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● Aug 05
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[00:14]	XRevan86	MinceR: I mean, information or whether it even works or not.
[00:14]	XRevan86	* on whether
[00:15]	XRevan86	I don't want to check it myself.
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[00:23]	DaemonFC	<schestowitz-TR> DaemonFC: you are also 50% postman :-)
[00:23]	DaemonFC	<schestowitz-TR> but don't tell felta, it'll make him felta kinda bad
[00:23]	DaemonFC	The Postman was one of his favorite movies.
[00:23]	DaemonFC	I told him tha, if anything, the Trump supporters are the Holnists.
[00:31]	activelow	so, tried to register with irc.com
[00:32]	activelow	entered all data into the form, register, click, and a red bar appears on top without error message. no confirmation mail, and account data remains invalid.
[00:33]	XRevan86	activelow: So https://twitter.com/FangzhenS/status/1422521855521353728 this is confirmed.
[00:33]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FangzhenS: Hi, Freenode. How can I figure what happened when doing register in https://t.co/DWaQ9tWS8u: https://t.co/GFgqvOItfq @freenodestaff
[00:33]	activelow	it is an old firefox version (non-rust), behind privoxy. which mostly allows for most modern web/js stuff (online banking, amazon, ebay) without problems
[00:34]	DaemonFC	LOL NO VO has another BIOS update.
[00:34]	DaemonFC	This one closes like a million CVEs.
[00:34]	DaemonFC	Quality!
[00:34]	XRevan86	activelow: I doubt that's relevant.
[00:34]	DaemonFC	Backing everything up in case it bricks Bitlocker again.
[00:34]	activelow	mail account is @live.com
[00:35]	XRevan86	I think that explains why the usercount on freenode falls so intensely: there is no possibility for anything else whatsoever.
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[00:35]	activelow	the mail account didn't cause any problem before, and wasn't mis-used for anything
[00:36]	activelow	it is rarely used ever, maybe one mail per year
[00:37]	XRevan86	yep, I just tried it
[00:37]	XRevan86	let's try Chromium
[00:38]	XRevan86	same thing
[00:39]	XRevan86	activelow: I just tried entering a gmail, and it went through
[00:41]	XRevan86	they clearly have a whitelist of allowed email domains
[00:41]	XRevan86	no, it's a blacklist
[00:42]	XRevan86	I hope they'll delete the two names I just made %)
[00:42]	XRevan86	IIRC, they will.
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[00:43]	DaemonFC	Okay, that one installed.
[00:45]	DaemonFC	Version F8CN34WW (V1.12) BIOS Notification: Added:
[00:45]	DaemonFC	N/A Modified:
[00:45]	DaemonFC	1. Rollback ME to 15.0.10.1447.
[00:45]	DaemonFC	2. Update verbtable to 0511 as audio team request.
[00:45]	DaemonFC	3. Update BOE NV156FHM-N4S brightness table
[00:45]	DaemonFC	4. PCR for CP20210309_0004 Change SMB all products brightness table to follow ThinkPad Alignment.
[00:45]	DaemonFC	5. Enhancement to address security vulnerability CVE-2020-24511, CVE-2020-24512.
[00:45]	DaemonFC	6. Enhancement to address security vulnerability CVE-2020-0589, CVE-2020-8700, CVE-2020-8670, CVE-2020-12357, CVE-2020-12358, CVE-2020-12359, CVE-2020-12360 and CVE-2020-24486.
[00:45]	DaemonFC	7. Enhancement to address security vulnerability CVE-2020-24489.
[00:45]	DaemonFC	8. Enhancement to address security vulnerability CVE-2020-24508, CVE-2020-24509, CVE-2020-8704, CVE-2020-24507, CVE-2020-8703, CVE-2020-24506. Fixed:
[00:45]	DaemonFC	1. Fixed:AUO touchpanel has no function
[00:45]	DaemonFC	2. Fixed:Lenovo custom picture in post interface will flash one time then enter OS when Running Logo DIY. (TDMS #273321) [Embedded Controller] Fixed:
[00:45]	DaemonFC	N/A Modified:
[00:45]	DaemonFC	Rename from V2.04A. Add function:
[00:45]	DaemonFC	N/A
[00:45]	DaemonFC	LENOVO - Where our changelog makes no sense and has typos.
[00:45]	DaemonFC	For something that might destroy a $1,200 laptop.
[00:45]	DaemonFC	Have fun with that.
[00:46]	DaemonFC	schestowitz, That's 17 CVEs fixed in one BIOS update.
[00:46]	DaemonFC	And they've updated the BIOS 13 times and the computer was released in December.
[00:47]	activelow	some aarch64 laptops are fully liberated with u-boot, good luck finding any for sale
[00:49]	XRevan86	activelow, CrystalMath: O.K., so the question of the mystery red dot error message is answered: it's an email domain blacklist.
[00:51]	CrystalMath	XRevan86: freenode uses a simple one
[00:52]	CrystalMath	block-temporary-email.com or something
[00:52]	CrystalMath	it's on the website
[00:52]	MinceR	so much effort to slowly kill an irc network
[00:52]	CrystalMath	MinceR: actually this is not new ;P
[00:52]	activelow	it isn't a temporary mail account, tried some guerrilla mail account a moment ago, this one failed too as expected. but @live.com ?
[00:52]	CrystalMath	temporary email has been blocked for accounts for years
[00:52]	XRevan86	CrystalMath: Does it block Outlook.com?
[00:53]	CrystalMath	i don't really know
[00:53]	CrystalMath	oh but you probably also can't reuse email
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[00:53]	MinceR	1 domain per account?
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[00:53]	XRevan86	CrystalMath: I just wrote some bullcrap at outlook.com and it failed.
[00:53]	CrystalMath	MinceR: lol no
[00:53]	MinceR	not yet?
[00:53]	CrystalMath	and there was a linode-based botnet
[00:53]	CrystalMath	i think it used microsoft's email
[00:54]	MinceR	there was a botnet, time to shut down irc.
[00:54]	CrystalMath	well we got rid of it
[00:54]	CrystalMath	long ago
[00:54]	MinceR	freenode? yes we did
[00:54]	CrystalMath	this was june
[00:54]	XRevan86	Of IRC? Yea :D
[00:54]	XRevan86	MinceR: Beat me to it.
[00:54]	CrystalMath	no the botnet :P
[00:54]	CrystalMath	IRC came later
[00:54]	CrystalMath	:P
● Aug 05
[01:01]	activelow	confirmed: @live.com is blacklisted
[01:02]	XRevan86	anyway, great error message
[01:02]	activelow	"You have now registered and you're ready to go."
[01:02]	activelow	with a german webmail provider
[01:02]	XRevan86	activelow: Too far :D
[01:02]	activelow	this one won't be anonymous
[01:04]	activelow	sasl auth ok. now lets try onion,
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[01:09]	XRevan86	Well, at least we know it's working. Could answer these guys if anyone cares.
[01:09]	XRevan86	and the reset link is broken
[01:10]	XRevan86	activelow: ^ check that one out too please
[01:10]	activelow	XRevan86: with onion in place -> SSL handshake failed: server closed connection unexpectedly
[01:10]	XRevan86	activelow: Ye've forgotten your password immediately, it's very sad
[01:11]	XRevan86	CrystalMath: Even with registration freenode just doesn't trust Tor, eh?
[01:12]	activehigh/fn	yes, maybe it isn't irc.com but someone else blocking 6697
[01:13]	MinceR	is there no hidden service anymore?
[01:13]	DaemonFC	<MinceR> so much effort to slowly kill an irc network
[01:13]	DaemonFC	Nasty Liberal Chat replaces it because power abhors a vacuum.
[01:13]	MinceR	also because the problem wasn't the name, it was the staff
[01:13]	MinceR	though i'm not sure what's liberal about it
[01:14]	MinceR	maybe it's the usian version of "liberal", which has nothing to do with the original meaning
[01:14]	XRevan86	MinceR: It's liberated from Andrew Lee, obviously
[01:15]	MinceR	is it?
[01:15]	MinceR	he seems to be living rent free in many of their minds
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[01:15]	XRevan86	MinceR: free entertainment, even I can't help but keep getting back to the topic
[01:15]	MinceR	someone posted global user count 4 times in the last hour on a particular channel there
[01:16]	XRevan86	also past trauma and some heated discussions, that helps a lot too
[01:16]	activelow	apropos: There are 1163 users and 10092 invisible on 27 servers
[01:17]	XRevan86	activelow: still somewhat larger than Rizon, give it a day
[01:17]	activelow	-1 again, dropped it
[01:18]	activehigh/fn	and ...
[01:18]	activelow	gone
[01:19]	MinceR	https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/-VIroBySrlpb_K06PqBGToQ6fsnaNeCBt-3fSKDJSK1zxBTNP4FoUusCBLvBmJPEPwKYCphYTL-bm7I3i-ND7GQ1mnA8iTUQgCK_nOcMXDc84OJRBvX98G8
[01:19]	XRevan86	Rizon: "Current global users: 10902"
[01:19]	activelow	rizon doesn't require registration
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[01:20]	XRevan86	activelow: Still 300 hundred users less.
[01:21]	XRevan86	activelow: Tomorrow freenode will become the seventh largest IRC network.
[01:21]	activelow	irc.com != freenode
[01:21]	XRevan86	activelow: semantics
[01:22]	XRevan86	"new freenode", "leenode", "IRC.com", whichever floats your boat.
[01:22]	activelow	if any service did justice to the idea of freenode then it is, maybe, techrights
[01:24]	XRevan86	activelow: Libera and OFTC are the only two IRC networks that make FOSS projects their priority, that's what freenode was about.
[01:24]	XRevan86	at least as far as service goes
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[01:25]	activelow	to my knowledge some interesting participants are present here
[01:28]	MinceR	that's an interesting interpretation of priority
[01:28]	MinceR	XRevan86: what do you think the anti-RMS mob's agenda is?
[01:28]	MinceR	are they trying to just kill off free software or to facilitate ibm's takeover of the fsf so they can grab a lot of gratis code?
[01:30]	MinceR	or perhaps they're trying to capitalize on this widespread belief that either no other IRC networks exist or that it's impossible to discuss free software on other networks in an attempt to intimidate and rule the community?
[01:30]	MinceR	(it seems to be working on the FSF)
[01:33]	XRevan86	MinceR: The concept is simple: on these networks a FOSS project always has a claim on a same-named namespace.
[01:33]	MinceR	so what?
[01:33]	XRevan86	One cannot just call dibs on a channel name like on freenode these days.
[01:34]	MinceR	what if i start freenode3, where every FOSS project always has a claim on a same-named namespace, but no clients actually get to connect to the network?
[01:34]	XRevan86	MinceR: The best of both worlds
[01:34]	MinceR	hmm, maybe i'll call it 3node
[01:37]	MinceR	it could be 3 ircd-s linked together, with no publicly accessible ports
[01:38]	XRevan86	MinceR: Will there be an SSO?
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[01:40]	MinceR	there will be ZSO instead
[01:40]	MinceR	Zero Sign-On
[01:40]	XRevan86	MinceR: At least not a ZPM
[01:40]	MinceR	there will be 0 places to sign on and signing on 0 times will be sufficient
[01:40]	MinceR	:>
[01:43]	XRevan86	Anyway, that's pretty much why Libera and OFTC got all of that FOSS project dough, it's not just network effect and reputation.
[01:43]	MinceR	they get actual money, not just gratis server leases?
[01:45]	MinceR	whatever it is, the way they're going, they'll only get it from woke people eventually
[01:45]	XRevan86	MinceR: Uh, no, just the recognition.
[01:45]	MinceR	and it will only be used by woke people
[01:46]	XRevan86	MinceR: DaemonFC got the boot from Matrix.org two or three times before he gave up.
[01:46]	XRevan86	freenode^W Libera is nowhere near as strict.
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[01:48]	MinceR	did the matrix people take part in attempting to cancel RMS for saying things he did not actually say?
[01:49]	XRevan86	MinceR: Would be funny if anyone would use that argument against techrights.
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[01:49]	MinceR	i don't see how
[01:50]	XRevan86	MinceR: Ye really don't?
[01:50]	MinceR	yeah
[01:51]	activelow	i remain sceptical, for what is misprepresented by fsf and gnu, since when GCC transmutated into what it is for example
[01:52]	XRevan86	MinceR: A valued associate of techrights signed a letter against RMS when he was most vulnerable. Is that not technically correct?
[01:52]	MinceR	there are plenty of problems with both, just not what ibm's puppets are spewing
[01:52]	MinceR	XRevan86: one person, who has retracted their signature already
[01:53]	activelow	both gcc and llvm/clang are powerful compilers with permissive licenses, nonethless i don't consider neither free and open
[01:54]	MinceR	understandable
[01:54]	MinceR	which is one of the reasons i'm looking for a way to get away from c++ in its remaining use cases
[01:54]	MinceR	i figure macros on top of lisp/c or c-mera could do the trick eventually
[01:55]	XRevan86	MinceR: How many people from Libera signed?
