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[00:17]	IsambardPrince	schestowitz[TR2], If I had a dollar for everyone who tries to get a mortgage 5 minutes after bankruptcy...
[00:17]	IsambardPrince	I would have a lot of dollar dollar bills, yo.
[00:18]	IsambardPrince	What makes them think it's wise to get a mortgage with ruined and shitty credit, without rebuilding it at all, without waiting for 4 years, without trying to get a better interest rate, and before they can easily file again if the thing goes sideways?
[00:18]	IsambardPrince	Bankruptcy is basically the only part of the safety net there is left.
[00:19]	IsambardPrince	It's supposed to be a weapon of last resort, but with things in this country being worse than ever, it's often the only answer.
[00:19]	IsambardPrince	Bankruptcy is basically saying "This guy is completely and totally broke. You are ordered to stop kicking him while he's down."
[00:20]	IsambardPrince	But the reason it doesn't work so well in modern times is, people are never far from that, usually.
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[02:40]	TR Bot	 Freddy Brewster on Supermarket Megamerger FAIR
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[04:16]		liberty_box libertybox2_ libertybox2__ libertybox2___ libredev lightbringer logbackup lxo 
[04:16]	schestowitz[TR2]	lxo: let's encrypt is not in "evil mode" yet
[04:16]	schestowitz[TR2]	same for other CAs
[04:17]	schestowitz[TR2]	they are in "adopt" mode
[04:18]	IsambardPrince	$96 for an oil change at the dealer. LOL
[04:18]	IsambardPrince	They send me mail about this. I just did it for $23.
[04:19]	schestowitz[TR2]	<lxo> as for the donation of Mono to Wine...  remember that Mono was always suspected of infringing on patents, and that Microsoft's distributing it offered an implicit patent license in most jurisdictions?  with MS out of the loop, that protection is no longer available
[04:19]	schestowitz[TR2]	same.
[04:19]	schestowitz[TR2]	"adopt" mode
[04:19]	schestowitz[TR2]	adopt, worry later
[04:19]	IsambardPrince	https://www.investopedia.com/average-credit-card-interest-rate-5076674
[04:19]	TR Bot	 Average Credit Card Interest Rate for August 2024: 24.74% APR
[04:19]	IsambardPrince	Went up another 1%.
[04:20]	schestowitz[TR2]	"I saw that internally inside Microsoft many times when I was told to stay away from supporting Mono in public. They reserve the right to sue"
[04:20]	schestowitz[TR2]	http://twitter.com/Scobleizer/statuses/764673949
[04:20]	TR Bot	response
[04:21]	IsambardPrince	schestowitz[TR2], I need dental work.
[04:21]	IsambardPrince	Not major, but there's some problems starting.
[04:22]	IsambardPrince	Dentist said I could put it off a few months. I'll hurry up and sign up for dental insurance through Walmart for next year, go deal with it then.
[04:22]	schestowitz[TR2]	IsambardPrince: i see your removed some old blog posts
[04:23]	schestowitz[TR2]	how many due to threats you received?
[04:23]	IsambardPrince	I don't think I did.
[04:24]	IsambardPrince	I'll probably end up taking out a personal loan to fix my teeth.
[04:24]	IsambardPrince	I hate this country.
[04:24]	IsambardPrince	I hope the insurance I get next year at least helps.
[04:24]	schestowitz[TR2]	https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2023/07/31/matthew-garrett-denies-being-sock-puppet-who-makes-jokes-about-aids-bestiality-and-necrophilia-and-source-of-botnet-attacks-in-irc-chat-also-mozilla-pays-pr-firms-to-monitor-critics/
[04:24]	TR Bot	( status 404 @ https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2023/07/31/matthew-garrett-denies-being-sock-puppet-who-makes-jokes-about-aids-bestiality-and-necrophilia-and-source-of-botnet-attacks-in-irc-chat-also-mozilla-pays-pr-firms-to-monitor-critics/ )
[04:24]	schestowitz[TR2]	it also covers Mozilla
[04:24]	schestowitz[TR2]	and how they spy on bloggers
[04:24]	schestowitz[TR2]	for criticisssing them
[04:25]	IsambardPrince	meh
[04:26]	TR News	[cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D1394.jpg
[04:26]	TR News	[cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D1045.jpg
[04:27]	TR News	The Source-of-Truth Problem gemini://jsreed5.org/log/2024/202409/20240904-the-source-of-truth-problem.gmi
[04:27]	IsambardPrince	"The average price of a new car is $46,085 as of February 2022, up 11.4% from a year ago. So it's no surprise that consumers increasingly finance their purchases with longer-term loans.
[04:27]	IsambardPrince	1
[04:27]	IsambardPrince	 The average auto loan term is about 70 months while the most common is 72 months.
[04:27]	IsambardPrince	2"
[04:27]	IsambardPrince	schestowitz[TR2], Mom said that in the early 90s, 3-4 years was "a long time" to borrow money for a car.
[04:27]	IsambardPrince	And "felt like forever while you were paying it".
[04:28]	IsambardPrince	Catches on quick, doesn't she?
[04:28]	TR News	"I think I am going through something...maybe imposter syndrome?" gopher://sdf.org:70/1/users/xiled/phlog/2024/20240724_7_eleven
[04:28]	TR News	Longing for autumn gopher://sdf.org:70/1/users/xiled/phlog/2024/20240904_autumn
[04:29]	IsambardPrince	schestowitz[TR2], People in Reddit gambling with credit card money.
[04:29]	IsambardPrince	This is how you know you live in a failed country.
[04:29]	IsambardPrince	Borrow at 30% and gamble it.
[04:31]	IsambardPrince	schestowitz[TR2], Mom said she got turned down for a loan once for "too many credit cards".
[04:31]	IsambardPrince	I asked how many she had. She said 14.
[04:31]	IsambardPrince	That sounds implausible.
[04:32]	IsambardPrince	If she had 14 credit cards she would have maxed them all and then filed bankruptcy.
[04:32]	IsambardPrince	She has no self control.
[04:33]	IsambardPrince	There's so many credit cards out there now that even AMC movie theaters has one.
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[04:43]	TR News	You had one job and four US regulators will share info to check a merger didn't unfairly end it https://www.theregister.com/2024/09/04/mergers_us_layoffs/
[04:43]	TR Bot	 Feds to weigh labor market impact of mergers The Register
[04:44]	TR News	Until Dawn Remake Developer Ballistic Moon Acknowledges 'Significant' Layoffs https://www.ign.com/articles/until-dawn-remake-developer-ballistic-moon-lays-off-several-staff
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[04:45]	TR News	Intel's missed AI opportunity might prompt it to pump the brakes on its $32 billion Magdeburg project and sell Altera to keep the lights on https://www.windowscentral.com/hardware/intel/intels-missed-ai-opportunity-might-prompt-it-to-pump-the-brakes-on-its-dollar32-billion-magdeburg-project-and-sell-altera-to-keep-the-lights-on
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[04:47]	TR News	Intels next-gen chip manufacturing process reportedly hits snag after failing crucial tests https://autos.yahoo.com/intels-next-gen-chip-manufacturing-process-reportedly-hits-snag-after-failing-crucial-tests-172220843.html
[04:47]	TR Bot	 Intels next-gen chip manufacturing process reportedly hits snag after failing crucial tests
[04:49]	TR News	August tech layoffs surpassed 26K, highest level since January https://www.cfodive.com/news/tech-layoffs-surpassed-27k-august-highest-level-generativeai/726111/
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[04:50]	TR News	Over 27,000 tech employees loses job in August 2024: Intel, Cisco, IBM, Apple and others cuts thousands of jobs https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/technology/tech-news/over-27000-tech-employees-loses-job-in-august-2024-intel-cisco-ibm-apple-and-others-cuts-thousands-of-jobs/articleshow/112974050.cms
[04:50]	TR Bot	 Over 27,000 tech employees loses job in August 2024: Intel, Cisco, IBM, Apple and others cuts thousands of jobs - Times of India
[04:55]	TR News	MemHive: sharing immutable data between Python subinterpreters https://lwn.net/Articles/987238/
[04:55]	TR Bot	sharing immutable data between Python subinterpreters [LWN.net]
[04:56]	TR News	The history, status, and plans for reproducible builds https://lwn.net/Articles/985739/
[04:56]	TR Bot	history, status, and plans for reproducible builds [LWN.net]
[04:57]	TR News	A new version of modversions https://lwn.net/Articles/986892/
[04:57]	TR Bot	new version of modversions [LWN.net]
[04:59]	TR News	Debian discusses principles for package maintenance https://lwn.net/Articles/986480/
[04:59]	TR Bot	discusses principles for package maintenance [LWN.net]
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[05:00]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines NIST Releases First Post-Quantum Encryption Algorithms
[05:00]	lxo	schestowitz[TR2], what's the threat you envision for when Let's Encrypt moves on to the next phase?
[05:01]	TR News	 (NEW):  LWN on Python, Debian, and Kernel https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/05/LWN_on_Python_Debian_and_Kernel.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/05/LWN_on_Python_Debian_and_Kernel.gmi 
[05:01]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines LWN on Python, Debian, and Kernel
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[05:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	lxo: i cannot comment on brazil, but
[05:03]	schestowitz[TR2]	in the uk, obama already started establishing some agencies to combat "misinformation"
[05:03]	schestowitz[TR2]	in the uk we got some around 2020
[05:03]	schestowitz[TR2]	that's at government level
[05:03]	schestowitz[TR2]	there are other levels
[05:03]	schestowitz[TR2]	also commercial levels
[05:03]	schestowitz[TR2]	and private ISP levels
[05:04]	schestowitz[TR2]	over time they utilise more kill switches
[05:04]	schestowitz[TR2]	to "protect" us
[05:04]	schestowitz[TR2]	my access to a site should not depend on the status of some third party string of bytes
[05:04]	schestowitz[TR2]	which this site does not control
[05:04]	schestowitz[TR2]	and when I boot my PC it should not be Microsoft deciding iff that's "OK"
[05:04]	schestowitz[TR2]	or 'safe'
[05:05]	schestowitz[TR2]	>> <schestowitz[TR2]> in the uk, obama already 
[05:05]	schestowitz[TR2]	in the US, obv, not uk
[05:06]	schestowitz[TR2]	in brazil you see how the "melon" uses starlink to bypass orders for the SUPREME court
[05:06]	schestowitz[TR2]	because he "feels like it..."
[05:08]	IsambardPrince	schestowitz[TR2], That's because there's no right to free speech in the UK.
[05:08]	schestowitz[TR2]	we have magna carta
[05:08]	IsambardPrince	So you don't have the right to visit and read a website.
[05:08]	schestowitz[TR2]	it's not it
[05:08]	schestowitz[TR2]	but close
[05:08]	lxo	IIUC, the threat model is that Let's Encrypt would be asked/ordered to pull the plug on certain undesirable web sites, and they'd have to fall back to self-signed certificates
[05:08]	IsambardPrince	It's hard for the government to come in and block a website in the US unless there's something criminally wrong with it elsewhere.
[05:09]	schestowitz[TR2]	IsambardPrince: in the us, automattic (texas or CA) took down your blog
[05:09]	schestowitz[TR2]	for insulting Applle
[05:09]	schestowitz[TR2]	so you too lack that right, in practice
[05:09]	schestowitz[TR2]	<lxo> IIUC, the threat model is that Let's Encrypt would be asked/ordered to pull the plug on certain undesirable web sites, and they'd have to fall back to self-signed certificates
[05:09]	IsambardPrince	Then they blamed a filter that detected the word porn.
[05:09]	schestowitz[TR2]	which browsers block
[05:09]	schestowitz[TR2]	the chrom* ones do
[05:09]	schestowitz[TR2]	firefox shouts at you
[05:10]	IsambardPrince	You can use other browsers than Chrome in Chrome OS.
[05:10]	schestowitz[TR2]	later versions will just block
[05:10]	IsambardPrince	You can use almost anything that runs on Debian.
[05:10]	schestowitz[TR2]	and maybe at some point block http as a whole
[05:10]	IsambardPrince	Including Windows programs in Wine.
[05:10]	schestowitz[TR2]	like it did gopher
[05:10]	schestowitz[TR2]	by lying about "security"
[05:10]	schestowitz[TR2]	as if the gopher code was that big
[05:10]	schestowitz[TR2]	unlike mountains of www code with JS, WASM etc.
[05:10]	IsambardPrince	The Gopher code was like a couple hundred lines.
[05:11]	IsambardPrince	It couldn't be blamed for some attack surface that never ended and was impossible to audit.
[05:11]	lxo	*nod*.  so the fallback position is what you're arguing for, despite its not guarding against MitM
[05:11]	IsambardPrince	Like the rest of the browser.
[05:11]	schestowitz[TR2]	lxo: CAs helpagainst mitm
[05:11]	schestowitz[TR2]	but that's about it
[05:11]	schestowitz[TR2]	they are not privacy
[05:11]	schestowitz[TR2]	and not secuurity
[05:11]	lxo	exactly.  and that's all let's encrypt does
[05:11]	schestowitz[TR2]	they are not even authenticity
[05:12]	IsambardPrince	If you can't audit 239 lines of code, you shouldn't be in charge of writing a program that has over 10 million, including running webassemblies and javascript.
[05:12]	schestowitz[TR2]	and they could use TOFU
[05:12]	schestowitz[TR2]	truuuust on first access/use
[05:12]	lxo	sure
[05:12]	IsambardPrince	I use Epiphany a lot on Chrome OS.
[05:12]	schestowitz[TR2]	people can self-sign, but
[05:12]	lxo	then the certificate expires and gets replaced, then what?
[05:12]	schestowitz[TR2]	the browsers won
[05:13]	schestowitz[TR2]	't allow it
[05:13]	schestowitz[TR2]	the GAFAM agenda is,
[05:13]	schestowitz[TR2]	"we are in charge"
[05:13]	schestowitz[TR2]	if not, scream at the user
[05:13]	schestowitz[TR2]	make everyone use https
[05:13]	schestowitz[TR2]	then kill off http
[05:13]	schestowitz[TR2]	because nobody uses it
[05:13]	schestowitz[TR2]	because we shouted a lot
[05:13]	lxo	*nod*
[05:13]	schestowitz[TR2]	and blocked access
[05:14]	schestowitz[TR2]	like making "secure" bootttt impossible to turn off
[05:14]	IsambardPrince	schestowitz[TR2], North Korea is using Let's Encrypt.
[05:14]	schestowitz[TR2]	because, hey, SECURITY!
[05:14]	IsambardPrince	On their sites in English about the glories of Communism.
[05:14]	schestowitz[TR2]	apple calls it "sideloading"
[05:14]	IsambardPrince	Wonder how long they'll get away with that.
[05:14]	lxo	promoting other means for site certification seems like a good idea
[05:14]	schestowitz[TR2]	it exists
[05:14]	schestowitz[TR2]	see gemini
[05:14]	schestowitz[TR2]	TOFU is one
[05:14]	IsambardPrince	schestowitz[TR2], I had to basically explain what Communism was today.
[05:14]	schestowitz[TR2]	nooot centralised
[05:15]	IsambardPrince	He said "That sounds like Walmart."
[05:15]	IsambardPrince	When I said "Basically, there's no incentive to do a good job or be smarter than others, because it doesn't mean you'll get ahead or be paid more."
[05:15]	IsambardPrince	:)
[05:15]	lxo	self-signing by itself is not a solution against MitM.  TOFU may help, but there must be paths to refresh certificates
[05:15]	IsambardPrince	So that went well.
[05:15]	schestowitz[TR2]	https://community.letsencrypt.org/t/certificates-ban-for-russian-government-websites-following-the-war-in-ukraine/173643
[05:15]	TR Bot	 Certificates ban for Russian government websites following the WAR in Ukraine - Issuance Policy - Let's Encrypt Community Support
[05:15]	schestowitz[TR2]	russia is just a very small country anyway
[05:16]	schestowitz[TR2]	nobody would notice
[05:16]	schestowitz[TR2]	<lxo> self-signing by itself is not a solution against MitM.  TOFU may help, but there must be paths to refresh certificates
[05:16]	schestowitz[TR2]	you announce
[05:16]	schestowitz[TR2]	with existing cerf
[05:16]	lxo	but the way you single out let's encrypt could be easy to mistake as leading people to other CAs
[05:16]	schestowitz[TR2]	cert
[05:16]	IsambardPrince	It does sound like Walmart I guess.
[05:17]	schestowitz[TR2]	"i am going to change next week"
[05:17]	IsambardPrince	Everything is ran by the worst people.
[05:17]	schestowitz[TR2]	same with pgp keys
[05:17]	schestowitz[TR2]	you can say upfrrront what the next one will be
[05:17]	IsambardPrince	If you work hard, and play by the rules, all they give you is more work or less hours.
[05:17]	IsambardPrince	Or both.
[05:17]	lxo	schestowitz[TR2], announce how?  how often does it require people to visit the web site for that to work?
[05:17]	schestowitz[TR2]	in case someone doubts it's not an imposter hijacking a domain
[05:17]	schestowitz[TR2]	letting the CAs manage everything is giving a lottt of power to few dodgy people
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[05:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	lxo: better this way
[05:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	than "MINISTER OF TRUSTED SITES"
[05:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	i don't trust them to manage it after 2020
[05:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	in the UK and elsewhere
[05:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	they blocked anything that didn't follow some narrative
[05:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	in the name of "saving lives"
[05:19]	schestowitz[TR2]	even if those sites actually saved lives
[05:19]	schestowitz[TR2]	from some monopolists
[05:19]	schestowitz[TR2]	2020 http://techrights.org/o/2020/03/04/lets-ask-lets-encrypt/
[05:19]	TR Bot	 Techrights Urges Readers to Ask the Linux Foundation's Let's Encrypt (Backed by Companies That Give the NSA Back Doors) Some Hard But Legitimate Questions
[05:20]	schestowitz[TR2]	http://techrights.org/o/2020/03/04/lf-ca-crisis/
[05:20]	TR Bot	 Linux Foundation Issued Millions of Faulty Certificates and Linux Foundation CMO Who Worked for James Clapper Has Left
[05:20]	IsambardPrince	The Ministry of Truth.
