruler In 9/11 Wars, Dies https://www.rferl.org/a/pakistan-musharraf-dies/32256221.html [11:41] TR Bot Pervez Musharraf, Pakistani Martial Ruler In 9/11 Wars, Dies [11:41] bagira no he doesn't want to bring attention to the place unless its context to the accusations levied against him [11:41] mjg59_ Yeah everyone who who supports people who support intimate partner abuse work for Microsoft or Google [11:42] bagira well, you did [11:42] mjg59_ That was obvious sarcasm? [11:42] bagira towards someone you previously defamed to 30k people too [11:42] schestowitz[TR2] he's found fodder for his next Twitter shitpost [11:42] schestowitz[TR2] he is irrelevant [11:42] schestowitz[TR2] he is what Torvalds dubbed "masturbating monkeys" [11:43] schestowitz[TR2] pretending to know about securityy [11:43] schestowitz[TR2] credentials: ZERO! [11:43] schestowitz[TR2] practice: ANTI-security [11:43] schestowitz[TR2] propped up by "deep state" agenda [11:43] bagira he knows a little more than the average consumer and is a an electronics and firmware tinkerer [11:43] schestowitz[TR2] so that they can calll "experts" the people who actively undermine real security [11:43] schestowitz[TR2] like buffy did [11:43] schestowitz[TR2] to the point where tor has a bunch of yahoos [11:44] psydruid he's a card-carrying member of the masturbating monkey foundation [11:44] schestowitz[TR2] and not much skills [11:44] mjg59_ At this rate Roy's going to drop dead at some point and the last line he posted in IRC is going to be talking about how awful I am and people are going to accuse me of mudering him [11:44] bagira i wont say he's totally clueless about security architecture [11:44] bagira i wouldn't call him an industry leader in terms of knowledge though, i know some of them, and they'd eat his nuts [11:44] schestowitz[TR2] projecting again... [11:44] schestowitz[TR2] come to troll IRC nnetwork [11:45] schestowitz[TR2] pretends to be victim [11:45] schestowitz[TR2] news at 9pm [11:45] mjg59_ bagira: Can you name someone with trusted computing awareness who would eat my nuts? [11:45] schestowitz[TR2] schestowitz[TR2]: Would it be wrong for me to say "Roy Schestowtiz believes that being a bad person may justify physical emotional partner abuse"? [11:46] schestowitz[TR2] would be wrong [11:46] schestowitz[TR2] and defamatory [11:46] schestowitz[TR2] http://techrights.org/2021/03/05/google-funded-trolls/ [11:46] TR Bot Professional Troll Matthew Garrett Spreads Libel, Defamation and Slander About the Free Software Community to Entertain Microsoft and Friends | Techrights [11:46] schestowitz[TR2] march 2021 [11:46] schestowitz[TR2] you keep defaming me [11:46] schestowitz[TR2] what likely happened is [11:46] bagira mjg59_, honestly most law enforcement forensics labs have a couple people that would [11:46] schestowitz[TR2] you couldn't keep your little one in your zipper [11:46] schestowitz[TR2] cheated oin your partner [11:46] *GNUmoon2 has quit (connection closed) [11:46] schestowitz[TR2] and got punched for it [11:46] schestowitz[TR2] if I follow this right [11:46] mjg59_ schestowitz[TR2]: Ok! So why did you respond to me saying that I was a victim of domestic violence with a series of reasons I may have deserved it? [11:47] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@6byxczt6txq2u.irc) has joined #techrights [11:47] schestowitz[TR2] i didn't justify punching [11:47] mjg59_ bagira: Yeah I'd agree that the FBI might, and the NSA might, but outside that I'd like names [11:47] bagira mjg59_, the same reason you described my exposure of DV as "explaining my behaviour" [11:47] schestowitz[TR2] just tried to see what horrible things you did to get punched [11:47] schestowitz[TR2] some people deserve a punch [11:47] schestowitz[TR2] not you [11:47] schestowitz[TR2] but people like activelow [11:47] schestowitz[TR2] i would not punch them [11:47] schestowitz[TR2] I hope some old lady with a handbag doses that [11:47] schestowitz[TR2] *does [11:48] *techuser (~techuser@ag8reaw4f8w8n.irc) has joined #techrights [11:48] bagira mjg59_, as long as you are hosting derogatory content about me on your twitter profile I will be insulating my network from you as it places you in an adversarial position. [11:48] mjg59_ bagira: But if you're going to assert that people are better than me at this, you should be able to name them [11:48] bagira Oh, I can name plenty, I just do not owe you the elaboration. [11:49] psydruid "do not hurt my ego, it's too fragile to handle not being the best at what I do" [11:49] mjg59_ k, asserts that there are people who would eat my nuts in terms of awareness of trusted computing, refuses to name them [11:49] psydruid distrusted* computing [11:49] bagira Hey listen, if you eat your nuts first, nobody can eat your nuts. [11:50] mjg59_ psydruid: Oh, there's no individual axis in which I'm the best at what I do - I generalise too much for that [11:50] psydruid I hope someone eats his nuts [11:50] TR News "Chinese chipmakers accelerate wafer fab equipment purchases." https://www.tomshardware.com/news/chinese-chipmakers-step-up-byuing-fab-equipment [11:50] TR Bot China Backdoors US Chip Sanctions, Buys Used Banned Equipment | Tom's Hardware [11:50] bagira Just as if you become humble, no one can humble you. [11:51] schestowitz[TR2] well put [11:51] mjg59_ bagira: Ok so you've refused to say what it would look like for your efforts to have a negative effect on me, what could I do to demonstrate that your efforts have no effect on me? [11:51] bagira mjg59_, I don't care about any of that [11:51] mjg59_ bagira: Is there a conference I could conceivably keynote that you could prevent? [11:51] bagira You've lost the plot. [11:52] psydruid FUKDEM is happening right now [11:52] TR News Killing off software patents, but way too slowly. Make them ALL illegal. https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2023/2/3/3000-awarded-for-ip-investment-entity-alto-dynamics-authentication-patents-prior-art [11:52] TR Bot $3,000 awarded for IP Investment entity, Alto Dynamics, authentication patents prior art Unified Patents [11:52] bagira We are not in a competition. [11:52] bagira You want that, I know. [11:52] bagira It's not going to happen. [11:52] mjg59_ bagira: Ok! So I'm just going to get on with life ignoring you? [11:53] mjg59_ And I'll have exactly the same life as if you didn't