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[00:41] matey InformOverload on youtube is produced to hurt your ears and they redo the same lists every few months under different titles
[00:42] matey hopefully i remember not to watch their stuff (ive yet to find anything they say i cant find other people saying on other channels)
[00:42] matey the content is a waste of time anyway, they compound this
[00:43] matey im also nearing the point where i never check out a youtube video with an arrow in the thumbnail ever again
[00:43] matey a few years ago (or maybe 10) it was stupid faces
[00:43] matey everyone would be making a completely stupid face to get your attention (clicks)
[00:43] matey now its red arrows ->
[00:43] matey they should call them clickbait arrows
[00:46] DaemonFC https://thehill.com/homenews/nexstar_media_wire/3531549-the-worst-run-major-cities-in-the-us-study/
[00:46] TR Bot The worst-run major cities in the US: study | The Hill
[00:46] DaemonFC According to WalletHub, San Francisco is the second worst-run major city in America.
[00:47] psydruid some people still believe they want to live there
[00:57] matey :) https://yewtu.be/watch?v=hUEZmrcx_lM
[00:58] TR Bot The Fairy Tales of Chemtrails! - Invidious
[00:58] matey best video ive seen on this
[00:58] matey never really saw one that rebutted the "different types of chemtrails" thing
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[01:04] matey the best way to investigate this further (if someone really wants to) is to simply measure air pollution.
[01:04] matey good luck
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[01:58] DaemonFC https://youtube.fandom.com/wiki/Awake
[01:58] TR Bot Awake | Wikitubia | Fandom
[01:58] DaemonFC This was the Highland Park Shooter.
[01:58] DaemonFC They arrested him about an hour ago.
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[01:59] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], GULAGTube already removed his account.
[01:59] DaemonFC The one that he was posting his music videos to.
● Jul 05
[02:00] DaemonFC https://www.awaketherapper.com/
[02:00] TR Bot Awake The Rapper Official Website
[02:00] DaemonFC You can buy a surprise for $35, according to his website.
[02:01] DaemonFC https://twitter.com/robertcrimo
[02:01] TR Bot ( status 400 @ https://mobile.twitter.com/robertcrimo )
[02:01] DaemonFC Twitter is down too.
[02:16] TR News [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D633.jpg
[02:16] TR News [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D282.jpg
[02:20] TR News "Welcome to the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter, Issue 742 for the week of June 26 July 2, 2022." https://ubuntu-news.org/2022/07/05/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-742/
[02:20] TR Bot Ubuntu Fridge | Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 742
[02:20] TR News "The community gets angry about GitHub Copilot, Flim gets angry about email, Firefox continues to improve, drawers fill up with more Raspberry Pis, KDE shines as ever, and more." https://latenightlinux.com/late-night-linux-episode-184/
[02:20] TR Bot Late Night Linux Episode 184 Late Night Linux
[02:21] TR News It is malware. Never use it. It cannot be trusted. https://www.maketecheasier.com/google-chrome-password-manager/
[02:21] TR Bot How to Use the Google Password Manager in Chrome - Make Tech Easier
[02:22] TR News "This weeks episode of Destination Linux, were going to be discussing how soon is too soon to ship software. Then we will be discussing Thunderbird 102 and all of its new gizmos and gadgets. Plus, we have our tips/tricks and software picks." https://tuxdigital.com/podcasts/destination-linux/dl-285/
[02:22] TR Bot To Ship Or Not To Ship Software? - Destination Linux - TuxDigital
[02:23] DaemonFC https://wgntv.com/news/highland-park-parade-shooting/police-respond-to-incident-at-highland-park-fourth-of-july-parade/
[02:23] TR Bot Highland Park shooting: 6 dead, 24 injured in Fourth of July parade shooting
[02:24] DaemonFC To be fair, he can't get away in a Honda Fit.
[02:26] TR News "I recently had an exchange of emails with Richard Stallman over the absurdity of gun control laws." https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/07/04/if-youre-a-gun-owner-in-illinois-dont-put-your-foid-card-behind-your-drivers-license-highland-park/
[02:26] TR Bot If youre a gun owner in Illinois, dont put your FOID card behind your drivers license. Bonus: Highland Park Mass Shooting BaronHK's Rants
[02:26] TR News This device predicts when a refrigerator might fail using embedded ML | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/07/04/this-device-predicts-when-a-refrigerator-might-fail-using-embedded-ml/ Source: Arduino | Hardware | OpenHardware | Hacking
[02:26] TR Bot This device predicts when a refrigerator might fail using embedded ML | Arduino Blog
[02:27] TR News SUSE uses corrupt Gartner as "authority" https://www.suse.com/c/suse-rancher-removes-roadblocks-to-transformation/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gartner_Group
[02:27] TR Bot Rancher removes roadblocks to transformation | SUSE Communities
[02:27] TR Bot Gartner Group - Techrights
[02:29] TR News Audiocasts/Shows: Destination Linux, Late Night Linux, Linux Mint 21 Backgrounds, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166847
[02:29] TR Bot Audiocasts/Shows: Destination Linux, Late Night Linux, Linux Mint 21 Backgrounds, and More | Tux Machines
[02:29] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166848
[02:29] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines
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[02:39] TR Bot IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, July 04, 2022
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[02:40] TR News The Law Bytes Podcast, Episode 133: Michael Nesbitt on How the Senate Pushed Back Against a Government Bill on Searching Digital Devices at the Border https://www.michaelgeist.ca/2022/07/law-bytes-podcast-episode-133/
[02:40] TR Bot The Law Bytes Podcast, Episode 133: Michael Nesbitt on How the Senate Pushed Back Against a Government Bill on Searching Digital Devices at the Border - Michael Geist
[02:41] TR News Linux Distro Reviews: Intro Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166849
[02:41] TR Bot Linux Distro Reviews: Intro | Tux Machines
[02:41] TR News Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-07-04.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-07-04.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)
[02:47] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], I fixed some small errors and expanded again, a little bit.
[02:48] schestowitz[TR] ok
[02:48] DaemonFC "Its not that people in the US dont care, its that were burned out. We have to endure so many ignorant people putting so many ignorant politicians in office, that dont want to be seen doing nothing, so they do the wrong thing (Democrats), or dont want to lift people out of poverty either because they dont want to spend the money (Republicans) or because they spend the money creating poverty traps in order to get voters (Demo
[02:48] DaemonFC crats). In the end, it really is the same thing, isnt it?
[02:48] DaemonFC I noted the other day on TechRights that the more you fight to get ahead in this country, the more they suck you back down into the gutter. You go to college to earn more money, and many people end up paying more in loans than the difference between some low wage job and their new career. You pick up hours, you lose your health insurance subsidy from the government. You get a little more money this month, there went the help with your food and
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[02:48] DaemonFC light bill. You have savings? That just means you get inflation and garnishment creditors and lost that.
[02:48] DaemonFC Its horrible. And Ive tried to point that out, but the problem is that most people you can point it out to stepped into it themselves and cant get back out and dont want anyone reminding them of the problems theyre facing, so things go on pretty much unchanged."
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[02:49] DaemonFC The way I see it is that they want us after each other about details.
[02:50] TR News Ubuntu GNU/Linux https://isc.sans.edu/diary/rss/28792
[02:50] TR Bot InfoSec Handlers Diary Blog - SANS Internet Storm Center
[02:50] DaemonFC There's almost never a party primary where I see nobody that "gets it", but they don't win.
[02:50] DaemonFC They never win.
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[02:51] DaemonFC I really think Governor Pritzker is so detached from reality he actually believes a lot of what he says.
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[02:51] DaemonFC He's always up there doing bill signings that he says will make life so much better and I don't see my life getting better. I see more taxes, more crime, more bullshit.
[02:52] DaemonFC Illinois has 156,000 less jobs today than it did in March 2020.
[02:52] TR News "Update: Assange lodged an appeal against the decision to extradite him to the US on Friday 1 July." https://pressgazette.co.uk/julian-assange-press-freedom/
[02:52] TR Bot Julian Assange extradition: the decade-long battle explained
[02:52] DaemonFC Out of the 50 states, it was #50 for jobs growth in the past two years.
[02:52] DaemonFC And we're going into another part of a double dip recession.
[02:53] TR News "In the second of this two-part series, we examine why so many journalists are keen to cooperate with and parrot the key messages of the US and British intelligence agencies." https://scheerpost.com/2022/07/04/how-spooks-and-establishment-journalists-are-circling-the-wagons-2/
[02:53] TR Bot Spooks and Establishment Journalists are Circling the Wagons scheerpost.com
[02:54] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], I don't see how rents are going up, I just don't.
[02:54] TR News "He commented on the information revealed in WikiLeaks articles which talked about the fraud committed in the 2006 presidential elections by the then President Vicente Fox alongside Felipe Caldern, messages that were never denied." https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Mexican-President-To-Discuss-Assanges-Case-With-Biden-20220704-0021.html
[02:54] TR Bot Mexican President To Discuss Assanges Case With Biden | News | teleSUR English
[02:54] DaemonFC People are pouring out of Illinois. The ones that are left have no jobs and move back in with parents or live in a box under the L.
[02:54] DaemonFC Where is there upwards pressure coming from?
[02:55] DaemonFC https://www.vice.com/en/article/v7vmwd/illinois-darren-bailey-highland-park-?utm_source=vicenewsfacebook
[02:55] TR Bot Hours After Mass Shooting, GOP Candidate Says Time to Move On and Celebrate
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[02:56] TR News Russia fines Airbnb, Twitch and Pinterest for not storing data locally | Engadget https://www.engadget.com/russia-fines-airbnb-twitch-pinterest-local-data-155936863.html Source: engadget
[02:56] TR Bot fines Airbnb, Twitch and Pinterest for not storing data locally | Engadget
[02:57] TR News Banned 60 years ago, this obscene Anzac play makes its Australian debut https://www.theage.com.au/culture/theatre/the-revival-of-the-anzac-play-the-censors-wouldn-t-let-us-see-60-years-ago-20220620-p5av0i.html
[02:57] TR Bot Banned 60 years ago, this obscene Anzac play makes its Australian debut
[02:58] TR News Gravity Falls Creator Shares Disney's Bananas Censorship Notes https://gizmodo.com/gravity-falls-disney-censorship-alex-hirsch-lgbtq-1849070186 Source: gizmodo
[02:58] TR Bot Gravity Falls Creator Shares Disney's Bananas Censorship Notes
[02:58] TR News Facebooks Antiabortion Censorship Is a Reminder of the Perils of Content Moderation https://jacobin.com/2022/06/facebook-antiabortion-pills-censorship-content-moderation-social-media/ Source: jacobin
[02:58] TR Bot Facebooks Antiabortion Censorship Is a Reminder of the Perils of Content Moderation
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[02:59] TR News ANF | MSLA co-director Veysel Ok says 'censorship law' will affect everyone https://anfenglishmobile.com/freedom-of-the-press/msla-co-director-veysel-ok-says-censorship-law-will-affect-everyone-60764 Source: anfenglishmobile
[02:59] TR Bot ANF | MSLA co-director Veysel Ok says 'censorship law' will affect everyone
● Jul 05
[03:00] TR News ANF | Journalist Balk says 'Disinformation Law' is biggest censorship law in the history of Turkey https://anfenglishmobile.com/freedom-of-the-press/journalist-balikci-says-disinformation-law-is-biggest-censorship-law-in-the-history-of-turkey-60803 Source: anfenglishmobile
[03:00] TR Bot ANF | Journalist Balk says 'Disinformation Law' is biggest censorship law in the history of Turkey
[03:00] TR News "The authorities blocked the domains dw.com and amerikaninsesi.com, the web address of VOA's Turkish service." https://anfenglishmobile.com/freedom-of-the-press/censorship-at-work-access-to-webpages-of-voice-of-america-and-deutsche-welle-blocked-60923
[03:00] TR Bot ANF | Censorship at work: access to webpages of Voice of America and Deutsche Welle blocked
[03:01] TR News Journalists protest 'disinformation bill': 'Greatest censorship in Turkey's history' https://www.bianet.org/english/freedom-of-expression/263614-journalists-protest-disinformation-bill-greatest-censorship-in-turkey-s-history Source: bianet
[03:01] TR Bot Journalists protest 'disinformation bill': 'Greatest censorship in Turkey's history' - english
[03:02] TR News Chinese censors scrub internet after senior party official gives speech on timeline of zero-Covid in Beijing https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/27/asia/china-zero-covid-policy-intl/index.html
[03:02] TR Bot zero-Covid policy: Censors scrub internet after senior official's speech on timeline for Beijing - CNN
[03:03] TR News U.S. Targets Russia With Tech to Evade Censorship of Ukraine News https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2022-06-15/exclusive-u-s-targets-russia-with-tech-to-evade-censorship-of-ukraine-news
[03:04] TR News Online discussion was swirling in response to reported remarks of Beijing's party secretary. https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2022-06-27/censors-delete-discussion-of-beijings-future-covid-control
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[03:05] TR News Twitter censors Post Editorial Board member for months ![]()
[03:05] TR News "A New York Post Editorial Board member has been blocked by Twitter for months, in what he says is punishment for the paper's decision to publish Hunter Biden's hard drive." https://nypost.com/2022/07/02/twitter-censors-post-editorial-board-member-for-months/
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[03:06] TR News "Spotify's Safety Advisory Council comes after an artist backlash over COVID misinformation on Joe Rogan's podcast." https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/spotify-forms-council-to-advise-on-safety-versus-censorship/#ftag=CADf328eec
[03:06] TR Bot Forms Council to Advise on Safety Versus Censorship - CNET
[03:07] TR News Turkey uses armed drones to assassinate people, US cannot criticise Erdogan (US does worse) https://anfenglishmobile.com/rojava-syria/turkish-drones-target-derik-and-tel-rifat-60842
[03:07] TR Bot ANF | Turkish drones target Drik and Tel Rifat
[03:08] TR News Hong Kong police to set up security zones for Xi Jinpings planned visit on July 1, drones banned https://hongkongfp.com/2022/06/28/in-pictures-hong-kong-police-to-set-up-security-zones-for-xi-jinpings-planned-visit-on-july-1-drones-banned/
[03:08] TR Bot In Pictures: Hong Kong police to set up security zones for Xi Jinping's planned visit on July 1, drones banned - Hong Kong Free Press HKFP
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[03:10] TR News Saying "unmanned drones" is like saying "naked nudist" https://www.france24.com/en/middle-east/20220702-hezbollah-launches-unarmed-drones-towards-israeli-gas-rig-in-disputed-waters
[03:10] TR Bot Hezbollah launches unarmed drones towards Israeli gas rig in disputed waters
[03:10] TR News "This is the latest in a long string of incidents in which shipping baron and death-defier Jeff Bezos' e-commerce organization has received community resistance to Amazon endeavors." https://futurism.com/residents-threaten-shoot-amazon-drones
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[03:11] TR News Drug dealers/suppliers getting creative https://www.theage.com.au/world/spanish-police-seize-underwater-drug-smuggling-drones-20220705-p5az58.html
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[03:14] TR News Summer feels like autumn here gemini://caolan.uk/cgi-bin/weather.py/wxfcs/352509 been like this for a while now...