[01:55]	activelow	even worse, the entire foss ecosystem fully locked into these, even if i wanted something sane and simple to study, something which can be handed over to an undergraduated with some book to study and learn in a few month (instead of a lifetime)
[01:55]	MinceR	XRevan86: at least 3
[01:56]	MinceR	not all of them are disclosing their real names
[01:57]	XRevan86	MinceR: That would be a majority on IRC.com but not Libera.Chat.
[01:57]	MinceR	afaik none of the staff on irc.com signed the letter, though they're even more secretive about their identities
[01:59]	XRevan86	MinceR: Is that all that matters? Not even that there were people there who were known for not knowing boundaries all that well?
[01:59]	MinceR	no
[01:59]	MinceR	it's just one aspect of this shitshow
[01:59]	MinceR	and a particularly disgusting aspect at that
[01:59]	DaemonFC	Looks like Liberty Mutual has good rates for me too.
[01:59]	XRevan86	MinceR: It's those people who *actually* screwed RMS' projects' IRC presence.
● Aug 05
[02:00]	MinceR	no, those people are at the FSF
[02:00]	DaemonFC	Hmm, the math really has changed. Used to be that Progressive and Geico were really cheap and so was Root.
[02:00]	DaemonFC	Now it's MetroMile, Allstate, and Liberty.
[02:00]	activelow	if rms intended to support fsf/gnu then, maybe, he could make a proposal for how 10million lines of code, at least, can be deleted from gcc
[02:00]	MinceR	who decided to move to illibera despite the warnings they received
[02:00]	activelow	or, set a maximum, such as 500000 lines of code for entire gcc
[02:00]	MinceR	rms doesn't believe in non-bloatware :>
[02:00]	XRevan86	MinceR: Is that an opinion or a fact? Answer that question to yourself.
[02:01]	MinceR	XRevan86: it's pretty well documented
[02:01]	XRevan86	MinceR: I mean your reply to me.
[02:01]	MinceR	XRevan86: their channel on freenode was taken over _after_ they decided on the move and published their intentions
[02:02]	XRevan86	MinceR: They were planning a long transition period, and who knows what could've happened.
[02:02]	MinceR	who cares
[02:02]	MinceR	it would have still been a transition to illibera
[02:02]	XRevan86	MinceR: FSF, GNU, RMS, they probably care.
[02:02]	CrystalMath	MinceR is correct, and it means an acknowledgement of the character assassinatin
[02:02]	MinceR	and ibm's stooges could have easily waited for them to end the transition period and then start threatening and/or klining people
[02:02]	CrystalMath	*assassination
[02:02]	MinceR	XRevan86: i don't think they care about anything anymore
[02:02]	CrystalMath	the very fact that FSF decided to move means something
[02:03]	CrystalMath	because there's a reason why
[02:03]	MinceR	they didn't care when ibm took over most linux distros using systemd
[02:03]	CrystalMath	and that reason then was bullcrap
[02:03]	CrystalMath	they'd maybe have a reason now
[02:03]	MinceR	their channels were massive pro-systemd echo chambers
[02:03]	CrystalMath	but that's besides the point :P
[02:03]	CrystalMath	in other words, even if freeonde dies now, that does NOT excuse illibera
[02:03]	MinceR	rms didn't care, he called this attack on our freedom "free software"
[02:03]	MinceR	and now that ibm's agents tried to cancel rms again, they just walked into the arms of their enemies again
[02:04]	XRevan86	MinceR: Is InitWare free software?
[02:04]	MinceR	i don't know initware
[02:04]	XRevan86	Easy to look up.
[02:05]	MinceR	why should i care?
[02:05]	MinceR	ew, that's fucking disgusting
[02:05]	MinceR	is it supported by anyone who has power over openbsd?
[02:05]	MinceR	it's obviously not free software
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[02:06]	MinceR	i'm guessing jordan hubbard loves it
[02:07]	XRevan86	MinceR: "is it supported by anyone who has power over openbsd?" this is funny, because no one said anything about OpenBSD being involved.
[02:08]	XRevan86	Anyway, interesting opinion.
[02:08]	MinceR	well, that's what the web search popped up among the first results
[02:09]	MinceR	i know that jordan hubbard tried to cram something similar into freebsd, it would be useful to know whether there's a similar credible effort to corrupt other bsd-s
[02:09]	DaemonFC	In some ways, mileage based insurance is better anyway.
[02:10]	DaemonFC	It encorages you to combine trips and really think about if you need to use the car at all to do something.
[02:10]	DaemonFC	*encourages
[02:10]	DaemonFC	Better for air pollution and it keeps miles off the car.
[02:11]	MinceR	sounds like you don't actually want to own or use a car :>
[02:11]	XRevan86	MinceR: Very Usonian.
[02:11]	MinceR	is it?
[02:11]	MinceR	i thought usonians loved cars
[02:12]	XRevan86	MinceR: They also kind of have to own one.
[02:12]	DaemonFC	That part.
[02:12]	MinceR	so do hungarians who live outside the biggest towns
[02:12]	XRevan86	So hating automobiles but using them anyway is a very Usonian thing to do.
[02:12]	MinceR	:>
[02:12]	DaemonFC	Exactly.
[02:13]	DaemonFC	As soon as you pay an average of $40,000 plus taxes and interest, you too can have one.
[02:13]	DaemonFC	Then you can buy gasoline and insurance and maintain it. The maintaining it part is very important.
[02:13]	DaemonFC	We have some of the finest potholes in the world.
[02:15]	MinceR	do usian automobile "journalists" whine about the popularity of SUVs and pickup trucks too?
[02:18]	DaemonFC	No, they promote them as something you simply must buy.
[02:18]	DaemonFC	No, really, you must buy them, or soon that will be the case.
[02:19]	DaemonFC	Each year, there's less and less sedans, so you don't have a choice really. They make "small SUVs".
[02:21]	MinceR	i guess the potholes really are worse over there
[02:22]	MinceR	over here the "journalists" are still grumpy about people not buying cars designed for the dream world the "journalists" are living in, as opposed to the real world
[02:23]	activelow	the SUV bashing is shallow. the relevant metric isn't size and weight of a car, it is fuel-economy (liters/distance, liters/passenger, liters/freight)
[02:23]	activelow	same with the size of the car, since fuel economy depends on driving characteristics
[02:24]	MinceR	try telling that to the people who bashed MPVs with the power of a billion suns until recently, and now they're gushing about how practical MPVs are
[02:24]	activelow	MPV?
[02:25]	MinceR	i think they're called "minivans" in the usa
[02:25]	MinceR	multi-purpose vehicle
[02:27]	activelow	anyway, i could neither freely travel nor work anymore in this glorious EU
[02:31]	activelow	could have accepted the IBM offer from munich. this was the last one, gladly i didn't move to drown there.
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[02:39]	activelow	the application procedure was fun. IBM, somewhere in Romania, had administered some web site for "IQ testing". didn't want to do this for various reasons and passed nonetheless.
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[02:41]	activelow	which further raised suspicion, them being in trouble i think. otherwise i was not hired, typically with extortionate circumstances involved.
[02:47]	activelow	nowadays situation is this: to secure pension funds in germany an annual surplus of 400000 immigrants is required. this equates to a total influx of 3million annually since ~2.5million leave annually. this is official data, rarely cited, if at all.
[02:47]	activelow	the IBM munich endeavour was involved with BMW, they said. anyway, 4 years later BMW announced they had to throttle production due to microchip supply shortage.
[02:51]	activelow	anyway, and with the recent court case filed against me, it is IBM cited as reference. not that this had any relevance. doesn't impress me either.
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[02:59]	DaemonFC	https://windowsreport.com/bios-update-via-windows-update/
[02:59]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-windowsreport.com | Beware: Windows update is pushing BIOS updates with bugs
[02:59]	DaemonFC	"Bugs" = bricking the entire computer.
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[03:01]	activelow	https://www.ibm.com/blogs/internet-of-things/munich-hive-innovation/
[03:01]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ibm.com | Watson IoT Headquarters in Munich: A hive for innovation
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[03:10]	XRevan86	https://twitter.com/sophaskins/status/1423095551382462467 comments
[03:10]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@sophaskins: why is freenode losing users even faster over the past week? (from https://t.co/fbvxKY6pAM) https://t.co/4wEyll1TyO
[03:10]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> Kajetan Hinner, IRC Statistics Freenode
[03:10]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@sophaskins: why is freenode losing users even faster over the past week? (from https://t.co/fbvxKY6pAM) https://t.co/4wEyll1TyO
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[07:12]	psydruid	> and now that ibm's agents tried to cancel rms again, they just walked into the arms of their enemies again
[07:12]	psydruid	Armonk Syndrome
[07:15]	schestowitz-TR	link?
[07:15]	schestowitz-TR	I replugged my keyboard and it idiotically decided to change keyboard layout
[07:15]	schestowitz-TR	without asking me
[07:15]	schestowitz-TR	this is seriously messed up
[07:16]	psydruid	it's something MinceR said earlier this morning when I was asleep
[07:48]	schestowitz	turns out KDE decide to misclassify the keyboard when plugged back in
[07:49]	schestowitz	I had to detach it as the laptop has only 2 USB ports and I did a full backup
[07:49]	schestowitz	no idea why it didn't cope correctly with the device identification, maybe even a new Debian bug
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[08:34]	psydruid	I noticed some bugs creeping up in KDE in Debian Buster about a month ago, which made me decide to move to Bullseye before its actual release
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[08:56]	techrights-news	#Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154183 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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[08:56]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
[08:56]	techrights-news	#Server: Pantacor, Grafana, and VPS http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154182 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[08:56]	techrights-news	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154181 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[08:57]	techrights-news	#Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154180 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[08:57]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Server: Pantacor, Grafana, and VPS | Tux Machines
[08:57]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines
[08:57]	techrights-news	Ryan: "Bugs" = bricking the entire computer. https://windowsreport.com/bios-update-via-windows-update/
[08:58]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
[08:58]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-windowsreport.com | Beware: Windows update is pushing BIOS updates with bugs
[08:58]	techrights-news	#freenode doing self harm now https://nitter.eu/sophaskins/status/1423095551382462467
[08:58]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.eu | cron mom (@sophaskins): "why is freenode losing users even faster over the past week? (from http://www.hinner.com/ircstat/Socip_F.html)" | nitter
[08:58]	techrights-news	#freenode bugs https://nitter.eu/FangzhenS/status/1422521855521353728
[08:59]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.eu | Fangzhen Song (@FangzhenS): "Hi, Freenode. How can I figure what happened when doing register in http://irc.com: https://i.postimg.cc/ydHmCH9b/IRC-com.png @freenodestaff" | nitter
[08:59]	techrights-news	It's like #freenode does not want users anymore https://nitter.eu/_timoanttila/status/1422848520252493824
[08:59]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.eu | Timo Anttila (@_timoanttila): "Why is it so difficult to join a freenode channel? I need an http://irc.com account to authenticate to the server, but that account does not work. Not even their website and the reset link is broken. Google auth is broken. Why can't I just join the server? @freenodestaff" | nitter
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[09:00]	techrights-news	#Techrights Bulletin for Wednesday, August 04, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
[09:00]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives
[09:01]	techrights-news	#Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing
[09:01]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index
[09:01]	techrights-news	#Pantavisor Linux Brings Container Portability and Agility to Embedded Systems on IoT https://www.pantacor.com/blog/building-embedded-systems-with-pantavisor-linux-and-pantabox/
[09:01]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pantacor.com | Pantavisor Linux Brings Container Portability and Agility to Embedded Systems on IoT
[09:01]	techrights-news	#linuxhint is getting ridiculous this week; WINDOWS howtos and even generic instructions... that ASSUME YOU USE WINDOWS. In a site called LINUX HINT. WTH is wrong? https://linuxhint.com/analyze-laptop-battery-life/
[09:01]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxhint.com | How to analyze laptop battery life Linux Hint
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[09:08]	techrights-news	 NEWS #BertHubert #Programming Leap seconds: Causing Bugs Even When They Don't Happen https://berthub.eu/articles/posts/leapseconds-expose-bugs-even-when-they-dont-happen/
[09:08]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-berthub.eu | Leap seconds: Causing Bugs Even When They Don't Happen - Bert Hubert's writings
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[09:09]	techrights-news	 NEWS #NewStatesman #Science Why scientists are leaving #socialcontrolmedia https://www.newstatesman.com/science-tech/social-media/2021/08/why-scientists-are-leaving-social-media
[09:09]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.newstatesman.com | Why scientists are leaving social media
[09:12]	techrights-news	 NEWS #LinuxGizmos #Hardware #OKdo program will recycle your old Pi and give you 10 voucher http://linuxgizmos.com/okdo-program-will-recycle-your-old-pi-and-give-you-10-voucher/
[09:12]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 520 @ http://linuxgizmos.com/okdo-program-will-recycle-your-old-pi-and-give-you-10-voucher/ )
[09:15]	techrights-news	 NEWS #TheVerge #Surveillance #Privacy #AmericanAirlines will let you watch 30 minutes of #TikTok in the air for free https://www.theverge.com/2021/8/4/22610408/american-airlines-free-30-minute-tiktok-in-flight
[09:15]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | American Airlines will let you watch 30 minutes of TikTok in the air for free - The Verge
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[09:16]	techrights-news	 NEWS #CNET #Surveillance #Privacy #TikTok , your new in-flight entertainment option https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/tiktok-your-new-in-flight-entertainment-option/
[09:16]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-TikTok, your new in-flight entertainment option - CNET
[09:16]	techrights-news	 NEWS #BostonGlobe #Surveillance #Privacy It has to be known what was done to us: Natick couple harassed by #eBay tell their story for the first time https://www.bostonglobe.com/2021/07/31/business/it-has-be-known-what-was-done-us-natick-couple-harassed-by-ebay-tell-their-story-first-time/
[09:16]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bostonglobe.com | It has to be known what was done to us: Natick couple harassed by eBay tell their story for the first time - The Boston Globe
[09:17]	techrights-news	 NEWS #RiskyBiz #Surveillance #Privacy Srsly Risky Biz: Thursday, July 29 https://srslyriskybiz.substack.com/p/srsly-risky-biz-thursday-july-29
[09:17]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-srslyriskybiz.substack.com | Srsly Risky Biz: Thursday, July 29 - by Tom Uren - Seriously Risky Business