[05:20]	schestowitz[TR2]	https://threatpost.com/lets-encrypt-revoke-millions-tls-certs/153413/
[05:20]	TR Bot	Encrypt to Revoke Millions of TLS Certs | Threatpost
[05:23]	lxo	schestowitz[TR2], I agree that centralized power is not welcome.  but I also went through key verification with non-IT relatives and realized how hard it is to convey the trust model and the security primitives and how it's all bound together in a way that is useful
[05:24]	lxo	and when people don't understand how these things fit together, you get an illusion of security or privacy, that is worse than knowing you don't have them
[05:26]	lxo	of all CAs, Let's Encrypt is the most benign.  it only asserts "this certificate is issued to the operator of this domain", so one can be reasonably assured there's no MitM in all accesses, and if it turns bad, we can go back to http or self-signed https certificates
[05:27]	schestowitz[TR2]	<lxo> schestowitz[TR2], I agree that centralized power is not welcome
[05:27]	schestowitz[TR2]	some sites do not need it
[05:27]	schestowitz[TR2]	there was this boy called roy in the mid 1990s
[05:27]	schestowitz[TR2]	he didn't have "social media"
[05:27]	schestowitz[TR2]	or   "account"
[05:27]	schestowitz[TR2]	he just browsed the web
[05:27]	schestowitz[TR2]	yyou did too, I'm sure
[05:28]	schestowitz[TR2]	and i thought https was for banking in the late 90s
[05:28]	schestowitz[TR2]	or for online shopping
[05:28]	schestowitz[TR2]	with credit cards
[05:28]	schestowitz[TR2]	and importance it goes to the right place
[05:28]	schestowitz[TR2]	the web is still mostly the same
[05:28]	schestowitz[TR2]	except when made a 'webapp'
[05:28]	lxo	was that before ISPs started monitoring, blocking and hijacking connections for fun and profit?
[05:28]	schestowitz[TR2]	people can access TR without ssl
[05:28]	schestowitz[TR2]	and read article
[05:28]	schestowitz[TR2]	no tls
[05:28]	schestowitz[TR2]	except over gemini://
[05:29]	schestowitz[TR2]	and it generally works
[05:29]	IsambardPrince	Credit card transactions are pretty safe anyway.
[05:29]	schestowitz[TR2]	the way gafam envisions things
[05:29]	IsambardPrince	You get fraud protection.
[05:29]	schestowitz[TR2]	no https means OMG!!! dagerous!
[05:29]	lxo	*nod*
[05:29]	IsambardPrince	They can't hold someone stealing your card and shopping with it against you and demand that you pay it.
[05:29]	schestowitz[TR2]	even if you just visit   "joe's alien site" or something
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[05:29]	schestowitz[TR2]	maybe joe does not know how to use certbot
[05:29]	schestowitz[TR2]	should we block joe
[05:29]	schestowitz[TR2]	and kill off his alien BS site?
[05:30]	lxo	and, TBH, for most people, that "dangerous!" thinking is probably right.  I mean, if you're counting on https for privacy, getting MitM'ed can be damaging
[05:30]	schestowitz[TR2]	maybe joe should just use blogspot
[05:30]	schestowitz[TR2]	or facebook
[05:30]	IsambardPrince	Debit cards have fraud protection, but they can wipe out all the money in your account and make you wait days or weeks to get it back.
[05:30]	IsambardPrince	Meanwhile you can't pay any of your bills.
[05:30]	schestowitz[TR2]	then let zuckerface manage who can talk
[05:31]	schestowitz[TR2]	or who can talk but never be seen
[05:31]	IsambardPrince	The only place to use a debit card is at the ATM.
[05:31]	schestowitz[TR2]	shadowbanned basically
[05:31]	schestowitz[TR2]	https://techrights.org/n/2024/09/03/Mark_Zuckerface_Yes_Facebook_Censors_You_It_s_Just_Social_Contr.shtml
[05:31]	TR Bot	 Techrights Mark Zuckerface: Yes, Facebook Censors You, It's Just Social Control, Not Media
[05:31]	schestowitz[TR2]	<lxo> and, TBH, for most people, that "dangerous!" thinking is probably right.  I mean, if you're counting on https for privacy, getting MitM'ed can be damaging
[05:31]	IsambardPrince	Dave Ramsey says that who cares if the hotel or gas station puts a hold on your debit card.
[05:31]	schestowitz[TR2]	where it matters they do ot rely on CAs
[05:31]	IsambardPrince	Well, he has millions of dollars.
[05:31]	schestowitz[TR2]	did you pay online?
[05:31]	schestowitz[TR2]	did they phone yyyou
[05:31]	IsambardPrince	It's different when you don't.
[05:31]	schestowitz[TR2]	with some code?
[05:32]	schestowitz[TR2]	or asked you to enter PIN
[05:32]	schestowitz[TR2]	on a physical device?
[05:32]	schestowitz[TR2]	if so, it would not matter much if you got mitm
[05:32]	schestowitz[TR2]	they obv. don't think much or enough of the padlock on your browser
[05:32]	IsambardPrince	Some gas stations assume that you might be filling up a gigantic pickup truck that's nearly out of gas and preauthorize $175.
[05:32]	schestowitz[TR2]	they want a lot more
[05:32]	IsambardPrince	Even if your car is only going to take $30.
[05:32]	schestowitz[TR2]	and they worry more about phishing
[05:32]	schestowitz[TR2]	which LE won't solve
[05:33]	lxo	you seem to be focusing only on payment security.  I'm speaking of privacy, such as someone else's knowing you've accessed a certain website
[05:33]	schestowitz[TR2]	any fake site can get a cert
[05:33]	IsambardPrince	Pickup trucks tend to have gigantic gas guzzling engines.
[05:33]	schestowitz[TR2]	i can buy paypal.38575tg.tr
[05:33]	IsambardPrince	To give you range, the manufacturer puts a big gas tank on them.
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[05:33]	schestowitz[TR2]	and get a LE cert for it
[05:33]	IsambardPrince	That makes them really expensive to fill up.
[05:33]	schestowitz[TR2]	it would not cost me a penny
[05:33]	schestowitz[TR2]	then harvest login   credential
[05:33]	schestowitz[TR2]	and nothing would stop that
[05:34]	schestowitz[TR2]	until some trusred phone number is used
[05:34]	IsambardPrince	I'm lucky if I average 17.2 mpg in the city.
[05:34]	schestowitz[TR2]	or buzzwords like MFA
[05:34]	IsambardPrince	That's under ideal conditions. Tires fully inflated, clean air filter, new spark plugs, clean throttle body.
[05:34]	schestowitz[TR2]	<lxo> you seem to be focusing only on payment security.  I'm speaking of privacy, such as someone else's knowing you've accessed a certain website
[05:34]	schestowitz[TR2]	take brazil
[05:34]	schestowitz[TR2]	because we mentioned it many times lately
[05:34]	schestowitz[TR2]	the supreme court bans a site
[05:34]	schestowitz[TR2]	for some crime
[05:34]	schestowitz[TR2]	let's say someone still accesses it
[05:35]	schestowitz[TR2]	somehow
[05:35]	IsambardPrince	Mom jsut lets her car turn into a giant shitbox.
[05:35]	schestowitz[TR2]	if it's not financial fraufd
[05:35]	schestowitz[TR2]	then whatr's the risk?
[05:35]	IsambardPrince	Wonders why she gets 12 miles a gallon in it and blows tires all the time.
[05:35]	schestowitz[TR2]	that they will be exposed to "bad influence"?
[05:35]	IsambardPrince	She's far too dumb to have lived this long.
[05:35]	IsambardPrince	But she has.
[05:35]	schestowitz[TR2]	the banking example was always best
[05:35]	schestowitz[TR2]	for importance of
[05:35]	schestowitz[TR2]	1) encryption
[05:35]	schestowitz[TR2]	2) authenticity
[05:35]	IsambardPrince	She's an example of what Dave Ramsey said is wrong with America.
[05:35]	schestowitz[TR2]	re (2)
[05:35]	schestowitz[TR2]	you can still phish
[05:35]	schestowitz[TR2]	set up new site
[05:36]	IsambardPrince	It's the only country where you can fuck up this badly with money and even live to tell about it.
[05:36]	schestowitz[TR2]	make it seem legit
[05:36]	lxo	ISP's MitM connections to the banned site to log and report attempted accesses
[05:36]	schestowitz[TR2]	like, gett a free cert forrr it
[05:36]	schestowitz[TR2]	there, padlock!!
[05:36]	schestowitz[TR2]	TRUSTED
[05:36]	IsambardPrince	She gets in the car and goes clear across town on flat tires gettin 12 mpg, to get one thing at the store.
[05:37]	schestowitz[TR2]	lxo: like in central asia
[05:37]	schestowitz[TR2]	but it's done in europe and us also
[05:37]	IsambardPrince	schestowitz[TR2], Mom discovered Walmart+.
[05:37]	schestowitz[TR2]	they just don't report it
[05:37]	schestowitz[TR2]	"it's good when we do it"
[05:37]	IsambardPrince	Now she has "Jose" bring her bottled water.
[05:37]	schestowitz[TR2]	"safety"
[05:37]	schestowitz[TR2]	authcracy when "they" do it
[05:37]	lxo	getting people to access an alternate site is part of various kinds of attacks.  not the ones I'm concerned with
[05:37]	schestowitz[TR2]	same for irc
[05:37]	schestowitz[TR2]	we discussed it before
[05:37]	schestowitz[TR2]	they could set up   fake TR IRC
[05:38]	lxo	(for the purposes of this conversation)
[05:38]	schestowitz[TR2]	in another ip address
[05:38]	schestowitz[TR2]	using rogue dns table
[05:38]	schestowitz[TR2]	and then they need to
[05:38]	schestowitz[TR2]	1) fake many username
[05:38]	schestowitz[TR2]	2) fake activity
[05:38]	schestowitz[TR2]	3)   respond to the user
[05:38]	schestowitz[TR2]	who has the resourcess
[05:38]	schestowitz[TR2]	to make a shadow irc network for freenode
[05:38]	schestowitz[TR2]	with 5000+ users
[05:39]	IsambardPrince	A nutcase.
[05:39]	IsambardPrince	With nothing but time.
[05:39]	schestowitz[TR2]	hey, don'tmake fun
[05:39]	schestowitz[TR2]	some people need water
[05:39]	schestowitz[TR2]	and kettle
[05:40]	lxo	they'd have to get people to connect to the alt address
[05:40]	lxo	if they can poison global dns, they could fool even LE
[05:41]	schestowitz[TR2]	btw, some irc clients alreay outright reject access
[05:41]	IsambardPrince	https://finance.yahoo.com/news/financial-guru-dave-ramsey-advises-173740966.html
[05:41]	TR Bot	 Financial Guru Dave Ramsey Advises: Take Social Security at 62, But This Essential Step Is Non-Negotiable For Each Payment
[05:41]	schestowitz[TR2]	if you did NOT oursource the cert
[05:41]	schestowitz[TR2]	that is ... insane
[05:41]	IsambardPrince	Most people can't do this because almost nobody actually sees 11% CAGR in a 401(k).
[05:42]	IsambardPrince	And some people, like the ones that got RiversEdge, find that there was a guy in there stealing from them and there's no money.
[05:42]	IsambardPrince	Just numbers on a website, and statements.
[05:42]	schestowitz[TR2]	like chitcoin sites
[05:42]	schestowitz[TR2]	i knew some
[05:42]	schestowitz[TR2]	a fffriend had "money"
[05:42]	schestowitz[TR2]	in a "site"
[05:42]	schestowitz[TR2]	i was like, "what??"
[05:42]	lxo	IMHO, rejecting unsafe access is not a problem; lacking means to override that rejection is
[05:43]	schestowitz[TR2]	then he realised he could not get this "money" out
[05:43]	schestowitz[TR2]	and they asked him to put more RealMoney in
[05:43]	IsambardPrince	Social Security needs to be fixed. It is often the only retirement income people have.
[05:43]	schestowitz[TR2]	to get the other money "out"
[05:43]	schestowitz[TR2]	like a classic nigerian scam
[05:43]	IsambardPrince	Low income workers don't have much to save, even if their employer doubles it up to 12%.
[05:43]	schestowitz[TR2]	"pay me more to get your other money back"
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[05:44]	IsambardPrince	At 12%, and typical growth of 7-8% CAGR, you MAY get a million dollars in there, while the government is busy inflating it back down to $200,000.
[05:44]	schestowitz[TR2]	lxo: too late in some cases
[05:44]	IsambardPrince	If you save for an entire lifetime.
[05:44]	schestowitz[TR2]	afaik, all gemini clients must accept tofu
[05:44]	schestowitz[TR2]	and i tried about 10 clients
[05:44]	schestowitz[TR2]	all of them allowed it
[05:44]	schestowitz[TR2]	some had bugs in cert management
[05:44]	schestowitz[TR2]	like "Moonlander"
[05:44]	schestowitz[TR2]	a beta gtk client
[05:45]	lxo	schestowitz[TR2], I don't understand.  what's "too late"?
[05:45]	IsambardPrince	That doesn't mean you should save nothing in a 401(k). It'll be a whole lot worse with nothing.
[05:45]	schestowitz[TR2]	IsambardPrince says some irc clients already outright fail at self-signed
[05:45]	IsambardPrince	But don't expect it to be worth much.
[05:45]	schestowitz[TR2]	and the gnome browser does the same with Web   sites
[05:45]	schestowitz[TR2]	so gnome became more GAFAM than Google
[05:45]	schestowitz[TR2]	<lxo> schestowitz[TR2], I don't understand.  what's "too late"?
[05:45]	schestowitz[TR2]	like RMS
[05:45]	schestowitz[TR2]	"IT's TOO LATE!!"
[05:46]	schestowitz[TR2]	because
[05:46]	IsambardPrince	Ramsey assumes he's talking to people who make six or seven figures a year and are in debt anyway because they're fucking stupid.
[05:46]	IsambardPrince	And most of the time, that's who calls in.
[05:46]	schestowitz[TR2]	if TR adopts self-signed again
[05:46]	lxo	I recall when FF (or whatever derivative I used at the time) would complain about expired certificates, link to documentation and offer to temporarily accept the certificate.  I haven't seen one of those error pages for a while, I wonder if it still there, but I don't see how "too late" relates with that
[05:46]	schestowitz[TR2]	for https
[05:46]	schestowitz[TR2]	like it did before
[05:46]	schestowitz[TR2]	some users of some browsers won't be able to acccess
[05:46]	schestowitz[TR2]	until they use http only
[05:46]	IsambardPrince	Generally the more fucking stupid and ridiculous people tend to be the highest paid.
[05:47]	IsambardPrince	It goes along with Bullshit Jobs.
[05:47]	IsambardPrince	The least essential get paid more.
[05:47]	schestowitz[TR2]	<lxo> I recall when FF (or whatever derivative I used at the time) would complain about expired certificates, link to documentation and offer to temporarily accept the certificate.  I haven't seen one of those error pages for a while, I wonder if it still there, but I don't see how "too late" relates with that
[05:47]	schestowitz[TR2]	FF is about 2% now
[05:47]	IsambardPrince	That's why there's so many of these calling Ramsey and so few people that are wage earners.
[05:47]	schestowitz[TR2]	the chrom* based ones even leap past this warning
[05:47]	lxo	ah.  that sounds like those lost battle fallacies that often come up.  it's hardly ever too late to make things better.  but it can be harder than it was before.
[05:47]	IsambardPrince	The wage earners are usually smarter, and more practical, but it's not helping them make more money.
[05:47]	schestowitz[TR2]	and say, FU, "get me out of here"
[05:47]	schestowitz[TR2]	or something went wrong
[05:47]	schestowitz[TR2]	by whivch they mean
[05:47]	schestowitz[TR2]	the site made its cert
[05:48]	schestowitz[TR2]	instead of getting cheap/free one
[05:48]	schestowitz[TR2]	from a third party
[05:48]	IsambardPrince	schestowitz[TR2], Most of these tech startups.
[05:48]	schestowitz[TR2]	so t hat's "wrong"
[05:48]	IsambardPrince	You wouldn't notice if the people working there fell off the planet.
[05:48]	schestowitz[TR2]	and you must run away, FAST
[05:48]	IsambardPrince	Except less of their paycheck money would be flowing through the system.
[05:48]	IsambardPrince	But they don't actually add anything of value.
[05:49]		*schestowitz[TR2] working on Terms of Service (TOS) Under Scrutiny - Part XIII - RealVNC and What It Does in Practice
[05:49]	IsambardPrince	We've had 20 more years of the tech industry since 2004 and we're not getting a lot for the money.
[05:50]	IsambardPrince	Computers that slow down the more they speed up and do pretty much the same tasks.
[05:50]	lxo	so LE, by offering means to operate in this hostile environment, makes people who understand the problem less prone to fight it, is that what you're implying?  like, soldiers will fight harder if we burn our own ships so that there's no way to escape in case things go bad?
[05:51]	IsambardPrince	https://finance.yahoo.com/m/495bb5d5-b4e4-3bfb-a7cc-e80b1742381d/dollar-tree-slashes-full-year.html
[05:51]	TR Bot	 Dollar Tree Slashes Full-Year Profit Target As Economic Pressure Hits Customers
[05:51]	IsambardPrince	schestowitz[TR2], People are too poor to shop at the cheap dollar store.
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[05:52]	schestowitz[TR2]	lxo: no
[05:52]	schestowitz[TR2]	i will rewword thaat
[05:52]	lxo	I mean, key distribution is one of the hardest problems in security, and this is it.  and getting laypeople to reason about security logic without getting a PhD on security seems to pose some challenges, but it does offer a reasonably simple and sensible (if problematic because of centralization and exploitation) attestation procedure
[05:53]	schestowitz[TR2]	iit can   be done
[05:53]	schestowitz[TR2]	but not THIS way
[05:53]	schestowitz[TR2]	http://techrights.org/o/2021/03/11/fake-security-brought-by-lf/
[05:53]	TR Bot	 Fake Security From Linux Foundation and the Monopolies It's Fronting for
[05:53]	schestowitz[TR2]	this is IBM and Google
[05:53]	schestowitz[TR2]	doing an Apple
[05:53]	schestowitz[TR2]	the "sideloading" way
[05:53]	schestowitz[TR2]	and Google already does this with Android
[05:54]	IsambardPrince	Intel stock is now down nearly 2/3rds from the start of the year.
[05:54]	schestowitz[TR2]	http://techrights.org/n/2023/10/19/Google_Becoming_More_Like_Apple_User_Hostile_Lock_Down_Users_So.shtml
[05:54]	TR Bot	 Techrights Google Becoming More Like Apple (User-Hostile Lock-Down, Users' Software of Choice Maligned as 'Sideloading'), Not the Other Way Around
[05:54]	schestowitz[TR2]	IsambardPrince: so dow jones should boot it
[05:54]	schestowitz[TR2]	to pretend the economy is fine
[05:54]	schestowitz[TR2]	intel ruins the narrative
[05:54]	schestowitz[TR2]	bye, intc
[05:54]	schestowitz[TR2]	you help trump
[05:55]	schestowitz[TR2]	so we cannot have you here
[05:55]	schestowitz[TR2]	same for s%p
[05:55]	schestowitz[TR2]	which is a lot of ponzi scheme companies
[05:55]	schestowitz[TR2]	that are more in debt
[05:55]	schestowitz[TR2]	than the money they have
[05:55]	schestowitz[TR2]	and claim they are worth many billions or trillions
[05:55]	schestowitz[TR2]	based on some alleged future "poteeential"
[05:55]	schestowitz[TR2]	for "growth"
[05:55]	schestowitz[TR2]	same as credit card companioes
[05:56]	schestowitz[TR2]	assume each person is just temporarily not a millionaire
[05:56]	schestowitz[TR2]	and givinggg more "credit"
[05:56]	schestowitz[TR2]	with nothing to back it
[05:56]	schestowitz[TR2]	just so that they can meet "targets"
[05:56]	schestowitz[TR2]	and give bonuses to the people who run them
[05:56]	schestowitz[TR2]	worry later
[05:56]	IsambardPrince	I wonder if buying Intel at this point would be good. As speculative.