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[03:26] psydruid LarAMDel enjoys the Rembrandt SoC's newfound CoCboot support
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[03:27] schestowitz[TR] does coreboot censor people?
[03:29] TR News "The USs terminal conflict will be an internal one, fought between people who only see Americas flaws and those who pretend they dont exist. And of course, both are wrong." https://danielmiessler.com/blog/two-americas/
[03:29] TR Bot Two Americas - Daniel Miessler
[03:29] psydruid I don't know, but they definitely have a CoC
[03:30] TR News What income can you get from your old indie PC games? - Cliffskis Blog https://www.positech.co.uk/cliffsblog/2022/07/03/what-income-can-you-get-from-your-old-indie-pc-games/ Source: positech
[03:30] TR Bot What income can you get from your old indie PC games? Cliffski's Blog
[03:30] matey www.coreboot.org/Talk:Code_of_Conduct
[03:30] matey 1Singling out "Harassment" 2Rephrase the 'check your motives' part 3Some words about assessing code quality Singling out "Harassment" Carl-Daniel is unhappywith the list after "Harassment includes:", because it (as Patrick understands it) singles out that behavior, minimizing the others (that are just as horrible).
[03:30] matey /me goes to check what the others are
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[03:31] matey https://yewtu.be/watch?v=vtSmfws0_To
[03:31] TR Bot "Round Up The Usual Suspects!" (CASABLANCA) - Invidious
[03:31] TR News Harvard Developed [algorithm] Identifies the Shortest Path to Human Happiness https://scitechdaily.com/harvard-developed-ai-identifies-the-shortest-path-to-human-happiness/ Source: scitechdaily
[03:31] TR Bot Harvard Developed AI Identifies the Shortest Path to Human Happiness
[03:31] DaemonFC Mom reminded me how bad of a cook my dad was.
[03:32] DaemonFC She had just bought a month's worth of groceries and she came home when I was like 5 and asked why we hadn't had anything to eat, and I told her "Dad couldn't get the car to start.".
[03:32] DaemonFC That probably is how he and Jan still are. Eating out every night because he doesn't want to bother to cook simple recipes.
[03:33] matey "Cons: Is that micromanaging things?"
[03:33] psydruid having a CoC is just an instrument for getting rid of people you don't like and/or who don't toe the party line, so you can create an exclusive club of members who "get" it
[03:34] matey People who intentionally insult others (users, developers, corporations, other projects, or the coreboot project itself) will be dealt with. See policy below.
[03:34] psydruid a very cult-like experience
[03:34] matey or the coreboot project itself) will be dealt with!
[03:34] matey PEOPLE WHO INSULT COREBOOT WILL BE FED TO THE BEARMONSTER
[03:35] matey the bearmonster is your friend. the bearmonster is everyones friend. do not upset the bearmonster.
[03:35] matey "See policy below" :D a policy within a policy! *claps hands*
[03:35] matey yo dawg, we herd you like inception...
[03:36] matey Unacceptable behaviors include: intimidating, harassing, abusive, discriminatory, derogatory or demeaning speech or actions by any participant in our community online, at all related events and in one-on-one communications
[03:36] matey good lord
[03:36] matey are there any acceptable behaviours?
[03:36] matey BE HAPPY UND GET BACK TO VERK!
[03:38] matey *codes furiously* *donald duck voice* HEIL COREBOOT HEIL COREBOOT HEIL COREBOOT! *codes furiously* HEIL COREBOOT HEIL COREBOOT! *continues coding*
[03:38] MinceR Happiness Is Mandatory
[03:38] matey the beatings will continue until happiness improves
[03:39] psydruid don't be a slave, be a subordinate and a follower
[03:39] MinceR The Corporation is your friend. The Corporation wants you to be happy. Happiness is mandatory. Failure to be happy is treason. Treason is punishable by summary execution.
[03:39] psydruid don't be a master, be a mistress and a dominatrix
[03:39] matey dont harrass des, be a smartie-- come and join the coreboot party!
[03:39] matey devs
[03:40] MinceR so, "master" is "problematic" but "mistress" isn't?
[03:40] psydruid who knows
[03:40] matey /me checks on os.boot polict
[03:40] schestowitz[TR] try a branch called "mistress"
[03:40] psydruid I haven't bothered looking up their CoC specifications
[03:40] MinceR hopefully dehomag upper management knows
[03:41] MinceR and/or MICROS~1 upper management
[03:42] matey i know what the policy is for irc
[03:42] matey Help is available via #osboot on Libera IRC.
[03:42] matey /me checks the rest of the project
[03:42] matey https://osboot.org/faq.html#do-not-use-ch341a
[03:42] TR Bot osboot Frequently Asked Questions
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[03:45] matey repo: https://notabug.org/osboot
[03:45] TR Bot Free code hosting
[03:46] matey technically notabug has a coc
[03:46] matey three lines in the tos
[03:46] matey https://notabug.org/tos
[03:46] TR Bot - NotABug.org: Free code hosting
[03:46] matey https://notabug.org/tos
[03:46] schestowitz[TR] technically or legally?
[03:47] schestowitz[TR] or both?
[03:47] matey tos are not necessarily legally binding
[03:47] schestowitz[TR] it's not about seafety
[03:47] schestowitz[TR] it's about tribalism
[03:47] schestowitz[TR] and risk of losing one's account for deviatng freom the worldview of the clique
[03:47] schestowitz[TR] even if totally unrelated to the project/code
[03:48] schestowitz[TR] they should banm very buggy projects maybe
[03:48] matey NotABug.org is dedicated to providing a harassment-free experience for everyone, regardless of gender, gender identity and expression, sexual orientation, disability, physical appearance, body size, age, race, or religion. We do not tolerate harassment of participants in any form.
[03:48] schestowitz[TR] even if their political worldview is 100% awesome
[03:48] schestowitz[TR] and even if the "I can't code" part stands
[03:48] matey This code of conduct applies to all NotABug.org spaces, including Git repositories, issues, comments, and wiki content, both online and off. Anyone who violates this code of conduct may be sanctioned or expelled from these spaces at the discretion of the NotABug.org operators.
[03:48] schestowitz[TR] focus on the focus
[03:48] matey Some projects hosted on NotABug.org may have additional rules in place, which will be made clearly available to participants. Participants are responsible for knowing and abiding by these rules. Clearly available is defined as a file named "CONDUCT" in the root of a repository, optionally in markdown format. This document supersedes any project specific code of conduct in case of a conflict.
[03:48] schestowitz[TR] Torvalds lashed out at people who wrote bad code
[03:48] schestowitz[TR] brb
[03:49] TR News Absolute64-20220701 released Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166850
[03:49] TR Bot Absolute64-20220701 released | Tux Machines
[03:50] matey osboot doesnt appear to have added anything to the basic notabug coc
[03:51] matey whoever got people using the word "tribalism" for anything is a serious cunt
[03:51] matey everything
[03:52] matey nb: i attribute the use of it in free software contects to simon phipps of osi/ibm
[03:53] matey that may or may not be accurate. if i thought it wasnt accurate, i would attribute it to someone else
[03:53] matey note that its something open source may have imposed on free software
[03:53] matey you didnt hear it in constant use before the coup afaict
[03:54] matey phipps used to riff on the bullshit idea that osi, which seceded from free software, was only disregarded by free software people because of superficial differences
[03:55] matey it had been said before, but i believe he emphasised it more than any previous osi president
[03:55] matey basically what it works out to in real terms is "WE can be divisive, but its PETTY when YOU do it"
[03:56] matey people like that should have a shit-eating grin to warn you of their existence. fortunately, slime-on complies with this standard.
[03:57] matey kuhn is more subtle. he only looks like a hamster
[03:57] matey when your opponent is allowed to be divisive, and you are only allowed to seek unity, then your opponent is socially in exclusive charge of hiring and firing people
[03:57] matey of deciding who is in and out
[03:57] MinceR 05 044841 < schestowitz[TR]> Torvalds lashed out at people who wrote bad code
[03:58] matey basically what a corporation wants
[03:58] MinceR and he was right to do so
[03:58] MinceR and him not doing so anymore is the reason 5.15.41_1 won't boot on my ThinkPad X270
[03:58] matey those who insult coreboot will be fed to the bearmonster
[03:58] matey happiness is mandatory. niceness is mandatory
[03:58] matey those who are not nice will be fed to the bearmonster
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[03:59] MinceR (also the fact that Linux had no QA outside Torvalds, which was a very sad state of affairs, but not as sad as the current, in which Linux has no QA at all)
[03:59] matey the bearmonster is nice, he is everyones friend
[03:59] matey do not upset the bearmonster
[03:59] matey but not as sad as the current, in which Linux has no QA at all <- ARE YOU INSULTING LINUX?
[03:59] matey thats against their policy!
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[04:00] matey /me checks to see if youre still allowed to use the kernel, or only barred for life from hacking on it
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[04:00] matey We Use the Code of Conduce Public License (COCPL)
[04:00] psydruid > kuhn is more subtle. he only looks like a hamster
[04:00] psydruid what will happen when the hamster meets a frog: find out by clicking here!
[04:00] matey it says you have to be happy and nice and you cant harass people for not sharing their source code.
[04:01] MinceR lol
[04:01] MinceR i'm more interested in what happens when a frog is struck by lightning
[04:02] matey the first rule of nice club is you have to be nice to nice club
[04:02] matey the second rule of nice club is you cant critique anything ever
[04:02] MinceR nice nice baby
[04:02] matey the third rule of nice club is that theree are harsh penalties for anyone who isnt nice
[04:02] matey these people think theyre fucking cute, but ive been in an actual cult
[04:03] matey ive seen all this shit before
[04:03] *psydruid found out recently that the hamster doesn't stand a chance
[04:03] matey how recently?
