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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Tails 3.16 is out http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127750 [https://pleroma.site/objects/92eac46a-f7a0-484b-8e84-fe62269d7ce9]Sep 05 02:20
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Arm-based touch-panel computer has a slim, 31.7mm profile http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127753 [https://pleroma.site/objects/0d18f09c-1a97-4da5-8522-2986debccd6a]Sep 05 02:51
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Events: GUADEC 2019 and Linux Plumbers Conference http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127754 [https://pleroma.site/objects/aaa5ae74-4558-4cb3-8a4e-c33c35ff6178]Sep 05 02:53
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Intel and Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127755 [https://pleroma.site/objects/04dd0cf1-020c-4f52-8ed1-17fad23ea57c]Sep 05 02:55
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Steam Games: Steam Library and Steam Linux Usage Reportedly Ticks Up http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127758 [https://pleroma.site/objects/f37b032f-d063-4902-99e8-46fcf0d8fd70]Sep 05 03:25
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: The new System76 Firmware Update Utility is a much-needed tool http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127759 [https://pleroma.site/objects/4ebe991b-497a-4d77-973d-9bbd397d4406]Sep 05 03:27
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Kernel: LWN's Latest Articles (Outside Paywall) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127760 [https://pleroma.site/objects/5961be0a-2080-456c-bced-4d0e21886186]Sep 05 03:29
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Repurpose Your Old Laptop [with GNU/Linux] http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127761 [https://pleroma.site/objects/7e220a80-397c-4438-95ed-5e59f42d825f]Sep 05 03:33
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: OSS Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127762 [https://pleroma.site/objects/da234a9c-99ce-4307-a4db-051b4a760fa1]Sep 05 03:37
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Security Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127763 [https://pleroma.site/objects/003ceca0-9f63-4b9c-bff9-a548576c4975]Sep 05 03:45
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Audiocasts/Show: FLOSS Weekly, BSD Now, mintCast, Talk Python http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127764 [https://pleroma.site/objects/7a81c215-2e39-4f2f-b650-5ce6b3abaa4d]Sep 05 04:32
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schestowitz"Re: just gets better and better"Sep 05 05:16
schestowitz> i think we need (yet) more opportunities for people to think about threats to free sw. im creating (yet) another radar system for it.Sep 05 05:16
schestowitz> Sep 05 05:16
schestowitz> oh and endless os-- alexander found this gem: https://endlessos.com/pay-as-you-go/ we only found this because ive spent a day investigating endless os-- it is really something in terms of non-free based on free sw. worse than canonical, but really a demo of how terrible for freedom flatpak is. i still think universal packages have potential, but flakpak being controlled by one corporation and their servers-- yeah, thats bad. and endless is Sep 05 05:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-endlessos.com | Pay as you Go | Endless ComputersSep 05 05:16
schestowitza perfect example of abuse.Sep 05 05:16
schestowitz> Sep 05 05:16
schestowitzhttps://placeholderapi.wordpress.com/2019/09/05/esr-advocating-guns-again-as-if-peaceful-protesters-in-hk-are-lo/#comment-15152Sep 05 05:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-placeholderapi.wordpress.com | #esr advocating guns again. As if peaceful protesters in #hk are lo… | Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊)Sep 05 05:21
schestowitz"Sep 05 05:21
schestowitzHey. The HK protesters have publicly said they need the Second Amendment, and they’re not wrong.Sep 05 05:21
schestowitzThe point of 2A is to make armed revolt sufficiently possible that it will never actually become necessary.Sep 05 05:21
schestowitz"Sep 05 05:21
schestowitzESR responded to me Sep 05 05:21
schestowitzHey. The HK protesters have publicly said they need the Second Amendment, and they’re not wrong.Sep 05 05:21
schestowitzThe point of 2A is to make armed revolt sufficiently possible that it will never actually become necessary.Sep 05 05:21
schestowitzWho among these protesters said that and are they representatives? Source/s?Sep 05 05:22
DaemonFC[m]The state of Illinois simply removed my right to own a gun until next year.Sep 05 05:24
DaemonFC[m]Rights aren't rights if someone can take them away.Sep 05 05:24
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Links 5/9/2019: Repurposing Old Laptops, Steam GNU/Linux Usage Reportedly Up, Tails 3.16 http://techrights.org/2019/09/04/tails-3-16/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/1be47791-e0c8-4c72-8943-5853d1df8660]Sep 05 06:24
schestowitzboo hooSep 05 06:24
schestowitzgunsSep 05 06:24
schestowitzesr just thinks he's scary ("armed and dangerous") because of bulletsSep 05 06:25
schestowitz                  <li>Sep 05 06:28
schestowitz                    <h5>[Old] <a href="http://kroah.com/log/blog/2019/08/14/patch-workflow-with-mutt-2019/">Patch Workflow With Mutt - 2019</a></h5>Sep 05 06:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kroah.com | Patch workflow with mutt - 2019 - Linux Kernel Monkey LogSep 05 06:28
schestowitz                    <blockquote>Sep 05 06:28
schestowitz                      <p>Note, this isn’t a criticism of mutt at all. I love the tool, and spend more time using that userspace program than any other. But as anyone who knows email clients, they all suck, it’s just that mutt sucks less than everything else (that’s literally their motto)Sep 05 06:28
schestowitz </p>Sep 05 06:28
schestowitz                      <p>Sep 05 06:28