exist? [11:53] bagira I don't care what you do. [11:53] bagira You're already exposed. [11:53] bagira Your mask slipped. [11:53] mjg59_ Yeah, you've exposed me [11:53] mjg59_ By your standards [11:53] mjg59_ And nobody I care about acres [11:54] bagira And anyone who sees it and researches it will be benefited by truthful knowledge. [11:54] mjg59_ Sure, and that'll be ~0 people [11:54] bagira Yet, here you are. [11:54] mjg59_ I was here before you [11:54] mjg59_ So it's not down to you [11:54] bagira No you weren't. [11:54] mjg59_ When did you join this channel [11:55] bagira I was around since the mid-90s under various alts when it was on Freenode during the lilo era. [11:55] mjg59_ Yeah this is not a channel that existed in the mid-90s [11:55] bagira Perhaps you think people don't exist until you hear their name. [11:55] mjg59_ So that's an obvious lie [11:56] bagira It would certainly line up with your ability to dehumanize your image of someone without knowing the facts or anything about that person to justify your repeated defamation of peers and community members. [11:56] bagira Spanning for decades. [11:57] mjg59_ You were not a member of an IRC channel in the mid 90s when that IRC channel did not exist in the mid 90s [11:57] mjg59_ That's not an argument you can make! [11:57] bagira Ok bub [11:58] mjg59_ This channel was spun out of #boycottnovell which only appeared in the 2000s [11:58] bagira Ah, well, time blurs together. [11:58] mjg59_ This is a trivially disprovable claim [11:59] bagira In any case, you being here has nothing to do with how long you've been here and everything to do with much of what I've been highlighting about the little part of your brain that can't light up during a scan. [11:59] bagira Or the little rush of serotonin you get when you get attention for hurting someone in public. [11:59] mjg59_ Yeah dude you just suck and I'm going to bed [11:59] mjg59_ Anyone looking at the logs can compare what I said to the truth [11:59] bagira Yes, they can. [11:59] mjg59_ (spoiler: I win) [11:59] bagira Think about that while you're sleeping. ● Feb 05 [12:00] mjg59_ I did! And then I found I could fly, and I just did some amazing shit. [12:01] mjg59_ It's a lovely jump off point into lucid dreaming [12:01] bagira schestowitz[TR2], dude, I would seriously like to have talks about me underwriting you bringing in a psychologist to build a psychological profile for this guy to publish. [12:01] mjg59_ No reputable psychologist is going to write a profile based on IRC logs without talking to the individual in question [12:02] bagira schestowitz[TR2], like you have no idea how rare it is to get an NPD in a captured state like that [12:02] bagira In this case you can straight up tell him what you're doing and he'll go along with it because of the context, he'll see it as a new debate to win. [12:05] schestowitz[TR2] narcissist? [12:05] bagira yes [12:05] schestowitz[TR2] i don't know npd well [12:05] schestowitz[TR2] except eh acronym [12:05] schestowitz[TR2] daemonfc went on and on here, droning about it for a while 2 weeks ago [12:05] schestowitz[TR2] thinking he could remoately diagnose a relativer [12:05] bagira schestowitz[TR2], the kicker is that he will tighten up on the mask for the process which is a high-energy and anxious process that is unsustainable, and if they get captive like that and are forced to mask up tight for too long it usually ends dramatically [12:05] schestowitz[TR2] i once lives in a shared block with one [12:05] schestowitz[TR2] in 2003 [12:06] schestowitz[TR2] yes, 20 years ago [12:06] schestowitz[TR2] the mba student I named earlier [12:06] schestowitz[TR2] I was frankly shocked by some of the things he said [12:06] schestowitz[TR2] we shared a block for just a week at most [12:06] bagira yeah id bet it was memorable [12:06] bagira they're like walking husks after you get through the fluff [12:06] schestowitz[TR2] he said something likle [12:07] schestowitz[TR2] (from memory, not accurate at all) [12:07] schestowitz[TR2] "I just need to use oter people to my benefit" [12:07] schestowitz[TR2] not in those words [12:07] schestowitz[TR2] he was sober [12:07] schestowitz[TR2] it was before we shared a drink near my gym [12:07] schestowitz[TR2] so i knew a screw in his head was loose [12:07] schestowitz[TR2] at school a guy told me to move to another seat [12:07] bagira rings more of like sociopath or pyschopath vibe [12:07] schestowitz[TR2] said he was richer than me [12:08] schestowitz[TR2] but he was like 10 at the time [12:08] schestowitz[TR2] the guy who acted this was later was like 25 [12:10] TR News So many headlines about Chinese balloons. So Xi flew his condom on hydrogen, so what? The media is making a lot of it... as if this type of stuff was never done before (other nations too). [12:11] bagira im surprised so many people don't know that china doesn't need a weather balloon to spy in the us, they have one of the most prolific humint apparatuses in human history [12:11] TR News What China did with a balloon is very routinely done with classic drones, inc. by the US. "BUT FFS, they are CHINESE! HOW DARE THEY???" [12:12] schestowitz[TR2] bagira: and satellites [12:12] bagira that's satint [12:12] schestowitz[TR2] if they want alta vista footage [12:12] bagira but yeah that too [12:12] schestowitz[TR2] the zooming capabilities are impressive [12:12] schestowitz[TR2] if they want to survey military basis [12:12] schestowitz[TR2] down to assets like tanks [12:12] schestowitz[TR2] *bases [12:13] bagira dude no i mean they have humint, like boots, on the ground, in all the places they want info about [12:13] schestowitz[TR2] there are many chinese people [12:13] schestowitz[TR2] but also indianj people [12:13] bagira its just sometimes those boots are flip flops on big booty mamas [12:13] schestowitz[TR2] all over the planet [12:13] schestowitz[TR2] why don't we worry about china? simplee. [12:13] bagira because we can't do anything about it [12:13] schestowitz[TR2] because india does not pose a big threat to western production monopolies. [12:14] schestowitz[TR2] india is mostly servicing those. [12:14] bagira dude if we ever went to all out war with china it there would be a historical effort to purge mutual spies from each other's government, military, social, political, and industry infrastructure [12:15] bagira that's