[04:04] psydruid very recently unfortunately
[04:05] psydruid frogs are vicious creatures
[04:06] matey i guess penfold should watch out for baron greenback then
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[04:10] matey By increasing the ease of use and accessibility for a given coreboot system, for non-technical users, it increases the amount of technical users because more people learn about coreboot. This increases the number of people that can provide testing for coreboot, and will very likely:
[04:11] matey this is very similar to my personal philosophy about coding
[04:11] matey if you make it as simple as possible, more people will develop the skill and surpass the simplest examples
[04:11] matey provided you dont hold them back
[04:12] matey the second part is as important as the first
[04:12] matey and people really suck at the second part
[04:13] matey they make things easy then tie you into some hopeless complicated thing
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[04:14] matey endless abstractions and misdirections
[04:14] matey click a million things so you dont have to type in three words
[04:14] matey then they move the million things around
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[04:29] psydruid the software life cycle applies just as much to free software as it applies to closed source, albeit at a slower pace
[04:35] psydruid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYKjaugrLgg
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[05:48] TR News Linux Release Roundup #22.27: Vim 9.0 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166600#comment-34250
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[05:49] TR News Qubes OS 4.0 reaches EOL on 2022-08-04 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166851
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[05:49] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166852
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[06:36] DaemonFC Torvalds lashed out at people who wrote bad code
[06:37] DaemonFC Which is transphobic, according to Matthew J. GULAG
[06:37] DaemonFC Suuuuuper Genius.
[06:44] DaemonFC https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/white-house/buttigieg-how-to-get-refunds-500-flights-canceled
[06:44] TR Bot Buttigieg tells furious fliers how to get refunds as over 500 flights canceled | Washington Examiner
[06:44] DaemonFC Pete Buttfuck tells angry passengers how to get a refund while all the flights are canceled.
[06:47] DaemonFC https://jezebel.com/i-spent-a-week-interrogating-my-dislike-of-pete-buttigi-1835247553
[06:47] TR Bot Is My Intense Dislike of Pete Buttigieg Justified?
[06:47] DaemonFC Buttigieg continued: The next presidency could, Id say, define an era in no smaller way than either FDR or Reagan.
[06:47] DaemonFC Well, he was wrong there.
[06:47] DaemonFC Biden is definitely defining an era, but more as a retread of Jimmy Carter.
[06:49] DaemonFC He was even going to sneak a judge that was hostile to abortion onto the federal district court in the Eastern District of Kentucky, until the Dobbs decision was handed down on the day he had planned to do that, and then all of a sudden, it was a "terrible day for America" due to the Dobbs decision and "our fundamental right to abortion" was dealt a serious blow, of course.
[06:50] DaemonFC Democrat voters were even excusing the idea as "Well, it was the only candidate Mitch McConnell would allow. An argument with only two minor flaws in it.
[06:50] DaemonFC 1. Leaving the seat empty would be better than filling it with such a candidate.
[06:51] DaemonFC 2. The Democrats have a majority and can vote to move the candidate out of the subcommittee on judges without Mitch McConnell's support. It would just take them a few more days to do that. So they could eventually appoint anyone they want. But we need a Republican that agrees on all the issues with Trump in that seat because we don't want to spend 10 days to confirm a judge instead of 7?
[06:52] DaemonFC Biden could be setting up the Democrats to lose the next two elections worse than what's coming already.
[06:52] DaemonFC By not aggressively appointing judges now, he risks having Republican judges around to decide on all of the election day lawsuits, and then January 3rd coming with a new Senate that will never appoint a Biden nominee again.
[06:53] DaemonFC They don't even seem to care, really.
[06:54] DaemonFC They go from one bullshit thing to the next in the Senate, like there's no freight train coming straight at them. No sense of urgency. No sense that appointing federal judges may be the only way to get SOME of their agenda to stick later.
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[09:18] TR News Pacman Package Manager for Arch-Based Distributions Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166853
[09:18] TR Bot Pacman Package Manager for Arch-Based Distributions | Tux Machines
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[09:18] TR News Ubuntu 22.10 Introduces a New Ubuntu Desktop Settings Panel Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166855
[09:18] TR Bot Ubuntu 22.10 Introduces a New Ubuntu Desktop Settings Panel | Tux Machines
[09:21] TR News "I just drove virtually down the street to the house I spent most of my childhood in courtesy of Google Maps street view. Quite sobering to see a tree that I used to jump over now tower what I'm estimating to be some 70 feet tall. Um... wow.. yes, a blink of an eye indeed...." gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1057
[09:22] TR News salparse gemini://idiomdrottning.org/salparse
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[09:55] TR News The 20% Gap: Android (Linux-Powered) Exceeds 46%, Windows Down to 26% | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/05/widening-gap/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/05/widening-gap/
[09:55] TR Bot The 20% Gap: Android (Linux-Powered) Exceeds 46%, Windows Down to 26% | Techrights
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[10:18] TR News "A shell that doesn't claim to be POSIX compatible doesn't have to have this 'pass files to sh' behavior" https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/unix/EmptyFileWhyTrue | Source: uni Toronto
[10:18] TR Bot Chris's Wiki :: blog/unix/EmptyFileWhyTrue
[10:18] TR News "More broadly, I think it's a mistake to look at filesystems through the eyes of general tree structures." https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/tech/FilesystemsVsGeneralTrees | Source: uni Toronto
[10:18] TR Bot Chris's Wiki :: blog/tech/FilesystemsVsGeneralTrees
[10:19] TR News "The title of this tutorial is a bit vague, but I couldn't help myself." https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/linux-perf-trace.html | Source: Dedoimedo
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[10:23] schestowitz[TR] Ariadne: there was some loss in the DB, we'll revert back to an old version of trhew DB probably
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[10:23] schestowitz[TR] I'm not sure if the storage layer is to blame
[10:27] TR News [Old] "Gemini is a relatively new (the project started in 2019) internet protocol." https://blog.devgenius.io/tired-of-the-modern-web-try-the-gemini-protocol-ba847f102fe6 |
[10:27] TR Bot Tired of the Modern Web? Try the Gemini protocol | by Dmitrii Eliuseev | Dev Genius
[10:27] TR News "A truly new Web Browser" https://lunduke.substack.com/p/ladybird-a-truly-new-web-browser | Source: Bryan Lunduke
[10:27] TR Bot Ladybird: A truly new Web Browser (with a from-scratch engine) comes to Linux
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[10:28] TR News "The Software Freedom Conservancy (SFC) has issued a strong call for free software projects to give up GitHub" https://lwn.net/Articles/899530/ | Source: LWN
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[10:31] TR News "The scalability trilemma states that blockchains must choose to optimize two of the three properties: [...]" https://matt-rickard.com/web3s-scalability-trilemma/ | Source: Matt Rickard
[10:31] TR Bot Giving Up Decentralization: Scalability Trilemma
[10:31] TR News "Sometimes people who are stuck in a bad language need to develop discipline or structure or formalize their thinking since otherwise theyd be lost (since their language doesnt let them create abstraction) and that can be interesting." https://idiomdrottning.org/good-book-bad-language | Source: Idiomdrottning
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[10:31] TR News "I've built a lot of developer tools (minikube and skaffold to name a few)." https://matt-rickard.com/my-development-stack/ | Source: Matt Rickard
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[10:31] TR News "This file details portable-specific changes to make things work on systems other than OpenBSD." https://gameoftrees.org/releases/portable/CHANGELOG |
[10:31] TR News "Git was born from the collaboration problems in the Linux kernel." https://matt-rickard.com/what-comes-after-git/ | Source: Matt Rickard
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[10:34] TR Bot Deepfakes Might Be Used in Remote Job Interviews, FBI Warns
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[10:43] schestowitz[TR] Ariadne: would you consider putting a blank new container/vm for tuxmachines to migrate tuxmachines-old to? we can mostly manage from there on our own I think.
[10:45] TR News "And thats what makes me nervous" https://rubenerd.com/australian-ag-dreyfus-on-data-privacy-law/ | Source: Ruben Schade
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[10:49] TR Bot Sustainability is driving the IoT way beyond ROI - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysis
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[10:50] TR Bot Three years into the digital fight for freedom in Brussels Pirates matter! Patrick Breyer
[10:52] TR News "the economic devastation caused by Brexit is becoming increasingly clear" https://www.greenparty.org.uk/news/2022/07/04/labour-and-tories-ignoring-disaster-of-brexit-out-of-own-self-interest,-greens-warn/ | Source: Green Party UK
[10:52] TR Bot Labour and Tories ignoring disaster of Brexit out of own self-interest, Greens warn | The Green Party
[10:56] TR News "Social media stars in Kashmir are stuck between a rock and a hard place, Mahek says." https://theprint.in/features/conflict-cant-stop-me-kashmiri-influencers-are-censoring-lying-low-but-wont-go-offline/1020092/ | Source: The Print
[10:56] TR Bot Conflict cant stop me Kashmiri influencers are censoring, lying low, but wont go offline
[10:56] matey Ariadne: would you consider putting a blank new container/vm for tuxmachines to migrate tuxmachines-old to? we can mostly manage from there on our own I think. <- this isnt my expertise, nor is it of importance to me
[10:56] matey i havent managed to avoid speculating anyway
[10:58] matey my GUESS is that a new container/vm wouldnt make any real difference. maybe it could, but my (pure speculation, without any expertise and probably wrong) is that this will be fixed with a quietly planned hardware upgrade. in other words, its nothing to worry about-- but also, theres nothing thats going to change it now
[10:58] TR News "Companies are doing something smart (and sometimes a bit gross) during this economicwhatever this is." https://danielmiessler.com/blog/the-workforce-pincer-move-during-recessions/ | Source: Daniel Miessler
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[11:00] matey i dont have any idea if im right, its probably something less obvious, only i cant think of any other explanation that makes sense
[11:01] matey without knowing more about these things its only the best guess i could manage
[11:01] schestowitz[TR] this is about tuxmachines
[11:01] matey yes
[11:01] schestowitz[TR] DB keeps breaking once in a while
[11:01] schestowitz[TR] then we revert back to backups
[11:02] matey yes
[11:02] TR News "In this guide, we will demonstrate how to install WordPress with LAMP on SUSE Enterprise Server 15." https://www.tecmint.com/install-wordpress-on-suse-linux/ | Source: TecMint
[11:02] TR Bot How to Install WordPress with LAMP on SUSE Linux Enterprise
[11:02] TR News "RAR is the most popular tool for creating and extracting compressed archive (.rar) files." https://www.tecmint.com/how-to-open-extract-and-create-rar-files-in-linux/ | Source: TecMint
[11:02] TR Bot How to Open, Extract and Create RAR Files in Linux
[11:02] matey and you showed i/o errors in the logs. i only know of three causes: bad controlled, bad media, MAYBE network mount issues but log entry didnt LOOK like network mount issues
[11:03] matey controller
[11:03] TR News "Monitorix is an open-source, free, and most powerful lightweight tool designed to monitor system and network resources in Linux." https://www.tecmint.com/monitorix-linux-network-monitoring-tool/ | Source: TecMint
[11:03] TR Bot Monitorix A Linux System and Network Monitoring Tool
[11:03] matey if it was easy to fix it would probably be fixed by now, i never doubt the competence here
[11:03] matey which leaves things that cant be fixed yet: hardware thats not trivial to replace
[11:04] matey i gave this about 5 minutes yesterday
[11:04] matey im probably wrong
[11:04] TR News "Both models feature Intels 12th generation Core processors (R680E Chipset) with support for up to 16 cores and 24 threads." https://linuxgizmos.com/asrock-unveils-edge-aiot-platform-based-on-alder-lake-s-processors/ | Source: Linux Gizmos
[11:04] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/asrock-unveils-edge-aiot-platform-based-on-alder-lake-s-processors/ )
[11:04] matey my guess is it will be fixed asap but waiting on availability/shipping
[11:04] TR News "In this round-up, we will talk about ROS, drones, football and robots that eat scrambled eggs." https://ubuntu.com//blog/the-state-of-robotics-may-june-2022 | Source: Ubuntu
[11:04] TR Bot State of Robotics May & June 2022 | Ubuntu
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[11:05] schestowitz[TR] matey: the aim is to upgrade the stack anyway
[11:05] schestowitz[TR] not that the old one is terrible
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[11:05] schestowitz[TR] it's just harder to support
[11:05] matey i believe youre referring to software, which isnt relevant here
[11:05] schestowitz[TR] we're not sure
[11:06] schestowitz[TR] whether the DB breaks due to the storage layer
[11:06] schestowitz[TR] or something else
[11:06] matey it looks very storagey. but when i say its not my area im not kidding
[11:07] matey my interest is idle/academic/boredom
[11:07] matey theres nothing on the telly