schestowitzI did a (basic overview of how I apply patches to the stable kernel trees quite a few years ago) but my workflow has evolved over time, so instead of just writing a private email to Drew, I figured it was time to post something showing others just how the sausage really is made.Sep 05 06:28
schestowitz </p>Sep 05 06:28
schestowitz                      <p>Sep 05 06:28
schestowitzAnyway, my email workflow can be divided up into 3 different primary things that I do: [...]Sep 05 06:29
schestowitz</p></blockquote></li>Sep 05 06:29
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Firefox 69 Released with Default Tracking Protection Enabled. http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127767 [https://pleroma.site/objects/c267b652-e442-45c9-948b-d5e8266f5912]Sep 05 10:17
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Developers Italia and the New Guidelines: Let the Open Source Revolution Start! An Interview with Leonardo Favario http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127769 [https://pleroma.site/objects/4fe5e1bc-e97c-4e11-b55a-b4c1205cd3ef]Sep 05 10:32
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Dell Has A New Dedicated Site For Ubuntu And RHEL-Certified Linux Desktops And Laptops http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127772 [https://pleroma.site/objects/3ff5ad69-18ff-4f72-90aa-653c77fd456b]Sep 05 10:48
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XRevan86I've just a few days ago been thinking that the dovecot vulnerability makes my software choice for email not that bulletproof, but I'm still better off without a resheto that is Exim.Sep 05 12:39
XRevan86https://openwall.com/lists/oss-security/2019/09/04/1Sep 05 12:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.openwall.com | oss-security - CVE-2019-15846: Exim - local or remote attacker can execute programs with root privileges.Sep 05 12:40
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: PinePhone Remains On Track For Shipping In The Months Ahead http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127774 [https://pleroma.site/objects/afe854ba-51b6-4df5-a402-5025b08e381d]Sep 05 15:05
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: PinePhone begins shipping to developers this month ($150 Linux smartphone) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127775#new [https://pleroma.site/objects/671ccc28-ac0a-4515-97b9-46e7823cf43b]Sep 05 16:00
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XRevan86https://loadaverage.org/notice/17909387 now I've seen everythingSep 05 17:23
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Librem 5 Linux Phone Starts Shipping September 24th in Batches Until Q4 2020 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127783 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d16097f9-8ab1-459a-b933-20758407a116]Sep 05 17:38
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Running Intel's Clear Linux On AMD EPYC Rome? Still Significant Performance Uplift Over Ubuntu http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127785 [https://pleroma.site/objects/c1407ded-1ba7-4f97-9c00-c3104349b392]Sep 05 17:43
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Links 5/9/2019: LibreOffice 6.3.1 and LibreOffice 6.2.7, PinePhone and Librem 5 Coming http://techrights.org/2019/09/05/librem-5-coming/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/78b81243-131d-4050-b6d7-e732d96e7df8]Sep 05 19:02
MinceR(audio:important) https://i.imgur.com/1bGF9YR.mp4Sep 05 19:08
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MinceRi haven't seen spambots in a while, so i'll try unquieting unidentified usersSep 05 19:43
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MinceR(audio:important) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2019/06/24/c69046e68a82afeb.mp4Sep 05 19:49
schestowitzMinceR: cheersSep 05 20:00
schestowitzXRevan86: https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15912336Sep 05 20:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: RMS asked everyone at #microsoft explicitly not to take photos at his talk. But of course they did. Trusting #microsoft is... well... http://techrights.org/2019/09/05/explaining-software-freedom-to-microsoft/Sep 05 20:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Richard Stallman Lectures Microsoft on Free Software and Software Freedom | TechrightsSep 05 20:05
XRevan86schestowitz: The same level of reliability as alwaysSep 05 20:09
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MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/Mc65Mh4.jpgSep 05 20:19
XRevan86Republicans are burnt Democrats?Sep 05 20:22
MinceR:>Sep 05 20:22
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scientesthere is no differences between the two partiesSep 05 20:38
scientesits like choosing whether to take a shit or a pissSep 05 20:38
MinceRthere are differences, but they are minorSep 05 20:40
MinceRfor example, the republican party seems to favor christian fundamentalism slightly moreSep 05 20:40
scientesand?Sep 05 20:41
scienteswhat colors are the tulips in my manure pile?Sep 05 20:41
schestowitzwhat about people's views about the RMS talk?Sep 05 20:42
schestowitzRemember: Mary Jo Foley wasn't at the RMS talk. Someone from #microsoft -- likely the PR department -- gave her a 'prepared' piece after they had invited RMS. Only >she< covered it, so they control the narrative (we "listen to Freedom...")  http://techrights.org/2019/09/05/explaining-software-freedom-to-microsoft/ Sep 05 20:42
MinceRthat the democrats favor it lessSep 05 20:42
MinceRi don't really care about RMS anymoreSep 05 20:42
schestowitzI didn't see reactions online yetSep 05 20:42
schestowitzjust the ZDNet tabloid pieceSep 05 20:43
MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/UVjQtbB.mp4   ( https://imgur.com/gallery/UVjQtbB )Sep 05 20:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Meanwhile on the other side of the world… - GIF on ImgurSep 05 20:44
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MinceRhttps://imgur.com/gallery/FuJz1kDSep 05 22:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-My Favorite Trolley Problem Crossovers - Album on ImgurSep 05 22:55
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