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[09:21]	techrights-news	 NEWS #Joinup #Politics Parlimentary mission supports #freesw https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/collection/open-source-observatory-osor/news/french-report-digital-sovereignty
[09:21]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joinup.ec.europa.eu | French report on digital sovereignty | Joinup
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[09:22]	techrights-news	 NEWS #DigitalMusicNews #Censorship #HongKong Pop Star Anthony Wong Arrested for Singing at a Rally https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2021/08/03/hong-kong-pop-star-anthony-wong-arrested/
[09:22]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 520 @ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2021/08/03/hong-kong-pop-star-anthony-wong-arrested/ )
[09:23]	techrights-news	 NEWS #DigitalMusicNews #Censorship #Spotify CEO Says #JoeRogan Wont Be Getting Censored Anymore: We Have a Lot of Really Well-Paid Rappers on Spotify, Too We Dont Dictate What Theyre Putting In Their Songs, Either https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2021/08/02/spotify-ceo-comments-is-joe-rogan-censored/
[09:23]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 520 @ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2021/08/02/spotify-ceo-comments-is-joe-rogan-censored/ )
[09:24]	techrights-news	 NEWS #WSWS #PressFreedom #CraigMurray joins Julian #Assange behind bars https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2021/08/04/pers-a04.html
[09:24]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.wsws.org | Craig Murray joins Julian Assange behind bars - World Socialist Web Site
[09:25]	techrights-news	 NEWS #CPJ #PressFreedom Russian authorities label #TheInsider a foreign agent, search editors home https://cpj.org/2021/08/russian-authorities-label-the-insider-a-foreign-agent-search-editors-home/
[09:25]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cpj.org | Russian authorities label The Insider a foreign agent, search editors home - Committee to Protect Journalists
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[09:26]	techrights-news	 NEWS #TheAtlantic #Spotify #DRM What Will Happen to My Music Library When Spotify Dies? https://www.theatlantic.com/culture/archive/2021/07/spotify-streaming-music-library/619453/
[09:26]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theatlantic.com | Spotify Has Changed Music Libraries Forever - The Atlantic
[09:27]	techrights-news	 NEWS #DigitalMusicNews #Copyrights #Copyright Why Isnt #Twitter Paying Musicians? Members of Congress Demand Answers https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2021/08/03/why-isnt-twitter-paying-musicians/
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[09:27]	techrights-news	 NEWS #BBC #Copyrights #Copyright Elaine Thompson-Herah: #Facebook #Instagram blocks gold medallist who shared race win https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/58094908
[09:28]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | Elaine Thompson-Herah: Instagram blocks gold medallist who shared race win - BBC Sport
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[09:29]	techrights-news	 NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights Lawyer Who 'Shut Down' #4Anime Has Giant Pirate Sites in His Crosshairs https://torrentfreak.com/lawyer-who-shut-down-4anime-has-giant-pirate-sites-in-his-crosshairs-210804/
[09:29]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Lawyer Who 'Shut Down' 4Anime Has Giant Pirate Sites in His Crosshairs * TorrentFreak
[09:29]	techrights-news	 NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights Legal Pressure Mounts on Stream-Ripping Site Yout.com https://torrentfreak.com/legal-pressure-mounts-on-stream-ripping-site-yout-com-210804/
[09:29]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Legal Pressure Mounts on Stream-Ripping Site Yout.com * TorrentFreak
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[09:38]	psydruid	https://www.sdxcentral.com/articles/news/amperes-ai-acquisition-puts-intel-nvidia-in-its-crosshairs/2021/08/
[09:38]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ampere's AI Acquisition Puts Intel, Nvidia in Its Crosshairs - SDxCentral
[09:39]	schestowitz-TR	HEY HI
[09:39]	schestowitz	http://techrights.org/2021/08/05/justifying-software-patents/
[09:39]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO Bribing Scholars to Justify Software Patents, Then Using Narrow Surveys to Justify Unlawful Guidelines for Examiners (e.g. Software Patents as Hey Hi) | Techrights
[09:39]	schestowitz	Intel to shateholders
[09:39]	schestowitz	we got some HEY HI, our competitors got MOAR HEY HI
[09:41]	psydruid	lol
[09:43]	schestowitz-TR	HI!!
[09:43]	schestowitz-TR	this whole buzzword BS needs more confronting
[09:43]	schestowitz-TR	I see the media falling for it
[09:43]	schestowitz-TR	and nobody says the emperor is naked
[09:43]	schestowitz-TR	so that's no good...
[09:44]	techrights-news	#EPO Bribing Scholars to Justify #SoftwarePatents , Then Using Narrow Surveys to Justify Unlawful Guidelines for Examiners (e.g. #swpats as Hey Hi) http://techrights.org/2021/08/05/justifying-software-patents/
[09:45]	techrights-news	 NEWS #RaspberryPi #RasPi #GNU #Linux Meet Laura Kampf: Wood and metalworker https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/meet-laura-kampf-wood-and-metalworker/
[09:45]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.raspberrypi.org | Meet Laura Kampf: Wood and metalworker - Raspberry Pi
[09:47]	psydruid	you know more about the technology than I do, but machine(/deep) learning should just be something you can do on any kind of hardware as needed
[09:47]	techrights-news	 #IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, August 04, 2021 http://techrights.org/2021/08/05/irc-log-040821/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/05/irc-log-040821/
[09:47]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, August 04, 2021 | Techrights
[09:48]	psydruid	perhaps aided by circuitry that can accelerate things, but there is no need to throw perfectly fine hardware out because now you need all new HEY HI hardware and software
[09:48]	schestowitz-TR	psydruid: yes
[09:48]	schestowitz-TR	they say HEY HI accelerators
[09:48]	schestowitz-TR	but it's overhyped BS
[09:48]	schestowitz-TR	like hardware RNGs
[09:48]	schestowitz-TR	you beat me to it, sort of..
[09:48]	schestowitz-TR	.I was responding to the earlier statement of yours
[09:49]	schestowitz-TR	some machines were marketed as fast for cracking passwords
[09:49]	schestowitz-TR	like QC
[09:49]	schestowitz-TR	because of simultaneous computation
[09:49]	schestowitz-TR	but for the same price/complexity you could throw money ordinary h/w into the mix
[09:49]	schestowitz-TR	the hardware companies just don't know how to distinguish themselves
[09:50]	schestowitz-TR	and they prey on clueless people who are purchase managers
[09:50]	schestowitz-TR	IoT smart cloud blockchain hey hi agile
[09:53]	techrights-news	 NEWS #TheGrayZone #CIA #Twitter partners with UK govt-backed, CIA-linked Reuters to censor alternative views https://thegrayzone.com/2021/08/04/twitter-uk-cia-reuters-censorship/
[09:53]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thegrayzone.com | Twitter partners with UK govt-backed, CIA-linked Reuters to censor alternative views | The Grayzone
[09:56]	techrights-news	#ebay has gone rogue. Like #google with #youtube they screw with people who actually do ALL the work just to increase sales/commissions/ads. Totally rogue. Totally disrespectful.
[09:57]	techrights-news	 NEWS #Techdirt Despite 20 Years Of Experience, #Comcast / #NBC Still Sucks At Olympics Coverage https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210803/07260247296/despite-20-years-experience-comcast-nbc-still-sucks-olympics-coverage.shtml
[09:57]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Despite 20 Years Of Experience, Comcast/NBC Still Sucks At Olympics Coverage | Techdirt
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[10:32]	techrights-news	[Meme] #Patents for #Bots (the Other Kind of Hey Hi Patents) http://techrights.org/2021/08/05/patents-for-bots/ #patent #law
[10:32]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Patents for Bots (the Other Kind of Hey Hi Patents) | Techrights
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[10:40]	techrights-news	 NEWS #CounterPunch The #CharterSchool Juggernaut https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/08/04/the-charter-school-juggernaut/ pushed by #famousCriminal for personal gain for over a decade: http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gates_Foundation_Critique
[10:40]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Charter School Juggernaut - CounterPunch.org
[10:40]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Gates Foundation Critique - Techrights
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[11:01]	techrights-news	The #Patent Quality Song http://techrights.org/2021/08/05/patent-quality-song/ #Patents #swpats #law #monopoly
[11:01]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Patent Quality Song | Techrights
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[11:07]	techrights-news	Client today: "We are are interested in self-hosting on AWS instance." Me: WTH? That's self-contradictory. #aws is #OUTSOURCING which is the opposite of #selfhosting LOL!
[11:08]	techrights-news	The #Patent Farce... http://techrights.org/2021/08/05/patent-quality-song/ #Patents #swpats #law #monopoly
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● Aug 05
[12:02]	techrights-news	Today in #Techrights http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154184 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[12:02]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines
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[12:22]	techrights-news	 NEWS #meduza #ru #russia #Belaru Tearing up my passport was the right decision: Belarusian oppositionist Maria Kolesnikova talks to Dozhd ahead of trial in Minsk https://meduza.io/en/feature/2021/08/04/tearing-up-my-passport-was-the-right-decision
[12:22]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE
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[12:41]	techrights-news	 NEWS #Techdirt #DMCA #UFC COO Publicly Pushing 'Notice And Stay Down' Reforms To DMCA, Despite That Being Horrible For Almost Everyone https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210729/10414747270/ufc-coo-publicly-pushing-notice-stay-down-reforms-to-dmca-despite-that-being-horrible-almost-everyone.shtml
[12:41]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-UFC COO Publicly Pushing 'Notice And Stay Down' Reforms To DMCA, Despite That Being Horrible For Almost Everyone | Techdirt
[12:44]	techrights-news	 NEWS #CommonDreams #Misinformation 'Truly Disturbing': #Facebook Blasted for Blocking #NYU Researchers Examining Ad Model and Misinformation https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/08/04/truly-disturbing-facebook-blasted-blocking-nyu-researchers-examining-ad-model-and
[12:44]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | 'Truly Disturbing': Facebook Blasted for Blocking NYU Researchers Examining Ad Model and Misinformation | Common Dreams News
[12:44]	techrights-news	 NEWS #Techdirt Man Sues Multiple #SocialControlMedia Services, Claims Banning His Accounts Violates The Civil Rights Act https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210801/14521647286/man-sues-multiple-social-media-services-claims-banning-his-accounts-violates-civil-rights-act.shtml
[12:44]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Man Sues Multiple Social Media Services, Claims Banning His Accounts Violates The Civil Rights Act | Techdirt
[12:46]	techrights-news	 NEWS #CommonDreams #greed #patent #monopolies WHO Calls for Moratorium on Covid Booster Shots as Billions Go Without Single Vaccine Dose https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/08/04/who-calls-moratorium-covid-booster-shots-billions-go-without-single-vaccine-dose
[12:46]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | WHO Calls for Moratorium on Covid Booster Shots as Billions Go Without Single Vaccine Dose | Common Dreams News
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[12:48]	techrights-news	 NEWS #Techdirt Yes, Actually, The 1st Amendment Does Mean That #Twitter Can Kick You Off Its Platform, #WallStreetJournal https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210802/17451247295/yes-actually-1st-amendment-does-mean-that-twitter-can-kick-you-off-platform-wall-street-journal.shtml
[12:48]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Yes, Actually, The 1st Amendment Does Mean That Twitter Can Kick You Off Its Platform, Wall Street Journal | Techdirt
[12:53]	techrights-news	#mozilla #firefox https://odysee.com/@BrodieRobertson:5/firefox-has-lost-another-50-million:d
[12:53]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-odysee.com | Firefox Has Lost Another 50 Million Users
● Aug 05
[13:01]	techrights-news	#netgear https://odysee.com/@RobBraxmanTech:6/netgear:0
[13:01]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-odysee.com | Using Phones with No-SIM Cards and Other Privacy Experiments
[13:02]	techrights-news	This is how #censorship starts. Claiming it's "healthy"... or to "save lives"... https://dissidentvoice.org/2021/08/sanitising-censorship-the-twitter-ap-reuters-news-partnership/
[13:02]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dissidentvoice.org | Sanitising Censorship: The Twitter-AP-Reuters News Partnership | Dissident Voice
[13:04]	techrights-news	#Microsoft Deletes All Comments Under Heavily Criticized #vista11 Upgrade Video https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=21/08/04/1015222
[13:04]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-soylentnews.org | Microsoft Deletes All Comments Under Heavily Criticized Windows 11 Upgrade Video - SoylentNews
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[13:23]	techrights-news	Total War: #WARHAMMER II - The Silence & The Fury out now for Linux | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/08/total-war-warhammer-ii-the-silence-a-the-fury-out-now-for-linux #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games
[13:23]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Total War: WARHAMMER II - The Silence & The Fury out now for Linux | GamingOnLinux
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[13:51]	techrights-news	Links 5/8/2021: More AAA Games for GNU/Linux, Firefox Loses 50M Users in Two Years http://techrights.org/2021/08/05/firefox-loses-50m-users-in-two-years/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/05/firefox-loses-50m-users-in-two-years/
[13:51]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 5/8/2021: More AAA Games for GNU/Linux, Firefox Loses 50M Users in Two Years | Techrights
[13:51]	techrights-news	#Games: Total War: WARHAMMER II - The Silence & The Fury, TMORPG, and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154185 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[13:51]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Total War: WARHAMMER II - The Silence & The Fury, TMORPG, and More | Tux Machines
[13:51]	techrights-news	Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154186 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[13:51]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines
● Aug 05
[14:05]	techrights-news	Mozillas managers are a big part of todays problem/s; they arent resigning, instead they lay off loads of technical staff that has worked on Firefox (while rewarding themselves with further pay increases) and Firefox users arent treated with respect; the way things are going, this is just commercial suicide
[14:05]	techrights-news	#Firefox Cannot be Trusted at the Hands of Todays Mozilla Management http://techrights.org/2021/08/05/lousy-mozilla-management/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/05/lousy-mozilla-management/
[14:05]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Firefox Cannot be Trusted at the Hands of Todays Mozilla Management | Techrights
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[14:11]	DaemonFC	There's a nude bike ride in Chicago coming up.