mostly conjecture, i mean, im not in that space [12:15] bagira i just can't imagine we'd be able to get a nuke off without having to root out a shitload of sleepers [12:16] bagira from finance [12:16] bagira tech [12:16] bagira gov [12:16] bagira mil [12:16] bagira all of it [12:16] schestowitz[TR2] there are already proxy wars [12:16] schestowitz[TR2] several fronts [12:16] schestowitz[TR2] and several nations as hoppign poitns [12:16] schestowitz[TR2] ph. guam korea to name 3 [12:17] schestowitz[TR2] wait till china gets zosy in mexico like it does in s america [12:17] schestowitz[TR2] like in ww2, the corporations are "neutral" [12:17] schestowitz[TR2] all the major us companies are still "made in china" [12:17] schestowitz[TR2] and europe still busy energy from russia [12:17] schestowitz[TR2] *buys [12:18] bagira schestowitz[TR2], btw, re: mjg59_ - you might already be aware of it, but you're creating a positive reinforcement feedback loop with him because he's going to feed off witty responses as you call his bad behaviours out. [12:19] bagira if you muted him at random times throughout the day for like an hour at a time it'll completely change the dynamic [12:19] bagira so that way he doesn't get that little serotonin hit from the fight [12:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. 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[12:29] schestowitz[TR2] they start by torturing animals, like kicking puppies :-) [12:29] schestowitz[TR2] he was on mute here for about a year [12:29] schestowitz[TR2] until we left freenode [12:29] bagira i dont expect anything like that in this case re: animals [12:29] schestowitz[TR2] and we decided to be hands-off [12:29] schestowitz[TR2] he was the only muted person [12:29] bagira lol [12:30] bagira i bet it drove him craycray [12:30] schestowitz[TR2] he used sockpuppt [12:30] schestowitz[TR2] to tell me he sent me lawwsuit threat [12:30] schestowitz[TR2] it was very importanst for him [12:30] bagira lol [12:30] schestowitz[TR2] to intimidate me [12:30] schestowitz[TR2] after I had accused him of defaming me [12:30] bagira yeah i wonder why he hasn't tried to sue me yet [12:30] schestowitz[TR2] http://techrights.org/2021/03/05/google-funded-trolls/ [12:30] bagira perhaps he knows what kind of shitstorm is in that can of worms [12:30] TR Bot Professional Troll Matthew Garrett Spreads Libel, Defamation and Slander About the Free Software Community to Entertain Microsoft and Friends | Techrights [12:31] bagira i actually try very hard to avoid litigating over anything [12:32] bagira like if someone borrows a bunch of money and doesn't pay it back, ill hit them up occassionally for it and if it becomes obvious they're welching, ill just write them out of my life usually [12:33] bagira but when i do litigate [12:33] bagira .... [12:34] bagira anyway, i would just bear in mind that he's getting a little rush from being able to pop off those one-liners and it gives him the ability to rewrite being called out as a competition of words that he will convince himself that he "won" [12:34] bagira in much the same way he views himself as a "leading expert" of anything [12:36] psydruid a "leading expert" of spreading lies and malicious computing [12:36] bagira it's all ego-driven [12:36] bagira like with T'so, the motivation wasn't to clear room for others, it was for the attention the publication was going to get him [12:37] bagira secure boot -- attention and validation [12:37] bagira even negative attention is narcissistic supply [12:50] schestowitz[TR2] that's universallt true, BUT [12:50] schestowitz[TR2] it's not that simple [12:50] schestowitz[TR2] not all publicity is a gain [12:50] schestowitz[TR2] my grandad said, [12:50] schestowitz[TR2] people can become "famous" by being mass murderers [12:51] schestowitz[TR2] also, some "fame" lowers your relevance span [12:51] schestowitz[TR2] you can post a lie or clickbait [12:51] schestowitz[TR2] the gain is temporarily [12:51] schestowitz[TR2] "boy who cried wolf" [12:51] schestowitz[TR2] not all publicity helps... where's Glen Beck? 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Make a persona not a mystery. | Derek Sivers [16:34] TR News "Universities are not one of those places." https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/tech/UniversityPeopleWantOurIPs | Source: University of Toronto [16:34] TR Bot Chris's Wiki :: blog/tech/UniversityPeopleWantOurIPs [16:35] TR News "The drive had some data from a relative who passed away, so I was keen to read it." https://www.markhansen.co.nz/short-circuited-external-disk-recovery/ | Source: Mark Hansen [16:35] TR Bot Short-Circuited External Disk Recovery [16:36] *web-60 has quit (*.net *.split) [16:36] *web-6072 has quit (*.net *.split) [16:36] TR News "From the Mac OSX release history, Mac OSX versions appear to be supported for three years, so in three years, my bc should be in the majority of Mac OSX installs" https://gavinhoward.com/2023/02/my-code-conquered-another-os/ | Source: Gavin Howard [16:36] TR Bot My Code Conquered Another OS! | Gavin D. 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By heading back to the server (Swiss basement not required)." https://deno.com/blog/the-future-and-past-is-server-side-rendering | Source: Deno Land Inc [16:37] *cybrNaut has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [16:37] *mekkis has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [16:37] TR Bot The Future (and the Past) of the Web is Server Side Rendering [16:37] *hvxgr has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [16:37] TR News "On December 14th, 2022, in collaboration with technologists on team CTO and attorneys in BCP" https://www.ftc.gov/policy/advocacy-research/tech-at-ftc/2023/02/security-principles-addressing-underlying-causes-risk-complex-systems | Source: Federal Trade Commission [16:37] TR Bot Security Principles: Addressing underlying causes of risk in complex systems | Federal Trade Commission [16:38] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [16:38] TR News "In other words: a format that is lossy, simple and quite ok. Naturally, it's called QOA the Quite OK Audio Format" https://phoboslab.org/log/2023/02/qoa-time-domain-audio-compression | Source: Dominic Szablewski [16:38] TR Bot PhobosLab [16:38] *Noisytoot has quit (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in) [16:39] TR