[11:07] TR News "GlassFish is an open-source Jakarta EE platform application server. It was initially developed by Sun Microsystems" https://www.rosehosting.com/blog/how-to-install-glassfish-on-ubuntu-22-04/ | Source: RoseHosting
[11:07] TR Bot to Install GlassFish on Ubuntu 22.04 - RoseHosting
[11:07] matey (and i dont own one anyway)
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[11:09] TR News "This detailed Docker tutorial covers the essential Docker commands" https://ostechnix.com/getting-started-with-docker/ | Source: OSTechNix
[11:09] TR Bot Commands Tutorial | Getting Started With Docker - OSTechNix
[11:10] TR News "If you find navigating your Git repositories frustratingly complex, have I got the tool for you. Meet Tig" https://opensource.com/article/22/7/visualize-git-workflow-tig | Source: OpenSource.com
[11:10] TR Bot I love Tig for visualizing my Git workflows | Opensource.com
[11:10] TR News "The most basic way to look at your files and folders is to use the commands ls and ll." https://opensource.com/article/22/7/manage-files-linux-terminal-ranger | Source: OpenSource.com
[11:10] TR Bot your files in your Linux terminal with ranger | Opensource.com
[11:14] TR News "This article will explain in step by step to install JASP free software on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS Jammy Jellyfish." https://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2022/07/how-to-install-jasp-spss-alternative-on-ubuntu-2204-and-later.html | Source: Ubuntubuzz
[11:14] TR Bot How To Install JASP (an SPSS Alternative) on Ubuntu 22.04 and Later
[11:18] TR News "Multiple driver updates have been released by NVIDIA for Linux recently so here's a look at what's new in each." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/nvidia-driver-51557-and-vulkan-beta-5154906-out-now/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[11:18] TR Bot driver 515.57 and Vulkan Beta 515.49.06 out now | GamingOnLinux
[11:19] TR News "recent overturning of Roe v. Wade in the USA" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/itchio-are-hosting-a-big-indie-bundle-for-abortion-funds/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[11:19] TR Bot are hosting a big Indie Bundle for Abortion Funds | GamingOnLinux
[11:21] TR News "A Trail of Ooze is an upcoming comedy adventure where you take on the role of a sarcastic cow" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/play-as-a-sarcastic-cow-in-the-comedy-adventure-a-trail-of-ooze/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[11:21] TR Bot as a sarcastic cow in the comedy adventure A Trail of Ooze | GamingOnLinux
[11:21] TR News SecureDLC https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/denuvo-announced-denuvo-securedlc-to-protect-dlc/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[11:21] TR Bot announced Denuvo SecureDLC to protect DLC | GamingOnLinux
[11:25] TR News Clownflare https://torrentfreak.com/broadest-us-pirate-site-injunction-rewritten-tamed-by-cloudflare-220704/ | Source: Torrent Freak
[11:25] TR Bot US Pirate Site Injunction Rewritten/Tamed By Cloudflare * TorrentFreak
[11:25] TR News "The world's leading anti-piracy coalition ACE has booked another major success." https://torrentfreak.com/ace-seizes-domains-of-large-sports-streaming-pirate-sites-220704/ | Source: Torrent Freak
[11:25] TR Bot Seizes Domains Of Large Sports Streaming Pirate Sites * TorrentFreak
[11:27] TR News "Aerofly FS 4 Flight Simulator from developer IPACS is out now on Steam with Native GNU/Linux support" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/aerofly-fs-4-flight-simulator-live-on-steam-with-linux-support/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[11:27] TR Bot FS 4 Flight Simulator live on Steam with Linux support | GamingOnLinux
[11:27] TR News "Feartress is a bit of a quirky one." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/feartress-is-a-new-incremental-city-building-rpg-in-early-access/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[11:27] TR Bot is a new incremental city-building RPG in Early Access | GamingOnLinux
[11:28] TR News "A second bundle (yes there's two) supporting people in the USA following the overturning of Roe v. Wade is live on itch.io" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/worthy-of-better-stronger-together-for-reproductive-rights-bundle-live-on-itchio/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[11:28] TR Bot of Better, Stronger Together for Reproductive Rights bundle live on itch.io | GamingOnLinux
[11:28] TR News "Desktopia: A Desktop Village Simulator seems like quite a unique idea for a city-builder" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/desktopia-is-a-city-builder-that-runs-along-the-bottom-of-your-desktop/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[11:28] TR Bot is a city-builder that runs along the bottom of your desktop | GamingOnLinux
[11:38] TR News Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166857
[11:38] TR Bot Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
[11:38] TR News Games: NVIDIA Drivers, Indie Bundle, Aerofly FS 4 Flight Simulator, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166856
[11:38] TR Bot Games: NVIDIA Drivers, Indie Bundle, Aerofly FS 4 Flight Simulator, and More | Tux Machines
[11:39] TR News "[Josh Pieper] of mjbots Robotic Systems just released a major revision to his moteus open sourced brushless DC (BLDC) electric motor controller." https://hackaday.com/2022/07/04/moteus-open-source-bldc-controller-gets-major-upgrade/ | Source: Hackaday
[11:39] TR Bot Open Source BLDC Controller Gets Major Upgrade | Hackaday
[11:42] schestowitz https://www.drupal.org/docs/upgrading-drupal/upgrading-from-drupal-6-or-7-to-drupal-9-or-later
[11:42] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.drupal.org/docs/upgrading-drupal/upgrading-from-drupal-6-or-7-to-drupal-9-or-later )
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[11:44] schestowitz very complex :/ https://www.drupal.org/docs/upgrading-drupal/upgrading-multilingual-drupal-6-to-drupal-9
[11:44] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.drupal.org/docs/upgrading-drupal/upgrading-multilingual-drupal-6-to-drupal-9 )
[11:46] matey imagine upgrading to something simpler
[11:46] schestowitz[TR] it's the likely route
[11:46] matey then instead of :/ it would be :)
[11:46] schestowitz[TR] but just checking the other options
[11:46] matey ofc
[11:46] schestowitz[TR] like exporting to hugoo
[11:46] schestowitz[TR] but then usernames and accounts won't work
[11:46] schestowitz[TR] tuxmachines is run by about a dozen people
[11:46] matey whats nice about simpler is if you need to do something, is more under your control
[11:47] matey but then usernames and accounts won't work
[11:47] matey i mean
[11:47] TR News ROCK 5B developer edition preview - Part 1: Unboxing and first boot to Debian 11 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166858
[11:47] TR Bot ROCK 5B developer edition preview - Part 1: Unboxing and first boot to Debian 11 | Tux Machines
[11:48] matey i dunno, when youre mixing people who know computers and people who... think windows / android are great
[11:48] matey thats always fun
[11:48] matey some of them use gnu/linux, but think its an upgrade when it turns into windows
[11:48] matey or they think flatpak is a good idea
[11:48] matey "just like apps, cool!"
[11:49] matey "not so cool"
[11:49] matey "markdown? wtf is that?"
[11:50] TR News StarFighter: A Linux Laptop with a 4K 10-bit IPS Display is Coming Soon http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166841#comment-34251
[11:50] TR Bot Star Labs Tease StarFighter, a Linux Laptop with 4K Display | Tux Machines
[11:50] matey i CAN imagine setting up something intermediate for such users then having updates translate their contributions to the primary format but
[11:50] matey like i said, when youre mixing people who know computers and people who...
[11:50] matey thats always fun
[11:51] matey ofc you could just move tm to gemini and then have pages translate automatically to html :D
[11:52] matey im sure all 12 could manage gemtext
[11:52] matey i dont imagine this is going to happen obviously
[11:53] matey gemini is what the world needs
[11:53] matey what the world wants is cocaine and heroin
[11:53] matey youll figure it out
[11:57] TR News Statistical Analysis Software on Ubuntu (Free and Open Source SPSS Alternatives) Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166859
[11:57] TR Bot Statistical Analysis Software on Ubuntu (Free and Open Source SPSS Alternatives) | Tux Machines
[11:58] TR News 6 Best Free and Open Source .NET Static Site Generators Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166860
[11:58] TR Bot 6 Best Free and Open Source .NET Static Site Generators | Tux Machines
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[12:00] schestowitz[TR] matey: several options on the table
[12:00] schestowitz[TR] one is, keep the old site running, as is...
[12:00] schestowitz[TR] then start a new one with another subdomain
[12:00] schestowitz[TR] and same RSS feed
[12:00] schestowitz[TR] and add new stuff there
[12:01] schestowitz[TR] but now you have to manage two sites, not one
[12:01] schestowitz[TR] there ar eupsides, too
[12:01] schestowitz[TR] *upsides
[12:06] TR News Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166861
[12:06] TR Bot Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
[12:06] schestowitz[TR] matey: thanks for these ideas
[12:06] schestowitz[TR] we're undecided
[12:09] schestowitz[TR] if we reduce working hours soon, we'll have more time to work on migrations
[12:16] schestowitz[TR] http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-120422.html#tApr%2012%2004:37:19
[12:16] TR Bot IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, April 12, 2022
[12:16] schestowitz[TR] the previous time we had this kind of problem
[12:20] schestowitz[TR] upsdie of two CMS
[12:20] schestowitz[TR] we can make the DB read-only for the old one
[12:20] schestowitz[TR] if it breaks we can restore from backup
[12:20] schestowitz[TR] and no changes in versions
[12:20] schestowitz[TR] so it's "legacy"
[12:21] schestowitz[TR] upsides: all the old stuff remains unchanged
[12:30] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-04.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-05.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[12:42] TR News Links 05/07/2022: Qubes OS 4.0 EOL | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/05/qubes-os-4-0-eol/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/05/qubes-os-4-0-eol/
[12:42] TR Bot Links 05/07/2022: Qubes OS 4.0 EOL | Techrights
[12:43] TR News Open Hardware/Modding: BLDC, POWER, and Embedded ML Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166863
[12:43] TR Bot Open Hardware/Modding: BLDC, POWER, and Embedded ML | Tux Machines
[12:43] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166864
[12:43] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines
[12:43] TR News Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166865
[12:43] TR Bot today's leftovers | Tux Machines
[12:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 28.53 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.63 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
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[13:25] TR News "Bezos accused President Joe Biden of "misdirection" and ignorance "of basic market dynamic" in response to a tweet" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/07/04/problem-corporate-greed-boss-bezos-blasted-defense-big-oil-price-gouging | Source: Common Dreams
[13:25] TR Bot 'The Problem is Corporate Greed, Boss': Bezos Blasted for Defense of Big Oil Price-Gouging
[13:27] psydroid2 Bezos needs more money
[13:34] MinceR https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/funny-pictures-5-23-22-25.jpg
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[14:08] MinceR (cat) https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/weekend-random-randomness-7-2-22-9.jpg
[14:32] psydroid2 someone is citing https://truelist.co/blog/linux-statistics for Windows being bigger in the server market, but is that true?
[14:32] TR Bot Linux Statistics - TrueList 2022
[14:34] psydroid2 or is it just that you need to spend a lot more on Windows servers to get the same or worse performance?
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[14:39] XRevan86 psydroid2: Obviously Linux is by far the most popular choice on the servers, if the statistics say otherwise, they're blatantly wrong.
[14:45] TR News The corporate media isnt mentioning this (nor does it mention Windows holes as often as it mentions Linux in relation to minor bugs or misattributed holes), but Windows share relative to other operating systems is rapidly decreasing http://techrights.org/2022/07/05/widening-gap/
[14:45] TR Bot The 20% Gap: Android (Linux-Powered) Exceeds 46%, Windows Down to 26% | Techrights
[14:46] TR News "If you know someone interested in promoting FLOSS and helping Collabora to build a business that can sustain and grow its contribution who has skills in marketing, and is capable of working with hacker-types ? please do direct them to our new a marketing role." https://meeksfamily.uk/~michael/blog
[14:46] TR Bot Stuff Michael Meeks is doing
[14:46] TR News "Today Collabora's app-store experiment with LibreOffice Vanilla was ended. In time we will write up and publish the data more widely, make final donations to TDF and as/when sensible finish up some Mac work in due course." https://meeksfamily.uk/~michael/blog
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[14:58] XRevan86 https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pipewire/wireplumber/-/releases/0.4.11
[14:58] TR Bot 0.4.11 PipeWire / wireplumber GitLab
[14:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 28.53 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.63 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
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[15:01] XRevan86 https://theins.press/en/news/252849
[15:01] TR Bot I'm terrified I might be here forever. Olympic star Brittney Griner arrested in Russia appeals to Biden
[15:01] XRevan86 https://theins.press/en/news/252857
[15:01] psydroid2 XRevan86, I responded to the person calling them out for FUD
[15:01] TR Bot Student sentenced to 6.5 years in Belarus for reposting Putin and Lukashenko criticism
[15:01] XRevan86 https://theins.press/en/news/252863
[15:01] TR Bot Another top Gazprom manager found dead in St. Petersburg
[15:03] XRevan86 https://pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/07/5/7356436/
[15:03] TR Bot An ammunition depot has exploded in occupied Donetsk | Ukrayinska Pravda
[15:04] XRevan86 psydroid2: It's not as much FUD as it is just wrong.
