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| DaemonFC[m] | They act like Trump has been good for them when he hasn't. | Jul 05 00:03 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | They don't even know if they can get their employees work visas extended, or if they'll just be deported. | Jul 05 00:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'd like to know how their stock does after they lose them. | Jul 05 00:04 |
| schestowitz | no, don't overlook the key part | Jul 05 00:04 |
| schestowitz | they'll send these jobs abroad | Jul 05 00:04 |
| schestowitz | first they let staff work from home | Jul 05 00:04 |
| schestowitz | they then lease out the office | Jul 05 00:04 |
| schestowitz | no physical presence | Jul 05 00:04 |
| schestowitz | they train replacement staff, remote staff, in cheaper markets | Jul 05 00:04 |
| schestowitz | but that takes time | Jul 05 00:04 |
| schestowitz | +43,591 | Jul 05 00:05 |
| schestowitz | 9 more to report | Jul 05 00:05 |
| schestowitz | Connecticut, Louisiana... | Jul 05 00:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I need a new speaker with no bluetooth. | Jul 05 00:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I had it connected to my computer with 3.5mm cord which means no bluetooth, then some guy connects to it with his phone last night and I heard his phone call coming out my bluetooth speaker. | Jul 05 00:10 |
| schestowitz | speakers ought not need BT | Jul 05 00:10 |
| schestowitz | never mind privacy aspects | Jul 05 00:10 |
| schestowitz | what are the chances of it lasting 30 years?\ | Jul 05 00:10 |
| schestowitz | my aux stereo, samsung, turned 25 | Jul 05 00:11 |
| schestowitz | and it still mostly works | Jul 05 00:11 |
| schestowitz | not the cassettes and cd | Jul 05 00:11 |
| schestowitz | but the rest is mostly ok | Jul 05 00:11 |
| schestowitz | now they mostly make laptops to last 3-5 years | Jul 05 00:11 |
| schestowitz | then they advise buying a new one. wth? | Jul 05 00:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, with Windows, it's like a smartphone. | Jul 05 00:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The OS and the support you get for it just degrades until you can hardly use it anymore. | Jul 05 00:12 |
| schestowitz | so stop buying it | Jul 05 00:12 |
| schestowitz | my aux system now is a logitech | Jul 05 00:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Pretty much. | Jul 05 00:12 |
| schestowitz | got it second hand for like 30 quid | Jul 05 00:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Considering fresh install for Fedora with BtrFS. | Jul 05 00:12 |
| schestowitz | and it still works like new | Jul 05 00:12 |
| schestowitz | after 6-7 years | Jul 05 00:13 |
| schestowitz | 6-piece system | Jul 05 00:13 |
| schestowitz | stop buying 'smart' things | Jul 05 00:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I need to make backups. | Jul 05 00:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Downloading Fedora 32 KDE respin. | Jul 05 00:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | See what that's looking like. GNOME is pissing me off lately. | Jul 05 00:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The clocks app keeps waking up and pegging a CPU core. | Jul 05 00:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'd try Kubuntu but the Canonical barf factor is just too much these days. | Jul 05 00:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | What interests me in BtrFS is it's performing better lately, apparently, the whole subvolume for Home that is more like a separator than a hard barrier on an LVM layer, and compression. | Jul 05 00:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | On my old high speed internet connection I didn't worry too much about updates and lots of them after install. | Jul 05 00:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But with the hotel wifi, I do. | Jul 05 00:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So the respins thing is nice. | Jul 05 00:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's going to be a 3.5 hour download just to get the ISO file. | Jul 05 00:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It'd be another 3 hours of update downloading if I got the release ISO. | Jul 05 00:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: If we've learned anything about the virus from the first wave, it's that even if your state wants to get it under control, it can take a month for numbers to start dropping much. | Jul 05 00:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Also, the states getting hammered right now have Republican mini-Trumps as their governors. So good luck ever getting them to do anything. | Jul 05 00:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Florida is in for the duration. | Jul 05 00:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They'll have 300,000 new cases or more in the month. | Jul 05 00:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They're going to skyrocket past New York's total very rapidly. | Jul 05 00:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The fucking bullshit "models" that have been so badly wrong so many times say 200,000 deaths by October. Truth is, Florida alone could add 40,000 deaths to what we have now and get us to 172,000 without any other states having 1 more death, which isn't possible. | Jul 05 00:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The bad news for Trump here is there's about 120 days left for this to play out before the election. | Jul 05 00:30 |
| *DaemonFC[m] uploaded an image: Screenshot from 2020-07-04 18-33-43.png (348KB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/CPDmzhxEIXXqceBjQtJJGEvu > | Jul 05 00:34 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | This data is suppressed! | Jul 05 00:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Sincerely, | Jul 05 00:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Party | Jul 05 00:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Maybe "Barb the Bot" knows. | Jul 05 00:37 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: I thought this is Windows 10 | Jul 05 00:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Huh? | Jul 05 00:39 |
| XRevan86 | while looking at just Vivaldi without seeing the whole picture | Jul 05 00:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Ahh... | Jul 05 00:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | How does Comrade Putin feel about Windows 10? | Jul 05 00:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Temporary President Medvedev didn't seem impressed by ReactOS. | Jul 05 00:40 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: There were some rare complaints, but generally nothing | Jul 05 00:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I suspect it would be in the interests of the government there to clone Windows. Move their applications to it and ditch the spyware. | Jul 05 00:41 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: ReactOS is a giant mess and proof that that's not a viable strategy. | Jul 05 00:42 |
| schestowitz | there are some reactos devs here | Jul 05 00:42 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: There are state-backed GNU/Linux distros | Jul 05 00:43 |
| XRevan86 | But the end-user levels of state management have no incentive or desire to change anything. | Jul 05 00:44 |
| XRevan86 | As far as I understand it, Windows is everywhere in the Russian government, and that isn't going to change anytime soon. | Jul 05 00:46 |
| XRevan86 | It is suspected that Putin uses Elbrus as a personal desktop, but little is known. | Jul 05 00:48 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: I still think Wine does the job not worse while working on top of a operating system that is much more solid. | Jul 05 00:50 |
| XRevan86 | What can ReactOS provide on top? Bad driver support? | Jul 05 00:50 |
| MinceR | frequent crashes, just like the original Backdoors NT | Jul 05 00:54 |
| MinceR | what more could you want? | Jul 05 00:54 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: Anyway, one thing to keep in mind, that government is reactionary, corrupt and inefficient. You're assuming they can get some done. | Jul 05 00:58 |
| kingoffrance | that...sounds like windows | Jul 05 00:58 |
| kingoffrance | i think there is chemistry | Jul 05 00:59 |
| XRevan86 | And Microsoft is maintaining a good relationship %) | Jul 05 00:59 |
| CrystalMath | i'm the only reactos dev i think | Jul 05 01:00 |
| CrystalMath | DaemonFC[m]: Putin actually donated a substantial amount to the ReactOS Foundation | Jul 05 01:00 |
| CrystalMath | substantial amounts, i should say | Jul 05 01:01 |
| XRevan86 | It's really impressive what Elbrus achieved with all things considered. | Jul 05 01:01 |
| CrystalMath | the ReactOS Foundation is based in Moscow, Russia | Jul 05 01:01 |
| CrystalMath | not to be confused with ReactOS Deutschland e.V. which now handles the project more | Jul 05 01:01 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | I'm backing things up. | Jul 05 01:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Probably going to move to Fedora 32 on KDE on btrfs if things look okay. | Jul 05 01:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Running zstd compression on BtrFS with "force", apparently results in quite a substantial savings in storage space, according to the Arch Linux documentation. | Jul 05 01:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | 20% on the root partition. | Jul 05 01:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's been getting, errrrm, larger lately. Especially with Flatpaks. | Jul 05 01:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | My 512 GB SSD in the laptop is feeling a little cramped. | Jul 05 01:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If I could squash the average file size down even 15%, it would help. | Jul 05 01:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Hell, I'd take 10. | Jul 05 01:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The size of GNOME in particular is beginning to look like Richard Dean Anderson, the later years. | Jul 05 01:29 |
| schestowitz | why gnome? | Jul 05 01:38 |
| schestowitz | what's so good about it? | Jul 05 01:39 |
| schestowitz | I have gnomeshell on one laptop | Jul 05 01:39 |
| schestowitz | but not my main pc | Jul 05 01:39 |
| akingu | Don't think that is the point made | Jul 05 01:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | KDE is apparently less of a pig, if I'm not mistaken. | Jul 05 01:43 |
| schestowitz | what hardware? | Jul 05 01:44 |
| kingoffrance | i thought kde had a dragon. gnome is dwarfing the competition, kde is...<insert dragon meme> | Jul 05 01:44 |
| kingoffrance | or am i just too tired and mixing up kde with mozilla dragon | Jul 05 01:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <schestowitz "what hardware?"> Intel i7-6560U in the Yoga laptop. | Jul 05 01:45 |
| schestowitz | kde plasma would fly | Jul 05 01:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It improved considerably when I set mitigations=off. | Jul 05 01:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Although, GNOME is having performance issues lately. | Jul 05 01:46 |
| schestowitz | konqueror is good also | Jul 05 01:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They outright broke part of Mutter and didn't notice, and now dragging a window can be painful and jittery sometimes. | Jul 05 01:46 |
| schestowitz | rekonq is still around, albeit abandoned it seems | Jul 05 01:46 |
| schestowitz | so it's back to konq | Jul 05 01:46 |
| schestowitz | falkon is ok | Jul 05 01:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Probably just install Vivaldi and use that. | Jul 05 01:47 |
| schestowitz | 45,182 new cases now | Jul 05 01:47 |
| schestowitz | Louisiana not reporting yet | Jul 05 01:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Seems Fedora KDE is a little rough around the edges, but nothing a few settings changes can't fix. | Jul 05 01:47 |
| schestowitz | Connecticut and Minnesota also not reporting today (so far) | Jul 05 01:47 |
| schestowitz | Kentucky, Rhode Island, NH | Jul 05 01:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Also, I don't really want to switch to different management tools and get crackpot Ubuntu nonsense popping up in unsuspected places. | Jul 05 01:47 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: vivaldi is malware | Jul 05 01:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Malware | Jul 05 01:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | ? | Jul 05 01:48 |