News "Itll be even better in the coming years because data #interoperability via FHIR will let apps and hospitals go GET the data" https://enews.com.ng/2023/02/with-access-to-my-records-i-took-my-business-elsewhere-the-health-care-blog/ | Source: Enews Nigeria [16:39] TR Bot With Access To My Records, I Took My Business Elsewhere The Health Care Blog [16:39] *sbp has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [16:39] *kermit has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [16:40] TR News "Twitter will no longer provide free access to the Twitter API from February 9th." https://www.theverge.com/2023/2/2/23582615/twitter-removing-free-api-developer-apps-price-announcement | Source: The Verge [16:40] TR Bot Twitter to remove free API access in latest money making quest - The Verge [16:41] TR News "[Attackers] are spreading malicious installers by leveraging KoiVM virtualisation technology that enables malware to evade detection when installing it." https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/big-data/how-hackers-are-using-google-ads-network-to-steal-users-data/97583570 | Source: India Times [16:41] TR Bot How hackers are using Google ads network to steal users data, CIO News, ET CIO [16:41] *rowbee has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [16:41] *Techrights-sec has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [16:41] *jkl has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [16:41] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [16:41] *ohama has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [16:42] TR News "The script requires that you have the openssl and curl utilities available to your shell environment." https://www.madboa.com/blog/2023/02/03/certificate-info/ | Source: Paul Heinlein [16:42] TR Bot Viewing Remote SSL Certificate Info [16:42] *sbp (~sbp@freenode-1m86vc.cfhm.haf7.0u8u7u.IP) has joined #techrights [16:42] *Disconnected (Remote host closed socket). [16:43] TR News "The original proposal is already pretty bad, but the changes by the Council of the European Union make it much, much worse." https://maxim.tips/worse-chatcontrol/ | Source: Maxim Tips [16:43] TR Bot Chatcontrol is getting worse - Maxim's Blog [16:44] TR News "In May 2022, the European Commission presented its proposal for a Regulation to combat child sexual abuse (CSA) online." https://edri.org/our-work/member-states-want-internet-service-providers-to-do-the-impossible-in-the-fight-against-child-sexual-abuse/ | Source: EDRI [16:44] TR Bot Member States want internet service providers to do the impossible in the fight against child sexual abuse - European Digital Rights (EDRi) [16:44] TR News "The Pakistan Telecommunication Authority (PTA) said Wikipedia failed to comply with its ultimatum" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-64523501 | Source: BBC [16:44] TR Bot Pakistan blocks Wikipedia for 'blasphemous content' - BBC News [16:45] TR News "CNET built a trusted brand for tech reporting over two decades." https://www.theverge.com/2023/2/2/23582046/cnet-red-ventures-ai-seo-advertisers-changed-reviews-editorial-independence-affiliate-marketing | Source: The Verge [16:45] TR Bot CNET pushed reporters to be more favorable to advertisers, staffers say - The Verge [16:46] TR News "Network company Nokia and the VTT Technical Research Centre of Finland have recently topped patent application lists" https://yle.fi/a/74-20016460 | Source: YLE [16:46] TR Bot Finnish patent filings drop | News | Yle Uutiset [16:46] TR News "Itll be even better in the coming years because data #interoperability via FHIR will let apps and hospitals go GET the data" https://enews.com.ng/2023/02/with-access-to-my-records-i-took-my-business-elsewhere-the-health-care-blog/ | Source: Enews Nigeria [16:48] TR News teachers https://truthout.org/articles/how-chicago-teachers-stopped-a-toxic-polluter-from-poisoning-their-students/ | Source: TruthOut [16:48] TR Bot How Chicago Teachers Stopped a Toxic Polluter From Poisoning Their Students - Truthout [16:50] TR News nader https://scheerpost.com/2023/02/05/ralph-nader-the-progenitor-of-inequalities-corporate-personhood-vs-human-beings/ | Source: Scheerpost [16:50] TR Bot Nader: The Progenitor of Inequalities Corporate Personhood vs. Human Beings - scheerpost.com [16:50] TR News "mega strike" https://scheerpost.com/2023/02/05/british-mega-strike-half-a-million-workers-bring-uk-to-a-halt-and-protest-government/ | Source: Scheerpost [16:50] TR Bot Mega Strike: Half a Million Workers Bring UK to a Halt and Protest Government - scheerpost.com [16:54] TR News "ChatGPT has sent shockwaves through higher education, creating a moral panic about the threat that artificial intelligence (AI) poses to the classroom." https://www.projectcensored.org/stfu-about-chatgpt/ | Source: Project Censored [16:54] TR Bot reply from server ( status 0 @ https://www.projectcensored.org/stfu-about-chatgpt/ ) [16:55] TR News "According to Mr. Longs application for a temporary restraining order and preliminary injunction to protect his rights and his life while the case proceeds..." https://papersplease.org/wp/2023/02/04/a-blacklist-is-not-a-basis-for-search-or-seizure/ | Source: Papers Please [16:55] TR Bot A blacklist is not a basis for search or seizure Papers, Please! [16:56] TR News Microsoft = CENSORSHIP MACHINE. "Last month, GitHub disabled the website of a Pirate Bay proxy information portal after receiving a DMCA notice from City of London Police." https://torrentfreak.com/pirate-bay-proxy-defeats-polices-github-takedown-with-dmca-counternotice-230204/ | Source: Torrent Freak [16:56] TR Bot Bay Proxy Defeats Police's GitHub Takedown with DMCA Counternotice * TorrentFreak [16:57] TR News How To Install GoldenDict with English-Indonesian on Ubuntu for Language Education https://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2023/02/how-to-install-goldendict-with-english-indonesian-on-ubuntu-for-language-education.html | Source: Ubuntubuzz [16:57] TR Bot How To Install GoldenDict with English-Indonesian on Ubuntu for Language Education [16:58] *Now talking on #techrights [16:58] *sbp (~sbp@freenode-m7i.q7q.b87eii.IP) has joined #techrights [16:58] *rianne_ (~rianne@freenode-l1k.svk.i86sua.IP) has joined #techrights [16:59] *Creation time of #techrights changed from Sun Feb 05 2023 16:58:29 