[15:09] MinceR https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/05/17/what-is-this-thing-reddit/
[15:09] TR Bot 25 Times People Asked The Internet What Is This Thing? And The Internet Delivered
[15:13] psydroid2 and FUD
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[15:29] TR News Texas Instruments AM6254 powered industrial SBC features dual GbE, CAN Bus, RS485, optional 4G/5G cellular networking Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166866
[15:29] TR Bot Texas Instruments AM6254 powered industrial SBC features dual GbE, CAN Bus, RS485, optional 4G/5G cellular networking | Tux Machines
[15:29] TR News Gtk 5 might drop X.11 support Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166867
[15:29] TR Bot Gtk 5 might drop X.11 support | Tux Machines
[15:29] TR News WebP Image: #HowTo Create, Convert to JPEG, PNG & View in Ubuntu and Other Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166868
[15:29] TR Bot WebP Image: How to Create, Convert to JPEG, PNG & View in Ubuntu and Other Linux | Tux Machines
[15:30] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-04.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-05.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[15:48] MinceR https://www.oglaf.com/inbound/
[15:48] TR Bot Inbound
[15:48] TR News The Next-Gen TUXEDO Pulse 15 is a Workstation Powerhouse http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166832#comment-34252
[15:48] TR Bot TUXEDO Pulse 15 Gen2 Linux Ultrabook Out Now with Ryzen 7 5700U, WQHD Display | Tux Machines
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[15:56] TR News Mario Kart https://hackaday.com/2022/07/04/think-you-know-how-mario-kart-works/ | Source: Hackaday
[15:56] TR Bot You Know How Mario Kart Works? | Hackaday
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[16:18] TR News KDE Slimbook Gen4 Linux Laptop Is Available Now with an AMD Ryzen 7 5700U CPU Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166869
[16:18] TR Bot KDE Slimbook Gen4 Linux Laptop Is Available Now with an AMD Ryzen 7 5700U CPU | Tux Machines
[16:19] schestowitz https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/rss-dead-look-numbers/
[16:19] TR Bot Is RSS Dead? A Look At The Numbers
[16:24] TR News Stop using proprietary voting machines altogether https://truthout.org/articles/proponents-of-the-big-lie-continue-push-for-illegal-access-to-voting-machines/ | Source: TruthOut
[16:24] TR Bot Proponents of the "Big Lie" Continue Push for Illegal Access to Voting Machines
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[16:28] TR News Extending gopher protocol handling gemini://tozip.chickenkiller.com/2022-07-05-gopher.gmi
[16:29] TR News Screen Magic, a Lantashi-short gemini://lantashifiles.com/gemlog/entries/2022-07-05.gmi
[16:31] TR News Bezos https://truthout.org/articles/second-richest-man-jeff-bezos-defends-oil-industry-price-gouging/ | Source: TruthOut
[16:31] TR Bot Second-Richest Man Jeff Bezos Defends Oil Industry Price-Gouging
[16:48] TR News "When one of your design goals for a 3D printer is fits through standard doors, you know youre going to be able to print some pretty big stuff" https://hackaday.com/2022/07/04/a-3d-printer-big-enough-to-print-a-kayak/ | Source: Hackaday
[16:48] TR Bot 3D Printer Big Enough To Print A Kayak | Hackaday
[16:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 28.53 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.63 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
● Jul 05
[17:03] DaemonFC Cats are pretty easy to take care of.
[17:03] DaemonFC If you leave for a few days, just give them an extra bowl of food and water, an extra pan of cat litter, and you're good.
[17:04] DaemonFC I remember going on vacation down to Arkansas in 1991. It was the first trip we went on in the 1992 Lumina, very shortly after dad bought it.
[17:04] DaemonFC We left the dog at a boarding center, and we got back and they had very clearly abused the dog now that I'm old enough to consider it.
[17:05] DaemonFC I was like 7 at the time. We came back after two weeks and the dog had become de-socialized and I went to take it for a walk and it was doing its business all over the field out behind their boarding center like they had barely even been walking it.
[17:06] DaemonFC Mom didn't want to take my dogs for a walk even though she was home most of the time thanks to my dad working full time, and she only needed to work as needed at the hospital for spending money back then.
[17:06] DaemonFC So she let that dog out and he chased a car and got it.
[17:07] DaemonFC My next dog was a lot smarter. She knew not to chase cars. She'd look both ways before she crossed the street and that was the only reason she lived 16 years with mom.
[17:09] DaemonFC Other than mom not walking the dog, that dog was okay with her. Mom would feed her the dog food, of course, but with lots of table scraps. The lady we got the dog from was going to a nursing home in 1994. She called the next morning to see how the dog was doing and we said she was fine and had biscuits and gravy that morning.
[17:09] DaemonFC That was always one of her favorites.
[17:10] DaemonFC You can't really get my cats to eat table scraps. I was trying to feed them actual turkey that I had left over and they wouldn't touch it.
[17:11] DaemonFC Only cat food. MinceR "Sustenance, sustenance. Cats like sustenance." Me throwing things in the cart after getting my first cat.
[17:13] TR News UART https://hackaday.com/2022/07/04/uart-cant-arduino-canserial-can/ | Source: Hackaday
[17:13] TR Bot Cant? Arduino CANSerial Can! | Hackaday
[17:18] TR News #HowTo Combine Two Text Files in Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166870
[17:18] TR Bot How to Combine Two Text Files in Linux | Tux Machines
[17:18] DaemonFC schestowitz, So mom's sick but we're just going down there without her. She's doing better on the medication, so is my brother.
[17:18] DaemonFC But they're both still obviously contagious.
[17:19] DaemonFC She said thank you to me last night for telling her about the medicine and pestering her to go down there.
[17:19] schestowitz[TR] goo
[17:19] schestowitz[TR] good
[17:19] schestowitz[TR] DaemonFC: we think of moving to anotrher CMS in tuxmachines
[17:19] DaemonFC She said my brother was getting worse quickly but the medicine seems to have turned it around. The only side effect they've had is she's got a metallic taste in her mouth sometimes when eating something.
[17:19] schestowitz[TR] weird question
[17:19] schestowitz[TR] how is wordpress?
[17:20] schestowitz[TR] I assumw rwordpress.com uses something on par with 6.0
[17:20] DaemonFC Probably the latest version.
[17:20] schestowitz[TR] wordpress MU
[17:20] DaemonFC Yeah, I chose my theme to make it pretty minimalist.
[17:20] DaemonFC It's fairly god for WYSIWYG.
[17:20] DaemonFC *good
[17:21] schestowitz[TR] tuxmachines has used the same CMS since you were about 20
[17:21] schestowitz[TR] but it upgrade drupal now and then
[17:21] DaemonFC You can switch to "code" editing, but I don't really use it that way. The WYSIWYG is fine for basic blogging.
[17:21] schestowitz[TR] *upraded
[17:21] DaemonFC tuxmachines looks about the same since then honestly
[17:21] schestowitz[TR] it should
[17:21] schestowitz[TR] same for techrights
[17:21] schestowitz[TR] same as in 2006
[17:22] schestowitz[TR] I've asked Ariadne if we can have a VM for the new site
[17:22] DaemonFC Moving to something else due to better maintenance or looks better in newer browsers?
[17:22] schestowitz[TR] and then take it from therer
[17:22] DaemonFC Moving everything over to it will be a pain in the ass I'm sure.
[17:22] schestowitz[TR] the stack TM uses is old
[17:22] schestowitz[TR] and getting less reliable lately
[17:22] Ariadne both are old
[17:23] DaemonFC That's just what happens with two incompatible formats from different eras.
[17:23] Ariadne anyway i will try to get some new containers up for the new site
[17:23] DaemonFC I actually still have WMA files even that I've just never bothered to get rid of, speaking of which.
[17:23] Ariadne but i am running in 2h sleep atm
[17:23] Ariadne because assholes were launching fireworks and shooting off their guns until 4:30am
[17:23] Ariadne when the cops finally showed up to shut it down
[17:24] DaemonFC Well, that's better than Waukegan.
[17:24] DaemonFC The fireworks are illegal. The cops were off chasing down the active shooter yesterday that turned Lake County into Boston Marathon 2.0.
[17:25] DaemonFC They never do anything about fireworks because it's low priority when something like this is NORMAL because it's Illinois.
[17:25] DaemonFC There actually is a "Normal, Illinois", but Illinois is not normal.
[17:25] DaemonFC Bunch of weirdos running the state with fantasy documents they call "laws".
[17:26] DaemonFC But MinceR might tell you that actually is normal for a state.
[17:26] DaemonFC Fireworks are "banned" (quotation fingers).
[17:26] schestowitz[TR] trying my wordpress.com account, I think of of the first 10 accounts there
[17:26] schestowitz[TR] I was a beta tester
[17:26] DaemonFC Guns are "banned" (quotation fingers).
[17:27] schestowitz[TR] Ariadne: thanks
[17:27] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], If you pay them they remove the advertising and stuff.
[17:27] DaemonFC Or you could self-host.
[17:27] schestowitz[TR] what we plan to do is keep one "legacy"
[17:27] schestowitz[TR] and start 'afresh'
[17:27] schestowitz[TR] beta.tuxmachines.org
[17:27] Ariadne the problem is that your old sites just hammer the database
[17:27] Ariadne all the time
[17:27] schestowitz[TR] later will add or archive the old site
[17:28] Ariadne what would be cool is if there was a CMS that generated a static website
[17:28] Ariadne like say, movable type
[17:28] schestowitz[TR] Ariadne: yes, hence the research we did today for ~5 hours into hugo and others
[17:29] schestowitz[TR] something rianne too can edit easily
[17:30] schestowitz[TR] drupal and wordpress became increasingly bloated in the user and server end, so we want to avoid DB altogether
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[17:35] SomeH4x0r hi
[17:35] matey hi
[17:35] schestowitz[TR] https://movabletype.org/start/
[17:35] TR Bot Get Started
[17:35] schestowitz[TR] they say you need a "licence"
[17:35] matey wow
[17:35] schestowitz[TR] iirc, that's why many people flocked away from it
[17:36] matey yeah then wordpress showed up after that
[17:36] matey thats like the gopher of web 2.0
[17:36] schestowitz[TR] I've tried the GUI of wordpress.com just now
[17:36] schestowitz[TR] it's still awful
[17:36] schestowitz[TR] you cannot even type the article properly before entering a title
[17:37] schestowitz[TR] and title should typically be entered LAST
[17:37] matey wordpress is shit
[17:37] matey for publishing, evem reading
[17:37] schestowitz[TR] it's a JS soup
[17:37] matey more like a sewage plant
[17:38] schestowitz[TR] a lot of CMS now uses "frameworks"... very bloated ones
[17:38] schestowitz[TR] like JS frameworks
[17:38] matey github, github everywhere
[17:38] schestowitz[TR] diaspora did not work without JUS
[17:38] schestowitz[TR] *JS
[17:38] schestowitz[TR] even for reading alone, IIRC
[17:38] matey diaspora was bloated
[17:38] matey wordpress might be worse
[17:39] matey but the daddy of them all is dickcourse
[17:39] matey it has more bloat than the entire web
[17:40] schestowitz[TR] even the hugo-like CMS
[17:40] matey its only competition is shitlab
[17:40] schestowitz[TR] bloat as dependencies
[17:40] schestowitz[TR] lots of github, too
[17:40] schestowitz[TR] but that's a given
[17:40] matey its all github
[17:40] schestowitz[TR] for things of that nature
[17:40] schestowitz[TR] or NPM, also github
[17:41] schestowitz[TR] crates are also github (rust)
[17:41] matey you can have more gh or less gh or write it all yourself in a gh language
[17:41] schestowitz[TR] i think many of these things will become obsolete within less than a decade
[17:41] schestowitz[TR] they swim in chaos and pull things from all over the place
[17:41] schestowitz[TR] we thought about adding tuxmachines to gemini
[17:41] matey if you run pypy on production (even i dont know if that sane) then maybe thats the least gh-laden way to have dynamic serverside (what youre trying to flee anyway)
[17:42] schestowitz[TR] but it mostly links to http/s site
[17:42] schestowitz[TR] which would limit appeal to ngeminauts
[17:42] matey static is easier to roll your own obviously
[17:42] schestowitz[TR] not always
[17:42] schestowitz[TR] not for RSS feeds
[17:42] schestowitz[TR] the key is rss feeds and it's not easy to make them auto-update as you add pages
[17:42] matey it woyld be a shame if link type was the main impediment to switching to gemini
[17:43] schestowitz[TR] tuxmachines adds about 50 pages per day and updates about 10
[17:43] matey the frameworks may get obsolete but the web has more than 10 years left
[17:43] matey longer than gnu
[17:43] matey i give gnu until 2029 to collapse
[17:44] matey its already started
[17:44] matey i would like the web to become legacy asap
[17:45] matey if the banks and repos move away then maybe... lol no
[17:45] matey not going to happen that fast
[17:45] matey even if the banks collapse theyll be back up before the web is gone
[17:46] schestowitz[TR] DaemonFC: found the code editor mode
[17:48] matey if the banks collapsed 7 days from now, heres what would happen
[17:48] matey government would just go more corporate
[17:48] matey it makes no sense but none of it does anyway
[17:48] matey the government is just a gui for the corporations anyway
[17:49] matey a friendly-looking interface that hides the fact that you control nothing
[17:49] matey itll get hacked, too
[17:49] matey but for now, its completely proprietary
[17:50] schestowitz[TR] I saw CMS come and go
[17:50] schestowitz[TR] squiz, mambo..