[14:12]	DaemonFC	The news said that full frontal nudity in public is illegal in Illinois. It actually isn't, except when it's sexual in nature.
[14:12]	schestowitz-TR	it's usually unappealing
[14:12]	schestowitz-TR	attractive people do not participate
[14:12]	DaemonFC	Yeah, just one more way to turn it into ShitCongo I guess.
[14:16]	schestowitz-TR	that's a racist dogwhistle
[14:16]	schestowitz-TR	and based on what I saw in York, it's usually white locals
[14:16]	schestowitz-TR	without any "minorities" participating
[14:18]	DaemonFC	Yeah, almost as bad..... White liberals.
[14:18]	DaemonFC	mjg59_ swinging his cock around in a depraved left-wing city that won't do anything about it because the cops are busy with the riots and looting.
[14:19]	DaemonFC	Open source conferences as "hunting grounds" for unwelcome sexual advances.
[14:20]	DaemonFC	The same sort of behavior where the mere allegation will destroy a straight white man.
[14:21]	DaemonFC	States don't actually seem to mind recidivism or actually causing worse crimes than they accuse people of.
[14:21]	techrights-news	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154188 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[14:21]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines
[14:21]	DaemonFC	Eventually, the accusation destroys the man to where he wishes he was dead, but they won't give him death. They just take away everything that he loved.
[14:22]	schestowitz-TR	anyway, this is off topic...
[14:23]	schestowitz-TR	you start with something
[14:23]	DaemonFC	Not really. Wasn't it ESR who said don't be in a room with a woman, alone.
[14:23]	schestowitz-TR	and then interject some unrelated provocation of political flavour
[14:23]	DaemonFC	Then these corporate puppets like Garrett openly brag about things that are worse.
[14:23]	schestowitz-TR	Garrett is irrelevant
[14:23]	schestowitz-TR	he doesn't do Linux and he works for a purely proprietary software company
[14:23]	schestowitz-TR	he left
[14:23]	schestowitz-TR	we got rid of him
[14:24]	DaemonFC	He laid the foundation for Microsoft to impose strict Secure Boot requirements and then say that Linux still works.
[14:24]	schestowitz-TR	yes
[14:24]	DaemonFC	Windows 11 was getting overwhelmingly bad reviews and comments on Youtube, so Microsoft deleted the comments and then turned comments off.
[14:24]	DaemonFC	schestowitz-TR, Alternative Facts. Windows 11 is great even though they say so themselves!
[14:25]	schestowitz-TR	I mentioned this again earlier
[14:25]	schestowitz-TR	it becomes Streisand Effect
[14:26]	DaemonFC	They silence real people on Youtube. They silence people on their forums. They silence people on their Facebook stuff. They pay the "media" to recite press releases that they wrote themselves.
[14:26]	techrights-news	Down under, in #SouthAfrica and #Australia , #patent offices or courts have given up on the idea that #patents are granted to inventors and in order to encourage progress; its a crisis of legitimacy for the very premise of the system http://techrights.org/2021/08/05/patents-for-bots/
[14:26]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Patents for Bots (the Other Kind of Hey Hi Patents) | Techrights
[14:26]	DaemonFC	That proves that they're not interested in criticism and responding to it by fixing the damned bugs.
[14:27]	techrights-news	Ample room for introspection now that #patents are being assigned to bots http://techrights.org/2021/08/05/patent-quality-song/ #Techrights #patent | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/05/patent-quality-song/
[14:27]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Patent Quality Song | Techrights
[14:28]	DaemonFC	The big PR disaster is people with powerful computers that are only a few years old watching Microsoft declare it obsolete, but allowing it to run on some $30 piece of shit because it's newer.
[14:28]	techrights-news	The #EPO s news section is still in propaganda mode and that #propaganda is being propagated even to universities (in service of unlawful agenda) http://techrights.org/2021/08/05/justifying-software-patents/ #Techrights #swpats | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/05/justifying-software-patents/
[14:28]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO Bribing Scholars to Justify Software Patents, Then Using Narrow Surveys to Justify Unlawful Guidelines for Examiners (e.g. Software Patents as Hey Hi) | Techrights
[14:29]	DaemonFC	This is another Vista. It's riddled with bugs and even though these computers are more than powerful enough to run the beta, they flip some arbitrary switch in a few months and tell you to go out and replace your computer.
[14:30]	techrights-news	Total War: WARHAMMER II The Silence & The Fury DLC Is Out Now for Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154187 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[14:30]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Total War: WARHAMMER II The Silence & The Fury DLC Is Out Now for Linux | Tux Machines
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[14:32]	techrights-news	#Mozilla s managers are a big part of todays problem/s; they arent resigning, instead they lay off loads of technical staff that has worked on #Firefox (while rewarding themselves with further pay increases) and #Firefox users arent treated with respect; the way things are going, this is just commercial suicide http://techrights.org/2021/08/05/lousy-mozilla-management/
[14:32]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Firefox Cannot be Trusted at the Hands of Todays Mozilla Management | Techrights
[14:35]	techrights-news	#deletegithub #ProprietarySoftware #perl http://blogs.perl.org/users/ron_savage/2021/08/railroad-diagrams-for-sql-2003-and-sql-2016.html
[14:35]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Railroad diagrams for SQL 2003 and SQL 2016 | Ron Savage [blogs.perl.org]
[14:41]	techrights-news	C/C++ #Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154189
[14:41]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | C/C++ Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
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[14:50]	DaemonFC	https://wgntv.com/news/coronavirus/us-jobless-claims-down-14000-to-385000-as-economy-rebounds/
[14:50]	DaemonFC	schestowitz-TR, Dead cat bounce.
[14:50]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wgntv.com | US jobless claims down 14,000 to 385,000 as economy rebounds | WGN-TV
[14:59]	schestowitz-TR	lol "rebounds"
[14:59]	schestowitz-TR	because more people give up
[14:59]	schestowitz-TR	corporate media, the voice of corporations
[14:59]	schestowitz-TR	if you are not working, you must be a "lazy bums"
[14:59]	schestowitz-TR	the "market is hot"
● Aug 05
[15:00]	techrights-news	Steam Deck Popularity Leads to Spike in Linux Use http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154051#comment-30472
[15:00]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Steam Survey Shows Linux Marketshare Hitting 1.0% | Tux Machines
[15:01]	techrights-news	#[Updated] 2021 hardcore list of linux distributions without elogind and other systemd parts http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154190 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[15:01]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | [Updated] 2021 hardcore list of linux distributions without elogind and other systemd parts | Tux Machines
[15:02]	techrights-news	11 of the best diagramming tools for Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154191 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[15:02]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 11 of the best diagramming tools for Linux | Tux Machines
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[15:06]	techrights-news	#ibm #redhat : "As the pandemic starts to subside in some parts of the world"... huh? Are we living on the same planet, IBM??? https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2021/7/hybrid-work-advantages
[15:06]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | Hybrid work model: 5 advantages | The Enterprisers Project
[15:08]	techrights-news	"The Design team have been working to revamp start.fedoraproject.org which is the default homepage in a fresh Fedora Linux installation." https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/would-you-use-this-as-your-homepage/
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[15:11]	techrights-news	#microsoft #censorship #oppression #perceptionManagement https://www.notebookcheck.net/Damage-control-Microsoft-deletes-all-comments-under-heavily-criticized-Windows-11-upgrade-video.553279.0.html #billgates does the same now (to belittle his Epstein enablement) http://techrights.org/2021/07/05/bill-gates-pays-twitter/
[15:11]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Damage control: Microsoft deletes all comments under heavily criticized Windows 11 upgrade video - NotebookCheck.net News
[15:11]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Reality is Warped When You Pay for Perception Management (or: Bill Gates Pays Twitter for Propaganda) | Techrights
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[15:12]	techrights-news	#billgates is, today, where 'Prince' Andrew was 2 years ago. Can't wait till next year. His wife and best friends/allies already distanced themselves from him...
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[15:15]	techrights-news	IBM /Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154192
[15:15]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers | Tux Machines
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[15:22]	techrights-news	#JUVE is spamming or link-farming for #Austrian #patent #litigation giants, but it is disguised as news https://www.juve-patent.com/news-and-stories/people-and-business/austria-continues-to-play-steady-role-in-european-patent-litigation/ http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Juve
[15:22]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.juve-patent.com | Austria continues to play steady role in European patent litigation - JUVE Patent
[15:22]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Juve - Techrights
[15:23]	techrights-news	"The 770 #patent is generally related to broadcasting data in a telecommunications system and is being asserted against TP-Link Technology Co." = #swpats = #fakepatents h #ptab will decide... https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/8/4/wsou-770-patent-challenged
[15:23]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unifiedpatents.com | WSOU '770 patent challenged Unified Patents
[15:25]	techrights-news	Corrupt #epo illegally grants #swpats but those #fakepatents are being challenged https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/8/4/epo-challenge-filed-against-another-etri-patent see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Software_Patents_in_Europe
[15:25]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unifiedpatents.com | EPO challenge filed against another ETRI patent Unified Patents
[15:25]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Software Patents in Europe - Techrights
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[15:38]	techrights-news	#billgates -bribed #billBC now helps Bill's #reputationLaundering after ties to underage sex trafficker. You're not improved since covering up for Savile, #bbc ...
[15:39]	techrights-news	#twitter has financial incentive to hide/obscure tweets critical of #billgates and #gatesfoundation http://techrights.org/2021/07/05/bill-gates-pays-twitter/ #socialcontrolmedia
[15:58]	techrights-news	#Coreboot 6 Open-Source Firmware Is Now Available for Star Labs Linux Laptops http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154193 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[15:58]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Coreboot 6 Open-Source Firmware Is Now Available for Star Labs Linux Laptops | Tux Machines
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[16:25]	techrights-news	Then They Censor You and Then You Win (Not Windows) http://techrights.org/2021/08/05/microsoft-censors-you/ #vista10 #microsoft #windows #hype #bribery
[16:25]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Then They Censor You and Then You Win (Not Windows) | Techrights
[16:26]	activelow	https://www.dw.com/en/germanys-public-broadcasters-win-funding-battle-against-saxony-anhalt/a-58765360
[16:26]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Germanys public broadcasters win funding battle against Saxony-Anhalt | News | DW | 05.08.2021
[16:26]	activelow	"funding of public broadcasting could not be jeopardized, especially in times of increasingly complex information on the one hand, and of one-sided representations, filter bubbles, fake news and deep fakes on the other hand."