to Sun Feb 05 2023 13:19:48 [16:59] **.freenode.net sets mode -n #techrights [16:59] **.freenode.net sets mode -t #techrights [16:59] **.freenode.net removes channel operator status from :mekkis [16:59] **.freenode.net sets mode +n #techrights [16:59] **.freenode.net sets mode +t #techrights [16:59] *web-60 (~web-60@freenode-er0.s48.g1iorc.IP) has joined #techrights [16:59] *web-6072 (~web-60@freenode-er0.s48.g1iorc.IP) has joined #techrights [16:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Feb 05 [17:00] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@freenode/user/Noisytoot) has joined #techrights [17:00] *hvxgr (~wl2v_usrn@freenode-ong.pov.c33bnd.IP) has joined #techrights [17:00] *Techrights-sec (~quassel@freenode-l1k.svk.i86sua.IP) has joined #techrights [17:00] *rowbee (~augh@freenode-6n0.an1.6o3glj.IP) has joined #techrights [17:00] TR News inequality https://truthout.org/articles/massive-inequality-is-a-concerted-elite-class-project-says-heather-gautney/ | Source: TruthOut [17:00] TR Bot Massive Inequality Is a Concerted Elite Class Project, Says Heather Gautney - Truthout [17:01] *kermit (sid393220@freenode/user/kermit) has joined #techrights [17:03] TR News schools https://scheerpost.com/2023/02/05/a-colossal-giveaway-a-tax-break-for-big-polluters-is-also-starving-public-schools-in-texas/ | Source: Scheerpost [17:03] TR Bot Colossal Giveaway: A Tax Break for Big Polluters Is Also Starving Public Schools in Texas - scheerpost.com [17:05] *web-6072 has quit (*.net *.split) [17:05] *web-60 has quit (*.net *.split) [17:07] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [17:08] TR News "It turns out that typing all day just might be bad for your hands and fingers." https://hackaday.com/2023/02/04/fulcrum-foils-finger-fatigue/ | Source: Hackaday [17:08] TR Bot Foils Finger Fatigue | Hackaday [17:08] TR News "A computing platform is never really dead unless people stop developing new software for it." https://hackaday.com/2023/02/04/the-wic64-brings-classic-commodores-online-google-maps-included/ | Source: Hackaday [17:08] TR Bot WiC64 Brings Classic Commodores Online, Google Maps Included | Hackaday [17:11] TR News "increasing shift to remote work in higher education" https://scheerpost.com/2023/02/04/the-professional-managerial-class-strikes-back/ | Source: Scheerpost [17:11] TR Bot Professional Managerial Class Strikes Back! - scheerpost.com [17:13] TR News "The fonts seen with old computer systems such as those from Apple and Commodore" https://hackaday.com/2023/02/04/reliving-a-bitmapped-past-with-a-veritable-hoard-of-bitmap-fonts/ | Source: Hackaday [17:13] TR Bot A Bitmapped Past With A Veritable Hoard Of Bitmap Fonts | Hackaday [17:14] MinceR (cat) https://ircz.de/p/22122139 [17:14] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living /p/22122139 [17:14] TR News "When a vintage computer is all but unobtanium, software emulation is often all that remains." https://hackaday.com/2023/02/04/mcm-70-replica-embodies-proud-canadian-heritage/ | Source: Hackaday [17:14] TR Bot Replica Embodies Proud Canadian Heritage | Hackaday [17:15] TR News Inflation Reduction Act https://www.commondreams.org/news/white-house-says-gop-bill-would-force-one-of-the-biggest-medicare-benefit-cuts-in-us-history | Source: Common Dreams [17:15] TR Bot White House Says GOP Bill Would Force 'One of the Biggest Medicare Benefit Cuts' in US History [17:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. 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[17:25] schestowitz[TR2] don't crticiise ICBM either [17:25] schestowitz[TR2] ICBM is important to Europe [17:25] schestowitz[TR2] it helps Hitler [17:25] schestowitz[TR2] and profits from it [17:25] schestowitz[TR2] Love, SFC [17:26] schestowitz[TR2] http://techrights.org/2021/12/30/outreachy-funding/ [17:26] TR Bot Diversity Funding From Enablers of Adolf Hitler (Not a Joke, Not Even Funny) | Techrights [17:27] schestowitz[TR2] SFC: http://techrights.org/2021/02/08/fosdem-ibm-gag/ [17:27] TR Bot FOSDEM and Free Speech: Will It Blend? | Techrights [17:27] schestowitz[TR2] cannot criticise their sponsors [17:29] *Now talking on #techrights [17:30] *ohama (ohama@freenode-0df.kav.vc6dkt.IP) has joined #techrights [17:31] *web-60 (~web-60@freenode-er0.s48.g1iorc.IP) has joined #techrights [17:36] AdmFubar so did a lot of companies in wwII [17:39] *lightbringer (mincer@freenode/user/lightbringer) has joined #techrights [17:39] *web-60 has quit (Quit: Page closed) [17:44] *birkoff (birkoff@freenode-adfd07.pp8t.eshf.59jtia.IP) has joined #techrights [17:51] AdmFubar https://www.ghacks.net/2023/02/04/chatgpt-is-used-by-cybercriminals-to-write-better-phishing-emails/ [17:51] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.ghacks.net/2023/02/04/chatgpt-is-used-by-cybercriminals-to-write-better-phishing-emails/ ) [17:52] AdmFubar :)) m$'s own ads are bad for their users!!! https://www.ghacks.net/2023/02/04/microsoft-365-ad-blocks-windows-10-desktop-access-for-some-users/ [17:52] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.ghacks.net/2023/02/04/microsoft-365-ad-blocks-windows-10-desktop-access-for-some-users/ ) [17:54] *AdmFubar has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [17:58] *hvxgr (~wl2v_usrn@freenode-ong.pov.c33bnd.IP) has joined #techrights ● Feb 05 [18:18] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/23011450 [18:18] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living /p/23011450 [18:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-04.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-05.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [18:22] *liberty_box (~liberty@cmqvhnsqp2x3i.irc) has joined #techrights [18:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Feb 05 [19:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-04.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-05.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [19:23] *AdmFubar (~mradmin@ngqaam7baxnug.irc) has joined #techrights [19:23] AdmFubar https://hackaday.com/2023/02/04/copyright-data-but-do-it-right/ [19:23] TR Bot Data, But Do It Right | Hackaday [19:39] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/23011430 [19:39] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living /p/23011430 ● Feb 05 [20:12] MinceR (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMLq7ZcHLuo [20:12] TR Bot https://vid.puffyan.us/watch?v=YMLq7ZcHLuo [20:12] TR Bot vid.puffyan.us | r/Onejob | cant wait for WW12! - Invidious [20:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-04.