[17:50] matey its still here
[17:50] matey its just... more bloated
[17:50] schestowitz[TR] it's bad to choose something good if it'll die in 2 years
[17:50] schestowitz[TR] and then you wander again, looking for a replacemnet
[17:50] matey each order of magnitude of bloat gets its own trade name
[17:51] DaemonFC Wordpress has been around for a long time.
[17:51] DaemonFC I think that's a good sign.
[17:51] schestowitz[TR] I was among the first
[17:52] DaemonFC Ah, right. Almost time to head out. I think I'll stop somewhere along the way to find something to eat.
[17:52] schestowitz[TR] wordpress.com
[17:52] schestowitz[TR] and wordpress.org around the time we were thousands of sites
[17:52] schestowitz[TR] not millions
[17:52] DaemonFC Allons-y!!!
[17:52] schestowitz[TR] later it gotr big and bloated
[17:52] DaemonFC :)
[17:52] schestowitz[TR] and became a corporation
[17:52] schestowitz[TR] so I move on to other things
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[17:53] schestowitz[TR] matt lee complained about wordpress more than 10 yeras ago
[17:53] schestowitz[TR] said it required too many security updates
[17:53] schestowitz[TR] and then moved to something else
[17:55] schestowitz[TR] the state of content management software is depressing
[17:55] schestowitz[TR] been at it since morning, checked a lot of options, and it's not good
[17:56] schestowitz[TR] things became too big
[17:56] schestowitz[TR] or too complex
[17:56] schestowitz[TR] that happened with officd suites
[17:56] schestowitz[TR] before you know it ma and pa need to open some 500MB piece of software just to write asimple letter to the council
[17:56] schestowitz[TR] no wonder people gradually turn away and use other things
[17:57] matey matt lee complained about wordpress more than 10 yeras ago | said it required too many security updates
[17:57] matey my guess is that was pot and kettle time
[17:58] matey he surely pushes things that are equally silly. of course it doesnt make him wrong.
[17:59] matey and then moved to something else <- or intended to promote some other thing
[17:59] matey things became too big <- or too complex <- nobody ever got fired for saying the company car should be a hummer
● Jul 05
[18:01] matey bahahaha https://dev.to/bowmanjd/you-probably-don-t-need-systemd-on-wsl-windows-subsystem-for-linux-49gn
[18:01] TR Bot You Probably Don't Need systemd on WSL (Windows Subsystem for Linux) - DEV Community
[18:01] matey /me is finally convinced to migrate to wsl
[18:02] matey www.jenkins.io/blog/2022/03/25/systemd-migration/
[18:02] matey Beginning with Jenkins 2.335 and Jenkins 2.332.1, the Jenkins project is migrating from System V init (8) to systemd (1) in its official Debian, Red Hat, and openSUSE packages. The official Docker image and Helm chart remain unchanged.
[18:02] matey i dont even pretend to understand that
[18:03] matey i know what jenkins is, i would understand if they DID mean the docker image.
[18:03] matey they explicitly say the docker image wont change, so they mean something else.
[18:04] matey so how it has anything to do with systemd... i mean, obviously its NOT an init system
[18:04] matey its an operating system framework
[18:04] matey or its what ive long said it is-- a cuckold operating system that requires users to help raise it in their own nest
[18:04] matey THANKS IBM
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[18:05] matey systemd/linux
[18:05] matey where gnu? gnus dead, its tied up in my basement
[18:06] matey well sorry, when people say linux i actually refer to it as systemd/gkhnux
[18:07] matey so i guess its ibm jenkins
[18:07] matey the perfect tool for building ibm gcc
[18:08] matey the goebbels compiler collection
[18:09] TR News OFTC move by OpenWRT https://openwrt.org/irc?rev=1657022298&do=diff see http://techrights.org/2022/07/02/irc-dust-settled/
[18:09] TR Bot [OpenWrt Wiki] OpenWrt IRC Contact
[18:09] TR Bot After Freenodes Demise Its OFTC Thats Gaining in IRC, Not Libera.Chat | Techrights
[18:10] TR News Immediately no: TikToks new personalised ads will jeopardise rights in Europe - Access Now https://www.accessnow.org/immediately-no-tiktoks-personalised-ads-europe/ Source: accessnow
[18:10] TR Bot Immediately no: TikToks new personalised ads will jeopardise rights in Europe - Access Now
[18:11] matey its funny that many people havent noticed systemd is an operating system
[18:11] matey i mean theyve been going at it not (entirely) unlike gnu did
[18:12] matey gnu started out as a few things (such as an init system-- well, probably as a compile and editor)
[18:12] matey and grew into a full fledged system like systemd is doing
[18:12] matey but when red hat does it no one notices
[18:12] matey maybe they didnt notice because they already think linux is an os
[18:13] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166871
[18:13] matey i mean, they dont exactly have a finger on the pulse of development if they cant tell a kernel from userspace
[18:13] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines
[18:14] matey and since systemd uses linux and linux is an os, systemd must not be right
[18:14] matey 70 binaries and counting, but thats typical of any development these days
[18:14] matey slips right under the radar
[18:15] TR News software sustainability = buzzwords which distract from Freedom, the F in FSFE (it's not allowed to call itself FSFE anymore) https://fsfe.org/news/nl/nl-202207.en.html
[18:15] TR Bot Sustainability podcast +++ Job opportunity +++ Partial Router Freedom in Greece - FSFE
[18:16] TR News Mozilla hardly speaks about tech anymore https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/blog/listen-to-the-trailer-season-6-of-mozillas-podcast-irl-is-around-the-corner/
[18:16] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/blog/listen-to-the-trailer-season-6-of-mozillas-podcast-irl-is-around-the-corner/ )
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[18:22] MinceR 05 182613 < DaemonFC> But MinceR might tell you that actually is normal for a state.
[18:22] MinceR yes, it is
[18:23] MinceR and the "laws" don't apply to the state, nor do they apply to rich and powerful people.
[18:23] MinceR and they call this "rule of law"
[18:23] TR News Mozilla uses the same terminology as Microsoft lobbyists https://blog.mozilla.org/netpolicy/2022/07/05/mozilla-statement-as-eu-parliament-adopts-new-pro-competition-rulebook-for-big-tech/
[18:23] TR Bot Mozilla statement as EU Parliament adopts new pro-competition rulebook for Big Tech - Open Policy & Advocacy
[18:24] MinceR also, re sleep deprivation due to savages making noise: that's just the wonder of living in a city
[18:24] MinceR the savages feel like they don't even exist if they don't make at least an annoyance out of themselves
[18:24] TR News The problem is not the size of companies but their behaviour. Not even large company commits endless crime with impunity.
[18:26] TR News An Indian Code of Conduct is not a solution for de-platforming https://internetfreedom.in/indian-code-of-conduct-is-not-a-solution-for-de-platforming/ Source: internetfreedom
[18:26] TR Bot An Indian Code of Conduct is not a solution for de-platforming
[18:26] XRevan86 matey: What they mean is that official packaging for systemd-based distributions is moving to use systemd services instead of initscripts.
[18:28] MinceR https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/rotation
[18:28] TR Bot Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Rotation
[18:29] TR News Nest with Fedora 2022 registration now open! https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/nest-with-fedora-2022-registration-now-open/
[18:29] TR Bot Nest with Fedora 2022 registration now open! Fedora Community Blog
[18:29] matey that's just the wonder of living in a city <- not anymore
[18:29] matey the noisemaking shit is portable and they go everywhere in their fuckmobiles
[18:29] TR News These are not remote teams if they work from home. They are home teams. https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/7/it-talent-5-ways-better-leverage-remote-teams
[18:29] TR Bot IT talent: 5 ways to better leverage remote teams | The Enterprisers Project
[18:29] matey small towns are no refuge
[18:30] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-04.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-05.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[18:30] MinceR there aren't that many of them in villages though
[18:30] TR News Home is local, the office/workplace is away, remote
[18:30] matey its tempting to think of this as an ethnic issue but its not
[18:30] matey the immigrants have speakers blasting
[18:30] matey whitey has the pipes on his fuckcycle
[18:30] matey i honestly couldnt tell you which is worse
[18:30] TR News Red Hat wants you to be inspired by MBAs, not geeks
[18:31] matey whitey also has the pipes on his truck that looks like it ate 5 other trucks
[18:31] XRevan86 https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/07/05/the-guerrilla-war-on-belarus-s-railways "For months, Belarusian activists have been damaging railroads to hinder Russia's army. Now they could face the death penalty"
[18:31] TR Bot NO TITLE
[18:31] MinceR dead rat is run by suits, they can't be inspired by geeks
[18:31] TR News Why Fedora is the NEW default Linux desktop - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Z0m12drbnLQ Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia
[18:31] TR Bot Why Fedora is the NEW default Linux desktop - Invidious
[18:31] schestowitz[TR] matey: yes, that was my poiint
[18:31] XRevan86 The Moscow Times: Russian factory workers offered to take part in war in Ukraine "Russian factory workers offered to take part in war in Ukraine"
[18:32] schestowitz[TR] MinceR: ^
[18:32] matey Now they could face the death penalty <- for defending their country? unfucking real
[18:32] XRevan86 * https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/07/05/the-moscow-times-russian-factory-workers-offered-to-take-part-in-war-in-ukraine-news
[18:32] TR Bot .
[18:32] XRevan86 https://themoscowtimes.com/2022/07/05/a78211
[18:32] TR Bot Fast Food Giant Yum Brands Announces Plans to Leave Russia With KFC Sale - The Moscow Times
[18:33] matey damaging railroads (if theres no loss of life resulting) shouldnt be treated like a murder
[18:33] matey if youre damaging the railroads, thats obviously a hate crime
[18:33] matey railroads are a minority of course
[18:33] MinceR murder is obviously not a major crime in sociopaths' eyes
[18:33] XRevan86 matey: Defending one's country against Putin is not treated as such.
[18:33] MinceR it's not like it's copyright infringement or something like that
[18:34] matey matey: Defending one's country against Putin is not treated as such. <- i mean thats clear
[18:34] matey putin has his reality, and the rest of the world has their reality
[18:34] matey but theres a nuance
[18:34] matey i would apologise for running that joke into the ground but
[18:34] matey its found its way into my dna now
[18:35] matey i cant remove it without crispr
[18:35] XRevan86 matey: It has that effect :)
[18:35] matey and that would be unethical and probably violate several intenrnational conventions
[18:35] TR News The problem with murder is that it can kill you -> the problem with Windows is that it has updates
[18:36] matey it works with fortune cookes sort of
[18:36] matey you will have many exciting business opportunities this week
[18:36] matey but theres a nuance
[18:36] TR News This is considered pseudo-scientific and some security gurus say that changing a password a lot actually harms security https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/password-expiration-date-linux
[18:36] TR Bot How to set user password expirations on Linux | Enable Sysadmin
[18:37] XRevan86 matey: Next in queue is the gopher joke.
[18:37] matey this should be good
[18:37] matey they should have binary fortune cookies
[18:37] matey you know, you get two fortune cookies-- you open them, then you combine the two halves of the fortune
[18:39] matey /me hopes someone uploads the gopher joke to geminispace
[18:41] XRevan86 https://youtu.be/EHX7NZS8zAI
[18:41] TR Bot https://invidious.flokinet.to/watch?v=EHX7NZS8zAI
[18:41] TR Bot invidious.flokinet.to | . ? - Invidious
[18:41] XRevan86 - I'm 29 years old, there's an anniversary soon. And in the army I'm because my wife with the mother-in-law wanted to send me to the insane asylum, for my principles. Do ye see the gopher?
[18:41] XRevan86 - No.
[18:41] XRevan86 - I also don't. But it is there.
[18:41] TR News "LILYGO must be churning out at least one new ESP32 board every month, but I dont think theyve ever made one with ESP32-S3. LILYGO T-QT V1.1 board changes that and combines the dual-core WiFi 4 and Bluetooth LE 5.0 AI microcontroller with a 0.85-inch color display." https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/07/05/lilygo-t-qt-v1-1-a-cute-little-board-with-esp32-s3-and-a-0-85-inch-color-display/
[18:41] TR Bot LILYGO T-QT V1.1 - A cute little board with ESP32-S3 and a 0.85-inch color display - CNX Software
[18:41] XRevan86 A clip from this film: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demobbed_(2000_film)
[18:41] TR Bot Demobbed (2000 film) - Wikipedia
[18:41] matey I also don't. But it is there.