[16:26]	schestowitz-TR	ah
[16:27]	activelow	fake news about fake news: it is public broadcasters themselves who spread fake news, lies, propaganda, incitement
[16:28]	activelow	$20 is very expensive
[16:29]	activelow	monthly, and public broadcasters do not encrypt their crap, although they could, and then anyone willing to pay for this can do so
[16:29]	activelow	instead they insist public tv must not be encrypted, since their lies and propaganda supposedly served public interest
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[16:39]	activelow	german public broadcasting is bound by a charta: it MUST serve public interest with their service, to educate and provide quality journalism
[16:39]	activelow	public broadcasting does violate this charta, henceforth any mandatory funding is illegal
[16:41]	activelow	nonetheless highest german court ruled denying an *increase* of funding already violated freedom of press and broadcasting - what a crazy nonsense
[16:41]	activelow	annual funding of public broadcasting in germany is more expensive than 20 years of afghanistan intervention to rebuild an entire country!!!
[16:43]	AdmFubar	https://www.propublica.org/article/heartware-patients-implanted-fda#1099966
[16:43]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.propublica.org | Thousands of Patients Were Implanted With Heart Pumps That the FDA Knew Could Be Dangerous ProPublica
[16:50]	techrights-news	#Microsoft s expensive vapourware #marketing campaign (whitewash or powercycle of Vista 10) isnt going according to plan http://techrights.org/2021/08/05/microsoft-censors-you/
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[18:40]	schestowitz-TR	just bought some new fish for the bowl
[18:40]	schestowitz-TR	still unnamed
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[18:43]	techrights-news	#AMD and #Valve Are Working to Improve the ACPI CPUFreq Driver for Better Gaming Performance on Linux https://wccftech.com/amd-and-valve-are-working-to-improve-the-acpi-cpufreq-driver-for-better-gaming-performance-on-linux/ #wccftech
[18:43]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wccftech.com | AMD and Valve Are Working to Improve the ACPI CPUFreq Driver for Better Gaming Performance on Linux
[18:44]	techrights-news	Relax and rebuild a campsite in the chilled-out Haven Park out now | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/08/relax-and-rebuild-a-campsite-in-the-chilled-out-haven-park-out-now #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/08/05/#latest
[18:44]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Relax and rebuild a campsite in the chilled-out Haven Park out now | GamingOnLinux
[18:44]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts
[18:46]	techrights-news	Feral Interactive confirms Total War: WARHAMMER III for Linux is in progress http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154185#comment-30473
[18:46]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Total War: WARHAMMER II - The Silence & The Fury, TMORPG, and More | Tux Machines
[18:50]	techrights-news	Cosmic horror, fleshy monsters and the post-apocalypse meet in Death Trash out now | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/08/cosmic-horror-fleshy-monsters-and-the-post-apocalypse-meet-in-death-trash-out-now #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/08/05/#latest
[18:50]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cosmic horror, fleshy monsters and the post-apocalypse meet in Death Trash out now | GamingOnLinux
[18:52]	techrights-news	Open source Linux GPU drivers Mesa 21.2 released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154173#comment-30474
[18:52]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mesa 21.2 Released with New Features, Improved Support for Many Games | Tux Machines
● Aug 05
[19:02]	techrights-news	"In this video, I am going to show how to install #KDENEON 20210729" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGUxzpcoSVQ #kde #gnu #linux
[19:02]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to install KDE NEON 20210729 - YouTube
[19:11]	techrights-news	"This week weve been migrating to Vault Warden and erasing data. We discuss the web browsers we use and bring you a command line love." https://ubuntupodcast.org/2021/08/05/s14e22-common-terms-season/
[19:11]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ubuntupodcast.org | S14E22 Common Terms Season | Ubuntu Podcast
[19:12]	techrights-news	#BSDNow : " #OpenZFS 2.1 is out, #FreeBSD TCP Performance System Controls, IPFS #OpenBSD , tips for running an online conference, fanless OpenBSD laptop, and more." https://www.bsdnow.tv/414
[19:12]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bsdnow.tv | BSD Now 414: Running online conferences
[19:14]	techrights-news	#gnu #linux devs on #android #tablet https://bkhome.org/news/202108/7-inch-tablet-with-4g-lte.html
[19:14]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bkhome.org | 7 inch tablet with 4G LTE
[19:14]	techrights-news	#Games: Valve, Haven Park, Starmancer, and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154194 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[19:14]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Valve, Haven Park, Starmancer, and More | Tux Machines
[19:15]	DaemonFC	It's probably way past time to replace the serpentine belt on that car.
[19:15]	schestowitz-TR	yours?
[19:15]	DaemonFC	I think the only reason mom never had it snap (or me) is because I pointed out that it was at 100,000 miles or something back in 2007 and had a shop she was at replace it.
[19:15]	DaemonFC	Yeah.
[19:16]	DaemonFC	It just hit 278,000 miles today.
[19:17]	techrights-news	#mozilla recognises that the way #firefox is going isn't anything but untenable. But I wonder if their diagnosis and proposed solution will work. Start by blocking ads and stop the "telemetry" https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/news/an-update-from-firefox/
[19:17]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | An update from Firefox
[19:17]	DaemonFC	A bunch of wear items, most of which were well past their service life, have needed replaced, but it's cheaper to just plan for it and replace that stuff, than to buy a newer car.
[19:17]	DaemonFC	schestowitz-TR, I had Carvana email me this morning to inform me that they dropped the price of a 2010 Honda I was looking at.
[19:18]	DaemonFC	They went from $15,000 to $14,500.
[19:18]	DaemonFC	Still ridiculous.
[19:18]	techrights-news	"In the last six months the #Firefox performance team has implemented changes to improve startup, responsiveness, security (Fission), and web standards." https://blog.mozilla.org/performance/2021/08/05/performance-in-progress/ #mozilla
[19:18]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | Performance in progress Mozilla Performance
[19:18]	schestowitz-TR	DaemonFC: just sales price
[19:18]	DaemonFC	It must have been sitting there so the computer just automagically drops the price until someone buys it.
[19:18]	schestowitz-TR	insurance, maintenance, fuel etc.
[19:18]	DaemonFC	Probably no humans involved.
[19:18]	DaemonFC	Not just something the cops say anymore!
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[19:19]	techrights-news	"For many online readers you simply cant beat the convenience and clarity of reading e-books in #EPUB form" https://addons.mozilla.org/blog/read-epub-e-books-right-in-your-browser/ #mozilla #firefox
[19:19]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-addons.mozilla.org | Read EPUB e-books right in your browser - Firefox Add-on Reviews
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[19:19]	schestowitz-TR	wb
[19:20]	DaemonFC	Yes, taxes, full coverage, all that nice stuff.
[19:20]	DaemonFC	Hit the wrong button and accidentally closed HexChat.
[19:20]	DaemonFC	Full coverage car insurance with a bankruptcy. Owww.
[19:20]	DaemonFC	10.4% APR..... Owww.
[19:20]	DaemonFC	Easier to just keep patching this old car to run for some more years.
[19:21]	techrights-news	Jeff Klukas: Deduplication: Where #Apache Beam Fits In https://jeff.klukas.net/writing/2021-08-04-deduplication-where-apache-beam-fits-in/ #mozilla #firfeox
[19:21]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jeff.klukas.net | Deduplication: Where Apache Beam Fits In - Jeff Klukas
[19:21]	DaemonFC	Nobody is going to give me a deal that's even approaching fair, schestowitz-TR 
[19:21]	DaemonFC	So until that changes...
[19:22]	DaemonFC	I need the bankruptcy to continue aging while my credit keeps ticking up and then to defeat this ticket or turn it into a supervision that the insurance people can't see.
[19:22]	DaemonFC	And then.....still probably not worth it, but surely not now.
[19:23]	DaemonFC	Bankruptcy....the doomsday weapon for debt.
[19:24]	DaemonFC	If you just do what you should have done to begin with afterwards, like buying clunker cars in cash and putting close to minimum insurance on them, you'll be alright.
[19:24]	DaemonFC	The "You should be embarrassed to drive that." thing is marketing.
[19:25]	DaemonFC	Usually you even have family members who got caught in this.
[19:26]	DaemonFC	They spent $30,000-$40,000 on a car with interest and full insurance and taxes, watched it age, and gather miles, and dents, dings, scratches, and rust spots.
[19:26]	DaemonFC	Then they go to sell it and say "Well, I'd be insulted to take that. I'll just give it to the kids.".
[19:26]	DaemonFC	bbiab
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[19:28]	techrights-news	#facebook -> #mozilla http://techrights.org/2019/11/03/the-privacy-scam/
[19:28]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Facebook and Other Surveillance Capitalists Wont Save Mozilla From Google Dependence | Techrights
[19:35]	techrights-news	#LinuxMint 20.2 "Uma" Has Been Released [WEEKS AGO]: See Whats New http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154197 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[19:35]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Mint 20.2 "Uma" Has Been Released: See Whats New | Tux Machines
[19:35]	techrights-news	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154196 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[19:35]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines
[19:35]	techrights-news	#Mozilla #Firefox: Apache Beam, Extensions, Performance, and an Updater http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154195 #TuxMachines
[19:35]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla Firefox: Apache Beam, Extensions, Performance, and an Updater | Tux Machines
[19:37]	techrights-news	#hackaday now promotes an ATTACK on #gnu #linux under the heading "Linux Fu". #wsl or #wsl2 are ATTACKS on GNU/Linux and thankfully almost nobody uses that crap. http://techrights.org/2021/06/01/the-death-of-wsl-and-wsl2/
[19:37]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Death of WSL and WSL2 | Techrights
[19:38]	techrights-news	Ubuntu 21.10 Finally Removed Standard Theme-box, Only Light & Dark Mode Now http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154198 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[19:39]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 21.10 Finally Removed Standard Theme-box, Only Light & Dark Mode Now | Tux Machines
[19:41]	techrights-news	#Alpine 3.14.1 released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154199 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[19:41]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Alpine 3.14.1 released | Tux Machines
[19:45]	techrights-news	Linux-driven encoder board supports 4K H.265/HEVC http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154200
[19:45]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux-driven encoder board supports 4K H.265/HEVC | Tux Machines
[19:49]	techrights-news	NSA, CISA release Kubernetes hardening guidance following Colonial Pipeline, other attacks | CSO Online https://www.csoonline.com/article/3628191/nsa-cisa-release-kubernetes-hardening-guidance-following-fancy-bear-attacks.html#tk.rss_news #csoonline | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/08/05/#latest
[19:49]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.csoonline.com | NSA, CISA release Kubernetes hardening guidance following Colonial Pipeline, other attacks | CSO Online
[19:49]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts
[19:52]	techrights-news	The #JingPad A1 - Hands-on Preview! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbD8KBFLxjY #gnu #linux
[19:52]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The JingPad A1 - Hands-on Preview! - YouTube
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[19:54]	activelow	not convinced about kubernetes/docker/containers para-virtualization, same with hardware hypervisors and virtual machines
[19:55]	activelow	nowadays, a quadcore arm64 system with 2GiB of RAM idles at 2Watts, and can serve 1GBE, no need for complex KVM and paravirtualization anymore
[19:55]	techrights-news	Total War: WARHAMMER II The Silence & The Fury out now for Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154185#comment-30476
[19:55]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Total War: WARHAMMER II - The Silence & The Fury, TMORPG, and More | Tux Machines
[19:56]	techrights-news	#Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154201 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[19:56]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
[19:58]	AdmFubar	https://www.darkreading.com/application-security/researchers-find-significant-vulnerabilities-in-macos-privacy-protections/d/d-id/1341590
[19:58]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.darkreading.com | Researchers Find Significant Vulnerabilities in ...
● Aug 05
[20:04]	schestowitz-TR	thanks
[20:04]	schestowitz-TR	just in time
[20:05]	techrights-news	Audiocasts/Shows: JingPad, BSDNow, and Ubuntu Podcast http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154202 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[20:05]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Audiocasts/Shows: JingPad, BSDNow, and Ubuntu Podcast | Tux Machines
[20:06]	schestowitz-TR	activelow: true, like the sbcs
[20:06]	schestowitz-TR	but some think they need $10,000 server racks
[20:07]	schestowitz-TR	with expensive support and maintenance
[20:08]	schestowitz-TR	hmm... I think we've hit some front page or something
[20:08]	schestowitz-TR	2000hits/30secs
[20:08]	schestowitz-TR	10mb/sec
[20:08]	schestowitz-TR	the mozilla firefox article
[20:09]	techrights-news	#Security: Updates and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154203 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[20:09]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: Updates and More | Tux Machines
[20:09]	schestowitz-TR	AdmFubar: ^^
[20:09]	schestowitz-TR	included here now
[20:12]	schestowitz-TR	now 15mb/sec
[20:12]	schestowitz-TR	I don't know where all this traffic comes from
[20:13]	techrights-news	#apple is expensive and very disappointing: "After switching from my Intel-based MacBook Pro from 2019 with I9 to the MacBook Pro M1, the fun didnt last very long. Since then, I spend a lot of time maintaining and analyzing Mac problems and dont get to work." https://hagenverfolgt.medium.com/strong-issues-with-macos-bigsur-on-macbook-pro-m1-313b14616e75
[20:13]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hagenverfolgt.medium.com | Strong Issues with MacOS BigSur on MacBook Pro M1 | by Hagen Hbel | Aug, 2021 | Medium
[20:14]	schestowitz-TR	27mb/sec
[20:14]	schestowitz-TR	wth?