| schestowitz | proprietary | Jul 05 01:48 |
| schestowitz | so assume the worst | Jul 05 01:48 |
| schestowitz | its founder sold opera to china | Jul 05 01:48 |
| schestowitz | Hawaii says it only found 999 cases | Jul 05 01:49 |
| schestowitz | 2% of them dead now | Jul 05 01:49 |
| schestowitz | 224 active cases, still | Jul 05 01:49 |
| schestowitz | alaska also claims to be rather "clean" | Jul 05 01:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Wide open spaces. | Jul 05 01:50 |
| schestowitz | yup | Jul 05 01:50 |
| schestowitz | and used to it | Jul 05 01:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Far away from all of the Floriduh Morons that can get in the car and bring the problem elsewhere. | Jul 05 01:50 |
| schestowitz | no need for much human touch | Jul 05 01:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | We're back to adding cases more than twice as fast as they close them. | Jul 05 01:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | What would the government get if they pulled my Google Drive? | Jul 05 01:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Bunch of bankruptcy stuff. | Jul 05 01:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Voicemails with John making an idiot out of himself and falsely apologizing to me. | Jul 05 01:58 |
| schestowitz | at least we now know | Jul 05 01:58 |
| schestowitz | are you still working on the article? | Jul 05 01:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I got a "Congrats on paying off the car loan!" from a credit score site. | Jul 05 01:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | No, this cleanup has got me busy. Sorry. | Jul 05 01:58 |
| schestowitz | ok, no rush | Jul 05 01:59 |
| schestowitz | it's not time-sensitive anyway | Jul 05 01:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I should really screenshot that car loan thing and email it to John when this order expires. | Jul 05 01:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I like how circular the warrant loop is with Google. | Jul 05 02:01 |
| schestowitz | like I said before... | Jul 05 02:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Nothing in the law requires them to scan their servers for anything, only to report it if they know about it. So they could legally "not look" if they wanted to. | Jul 05 02:02 |
| schestowitz | remember that this is based on suspicion | Jul 05 02:02 |
| schestowitz | and not a national security pretext | Jul 05 02:02 |
| schestowitz | they pass the laws based on other premises | Jul 05 02:02 |
| schestowitz | so you see how cheaply this can be done | Jul 05 02:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, they want to know everything about everyone and nobody is going to defend a pedophile or a terrorist. | Jul 05 02:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So they go after them and then use the laws and tech to get everything about everybody. | Jul 05 02:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So what Facebook and Twitter and Google provide the government is an opportunity for you to rat yourself out, because as soon as you put anything there, the state knows. | Jul 05 02:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: The Probation Officer asked me if I thought that only stupid people got caught and that that's the only difference between them and most people. | Jul 05 02:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I congratulated her on asking a question from the Machiavellian Personality Test. | Jul 05 02:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then I said, "Well, it is factually true that being an idiot makes you much more likely to be caught doing something. I'm sure you'd know better than me." | Jul 05 02:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "An idiot doesn't attempt to conceal their crime well, so of course 90% of your 'clients' are idiots I'm sure, if not more." | Jul 05 02:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If it's something bad, you secure that shit somewhere nobody will ever know and you don't talk about it again, and by "secure that shit", I mean, well for starters, don't commit crimes where there's no profit. | Jul 05 02:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But if you already have, burn the evidence. Flush it down the toilet. Do whatever you have to in order to get rid of it immediately and never talk about it again. | Jul 05 02:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If the police come to "talk" don't tell them anything. | Jul 05 02:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The crime for profit thing should be a risk/benefit analysis. Most don't produce enough profit to be worth the risk, so you can just write them off as a bad idea to begin with. | Jul 05 02:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I don't understand sexual harassment and rape, period. Get a sex doll, pay a hooker, get on an app and find someone for the evening. There's plenty of people that will say yes. | Jul 05 02:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Who needs to go around committing sex crimes? | Jul 05 02:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | From a legal perspective, the best way to deal with the cops in any sort of interrogation is to shut the hell up. | Jul 05 02:11 |
| schestowitz | but they use tricks | Jul 05 02:11 |
| schestowitz | to trick people into talking | Jul 05 02:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So that's why I said he should have shut the hell up and gotten a lawyer. It's just what anyone who is being questioned by police officer should do. | Jul 05 02:11 |
| schestowitz | it can be by brutalising them | Jul 05 02:11 |
| schestowitz | or flashing lights at them | Jul 05 02:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yes. | Jul 05 02:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: They told me they'd throw me in prison for two years unless I confessed. | Jul 05 02:12 |
| schestowitz | so you say things to stop that | Jul 05 02:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then another one told me it could be disorderly conduct if I talked to them. | Jul 05 02:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I refused to talk and it was disorderly conduct. | Jul 05 02:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Okay, so why talk? It would have been the original charges if I talked. | Jul 05 02:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They're going to do as much damage as they can. They have no reason to be nice to you except as another tactic. | Jul 05 02:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | One of them brought me coffee and a sausage mcmuffin after the other one threatened to send me to priso. | Jul 05 02:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | *prison | Jul 05 02:14 |
| schestowitz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE | Jul 05 02:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-YouTube | Jul 05 02:14 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.youtube.com/redirect?v=d-7o9xYp7eE&event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbERSVlBpNmdXYVM0clA0UGpDRTNWYlRLdXhlQXxBQ3Jtc0tsM0FsNzgtUkhLbjRUOUJQaVp5REN1ZUl1NFQ2OC12OTNjcG1Zb2dTMlI1MU5nbGkyVVFkM0pIbnhWaWxwanBwcS1VVVl4TUJGM3d5T0xwRmhsdldlVVJ2MmJWX3VKcVVJczJRemdjZWRKcUc1emZJUQ%3D%3D&q=http%3A%2F%2Fpapers.ssrn.com%2Fsol3%2Fpapers.cfm%3Fabstract_id%3D1998119 | Jul 05 02:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-YouTube | Jul 05 02:14 | |
| schestowitz | hmm trackers... | Jul 05 02:14 |
| schestowitz | https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1998119 | Jul 05 02:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I did make casual conversation that was irrelevant. | Jul 05 02:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-papers.ssrn.com | The Right to Remain Silent: A New Answer to an Old Question by James J. Duane :: SSRN | Jul 05 02:14 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | I asked the one that was threatening me if he was an NWA fan. | Jul 05 02:14 |
| schestowitz | 5th amendement | Jul 05 02:15 |
| schestowitz | *amendment | Jul 05 02:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah. | Jul 05 02:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I was toying with them. | Jul 05 02:15 |
| schestowitz | NWA? | Jul 05 02:15 |
| schestowitz | "Fuck the police" | Jul 05 02:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Fuck The Police | Jul 05 02:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah. | Jul 05 02:15 |
| schestowitz | way to say to them the F word | Jul 05 02:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, without it being assault on a police officer. You say fuck you, asshole, that doesn't look good. | Jul 05 02:16 |
| akingu | schestowitz Jon Von Tetchner left Opera before it got sold to China | Jul 05 02:16 |
| schestowitz | so he's doing again what he did in opera | Jul 05 02:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I liked that Family Guy scene where they said "Read him his rights!" and he says "I'd like to read them myself. Chapter 1: Eat my ass, pigs!". | Jul 05 02:17 |
| akingu | The Vivaldi source code is open. Consequentially, you could say using CSS is a Wium Lie sold to China practice | Jul 05 02:17 |
| schestowitz | Watts v Indiana | Jul 05 02:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yes. | Jul 05 02:19 |
| akingu | DaemonFC[m]: The data on attractiveness and demographics of assault rape isn't even. | Jul 05 02:19 |
| schestowitz | akingu: parts of the code | Jul 05 02:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | John tried to make it worse by having my mom call the police station in a panic. | Jul 05 02:19 |
| schestowitz | not the whoel | Jul 05 02:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The GUI code is "viewable" because it's written in a human readable set of web languages that are rendered by the browser. | Jul 05 02:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | AFAIK. | Jul 05 02:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The ad blocker.... They took my suggestion and imported Brave Adblock and added more user control to it. | Jul 05 02:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's in Rust and under MPL 2. | Jul 05 02:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | A bigger problem than Vivaldi is all these web trackers. | Jul 05 02:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's better for as many browsers as possible to just poke these tracking companies in the eye so they'll, hopefully, be less profitable. | Jul 05 02:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | We probably won't ever win but getting all the browsers that aren't Chrome to at least do something by default, things might be better. | Jul 05 02:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's easy to change Vivaldi to block Trackers _and_ ads in general. Just click "Block Trackers and Ads". | Jul 05 02:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I don't believe it's possible to sort ads into ones that track and ones that don't, because who the hell knows what they really do on their end. | Jul 05 02:24 |
| akingu | I talked to the guy leading the browser effort at MS. He said having do not track by browser default destroyed the system | Jul 05 02:25 |
| akingu | In that such a system could not be viable. | Jul 05 02:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That was their intent, I'm certain. | Jul 05 02:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | By forcing it on in IE they made sure that nobody would ever respect it .The adtech people said it's not a user choice, look at Microsoft. | Jul 05 02:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Which is also an adtech.... | Jul 05 02:26 |
| cybrNaut | apparently they don't accept that the browser user is the sole master of their own tool | Jul 05 02:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Do Not Track is a bad thing to turn on. They use it as a Fingerprinting tool. | Jul 05 02:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Makes you less random. | Jul 05 02:27 |