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-05.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [20:46] AdmFubar https://nypost.com/2023/01/28/facebook-fires-worker-who-refused-to-do-negative-testing-awsuit/ [20:46] TR Bot Facebook fires worker who refused to do 'negative testing': 'awsuit [20:48] AdmFubar now with moar!!! ;) https://slashdot.org/story/23/02/03/1749202/the-newest-feature-in-the-microsoft-store-is-more-ads [20:48] TR Bot The Newest Feature in the Microsoft Store is More Ads - Slashdot [20:49] psydruid I hope Facebook fires all workers [20:49] psydruid so there is no one to do any work anymore and the site shuts down [20:50] psydruid those aren't real jobs anyway [20:50] psydruid and if there are any they're for doing malicious things [20:50] psydruid so no good for mankind [20:51] MinceR (cat) https://www.deviantart.com/arkus83/art/Tycoon-946395549 [20:51] TR Bot by Arkus83 on DeviantArt [20:53] AdmFubar they will soon be able to replace just about all workers with ChatGPT [20:55] bagira chatgpt is indeed impressive but i dont think itll be replacing much in the near future [20:56] bagira its got too many builtin limitations that prevent it from being able to do that [20:56] bagira and, it's centralized [20:56] bagira it wont scale [20:56] bagira despite the great marketing [20:57] bagira a competitor product might replace everything [20:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Feb 05 [21:05] MinceR and its output is unreliable [21:05] MinceR all it can do is produce plausible-looking text that could be correct or it could be bunk [21:11] psydruid but that's a good thing [21:11] psydruid I hope they will use it to fire lots of people at M$ [21:11] MinceR :) [21:12] MinceR unfortunately, mafias like MICROS~1 and dehomag don't really _need_ to have lots of people employed [21:12] MinceR they've sunk their tentacles into other people's projects (like Linux) already [21:12] MinceR they've made close connections with various states [21:12] psydruid I'm fine with that too [21:13] MinceR you won't like it so much once you find out what its consequences are :> [21:13] psydruid it only means free software needs to go back to its roots and create new community projects [21:13] MinceR yeah [21:13] psydruid real communities [21:13] MinceR and the community needs to learn from this [21:13] MinceR and never trust anyone in a suit ever again [21:14] bagira in brighter news ive fixed a long standing bug that's been a blocker for the creation of surro linux (eventually to be renamed) [21:14] MinceR what was the bug in? [21:15] bagira there was an issue with subprocess i/o routing that impacted curses dialogs in rex, the engine that automates the whole process [21:15] bagira i still need to polish the subprocess execution piece and then merge it into rex but it is in progress and performs quite well now [21:16] bagira just needed time to research it [21:17] bagira i only get time to do long work sessions on my own stuff these days when i take a vacation [21:17] bagira it is not a revelation that the new distro is here, but more of a blocker finally moving out of the way [21:17] bagira if i had more people and some VC this process would move much faster [21:19] bagira but, in a way, it ending up like this is good because i means i can patrick volkerding it when it finally releases unless something changes [21:19] AdmFubar so in other words no real change in bing results?? :P [21:20] bagira yep [21:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-04.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-05.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [21:20] AdmFubar my point exactly [21:20] bagira its not ready for much yet [21:20] bagira besides to move forward again [21:21] AdmFubar remember if m$ wants it has to be bad... [21:22] bagira i wont be talking much about that in regards to that project because of what that project is intended to do [21:23] bagira i am highly resistant to being targeted but that doesn't mean i would enjoy it :P [21:24] bagira ill just say that it's unlikely ill become a billionaire from my efforts there [21:28] *immibis_ (~immibis@b7zwz8tn5nzkn.irc) has joined #techrights [21:28] *immibis_ (~immibis@2a02:3032:e:27ab:afc5:8316:46a3:4579) has joined #techrights [21:33] MinceR bng results go from irrelevant to possibly made up and irrelevant [21:51] bagira it's never relevant until it is, unless you have marketers [21:52] bagira as to making things up, that's never been my cup of tea. i do alot with a little. [21:53] MinceR chatgupta seems to be pretty good at it [21:59] bagira MinceR, I was impressed: https://ibb.co/Hgn59Sk [21:59] TR Bot Screenshot-2023-02-05-00-47-53 hosted at ImgBB ImgBB ● Feb 05 [22:07] *tessier has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:10] *tessier (~treed@5myihpvakp3i8.irc) has joined #techrights [22:15] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) [22:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. 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[22:44] DaemonFC "ChatGPT fared better during a business management course exam at Wharton, where it earned a B to B- grade. In a paper detailing the performance, Christian Terwiesch, a Wharton business professor, said ChatGPT did an amazing job at answering basic operations management and process-analysis questions but struggled with more advanced prompts and made surprising mistakes with basic math. [22:44] DaemonFC These mistakes can be massive in magnitude, he wrote." [22:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Feb 05 [23:02] DaemonFC Me: How does Reddit make sure adult content is legal? [23:02] DaemonFC ChatGPT: Reddit has policies and guidelines that prohibit illegal content, including sexually explicit or suggestive material. They enforce these policies through a combination of automated filters, human moderators, and user reports. Reddit may also comply with law enforcement requests to remove illegal content. However, it's important to note that enforcing these policies can be difficult and Reddit does not guarantee the legality of all [23:02] DaemonFC content posted on the