[05:56]	schestowitz[TR2]	why not a penny stock?
[05:56]	schestowitz[TR2]	it too can make a turnaround
[05:56]	schestowitz[TR2]	can
[05:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	https://techrights.org/n/2024/03/05/Jim_Zemlin_Whose_Wife_is_Said_to_Have_Committed_Securities_Frau.shtml
[05:58]	TR Bot	 Techrights Jim Zemlin, Whose Wife is Said to Have Committed Securities Fraud at Bakkt, Weds Gates Foundation With Linux Foundation to Combat Fraud?
[05:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	buy bakkt
[05:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	while it is "cheap"
[05:59]	IsambardPrince	https://corporate.walmart.com/news/2024/08/22/walmart-plus-launches-first-ever-dining-benefit-with-burger-king
[05:59]	TR Bot	 Walmart+ Launches First-Ever Dining Benefit With Burger King
[05:59]	IsambardPrince	"Starting today, Walmart+ members will enjoy 25% off1 any Burger King digital order every day. Starting in September, members can receive a free flame-grilled Whopper every three months with any purchase2.
[05:59]	IsambardPrince	This unique benefit is designed to save members time and money, catering to their fast-paced lifestyles where grocery shopping, meal planning and cooking may not always be feasible."
[05:59]	IsambardPrince	LOL
[05:59]	lxo	anyhow...  schestowitz[TR2], unless I misunderstood something, the problem you're getting at is not LE, but the entire CA framework.  that's not at all clear from your many posts calling out LE exclusively
● Sep 05
[06:00]	schestowitz[TR2]	right
[06:00]	lxo	which seems likely to be misunderstood and thus to backfire
[06:00]	schestowitz[TR2]	no, i made it clear earlier
[06:00]	lxo	IMHO
[06:00]	schestowitz[TR2]	but LE is the "big fish"
[06:00]	schestowitz[TR2]	proprietary OS is bad
[06:00]	schestowitz[TR2]	but we focus on Windows
[06:01]	schestowitz[TR2]	proprietay bad
[06:01]	schestowitz[TR2]	because:
[06:01]	schestowitz[TR2]	[reasons]
[06:01]	lxo	have I told you about Windows XI?
[06:01]	schestowitz[TR2]	windows used a lot
[06:01]	schestowitz[TR2]	bad because
[06:01]	schestowitz[TR2]	[more specific examples from windows[]
[06:01]	schestowitz[TR2]	putting aside microsoft as a super-hostile company
[06:01]	schestowitz[TR2]	otherwise people turn to Apple
[06:01]	schestowitz[TR2]	thinking the issue is just the brand
[06:02]	lxo	"xi" in portuguese is an expletive that means sort of "oh sh*t!".  sounds fitting
[06:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	they called their phones lumia
[06:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	which iirc in spanish means prostitute or wh*re
[06:02]	IsambardPrince	People gambling online with credit card debt sounds pretty sick.
[06:03]	lxo	but yeah, it's the same problem, and indeed lots of misguided people have been misled into apple, or even into google's trap, out of calling out MS Windows only
[06:03]	IsambardPrince	They'll probably try to file bankruptcy later and have the banks show up and go "Gambling $100,000? Really!?"
[06:03]		liberty_box libertybox2_ libertybox2__ libertybox2___ libredev lightbringer logbackup lxo 
[06:03]	schestowitz[TR2]	lxo: it goes like this
[06:03]	schestowitz[TR2]	(ime)
[06:03]	schestowitz[TR2]	computers are...
[06:04]	schestowitz[TR2]	OSes are..
[06:04]	schestowitz[TR2]	software is...
[06:04]	schestowitz[TR2]	and then with the promises aside
[06:04]	schestowitz[TR2]	"clown", "app"
[06:04]	schestowitz[TR2]	you can dealm with the basics
[06:04]	schestowitz[TR2]	questions like, what does this "phone" do for you?
[06:04]	schestowitz[TR2]	"you can wear a wristwatch for that"
[06:05]	schestowitz[TR2]	"can you not do that when you get back home and have a keyboard?"
[06:05]	schestowitz[TR2]	"what would happen if you did not seee this until an hour later?"
[06:13]	eidolon	"No one _needs_ a computer in their pocket millions of times more powerful than the guidance computers that took us to the moon, just to go down to the corner store!"
[06:14]	schestowitz[TR2]	but "the likes"
[06:16]	TR News	Techrights Terms of Service (TOS) Under Scrutiny - Part XIII - RealVNC and What It Does in Practice https://techrights.org/n/2024/09/05/Terms_of_Service_TOS_Under_Scrutiny_Part_XIII_RealVNC_and_What_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/09/05/Terms_of_Service_TOS_Under_Scrutiny_Part_XIII_RealVNC_and_What_.gmi 
[06:16]	TR Bot	 Techrights Terms of Service (TOS) Under Scrutiny - Part XIII - RealVNC and What It Does in Practice
[06:16]	IsambardPrince	Eh, the employee plus partner rate on dental isn't horrible I guess.
[06:17]	IsambardPrince	Might as well be the plus one before I go get this work done.
[06:20]	IsambardPrince	schestowitz[TR2], I was talking on Reddit to someone who thought they'd get a mortgage right after bankruptcy.
[06:20]	IsambardPrince	I said you have to wait at least 2 years but when the guy at the bank says whoa slow down there hoss, you should probably pay attention.
[06:21]	IsambardPrince	I don't know if the banker said that because it would be such a horrible rate that it wouldn't be workable for the bank, or because he honestly would feel bad at night for doing that to someone.
[06:21]	IsambardPrince	But when even the banker says don't do it...
[06:23]	IsambardPrince	schestowitz[TR2], I wonder when Mark and MARISOL will file Chapter 13.
[06:23]	IsambardPrince	I'm surprised it hasn't already happened just because she can always outspend what they make.
[06:24]	IsambardPrince	I thought it was the law that Chapter 13 couldn't be reported for more than 7 years, but then I found out it's just something the credit bureaus do to incentivize not filing Chapter 7 and leaving the banks with nothing.
[06:39]	IsambardPrince	https://www.yahoo.com/news/chase-warns-against-using-system-201331004.html
[06:39]	TR Bot	 Chase warns against using system glitch to filch cash: its fraud, plain and simple
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[06:46]	eidolon	Next up: the swallow balloons full of cocaine and hop on a plane challenge.
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[07:26]	TR News	"Since the Fedora vision state that inclusivity is one of the goal, I think it should be reflected in our practice and policy and not just be a warm fuzzy feeling." https://pagure.io/Fedora-Council/tickets/issue/502
[07:26]	TR Bot	#502: DEI policy for Event location - tickets - Pagure.io
[07:27]	TR News	Red Hat (and Fedora) is based in a country where homophobia is not only rampant; it's legal to discriminate against people for gayness in some ways in some states
[07:27]	TR News	Worse yet, it asserts that men who impregnate women in an unplanned fashion (not same as rape) can force those women to bear a child
[07:28]	TR News	But of course this is fully compliant with Diversity(TM) as defined by corporations incorporated in the United of States of America, Inc.
[07:28]	TR News	Will Fedora also host events in USA, Inc. even Orange Anus gets elected and enacts the 2025 Taliban(R) Plan?
[07:29]	TR News	Of course! Anything else goes against "free speech" and constitutes "anti-Americanism"
[07:30]	TR News	DEI at Fedora is 99% cynicism, 1% good intentions, or 250,000 IBM staff and 2,500 "useful idiots" of IBM
[07:31]	TR News	"So one criteria could be "not having a law preventing from doing a DEI meeting" (on the basis that a DEI meeting would also be speaking of Fedora Pride)." Fedora Pride, that's right, because we really need to actively mix GNU/Linux with gayness, like Madame Thunberg is conflating environmentalism with support for Hamas terror
[07:31]	TR News	Pride is OK. Pride is good. But keep that separate from things it has nothing to do with.
[07:32]	TR News	If Fedora is Pride and Dems and pro-abortion and [add here], how many potential Fedora users do you needlessly put off, based on nothing technical whatsoever, just because you wish to instrumentalise the distro to advance your own political ideology?
[07:33]	eidolon	I like to know which projects are headed by brain-broken lunatics.
[07:34]	TR News	It's OK for leftists to openly say that for a distro to mandate leftist ideology isn't necessary because political activism does not blend well with software development, packaging, licencing, and distribution. For you risk ending up with lunatics who preach "Ethical Source", meaning "YOU CANNOT USE MY SOFTWARE IF I DO NOT LIKE YOU!!"
[07:34]	eidolon	Let them be forthright.
[07:34]	schestowitz[TR2]	eidolon: no, they get taken over
[07:34]	schestowitz[TR2]	i saw it before
[07:34]	schestowitz[TR2]	like Nix and NixOS
[07:34]	eidolon	They sure do.
[07:34]	IsambardPrince	https://x.com/Osint613/status/1830212715379327386
[07:34]	schestowitz[TR2]	they start calling everyone nazi
[07:34]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-x.com
[07:35]	IsambardPrince	lol
[07:35]	schestowitz[TR2]	in ladybird they start pushing pronoun policing
[07:35]	schestowitz[TR2]	and if you say, "no, stop!"
[07:35]	schestowitz[TR2]	then they call you a nazi
[07:35]	schestowitz[TR2]	hyperland was ccolded for saying "no" to pronouns in usernames
[07:35]	schestowitz[TR2]	because it didn't want this politics
[07:35]	schestowitz[TR2]	we too had this crowd had a go at us
[07:35]	schestowitz[TR2]	wasting time
[07:36]	schestowitz[TR2]	*have a go
[07:36]	schestowitz[TR2]	they are not interested in tech
[07:37]	schestowitz[TR2]	IsambardPrince: boats in social control media
[07:37]	schestowitz[TR2]	great idea
[07:37]	schestowitz[TR2]	facepalm indeed
[07:38]	IsambardPrince	https://x.com/ionfeellnun
[07:38]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-x.com
[07:38]	IsambardPrince	https://x.com/ionfeellnun/status/1675825976662523905/photo/1
[07:38]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-x.com
[07:39]	schestowitz[TR2]	"Finally, people suggested to pay more attention to the venue itself for accessibility, safety, etc among others. Again, this is a valid concern, but would requires a different approach. Unlike laws, this can't be verified remotely and easily (cause plenty of country have laws equivalent to the American Disability Act, and from what I know, that's not sufficient in practice). "
[07:39]	schestowitz[TR2]	accessibiliy is another matter
[07:39]	schestowitz[TR2]	it's not a matter of politics
[07:39]	schestowitz[TR2]	people don't lose an arm due to being "republican"
[07:39]	schestowitz[TR2]	or because of their religion
[07:39]	schestowitz[TR2]	i see fedora decoupled those issues
[07:39]	schestowitz[TR2]	accessibility
[07:39]	schestowitz[TR2]	and diversity
[07:39]	schestowitz[TR2]	they are not the samme
[07:40]	schestowitz[TR2]	people who lack an arm are different
[07:40]	schestowitz[TR2]	but not for the same reasons
[07:40]	schestowitz[TR2]	and they need another distro
[07:40]	schestowitz[TR2]	with other tools
[07:40]	schestowitz[TR2]	i never heard of someone needing a screen reader "because I am gay"
[07:43]	IsambardPrince	"At any rate, the situation was real enough for the banks to take action. Chase told CNN that the issue has "been addressed," and its parent company, JPMorgan, is carefully reviewing the situation, CNN sources said, as it tries to determine how many Chase customers and how much money was involved in the viral scheme.
[07:43]	IsambardPrince	Neither Chase nor the Federal Reserve commented on whether regulators would investigate."
[07:45]	IsambardPrince	"You cant spend that money because its not yours," Wang said in an Instagram video. "Just because money appears in your account doesnt mean it's literally yours. And if you spend it and are forced to give it back, you're gonna have to figure out a way to pay it back."
[07:45]	IsambardPrince	Pay it back?
[07:45]	schestowitz[TR2]	they could say it was an innocent mistake
[07:45]	IsambardPrince	How? These people have been clearly racking up felonies since they were 18 and that's just since they had their juvie records cleared.
[07:45]	schestowitz[TR2]	but not after boarding in social control media
[07:46]	schestowitz[TR2]	this is sort of darwin award
[07:46]	IsambardPrince	How will Chase even get part of this back?
[07:46]	schestowitz[TR2]	bailout nidenm
[07:46]	schestowitz[TR2]	or bailout orange
[07:46]	eidolon	They can work it off in the mines.
[07:48]	schestowitz[TR2]	us still has mines?
[07:48]	IsambardPrince	"Drench
[07:48]	IsambardPrince	@ionfeellnun
[07:48]	IsambardPrince	
[07:48]	IsambardPrince	Aug 24
[07:48]	IsambardPrince	Im a fly ass nigga that dont post shit"
[07:48]	IsambardPrince	How one of them describes himself.
[07:48]	IsambardPrince	Sounds like he probably has a lot of earnings potential to pay the bank restitution. HAHAHA.
[07:48]	schestowitz[TR2]	<IsambardPrince> Im a fly ass nigga that dont post shit"
[07:48]	schestowitz[TR2]	who is that?
[07:48]	schestowitz[TR2]	matt gulag?
[07:48]	IsambardPrince	LMAO
[07:49]	schestowitz[TR2]	i see no f word
[07:49]	schestowitz[TR2]	it's too polite
[07:49]	IsambardPrince	The one that was bragging about having a bag of $100s that said Chase Bank on it.
[07:49]	IsambardPrince	HEHEHE
[07:49]	IsambardPrince	"<eidolon> They can work it off in the mines."
[07:49]	schestowitz[TR2]	depositors
[07:49]	IsambardPrince	If anyone could figure that out it would be the first time they got work out of one since 1865.
[07:49]	IsambardPrince	:)
[07:50]	schestowitz[TR2]	right
[07:50]	schestowitz[TR2]	what i said..
[07:50]	schestowitz[TR2]	.they have some
[07:50]	schestowitz[TR2]	for functional purposes
[07:50]	schestowitz[TR2]	but you don't send felons there
[07:50]	schestowitz[TR2]	or bad things happen
[07:50]	schestowitz[TR2]	logistically an fd socially
[07:50]	schestowitz[TR2]	(and
[07:50]	IsambardPrince	schestowitz[TR2], At my worst I was never 1/10000th as bad as one of these sacks of shit.
[07:50]	IsambardPrince	And they reproduce prolifically.
[07:51]	IsambardPrince	:)
[07:51]	schestowitz[TR2]	the uk wants the homeless homemed (housed)am nd working
[07:51]	schestowitz[TR2]	but it's easy to say
[07:51]	schestowitz[TR2]	not to do
[07:51]	IsambardPrince	Shoot at each other, mostly miss.
[07:51]	schestowitz[TR2]	some have conditions
[07:51]	schestowitz[TR2]	like bipolar syndrome
[07:51]	IsambardPrince	Hit a grandmother coming out of the laundromat.
[07:51]	schestowitz[TR2]	very extreme cases
[07:51]	schestowitz[TR2]	they can go off and harm colleagues
[07:51]	schestowitz[TR2]	so if you try to add them to a workforce you risk the whole company
[07:51]	schestowitz[TR2]	people leave or get harmed
[07:51]	schestowitz[TR2]	a la
[07:51]	IsambardPrince	schestowitz[TR2], I have bipolar disorder.
[07:52]	schestowitz[TR2]	i know!
[07:52]	IsambardPrince	The worst anyone can say about me is I have an incredibly offensive sense of humor.
[07:52]	schestowitz[TR2]	that's why i said extreme
[07:52]	schestowitz[TR2]	https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2023/02/28/microsoft-stabber-joseph-cantrell-boasts-of-nazi-lineage-and-made-disturbing-video-games/
[07:52]	TR Bot	 Microsoft Stabber Joseph Cantrell Boasts of Nazi Lineage and Made Disturbing Video Games. | BaronHK's Rants
[07:52]	schestowitz[TR2]	https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2023/04/16/microsoft-bing-hides-news-regarding-microsoft-stabber-joseph-cantrell/
[07:52]	TR Bot	 Microsoft Bing Hides News Regarding Microsoft Stabber Joseph Cantrell. | BaronHK's Rants
[07:52]	schestowitz[TR2]	i very much doubt you
[07:52]	schestowitz[TR2]	1) wanted to stab a colleague
[07:52]	schestowitz[TR2]	2) tried to stab one
[07:52]	IsambardPrince	schestowitz[TR2], That's why this thing with Chase Bank is so funny.
[07:52]	schestowitz[TR2]	re (1)
[07:52]	schestowitz[TR2]	matt gulag does want to stab some
[07:52]	IsambardPrince	They're in the news but the first one to say they're all black "gets it".
[07:52]	IsambardPrince	:)
[07:52]	schestowitz[TR2]	that's a caution 
[07:52]	schestowitz[TR2]	before you get to (2)
[07:53]	IsambardPrince	You can't say what literally everyone is seeing here.
[07:53]	schestowitz[TR2]	so job searches will bring it up
[07:53]	schestowitz[TR2]	in "do not employ" lists
[07:53]	schestowitz[TR2]	and maybe rightlu so
[07:53]	schestowitz[TR2]	like not "missing our" on "sexual favour"
[07:53]	schestowitz[TR2]	that cost Google 40 million dollars
[07:53]	IsambardPrince	I hate Chase Bank.
[07:53]	schestowitz[TR2]	for just one worker
[07:53]	schestowitz[TR2]	who didn't "miss out"
[07:53]	IsambardPrince	Chase Bank deserves to lose the money.
[07:54]	IsambardPrince	I hope the people who did this are enjoying their hookers and blow.
[07:54]	schestowitz[TR2]	https://www.thecut.com/2018/10/google-paid-off-androids-andy-rubin-after-sexual-assault.html
[07:54]	TR Bot	 Google Paid Off Androids Andy Rubin After Sexual Assault
[07:54]	IsambardPrince	Because the prosecutor will go to work on them.
[07:54]	IsambardPrince	They fucked with a bank.
[07:54]	IsambardPrince	This ends here and now.
[07:54]	schestowitz[TR2]	<IsambardPrince> Chase Bank deserves to lose the money.