| cybrNaut | the browser serves the user, and only the user. A browser that has other masters has a fool for a user | Jul 05 02:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Just napalm all of the ads, trackers, social network crap, etc. | Jul 05 02:27 |
| cybrNaut | it's only a fingerprinting tool *because* it's not a default | Jul 05 02:27 |
| cybrNaut | if DNT were on by default, the fingerprinting would impact those with DNT /off/ | Jul 05 02:28 |
| akingu | Not if it is the default | Jul 05 02:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's better to just flip ad blocking on and let the adtechs collapse again like they started to during the dotcom bust. | Jul 05 02:28 |
| cybrNaut | and we don't care if those who would disable DNT get fingerprinted | Jul 05 02:28 |
| akingu | Being sufficiently anonymous is just a practice of staying with the greater numbers | Jul 05 02:29 |
| akingu | That was a bad sentence, but you know what I meant | Jul 05 02:29 |
| akingu | cybrNaut: It is the lesser evil, agreed. Ideally it would be unlawful to do any tracking. | Jul 05 02:30 |
| cybrNaut | i recently pushed for a DNT default in #curl, of course because those who oppose fingerprinting are also the ones who want DNT on. The pushback was "you can add a DNT header yourself". Could not get through their thick skulls that it's the default that matters | Jul 05 02:31 |
| cybrNaut | so the users who don't care for privacy (those who wouldn't use DNT) are the ones who escape fingerprinting - which is ass backwards | Jul 05 02:32 |
| akingu | It changes the premise, yes | Jul 05 02:33 |
| cybrNaut | i guess the whole debate is moot w.r.t any Microsoft tools. There's no such thing as a user of MS products who truly values privacy | Jul 05 02:34 |
| akingu | That is a fallacy | Jul 05 02:35 |
| cybrNaut | you can't have both | Jul 05 02:35 |
| akingu | Using MS products does not mean even being aware that there is an alternative | Jul 05 02:36 |
| akingu | Sure | Jul 05 02:36 |
| akingu | I think the idea that privacy is good, and that people would like more of it, is more prevalent than the numbers MS products have | Jul 05 02:36 |
| akingu | So it becomes a ploy to provide something as convenient, without the spying. | Jul 05 02:36 |
| akingu | What can you buy retail, how can you get out of the 1 supplier chain, how can you not click through a bunch of EULAs. Can you get spare parts, schematics, etc. It is getting better I suppose | Jul 05 02:37 |
| akingu | Android had that convenience, and it was better,and it got popular. Now it is losing its advantage with spying apps etc. | Jul 05 02:39 |
| cybrNaut | first of all, anything you /buy/ from Microsoft supports a privacy abuser. The only way around that is to pirate or use their gratis products. How do you think they profit from gratis products? A) surveillance capitalism | Jul 05 02:39 |
| kingoffrance | re machavelli personality test, well i guess the proper response is: i dunno, is it true you just sit around and eat donuts all day? | Jul 05 02:39 |
| kingoffrance | thats what i heard...word on the street... | Jul 05 02:39 |
| akingu | I don't disagree, but LibreOffice is a thing, and year of the Linux decade on the desktop is last year | Jul 05 02:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Okay, writing Fedora 32 KDE to a thumbdrive. Finally. | Jul 05 02:40 |
| akingu | So how much better is RedHat governance than MS governance? | Jul 05 02:41 |
| akingu | Depends ultimately what the result is | Jul 05 02:42 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Edge crossed straight over into undeniable malware territory. | Jul 05 02:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Microsoft had no comment. | Jul 05 02:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The tech news was like "This is like something the Old Microsoft would do!" *gasp* | Jul 05 02:47 |
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| akingu | They moved the "Yes" button on Win10 upgrades over to "No", it isn't like they had anything to lose | Jul 05 02:48 |
| akingu | systemd and windows isn't gauged by its relative merit, other than if it sucks more than too much. | Jul 05 02:48 |
| akingu | The way to make it is the same thing that ensures a monolith company exists in that form | Jul 05 02:49 |
| akingu | And I should probably heed that with the social networks, but I have more faith in federation and migration than self-hosting for everyone as the alternative | Jul 05 02:50 |
| akingu | If it can suck but doesn't, it will, I suppose | Jul 05 02:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Fedora really needs a better partitioning tool. | Jul 05 03:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And KDE is still not optimized for hidpi by default. | Jul 05 03:25 |
| akingu | Isnt it called plasma now. I remember they were first to have something for it | Jul 05 03:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I might just throw GNOME back on it and redo the underlying file system as btrfs. | Jul 05 03:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The btrfs option seems more viable long term because of compress. Things in Linux are getting much bigger. | Jul 05 03:38 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC[m]: not exactly sure on the compress bit if that helps btrfs or not. "https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterprise_linux/7/html/storage_administration_guide/vdo" you have to remember the vdo work by redhat that will go behind xfs. | Jul 05 03:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-access.redhat.com | Part III. Data Deduplication and Compression with VDO Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7 | Red Hat Customer Portal | Jul 05 03:43 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Ext4's advantages I guess are that it's basically a fancy Ext2. | Jul 05 03:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's been around forever and it's stable. | Jul 05 03:57 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC[m]: Xfs lead developer in 2012 when benchmarking the heck out of ext4 found a lot of the new extentions in ext4 are not compatible with each other so even in 2012 ext4 was not perfectly stable. | Jul 05 05:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I might switch the system over to KDE tomorrow. | Jul 05 06:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I liked the general performance of the LiveCD. | Jul 05 06:00 |
| psydread | > [notice] @crystalshen6: 😮 Here is a techie on YouTube with a more recent story, one of IT industry persecution & going by "GaryKildall". It… https://t.co/cN5HGDD9Wm | Jul 05 06:02 |
| psydread | I've been wondering about Windows and ReactOS too and considered several possibilities: 1) work on ReactOS strengthens the Microsoft ecosystem by putting more of it in people's faces, so it should be avoided if possible 2) a better ReactOS becomes a replacement for spyware-laden Windows and will over time hurt Microsoft in terms of numbers of users and finances (compare GNU/Linux vs closed-source Unix | Jul 05 06:02 |
| psydread | ) 3) port all applications to GNU/Linux or write replacements and let the marketplace decide on the time and place of death of Windows | Jul 05 06:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@crystalshen6: 😮 Here is a techie on YouTube with a more recent story, one of IT industry persecution & going by "GaryKildall". It… https://t.co/cN5HGDD9Wm | Jul 05 06:02 | |
| oiaohm | Reactos is also in a possible freedos place where it will be use to run legacy windows stuff after windows is dead as well. | Jul 05 06:04 |
| psydread | yes, but what is the advantage over Wine, if the latter runs everything too? | Jul 05 06:05 |
| oiaohm | reactos I would say is closer to freedos vs msdos than gnu/linux vs closed source Unix. remember gnu/linux is not exactly unix and was more than willing to break Unix ideas where it helpped things. Freedos was modeled after compadiblity with msdos. | Jul 05 06:06 |
| oiaohm | Legancy windows only hardware drivers. Wine does not help with that. | Jul 05 06:06 |
| psydread | I just remember posting in the ReactOS forums once and getting the response that they want ReactOS to do everything exactly as Windows does | Jul 05 06:07 |
| psydread | yes, so basically only interesting on x86 (32-bit and 64-bit) | Jul 05 06:07 |
| oiaohm | There are wacky arm based hardware that windows run on with odd ball drivers. | Jul 05 06:08 |
| oiaohm | So legacy crud. | Jul 05 06:08 |
| oiaohm | psydread: remember windows RT Arm devices. | Jul 05 06:09 |
| psydread | I only heard of those more recently and never knew they were a thing | Jul 05 06:09 |
| psydread | so Windows-only hardware drivers, what hardware are we talking about here? | Jul 05 06:11 |
| oiaohm | psydread: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_RT#Return_of_ARM_and_app_limitations there was less than 10 devices in the Windows RT devices. Some of those still have parts that don't work if you put linux on them. | Jul 05 06:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Windows RT - Wikipedia | Jul 05 06:12 | |
| oiaohm | So not knowing about Windows RT arm devices is not exactly strange thinking how few came to market. | Jul 05 06:12 |
| psydread | oiaohm, I know about the new Windows on ARM devices, but wonder why I shouldn't consider them defective by design and avoid them, considering all the ARM hardware out there that is made to run Linux or at least doesn't prevent it from running on it | Jul 05 06:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They found an exploit that got around Secure Boot, but never got Linux working on them. | Jul 05 06:16 |
| psydread | this is also where a ReactOS ARM64 effort could take hold as in preventing Windows from ever gaining a foothold in that new category of devices, but as it currently stands Microsoft is doing a good enough job of that itself by limiting its availability to expensive devices based on Qualcomm chips | Jul 05 06:17 |
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| schestowitz | [03:26] <akingu> Isnt it called plasma now. I remember they were first to have something for it | Jul 05 08:08 |
| schestowitz | not the same thing | Jul 05 08:08 |
| schestowitz | there was also KDE | Jul 05 08:08 |
| schestowitz | KDE SC | Jul 05 08:08 |
| schestowitz | software compilation | Jul 05 08:08 |
| schestowitz | that branding did not last long | Jul 05 08:08 |
| schestowitz | among others | Jul 05 08:08 |
| schestowitz | KDE eventually stuck | Jul 05 08:08 |
| schestowitz | plasma is the shell | Jul 05 08:09 |
| schestowitz | kde is the umbrella | Jul 05 08:09 |
| schestowitz | for instance, krita is kde | Jul 05 08:09 |
| schestowitz | like nano is gnu | Jul 05 08:09 |
| schestowitz | but krita does not depend on plasma or even on gnu/linux | Jul 05 08:09 |
| schestowitz | just qt and some interfaces | Jul 05 08:09 |
| schestowitz | plasma is itself a kde component | Jul 05 08:09 |
| schestowitz | kde is now a misnomer | Jul 05 08:09 |
| schestowitz | as it's much more than a "DE", a desktop env | Jul 05 08:10 |
| schestowitz | there's also kwin | Jul 05 08:10 |
| schestowitz | and you can swap its backend engine | Jul 05 08:10 |
| schestowitz | and soon kwin can become its needless fork, which martin is NOT happy with | Jul 05 08:10 |
| schestowitz | grasslin | Jul 05 08:10 |
| schestowitz | KDE is, still, the most recognisable "brand" | Jul 05 08:11 |
| schestowitz | and it's associates with lots of use power and most options (customising everything) | Jul 05 08:11 |
| schestowitz | plasma and kde are not closely tied | Jul 05 08:12 |
| schestowitz | as you can use openbox in its place.. or could do when I last checked, so there are variant | Jul 05 08:12 |
| schestowitz | *variant | Jul 05 08:12 |
| schestowitz | *->variants | Jul 05 08:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Okay, I got Fedora 32 KDE installed on btrfs and zstd compression on all the files (forced and then compressed all the existing files). | Jul 05 08:20 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | The compression made a really big difference on my root subvolume. | Jul 05 09:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It cut the RPM files installed to service Wine from 1.5 GB to about 900 MB. | Jul 05 09:09 |
| schestowitz | good | Jul 05 09:10 |
| schestowitz | progress made on the google thing? | Jul 05 09:10 |