site. [23:02] DaemonFC Me: So basically it doesn't care because Section 230 protects them as long as they remove it if they become aware of it. [23:02] DaemonFC ChatGPT: That's correct. As a website operator, Reddit has immunity from liability for the user-generated content that is posted on its platform, as long as it acts in good faith to remove any illegal or infringing content that it becomes aware of. This immunity is provided by Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, which is a federal law in the United States. However, Reddit still has a responsibility to take reasonable steps to remove [23:02] DaemonFC illegal or infringing content, and failure to do so could result in liability. [23:03] bagira how is 4chan protected by that [23:04] DaemonFC Me: Does anything protect users who have seen inappropriate material from being prosecuted if it was on Reddit and Reddit has complied with Section 230? [23:04] DaemonFC ChatGPT: No, users who view or share illegal content are not protected by Section 230 or any similar law. Section 230 only protects online intermediaries like Reddit from being held liable for the actions of their users. Viewing or sharing illegal content can still result in criminal charges for the user, regardless of whether the content was hosted on a website protected by Section 230 or not. It is important to exercise caution and to always [23:04] DaemonFC follow the law when using the internet. [23:04] DaemonFC Me: Even if the person who loaded such content in a browser was totally unaware of that illegality? [23:05] DaemonFC ChatGPT: In the United States, Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act generally provides immunity for websites like Reddit for third-party content posted on their platform. This means that, as a user, you are generally protected from criminal or civil liability for viewing illegal content that you did not know was illegal and that was posted by someone else. However, it's important to note that there are some exceptions to Section 230 [23:05] DaemonFC immunity, such as in cases involving federal criminal law, intellectual property law, and other specific laws. Additionally, Section 230 only applies in the US, and different countries may have different laws and protections regarding online content. [23:06] DaemonFC Me: So a person casually browsing Reddit who accidentally loads such material could be logged by Reddit and then find themselves the subject of criminal proceedings for unintentional violations of federal law? [23:06] DaemonFC ChatGPT: In theory, it's possible that someone who accidentally views illegal adult content on Reddit could be subject to prosecution, however, the likelihood of that happening is low. It's important to note that law enforcement would have to prove that the person knowingly and intentionally viewed the illegal material, which can be difficult to do in a casual browsing scenario. Additionally, Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act [23:06] DaemonFC provides protection for websites like Reddit, so they would not be held liable for the actions of their users. [23:07] DaemonFC Me: In theory, if a user ended up in this situation and later deleted browsing history for whatever reason, could they be charged with Obstruction under the Sarbanes-Oxley Act? [23:07] DaemonFC ChatGPT: In theory, it is possible for a person to be charged with Obstruction under the Sarbanes-Oxley Act for deleting browsing history that relates to illegal activity. However, such a charge would be difficult to prove and would likely require additional evidence beyond just the deletion of the browsing history. Additionally, the applicability of the Sarbanes-Oxley Act in this context would depend on the specific circumstances and the law [23:07] DaemonFC enforcement agencies involved. It's important to note that the Sarbanes-Oxley Act was enacted primarily in response to accounting fraud and financial reporting abuses by corporations, and it's not clear how the act would apply to the average person's browsing history. [23:07] DaemonFC LOL [23:07] DaemonFC how is 4chan protected by that [23:07] DaemonFC They're an online service provider same as Reddit. [23:07] DaemonFC But it wouldn't protect anyone who has seen it. [23:08] bagira yeah what doesn't make sense is that immunity from liability is a result of reddit removing content when they become aware of it [23:08] bagira 4chan doesn't do that afaict [23:08] h4unt3d a chatbot isn't anything innovative, it seems someone had invested giant amounts of money into infrastructure to process giant text data bases [23:08] DaemonFC Reddit knows what you view and who you are because (1) You're logged in, (2) they retain your IP addresses that you've used with the account, and (3) if feds came snooping around, they could just hand over everyone who has seen this content. [23:09] h4unt3d although, i would be curious, how ChatGPT could push to the level of quality seen [23:10] h4unt3d some basic building block, is the inverse function of a search engine, which suggests "did you mean" [23:11] h4unt3d and i suspect, pre-generated text-blocks exist, a giant amount of document-corpus, to match against [23:11] bagira that poem i had generated appears to be an entirely original work of art [23:12] h4unt3d missed the poem [23:12] bagira h4unt3d: https://ibb.co/Hgn59Sk [23:12] TR Bot Screenshot-2023-02-05-00-47-53 hosted at ImgBB ImgBB [23:12] h4unt3d to put ChatGPT to test, something completely out-of-context had to be asked [23:14] h4unt3d such as: "what is an alternative approach to heisenbergs uncertainty principle, to avoid the mis-conception of the planck quantum" [23:14] h4unt3d in theory, ChatGPT may build some text-blocks, which is highly sophisticated with it, no doubt, yet it can't if there wasn't some pre-generated text-corpus for such a question [23:15] h4unt3d bagira: is it easily possible for you to post this question to ChatGPT? [23:16] bagira h4unt3d, what do you mean [23:16] h4unt3d i mean i would be curious what ChatGPT could answer to such a question, it may not have encountered before, nor got a relevant pre-generated text-corpus available for [23:16] bagira what question [23:17] bagira oh missed in your earlier message [23:17] h4unt3d 2023-02-05 23:14:03 such as: "what is an alternative approach to heisenbergs uncertainty principle, to avoid the mis-conception of the planck quantum" [23:17] bagira yeah it's pretty good at that, alarmingly good [23:17] bagira last night i had a nigh-holodeck experience watching it narrate a debate between Alexander the Great and Plato about the nature of strength. [23:18] bagira It was like being on star trek. [23:19] h4unt3d you could read a good book too, chatgpt scrapes from for you [23:19] bagira it's alarmingly good at building threat models for target profiles too [23:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-04.