[07:54]	schestowitz[TR2]	and then they get bailed out
[07:54]	schestowitz[TR2]	with money you borrow
[07:54]	schestowitz[TR2]	against your will
[07:54]	schestowitz[TR2]	at a naitonal level
[07:54]	schestowitz[TR2]	https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/government-debt
[07:54]	TR Bot	 United States Government Debt
[07:54]	schestowitz[TR2]	big leap there in last month on recprd
[07:55]	IsambardPrince	schestowitz[TR2], The government cares about maybe 1 out of every 27 murders these people commits enough to solve the case.
[07:55]	schestowitz[TR2]	100 billion dollars loan in ONE month
[07:55]	IsambardPrince	But they steal from Chase, they'll be hunted down like animals.
[07:55]	IsambardPrince	Don't be surprised if the feds get called in.
[07:56]	IsambardPrince	FBI, ATF/
[07:56]	IsambardPrince	They'll find the ones that stole from Chase.
[07:56]	IsambardPrince	There's murder and mayhem and they don't care, as long as it's in the ghetto.
[07:56]	eidolon	schestowitz[TR2], yes there are mines in the US.
[07:56]	eidolon	:F
[07:56]	eidolon	Active ones.
[07:56]	IsambardPrince	But they've done fucked themselves this time.
[07:57]	IsambardPrince	They could have stuck to their usual selling drugs to white people and shooting each other.
[07:57]	IsambardPrince	And it would have gone on forever without a police investigation.
[07:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	<IsambardPrince> schestowitz[TR2], The government cares about maybe 1 out of every 27 murders these people commits enough to solve the case.
[07:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	it is very bad if PDs do not even care about murders?
[07:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	unless it's some rich people
[07:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	in the UK murder is treated as must solve
[07:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	because those are not common crimes
[07:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	but that means other "lesser" crimes aren't being treated as important
[07:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	and not much resources/effort put into that
[07:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	clerical/British police [sic]
[07:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	"we opened a case"
[07:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	they open cases
[07:59]	IsambardPrince	schestowitz[TR2], When you subtract all the police shootings from the homicide figures.
[07:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	they acknoledge a crime was    committed
[07:59]	IsambardPrince	All the murder suicides that solve themselves immediately.
[07:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	but they say
[07:59]	IsambardPrince	Stuff like that.
[07:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	if there is imminent danger to life, tell us
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[08:00]	IsambardPrince	CPD solves 4% of all homicides.
[08:00]	schestowitz[TR2]	http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2015/04/14/police-protection/
[08:00]	TR Bot	Blog Archive Why I Believe British Police Serves and Protects Only Itself (and Maybe the Rich/Powerful)
[08:00]	IsambardPrince	schestowitz[TR2], They don't fucking care.
[08:00]	schestowitz[TR2]	so they will help if someone with a machete shows up at your door
[08:00]	schestowitz[TR2]	otherwise, meh... not so much
[08:00]	IsambardPrince	They were whining about not being able to do weed arrests because they used to steal your car and money.
[08:00]	IsambardPrince	And use it to fund the police department.
[08:00]	IsambardPrince	They don't care about murder.
[08:01]	IsambardPrince	The cops used to find someone with weed and go around accusing all the property and money of a crime and taking that.
[08:01]	IsambardPrince	Even if they made no arrest.
[08:01]	IsambardPrince	Then they used it to buy tanks and machine guns and drones and stingrays for the police station.
[08:01]	eidolon	It is funny the comparison here.
[08:01]	IsambardPrince	They were furious about the weed decriminalization.
[08:01]	eidolon	UK vs. Chicago
[08:01]	eidolon	lol
[08:02]	TR News	"Another chill night here in the cozy Pub. I'm sitting at the bar, earbuds in, quietly reflecting, watching intently as our other patrons enjoy their drinks and bask in their own personal thoughts. The pool table beckons, but alas, I didn't bring any change with me. Oh well, another day, perhaps. :-)" gemini://midnight.pub/posts/2139
[08:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	Chicago is a different logistical issue
[08:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	and different culture
[08:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	so hard to compare
[08:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	different r ealities
[08:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	(for now)
[08:02]	eidolon	It is so compared to the greater US.
[08:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	(some parts of the UK became more like chicago)
[08:02]	IsambardPrince	eidolon, Up to a few years ago you were more fucked if they found weed in your car than if you killed someone and at least got away before someone found the body and called the cops.
[08:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	moss  side comes to mind
[08:03]	IsambardPrince	But they still don't work murder cases.
[08:03]	schestowitz[TR2]	esp. in the 90s with the gun  crime
[08:03]	IsambardPrince	The police are not there for you.
[08:03]	IsambardPrince	They're there to disrupt threats to the rich and the State.
[08:03]	schestowitz[TR2]	IsambardPrince: you could buy a home in moss side for 15k dolllars
[08:03]	schestowitz[TR2]	or 10 pounds
[08:03]	IsambardPrince	And steal money from nobodies.
[08:03]	schestowitz[TR2]	nobody would want to buy one for more
[08:03]	schestowitz[TR2]	for some older homes
[08:04]	schestowitz[TR2]	in that area
[08:04]	IsambardPrince	Using asset forfeiture and traffic fines.
[08:04]	schestowitz[TR2]	you cannot just fence yourselve off there
[08:04]	schestowitz[TR2]	it doesn't work
[08:04]	schestowitz[TR2]	you need to exit the door sometimes
[08:04]	schestowitz[TR2]	a friend of mine got mugged there
[08:04]	schestowitz[TR2]	in daylight, iirc
[08:04]	IsambardPrince	That's why everyone should carry a gun.
[08:05]	IsambardPrince	Less than 0.8% of all gun crimes are committed by a FOID Card holder.
[08:05]	IsambardPrince	And since you'll never stop someone the first time, that's pretty good statistics.
[08:05]	IsambardPrince	If you had those statistics and stopped all non-FOID sales and transfers, we'd be safer than Japan.
[08:06]	IsambardPrince	People who can get FOID cards are generally not the problem and are civilized enough that they can generally be trusted.
[08:06]	IsambardPrince	But the problem here is there's other states.
[08:06]	IsambardPrince	Where they'll sell them to anyone.
[08:06]	IsambardPrince	In bulk.
[08:06]	IsambardPrince	They cross a state line with no guardposts or fences or walls.
[08:06]	IsambardPrince	And sell them to criminals.
[08:06]	IsambardPrince	And the entire system becomes a joke.
[08:07]	IsambardPrince	37.5% of all crime guns in Chicago, are sold by 1 gun store, in Indiana.
[08:07]	IsambardPrince	Nobody can stop them.
[08:07]	IsambardPrince	It's happening in another state.
[08:07]	IsambardPrince	Illinois criminals go to Indiana for guns.
[08:08]	IsambardPrince	Indiana criminals go to Illinois for murdering their babies and doing it legally. (abortion)
[08:08]	IsambardPrince	It's a crazy world.
[08:08]	eidolon	The problem isn't in the other states.
[08:08]	eidolon	and Constitutional Carry is the ideal
[08:08]	IsambardPrince	This isn't a problem that local government can fix.
[08:08]	IsambardPrince	So it shouldn't try.
[08:09]	IsambardPrince	This is a problem that requires federal laws and amendments that nobody will pass.
[08:09]	IsambardPrince	Or else nothing works.
[08:09]	eidolon	If you reside in Illinois then I understand working with what you've got on that front.
[08:09]	IsambardPrince	I'm not against all gun control, but solving these problems on the federal level is necessary.
[08:09]	IsambardPrince	And nobody is doing that.
[08:10]	IsambardPrince	The federal government is set up to be incredibly right-wing by nature.
[08:10]	IsambardPrince	It's ran by sabateurs.
[08:10]	eidolon	They acquire the guns through straw purchases, so it isn't as though they are "selling to anyone".
[08:10]	eidolon	The purchaser fills out the 4473 form and has a background check on behalf of a criminal.
[08:10]	eidolon	Which is already highly illegal.
[08:10]	IsambardPrince	Right, all it requires someone to do is walk into a gun store and lie on a form.
[08:11]	IsambardPrince	That one person passes a NICS check, nobody in the ATF even knows how many guns he buys unless someone rats him out.
[08:11]	IsambardPrince	And why would a business selling a lot of product want to do that?
[08:11]	IsambardPrince	They don't know where the guns are going, for certain.
[08:11]	IsambardPrince	They have an idea but they don't really want to know.
[08:12]	IsambardPrince	It's an incredibly broken system.
[08:12]	IsambardPrince	And what happens when they pass a gun control law?
[08:13]	IsambardPrince	They try to use it on hundreds of thousands of people who have not broken any laws, as collective punishment.
[08:13]	eidolon	That is true.
[08:13]	IsambardPrince	They try to bulk add every person with a medical diagnosis into NICS.
[08:13]	TR News	Techrights Gemini Links 05/09/2024: ROOPHLOC, Source-of-Truth Problem, and Arrival of Autumn https://techrights.org/n/2024/09/05/Gemini_Links_05_09_2024_ROOPHLOC_Source_of_Truth_Problem_and_Ar.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/09/05/Gemini_Links_05_09_2024_ROOPHLOC_Source_of_Truth_Problem_and_Ar.gmi 
[08:13]	TR Bot	 Techrights Gemini Links 05/09/2024: ROOPHLOC, Source-of-Truth Problem, and Arrival of Autumn
[08:13]	IsambardPrince	Label them all crazy so if they fill out a 4473, they'll be "lying" and don't even know it.
[08:13]	IsambardPrince	Then they can be sent to prison for 10 years.
[08:14]	IsambardPrince	They don't let you go to the atf website and run a NICS check on yourself.
[08:14]	IsambardPrince	About the closest way to know if you'd pass one is get a FOID Card.
[08:15]	IsambardPrince	That way it would be a misdemeanor that nobody is going to fuck around with anyway, or you get a FOID Card and you know you're not on NICS.
[08:15]	IsambardPrince	Pay attention to the exact wording of the questions, and answer the form honestly.
[08:16]	IsambardPrince	If you get a Card, you're not in NICS or any of a number of other "databases".
[08:16]	IsambardPrince	If you think that one of those questions describes you, even maybe, don't even fill the form out.
[08:16]	eidolon	The exact wording has to do with involuntary committal, what they'd call 'sectioning' in the UK.
[08:16]	IsambardPrince	Well, under State law you'd be committing a crime under voluntary too if it's inpatient in the past 5 years.
[08:17]	IsambardPrince	But you'd know if you checked yourself in.
[08:17]	IsambardPrince	And you'd really know it if they took you there. :P
[08:17]	IsambardPrince	If you check yourself in for mental health inpatient voluntarily, you get a FOID revocation.
[08:17]	IsambardPrince	They'll be out for your guns and FOID Card shortly.
[08:17]	IsambardPrince	You're barred from asking for another card for 5 years.
[08:18]	eidolon	IsambardPrince, I read recently some official claiming that in Illinois, nobody ever follows up on these revocations anyway.
[08:18]	IsambardPrince	There's also the magic words that get reported to DHS.
[08:18]	IsambardPrince	If you say you're going to hurt yourself, then they report it within 72 hours.
[08:18]	IsambardPrince	It's the law.
[08:18]	IsambardPrince	So if anyone asks, you are definitely not going to hurt yourself.
[08:18]	IsambardPrince	You may be depressed.
[08:18]	IsambardPrince	But you don't want to hurt yourself.
[08:19]	IsambardPrince	<eidolon> IsambardPrince, I read recently some official claiming that in Illinois, nobody ever follows up on these revocations anyway.
[08:19]	IsambardPrince	Not true.
[08:19]	IsambardPrince	The assault weapons ban that went into effect this year funds FOID revocation and makes it mandatory.
[08:19]	IsambardPrince	:)
[08:19]	IsambardPrince	Which means you should not:
[08:19]	IsambardPrince	State that you are considering self-harm.
[08:20]	IsambardPrince	State that you want to hurt anyone else.
[08:20]	IsambardPrince	Check in for inpatient voluntary treatment.
[08:20]	IsambardPrince	Be taken in for involuntary treatment (permanent ban, and NICS).
[08:20]	eidolon	I mean the rescinded FOID card holders never surrender their firearms.
[08:20]	eidolon	Not that FOID cards are not revoked.
[08:21]	IsambardPrince	Be convicted of a violent crime. (But pleading down to something non-violent is okay. So is supervision if it got dismissed.)
[08:21]	IsambardPrince	Don't be the subject of a protective order in the past two years.
[08:21]	IsambardPrince	Don't be ruled a mental defective.
[08:21]	IsambardPrince	Don't be ruled a mental retard.
[08:21]	IsambardPrince	:)
[08:21]	IsambardPrince	<eidolon> I mean the rescinded FOID card holders never surrender their firearms.
[08:21]	IsambardPrince	<eidolon> Not that FOID cards are not revoked.
[08:22]	IsambardPrince	The police show up and demand all of them back, and the card.
[08:22]	IsambardPrince	If you do not comply you get more criminal charges.
[08:23]	eidolon	https://apnews.com/article/illinois-firearms-revocation-foid-shootings-guns-479b7a41c5c5c862d5b07f1e2c49fe2b
[08:23]	TR Bot	 Over 80,000 Illinois people banned from owning guns still keep them, report shows | AP News
[08:23]	IsambardPrince	"Extended capacity magazines" are illegal, but the only thing that happens is a fine of up to $1,000.
[08:23]	eidolon	Just for reference/
[08:23]	IsambardPrince	You can pay the fine as many times as you can afford it.
[08:23]	IsambardPrince	eidolon, There was a huge backlog.
[08:23]	IsambardPrince	They're actively working cases but they lost track of at least 67,000 guns before that.
[08:24]	IsambardPrince	They can come to your house any time they get around to it.
[08:24]	IsambardPrince	But they prioritize fresh revocations.
[08:24]	IsambardPrince	So it may never happen.
[08:24]	IsambardPrince	It may happen in a week.
[08:24]	IsambardPrince	Or any time in between.
[08:24]	IsambardPrince	They prioritize recent ones and the more violent offenders.
[08:25]	IsambardPrince	The problem with these people is they disappear for years at a time sometimes.
[08:25]	TR News	Techrights ChromeOS+GNU+Linux in Sweden Now Hovering Around 20% https://techrights.org/n/2024/09/05/ChromeOS_GNU_Linux_in_Sweden_Now_Hovering_Around_20.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/09/05/ChromeOS_GNU_Linux_in_Sweden_Now_Hovering_Around_20.gmi 
[08:25]	TR Bot	 Techrights ChromeOS+GNU+Linux in Sweden Now Hovering Around 20%
[08:25]	IsambardPrince	They have no regular employment.
[08:25]	IsambardPrince	They just murder people, sling dope, make babies, and crash on someone's couch.
[08:25]	IsambardPrince	The use aliases.
[08:26]	IsambardPrince	You're thinking "Gee, how would I hide from these people if I had a 30 year fixed rate mortgage and paid my taxes and went to work 5 days a week?"
[08:26]	IsambardPrince	And you won't!
[08:26]	IsambardPrince	But these people aren't like that.
[08:26]	TR News	"I love watching Thrive continue to grow. A free and open source evolution sim where you start off life as a single microbe. The latest release version 0.7.0 is out now adding new gameplay features." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2024/09/open-source-evolution-sim-thrive-adds-sprinting-visual-upgrades-more-competitive-ai/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[08:26]	TR Bot	source evolution sim 'Thrive' adds sprinting, visual upgrades, more competitive AI | GamingOnLinux
[08:28]	IsambardPrince	eidolon, If these people on TikTok that stole bags of money from Chase had a Chase account, they were probably just depositing their drug money normally.
[08:28]	IsambardPrince	They don't pay their taxes.
[08:29]	IsambardPrince	Some people figure that without drug money on deposit, even more big banks would have collapsed in 2008.
[08:29]	IsambardPrince	HSBC was the one that got caught laundering money for terrorists and narcos.
[08:29]	IsambardPrince	You don't think most of them are doing that? Or at least don't care where the deposits came from?
[08:30]	IsambardPrince	HSBC was the mortgage originator for mom and Gonad's house.
[08:30]	IsambardPrince	The mortgage kept getting sold.
[08:31]	IsambardPrince	You owe it under the original terms to whoever buys the debt.
[08:31]	IsambardPrince	Once you're in debt, they can buy and sell you.
[08:31]	IsambardPrince	They buy and sell people who are poverty stricken and can only get a $500 credit card.
[08:31]	IsambardPrince	Capital One calls it COMET.
[08:32]	IsambardPrince	schestowitz[TR2], Richard Stallman told me he didn't quite understand how credit cards worked when I explained it to him.
[08:32]	IsambardPrince	I'm guessing he might not have much of a credit score.
[08:32]	IsambardPrince	Maybe not one at all.