| schestowitz | (no hurry needed) | Jul 05 09:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Scratch that.... About 700 MB. It cleaned up the installed packages. | Jul 05 09:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Oh working on the laptop. I'll be restoring things from backups. | Jul 05 09:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It was getting tight quarters on the SSD. | Jul 05 09:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Decided to toss out GNOME while I was fixing this problem anyway. | Jul 05 09:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | foobar2000 1.6 finally drops Windows XP and Vista. A 1.5 legacy branch will be retained indefinitely. | Jul 05 09:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'll have to see how this affects me in Wine. | Jul 05 09:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Wow. KDE has gotten a lot better. | Jul 05 09:18 |
| schestowitz | :D | Jul 05 09:19 |
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| oiaohm | DaemonFC[m]: there will most likely come that the legacy branch will have some security fault that is not fixed. | Jul 05 09:28 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | <oiaohm "DaemonFC: there will most likely"> At least you can make software for old version of Windows if you want. Apple makes this so hard that few bother. | Jul 05 09:34 |
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| kingoffrance | it strikes me kind of funny it is about inclusivity but not just that, efficiency | Jul 05 14:34 |
| kingoffrance | that strikes me as they know they are stretching | Jul 05 14:34 |
| kingoffrance | "efficiency" meaning someone less offended will get up to speed quicker | Jul 05 14:34 |
| kingoffrance | also, not a good role model perhaps | Jul 05 14:34 |
| kingoffrance | isnt there a cliche about patton or some military guy constantly cussing -- because people *remember* what to do | Jul 05 14:34 |
| kingoffrance | anyways | Jul 05 14:35 |
| kingoffrance | they supposedly didnt forget his pep talks | Jul 05 14:35 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | There are still people using Windows XP somehow. | Jul 05 17:31 |
| schestowitz | like trump's gp | Jul 05 17:32 |
| schestowitz | in 2016 | Jul 05 17:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm surprised that there's a Firefox for ancient Mac OS unofficial port, but not Windows XP, which is about the same age. | Jul 05 17:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | These Flatpaks are so massive that I was just running out of tricks to throw at getting them on my computer. | Jul 05 17:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Seems Facebook actually is useful for something. ZStandard | Jul 05 17:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Facebook says that they got really good at getting rid of hate speech before users could even report it. | Jul 05 17:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They missed half my mom's friends. | Jul 05 17:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Shoot protesters in the head. That'll teach em!" | Jul 05 17:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Things like that. | Jul 05 17:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I just can't stand the constant vampire-like drain on me of being on Facebook and running into retards like that on my "feed" or when I'm trying to look at the news. | Jul 05 17:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Here's a story about a million people dying of COVID and some old fuck from out in the sticks somewhere is posting Trump memes so nobody can comment on it. | Jul 05 17:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Just leave and let them have it. | Jul 05 17:38 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I was looking at ZFS, but the code doesn't strike me as very Linux-ey. | Jul 05 17:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I mean, for starters there's the license, but when you move past that, they didn't actually port it to Linux. There's an abstraction layer that it uses so that the driver cans still use Solaris APIs and it just shims them up to the Linux kernel, which is something that XFS used to have before they banged on it and hooked it up properly to the VFS and such. | Jul 05 17:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Since it will never be merged, nobody managing the Linux kernel will ever do a code review on it. | Jul 05 17:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | btrfs seems to handle certain cases better. Like, it checks to see if data is corrupt before it commits it to the storage, which....I don't know why you would ever want that. ;) And it heals itself usually. So there's that. | Jul 05 17:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If you have RAID backups, it will delete a corrupt file and swap it out with a good one, but if you don't, at least it will know it's corrupt and won't just hand it to an application that goes "What the hell is this crap?" *crash* | Jul 05 17:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Oddly, Firefox seems to find itself more at home with KDE than it does in GNOME. | Jul 05 18:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The KDE Integration extension really helps. | Jul 05 18:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm getting some sort of media playback error with Falkon when I try to play an mp4 video on a website. | Jul 05 18:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.zdnet.com/article/linux-kernel-gets-another-option-to-disable-spectre-mitigations/ | Jul 05 18:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux kernel gets another option to disable Spectre mitigations | ZDNet | Jul 05 18:22 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Doesn't mention Intel by name and it doesn't mention that Windows has all the same mitigations with the same rough performance drop. | Jul 05 18:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Not all of them are exclusive to Intel, but the very worst ones are. | Jul 05 18:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | ZStandard compressioon on Flatpak. | Jul 05 18:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Or how I stopped worrying and learned to love the bomb. | Jul 05 18:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | A lot of these libraries turn out to be extremely well suited for compression. | Jul 05 18:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I don't know why I didn't think of this before. | Jul 05 18:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I was running into two problems really. 1. Ext4 has no native file compression support and 2. LVM forces a hard barrier between / and /home if you want the data on different volumes. | Jul 05 18:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Since btrfs is its own volume manager, it can put / and /home on different subvolumes, but draw the storage out of a unified pool. | Jul 05 18:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So there's no worry about "Is / to big? Should I try to steal like 10 GB to deal with some of this problem I'm having on /home? What's going on here? If I do that and install very many more Flatpaks, I'll need more space on /, and I might have plenty sitting there on /home!". | Jul 05 18:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Fedora's default setup is to put 62.5 GB on / on Ext4 on LVM and the rest on /home on Ext4 on the LVM. | Jul 05 18:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So usually what you end up with is that you're not going to use more than 30-35 GB of / and the rest is just sitting there and cannot possibly be used for anything else, ever, unless you resize it, and then you don't know you won't need more later. | Jul 05 18:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So as much as half of your filesystem root is sitting there untouched and /home might need more space than you have. | Jul 05 18:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It might seem nuts to worry about that, except 512 GB SSD. Not 8 TB hard drive. | Jul 05 18:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | 30 GB is a larger amount of the total space of /home than it would be on a hard disk. | Jul 05 18:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then Flatpak is this other mess. | Jul 05 18:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So not only is / over there and its requirements unknown, you deal with these Flatpak things that are rather large, with their own dependencies. | Jul 05 18:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Not a good situation on a laptop SSD. | Jul 05 18:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So enter ZStandard on btrfs. If you get really aggressive and tell it "Compress all the things!", a standard install of Fedora right out of the box drops from about 7.5 GB to about 4. :) | Jul 05 18:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Presumably not all of your files on /home are going to be extremely good candidates for compression, but your / probably will (lots of libraries and executables and text and junk). It's not something you have to apply on your /home if you don't want to, so you could just do it on the / subvolume to keep the size under some sort of control and free space up. | Jul 05 18:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Believe it or not, Windows 10 actually gave me this idea. | Jul 05 18:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Using NTFS file system compression, Microsoft was able to hide the real size of Windows 10 by almost 20 GB. A lot of that was WinSxS. | Jul 05 18:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The last time I used disk compression it was under DOS with Microosft's DoubleSpace/DriveSpace software. It made the file system a lot less reliable because it put everything into one compressed file then mounted it as C. | Jul 05 18:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They also got sued over that because they pretended to be interested in a program called Stacker that did this, and then stole the source code and shipped it as DoubleSpace. | Jul 05 18:56 |
| scientes | XRevan86, http://bunniefoo.com/bunnie/zipper/zip-full-auto-720p.ogv | Jul 05 19:14 |
| scientes | very satisfying | Jul 05 19:14 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Not a complicated machine | Jul 05 19:29 |
| scientes | there is a larger philosophy behind it https://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=4364 | Jul 05 19:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bunniestudios.com | A Tale of Two Zippers « bunnie's blog | Jul 05 19:30 | |
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| XRevan86 | > "Grandfathering" is an offensive term. Apparently. Now uncle and aunt must go too? https://patentlyo.com/patent/2020/07/more-aunt-jemima.html | Jul 05 20:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | One more on Aunt Jemima | Patently-O | Jul 05 20:16 | |
| XRevan86 | By a strange coincidence I just saw it in use. | Jul 05 20:16 |
| XRevan86 | And I couldn't figure it out what it means before reading up in the dictionary. | Jul 05 20:17 |
| XRevan86 | https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/grandfather_clause#English | Jul 05 20:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wiktionary.org | grandfather clause - Wiktionary | Jul 05 20:17 | |
| scientes | grandfather clauses are constant when the pyramid scheme expands | Jul 05 20:18 |
| scientes | one common practice is to need 3 more years of school for a profession every 3 years | Jul 05 20:18 |
| XRevan86 | Anyway, it's not innocent, it's a term linked to oppressive past of the US South. And it's obscure %). | Jul 05 20:23 |
| scientes | XRevan86, I don't see why that is the etymology | Jul 05 20:27 |
| scientes | XRevan86, it is just a "appear to tradition" term | Jul 05 20:27 |
| scientes | *appeal | Jul 05 20:27 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Well, it makes sense. | Jul 05 20:28 |
| XRevan86 | The context in which I saw it used is to whitelist everyone who was registered before some date. | Jul 05 20:28 |
| XRevan86 | so the rule is only for new registrations, to avoid making issues for existing users | Jul 05 20:29 |
| scientes | yes, that is the whole point | Jul 05 20:30 |
| scientes | the US is built on that type of selfishness | Jul 05 20:30 |
| XRevan86 | How do you link that to grandfathers? "but exempted those whose grandfathers had the right to vote before the Civil War" – that's how. | Jul 05 20:30 |