[18:42] matey i might need a hand with this one
[18:42] MinceR https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antigonish_(poem)
[18:42] TR Bot Antigonish (poem) - Wikipedia
[18:43] XRevan86 matey: It's not as much a joke as it is a highly referenced quote.
[18:43] TR News Unwrapping more gifts https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=onlogic-factor-201&num=1
[18:43] TR Bot Factor 201 Fits The Raspberry Pi CM4 For Industrial Needs & Other Innovative Uses - Phoronix
[18:43] matey we would call that an "inside joke" (or its similar to one)
[18:43] matey it has no context (originally) outside the film, right?
[18:44] matey actually we would probably call if a film references
[18:44] matey s/ces/ce/
[18:44] XRevan86 matey: https://youtu.be/TZCZ9DWCwuI?t=3423 nice
[18:44] TR Bot NO TITLE
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[18:46] matey im going to take all of it so they put me in the nuthouse
[18:46] matey id hate being in the military
[18:46] matey /me bets this is going to be better than clerks
[18:47] TR News "There is a lot of awesome audio content on Gemini and I realised I never wrote about what I do music-wise, time to change that!" gemini://typed-hole.org/journal/gonnagetyours.gemini
[18:47] matey it already has that kind of feel though https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clerks_(film)
[18:47] TR Bot Clerks (film) - Wikipedia
[18:47] XRevan86 matey: I'm meaning to watch it.
[18:47] TR News Sysadmining: E-Mail gemini://going-flying.com/~mernisse/29.gmi
[18:48] matey ive already learned a new word for peeing yourself
[18:48] matey (from the film)
[18:49] matey /me adds that as quickly as possible
[18:49] matey enuresis
[18:49] matey (according to the film)
[18:50] XRevan86 matey: That's specifically for bedtime though.
[18:50] XRevan86 https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/enuresis#English though maybe not necessarily
[18:50] TR Bot enuresis - Wiktionary
[18:51] matey Clerks was shot for $27,575 in the convenience and video stores where director Smith worked in real life. Upon its theatrical release, it received generally positive reviews and grossed over $3 million in theaters, launching Smith's career.
[18:51] matey It is considered a landmark in independent filmmaking and, in 2019, was selected for preservation in the United States National Film Registry by the Library of Congress as "culturally, historically, or aesthetically significant". <- bahahaha
[18:51] matey i feel that one film doubled my sense of cynicism
[18:51] matey i watched trainspotting the same week
[18:52] matey the difference between clerks and trainspotting is with the latter, youre (well, im) too repulsed to relate entirely
[18:53] matey but with clerks, you cant help it.
[18:53] matey mincer: "meh, kindergarten stuff"
[18:54] matey the running joke is that mincer is the most cynical person ive ever known
[18:54] matey /me is half kidding... probably
[18:54] matey incredibly, its not the russian
[18:55] matey but it could be a sith lord/apprentice situation
[18:55] MinceR i could use some Force powers
[18:55] matey no you couldnt
[18:55] matey if i were a god id give you some powers for sure
[18:56] matey but not the force
[18:56] matey youd end up on the dark side in about 38 seconds
[18:56] matey and the dark side has enough people already
[18:56] MinceR no, i'm already on the dark side
[18:56] MinceR probably always was
[18:56] matey well, same point, different premise
[18:56] TR News Links 05/07/2022: TUXEDO Computers and KDE Slimbook With More Laptops | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/05/tuxedo-computers/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/05/tuxedo-computers/
[18:56] MinceR i pretty much never liked order or stasis
[18:56] TR Bot Links 05/07/2022: TUXEDO Computers and KDE Slimbook With More Laptops | Techrights
[18:56] matey im somewhat of an expert on the dark side
[18:56] matey but not a practitioner
[18:57] MinceR and i never believed in having supernatural powers for the sake of not understanding them and not using them
[18:57] MinceR the light side is alien to me
[18:57] matey for the sake of not understanding them and not using them <- well thats... i mean thats a very superstitious (but commmon) take on power
[18:57] matey lucas didnt understand any of that
[18:57] TR News Fedora Family / Red Hat / IBM Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166872
[18:57] matey not more than he understood how to write a romance scene :/
[18:57] TR News Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166873
[18:57] TR Bot Fedora Family / Red Hat / IBM Leftovers | Tux Machines
[18:57] MinceR :>
[18:58] TR Bot today's leftovers | Tux Machines
[18:58] matey the dark side isnt the practical/applied side
[18:58] matey both sides have to be practical/applied
[18:58] matey and the dark side isnt evil
[18:58] matey and it isnt either/or
[18:58] MinceR indeed
[18:58] MinceR at least the way it's explained in Star Wars Saga Edition
[18:58] matey so really, lucas understood jack shit, and while "jedi" may be a religion
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[18:59] matey anyone who knew anything about the sources of it would have predicted the jedi would be useless
[18:59] MinceR but then, lucas is pretty ignorant when it comes to morality anyway
[18:59] matey the "light side" by itself is impotent
[18:59] matey and the dark side by itself is self-defeating
[18:59] MinceR i wouldn't want to use this light/dark thing any more than any of the D&D alignment systems
[18:59] matey lucas is pretty ignorant when it comes to morality anyway <- perfect for hollywood then
[18:59] MinceR :>
[18:59] MinceR yeah, fits well with abrahamism
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[19:00] matey abrahamism gets things wrong the way lucas does, but not half as poorly
[19:00] matey it gets most of it right, but then
[19:00] matey (assuming you can figure out "right" based on literally everything else)
[19:00] matey it gets most of it right and then it sort of folds its arms and goes "nyeh..."
[19:00] matey so the changes it would have to make would be small
[19:01] XRevan86 https://nitter.net/JuliaDavisNews/status/1544361566082109445
[19:01] matey and reformers are already halfway there
[19:01] TR Bot Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "Chechen parliament speaker Magomed Daudov says that first and foremost, Chechen battalions in Ukraine are fighting a jihad to defend Islam. Daudov says that unless Putin stops them, they will keep going until they reach Berlin."|nitter
[19:01] matey the funny thing is
[19:01] matey if you reform judaism all you get is--
[19:01] matey everything else :)
[19:01] matey but thats sort of the point. its all the same, and the main thing people get wrong is thinking their take is unique when it seriously fucking isnt
[19:02] matey abrahamism is probably egyptian
[19:02] MinceR reforming judaism is like forking systemd
[19:02] MinceR it's pointless
[19:02] MinceR there's nothing of value in there
[19:02] XRevan86 https://nitter.net/JuliaDavisNews/status/1544322674905812993
[19:02] TR Bot ( status 429 @ https://nitter.net/JuliaDavisNews/status/1544322674905812993 )
[19:02] matey i dont agree, like i said, its the same as everything else
[19:02] MinceR there's nothing of value in there that would be a good thing to build upon
[19:02] XRevan86 https://nitter.net/JuliaDavisNews/status/1544347166033858560
[19:02] TR Bot ( status 429 @ https://nitter.net/JuliaDavisNews/status/1544347166033858560 )
[19:02] matey the real problem comes from them not realising that
[19:02] matey and some do, and theres no problem
[19:03] matey judaism: our religion unites 12 different tribes into a whole
[19:04] matey hinduism: thats cute, weve got 50
[19:04] matey bhole: thousand!
[19:04] matey hinduism: dont try to question it
[19:04] MinceR bhole, also known as dhole?
[19:04] matey also known as bholenath
[19:04] matey (i dont get the joke sorry)
[19:05] MinceR https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAiSOPegpmc
[19:05] TR Bot https://invidious.privacy.gd/watch?v=AAiSOPegpmc
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[19:06] matey hmm
[19:06] matey probably something different
[19:06] MinceR :)
[19:06] XRevan86 Everything times out, eh.
[19:06] matey hinduism isnt really a religion, per se
[19:06] matey everybody had their own tribal religion
[19:06] matey then hinduism sort of refers to all of them together
[19:07] matey so not everyone has the same gods, and its fine
[19:07] matey IMAGINE
[19:07] matey not everyone worships the same gods-- and no one cares
[19:07] matey in the "same" "religion"
[19:07] matey of course there are always a few, arent there?
[19:07] matey so this statement is not entirely true
[19:08] matey but ive always said, if it wasnt religion it would be parties or football leagues
[19:08] matey or nations, or butter side up and butter side down
[19:08] matey people think marx wanted to get rid of religion (so some tried, in the name of marxism. or stalinism)
[19:09] matey lenin said that if people had a proper chance in life, religion would simply fall by the wayside
[19:09] MinceR big-endian vs little-endian
[19:09] MinceR marxism became a religion
[19:09] matey anything can become a religion
[19:09] matey unix could become a religion
[19:09] matey its better as an operating system
[19:09] TR News Getting fees in exchange for granting lots of patents (monopolies) is in some sense a form of bribert. EPO threw out the EPC and decided to maximise monopoly granting in exchange for bribes from many foreign corporations looking to eliminate competition in Europe.
[19:10] matey bsd is reform unix
[19:10] TR News "EPO management should be elected based on merits, not political or financial favours." http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2022/06/28/the-sovereigns-election/
[19:10] TR Bot The Sovereign's Election - Kluwer Patent Blog
[19:10] matey systemd is southern baptist
[19:11] matey theyve got snakes and trailers and faith healing and flat earthers
[19:11] matey but its all orthodoxy now
[19:11] matey have you heard the good news about lord poettering
[19:12] matey he came to save linux
[19:13] MinceR :>
[19:13] MinceR he's saving Linux like fideath saved our pensions
[19:14] matey like the republicans made it clear the government has no business deciding what people do with their bodies
[19:14] MinceR :>
[19:14] matey yo dawg, we herd you like jurisdiction...
[19:15] MinceR juris-my-dick-tion
[19:15] matey "who you callin a jew-ry-sticshun?"
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[19:19] techrights_guest|88 I think this one is good for apple-MacinToy
[19:19] schestowitz[TR] hi
[19:19] *techrights_guest|1616 is now known as matey
[19:21] techrights_guest|88 and i think this one is good for M$ "Save The World From Microsoft". its appropriate/
[19:21] techrights_guest|88 . typo
[19:21] matey let them know its jebusmas after all
[19:25] matey https://yewtu.be/watch?v=DYmAU3BXIpU
[19:25] TR Bot Tim Wilson Comedian "First Baptist Bar & Grill" - Invidious
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[19:28] techrights_guest|88 when systemd first started makin the rounds it started eating my hardware. didnt know what it was yet. took a minute to figure it out. but yeah. bad stuff. now its homd and thisd and thatd and whatever. been on devuan a while now. also have a freebsd build I have been self teaching for about a year now. It is more unix , and does what I
[19:28] techrights_guest|88 tell it. and I dont have pottering running my hardware.
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[19:54] AdmFubar https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jul/05/ukraine-russia-turkey-ship-grain-stolen
[19:54] TR Bot Turkey seizes Russian ship carrying stolen Ukrainian grain | Ukraine | The Guardian
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[20:00] TR News KDE Dev-Vlog 4: Too Much Spectacle! - Felix Ernst https://wordsmith.social/felix-ernst/kde-dev-vlog-4-too-much-spectacle Source: wordsmith
[20:00] TR Bot KDE Dev-Vlog 4: Too Much Spectacle! Felix Ernst
[20:01] TR News TDF/LibreOffice QA/Dev Report: June 2022 https://qa.blog.documentfoundation.org/2022/07/05/qa-dev-report-june-2022/
[20:01] TR Bot QA/Dev Report: June 2022 - LibreOffice QA Blog
[20:02] TR News SearXNG: The Open Source Metasearch Engine that puts your Privacy First https://medevel.com/searxng/
[20:02] TR Bot SearXNG: The Open Source Metasearch Engine that puts your Privacy First
[20:03] TR News "But not just Dead Rising! Valve has progressed in testing more games and we are at more than 3700 games validated (3719 games to be precise at the time of publication) on the Steam Deck in two categories..." https://boilingsteam.com/dead-rising-1-and-2-make-it-as-steam-deck-verified/
[20:04] TR Bot Dead Rising 1 and 2 Make it as Steam Deck Verified Titles - Boiling Steam
[20:04] TR News Microsoft front group https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/07/05/debugging-hedy-and-nostalgia-3-talks-openjs-world-2022
[20:04] TR Bot Debugging, Hedy, and nostalgia: 3 talks at OpenJS World 2022 | Red Hat Developer
[20:05] TR News Write a SystemTap script to trace code execution on Linux | Red Hat Developer https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/07/05/write-systemtap-script-trace-code-execution-linux Source: developers
[20:05] TR Bot Write a SystemTap script to trace code execution on Linux | Red Hat Developer
[20:05] TR News Behind open DORS - Conference organizers share their thoughts on Canonical, Ubuntu, snaps, and open-source | Ubuntu https://ubuntu.com//blog/behind-open-dors-conference-organizers-share-their-thoughts-on-canonical-ubuntu-snaps-and-open-source Source: ubuntu
[20:05] TR Bot open DORS Conference organizers share their thoughts on Canonical, Ubuntu, snaps, and open-source | Ubuntu
[20:05] XRevan86 https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/07/05/three-men-attack-military-unit-in-russias-bryansk-region-news "Three men attack military unit in Russias Bryansk region"
[20:05] TR Bot .