[08:35]	IsambardPrince	brb
[08:35]		*IsambardPrince has quit (Quit: Leaving)
[08:39]	TR News	"CosmicDev recently put up a demo for Cosmic Call, a very scribbly-styled retro boomer shooter that sees you fight through small arena levels as you keep powering up. The demo is quite limited, but nicely showcases the idea." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2024/09/cosmic-call-is-basically-nuclear-throne-as-a-rogue-lite-boomer-shooter/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[08:39]	TR Bot	Call is basically Nuclear Throne as a rogue-lite boomer shooter | GamingOnLinux
[08:39]	TR News	"Remember the classic game Snake? Well this is ART for Snakes, a "snake-ish" game about eating the most expensive paintings you can before the time runs out. Disclosure: one of the team is a previous contributor to GamingOnLinux." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2024/09/devour-famous-paintings-in-the-classic-snake-ish-game-art-for-snakes/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[08:39]	TR Bot	famous paintings in the classic Snake-ish game ART for Snakes | GamingOnLinux
[08:42]	TR News	"Attack of the clones! Well, sort of anyway. We have Bazzite, ChimeraOS, HoloISO and now SteamFork as well. There's so much choice to get Linux on your handhelds." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2024/09/steamfork-is-yet-another-linux-distribution-aiming-to-be-a-steamos-like-for-handhelds/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[08:42]	TR Bot	is yet another Linux distribution aiming to be a SteamOS-like for handhelds | GamingOnLinux
[08:43]	TR News	"There's a whole lot of Vampire Survivor-likes and bullet hell / bullet heaven mixtures around, but not many stick you directly in the driver's seat like Earl vs. the Mutants." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2024/09/earl-vs-the-mutants-is-choatic-survivor-like-fun-with-vehicles/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[08:43]	TR Bot	vs. the Mutants is chaotic survivor-like fun with vehicles | GamingOnLinux
[08:44]	TR News	Microsoft spam from SANS, as usual https://isc.sans.edu/diary/rss/31078 ("Protected OOXML Text Documents")
[08:44]	TR Bot	 Protected OOXML Text Documents - SANS Internet Storm Center
[08:44]		*IsambardPrince (~isambardprince@pk6pfv8khanqc.irc) has joined #techrights
[08:45]	TR News	"Here we go again. Another vendor has decided to make their own PC gaming handheld and this time it's Acer with the Nitro Blaze 7." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2024/09/acer-enter-the-handheld-pc-gaming-race-with-the-nitro-blaze-7/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[08:45]	TR Bot	enter the handheld PC gaming race with the Nitro Blaze 7 | GamingOnLinux
[08:45]	TR News	"While it has yet to have a proper full announcement, the Retroid Pocket 5 sounds like a nice device for those of you who love retro gaming and for the first time it will have proper Linux support too." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2024/09/retroid-pocket-5-and-retroid-pocket-mini-will-have-linux-support/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[08:45]	TR Bot	Pocket 5 and Retroid Pocket Mini will have Linux support | GamingOnLinux
[08:46]	TR News	"Foundry Virtual Tabletop is a popular (and Linux-supported) modern online role-playing system and now the creators are working on a massive new game called Ember." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2024/09/ember-is-a-huge-online-tabletop-rpg-from-the-creators-of-foundry-virtual-tabletop/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[08:46]	TR Bot	is a huge online tabletop RPG from the creators of Foundry Virtual Tabletop | GamingOnLinux
[08:48]	TR News	"Bring Your Linux Knowledge Up with Required Command Line Settings" https://odysee.com/@RobBraxmanTech:6/linux-commands:d
[08:48]	TR Bot	 Bring Your Linux Knowledge Up with Required Command Line Settings
[08:49]	TR News	"Can someone tell Hello Games it's all good now, everyone is over the poor launch? Actually don't, I want to see just how far they will keep pushing No Man's Sky. The latest update is a goodie too." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2024/09/no-mans-sky-adds-fishing-a-fishing-skiff-a-new-expedition-deep-sea-diving-and-loads-more/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[08:49]	TR Bot	Man's Sky adds fishing, a fishing skiff, a new expedition, deep-sea diving and loads more | GamingOnLinux
[08:50]	TR News	"Ready for more games? After a pretty good Humble Choice for August 2024, there's a new Humble Summer Narrative Celebration Bundle also now live." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2024/09/the-humble-summer-narrative-celebration-bundle-will-have-you-sink-some-hours-in/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[08:50]	TR Bot	Humble Summer Narrative Celebration Bundle will have you sink some hours in | GamingOnLinux
[08:52]	schestowitz[TR2]	IsambardPrince: today we make llots of sushi
[08:52]	schestowitz[TR2]	maybe 50 pieces
[08:52]	schestowitz[TR2]	i got all the ingredients
[08:53]	schestowitz[TR2]	including vegie "tuna" ("tvna")
[08:55]	TR News	 (NEW):  Games: Humble Bundle, SteamFork, Cosmic Call, and More https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/05/Games_Humble_Bundle_SteamFork_Cosmic_Call_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/05/Games_Humble_Bundle_SteamFork_Cosmic_Call_and_More.gmi 
[08:55]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Games: Humble Bundle, SteamFork, Cosmic Call, and More
[08:58]	TR News	SCOTUS is run by lobby families https://www.propublica.org/article/ginni-thomas-email-scotus-ethics-reform-first-liberty-institute | Source: Pro Publica
[08:59]	TR Bot	 Ginni Thomas Email Praised Group Opposing SCOTUS Reform ProPublica
[08:59]	TR News	Civil Rights Inquiry https://www.propublica.org/article/dane-county-wisconsin-doj-sherrif-dairy-farms-language-civil-rights | Source: Pro Publica
[08:59]	TR Bot	 DOJ and Dane County, WI, Sheriff Reach Deal on Civil Rights Inquiry ProPublica
● Sep 05
[09:00]	TR News	Whose Speech Is Being Curtailed https://fair.org/home/a-bookstore-brouhaha-confuses-whose-speech-is-being-curtailed/ | Source: FAIR
[09:00]	TR Bot	 A Bookstore Brouhaha Confuses Whose Speech Is Being Curtailed FAIR
[09:01]	TR News	"Arti is our ongoing project to create a next-generation Tor client in Rust. Now we're announcing the latest release, Arti 1.2.7." https://blog.torproject.org/arti_1_2_7_released/ | Source: Tor
[09:01]	TR Bot	 Arti 1.2.7 is released: onion services, RPC, and more | The Tor Project
[09:03]	TR News	"Major sports rightsholders and broadcasters in Canada have selected UK-based site-blocking" https://torrentfreak.com/ufc-mlb-join-pirate-iptv-blocking-as-broadcasters-collaborate-to-cut-costs-240904/ | Source: Torrent Freak
[09:03]	TR Bot	& MLB Join Pirate IPTV Blocking as Broadcasters Collaborate to Cut Costs * TorrentFreak
[09:03]	TR News	"This weekend, popular torrent site TorrentGalaxy went 'offline' displaying an image that some interpreted as a farewell message." https://torrentfreak.com/torrentgalaxy-is-back-online-uploads-resume-240904/ | Source: Torrent Freak
[09:03]	TR Bot	is Back Online & Uploads Resume * TorrentFreak
[09:06]	TR News	"king sez"... "musk sez"... "trump sez" https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/news/stephen-king-elon-musk-donald-trump-b2606864.html for ($tweet) in ($user) print($tweet) while media_sponsor>=1
[09:06]	TR Bot	 Stephen King tells Elon Musk hes too bright to be supporting Trump | The Independent
[09:07]	IsambardPrince	I love sushi.
[09:07]	TR News	they could investigate funding and such, but that would take actual work... better to just parrot some twits' tweets; this 'journalism' is easily swappable with slop machines
[09:07]	IsambardPrince	schestowitz[TR2], Mandy said the grocery store here has good sushi.
[09:07]	IsambardPrince	I tried some. Not bad.
[09:07]	IsambardPrince	They have it on sale on Thursdays.
[09:07]	TR News	So they will just saturate away the REAL work with SLOP (LLM spew) so that the journalism becomes no longer viable'; if slop is "blurry JPEG" (a metaphor used elsewhere), then by spewing out a lot of slop the WWW gets shaped by an "average" that treats actual journalism like an outline; "median" conformism and normalism.
[09:07]	IsambardPrince	Might swing over and pick some up now that you reminded me of that.
[09:08]	IsambardPrince	schestowitz[TR2], Invited mom to come up here for his citizenship interview.
[09:08]	IsambardPrince	They might just go ahead and do the swearing in the same day.
[09:08]	TR News	iophk: "Actual [journalistic] work means an actual salary and the oligarchs which own the media won't even hear of paying that, for just that reason. Steganography. Or so that the journalism is hidden is a cloud of slop. And people just plain can't find it. That is one of the goals. The other is to cultivate total mistrust of all online content."
[09:09]	schestowitz[TR2]	it tends to be dry on grocery stores
[09:09]	schestowitz[TR2]	because they add things to it
[09:09]	schestowitz[TR2]	to make it last a bit
[09:14]	IsambardPrince	https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-09-04/kim-jong-un-executes-officials-after-deadly-floods-media-says
[09:14]	TR Bot	- Are you a robot?
[09:15]	IsambardPrince	"North Korea executed multiple government officials after extensive flooding in late July killed thousands in the countrys northern region, according to a TV Chosun report.
[09:15]	IsambardPrince	Around 20 to 30 regional government officials in the flood-stricken area were shot last month, TV Chosun said, citing an unidentified South Korean government official. The devastating floods may have killed up to a few thousand people in the most-hit area in Jagang province, the cable TV reported."
[09:15]	IsambardPrince	Communism shoots people because of the weather?
[09:15]	eidolon	IsambardPrince, there is no reciprocity with IL either, being a CCW license holder in PA (a 'shall issue' state).
[09:15]	eidolon	If I travel West it's the first state along the way to make me a felon. :)
[09:16]	IsambardPrince	You can transport it in the car with you, as long as it's unloaded and the ammunition is in the trunk.
[09:17]	IsambardPrince	That's what you have to do anyway when you're out of the house and have a FOID card but no CCW.
[09:17]	eidolon	But IL officials will blame neighboring states for not making their jobs easier.
[09:17]	IsambardPrince	A FOID Card doesn't authorize you to conceal and carry.
[09:17]	IsambardPrince	It's a separate license, but they can both be on the same card.
[09:18]	TR News	Labour Conference https://www.desmog.com/2024/09/04/fossil-fuel-lobbyists-major-polluters-sponsor-2024-labour-conference-events-drax-cadent-oeuk-new-statesman/ | Source: DeSmog
[09:18]	TR Bot	Fuel Lobbyists and Major Polluters to Sponsor Labour Conference Events - DeSmog
[09:18]	IsambardPrince	I don't think Illinois does reciprocity with anyone.
[09:18]	IsambardPrince	To get that your laws have to be substantially similar.
[09:18]	IsambardPrince	Without a FOID-like system, it's not.
[09:18]	TR News	"In 1990, Soldatov led the Relcom computer network that made the first Soviet connection to the global internet." https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2024/09/eff-calls-release-alexey-soldatov-father-russian-internet | Source: EFF
[09:18]	TR Bot	 EFF Calls For Release of Alexey Soldatov, "Father of the Russian Internet" | Electronic Frontier Foundation
[09:19]	TR News	"When you think of Sony, you probably think of a technology company thats been around forever." https://hackaday.com/2024/09/04/how-sony-mastered-the-transistor/ | Source: Hackaday
[09:19]	TR Bot	Sony Mastered The Transistor | Hackaday
[09:26]	TR News	How to Install ISPConfig Hosting Control Panel with Apache Web Server on Ubuntu 24.04 https://vitux.com/how-to-install-ispconfig-hosting-control-panel-with-apache-web-server-on-ubuntu-24-04/
[09:26]	TR Bot	to Install ISPConfig Hosting Control Panel with Apache Web Server on Ubuntu 24.04 VITUX
[09:26]	TR News	How to Install Nginx, PHP, MariaDB, and PhpMyAdmin on Arch GNU/Linux https://www.tecmint.com/install-lemp-on-arch-linux/
[09:26]	TR Bot	 How to Install LEMP (Nginx, PHP, MariaDB) on Arch Linux
[09:28]	TR News	Firefox became pure BS, run by people who chase buzzwords instead of science and advancement https://ostechnix.com/firefox-integrating-ai-chatbots/
[09:28]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://ostechnix.com/firefox-integrating-ai-chatbots/ )
[09:29]	TR News	How To Install And Manage Packages From Copr Repository In GNU/Linux https://ostechnix.com/install-and-manage-packages-from-copr-repository-in-linux/
[09:29]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://ostechnix.com/install-and-manage-packages-from-copr-repository-in-linux/ )
[09:29]	TR News	How to Setup SFTP Server on Debian 12 https://www.linuxtechi.com/setup-sftp-server-on-debian/
[09:29]	TR Bot	 How to Setup SFTP Server on Debian 12
[09:31]	TR News	Hey Hi (AI)Hey Hi (AI)Hey Hi (AI)Hey Hi (AI)Hey Hi (AI)Hey Hi (AI)Hey Hi (AI)Hey Hi (AI)Hey Hi (AI)Hey Hi (AI)Hey Hi (AI)Hey Hi (AI)Hey Hi (AI) https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2024/09/04/use-stable-diffusion-create-images-red-hat-openshift-ai-rosa-cluster-gpu
[09:31]	TR Bot	 Use Stable Diffusion to create images on Red Hat OpenShift AI on a ROSA cluster with GPU enabled | Red Hat Developer
[09:31]	TR News	Automating the outsourcing https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/managing-automatic-certificate-management-environment-acme-identity-management-idm | Source: Red Hat Official
[09:31]	TR Bot	 Managing Automatic Certificate Management Environment (ACME) in Identity Management (IdM)
[09:35]	TR News	"The two companies had been negotiating at DirecTVs El Segundo headquarters for weeks" https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2024-09-03/what-to-know-about-the-disney-espn-blackout-on-directv | Source: Los Angeles Times
[09:35]	TR Bot	 What to know about the Disney blackout on DirecTV - Los Angeles Times
[09:36]	TR News	"A final appeal could potentially be taken to the Supreme Court." https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/04/technology/internet-archive-appeals-court-ruling.html | Source: New York Times
[09:36]	TR Bot	 Internet Archive Loses Court Appeal in Fight Over Online Lending Library - The New York Times
[09:36]	TR News	"The book publishers Hachette, HarperCollins, John Wiley & Sons, and Penguin Random House" https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/internet-archive-loses-appeal-book-publishers-copyright-case-1235095174/ | Source: Rolling Stone
[09:36]	TR Bot	 Internet Archive Loses Appeal of Book Publishers Copyright Case
[09:37]	TR News	"The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit rejected the nonprofits claim in a lawsuit" https://siliconangle.com/2024/09/04/internet-archive-loses-appeal-court-rules-e-book-lending-copyright-infringement/ | Source: Silicon Angle
[09:37]	TR Bot	Archive loses appeal, court rules e-book lending is copyright infringement - SiliconANGLE
[09:37]	TR News	"The NEL was an offshoot of an ongoing digital lending project called the Open Library" https://www.wired.com/story/internet-archive-loses-hachette-books-case-appeal/ | Source: Wired
[09:37]	TR Bot	Internet Archive Loses Its Appeal of a Major Copyright Case | WIRED
[09:38]	TR News	"provide criticism" https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/09/internet-archives-e-book-lending-is-not-fair-use-appeals-court-rules/ | Source: Ars Technica
[09:38]	TR Bot	 Internet Archives e-book lending is not fair use, appeals court rules | Ars Technica
[09:39]	TR News	"meaning that data can be used only after consent is explicitly given by creators" https://www.wired.com/story/dataset-providers-alliance-ethical-generative-ai-licensing/ | Source: Wired
[09:39]	TR Bot	New Group Is Trying to Make AI Data Licensing Ethical | WIRED
[09:40]	TR News	"Apple seems to have tried to mislead the UK regulator that a deceptive pattern they had previously implemented" https://open-web-advocacy.org/blog/apple-appears-to-mislead-uk-regulator-over-deceptive-default-browser-user-interface/ | Source: Open Web Advocacy
[09:40]	TR Bot	 Apple appears to mislead UK Regulator over deceptive default browser user interface - Open Web Advocacy
[09:42]	TR News	Use kube-burner to measure Red Bait OpenShift VM and storage deployment at scale https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2024/09/04/use-kube-burner-measure-red-hat-openshift-vm-and-storage-deployment-scale
[09:42]	TR Bot	 Use kube-burner to measure Red Hat OpenShift VM and storage deployment at scale | Red Hat Developer
[09:43]	TR News	ML4W Dotfiles 2.9.6 as AUR. Install of HYPRLAND on Arch COSMOS Instance https://dbaxps.blogspot.com/2024/09/ml4w-dotfiles-296-as-aur-install-of.html
[09:43]	TR Bot	 Openstack RDO && KVM Hypervisor: ML4W Dotfiles 2.9.6 as AUR. Install of HYPRLAND on Arch COSMOS Instance
[09:44]	TR News	How to Clone a Git Repository to a Specific [Directory] https://linuxbuz.com/devops/clone-a-git-repository-to-a-specific-folder
[09:44]	TR Bot	to Clone a Git Repository to a Specific Folder - LinuxBuz
[09:50]	TR News	How to Change Remote Origin URL in Git https://linuxbuz.com/devops/change-remote-origin-in-git
[09:50]	TR Bot	to Change Remote Origin URL in Git - LinuxBuz
[09:50]	TR News	 (NEW):  Plasma Crash Course - DrKonqi https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/05/Plasma_Crash_Course_DrKonqi.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/05/Plasma_Crash_Course_DrKonqi.gmi 
[09:50]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Plasma Crash Course - DrKonqi
[09:52]	IsambardPrince	schestowitz[TR2], I'm sure Mandy is sick of Burger King already.
[09:52]	IsambardPrince	Walmart+ gives you 25% off Burger King once a day now and my credit card gives another 5% on restaurants.
[09:52]	IsambardPrince	It takes that just to get the normal prices from 3-4 years ago. :P
[09:52]	IsambardPrince	I'm sure Burger Kong is happy just to get the foot traffic.
[09:52]	TR News	How to Completely Remove Flatpak Apps on GNU/Linux https://idroot.us/remove-flatpak-apps-linux/
[09:53]	TR Bot	 How to Completely Remove Flatpak Apps on Linux - idroot
[09:53]	IsambardPrince	*King
[09:53]	IsambardPrince	The fast food companies raised their prices so high that most of the customers disappeared.
[09:53]	IsambardPrince	Instead of just lowering them, they resort to gimmicks.
[09:53]	TR News	How To Install Audacity on AlmaLinux 9 https://idroot.us/install-audacity-almalinux-9/
[09:53]	TR Bot	 How To Install Audacity on AlmaLinux 9 - idroot
[09:53]	IsambardPrince	They don't do value meals and extreme couponing unless there's a broader economic problem.