| scientes | and assholeisms | Jul 05 20:30 |
| scientes | and "I'm-better-than-you" stuff | Jul 05 20:30 |
| scientes | but I think so is most human society | Jul 05 20:31 |
| scientes | that is why the Russian dismissive thing is interesting | Jul 05 20:31 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: As for it being offensive, I think that terms like that might even serve as a reminder that this shit happened. | Jul 05 20:32 |
| XRevan86 | But I do dislike that it's not self-explanatory even a little | Jul 05 20:32 |
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| scientes | XRevan86, the southerners never are | Jul 05 20:33 |
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| scientes | that's what Borat is making fun of when he brings a plastic bag of shit from the toilet and asks his southern guests what he should do with it | Jul 05 20:33 |
| scientes | *hosts | Jul 05 20:34 |
| AVRS | scientes: what is Russian dismissive? | Jul 05 20:34 |
| scientes | dismissiveness | Jul 05 20:34 |
| scientes | XRevan86, you can handle this question | Jul 05 20:34 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Not really, I think you take it too seriously %) | Jul 05 20:35 |
| *AVRS thought it was some grammar thing | Jul 05 20:35 | |
| XRevan86 | AVRS: No, it's a cultural thing | Jul 05 20:35 |
| scientes | it is a cultural thing | Jul 05 20:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Okay, I had to edit my KDE app menu to get it to run foobar2000. Meh. | Jul 05 20:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Also, there seems to be a hang instead of logout bug. | Jul 05 20:39 |
| AVRS | scientes, XRevan86: I can only imagine what you mean, but examples? | Jul 05 20:43 |
| AVRS | There was a post in an AliExpress subreddit, complaining about a Russian question about a good: "Is coronavirus included?" Someone wrote: "He's Russian, that explains it." Someone else replied to that: "That's racist." - "Russian is not a race" | Jul 05 20:48 |
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| XRevan86 | AVRS: heh | Jul 05 20:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But of course. | Jul 05 20:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | SDDM bugs. | Jul 05 20:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, it's fixed in a Koji build. | Jul 05 20:52 |
| AVRS | There was also a [1/5*] review: "I received it, but I am afraid to open it due to the virus". Maybe makes sense if it's true that the only review update permits increasing the rating and not decreasing. | Jul 05 20:53 |
| XRevan86 | AVRS: That sounds genuinely stupid. | Jul 05 20:54 |
| AVRS | XRevan86: yes. | Jul 05 20:54 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Okay, so I pulled the latest sddm package from Koji and jammed it in there and restarted. | Jul 05 20:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Logout works properly now. Hooray! | Jul 05 20:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | How very Fedora. | Jul 05 20:55 |
| AVRS | DaemonFC[m]: why are you using foobar2000? | Jul 05 20:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's an easy way to deal with WavPack files in bulk. | Jul 05 20:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Lots of stuff on Linux plays them. You can make them in bulk with FFmpeg's WavPack encoder. | Jul 05 20:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But it's just "easy". | Jul 05 20:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I crammed in a Win64 build of upstream WavPack and FLAC.exe in there to speed things up a bit. | Jul 05 20:57 |
| XRevan86 | AVRS: You may also be interested in this concept: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_avos%27 | Jul 05 20:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Russian avos' - Wikipedia | Jul 05 20:58 | |
| scientes | XRevan86, interesting | Jul 05 20:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Wine helps me run a few Windows applications I actually do like. | Jul 05 20:59 |
| scientes | DaemonFC[m], I only like windows apps after drinking a few cups of wine | Jul 05 20:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Without Wine I probably would never have moved over to Linux so I think it's good, overall. | Jul 05 20:59 |
| psydread | haha | Jul 05 20:59 |
| psydread | I wonder which Windows applications are still worth running | Jul 05 21:00 |
| AVRS | XRevan86: do you mean that that "dismissiveness" is not "cultural insensitivity", but avos'? | Jul 05 21:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Okay, I added an Open Folder with DeaDBeeF option to Dolphin. B-) | Jul 05 21:00 |
| psydread | because I don't even know what those are | Jul 05 21:00 |
| scientes | AVRS, it certainly is not "cultural insensitivity" at least in the US-sense of the term | Jul 05 21:00 |
| scientes | that term is all about liberal "holier-than-thou" attitude | Jul 05 21:01 |
| XRevan86 | AVRS: No, just something I remembered while thinking about that stuff. | Jul 05 21:03 |
| AVRS | Dismissiveness of what might happen to oneself, not not caring about others' feelings. | Jul 05 21:03 |
| AVRS | because it could happen no matter what | Jul 05 21:03 |
| XRevan86 | AVRS: What scientes means by that is that Russians, at least to my experience, don't have a tendency of being worked up over what opinions other people have. | Jul 05 21:04 |
| XRevan86 | Maybe it's just because there isn't as much social tension. | Jul 05 21:05 |
| scientes | ahhhh, I fucking hate autotools | Jul 05 21:05 |
| scientes | the only way to deal with it is reverse-engineering style | Jul 05 21:05 |
| scientes | which I fucking hate | Jul 05 21:05 |
| XRevan86 | "the enemy is in our mindst", that kind of thing | Jul 05 21:05 |
| scientes | I hate shit that is impossible to understand of debug | Jul 05 21:05 |
| XRevan86 | * midst | Jul 05 21:05 |
| *psydread has never used autotools and will never use it for any of his own projects | Jul 05 21:06 | |
| scientes | psydread, yeah but sometimes you need to modify other people's code | Jul 05 21:07 |
| scientes | the worst part is that you are doing something that literally no-body cares about | Jul 05 21:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Whoa. I added almost 4 GB worth of software and only down by 1.9 GB. Sweet! | Jul 05 21:10 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139534 [https://pleroma.site/objects/312dbeee-f3c3-4698-94d6-9641615721f5] | Jul 05 21:12 | |
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| DaemonFC[m] | 100,000 adblock rules ought to be enough for Phoronix articles about WSL2, don't you think | Jul 05 21:15 |
| schestowitz | phoronix has full of bad code | Jul 05 21:17 |
| schestowitz | malicious ads and stuff | Jul 05 21:17 |
| schestowitz | so I link to it less this past yea | Jul 05 21:17 |
| schestowitz | *year | Jul 05 21:17 |
| scientes | auto because autocrap is macros the errors always wait till the laste minute and are super hard to debug | Jul 05 21:17 |
| schestowitz | [20:16] <XRevan86> > "Grandfathering" is an offensive term. Apparently. Now uncle and aunt must go too? https://patentlyo.com/patent/2020/07/more-aunt-jemima.html | Jul 05 21:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | One more on Aunt Jemima | Patently-O | Jul 05 21:18 | |
| schestowitz | I think only if the person referred to is African American | Jul 05 21:18 |
| schestowitz | apparently calling them like a family member and not "n***er" is also too bad | Jul 05 21:19 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: It's not the same thing. | Jul 05 21:19 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: "grandfather" as a verb is US law slang that got into IT. | Jul 05 21:20 |
| XRevan86 | "Exemption from new legislation or regulations." | Jul 05 21:21 |
| scientes | make[1]: [Makefile:291: libnettle.so] Error 1 (ignored) | Jul 05 21:23 |
| scientes | WHERE???? | Jul 05 21:23 |
| scientes | who could make suck a piece of shit? | Jul 05 21:23 |
| psydread | that's often my issue too | Jul 05 21:23 |
| psydread | and I'm life wtf | Jul 05 21:23 |
| psydread | and I have to google lots of pages to figure out what could be the problem | Jul 05 21:23 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Now it would be funny if after that they do go after all mentions of "grandfather", like they did with "master" %) | Jul 05 21:24 |
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| psydread | XRevan86, how many children did you grandfather? 😀 | Jul 05 21:25 |
| XRevan86 | psydroid: That's proper English, can't argue with a dictionary :D | Jul 05 21:26 |
| scientes | XRevan86, English people argue with dictionaries all the time | Jul 05 21:26 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Just kidding, I'm not ever saying that %) | Jul 05 21:27 |
| scientes | straight out of 1984 | Jul 05 21:27 |
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| scientes | attack the language | Jul 05 21:27 |
| scientes | open this, open that | Jul 05 21:27 |
| scientes | the truth is usually 180deg | Jul 05 21:29 |
| scientes | Microsoft Walls | Jul 05 21:29 |
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| AVRS | Did RMS and his critics both fail to understand the possible links between RMS' news reading and addiction on one hand, and possibility of sex addiction in children on the other hand, so RMS couldn't see the issue in his understanding of news and his critics couldn't see how they could explain the issue to him? | Jul 05 21:53 |
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| AVRS | (don't mistranspose the way I described the "links"…) | Jul 05 21:53 |
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| scientes | only read enough from you | Jul 05 21:55 |
| AVRS | ? | Jul 05 21:55 |
| AVRS | scientes: I don't understand what you said at all | Jul 05 21:56 |
| AVRS | and I don't know how to word what I mean short enough | Jul 05 21:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think the overall shitty Linux experience with WavPack is just that the open source people tend to get NIH as bad as Apple or Microsoft do. | Jul 05 21:58 |
| AVRS | scientes: I mean, someone who knows he is addicted to something probably can understand that someone else can develop an addiction in something else, if told about that. | Jul 05 21:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | FLAC is simply inferior in every way except that it would decode a bit faster if that actually mattered on anything semi-recent. | Jul 05 21:59 |
| schestowitz | let's see if I can merge the missing bits from irc after this netsplit storm... from multiple machines | Jul 05 21:59 |
| AVRS | scientes: I think I've seen a quote of RMS mentioning something like being addicted to news, maybe at TechRights | Jul 05 22:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | David Bryant open sourced it a long time ago, so the licensing situation is basically the same, only WavPack handles just about every potential use case and has better compression ratios than FLAC. | Jul 05 22:00 |
| schestowitz | doesn't ring a bell | Jul 05 22:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | JuK in KDE could support WavPack if they wanted to. GStreamer has a decoder for it, it's just not recognized at the application level. Oh well. | Jul 05 22:01 |
| AVRS | scientes: where he said something like he doesn't do much of free software stuff because news is addictive | Jul 05 22:01 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | <AVRS "scientes: I think I've seen a qu"> He seems overly concerned with tilting at windmills, politically. | Jul 05 22:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | A person who cared anything about this country would quit pretending that Howie Whathisnuts can win the presidency on a Green Party ticket that isn't even on the ballot in enough states to get 270 electoral votes, in theory. | Jul 05 22:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This country quite literally doesn't have 4 years left in it under Trump, and that is a fact. | Jul 05 22:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | RMS is a narcissistic control freak who throws a fit if he can't have everything he wants. In life, when can you? | Jul 05 22:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Quite frankly, his defense of Epstein was a serious What The Actual Fuck moment. | Jul 05 22:03 |