[20:15]	techrights-news	22 Best Free Internet Radio Software http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154204 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[20:15]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 22 Best Free Internet Radio Software | Tux Machines
[20:15]	AdmFubar	here is a bit of fun... check the vcf midwest events link.. it is very old school "under construction" look
[20:15]	AdmFubar	https://vcfed.org/wp/
[20:15]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-vcfed.org | Vintage Computer Federation VCF A user group for computer history hobbyists
[20:15]	schestowitz-TR	36/mb/sec
[20:16]	schestowitz-TR	40
[20:16]	schestowitz-TR	there must be some very big site linking to it
[20:17]	schestowitz-TR	40 hits/sec
[20:17]	schestowitz-TR	50mb/secv
[20:17]	schestowitz-TR	closing all my sessions to the site to reduce load
[20:22]	techrights-news	The threat of #softwarepatents persists http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154205 #techrights has fought tirelessly on this front for 15 years! #swpats
[20:22]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The threat of software patents persists | Tux Machines
[20:24]	AdmFubar	https://hackaday.com/2021/08/04/semiconductor-shortage-never-mind-that-theres-a-vacuum-shortage/
[20:24]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Semiconductor Shortage? Never Mind That, Theres A Vacuum Shortage! | Hackaday
[20:24]	schestowitz-TR	good
[20:24]	schestowitz-TR	less consumption
[20:24]	schestowitz-TR	less purchasing, I hope
[20:24]	schestowitz-TR	price hikes, too, but those are not essentials like foods
[20:25]	schestowitz-TR	maybe people will learn to reuse and recycle more
[20:25]	schestowitz-TR	out of necessity
[20:25]	AdmFubar	there is a vacuum tube shortage..
[20:25]	schestowitz-TR	techrights is doing more than 50 hits/sec at the moment
[20:25]	schestowitz-TR	been months since I last saw that...
[20:26]	schestowitz-TR	wish I knew why, but we don't spy
[20:26]	schestowitz-TR	AdmFubar: doesn't sound like essentials
[20:26]	schestowitz-TR	assuming it's mostly for cleaning
[20:26]	schestowitz-TR	water shortages are FAR worse
[20:26]	schestowitz-TR	we need water to live, we're made of water
[20:27]	schestowitz-TR	oh, I see now
[20:27]	schestowitz-TR	it's hacker news
[20:28]	schestowitz-TR	https://nitter.actionsack.com/hn_frontpage/status/1423361110581948419#m
[20:28]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.actionsack.com | HN Front Page (@hn_frontpage): "Firefox Cannot Be Trusted at the Hands of Todays Mozilla Management L: http://techrights.org/2021/08/05/lousy-mozilla-management/ C: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28077963" | nitter
[20:28]	schestowitz-TR	https://nitter.actionsack.com/winsontang/status/1423362184084541440#m
[20:28]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.actionsack.com | Winson Tang (@winsontang): "Firefox Cannot Be Trusted at the Hands of Todays Mozilla Management http://techrights.org/2021/08/05/lousy-mozilla-management/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter" | nitter
[20:28]	schestowitz-TR	https://nitter.actionsack.com/HNTweets/status/1423363186342965258#m
[20:28]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.actionsack.com | Hacker News (@HNTweets): "Firefox Cannot Be Trusted at the Hands of Todays Mozilla Management: http://techrights.org/2021/08/05/lousy-mozilla-management/ Comments: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28077963" | nitter
[20:28]	schestowitz-TR	https://nitter.actionsack.com/betterhn20/status/1423363984359624707#m
[20:28]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.actionsack.com | Hacker News 20 (@betterhn20): "Firefox Cannot Be Trusted at the Hands of Todays Mozilla Management http://techrights.org/2021/08/05/lousy-mozilla-management/ (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28077963)" | nitter
[20:28]	AdmFubar	read carefully mister!
[20:29]	AdmFubar	https://hackaday.com/2021/08/03/gladys-west-modelled-the-earth-so-that-we-can-have-gps/
[20:29]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Gladys West Modelled The Earth So That We Can Have GPS | Hackaday
[20:29]	schestowitz-TR	we need to end gps monopoly
[20:30]	schestowitz-TR	I forgot what russia calls its own
[20:30]	schestowitz-TR	gpl monopoly begets imperialism
[20:30]	schestowitz-TR	they can even send rival armies in the wrong direction
[20:30]	schestowitz-TR	*gps
[20:30]	schestowitz-TR	not gp
[20:30]	schestowitz-TR	gpl
[20:30]	schestowitz-TR	gpl 'monopoly' would be good
[20:30]	schestowitz-TR	as everyone would have to share all the code
[20:31]	AdmFubar	https://hackaday.com/2021/08/04/inputs-of-interest-safetype-vertical-keyboard-with-mirrors-puts-pain-in-the-rear-view/
[20:31]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Inputs Of Interest: SafeType Vertical Keyboard With Mirrors Puts Pain In The Rear-View | Hackaday
[20:31]	AdmFubar	more keyboard fun for you!
[20:32]	schestowitz-TR	I need to see this
[20:32]		*schestowitz-TR clicking
[20:32]	schestowitz-TR	da faq
[20:32]	schestowitz-TR	with a plant
[20:32]	schestowitz-TR	and a table that's like a baby's chair at a table
[20:33]	schestowitz-TR	you must have some rather sever motoric issue to WANT such a design
[20:33]	schestowitz-TR	https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/southpark/images/8/89/TheEntity051.png/revision/latest?cb=20210511223805
[20:34]	activelow	the paravirtualization and KVM stuff is only another example when technology is driven by shareholder interests, such as docker inc.
[20:36]	techrights-news	"service mesh architectures are increasingly being harnessed by enterprises to make managing container clusters easier," @brideOfLinux explains https://www.itprotoday.com/containers/why-service-mesh-architectures-are-kubernetes-new-traffic-cop
[20:36]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itprotoday.com | Why Service Mesh Architectures Are Kubernetes' New Traffic Cop | IT Pro
[20:37]	techrights-news	#GCC 12's Static Analyzer Gaining Initial Assembly Support https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=GCC-12-Analyzer-ASM
[20:37]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GCC 12's Static Analyzer Gaining Initial Assembly Support - Phoronix
[20:37]	activelow	microsoft and amazon partnered with docker inc., this is the explanation for the hype it seems, otherwise technical benefits were marginal
[20:37]	activelow	https://news.microsoft.com/2014/10/15/DockerPR/#sm.0019tn7o9uymer710by1mphkq7nes
[20:37]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.microsoft.com | Docker and Microsoft partner to bring container applications across platforms Stories
[20:38]	schestowitz	http://techrights.org/2020/05/29/not-so-new-microsoft/
[20:38]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | What Happened to Docker is a Cautionary Tale About the Not-So-New Microsoft | Techrights
[20:38]	activelow	removed namespaces support from my kernel build before, never used it, for technical reasons
[20:38]	activelow	KVM and hardware hypervisors are a bad design choice too
[20:39]	schestowitz-TR	it says it simplifies things
[20:39]	schestowitz-TR	I see just more complexity
[20:39]	schestowitz-TR	with loads of duplicate files
[20:39]	schestowitz-TR	which can make patches harder and more flaky sometimes
[20:40]	AdmFubar	https://internetfreedom.in/womens-safety-on-the-internet-intersectionality/
[20:40]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-internetfreedom.in | Womens safety on the internet has to account for intersectionality
[20:40]	techrights-news	"Were pleased to announce the release of #Kubernetes 1.22, the second release of 2021!" https://kubernetes.io/blog/2021/08/04/kubernetes-1-22-release-announcement/
[20:40]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kubernetes.io | Kubernetes 1.22: Reaching New Peaks | Kubernetes
[20:46]	techrights-news	July GNU Spotlight with Mike Gerwitz: Fifteen new GNU releases! https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/july-gnu-spotlight-with-mike-gerwitz-fifteen-new-gnu-releases #gnu #freesw
[20:46]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsf.org | July GNU Spotlight with Mike Gerwitz: Fifteen new GNU releases! Free Software Foundation Working together for free software
[20:49]	techrights-news	Best Arch Linux Based Distributions in 2021 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154206 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[20:49]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Best Arch Linux Based Distributions in 2021 | Tux Machines
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[20:49]	techrights-news	#Cutelee 6 released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154207 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[20:49]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Cutelee 6 released | Tux Machines
[20:49]	techrights-news	#mailutils Version 3.13 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154208 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[20:49]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | mailutils Version 3.13 | Tux Machines
[20:55]	techrights-news	Seems like ad. "This review unit was kindly sent over for testing by Tyan." No connection to #linux either... https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=tyan-transport-gc68B8036&num=1
[20:55]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Tyan Transport CX GC68B8036-LE AMD EPYC 7003 1U Platform Review - Phoronix
[20:55]	AdmFubar	https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210802/07490447288/home-depot-tech-will-brick-power-tools-if-theyre-stolen-what-could-possibly-go-wrong.shtml
[20:55]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Home Depot Tech Will Brick Power Tools If They're Stolen. What Could Possibly Go Wrong? | Techdirt
[20:56]	techrights-news	Best Commenting Systems for Websites That You Can Self-Host http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154209 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[20:56]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Best Commenting Systems for Websites That You Can Self-Host | Tux Machines
[20:56]	techrights-news	#Dutch authority enforces Router Freedom http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154210 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[20:56]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Dutch authority enforces Router Freedom | Tux Machines
[20:57]	AdmFubar	https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210805/10212647310/olympics-copyright-insanity-rules-again-gold-medal-winner-blocked-sharing-her-own-victory.shtml
[20:57]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Olympics Copyright Insanity Rules Again: Gold Medal Winner Blocked From Sharing Her Own Victory | Techdirt
[20:57]	techrights-news	"Environmentally friendly." Nonsense #greenwashing ... show me a datacentre that's actually a jungle. https://hund.tty1.se/2021/08/05/i-have-now-replaced-mailbox-with-gandi.html
[20:57]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hund.tty1.se | I have now replaced Mailbox with Gandi | Hund
● Aug 05
[21:00]	activelow	currently working on webkit-gtk/epiphany, to drop mozilla (seamonkey/firefox) entirely
[21:01]	activelow	i am not willing to include another bloated toolchain (llvm/clang), to support rust, and i will not include rust support with gcc either
[21:04]	techrights-news	#Steghide tutorial for beginners - Linux Hint https://linuxhint.com/steghide-beginners-tutorial/ #LinuxHint #GNU #Linux #Steganography
[21:04]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxhint.com | Steghide tutorial for beginners Linux Hint
[21:04]	techrights-news	Hurrah, Chrome for Linux Now Supports CSD Properly http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154211 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[21:04]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Hurrah, Chrome for Linux Now Supports CSD Properly | Tux Machines
[21:05]	schestowitz-TR	activelow: no netsurf anymore?
[21:06]	techrights-news	#Kubernetes 1.22: Reaching New Peaks http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154212 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[21:06]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kubernetes 1.22: Reaching New Peaks | Tux Machines
[21:06]	activelow	schestowitz-TR: netsurf doesn't cause any trouble.
[21:06]	techrights-news	#Kubernetes 1.22: Reaching New Peaks http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154212 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[21:08]	techrights-news	Losca: MotionPhoto / MicroVideo File Formats on Pixel Phones http://losca.blogspot.com/2021/03/motionphoto-microvideo-file-formats-on.html
[21:08]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-losca.blogspot.com | Losca: MotionPhoto / MicroVideo File Formats on Pixel Phones
[21:09]	activelow	but i patched and maintained some older version of mozilla/seamonkey which i am not willing to maintain anymore: python2.7, regular javascript deadlocks, painfully slow, and updates requires llvm/clang for rust lang
[21:09]	activelow	mozilla license forbids distributing an older version too, so i'll drop that
[21:10]	activelow	and since netsurf cannot (and should not and must not) support the latest web-crap script, i'll try to cleanup webkit-gtk as an alternative to mozilla now
[21:12]	Noisytoot	I think that's the trademark license, not the copyright license
[21:12]	Noisytoot	rebrand it
[21:15]	activelow	Noisytoot: my long-term plans are different anyway, drop gcc and c++ entirely. not worth the effort anymore. it's ruined.
[21:20]	Noisytoot	What will you use instead of gcc?
[21:22]	activelow	very good question, it is a gradual process anyway, with a fist step succeeded already: gcc retained and c++ dropped only, and a bootable busybox system with gentoo tooling available.
[21:23]	techrights-news	Godot Engine - Multiplayer in Godot 4.0: On servers, RSETs and state updates https://godotengine.org/article/multiplayer-changes-godot-4-0-report-1 #godotengine #deletegithub
[21:23]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-godotengine.org | Godot Engine - Multiplayer in Godot 4.0: On servers, RSETs and state updates
[21:24]	activelow	and, at least, I can create various cross-compilation setups already, for any target architecture to proceed with.
[21:25]	activelow	with amd64 several options exist, for aarch64 i have no idea yet. and since amd64 is dead-end i'll not invest any efforts into this anymore.