[09:54]		*IsambardPrince has quit (Quit: Leaving)
[09:54]	schestowitz[TR2]	and IBM "hey hi" screens
[09:54]	schestowitz[TR2]	so you do their work
[09:54]	schestowitz[TR2]	or the work their salaries taff was meant to do
[09:54]	schestowitz[TR2]	as part of this ;'dumb' thing called 'service'
[09:55]	schestowitz[TR2]	a bit like Cosmo Kramer in the episode of "make your own pizza"
[09:55]	TR News	How To Install Nautilus Terminal on Ubuntu 24.04 LTS https://idroot.us/install-nautilus-terminal-ubuntu-24-04/
[09:55]	TR Bot	 How To Install Nautilus Terminal on Ubuntu 24.04 LTS - idroot
[09:55]	TR News	How To Install Telegram on Debian 12 https://idroot.us/install-telegram-debian-12/
[09:55]	TR Bot	 How To Install Telegram on Debian 12 - idroot
[09:56]	TR News	How to Install phpMyAdmin with Docker Compose https://linuxiac.com/how-to-install-phpmyadmin-with-docker-compose/
[09:56]	TR Bot	 How to Install phpMyAdmin with Docker Compose
[09:56]		*IsambardPrince (~isambardprince@j6e25wj4aubsa.irc) has joined #techrights
[09:56]	schestowitz[TR2]	see scrollback
[09:56]	schestowitz[TR2]	 /history of web address
[09:56]	TR News	How To Change Hostname on Ubuntu 24.04 LTS https://idroot.us/change-hostname-ubuntu-24-04/
[09:56]	TR Bot	 How To Change Hostname on Ubuntu 24.04 LTS - idroot
[09:56]	TR News	How To Install phpMyAdmin with Docker Compose https://idroot.us/install-phpmyadmin-docker-compose/
[09:56]	TR Bot	 How To Install phpMyAdmin with Docker Compose - idroot
[09:57]	TR News	How To Install Realtek Wifi Drivers on Ubuntu 24.04 LTS https://idroot.us/install-realtek-wifi-drivers-ubuntu-24-04/
[09:57]	TR Bot	 How To Install Realtek Wifi Drivers on Ubuntu 24.04 LTS - idroot
[09:57]	TR News	How To Install Audacity on Ubuntu 24.04 LTS https://idroot.us/install-audacity-ubuntu-24-04/
[09:57]	TR Bot	 How To Install Audacity on Ubuntu 24.04 LTS - idroot
[09:59]	TR News	How to install Opera Browser on Ubuntu 24.04 or 22.04 LTS GNU/Linux https://linux.how2shout.com/how-to-install-opera-browser-on-ubuntu-22-04-lts-jammy/
[09:59]	TR Bot	 How to install Opera Browser on Ubuntu 24.04 or 22.04 LTS Linux - Linux Shout
[09:59]	TR News	How to install Apache Tomcat 10 on Ubuntu 24.04 or 22.04 LTS https://linux.how2shout.com/how-to-install-apache-tomcat-10-on-ubuntu-22-04-lts/
[09:59]	TR Bot	 How to install Apache Tomcat 10 on Ubuntu 24.04 or 22.04 LTS - Linux Shout
● Sep 05
[10:00]	TR News	How to Install Jenkins on Ubuntu 24.04, 22.04 or 20.04 GNU/Linux https://linux.how2shout.com/how-to-install-jenkins-on-ubuntu-22-04-or-20-04-linux/
[10:00]	TR Bot	 How to Install Jenkins on Ubuntu 24.04, 22.04 or 20.04 Linux - Linux Shout
[10:00]	TR News	How-To Geek Changed Ownership a Year Ago, Now It Covers GNU/Linux Quite a Lot https://techrights.org/n/2024/09/04/How_To_Geek_Changed_Ownership_a_Year_Ago_Now_It_Covers_GNU_Linu.shtml
[10:00]	TR Bot	 Techrights How-To Geek Changed Ownership a Year Ago, Now It Covers GNU/Linux Quite a Lot
[10:00]	TR News	Sign of Going Mainstream and Growing Interest in GNU/Linux https://techrights.org/n/2024/09/04/Sign_of_Going_Mainstream_and_Growing_Interest_in_GNU_Linux.shtml
[10:00]	TR Bot	 Techrights Sign of Going Mainstream and Growing Interest in GNU/Linux
[10:00]	TR News	 (NEW):  Best Free and Open Source Software, howtos and Installations https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/05/Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Software_howtos_and_Installations.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/05/Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Software_howtos_and_Installations.gmi 
[10:00]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Best Free and Open Source Software, howtos and Installations
[10:05]	TR News	 (NEW):  Drauger OS: A Gaming OS https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/05/Drauger_OS_A_Gaming_OS.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/05/Drauger_OS_A_Gaming_OS.gmi 
[10:05]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Drauger OS: A Gaming OS
[10:05]	TR News	 (NEW):  QEMU 9.1 Improves ARM and RISC-V Support, Adds Compression Offload Support https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/05/QEMU_9_1_Improves_ARM_and_RISC_V_Support_Adds_Compression_Offlo.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/05/QEMU_9_1_Improves_ARM_and_RISC_V_Support_Adds_Compression_Offlo.gmi 
[10:05]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines QEMU 9.1 Improves ARM and RISC-V Support, Adds Compression Offload Support
[10:06]	IsambardPrince	https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/09/03/france-rape-trial-husband-wife-drugged/
[10:06]	TR Bot	stream 1 was not closed cleanly: INTERNAL_ERROR (err 2) ( status 0 @ https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/09/03/france-rape-trial-husband-wife-drugged/ )
[10:07]	TR News	 (NEW):  Audacity 3.6.2 Audio Editor Adds Legacy Effects Section, Fixes Multiple Bugs https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/03/Audacity_3_6_2_Audio_Editor_Adds_Legacy_Effects_Section_Fixes_M.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/03/Audacity_3_6_2_Audio_Editor_Adds_Legacy_Effects_Section_Fixes_M.gmi 
[10:07]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Audacity 3.6.2 Audio Editor Adds Legacy Effects Section, Fixes Multiple Bugs
[10:10]	TR News	 (NEW):  Today's HowTos   https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/05/today_s_howtos.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/05/today_s_howtos.gmi 
[10:10]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines today's howtos
[10:10]	TR News	 (NEW):  Ubuntus New Security Center Readies Stable Release https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/05/Ubuntu_s_New_Security_Center_Readies_Stable_Release.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/05/Ubuntu_s_New_Security_Center_Readies_Stable_Release.gmi 
[10:10]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Ubuntus New Security Center Readies Stable Release
[10:12]	TR News	"As the network grows, the little point-to-point transit networks between routers really start adding up." https://blog.apnic.net/2024/09/05/vpp-with-loopback-only-ospfv3-part-2/ | Source: APNIC
[10:12]	TR Bot	 VPP with loopback-only OSPFv3: Part 2 | APNIC Blog
[10:12]	TR News	"A summary of the results will be presented at APNIC 58 during the APNIC Member Meeting on Friday, 6 September" https://blog.apnic.net/2024/09/05/2024-apnic-survey-report-released/ | Source: APNIC
[10:12]	TR Bot	 2024 APNIC Survey report released | APNIC Blog
[10:13]	TR News	"The results of the APNIC Survey 2024 will be presented at APNIC 58." https://www.apnic.net/community/participate/member-feedback/ |
[10:13]	TR Bot	 APNIC Survey APNIC
[10:14]	TR News	"As part of an executive order signed last fall" https://federalnewsnetwork.com/federal-report/2024/09/security-in-the-age-of-telework-continues-to-be-a-shared-responsibility/ | Source: Federal News Network
[10:14]	TR Bot	 Security in the age of telework continues to be a shared responsibility
[10:17]	TR News	 (NEW):  6 reasons you should use Ubuntu for your own NAS https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/05/6_reasons_you_should_use_Ubuntu_for_your_own_NAS.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/05/6_reasons_you_should_use_Ubuntu_for_your_own_NAS.gmi 
[10:17]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines 6 reasons you should use Ubuntu for your own NAS
[10:19]	schestowitz[TR2]	Got this new testimony for my case today
[10:20]	TR News	"However, the root causes of food insecurity are systemic issues like inadequate income, social inequalities" https://phys.org/news/2024-09-tackling-food-insecurity-requires-charity.html | Source: Omicron Limited
[10:20]	TR Bot	 Tackling food insecurity requires more than charitygovernments must also act, say researchers
[10:21]	TR News	"A 2021 bipartisan FTC report showcased how these claims are routinely false." https://www.techdirt.com/2024/09/04/appliance-tractor-and-irrigation-companies-lobby-against-military-right-to-repair-reforms/ | Source: Techdirt
[10:21]	TR Bot	Tractor, And Irrigation Companies Lobby Against Military Right To Repair Reforms | Techdirt
[10:21]	TR News	[Old] "The anti-repair lobbying shows that manufacturers are still doing everything they can to retain lucrative service contracts" https://www.404media.co/appliance-and-tractor-companies-lobby-against-giving-the-military-the-right-to-repair/ | Source: 404 Media
[10:21]	TR Bot	 Appliance and Tractor Companies Lobby Against Giving the Military the Right to Repair
[10:22]	schestowitz[TR2]	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGnXR0_V9eo
[10:22]	TR Bot	https://invidious.tiekoetter.com/watch?v=QGnXR0_V9eo
[10:22]	TR Bot	api.invidious.io | Invidious Instances
[10:22]	schestowitz[TR2]	>
[10:22]	schestowitz[TR2]	"""
[10:22]	schestowitz[TR2]	Video unavailable
[10:22]	schestowitz[TR2]	This video contains content from WMG, who has blocked it on copyright grounds
[10:22]	schestowitz[TR2]	"""
[10:22]	TR News	 (NEW):  Minimalist Linux distro Peropesis 2.7 comes with archive and ISO management tools https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/05/Minimalist_Linux_distro_Peropesis_2_7_comes_with_archive_and_IS.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/05/Minimalist_Linux_distro_Peropesis_2_7_comes_with_archive_and_IS.gmi 
[10:22]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Minimalist Linux distro Peropesis 2.7 comes with archive and ISO management tools
[10:28]		*IsambardPrince has quit (Quit: Leaving)
[10:29]	TR News	 (NEW):  Debian-based Q4OS 5.6 arrives with a desktop profiler and Calamares improvements https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/05/Debian_based_Q4OS_5_6_arrives_with_a_desktop_profiler_and_Calam.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/05/Debian_based_Q4OS_5_6_arrives_with_a_desktop_profiler_and_Calam.gmi 
[10:29]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Debian-based Q4OS 5.6 arrives with a desktop profiler and Calamares improvements
[10:30]	TR News	Freedom of Information: "Press freedom advocates say the proposed changes are worrying given authorities monthslong denial of accreditation" https://cpj.org/2024/09/cpj-concerned-by-kazakhstans-restrictive-new-media-accreditation/ | Source: CPJ
[10:30]	TR Bot	 CPJ concerned by Kazakhstans restrictive new media accreditation - Committee to Protect Journalists
[10:33]	TR News	"As voters prepare to cast their ballots this fall, China has been making its own plans" https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2024/0904/china-Spamouflage-US-elections | Source: CS Monitor
[10:33]	TR Bot	politics: Chinese Spamouflage accounts spread disinformation to voters - CSMonitor.com
[10:36]	TR News	 (NEW):  linux, year one https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/05/linux_year_one.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/05/linux_year_one.gmi 
[10:36]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines linux, year one
[10:36]	TR News	"After news broke on Tuesday that the US Justice Department issued Nvidia a subpoena as part of an antitrust investigation" https://www.vox.com/artificial-intelligence/369974/nvidia-stock-chip-nasdaq-ai-tech-meta-microsoft-jensen-huang-doj | Source: Vox
[10:36]	TR Bot	historic stock losses, explained | Vox
[10:36]	TR News	"Silicon Valley hype presented the digital economy as a source of dynamic growth as well as a liberating force for workers" https://jacobin.com/2024/09/big-tech-economic-stagnation-exploitation/ | Source: Jacobin Magazine
[10:36]	TR Bot	 The Rise of Big Tech Is Generating Economic Stagnation
[10:37]	TR News	"The ESTA programme in the US always felt weird." https://rubenerd.com/japans-new-entry-system-for-foreign-travellers/ | Source: Ruben Schade
[10:37]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Rubenerd
[10:44]	TR News	"RationalWiki faces a current legal situation raising long-term questions." https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/RationalWiki:Fundraiser | Source: RationalWiki
[10:44]	TR Bot	 RationalWiki:Fundraiser - RationalWiki
[10:45]	TR News	"At the beginning of August, Nassim Haramein sued RationalWiki on charges of defamation, conspiracy, and invasion of privacy." https://pxlnv.com/linklog/rationalwiki-has-been-sued/ | Source: Nick Heer
[10:45]	TR Bot	 RationalWiki Is Being Sued Pixel Envy
[10:46]	TR News	"The Commission expressed hopes that the incident would be a first step towards a productive relationship" https://www.theregister.com/2024/09/04/telegram_south_korea_deepfake_apology/ | Source: The Register UK
[10:46]	TR Bot	 Telegram apologizes to South Korea and takes down deepfakes The Register
[10:46]	TR News	"In a press release, the Stockholm-based company said that, following negotiations with employee representatives" https://yle.fi/a/74-20109313?origin=rss | Source: YLE
[10:46]	TR Bot	 Telia plans 500 job cuts in Finland | Yle News | Yle
[10:50]	TR News	"near 60% decline in the companys shares" https://techcentral.co.za/intel-could-soon-be-kicked-off-dow-jones/251034/ | Source: Tech Central (South Africa)
[10:50]	TR Bot	 Intel could soon be kicked off the Dow Jones - TechCentral
● Sep 05
[11:02]	TR News	"Now, researchers have precisely determined the frequency of the light needed to set off that jump." https://www.sciencenews.org/article/nuclear-clock-ultraprecise-timekeeping | Source: Science News
[11:02]	TR Bot	 A nuclear clock prototype hints at ultraprecise timekeeping
[11:02]	TR News	"In our newly published study, we found that more than 40% of cats described in our survey data played fetch" https://www.sciencealert.com/a-surprising-number-of-cats-want-you-to-play-fetch-with-them | Source: Science Alert
[11:02]	TR Bot	Surprising Number of Cats Want You to Play Fetch With Them : ScienceAlert
[11:05]	eidolon	https://www.biometricupdate.com/202409/us-wants-eu-members-to-give-access-to-travelers-biometric-data-by-2027
[11:05]	TR Bot	 US wants EU members to give access to travelers biometric data by 2027 | Biometric Update
[11:10]	TR News	">The results? According to the Economist" https://pxlnv.com/linklog/big-cars-kill/ | Source: Nick Heer
[11:10]	TR Bot	 The Economist: Big, Heavy Cars Are Killing More People Pixel Envy
[11:13]	TR News	"In a portent of things to come, residents of Lake Charles, Louisiana, are still on the move four years after Hurricane Laura." https://www.truthdig.com/articles/can-the-us-census-keep-up-with-climate-displacement/ | Source: Truthdig
[11:13]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.truthdig.com/articles/can-the-us-census-keep-up-with-climate-displacement/ )
[11:13]	TR News	"I've had other close encounters with multiple hurricanes and other tornados as well as a close call or two when hiking and camping" https://louplummer.lol/everyone-talks-about-the-weather/ | Source: Lou Plummer
[11:13]	TR Bot	 Everyone Talks About the Weather | Living Out Loud
[11:15]	eidolon	https://www.reuters.com/technology/artificial-intelligence/us-britain-eu-sign-agreement-ai-standards-ft-reports-2024-09-05/
[11:15]	TR Bot	( status 401 @ https://www.reuters.com/technology/artificial-intelligence/us-britain-eu-sign-agreement-ai-standards-ft-reports-2024-09-05/ )
[11:16]	eidolon	https://archive.today/csiKs
[11:16]	TR Bot	 US, Britain and Brussels to sign agreement on AI standards
[11:17]	eidolon	Financial Times source
[11:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	hey h
[11:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	let's make some rules
[11:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	"hi, nice to meet you"
[11:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	"u too"
[11:19]	schestowitz[TR2]	"was ist hey hi?"
[11:19]	eidolon	hi hello
[11:19]	schestowitz[TR2]	"ist gut"
[11:19]	schestowitz[TR2]	computer algorithms
[11:19]	schestowitz[TR2]	"cool, nu stuff!!"
[11:19]	schestowitz[TR2]	"let's make rules, kkkmay?"
[11:19]	schestowitz[TR2]	"sure"
[11:19]	schestowitz[TR2]	"for the hey hi"
[11:19]	schestowitz[TR2]	what a circus
[11:19]	schestowitz[TR2]	https://techrights.org/n/2024/08/16/Clown_Computing.shtml
[11:19]	TR Bot	 Techrights Clown Computing
[11:22]	TR News	"Metas Oversight Board, an independent collection of academics" https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2024/09/04/meta-israel-gaza-river-to-sea-hate-speech/ | Source: The Washington Post
[11:22]	TR Bot	stream 1 was not closed cleanly: INTERNAL_ERROR (err 2) ( status 0 @ https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2024/09/04/meta-israel-gaza-river-to-sea-hate-speech/ )
[11:22]	TR News	So hamasman can now create an account in Facebook and spout out her antisemitic drivel; if she can still type....
[11:23]	TR News	"media company linked to six conservative influencers" https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2024-09-04/right-wing-influencers-were-duped-to-work-for-covert-russian-influence-operation-us-says | Source: US News And World Report
[11:23]	TR Bot	stream 1 was not closed cleanly: INTERNAL_ERROR (err 2) ( status 0 @ https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2024-09-04/right-wing-influencers-were-duped-to-work-for-covert-russian-influence-operation-us-says )
[11:24]	eidolon	https://english.radio.cz/unprecedented-bomb-threats-disrupt-czech-schools-start-school-year-8827747
[11:24]	TR Bot	 Unprecedented bomb threats disrupt Czech schools at start of school year | Radio Prague International
[11:24]	TR News	"The campaign targeted specific populations and regions in the U.S. with content designed to inflame tensions" https://therecord.media/doj-seizes-russian-disinfo-domains-election | Source: The Record <li>
[11:24]	TR Bot	 DOJ seizes dozens of domains used in Russian influence campaigns targeting swing states
[11:25]	schestowitz[TR2]	lxo: ^
[11:25]	schestowitz[TR2]	apropos earlier powwow
[11:25]	schestowitz[TR2]	in the future they can revoke certs first
[11:25]	eidolon	https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-disrupts-covert-russian-government-sponsored-foreign-malign-influence
[11:25]	schestowitz[TR2]	or only
[11:25]	TR Bot	 Office of Public Affairs | Justice Department Disrupts Covert Russian Government-Sponsored Foreign Malign Influence Operation Targeting Audiences in the United States and Elsewhere | United States Department of Justice
[11:25]	schestowitz[TR2]	faster ban
[11:26]	TR News	"The Justice Department indicted Kostiantyn Kalashnikov, 31, and Elena Afanasyeva" https://therecord.media/us-indicts-rt-employees-disinformation | Source: The Record
[11:26]	TR Bot	 US indicts two RT employees for alleged Russian disinformation effort
[11:27]	TR News	"TikTok probably cant teach you to game the financial system like a rich person, but it might teach you crime." https://www.vox.com/money/369894/chase-bank-glitch-tiktok-fraud-free-money | Source: Vox
[11:27]	TR Bot	Chase money glitch hack on Tiktok was just fraud | Vox
[11:30]	TR News	"The service has been working with the intelligence community to develop satellites that can perform the ground moving" https://www.c4isrnet.com/space/2024/09/04/space-force-to-field-sensors-for-tracking-air-ground-targets-in-2030s/ | Source: C4ISRNET
[11:30]	TR Bot	 Space Force to field sensors for tracking air, ground targets in 2030s
[11:31]	TR News	"The efforts come as TikTok warily acknowledges that it has become a much bigger news [sic]" https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/04/business/tiktok-vote-election.html | Source: New York Times
[11:31]	TR Bot	 TikTok Expands its Election Resources Ahead of November - The New York Times
[11:38]	TR News	"This latest incident came two years after a similar ISWAP attack in Abuja, Nigeria" https://www.defenceweb.co.za/african-news/growing-danger-of-terrorist-jailbreaks-in-west-africa/ | Source: Defence Web
[11:38]	TR Bot	 Growing danger of terrorist jailbreaks in West Africa - defenceWeb
[11:38]	TR News	"The reported presence of multiple high-level leaders in Somalia and across Africa reflects Africas increasingly focal" https://adf-magazine.com/2024/09/islamic-states-resurgence-threatens-somalia/ | Source: ADF
[11:38]	TR Bot	 Islamic States Resurgence Threatens Somalia - Africa Defense Forum
[11:42]	TR News	"Telehealth and remote patient monitoring solutions enable healthcare providers to deliver care beyond traditional" https://goteleport.com/blog/securing-infrastructure-in-healthcare/ | Source: Teleport
[11:42]	TR Bot	 Securing Infrastructure in Healthcare: Reducing Breaches and Building
[11:42]	TR News	"Over the past few months, weve attended a number of conferences." https://sequoia-pgp.org/blog/2024/09/04/202409-out-and-about/ | Source: SequoiaPGP
[11:42]	TR Bot	 Blog - Sequoia PGP: Out and About
[11:45]	TR News	"Europes Data Protection Commission (DPC) formally closed proceedings against X on Wednesday" https://therecord.media/europe-data-privacy-watchdog-case-closed | Source: The Record
[11:45]	TR Bot	 European data privacy watchdog closes case against X over its Grok AI bot
[11:46]	TR News	"The negative feedback that came crashing down on Windows Recall apparently hasnt gotten through to Microsoft" https://www.pcworld.com/article/2447369/recall-2-microsoft-plans-another-ai-feature-that-reads-everything.html | Source: PC World http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2024/06/is-microsoft-trying-to-commit-.html
[11:46]	TR Bot	2.0? Microsoft plans another AI feature that scans everything | PCWorld
[11:46]	TR Bot	 Is Microsoft trying to commit suicide? - Charlie's Diary
[11:46]	TR News	"Under Settings, there's also a new Labs page, which lets you enable experimental features." https://www.theregister.com/2024/09/04/firefox_130_release/ | Source: The Register UK
[11:46]	TR Bot	 Firefox 130 lands with a yawn, but 131 teases a key upgrade The Register
[11:48]	eidolon	> Firefox now allows translating selected text portions to different languages after a full-page translation.