| AVRS | DaemonFC[m]: er, he didn't defend Epstein | Jul 05 22:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The problem with RMS being gone is that the FSF has had their brains scooped out by proprietary software companies, so we're not better on that front. | Jul 05 22:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Nobody is going to step up that actually gives a damn about open source software, much less software freedom. | Jul 05 22:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The FSF is lost and utterly ruined. | Jul 05 22:05 |
| libertybox | <scientes> attack the language | Jul 05 22:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Part of the reason I switched to KDE and figured it out despite the aggravation of flipping everything around and learning how to use my computer again is because the GNOME Foundation has been taken over with Codes of Conduct and Reverse Racism and SJWs (oh my) and they're letting the actual software fall apart. | Jul 05 22:06 |
| AVRS | DaemonFC[m]: (I was going to also say "maybe he would defend Epstein if he had read different news about him", but that's as meaningless as the percentage of difference) | Jul 05 22:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | These fucking SJWs act like white people are a cancer and that anything bad that happens to us is well deserved over something that happened 200 fucking years ago and not even committed by us, but that's an aside. | Jul 05 22:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So let me see if I follow this. I owe reparations for something I didn't do, to someone who didn't have it done to them? Well, how very "Judge a man by the content of his character!" of you! | Jul 05 22:08 |
| AVRS | 70 years ago (it's the US) | Jul 05 22:08 |
| AVRS | But that's like blaming Germany | Jul 05 22:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | My grandfather on my dad's side was present and cheering on a lynching. I didn't do that. | Jul 05 22:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, you know, people in Germany. Their grandparents, some of them, were Nazis. | Jul 05 22:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | People like Stallman are a lot of the reason we got Trump. | Jul 05 22:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They're out there supporting all of these fringe joke candidates and encouraging other people to throw their vote away instead of holding their nose and going "Well, these are the choices.". | Jul 05 22:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He's complaining about a problem that he helped cause. | Jul 05 22:10 |
| *XRevan86 thinks that the US should pay reparations in a sense, in a form of smoothening social disparity out. | Jul 05 22:11 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | There were states where Jill Stein protest votes were more than the margin of Trump's win. | Jul 05 22:11 |
| AVRS | Are there choices? Well, he has supported both Republicans and Democrats and what did he get? | Jul 05 22:11 |
| XRevan86 | By making healthcare and education affordable and stuff like that. | Jul 05 22:11 |
| AVRS | But I have no idea, so I shut up. | Jul 05 22:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I vote Green downballot sometimes, but the problem with ballot access laws is that they'll run candidates for governor here in Illinois sometimes that can't win but give us people like Bruce Rauner. | Jul 05 22:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The system does suck. | Jul 05 22:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Republicans have turned into a full blown Nazi Party though. | Jul 05 22:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | We still have people who think that Howie so and so will win and give us the Green New Deal, even though they're only on the ballot in half the states. | Jul 05 22:13 |
| XRevan86 | Why isn't there an outcry about fixing the electoral system? | Jul 05 22:14 |
| XRevan86 | So many outcries, but things that are real and matter – no, that no one touches. | Jul 05 22:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, it is what it is, and screaming about it and making an even bigger problem is what guys like RMS are doing here. | Jul 05 22:15 |
| XRevan86 | > it is what it is | Jul 05 22:16 |
| AVRS | Correction, I guess: he didn't support Republicans, but criticised Democrats. | Jul 05 22:16 |
| XRevan86 | It should be changed. | Jul 05 22:16 |
| AVRS | when they turned out to, as opposed to Republicans who were too conservative, support corporations | Jul 05 22:16 |
| XRevan86 | Something like "most elections around the world have a second tour, why doesn't the US?" | Jul 05 22:16 |
| AVRS | IIRC. | Jul 05 22:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Good luck with that. | Jul 05 22:17 |
| XRevan86 | Some kind of campaign against punishing diversity in elections. | Jul 05 22:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If it changes much more it will be because the Republicans have finished turning it into something from Russia or China. | Jul 05 22:17 |
| XRevan86 | Diversity is a great word. | Jul 05 22:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It was old people, and stupid old people in particular, that gave us Trump. | Jul 05 22:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's also stupid old people who laugh about the virus and then everyone at church gets the Hoax somehow. | Jul 05 22:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So I think the virus might actually improve things. | Jul 05 22:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It can go "introduce them to God" and they can leave me the hell alone and quit ruining this country. | Jul 05 22:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Everyone wins. | Jul 05 22:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The faster it spread the sooner it's over. So am I bothered about this? Not much. | Jul 05 22:22 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: A funny thing about mentally challenged is that they're usually more consolidated. | Jul 05 22:22 |
| XRevan86 | easier to collect under one banner | Jul 05 22:23 |
| XRevan86 | and those who do win, in these kinds of elections | Jul 05 22:23 |
| AVRS | XRevan86: you used a euphemism that's more like a disphemism | Jul 05 22:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Everyone at my mom's church started shunning her because she "didn't believe God would protect her from the virus", obviously. So she'll hedge her bets when her own skin is in the game. They didn't. They all got it. | Jul 05 22:24 |
| XRevan86 | AVRS: I collected them all under one banner :P | Jul 05 22:24 |
| AVRS | XRevan86: you could just say "stupid" | Jul 05 22:25 |
| XRevan86 | AVRS: Not necessarily stupid, just you know, below average. | Jul 05 22:25 |
| AVRS | XRevan86: where is average? | Jul 05 22:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Anyone who obsesses about gay people enough to protest it that much is probably part fag themselves. | Jul 05 22:26 |
| XRevan86 | There's another group that's always consolidated – that which already has the power. | Jul 05 22:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Like they'll preach about it in church and then go home and beat off in the shower thinking about men. | Jul 05 22:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Or underage boys, why not? While they're projecting and saying we're pedos. | Jul 05 22:26 |
| XRevan86 | Because opposition has all kinds of people but The Party is one. | Jul 05 22:27 |
| XRevan86 | So the elections that allow a minority to win not only promote the dumber but also kill rotation of power. | Jul 05 22:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "We're the good guys. We're so good that we have to stand around thinking about how to marginalize, villainize, and kill people who aren't bothering anyone. See how Godly we are?" | Jul 05 22:28 |
| CrystalMath | DaemonFC[m]: okay but... the democrats in congress blocked Trump's decision to withdraw troops from Avghanistan | Jul 05 22:29 |
| CrystalMath | *Afghanistan | Jul 05 22:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I can't believe there are people who still take this shit seriously. | Jul 05 22:29 |
| CrystalMath | that is NOT telling me that the democrats aren't precisely the kind of evil that i know them to be | Jul 05 22:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Like, you don't have to be in charge of landing the fucking Mars probe to be smart enough to realize the church is evil bullshit. | Jul 05 22:30 |
| CrystalMath | which is why, i would rather have a billion Trumps in the US | Jul 05 22:30 |
| CrystalMath | i would rather have Grand Emperor Trump | Jul 05 22:30 |
| CrystalMath | than another day of democrats in power in the US (and thus the world) | Jul 05 22:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Like, even if your IQ is 95 or so...... How's your life going? Really. | Jul 05 22:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | People living in a tent under the bridge. | Jul 05 22:30 |
| XRevan86 | Just having a second tour allows the people to go wider at least in the first tour. | Jul 05 22:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You know. | Jul 05 22:30 |
| CrystalMath | so what is everyone's comment here about congress blocking Trump's decision to withdraw troops from Afghanistan? | Jul 05 22:31 |
| XRevan86 | It's still not that great, but compared to the simplest winner-take-all elections, it's a peach. | Jul 05 22:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Comrade Putin's Bounty Hunt | Jul 05 22:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Trump didn't think it was important even though he wasn't briefed on it.... See how that works? | Jul 05 22:31 |
| CrystalMath | why would you need a reason to withdraw your troops from a country you illegally invaded? | Jul 05 22:32 |
| CrystalMath | and destroyed | Jul 05 22:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So if he wasn't briefed on it, how did he come to the conclusion that it wasn't important? | Jul 05 22:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Oh, three days before his term ends, he'll probably get on Air Force One and defect to Russia. | Jul 05 22:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | When his term ends, the state of New York will probably go after him. | Jul 05 22:33 |
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| CrystalMath | if i was president of the US i would withdraw those troops and i would say that there is no possible reason that could required to withdraw ILLEGALLY placed troops in another sovereign country that americans DESTROYED | Jul 05 22:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So he'll be leaving while there's still nobody who can stop him. | Jul 05 22:33 |
| CrystalMath | *could be | Jul 05 22:33 |
| CrystalMath | i hope america burns in hell for a thousand years, a thousand for every DAY those troops stayed in afghanistan | Jul 05 22:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Uh, well, I didn't get asked whether I wanted that. | Jul 05 22:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I was 17 at the time. | Jul 05 22:34 |
| CrystalMath | and yet you support democrats who just blocked those troops from leaving | Jul 05 22:35 |
| CrystalMath | i mean, DemonRats | Jul 05 22:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's like saying you hope someone nukes Hong Kong because China has a shitty government that can't be stopped. | Jul 05 22:35 |
| CrystalMath | democrats ARE the horror of america | Jul 05 22:35 |
| CrystalMath | and the world | Jul 05 22:35 |
| CrystalMath | democrats are the whole problem | Jul 05 22:35 |
| CrystalMath | they always were the whole problem | Jul 05 22:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The only ones who ever really voted against Afghanistan were some Democrats. | Jul 05 22:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The support for the war was unanimous among Republicans. | Jul 05 22:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Trump has no interest in stopping illegal wars. | Jul 05 22:36 |
| CrystalMath | Trump was a democrat at the time :P | Jul 05 22:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If you give him half a chance, we'll invade Venezuela as soon as this virus calms down. | Jul 05 22:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Never underestimate evil people running a government in shambles whose economy is dying. | Jul 05 22:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | cough Putin | Jul 05 22:37 |