[21:26]	techrights-news	Microsoft-funded 'analyst' basing its 'study' of #programming languages on #Microsoft ; or based on a set of projects that chose Microsoft #proprietarysoftware for code hosting; is this scientific? Of course not. https://redmonk.com/sogrady/2021/08/05/language-rankings-6-21/ #redmonk #deletegithuc
[21:26]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The RedMonk Programming Language Rankings: June 2021 tecosystems
[21:33]	techrights-news	power-profiles-daemon: Follow-up http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154213 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[21:33]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | power-profiles-daemon: Follow-up | Tux Machines
[21:33]	techrights-news	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154214 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[21:33]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines
[21:36]	techrights-news	#GitHub is the wrong platform and choosing it is a hallmark of bad taste and irrationality https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/08/05/board-for-60-esp-01-modules-that-update-firmware-from-github-mine-duino-coins/ #deletegithub
[21:36]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Board for 60 ESP-01 modules that update firmware from Github, mine "Duino Coins" - CNX Software
[21:41]	techrights-news	More new videos of #JingPad http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154202#comment-30479
[21:41]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Audiocasts/Shows: JingPad, BSDNow, and Ubuntu Podcast | Tux Machines
[21:46]	techrights-news	#mozilla #firefox #surveillance #telemetry #deletegithub https://blog.mozilla.org/data/2021/08/05/this-week-in-glean-building-a-mobile-acquisition-dashboard-in-looker/
[21:46]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | This Week in Glean: Building a Mobile Acquisition Dashboard in Looker Data@Mozilla
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[21:48]	techrights-news	#covid19 ... just stay home. http://tenfourfox.blogspot.com/2021/08/and-now-for-something-completely.html
[21:48]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tenfourfox.blogspot.com | TenFourFox Development: And now for something completely different: Australia needs to cut the crap with expats
[21:48]	techrights-news	The state of enterprise #freesw in the financial services industry http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154215 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[21:48]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The state of enterprise open source in the financial services industry | Tux Machines
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[21:50]	techrights-news	"the #Firefox Add-ons Manager, and other places we promote extensions, we believe our curatorial process should include a wide range of perspectives from our global community of contributors." "https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2021/08/05/thank-you-recommended-extensions-community-board/ #mozilla
[21:50]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | Thank you, Recommended Extensions Community Board! | Mozilla Add-ons Community Blog
[21:51]	techrights-news	#Python gets a "Developer-in-Residence" https://lwn.net/Articles/864472/
[21:51]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Python gets a "Developer-in-Residence" [LWN.net]
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[21:53]	techrights-news	A look forward to #Linux Plumbers 2021 https://lwn.net/Articles/864016/
[21:53]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A look forward to Linux Plumbers 2021 [LWN.net]
[21:57]	techrights-news	#Samsung Revs Its In-Kernel #SMB3 Server Focused On Fast Performance, New Features - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Samsung-KSMBD-v7 #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux
[21:57]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Samsung Revs Its In-Kernel SMB3 Server Focused On Fast Performance, New Features - Phoronix
[21:58]	techrights-news	#FUTEX2 Patches Sent Out In Simpler Form For Helping Windows #Games On Linux - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=FUTEX2-Simpler-Patches #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux
[21:58]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-FUTEX2 Patches Sent Out In Simpler Form For Helping Windows Games On Linux - Phoronix
● Aug 05
[22:00]	DaemonFC	You can redistribute any version you want as long as you don't use one of their trademarks.
[22:00]	techrights-news	Unlock the Chromecast with Google TV bootloader to run LineageOS or Ubuntu (older models only) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154216
[22:00]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Unlock the Chromecast with Google TV bootloader to run LineageOS or Ubuntu (older models only) | Tux Machines
[22:00]	techrights-news	#Kernel: FUTEX2, SMB3, and New LWN Articles About Linux (Paywall Expiry) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154217 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[22:00]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: FUTEX2, SMB3, and New LWN Articles About Linux (Paywall Expiry) | Tux Machines
[22:02]	schestowitz-TR	DaemonFC: how many do they have?
[22:02]	schestowitz-TR	firefox, mozlla, fennec...
[22:02]	schestowitz-TR	they don't seem to like things called wolf or fox
[22:02]	schestowitz-TR	as if they have a semi-monopoly on canines
[22:02]	schestowitz-TR	in the browser context
[22:04]	DaemonFC	Probably got tired of finding out everything they named a product was taken.
[22:06]	Noisytoot	use a UUID as a name
[22:06]	Noisytoot	or a long random string
[22:06]	MinceR	or name everything as "Mozilla " + something
[22:06]	Noisytoot	Mozilla 4834b07e-18d3-472d-a6de-a9679acfa467
[22:07]	Noisytoot	or WBTMAVz2kgsplkedTi05bxfJUoWjx+Z2/8MREU5oUyy+UjqIhXegM6SwJepgeu7WTbIkBO7ouP8=
[22:08]	psydruid	Godzilla ate Mousezilla
[22:09]	MinceR	browser.mozilla.org
[22:09]	MinceR	though i guess .com fits them better now
[22:14]	techrights-news	Links 5/8/2021: Kubernetes 1.22, Alpine 3.14.1, Cutelee 6 http://techrights.org/2021/08/05/kubernetes-1-22/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/05/kubernetes-1-22/
[22:14]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 5/8/2021: Kubernetes 1.22, Alpine 3.14.1, Cutelee 6 | Techrights
[22:14]	psydruid	> Seems like ad. "This review unit was kindly sent over for testing by Tyan." No connection to #linux either...
[22:14]	psydruid	The elephant in the room is that a server with Ampere Altra (soon Max), if available on the open market, would be preferable to whatever Tyan/Dell/HP/Lenovo server with an Intel or AMD CPU you could get at a higher price ... if your servers run GNU/Linux
[22:17]	MinceR	https://lists.suckless.org/dev/2106/34335.html   https://lists.suckless.org/dev/2106/34337.html
[22:17]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.suckless.org | [dev] Update outdated suckless website from Martin Tournoij on 2021-06-11 (dev mail list archive)
[22:17]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.suckless.org | Re: [dev] Update outdated suckless website from Hiltjo Posthuma on 2021-06-11 (dev mail list archive)
[22:22]	schestowitz-TR	"
[22:22]	schestowitz-TR	200ms seems still a bit high, maybe we could use geolocated CDNs of the 
[22:22]	schestowitz-TR	reliable Fastly CDN for negative latency. 
[22:22]	schestowitz-TR	"
[22:22]	schestowitz-TR	LOL
[22:23]	techrights-news	#suckless nails it! https://lists.suckless.org/dev/2106/34335.html https://lists.suckless.org/dev/2106/34337.html I use and love some of their programs.
[22:24]	techrights-news	l><li>
[22:24]	techrights-news	#Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154218 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[22:24]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
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[22:34]	schestowitz-TR	Konversation managed to east up over 200mb of ram
[22:35]	schestowitz-TR	a bug of some kind after weeks of running 
[22:36]	techrights-news	#System76 "The Production Team is responsible for making our physical products a reality. In this weeks Spotlight, we talk with our Production Manager and 4th-generation machinist Chris Fielder." https://blog.system76.com/post/658696084482293760/behind-the-scenes-production-team#_=_
[22:36]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.system76.com | System76 Blog Behind the Scenes: Production Team
[22:37]	techrights-news	#Krita brushes 2021 bundle https://www.davidrevoy.com/article854/krita-brushes-2021-bundle #kde #art #freesw
[22:37]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.davidrevoy.com | Krita brushes 2021 bundle - David Revoy
[22:38]	techrights-news	"The release process for #Kafka 3.0.0 continued. Code freeze happened on July 20. There are currently a handful of blocker JIRAs that need to be fixed. Once these are addressed, Konstantine Karantasis will start building the first release candidate." https://developer.ibm.com/blogs/kafka-monthly-digest-2021-07/
[22:38]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developer.ibm.com | Kafka Monthly Digest July 2021 IBM Developer
[22:41]	techrights-news	"Bouffalo Labs BL602 is a low-cost, low-power #RISCV microcontroller that offers 2.4 GHz WiFi and Bluetooth 5.0 LE connectivity for IoT projects for about the price of ESP8266. We first discovered it last year, together with a development board." https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/08/05/bl-63b-a-smaller-bl602-iot-module-1-5-dollars/
[22:41]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | BL-63B - A smaller BL602 IoT module that sells for $1.5 - CNX Software
[22:42]	techrights-news	Canonical's Design and Web team summary 30 July 2021 https://ubuntu.com//blog/design-and-web-team-summary-30-july-2021 #ubuntu #gnu #linux
[22:42]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Design and Web team summary 30 July 2021 | Ubuntu
[22:44]	techrights-news	#microsoft #ooxml is still #chaos and #crime (yes, lots of #corruption and crime) https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2021/08/05/fixing-an-interoperability-bug-in-libreoffice-missing-lines-from-docx-part-2-3/s see http://techrights.org/ooxml-abuse-index/
[22:44]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.documentfoundation.org | So Paulo LibreOffice Hack-Doc 2017 - The Document Foundation Blog
[22:44]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | OOXML Abuse Index | Techrights
[22:46]	DaemonFC	https://wgntv.com/news/bodycam-footage-released-after-woman-shot-by-police-dies-in-dolton
[22:46]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wgntv.com | Bodycam footage released after woman shot by police, dies in Dolton | WGN-TV
[22:46]	schestowitz-TR	don't start
[22:46]	DaemonFC	I commented: "A woman who drove over police officers is dead after arguing with minimum wage employees that there should be chicken wings at 4 AM and banging on the glass with what appears to be a baseball bat.
[22:46]	schestowitz-TR	it is off topic
[22:46]	DaemonFC	I don't think we lost a cancer cure."
[22:46]	DaemonFC	Bodycams.
[22:47]	DaemonFC	Shows her getting combative and acting stupid, and the police doing nothing wrong. You still have to wonder where the investigation goes because everyone has lost their minds and the politicians will take this off into some alternate reality.
[22:47]	schestowitz-TR	put that in -social or #techpol
[22:47]	DaemonFC	I started filming everything going on outside my car with a dashcam after the accident.
[22:48]	DaemonFC	If there is a next time, I'll slip it to my lawyer and the insurance company and they can decide what to do.
[22:48]	techrights-news	Chris Lord: OffscreenCanvas update http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154219 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[22:48]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Chris Lord: OffscreenCanvas update | Tux Machines
[22:48]	DaemonFC	I've heard of people handing it to the police and then there's something that's evidence that's useful against them, so they can just find out from my attorney that I recorded the whold damned thing.
[22:49]	DaemonFC	*whole
[22:52]	techrights-news	The Call For Papers and Call For Sponsors for #PGConf NYC 2021 are now open! https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/pgconf-nyc-2021-call-for-papers-and-sponsors-opens-2270/ #postgresql #psql
[22:52]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.postgresql.org | PostgreSQL: PGConf NYC 2021 Call for Papers and Sponsors Opens!
[22:53]	techrights-news	Reproducible Builds: #ReproducibleBuilds in July 2021 https://reproducible-builds.org/reports/2021-07/ #security
[22:53]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Reproducible Builds in July 2021 reproducible-builds.org
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[22:57]	techrights-news	"I recently learnt about 2 really interesting tools known as pushd and popd as well how Linux doesn't just remember it's current directory but also maintains a diectory stack and I thought it'd be fun to explore how it works." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zU5GWc8Vri8
[22:57]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Pushd Popd: The Power Of The Directory Stack - YouTube
[22:58]	techrights-news	"Anytime someone mentions any text editor (like Vi/m, Emacs, Nano, etc.), someone will make the joke that "ed is the standard editor." While it's a joke, 'ed' actually was the standard text editor for Unix in the early days of Unix." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zpdo6We-_e0
[22:58]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ed Is The Standard Text Editor For Unix/Linux - YouTube
● Aug 05
[23:00]	techrights-news	"Web servers are used for hosting websites and data for web applications. In this article, we explain what is a web server and how does it work." https://linuxiac.com/what-is-web-server/ http://techrights.org/2021/06/29/survey-server-report/
[23:00]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxiac.com | Web Server: What is it, How it Works, and What it is Used for
[23:00]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Has Become Almost Extinct in Web Servers (and in Servers in General), But the Mainstream Media Rarely If Ever Talks About That | Techrights
[23:04]	psydruid	Intel is the master and Linux is the slave that must adhere to the new allow/deny policy signed off by Greywolf
[23:04]	techrights-news	Ouch. Marketing #firefox based on a background picture is like trying to convince people to switch #gnu #linux for the distro's WALLPAPER :-) https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/extensions-addons/perseid-meteor-shower-online-resources-firefox-themes/
[23:04]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | Perseid meteor shower on your mind? Check out these online resources for newbie astronomers plus 6 Firefox themes for daytime stargazing.