[11:48]	eidolon	Sort of like edbrowse(1) and pipes? 
[11:48]	eidolon	:D
[11:49]	eidolon	Yeah that was some yawn.
[11:49]	TR News	 (NEW):  Firefox 131 Beta Improves Translations, Adds Temporary Site Permissions https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/03/Firefox_131_Beta_Improves_Translations_Adds_Temporary_Site_Perm.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/03/Firefox_131_Beta_Improves_Translations_Adds_Temporary_Site_Perm.gmi 
[11:49]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Firefox 131 Beta Improves Translations, Adds Temporary Site Permissions
[11:49]	TR News	Surveillance https://www.pcworld.com/article/2447752/firefox-130-brings-a-few-ai-features-including-integrated-chatbots.html | Source: PC World
[11:49]	TR Bot	130 brings a few AI features, including integrated chatbots | PCWorld
[11:49]	eidolon	And hi hello
[11:49]	eidolon	picture-in-picture
[11:50]	TR News	"Travelling to Japan as a tourist has been a breeze for visitors from 71 visa-exempt countries and regions" https://soranews24.com/2024/08/29/japan-set-to-introduce-new-entry-system-for-foreign-tourists/ | Source: Sora News 24
[11:50]	TR Bot	set to introduce new entry system for foreign tourists | SoraNews24 -Japan News-
[11:50]	TR News	"Teslas vehicles carry more cameras than most." https://www.techdirt.com/2024/09/03/cops-are-starting-to-tow-away-teslas-to-secure-recordings-captured-by-the-cars-cameras/ | Source: Techdirt
[11:50]	TR Bot	Are Starting To Tow Away Teslas To Secure Recordings Captured By The Cars Cameras | Techdirt
[11:51]	TR News	"The Netherlands' Data Protection Agency, or DPA, also warned Dutch companies that using Clearview's services" https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/clearview-ai-netherlands-1.7311631?cmp=rss | Source: CBC
[11:51]	TR Bot	 Clearview AI faces $45.6M fine in the Netherlands for 'illegal database' of faces | CBC News
[11:56]	eidolon	'Sentry Mode'
[11:59]	TR News	 (NEW):  LicheePi 3A A SpacemIT K1 RISC-V development board with SoM and carrier board https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/05/LicheePi_3A_A_SpacemIT_K1_RISC_V_development_board_with_SoM_and.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/05/LicheePi_3A_A_SpacemIT_K1_RISC_V_development_board_with_SoM_and.gmi 
[11:59]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines LicheePi 3A A SpacemIT K1 RISC-V development board with SoM and carrier board
● Sep 05
[12:00]	TR News	"The cybersecurity industry has long proposed RPKI as a solution for securing BGP routing and significant progress" https://www.securityweek.com/white-house-outlines-plan-for-addressing-bgp-vulnerabilities/ | Source: Security Week
[12:00]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.securityweek.com/white-house-outlines-plan-for-addressing-bgp-vulnerabilities/ )
[12:00]	TR News	"YubiKey security keys can be cloned using a side-channel attack that leverages a vulnerability" https://www.securityweek.com/crypto-vulnerability-allows-cloning-of-yubikey-security-keys/ | Source: Security Week
[12:00]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.securityweek.com/crypto-vulnerability-allows-cloning-of-yubikey-security-keys/ )
[12:03]	TR News	Windows TCO: "Cicada shares other characteristics with BlackCat" https://www.theregister.com/2024/09/04/cicada_ransomware_blackcat_links/ | Source: The Register UK
[12:03]	TR Bot	 Cicada ransomware may be a BlackCat/ALPHV rebrand The Register
[12:03]	TR News	Windows TCO: "This comes as ransomware crew RansomHub boasted it had broken into the nonprofit" https://www.theregister.com/2024/09/04/planned_parenthood_cybersecurity_incident/ | Source: The Register UK
[12:03]	TR Bot	 Planned Parenthood scrambles to repair IT after cyber-attack The Register
[12:04]	TR News	Windows TCO: "According to the citys complaint against Ross (PDF)" https://www.securityweek.com/city-of-columbus-sues-researcher-who-disclosed-impact-of-ransomware-attack/ | Source: Security Week
[12:04]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.securityweek.com/city-of-columbus-sues-researcher-who-disclosed-impact-of-ransomware-attack/ )
[12:04]	TR News	Windows TCO: "Goodwolf has also been critical of the city in interviews with WOSU." https://wysu.org/ohio-news/2024-08-29/columbus-seeks-restraining-order-to-block-cybersecurity-expert-from-releasing-data-from-hack |
[12:04]	TR Bot	 Columbus gets restraining order to block cybersecurity expert from releasing data hack information
[12:04]	TR News	Windows TCO: "Klein did not say whether Goodwolf's work is what ultimately led the city to discover what was leaked to the dark" https://www.wosu.org/politics-government/2024-08-29/columbus-seeks-restraining-order-to-block-cybersecurity-expert-from-releasing-data-from-hack |
[12:04]	TR Bot	 Columbus gets restraining order to block cybersecurity expert from releasing data hack information | WOSU Public Media
[12:06]	TR News	"This is similar to plagiarism checkers that have been around for a few decades." https://www.techdirt.com/2024/09/04/ai-checkers-forcing-kids-to-write-like-a-robot-to-avoid-being-called-a-robot/ | Source: Techdirt
[12:06]	TR Bot	Checkers Forcing Kids To Write Like A Robot To Avoid Being Called A Robot | Techdirt
[12:06]	TR News	"He further wrote that each Bot Account could stream approximately 636 songs per day" https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2024/09/04/music-streaming-fraud-indictment-september-2024/ | Source: Digital Music News
[12:06]	TR Bot	( status 520 @ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2024/09/04/music-streaming-fraud-indictment-september-2024/ )
[12:07]	TR News	"Elon Musk's X (formerly Twitter) has brought the world's most powerful training system online." https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intelligence/xai-colossus-supercomputer-with-100k-h100-gpus-comes-online-musk-lays-out-plans-to-double-gpu-count-to-200k-with-50k-h100-and-50k-h200 | Source: Tom's Hardware
[12:07]	TR Bot	 xAI Colossus supercomputer with 100K H100 GPUs comes online Musk lays out plans to double GPU count to 200K with 50K H100 and 50K H200 | Tom's Hardware
[12:07]	TR News	"It does far less to explain Musks history of doing that very thing in other countries" https://www.theverge.com/2024/9/4/24235213/x-brazil-suppression-speech-elon-musk-india-turkey | Source: The Verge
[12:07]	TR Bot	 Despite free speech claims, X has suppressed content on behalf of Turkey and India - The Verge
[12:07]	TR News	"The appeals court has now overturned this decision." https://www.theverge.com/2024/9/4/24236180/x-wins-block-california-content-moderation-law-ab-587 | Source: The Verge
[12:07]	TR Bot	 X wins block on part of Californias content moderation law - The Verge
[12:08]	TR News	"Alaska soldier was arrested last month on charges related to possessing child sexual abuse material" https://taskandpurpose.com/news/ai-explicit-material-soldier-alaska/ | Source: Task And Purpose
[12:08]	TR Bot	 Soldier's arrest highlights issue of AI-created explicit material
[12:09]	TR News	"But this is not the computer I use the most. For 8 hours a day, I am forced to macOS." https://michal.sapka.me/blog/2024/multi-os-life/ | Source: Micha Sapka http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/08/21/Good_Reason_to_Delete_Windows_Not_Dual_Boot_and_Call_Out_the_Mi.shtml
[12:09]	TR Bot	 Multi OS life is terrible
[12:09]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Good Reason to Delete Windows, Not Dual-Boot, and Call Out the Microsofters Who Worked to Impose 'Secure' Boot, Undermining Antitrust Complaints
[12:09]	TR News	"Starlink had previously informed Brazil's regulator that it would not obey the order, according to local media." https://www.theregister.com/2024/09/04/starlink_performs_a_180_and/ | Source: The Register UK
[12:09]	TR Bot	 Starlink does a 180, decides to block X in Brazil after all The Register
[12:09]	schestowitz[TR2]	lxo: ^
[12:09]	schestowitz[TR2]	polict chaange
[12:09]	schestowitz[TR2]	*policy change
[12:09]	TR News	"In a statement posted on X, Starlink said it will heed Justice Alexandre de Moraes' order" https://www.voanews.com/a/musk-s-starlink-will-comply-with-judge-s-order-to-block-x-in-brazil-/7770271.html | Source: VOA News
[12:10]	TR Bot	 Musk's Starlink will comply with judge's order to block X in Brazil
[12:10]	eidolon	The prosecutor argued that solider was a flight risk. Since he already demonstrated he could use 'AI', he might use it to construct fake passports and IDs.
[12:10]	eidolon	This could apply to anyone.
[12:10]	eidolon	s/solider/soldier
[12:10]	TR News	"accuses Brazil's top judge" https://www.axios.com/2024/09/03/brazil-x-ban-elon-musk-supreme-court says Melon, who is fronting for terrorists who don't even hold elections https://techrights.org/n/2024/07/21/Meme_Hate_Speech.shtml
[12:10]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.axios.com/2024/09/03/brazil-x-ban-elon-musk-supreme-court )
[12:10]	TR Bot	 Techrights [Meme] Hate Speech
[12:11]	TR News	 (NEW):  Windows TCO: Cicada, Planned Parenthood, City of Columbus, and More https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/05/Windows_TCO_Cicada_Planned_Parenthood_City_of_Columbus_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/05/Windows_TCO_Cicada_Planned_Parenthood_City_of_Columbus_and_More.gmi 
[12:11]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Windows TCO: Cicada, Planned Parenthood, City of Columbus, and More
[12:12]	schestowitz[TR2]	eidolon: the hey hi
[12:12]	schestowitz[TR2]	it kills everything
[12:12]	schestowitz[TR2]	like the blob
[12:12]	schestowitz[TR2]	or the thing
[12:12]	schestowitz[TR2]	you cannot trust it
[12:12]	schestowitz[TR2]	the hey hi will eat anything in its path
[12:12]		*schestowitz[TR2] slams gavel
[12:12]	schestowitz[TR2]	computers!
[12:13]	schestowitz[TR2]	they make outputs!!
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[12:15]	eidolon	Court rules the defendant remanded into custody on account of he might use the outputs to get outta town(tm).
[12:15]	eidolon	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=QpvShqLjZpI
[12:15]	TR Bot	 Fletch, Get Outta Town - Invidious
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[12:20]	schestowitz[TR2]	just finished our first batch of sushi
[12:20]	schestowitz[TR2]	there will be about 50 pieces
[12:22]	TR News	"Insects that provide the crucial service of pollination are declining en masse" https://www.sciencealert.com/60-of-earths-food-crops-arent-being-visited-by-enough-pollinators | Source: Science Alert
[12:22]	TR Bot	of Earth's Food Crops Aren't Being Visited by Enough Pollinators : ScienceAlert
[12:22]	TR News	"Laufer is the chief spokesperson of Four Thieves Vinegar Collective" https://www.404media.co/right-to-repair-for-your-body-the-rise-of-diy-pirated-medicine/ | Source: 404 Media
[12:22]	TR Bot	 Right to Repair for Your Body: The Rise of DIY, Pirated Medicine
[12:22]	TR News	"And hence pop culture nudges people to extreme, simplistic solutions to the complexities of life and human relationships." https://derekkedziora.com/notes/2024-09-04-toxicity | Source: Derek Kdziora
[12:22]	TR Bot	 Toxicity
[12:23]	TR News	"As someone with a cooking background my father has been a chef for 35 years" https://www.vox.com/even-better/369691/kitchen-tips-organization-chef-fridge-tiktok-influencers | Source: Vox
[12:23]	TR Bot	best kitchen organization tips approved by chefs | Vox
[12:23]	TR News	"Besides, anyone who pressures you for not having Snapchat probably doesnt have the greatest intentions." https://www.mlive.com/advice/2024/09/dear-annie-staying-off-snapchat-helped-my-mental-health-as-a-teen.html | Source: Michigan News
[12:23]	TR Bot	Annie: Staying off Snapchat helped my mental health as a teen - mlive.com
[12:25]	TR News	"Headphone jacks." https://rubenerd.com/hardware-features-i-wish-could-come-back/ | Source: Ruben Schade
[12:25]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Rubenerd
[12:25]	TR News	"It looks like everyone's favourite FIDO token provider might have an unpatchable vulnerability!" https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2024/09/some-thoughts-on-the-yubikey-eucleak-vulnerability/ | Source: Terence Eden
[12:25]	TR Bot	 Some thoughts on the YubiKey EUCLEAK Vulnerability Terence Edens Blog
[12:25]	TR News	"Hardware security keys are small devices that plug into a computer or smart phone and provide a strong physical form" https://www.zagaja.com/2024/09/yubikey-digital-seatbelt/ |
[12:25]	TR Bot	 Yubikey is the Digital Seat Belt We Need Today
[12:26]	TR News	"Internet Archives digital lending of books" https://blog.archive.org/2024/09/04/internet-archive-responds-to-appellate-opinion/ | Source: Internet Archive
[12:26]	TR Bot	 Internet Archive Responds to Appellate Opinion in Hachette v. Internet Archive | Internet Archive Blogs
[12:35]	TR News	"On August 10th, the popular learning platform "Moodle" released an update fixing CVE-2024-43425." https://isc.sans.edu/diary/rss/31230 | Source: SANS
[12:35]	TR Bot	 Scans for Moodle Learning Platform Following Recent Update - SANS Internet Storm Center
[12:37]	TR News	"An elderly woman in Romania was using a seven-pound rock as a doorstop for decades" https://futurism.com/the-byte/elderly-woman-doorstop-million-dollars-amber | Source: Futurism
[12:37]	TR Bot	 Elderly Woman Never Realized Her Doorstop Was Worth More Than a Million Dollars
[12:37]	TR News	"The extraordinary fossil resin caught the eye of a relative of the homeowner" https://english.elpais.com/international/2024-09-03/elderly-romanian-woman-used-amber-nugget-worth-over-1-million-as-a-doorstop-for-decades.html | Source: El Pas
[12:37]	TR Bot	 Elderly Romanian woman used amber nugget worth over $1 million as a doorstop for decades | International | EL PAS English
[12:38]	TR News	"Observations: The hot dog did, indeed, produce copious noise through plasma-air interaction" https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2024/rf-safety-experiments-meat-pickles-demonstrate-foldback | Source: Jeff Geerling
[12:38]	TR Bot	 RF safety experiments - Meat & Pickles demonstrate foldback | Jeff Geerling
[12:40]	TR News	"Of course, it's good and even necessary to plan certain things in advance." https://birming.com/unforeseen/ | Source: Robert Birming
[12:40]	TR Bot	Unforeseen | Robert Birming
[12:46]	TR News	"how conservatives self-mythologize" https://pluralistic.net/2024/09/04/deferred-gratification/#selective-foresight | Source: CoryDoctorow
[12:46]	TR Bot	 Pluralistic: Marshmallow Longtermism (04 Sep 2024) Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow
[12:46]	TR News	"But the fact is that for example, last month when I wrote about Pythons standard library" https://hamatti.org/posts/whats-up-with-blogging-challenges/ | Source: Juha-Matti Santala
[12:46]	TR Bot	 Whats up with blogging challenges? : Juha-Matti Santala
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[12:49]	TR News	 (NEW):  Latest From Red Hat's Site https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/05/Latest_From_Red_Hat_s_Site.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/05/Latest_From_Red_Hat_s_Site.gmi 
[12:49]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Latest From Red Hat's Site
[12:52]	TR News	"Anyway, CoPilot+ is also a play by Microsoft to sell Windows on ARM. Microsoft don't want to be entirely dependent on Intel, especially as Intel's share of the global microprocessor market is rapidly shrinking, so they've been trying to boost Windows on ARM to orbital velocity for a decade now." http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2024/06/is-microsoft-trying-to-commit-.html
[12:52]	TR Bot	 Is Microsoft trying to commit suicide? - Charlie's Diary
[12:53]	TR News	 (NEW):  Arti 1.2.7 is released: onion services, RPC, and more https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/05/Arti_1_2_7_is_released_onion_services_RPC_and_more.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/05/Arti_1_2_7_is_released_onion_services_RPC_and_more.gmi 
[12:53]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Arti 1.2.7 is released: onion services, RPC, and more
[12:56]	TR News	 (NEW):  MIKRIK V2 Robot Car is an entry-level, open-source robotics kit built for ROS and 3D computer vision https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/05/MIKRIK_V2_Robot_Car_is_an_entry_level_open_source_robotics_kit_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/05/MIKRIK_V2_Robot_Car_is_an_entry_level_open_source_robotics_kit_.gmi 
[12:56]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines MIKRIK V2 Robot Car is an entry-level, open-source robotics kit built for ROS and 3D computer vision
[12:57]	TR News	Techrights Links 05/09/2024: Apple Misleads UK Regulators, Microsoft Tries to Ignore Backlash Against Windows Ingrained CCTV https://techrights.org/n/2024/09/05/Links_05_09_2024_Apple_Misleads_UK_Regulators_Microsoft_Tries_t.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/09/05/Links_05_09_2024_Apple_Misleads_UK_Regulators_Microsoft_Tries_t.gmi 
[12:57]	TR Bot	 Techrights Links 05/09/2024: Apple Misleads UK Regulators, Microsoft Tries to Ignore Backlash Against Windows Ingrained CCTV
● Sep 05
[13:08]	eidolon	https://therecord.media/tewkesbury-borough-council-near-gchq-cyberattack
[13:08]	TR Bot	 Services disrupted as local council near GCHQs headquarters hit by cyberattack
[13:14]	eidolon	https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2024/09/long-analysis-of-the-m-209.html
[13:14]	TR Bot	Analysis of the M-209 - Schneier on Security
[13:16]	eidolon	https://www.cryptomuseum.com/news/index.htm#virtual_m209
[13:16]	TR Bot	 News
[13:18]	TR News	 (NEW):   : Google Android Leftovers https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/05/Android_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/05/Android_Leftovers.gmi 
[13:18]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Android Leftovers
[13:18]	TR News	"Our August has been packed with ESR fixes, team conferences, and some personal time off" https://blog.thunderbird.net/2024/09/thunderbird-monthly-developer-digest-august-2024/ | Source: Thunderbird
[13:18]	TR Bot	 Thunderbird Monthly Development Digest: August 2024 - The Thunderbird Blog
[13:19]	TR News	"The end of August saw two new point upgrades for Debian fans." https://www.theregister.com/2024/09/04/double_debian_update/ | Source: The Register UK
[13:19]	TR Bot	 Double Debian update: 11.11 and 12.7 arrive at once The Register
[13:21]	TR News	"I read this last week, but its awesome news! The FreeBSD Foundation: [...]" https://rubenerd.com/germanys-sovereign-tech-fund-invests-in-freebsd/ | Source: Ruben Schade
[13:21]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Rubenerd
[13:22]	eidolon	https://www.theregister.com/2024/09/04/fcc_kaspersky_ban/?td=rt-3a
[13:22]	TR Bot	 FCC finally gets around to banning Kaspersky from telco kit The Register
[13:22]	TR News	"Moodle is a popular open-source platform used by educational institutions worldwide for creating online courses" https://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-install-moodle-lms-on-ubuntu-24-04-server/ | Source: HowTo Forge
[13:22]	TR Bot	 How to Install Moodle LMS on Ubuntu 24.04 Server
[13:22]	schestowitz[TR2]	"not our back doors!!"