[20:10] TR News Linux laptops: This is a good option for those keen on customisation http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166874#comment-34253
[20:10] TR Bot Ubuntu laptops: Here are the top 10 picks | Tux Machines
[20:11] TR News Ubuntu laptops: Here are the top 10 picks Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166874
[20:11] TR Bot Ubuntu laptops: Here are the top 10 picks | Tux Machines
[20:19] TR News EPO Bought Elections and What That Means to Staff (When Bribery is the ‘New Normal) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/05/battistelli-is-back/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/05/battistelli-is-back/
[20:19] TR Bot EPO Bought Elections and What That Means to Staff (When Bribery is the New Normal) | Techrights
[20:28] TR News [Meme] Bribing Our Representatives at Our Expense | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/05/graft-as-bribes/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/05/graft-as-bribes/
[20:28] TR Bot [Meme] Bribing Our Representatives at Our Expense | Techrights
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[20:31] schestowitz[TR] Ariadne: I think we've found a suitable CMS
[20:31] schestowitz[TR] most of the traffic is from rss and new items
[20:31] schestowitz[TR] so that ought to help and also solve many other issues
[20:33] TR News Red Hat Satellite 6.11 is now available Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166875
[20:33] TR Bot Red Hat Satellite 6.11 is now available | Tux Machines
[20:33] TR News The Linux Directory Structure, Explained Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166876
[20:33] TR Bot The Linux Directory Structure, Explained | Tux Machines
[20:34] TR News GNOME 43 To Bring Some Exciting New Features http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166731#comment-34255
[20:34] TR Bot GNOME 43 to Bring Support for Web Apps in Software, New Device Security Info Panel | Tux Machines
[20:35] TR News Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166877
[20:35] TR Bot Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
[20:35] TR News Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166878
[20:35] TR Bot Today in Techrights | Tux Machines
[20:35] TR News China retires last Windows desktops for homegrown Linux distro http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166785#comment-34256
[20:35] TR Bot China rallies support for Kylin Linux in war on Windows | Tux Machines
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[21:02] TR News Install & Use GNOME Sushi to Quickly Preview Files in Ubuntu 22.04 | UbuntuHandbook https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2022/07/gnome-sushi-quickly-preview-files/ Source: UbuntuHandbook | FreeSW | GNU | Linux
[21:02] TR Bot Install & Use GNOME Sushi to Quickly Preview Files in Ubuntu 22.04 | UbuntuHandbook
[21:03] TR News "In this video, I am going to show how to install ArcoLinux 22.07.03." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=YZwVP2yY1G0
[21:03] TR Bot How to install ArcoLinux 22.07.03 - Invidious
[21:05] TR News Software Freedom Conservancy Issues Call to Give Up GitHub http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166677#comment-34257
[21:05] TR Bot Give Up GitHub: The Time Has Come! | Tux Machines
[21:11] TR News Obscene corruption in Europes second-largest institution is receiving the blind eye from national representatives, who are themselves an active part of this corruption; the EPOs reappointed dictator is already attacking union representatives, just like Battistelli did http://techrights.org/2022/07/05/battistelli-is-back/
[21:11] TR News Benot Battistelli and Antnio Campinos has fostered a culture of crime at the EPO and the people who let them go on are in fact part of the crime http://techrights.org/2022/07/05/graft-as-bribes/
[21:11] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166879
[21:11] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines
[21:13] TR News Privacy is DEAD, I have NOTHING TO HIDE, and other privacy myths and misconceptions - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=TdbIk__Yafs Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia
[21:13] TR Bot Privacy is DEAD, I have NOTHING TO HIDE, and other privacy myths and misconceptions - Invidious
[21:16] TR News More quantum-hype from NIST/NSA, proponents and spreaders of back doors https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/07/05/prepare-new-cryptographic-standard-protect-against-future-quantum
[21:16] TR Bot Prepare for a New Cryptographic Standard to Protect Against Future Quantum-Based Threats | CISA
[21:21] TR News SpellBinding: JYNSTUL Wordo: HAMES gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2022-07-05.gmi
[21:22] TR News "Back in April or so I discovered that rats are partying in my car's engine compartment" gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~stack/gemlog/2022-07-05.rat.gmi
[21:23] TR News "Signal is a proprietary chat app that ties accounts to phone numbers" gemini://idiomdrottning.org/signal
[21:24] TR News "Join the FSF and friends Friday, July 8, from 12:00 to 15:00 EDT (16:00 to 19:00 UTC) to help improve the Free Software Directory." https://www.fsf.org/events/fsd-20220708-irc
[21:24] TR Bot Free Software Directory on IRC: Friday, July 8, starting at 12:00 EDT (16:00 UTC) Free Software Foundation Working together for free software
[21:25] TR News Brenda is classic automata nightmare fuel | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/07/05/brenda-is-classic-automata-nightmare-fuel/ Source: Arduino | Hardware | OpenHardware | Hacking
[21:25] TR Bot Brenda is classic automata nightmare fuel | Arduino Blog
[21:27] TR News Disclosure missing. This publisher gets paid by Red Hat to produce these puff pieces. https://siliconangle.com/2022/07/05/red-hat-follows-open-source-game-plan-to-drive-the-enterprise-hybrid-future-rhsummit/
[21:27] TR Bot Hat follows open-source game plan to drive the enterprise hybrid future - SiliconANGLE
[21:27] schestowitz[TR] https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Lennart-Poettering-Out-Red-Hat
[21:27] TR Bot & Systemd Creator, Lennart Poettering, Reportedly Leaves Red Hat - Phoronix
[21:27] schestowitz[TR] MinceR: matey ^
[21:28] schestowitz[TR] "Lennart Poettering has made enormous contributions to the Linux/open-source ecosystem over the past roughly decade"
[21:28] schestowitz[TR] like troilling torvalds on stage?
[21:29] schestowitz[TR] "He was planning to remain an IBMer for another ten years, but like with so many processes these days, systemd-oomd terminated his employment process suddenly and without prior warning.
[21:29] schestowitz[TR] "
[21:29] schestowitz[TR] https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1332714-pulseaudio-systemd-creator-lennart-poettering-reportedly-leaves-red-hat
[21:29] TR Bot & Systemd Creator, Lennart Poettering, Reportedly Leaves Red Hat - Phoronix Forums
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[21:33] psydroid2 I've just noticed that prices of AMD processors have dropped substantially over the past few months
[21:33] schestowitz[TR] I heard in some cases they give them away for free
[21:33] schestowitz[TR] I even wrote about it in February
[21:34] psydroid2 yes
[21:34] schestowitz[TR] it's a currnecy they uese in the market budget
[21:34] psydroid2 from 300 to 175 in one year
[21:34] psydroid2 for a processor from last year
[21:35] psydroid2 so why not wait if you already have something that works well
[21:35] psydroid2 they are counting on people being swayed by marketing to buy the lastest and greatest for "gaming"
[21:35] TR News Red Hat Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166880
[21:35] TR Bot Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines
[21:36] TR News Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166881
[21:36] TR Bot Security Leftovers | Tux Machines
[21:36] schestowitz[TR] maybe they should fix the games instead
[21:36] schestowitz[TR] make them more efficient like DOOM
[21:36] psydroid2 I think that's a feature
[21:37] psydroid2 inefficiently implemented games sell new hardware
[21:37] schestowitz[TR] to sell GPU nvidia wants real -time (!) ray-tracing look chique
[21:37] schestowitz[TR] it looks worse to me than texturised (offline)
[21:38] psydroid2 those GPUs also become more expensive and use more power all the time
[21:38] TR News Linux is more popular than ever, thanks to Valves Steam Deck | PCGamesN https://www.pcgamesn.com/steam-deck/linux-market-share-popularity Source: pcgamesn
[21:38] TR Bot is more popular than ever, thanks to Valves Steam Deck | PCGamesN
[21:39] psydroid2 if you have to pay 10 a day for gaming just for electricity bills, it's going to become a very expensive hobby
[21:41] TR News Pixel 3A becomes the first device to achieve a 100% Ubuntu Touch support score Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166882
[21:41] TR Bot Pixel 3A becomes the first device to achieve a 100% Ubuntu Touch support score | Tux Machines
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[23:08] SomeH4x0r hi
[23:11] matey hi
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[23:25] matey wow
[23:26] SomeH4x0r hi
[23:26] matey hi
[23:37] scientes XRevan86 I am considering (actually, more than considering) trying to climb over the mountains of Abkhasia again
[23:37] scientes I still am thinking it better than flying to Moscow
[23:37] scientes but maybe I am crazy
[23:38] XRevan86 scientes: hi, long time no see.
[23:38] XRevan86 scientes: It *is* pretty crazy.
[23:38] scientes last time I was abducted, put in a Tbilisi GULAG, and then deported, not to Russia or a neighboring state, but over the north pole
[23:39] scientes the thing is, Abkhasia is the same culture of Georgia, which means, aside from the crazy government in Tbilisi, it is pretty chill
[23:39] XRevan86 scientes: What happened?
[23:39] scientes pretty much as I said
[23:40] scientes yeah I finially got a full time job
[23:40] scientes so maybe I should cancel the ticket I bought today to Tbilisi---the ticket to Moscow is 3X the cost
[23:40] matey last time I was abducted, put in a Tbilisi GULAG, and then deported, not to Russia or a neighboring state, but over the north pole <- youve got to be kidding
[23:40] scientes no
[23:40] scientes I am in the US now
[23:40] matey hahaha
[23:41] matey where in the us
[23:41] scientes and I was deported for trying to leave Georgia
[23:41] scientes not joking
[23:41] matey even if youre serious its still...
[23:41] matey maybe theres a russian word for it
[23:42] XRevan86 > (2022-05-21 01:20:11) XRevan86: https://youtu.be/Kf9e22oank4 content for scientes, who's not here
[23:42] XRevan86 > (2022-06-14 22:07:35) XRevan86: psydruid, SomeH4x0r: https://youtu.be/nSfWKA0qrok heard that?
[23:42] TR Bot https://tube.cthd.icu/watch?v=Kf9e22oank4
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[23:42] TR Bot https://invidio.xamh.de/watch?v=nSfWKA0qrok
[23:42] TR Bot invidio.xamh.de | ! - "" - Invidious
[23:42] SomeH4x0r I didn't
[23:43] XRevan86 scientes: If case ye haven't heard, things aren't great in Russia right now.
[23:43] matey maybe he missed it somehow
[23:44] scientes OK, I think I should save up for this ticket to Moscow
[23:44] scientes there are only a few airlines flying there
[23:44] XRevan86 https://theins.press/en/politics/252879
[23:44] scientes even Dubai just dropped out
[23:44] TR Bot Leaving without saying goodbye. While Moscow and Beijing are playing best buddies, Chinese companies are jumping ship
[23:45] XRevan86 https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/07/05/the-party-line "How United Russia is instructing its candidates to talk about the war against Ukraine"
[23:45] TR Bot NO TITLE
[23:47] scientes I just wish I knew whether it would work
[23:47] scientes before I tried it *a second time*
[23:47] matey /me wonders what the goal is
[23:47] matey you need a good goal imo to try something crazy
[23:48] matey unless the goal is getting deported
[23:49] XRevan86 SomeH4x0r: It's very direct, which is something I cannot say about the latest single of Little Big.
[23:50] scientes I just wish I knew how shitty this fish job is going to be
[23:50] matey over 9000
[23:51] *XRevan86 looked it up, TIL I guess.
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[23:54] XRevan86 > (22:53:10) scientes left the room (Ping timeout: 2m30s).
[23:55] XRevan86 Well that's that.
[23:56] XRevan86 To dare enter Russia just to climb some mountains in an unrecognised republic
[23:57] XRevan86 A way to get barred from Georgia for good probably.
[23:59] MinceR 06 004336 < XRevan86> scientes: If case ye haven't heard, things aren't great in Russia right now.
[23:59] MinceR were they ever?
[23:59] matey maybe he will come to his senses
[23:59] matey maybe he wont even get there before being dropped off in hungary with a note on his back that says "get a clue mate"
[23:59] matey in russian
[23:59] MinceR lol