[23:04]	techrights-news	#Pantabox offers easier frontend for Pantavisor Linux IoT container software http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154220 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[23:04]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Pantabox offers easier frontend for Pantavisor Linux IoT container software | Tux Machines
[23:07]	schestowitz-TR	psydruid: linux is slave
[23:07]	schestowitz-TR	m.e. is master
[23:07]	schestowitz-TR	based on minix without bothering to inform minix
[23:07]	techrights-news	#Debian 11 Bullseye is headed to Chrome OS http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154221 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[23:07]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian 11 Bullseye is headed to Chrome OS | Tux Machines
[23:08]	DaemonFC	schestowitz-TR, LOL NO VO had to "rollback" the management engine.
[23:08]	DaemonFC	For reasons that they did not specify in the BIOS release notes.
[23:08]	DaemonFC	Their uEFI firmware kind of sounds like spaghetti code to me. One of their official updates managed to break Windows, thankfully before I had done anything with the computer.
[23:09]	DaemonFC	I have pretty much zero confidence that the latest one fixes any of those 17 CVEs correctly.
[23:09]	DaemonFC	Also, they use BIOS updates to quietly remove important features after they sell the computer, like those laptops they sold in Germany and then removed h264 decode acceleration from.
[23:10]	DaemonFC	Since the code is secret, you don't get to see it, but you do get a glimpse at some of the disasters that uEFI brought with it, which totally undermine's mjg59_'s defense of it.
[23:12]	DaemonFC	"Funny noises". I've never thought they were funny, when they were on a car I owned. Though I did manage to sell one that was making bad noises to Gonad's daughter. I don't feel bad though.
[23:13]	DaemonFC	I told her that I thought it was rod knock and Gonad (a mechanic) told her to pour Lucas in it, and she did, and the car broke down two weeks after I sold it.
[23:13]	schestowitz	#Microsoft propagandist #LawrenceAbrams is at it again, trying to associate Linux with danger because some #proprietarysoftware thats a #GPLviolation (against Linux) is at risk from something that has nothing to do with Linux, maybe just weak passwords, misconfiguration etc. https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/linux-version-of-blackmatter-ransomware-targets-vmware-esxi-servers/ http://techrights.org/2020/04/28/openwashing-vmware-
[23:13]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | Linux version of BlackMatter ransomware targets VMware ESXi servers
[23:13]	schestowitz	after-gpl-abuses/
[23:13]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Linux Foundation Has Helped VMware Lie About Its Deliberate GPL Violations That are Connected to Microsoft, Another Prolific GPL Violator | Techrights
[23:13]	DaemonFC	But I only sold it for $400, so I mean, she could probably get that back as scrap.
[23:13]	DaemonFC	She's done so much worse, like burning them out because she wouldn't add oil, or buying cars with no title and then they ended up being stolen.
[23:14]	psydruid	by buying new x86 hardware to run GNU/Linux, which isn't and can't be the primary operating system that is supported, people promote or at least silently condone these practices
[23:15]	DaemonFC	This laptop could run Linux. They sell them with Ubuntu. Same hardware and stuff.
[23:15]	techrights-news	#Microsoft 's playbook is to directly or by proxy concern-troll "Linux" #security . http://techrights.org/2021/07/25/lectures-from-microsoft/ Projection tactics.
[23:15]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | No, Microsoft Does Not Get to Lecture Us on GNU/Linux Security (or Security in General) | Techrights
[23:15]	DaemonFC	I'm pretty certain that the latest respin of Fedora would work without having to do anything ridiculous.
[23:16]	DaemonFC	schestowitz, The uEFI firmware is a big stinking mess of its own that you frequently have to update now.
[23:16]	psydruid	but it's still promoting practices like UEFI that wouldn't exist in a truly competitive marketplace
[23:17]	DaemonFC	Garrett said they'd just keep patching it until it worked fine and all the bugs were gone. HAHAHAHAHAHA
[23:17]	techrights-news	#WindowsCentral -- an anti #gnu #linux propaganda site -- reminds us that #wsl and #wsl2 are basically ATTACKS on GNU/Linux. Thankfully, this attack failed spectacularly. http://techrights.org/2021/06/01/the-death-of-wsl-and-wsl2/
[23:17]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Death of WSL and WSL2 | Techrights
[23:20]	techrights-news	Zoom University actually created more opportunities than would have been available in person"... NO, Zoom is not EDUCATION but an ongoing #surveillance project. I'd never take seriously a university that adopts such hostile 'technology'... not innovative either. https://news.westernu.ca/2021/07/virtual-life-lessons/
[23:20]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.westernu.ca | Western News - Virtual life lessons
[23:22]	techrights-news	[Links intentionally omitted] #microsoft propaganda sites pushing #wsl and #wsl2 so hard (knowing it sucks and nobody uses it) shows that it's on its last leg. People are leaving. http://techrights.org/2021/06/01/the-death-of-wsl-and-wsl2/
[23:26]	schestowitz-TR	DaemonFC: that's what people get 6-figure salaries for... being malicious and harmful to society
[23:27]	DaemonFC	MARISOL
[23:27]	techrights-news	#mozilla should just block ads, instead. It is doable. https://www.theregister.com/2021/08/05/mozilla_postcookie_ad_tech/ #firefox should work for users, not Google (sponsor) and Facebook (where management comes from) http://techrights.org/2021/08/05/lousy-mozilla-management/
[23:27]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Mozilla slams post-cookie ad tech proposals SWAN and UID2 - needs much more work The Register
[23:27]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Firefox Cannot be Trusted at the Hands of Todays Mozilla Management | Techrights
[23:27]	DaemonFC	Then they bitch that they didn't get a stimulus check that was intended to keep people in their homes and with the heat on.
[23:27]	DaemonFC	There's nothing these people will ever be happy with, Roy.
[23:28]	DaemonFC	I can literally sit here drinking iced tea and reading a good book and I'm happy with that.
[23:28]	schestowitz-TR	helping cancer patients is important
[23:28]	schestowitz-TR	but overspending money on crap is reckless
[23:28]	DaemonFC	That's not what CTCA does.
[23:29]	schestowitz-TR	ok...
[23:29]	DaemonFC	They take them there and treat them like royalty until they run out of money and then dumps them. The results are no better than the average hospital.
[23:29]	DaemonFC	They overbill rich cancer patients and most of it is hooey. 
[23:29]	DaemonFC	Now that they're on the verge of bankruptcy they accept Medicare, for the real medicine bits. Medicare doesn't pay for bullshit.
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[23:30]	DaemonFC	Medicare doesn't pay what they're used to but they're in serious fiscal trouble and having empty slots and employees they have to pay anyway means they'd collapse faster.
[23:30]	techrights-news	"The presence of female elders in a family of giraffes helps the family survive. This may have to do with why giraffes evolved menopause." https://stallman.org/archives/2021-may-aug.html#5_August_2021_(Elder_giraffes)
[23:30]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | 2021: May - August Political Notes - Richard Stallman
[23:30]	DaemonFC	But it's coming, and one day I expect three letter agencies to be carrying out evidence boxes.
[23:31]	DaemonFC	schestowitz-TR, You can get perfectly good cancer treatment at Northwestern Medicine on Medicare. The best technology there is.
[23:32]	DaemonFC	Sometimes even stuff that's not approved yet, but you can only go there for the study and nothing else has a chance of working.
[23:32]	DaemonFC	But what MARISOL is, is worse than a "hospital" that loads people up with inflated bills and half their treatments aren't doing a damned thing to the cancer.
[23:32]		*GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights
[23:32]	techrights-news	An Apps for GNOME website http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154222 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[23:32]	DaemonFC	She's a politician. 
[23:33]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | An Apps for GNOME website | Tux Machines
[23:33]	schestowitz-TR	she is not
[23:33]	schestowitz-TR	she is a dutertard
[23:33]	DaemonFC	It may say "nurse", but she told Mandy that one of the reasons she won't work anywhere else is "I'd have to take care of patients.".
[23:33]	schestowitz-TR	duterte is a thug
[23:33]	DaemonFC	Here she can push papers around and be part of their outrageous bill.
[23:34]	DaemonFC	<schestowitz-TR> duterte is a thug
[23:34]	DaemonFC	Yeah, and Mandy voted for him apparently.
[23:34]	DaemonFC	It's a really fucked up country.
[23:34]	DaemonFC	They don't even get something better than him.
[23:34]	DaemonFC	Like, there's no election where it's like "Hey, this guy isn't as bad as Trump." like we just had.
[23:35]	schestowitz	https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/rodrigo-duterte-donald-trump-philippines-journalists-spies-human-rights-questions-asean-a8051946.html
[23:35]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.independent.co.uk | Rodrigo Duterte calls journalists spies drawing laughs from Donald Trump as the pair avoid human rights questions | The Independent | The Independent
[23:35]	schestowitz	https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/11/14/trump-chuckled-as-duterte-called-journalists-spies-thats-no-laughing-matter-in-the-philippines/
[23:35]	schestowitz	https://www.rappler.com/newsbreak/inside-track/duterte-reporters-you-are-spies-asean-summit-2017-philippines
[23:35]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.washingtonpost.com | Trump chuckled as Duterte called journalists spies. Thats no joke in the Philippines. - The Washington Post
[23:35]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rappler.com | Duterte tells reporters covering Trump meeting, 'You are spies'
[23:35]	schestowitz	https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/28/business/media/maria-ressa-arrested-philippines-rappler.html
[23:35]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Maria Ressa, Journalist Critical of Duterte, Is Arrested Again in Philippines - The New York Times
[23:35]	schestowitz	https://www.newsweek.com/trump-chuckles-philippines-strongman-president-duterte-denounces-journalists-709226
[23:35]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.newsweek.com | Trump Chuckles as Duterte Calls Journalists 'Spies' in Manila Meeting
[23:35]	DaemonFC	Duterte and Trump would both have had the journalists shot.
[23:35]	schestowitz	https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/feb/15/attacks-media-duterte-philippines-rappler-maria-ressa
[23:35]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Attacks on the media show Dutertes Philippines is heading for despotism | Joanna Fuertes-Knight | The Guardian
[23:35]	DaemonFC	But I'm sure that Duterte actually can arrange that.
[23:36]	DaemonFC	He shut them down apparently, though. Like, nobody can publish bad things about him.
[23:36]	schestowitz	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9L2qdZBD4IA
[23:36]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Trump laughs when Duterte calls journalists "spies" - YouTube
[23:37]	DaemonFC	That's the thing. You know, when Democrats are in the White House, they still let Fox News in. They still send administration officials to do interviews. Trump was such a chickenshit that he even turned on Fox in the end.
[23:37]	DaemonFC	Remember?
[23:37]	DaemonFC	He started going after fringe outfits like NewsMax and OANN.
[23:38]	DaemonFC	schestowitz, I'm just utterly repulsed by what the Republican "mainstream" has morphed into.
[23:38]	DaemonFC	I was not happy with George W. Bush but my opinion of them just keeps getting worse.
[23:38]	DaemonFC	Bush was like "Eh, maybe I'll get around to vote if I'm not terribly busy.".
[23:39]	DaemonFC	Getting rid of Trump was like "Let me in! Let me in!".
[23:40]	DaemonFC	Bush was a lot smarter in the sense that he made a lot of people content to sit on the fence, especially when the Democrats were not terribly bright and chose John Kerry. One of their least inspiring people during a bad year anyway.
[23:40]	DaemonFC	I remember talking to a lot of people, many didn't vote. They said "Why vote for Kerry? He's just Democrat Bush.".
[23:40]	DaemonFC	And they weren't wrong.
[23:41]	DaemonFC	Giving your party an alternative to what's in there already is kind of important, isn't it?
[23:42]	DaemonFC	I mean, Kerry on the issues was much the same as Bush. The wars would have gone on. The 2008 collapse would have happened right on schedule. He voted for the "bankruptcy reform" that saddled millions with crippling debt they can't pay.
[23:43]	DaemonFC	He wanted the gay marriage ban amendment.
[23:43]	DaemonFC	Literally nothing would have been different.
[23:46]	MinceR	that's the point of the two-party system
[23:46]	schestowitz-TR	mandy is foolish for supporting pol pot duterte
[23:46]	MinceR	it looks like the citizens are making meaningful choices, but in reality, everything that matters to the owners of the country happens exactly the way the owners want it to
[23:46]	schestowitz-TR	who openly bashes gays
[23:46]	schestowitz-TR	like mandy
[23:47]	schestowitz-TR	and uses "gay" as an insult against men who are hetero, too
[23:47]	schestowitz-TR	and marisol would know he thinks rape is a joking matter
[23:47]	schestowitz-TR	but I expect no logic from dutertards
[23:47]	schestowitz-TR	they'd even make excuses for it
[23:48]	schestowitz-TR	imagine trump calling biden "a fag"
[23:48]	schestowitz-TR	or saying US Army can rape women
[23:48]	schestowitz-TR	anyway, gn from me...
[23:49]	schestowitz-TR	I need to prepare for work
[23:55]		*XRevan86 opens to see https://hinner.com/ircstat/Socip_F.html if there's a fun new development, who knows, and there is: it's cut off.
[23:55]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Kajetan Hinner, IRC Statistics Freenode
[23:56]	XRevan86	Possibly didn't have a user, the whole thing looks untouched for years.
[23:57]	XRevan86	MinceR: Russia couldn't even do that, just devolved straight back to a one-party system.