| CrystalMath | but i don't think he was ever pro-war, he seemd to have strong libertarian beliefs in the 2000s | Jul 05 22:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Trump doesn't believe in anything except enriching himself and walking away from his bills. | Jul 05 22:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Raping women. | Jul 05 22:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Seeing which way the wind blows and telling idiots what they want to hear. | Jul 05 22:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | His poll numbers are collapsing. | Jul 05 22:38 |
| CrystalMath | well i know the "me first" principle that Trump has, unfortunately | Jul 05 22:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If he managed to win an election with -15 net approval and 10 points behind his rival.... | Jul 05 22:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It was fake. | Jul 05 22:39 |
| CrystalMath | wasn't the probability of hillary winning like 80%? | Jul 05 22:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | She never had a lead like this. | Jul 05 22:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Also, it pretty much collapsed near the end. | Jul 05 22:39 |
| CrystalMath | Trump could still save the world if he wins again | Jul 05 22:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Something like an email server wouldn't really register. Trump is desperately trying to figure out what he can use on Biden that's worse than "I fucked up this country so bad it will never recover and let the Coronavirus in!". | Jul 05 22:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But he's coming up a bit short. | Jul 05 22:40 |
| CrystalMath | especially if congress flips red | Jul 05 22:40 |
| CrystalMath | well Biden said 150 million died of gun crime, and 120 million died of the coronavirus | Jul 05 22:41 |
| CrystalMath | he already thinks 270 million americans are dead | Jul 05 22:41 |
| CrystalMath | that leaves him with a maximum of 30 million votes :> | Jul 05 22:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The fact of the matter is that he'll win in a landsllide. | Jul 05 22:42 |
| CrystalMath | i sincerely hope not | Jul 05 22:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The people who still believe Trump are the ones who are dying of the virus. | Jul 05 22:42 |
| CrystalMath | despite Trump's failings | Jul 05 22:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So fuck them all to death. | Jul 05 22:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They deserve it for supporting him. | Jul 05 22:42 |
| CrystalMath | i can't even say what i think all democrats deserve for what they did to the whole world | Jul 05 22:42 |
| CrystalMath | it's just too ugly for words | Jul 05 22:42 |
| CrystalMath | and no, i wouldn't want them to die just yet | Jul 05 22:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, that famous Republican, George Bush. | Jul 05 22:43 |
| CrystalMath | well neocons are just as bad | Jul 05 22:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think that was the answer we were looking for. | Jul 05 22:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I hope Florida does get torn a new asshole by this virus. | Jul 05 22:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The old farts down there who were interviewed by the news are so furious and scared that they're wondering why oh why they ever voted for Trump. | Jul 05 22:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Good. | Jul 05 22:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The ones that don't die might learn something. | Jul 05 22:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The ones who do die definitely won't re-offend. | Jul 05 22:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Not seeing a downside. | Jul 05 22:46 |
| CrystalMath | well, very few die of this virus | Jul 05 22:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, you give it 50,000 a day for a few months and you're talking a lot of dead old people. | Jul 05 22:46 |
| CrystalMath | usually statistics hover around 1% in critical condition in any given time | Jul 05 22:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Remember deaths lag new cases. | Jul 05 22:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So whatever the new cases are looking like is a sneak preview of what deaths will look like some weeks later. | Jul 05 22:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It looks like we're going to get at least 50,000 on a Sunday today, so yeah... | Jul 05 22:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Good luck. | Jul 05 22:47 |
| CrystalMath | it isn't really trump's fault at all | Jul 05 22:48 |
| CrystalMath | the US did have a lockdown | Jul 05 22:48 |
| CrystalMath | and banned travel first | Jul 05 22:48 |
| CrystalMath | but the US is big | Jul 05 22:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They say your first million is the hardest. :P | Jul 05 22:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You notice that each million confirmed cases doesn't take nearly as long as the last one. | Jul 05 22:49 |
| CrystalMath | well of course it spreads exponentially | Jul 05 22:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | We'll zoom past 3 million tomorrow and we'll be at 4 million at this rate three weeks later. | Jul 05 22:50 |
| CrystalMath | but ultimately it can't infect more than 300 million in the US | Jul 05 22:50 |
| CrystalMath | because that's the total population :P | Jul 05 22:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, unless immunity is crap. | Jul 05 22:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Some people recover and test positive again, so that's not encouraging. | Jul 05 22:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It was like 337 million, iirc. | Jul 05 22:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Even if only half a percent die, if everyone gets it, that's over a million and a half dead. It's a pretty big fuck up. | Jul 05 22:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Of course, Trump won't care. He's becoming more desperate by the minute. | Jul 05 22:51 |
| CrystalMath | and yet, fairly low for a pandemic | Jul 05 22:51 |
| CrystalMath | last time there was a big pandemic it killed way more | Jul 05 22:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, we know that it's over half a percent. | Jul 05 22:52 |
| CrystalMath | the hong kong flu killed 40 million! | Jul 05 22:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This thing is definitely capable, but you have to give it time. | Jul 05 22:52 |
| CrystalMath | all in a small area about the size of the US | Jul 05 22:52 |
| CrystalMath | it's actually extremely easy for a million people to die | Jul 05 22:53 |
| CrystalMath | it happens every week | Jul 05 22:53 |
| CrystalMath | 40 million deaths is also not as hard as you think | Jul 05 22:53 |
| CrystalMath | especially not if you give it months or years | Jul 05 22:53 |
| CrystalMath | everyone here on this channel is only here for, what is on the grand scale of things, a very short blip | Jul 05 22:54 |
| CrystalMath | blip.... and that's it | Jul 05 22:55 |
| CrystalMath | empires rise and fall too, i just don't know when the god damned US democrat hegemony is gonna fall | Jul 05 22:56 |
| CrystalMath | it looked like with Trump it just might be now | Jul 05 22:56 |
| CrystalMath | it still could be | Jul 05 22:56 |
| XRevan86 | Trump will end the US? | Jul 05 22:56 |
| CrystalMath | no, end the democrat hegemony | Jul 05 22:56 |
| CrystalMath | bring the world away from globalism, and back to localism | Jul 05 22:56 |
| CrystalMath | a vastly more separated world | Jul 05 22:57 |
| CrystalMath | perhaps even better, the declining popularity of english as a second language may even reduce communication between countries | Jul 05 22:57 |
| CrystalMath | as everyone turns inwards onto their own local issues | Jul 05 22:58 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Can you be more specific? | Jul 05 22:58 |
| XRevan86 | By screwing international partners and obtaining enemies everywhere? | Jul 05 22:59 |
| CrystalMath | if Trump wins a second turn, he could pull the US out of NATO | Jul 05 22:59 |
| CrystalMath | that could be the end of NATO | Jul 05 22:59 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: So, globalism == imperialism for you? | Jul 05 22:59 |
| CrystalMath | getting rid of NATO is an important step in defeating globalism | Jul 05 22:59 |
| CrystalMath | yes | Jul 05 23:00 |
| XRevan86 | that's an interesting conflation of terms | Jul 05 23:00 |
| CrystalMath | i cannot stress how horrible a united world would be | Jul 05 23:00 |
| CrystalMath | it would be the worst kind of fascism you've ever seen | Jul 05 23:00 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: NATO is in the US interests, it serves national interests. | Jul 05 23:00 |
| XRevan86 | So "localism" means keeping NATO, in a sense. | Jul 05 23:00 |
| XRevan86 | it's not a chaity | Jul 05 23:01 |
| XRevan86 | charity | Jul 05 23:01 |
| CrystalMath | well, Trump still wants to pull the US out | Jul 05 23:01 |
| CrystalMath | that leaves europe unprotected | Jul 05 23:01 |
| CrystalMath | hopefully the EU will fall apart as well, thanks to russian influence and stuff | Jul 05 23:02 |
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| CrystalMath | and, Trump's reelection could help european alt-right politicians with weird blond hairstyles, such as Geert Wilders | Jul 05 23:04 |
| CrystalMath | hastening the end of the EU | Jul 05 23:04 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: The only thing I read from this is Trump flexing | Jul 05 23:04 |
| CrystalMath | i see the EU as a blueprint of this global fascist state, and so i would really rejoice to see it destroyed | Jul 05 23:04 |
| XRevan86 | "you think you're so important, NATO members, well how would you like it if we leave, you need us" | Jul 05 23:04 |
| CrystalMath | well idk if Trump would really pull the US out in his second term, he just promised it | Jul 05 23:05 |
| CrystalMath | and it's a politician's promise | Jul 05 23:05 |
| CrystalMath | but... if he did | Jul 05 23:05 |
| CrystalMath | that would tear down the evil empire ahead of schedule | Jul 05 23:06 |
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| CrystalMath | and that's why i think Putin must be on the side of good | Jul 05 23:08 |
| CrystalMath | sure, he's serving his own interests primarily, but everything he did worked to stop the evil empire, or weaken it at least | Jul 05 23:08 |
| CrystalMath | they were stopped from getting onto Crimea | Jul 05 23:08 |
| CrystalMath | russia saved it | Jul 05 23:08 |
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| CrystalMath | XRevan86: i mean if Putin is going against the bad guys, what else could he be except good? | Jul 05 23:12 |
| CrystalMath | that's why the democrats hate him so much | Jul 05 23:12 |
| CrystalMath | DaemonFC[m]: and if we can talk about who we'd like to see dead, i will throw a party when George Soros is below ground level | Jul 05 23:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm actually glad that schestowitzbrought up Rick Jones. (I need to work on this.). | Jul 05 23:24 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: thanks! | Jul 05 23:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It just confirmed what we knew already. That Google Drive, Microsoft OneDrive, and iCloud are like something Philip K. Dick would write about | Jul 05 23:24 |
| schestowitz | we appreciate it, take your time | Jul 05 23:24 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: accuracy is impotant | Jul 05 23:24 |
| schestowitz | as MANY people link to this | Jul 05 23:24 |
| schestowitz | as we're the only ones covering it | Jul 05 23:24 |
| schestowitz | 40.4k new us covid19 cases so far today | Jul 05 23:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I mean, this is Minority Report and A Scanner Darkly. | Jul 05 23:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Tor had to lay a bunch of people off. | Jul 05 23:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It was a very bad loss for a lot of reasons. | Jul 05 23:26 |