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-05.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [23:20] MinceR it just needs to be supervised by someone who is already good at that [23:20] bagira it has some ethical safeguards so it tries to resist answering on adversarial models but if you ask in the right way it'll very systematically define a threat model with a profile you define [23:20] h4unt3d it's overrated, and dangerous, and unnecessary too [23:20] bagira it's very very good at the high level [23:20] bagira it's less good at the low level [23:21] bagira as long as you can roughly traverse the abstractions you can do some cool things with it [23:21] h4unt3d obviously the algorithms can, 1) identify many relevant books and then 2) skim those for you, and 3) construct the text-blocks... this is what ChatGPT does [23:22] bagira its doing a little more than that [23:22] bagira the next version will be an order of magnitude better too [23:22] MinceR it was on the brochure, it has got to be true [23:23] bagira nah there are technical drivers [23:23] h4unt3d i see little to no relevant progress, ordinary search engines and wikipedia existed before, and ChatGPT builds upon that [23:23] bagira well, try to use your imagination a little harder [23:24] h4unt3d in essence, this is what ChatGPT does, in comparison to some other use-case [23:24] bagira ive had it for a day and unblocked 3 of my projects that i couldn't with just google [23:24] h4unt3d such as, sorting emails into pre-defined mailboxes, which got a filter-criteria set, and emails routed into those automatically [23:25] h4unt3d this is what ChatGPT does, the query routing obviously is more sophisticated, and must depend on GIGANTIC text-corpus to match against [23:25] MinceR or it was just trained with a gigantic text corpus [23:25] bagira its generated content is disturbingly relevant to be just that [23:26] h4unt3d i think, this ChatGPT doesn't at least build upon traditional neural network perceptrons (which is what's referred to with traditional AI) [23:26] MinceR no, it has more layers [23:26] MinceR "deep learning" is all the rage [23:26] h4unt3d it's not an "AI", it is a "natural language processing" system, a sophisticated, but it's not AI and it is probably not any of the learning algorithms involved either [23:27] bagira if the next version is what it claims to be ill probably build an "alexa"-esque kiosk with voice recognition and text to speech for the house [23:27] h4unt3d i had not seen any such system before, except the one i programmed myself, year 2016, which wasn't that capable, but nonetheless, the principle was the same [23:27] MinceR "Natural language processing (NLP) is an interdisciplinary subfield of linguistics, computer science, and artificial intelligence" [23:27] MinceR emphasis mine [23:28] h4unt3d depends on the defintion of AI, if it excludes neural network perceptrons, then it is not traditional AI [23:28] MinceR why would it exclude perceptrons? [23:28] h4unt3d because, i think, those are not suitable for what ChatGPT does [23:29] MinceR are you familiar with the concept of subclasses and subsets? [23:29] h4unt3d anyway, if you signed up for ChatGPT, could you do me a favor and ask the question i proposed? [23:29] h4unt3d "what is an alternative approach to heisenbergs uncertainty principle, to avoid the mis-conception of the planck quantum?" [23:31] bagira sign up for it yourself, nobody here is your PA [23:32] h4unt3d of cause not, yet it may have been interesting for everyone, to see how smart ChatGTP really was. [23:32] h4unt3d if at least one plausible sentence could be excreted by that thing. [23:33] bagira your comments reflect that you haven't tested it [23:33] bagira it's genuinely impressive [23:33] h4unt3d it is just, there isn't any book or text available, chatgpt could copy-paste from [23:33] bagira it's not [23:33] h4unt3d bagira: i had programmed such a system for nlp myself while ago, that's why i am curious [23:34] bagira i view it as a milestone innovation for that whole field [23:35] bagira i also think if someone replicated it without the safety features they baked in that it would be an extremely dangerous product [23:35] h4unt3d then it deserved appropriate scientific criticism, hence, let me see what ChatGPT has to say [23:35] MinceR if someone replicated it as free software, it could be a good starting point [23:35] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR2], I was reverse engineering the police interview of Rick Jones using ChatGPT. [23:35] h4unt3d ChatGPT: "what is an alternative approach to heisenbergs uncertainty principle, to avoid the mis-conception of the planck quantum?" [23:35] DaemonFC Notice they didn't go into a plea deal with him. [23:35] MinceR but the only thing "open" about it is part of the domain [23:35] h4unt3d i mean, ChatGPT, could at least say something? couldn't it? [23:35] DaemonFC They didn't need to. The detective gathered a confession and evidence of guilty mind. [23:36] DaemonFC Odds are he would have been punished even less than he was had he shut up. [23:36] DaemonFC Or tested the "free to leave" theory. [23:36] h4unt3d garbage-in garbage-out [23:37] DaemonFC It's generally best to ask if you're free to leave and then if they say yes, to force the issue immediately. [23:37] DaemonFC If you get arrested anyway, ask for an attorney. [23:37] DaemonFC If you don't, then walk away from it and immediately consult an attorney. [23:37] DaemonFC But don't agree to any interviews or questions. [23:42] *tessier has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:57] h4unt3d i see, when ChatGPT receives many requests, the servers can't handle those [23:58] h4unt3d little surprising, since the matching algorithms are extremely expensive, to scrape text blocks from gigantic data bases