| schestowitz | https://gazette.com/ap/national/military-chief-troops-were-issued-bayonets-in-dc-unrest/article_49cdeffc-7ab2-577d-add3-89cda76b1a7c.html | Jul 05 23:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Military chief: Troops were issued bayonets in DC unrest | National | gazette.com | Jul 05 23:27 | |
| schestowitz | I saw two reports about this | Jul 05 23:27 |
| schestowitz | makes you wonder | Jul 05 23:27 |
| schestowitz | lots of things | Jul 05 23:27 |
| schestowitz | this is not a defensive weapon | Jul 05 23:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | What does the government do when they want to take away anyone's rights? They start with people who are so horrible that nobody wants to defend them. | Jul 05 23:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Where their lawyers get death threats for doing their job. | Jul 05 23:27 |
| schestowitz | Jones' laywer defended other pedophiles | Jul 05 23:28 |
| schestowitz | we wrote about it before | Jul 05 23:28 |
| schestowitz | he's also a Gates fan | Jul 05 23:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, my lawyer defended a woman who tortured her husband to death. | Jul 05 23:28 |
| CrystalMath | speaking of Tor, have you heard Jacob Appelbaum at LEFFEST 2019? | Jul 05 23:28 |
| CrystalMath | i think i posted the video | Jul 05 23:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Along the way, she used a torch on his penis from his mechanic shop. | Jul 05 23:28 |
| CrystalMath | he talked about Assange | Jul 05 23:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I hired him because he gets results. | Jul 05 23:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He's just doing his job. | Jul 05 23:29 |
| CrystalMath | and his current work - making quantum-safe crypto more usable | Jul 05 23:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Do you want to find a defense attorney who doesn't do a good job defending his clients if you are looking at potentially 2 years in jail? | Jul 05 23:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Or do you want to go for the one who got a baby murderer 6 years and successfully argued insanity defend for ball burning bitch? | Jul 05 23:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | *defense | Jul 05 23:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's a million ways to present the same set of facts. | Jul 05 23:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The job of the defense attorney is to make the jury see the facts a certain way, and the job of the prosecutor is to make you look like the worst person in the world. | Jul 05 23:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The jury decides which is more credible. That's how it works. How it's supposed to work. | Jul 05 23:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Personally, I wouldn't put porn on Google even if it's legal. | Jul 05 23:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You know, you could accidentally put 1 file out of 100,000 on there that wasn't and then out go the reports. | Jul 05 23:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You end up in the back of a Nissan Pathfinder talking to Ian. Completely free to leave, of course. :P | Jul 05 23:34 |
| AVRS | schestowitz: After some searching with Google, I think maybe I misremembered about RMS saying news or politics is intoxicating. Maybe somebody else said that. | Jul 05 23:34 |
| AVRS | at least nothing with the word "intoxicating", but then I would probably remember it in Russian, and it wasn't "addictive". | Jul 05 23:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I installed Google Container. | Jul 05 23:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Someone forked Facebook Container and did the same thing it does to Facebook sites with Google. | Jul 05 23:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It has you logged into Google in a container and not logged into Google in other containers. | Jul 05 23:35 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Microsoft just sank to a new low by shoving Edge down our throats http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139458#comment-25686 [https://pleroma.site/objects/1cab6871-c956-49b5-ba5c-e3e751503b14] | Jul 05 23:36 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Won't stop them from tracking you completely. You should block every request to Google trackers that you can from third party sites. | Jul 05 23:36 |
| AVRS | schestowitz: although his daily amount of political commentary looks like an addiction to me. How do you write so many articles? Is that your job? | Jul 05 23:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's probably nothing you can do that guarantees they don't track you short of doing your browsing in Tor with the security slider on safest, but they're looking to track people in general. Not you in particular. | Jul 05 23:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So they'll do mostly what works 99.9% of the time. | Jul 05 23:38 |
| AVRS | DaemonFC[m]: Yandex has patented a way of determining the approximate wage of a person for ads with a smartphone app. | Jul 05 23:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Wow. | Jul 05 23:38 |
| AVRS | DaemonFC[m]: 1. Paths using location services. If the user goes somewhere daily, one of the places is work. | Jul 05 23:39 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: MX-19.2 KDE Beta 1 available for testing http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139538 [https://pleroma.site/objects/1623f17c-246e-4234-baba-a6142c88e63b] | Jul 05 23:39 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'd like to see a Private Mode with Tor Tabs in Firefox so you could just slip on over to a special Firefox window that still has your bookmarks and stuff. | Jul 05 23:39 |
| AVRS | DaemonFC[m]: 2. People who move there as well may have a related job. | Jul 05 23:40 |
| AVRS | DaemonFC[m]: 3. Enable microphone for a more precise guess, then use #2 for those for whom we can't. | Jul 05 23:40 |
| AVRS | At least most Yandex apps track location even if unnecessary — to generate a map of traffic jams and, recently, of "self-isolation". | Jul 05 23:42 |
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| AVRS | And IIRC they are started automatically with no need. | Jul 05 23:42 |
| AVRS | Unless I confused it with mail.ru. | Jul 05 23:43 |
| schestowitz | [23:34] <AVRS> schestowitz: After some searching with Google, I think maybe I misremembered about RMS saying news or politics is intoxicating. Maybe somebody else said that. | Jul 05 23:44 |
| schestowitz | Maybe I said that, but not in these words | Jul 05 23:45 |
| schestowitz | social control media is made to be addictive, by design | Jul 05 23:45 |
| schestowitz | and I'm a neophile, a new addict | Jul 05 23:45 |
| schestowitz | [23:37] <AVRS> schestowitz: although his daily amount of political commentary looks like an addiction to me. How do you write so many articles? Is that your job? | Jul 05 23:45 |
| schestowitz | Not a job, no pay | Jul 05 23:45 |
| schestowitz | but I spend a lot of time on it, I work aside from that for a salary as a sysadmin | Jul 05 23:45 |
| schestowitz | [23:35] <DaemonFC[m]> schestowitz: I installed Google Container. | Jul 05 23:46 |
| schestowitz | But what's the goal? Google isn't trustworthy. They made the orchestrator kubernetes and outsourced... to Microsoft | Jul 05 23:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's an MPL licensed add-on for Firefox that is sort of like Facebook Container. | Jul 05 23:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It isolates and blocks, pretty much. | Jul 05 23:47 |
| schestowitz | through github Microsoft gains some leverage over containers too... already had Docker Inc. by the balls | Jul 05 23:47 |
| schestowitz | don't use FB then | Jul 05 23:48 |
| schestowitz | BTW, Mozilla hired execs from Facebook | Jul 05 23:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I see Ark is a better compression utility than File Roller. Much more control. Encryption, even, if you use a format that supports it. | Jul 05 23:48 |
| schestowitz | it also works with Comcast so: http://techrights.org/2020/06/25/comcast-privacy/ | Jul 05 23:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Humour] Mozilla Firefox Will Protect Your Privacy Like Comcast Does | Techrights | Jul 05 23:48 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, Facebook Container still blocks Facebook stuff. | Jul 05 23:49 |
| schestowitz | on Mozilla and FB, with screenshots: http://techrights.org/2019/11/03/the-privacy-scam/ | Jul 05 23:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Facebook and Other Surveillance Capitalists Won’t Save Mozilla From Google Dependence | Techrights | Jul 05 23:49 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: says it does | Jul 05 23:49 |
| AVRS | uMatrix blocks more… there is also Self-destructing cookies | Jul 05 23:49 |
| schestowitz | but Mozilla itself does spying | Jul 05 23:49 |
| schestowitz | glean, telemetry, hosted by Microsoft | Jul 05 23:49 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: ark has been around for so long... I remember using it a lot in 2003 | Jul 05 23:50 |
| AVRS | SDC is not useful for this without uMatrix or Google Container | Jul 05 23:50 |
| AVRS | never used uBlock | Jul 05 23:50 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: FB is a waste of time | Jul 05 23:50 |
| schestowitz | and you feed a malicious monster | Jul 05 23:50 |
| schestowitz | better wean yourself off it | Jul 05 23:50 |
| schestowitz | the problem is FB itself | Jul 05 23:51 |
| schestowitz | not just its spying | Jul 05 23:51 |
| schestowitz | so FB sans spying is still bad | Jul 05 23:51 |
| schestowitz | it's FB | Jul 05 23:51 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: You really know nothing about Russia, do you? | Jul 05 23:51 |
| schestowitz | and it needs to be dead | Jul 05 23:51 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: Finland is part of Russia, right? | Jul 05 23:52 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: heh | Jul 05 23:52 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86 books domestic flight from St Petersburg tro Helsinki | Jul 05 23:52 |
| XRevan86 | (at least it recently was, just a century ago) | Jul 05 23:52 |
| schestowitz | like alaska further back | Jul 05 23:53 |
| schestowitz | ussr had much more than finland | Jul 05 23:53 |
| schestowitz | trump agaibst nato | Jul 05 23:53 |
| schestowitz | also thinks finland is in tussia | Jul 05 23:53 |
| schestowitz | you might joke he had Putin's whole arm up his rectum | Jul 05 23:54 |
| schestowitz | orange puppet | Jul 05 23:54 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: That's part of the reason why CrystalMath likes him, I guess. | Jul 05 23:55 |
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| CrystalMath | perhaps i don't know enough about russia | Jul 05 23:55 |
| AVRS | schestowitz: why "orange puppet"? | Jul 05 23:55 |
| schestowitz | he's easy to play | Jul 05 23:55 |
| schestowitz | because of his ignorance | Jul 05 23:55 |
| CrystalMath | i'm defining putin as good using the negative way: the enemy of my enemy is my friend | Jul 05 23:55 |
| CrystalMath | plus i guess he contributed a lot of money to reactos | Jul 05 23:56 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Have you heard of PMC Vagner? | Jul 05 23:57 |
| AVRS | schestowitz: why "orange"? | Jul 05 23:57 |
| AVRS | I don't know what that means. | Jul 05 23:57 |
| AVRS | Ironically, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orange_Revolution#Outside_Ukraine | Jul 05 23:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Orange Revolution - Wikipedia | Jul 05 23:57 | |
| XRevan86 | AVRS: Trump looks orange under certain light. | Jul 05 23:57 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: no | Jul 05 23:58 |
| schestowitz | he paints himself | Jul 05 23:58 |
| schestowitz | he's not really orange | Jul 05 23:58 |
| schestowitz | hair and skin dye | Jul 05 23:58 |
| XRevan86 | * Trump's make-up | Jul 05 23:59 |
| schestowitz | yeah, manly | Jul 05 23:59 |
| CrystalMath | so? | Jul 05 23:59 |
| AVRS | ah, reddish hair | Jul 05 23:59 |
| CrystalMath | men have a right to paint themselves all they want, just like everyone else | Jul 05 23:59 |
| schestowitz | Trump cosmetics, by Ivanka... | Jul 05 23:59 |
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