[13:22]	schestowitz[TR2]	"only ours are permitted"
[13:23]	TR News	Open Access https://walledculture.org/another-sign-that-gold-open-access-was-a-mistake-and-that-diamond-open-access-is-the-future/ | Source: Walled Culture
[13:23]	TR Bot	stream 1 was not closed cleanly: PROTOCOL_ERROR (err 1) ( status 0 @ https://walledculture.org/another-sign-that-gold-open-access-was-a-mistake-and-that-diamond-open-access-is-the-future/ )
[13:25]	TR News	"you can override this default behavior by specifying the breaks argument." https://www.r-bloggers.com/2024/09/how-to-specify-histogram-breaks-in-r/ | Source: Rlang
[13:25]	TR Bot	to Specify Histogram Breaks in R | R-bloggers
[13:25]	TR News	"put more simply, if you want call someone on the web, WebRTC tells you how you can transfer audio, video and data" https://arunraghavan.net/2024/09/gstreamer-and-webrtc-http-signalling/ | Source: Arun Raghavan
[13:25]	TR Bot	 GStreamer and WebRTC HTTP signalling Arun Raghavan
[13:26]	TR News	"Today, we are going to talk about when and why structs should have constructors if they should have them at all." https://www.sandordargo.com/blog/2024/09/04/structs-and-constructors | Source: Sandor Dargo
[13:26]	TR Bot	 Structs and constructors | Sandor Dargo's Blog
[13:26]	TR News	"Suppose youre working in C using one of the major toolchains that is" https://nullprogram.com/blog/2024/09/04/ | Source: Chris Wellons
[13:26]	TR Bot	 Giving C++ std::regex a C makeover
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[13:30]	eidolon	https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/05/nyregion/nc-man-charged-ai-fake-music.html
[13:30]	TR Bot	 North Carolina Man Charged With Using AI to Win Music Royalties - The New York Times
[13:31]	TR News	"please stop releasing major security updates and backward incompatible changes" https://micro.webology.dev/2024/09/03/stop-scheduling-security.html | Source: Jeff Triplett
[13:31]	TR Bot	 Stop scheduling security updates and deprecating major features over holidays - Jeff Triplett's Micro.blog
[13:31]	TR News	"If you're trying to learn Zig in 2024, one key ingredient is still interacting with the Zig community." https://kristoff.it/blog/zig-day/ | Source: Loris Cro
[13:31]	TR Bot	 Zig Day | Loris Cro's Blog
[13:32]	TR News	"Precision timekeeping is the core innovation that enabled the rise of global navigation satellite systems (GNSS)" https://www.wired.com/story/moon-gps-is-coming-nasa-jaxa-esa-glonass-galileo/ | Source: Wired
[13:32]	TR Bot	GPS Is Coming | WIRED
[13:33]	eidolon	There was a blog post yesterday talking about adding a '.' to the end of a domain to bypass the paywall of a certain news site. That was the NYTimes.
[13:33]	eidolon	It also goes spread-eagled for a googlebot ua.
[13:34]	schestowitz[TR2]	https://yewtu.be/channel/UCOSowhwaVFYexQi47-WflDQ
[13:34]	TR Bot	 EnnioMorriconeVEVO - Invidious
[13:34]	schestowitz[TR2]	works OK today
[13:35]	schestowitz[TR2]	e.g. https://yewtu.be/watch?v=9ZqZ3is9tpk
[13:35]	TR Bot	 Ennio Morricone - Sergio Leone Greatest Western Music of All Time (Remastered HQ Audio) - Invidious
[13:36]	TR News	"How many zips could a file manager zip if a file manager could zip some zips?" https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/plasma-dolphin-compression.html | Source: Dedoimedo
[13:36]	TR Bot	 KDE Dolphin cannot compress compressed files
[13:36]	TR News	"What I want is the Motif style. Its as cool as it gets - my taste in design is evolving, just backwards." https://michal.sapka.me/blog/2024/fvwm-part-3/ | Source: Micha Sapka
[13:36]	TR Bot	 Fvwm - day 3 (window decoration)
[13:38]	TR News	"Anything other than this is an incorrectly formatted SNI." https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/tech/TLSYourSNIMayBeChanged | Source: University of Toronto
[13:38]	TR Bot	 Chris's Wiki :: blog/tech/TLSYourSNIMayBeChanged
[13:38]	TR News	"This can be useful for multiple use cases, let's see how to use it on Linux and OpenBSD." https://dataswamp.org/~solene/2024-08-31-protonvpn-port-forwarding.html | Source: Data Swamp
[13:38]	TR Bot	 Solene'% : How to use Proton VPN port forwarding
[13:40]	TR News	Thoughts on "The Future of TLA+" https://buttondown.com/hillelwayne/archive/what-could-be-added-to-tla/
[13:40]	TR Bot	on "The Future of TLA+" Buttondown
[13:42]	TR News	Plasma Crash Course - DrKonqi https://kde.haraldsitter.eu/posts/plasma-crash-course-drkonqi/
[13:42]	TR Bot	 Plasma Crash Course - DrKonqi - Harald Sitter's KDE Blog
[13:44]	TR News	Authoritarian countries Hey Hi (AI) advantage https://www.aspistrategist.org.au/authoritarian-countries-ai-advantage/
[13:44]	TR Bot	 Authoritarian countries AI advantage | The Strategist
[13:44]	TR News	MIKRIK V2 Robot Car is an entry-level, open-source robotics kit built for ROS and 3D computer vision https://www.cnx-software.com/2024/09/05/mikrik-v2-robot-car-is-an-entry-level-open-source-robotics-kit-built-for-ros-and-3d-computer-vision/
[13:44]	TR Bot	 MIKRIK V2 Robot Car is an entry-level, open-source robotics kit built for ROS and 3D computer vision - CNX Software
[13:46]	TR News	Samuel Henrique: DebConf24 was fun!: Security, curl, wcurl, Debian's quality https://samueloph.dev/blog/debconf24-was-fun/
[13:46]	TR Bot	 DebConf24 was fun!: Security, curl, wcurl, Debian's quality | Samuel Henrique (samueloph)
[13:53]	TR News	Hamas booster in "journalist" clothing https://pressgazette.co.uk/news/uk-journalists-detention-for-nearly-24-hours-under-terror-law-condemned/
[13:53]	TR Bot	 UK journalist's detention under terror law condemned - Press Gazette
[13:54]	TR News	Journalists will never benefit when terror operatives disguise themselves as "journalists"; they only stand to suffer and become targets
[13:56]	TR News	"Trump says"... that's not journalism either. That's megaphoning a convicted criminal.
[13:58]	TR News	US sanctions Russians over alleged election interference campaign using social control media influencers https://siliconangle.com/2024/09/04/us-sanctions-russians-alleged-election-interference-campaign-using-social-media-influencers/
[13:58]	TR Bot	sanctions Russians over alleged election interference campaign using social media influencers - SiliconANGLE
[13:59]	TR News	Commissioner Ylva Johansson's speech at the exchange of views with the LIBE committee on Hungary's National Card Scheme https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/SPEECH_24_4545
[13:59]	TR Bot	 Press corner | European Commission
● Sep 05
[14:10]	TR News	Techrights GNU/Linux and ChromeOS Still Moving Up in Africa https://techrights.org/n/2024/09/05/GNU_Linux_and_ChromeOS_Still_Moving_Up_in_Africa.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/09/05/GNU_Linux_and_ChromeOS_Still_Moving_Up_in_Africa.gmi 
[14:10]	TR Bot	 Techrights GNU/Linux and ChromeOS Still Moving Up in Africa
[14:11]	TR News	Russia court extends detention of French researcher for breaching foreign agent law https://www.jurist.org/news/2024/09/russia-court-extends-detention-of-french-researcher-for-breaching-foreign-agent-law/
[14:11]	TR Bot	 Russia court extends detention of French researcher for breaching foreign agent law - JURIST - News
[14:12]	TR News	Japan warns of new era of crisis, asks for record defense budget https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/japan-defense-north-korea-china-russia-09042024025738.html
[14:12]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/japan-defense-north-korea-china-russia-09042024025738.html )
[14:17]	TR News	Autopsy Ordered After 'Russian Spy' Whale Found Dead In Norwegian Waters https://www.rferl.org/a/news-russia-norway-beluga-whale-hvaldimir/33105923.html
[14:17]	TR Bot	 Autopsy Ordered After 'Russian Spy' Whale Found Dead In Norwegian Waters
[14:18]	TR News	Air India plane makes another emergency landing in Russia https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/uk-bound-air-india-plane-makes-emergency-landing-in-moscow
[14:18]	TR Bot	 Air India plane makes another emergency landing in Russia | The Straits Times
[14:20]	TR News	As China Buys Less Oil, Angola Struggles to Repay Debt https://adf-magazine.com/2024/09/as-china-buys-less-oil-angola-struggles-to-repay-debt/
[14:20]	TR Bot	 NO TITLE
[14:20]	TR News	Lukashenka Pardons 30 Sentenced For 'Crimes Of Protest' In Belarus https://www.rferl.org/a/lukashenka-amnesty-clemency-protest-belarus/33105484.html
[14:20]	TR Bot	 Lukashenka Pardons 30 Sentenced For 'Crimes Of Protest' In Belarus
[14:22]	TR News	Book Publishers Win at Second Circuit: Internet Archives Free Library is Not Fair Use https://ipwatchdog.com/2024/09/04/book-publishers-win-second-circuit-internet-archives-free-library-not-fair-use/id=180886/
[14:22]	TR Bot	 Book Publishers Win at Second Circuit: Internet Archives Free Library is Not Fair Use
[14:24]	TR News	New LibreOffice Expert 2024/2025 magazines available for schools and local communities https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2024/09/03/new-libreoffice-expert-2024-2025-magazines-available-for-schools-and-local-communities/
[14:24]	TR Bot	 New "LibreOffice Expert 2024/2025" magazines available for schools and local communities - The Document Foundation Blog
[14:25]	TR News	Security updates for Wednesday https://lwn.net/Articles/988746/
[14:25]	TR Bot	updates for Wednesday [LWN.net]
[14:28]	TR News	Sticky Notes simple note taking program https://www.linuxlinks.com/sticky-notes-simple-note-taking-program/
[14:28]	TR Bot	Notes - simple note taking program - LinuxLinks
[14:28]	TR News	pocsuite3 remote vulnerability testing framework https://www.linuxlinks.com/pocsuite3-remote-vulnerability-testing-framework/
[14:28]	TR Bot	- remote vulnerability testing framework - LinuxLinks
[14:29]	TR News	Enter TeX TeX/LaTeX text editor https://www.linuxlinks.com/enter-tex-latex-text-editor/
[14:29]	TR Bot	TeX - TeX/LaTeX text editor - LinuxLinks
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[14:29]	TR News	Viet Nam: GNU/Linux Rises to 7% (Desktops/Laptops), backdoored Windows Falls to 7% (Overall) https://techrights.org/n/2024/09/04/Viet_Nam_GNU_Linux_Rises_to_7_Desktops_Laptops_Windows_Falls_to.shtml
[14:29]	TR Bot	 Techrights Viet Nam: GNU/Linux Rises to 7% (Desktops/Laptops), Windows Falls to 7% (Overall)
[14:30]	TR News	Linux Filesystem Hierarchy: Your Guide to Understanding Its Layout https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/linux-filesystem-hierarchy-your-guide-understanding-its-layout
[14:30]	TR Bot	 Linux Filesystem Hierarchy: Your Guide to Understanding Its Layout | Linux Journal
[14:31]	TR News	OpenSCAP NIST Certified SCAP 1.2 toolkit https://www.linuxlinks.com/openscap-nist-certified-scap-toolkit/
[14:31]	TR Bot	- NIST Certified SCAP 1.2 toolkit - LinuxLinks
[14:32]	TR News	Plasma Desktop Will Soon Ask for Donations http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/News/Plasma-Desktop-Will-Soon-Ask-for-Donations
[14:32]	TR Bot	 Plasma Desktop Will Soon Ask for Donations Linux Magazine
[14:33]	TR News	QEMU 9.1 Released with Better ARM and RISC-V Support https://linuxiac.com/qemu-9-1-released-with-better-arm-and-risc-v-support/
[14:33]	TR Bot	 QEMU 9.1 Released with Better ARM and RISC-V Support
[14:34]	TR News	Ubuntus New Security Center Readies Stable Release https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/09/ubuntus-new-security-center-readies-stable-release
[14:34]	TR Bot	 Ubuntu's New Security Center Readies Stable Release - OMG! Ubuntu
[14:36]	TR News	LicheePi 3A A SpacemIT K1 RISC-V development board with SoM and carrier board https://www.cnx-software.com/2024/09/05/licheepi-3a-a-spacemit-k1-risc-v-development-board-with-som-and-carrier-board/
[14:36]	TR Bot	 LicheePi 3A - A SpacemIT K1 RISC-V development board with SoM and carrier board - CNX Software
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[14:52]	TR News	Arun Raghavan: GStreamer and WebRTC HTTP signalling https://arunraghavan.net/2024/09/gstreamer-and-webrtc-http-signalling/
[14:52]	TR Bot	 GStreamer and WebRTC HTTP signalling Arun Raghavan
[14:53]	TR News	BMG Slapped with Patent Infringement Lawsuit Over Song-Selection Methodology https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2024/09/04/bmg-patent-infringement-song-selection-methodology/
[14:53]	TR Bot	( status 520 @ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2024/09/04/bmg-patent-infringement-song-selection-methodology/ )
[14:55]	TR News	Nope, UPC is not even legal and is operating in violation of constitution; it should just be abolished ASAP and EPO come under investigation for corruption that enabled this https://www.juve-patent.com/cases/initial-judgments-indicate-tendency-of-upc-to-restrict-patents/
[14:55]	TR Bot	 Initial judgments indicate tendency of UPC to restrict patents
[14:55]	TR News	And We're Back to the EPO... Software Patents Flooding a Deeply Crooked System, Piggybacking Buzzwords Like "Hey Hi" (AI) https://techrights.org/n/2024/09/04/And_We_re_Back_to_the_EPO_Software_Patents_Flooding_a_Deeply_Cr.shtml
[14:55]	TR Bot	 Techrights And We're Back to the EPO... Software Patents Flooding a Deeply Crooked System, Piggybacking Buzzwords Like "Hey Hi" (AI)
[14:56]	TR News	BRPTO publishes new workflow for patent monopoly examination in appeal stage https://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2024/09/03/brpto-publishes-new-workflow-for-patent-examination-in-appeal-stage/
[14:56]	TR Bot	 BRPTO publishes new workflow for patent examination in appeal stage - Kluwer Patent Blog
[14:56]	TR News	Hindsight 20/20: Federal Circuit Okays Retroactive Expertise https://patentlyo.com/patent/2024/09/expert-testimony-skilled.html
[14:56]	TR Bot	 Hindsight 20/20: Federal Circuit Okays Retroactive Expertise | Patently-O
[14:56]	TR News	RESTORE Act Leaves District Courts Vulnerable to NPE Abuse https://www.patentprogress.org/2024/09/restore-act-leaves-district-courts-vulnerable-to-npe-abuse/
[14:56]	TR Bot	 RESTORE Act Leaves District Courts Vulnerable to NPE Abuse - Patent Progress
[14:57]	TR News	Failed Disclosure Request Shows the Lingering Threat of Undisclosed Litigation Finance https://www.patentprogress.org/2024/09/failed-disclosure-request-shows-the-lingering-threat-of-undisclosed-litigation-finance/
[14:57]	TR Bot	 Failed Disclosure Request Shows the Lingering Threat of Undisclosed Litigation Finance - Patent Progress
[14:58]	TR News	Central African Republic (CAR): backdoored Windows Becoming Extinct https://techrights.org/n/2024/09/04/Central_African_Republic_CAR_Windows_Becoming_Extinct.shtml
[14:58]	TR Bot	 Techrights Central African Republic (CAR): Windows Becoming Extinct
[14:59]	TR News	Windows Falls From 99% to 5% in Cameroon https://techrights.org/n/2024/09/04/Windows_Falls_From_99_to_5_in_Cameroon.shtml
[14:59]	TR Bot	 Techrights Windows Falls From 99% to 5% in Cameroon
[14:59]	TR News	[Meme] Sorry, No Sorry https://techrights.org/n/2024/09/04/Meme_Sorry_No_Sorry.shtml
[14:59]	TR Bot	 Techrights [Meme] Sorry, No Sorry
[14:59]	TR News	Microsoft backdoored Windows Dives to 10% in Angola (It Used to be 98%) https://techrights.org/n/2024/09/04/Microsoft_Windows_Dives_to_10_in_Angola_It_Used_to_be_98.shtml
[14:59]	TR Bot	 Techrights Microsoft Windows Dives to 10% in Angola (It Used to be 98%)
[14:59]	TR News	Free Software Foundation (FSF) Board: Still a Happy Family https://techrights.org/n/2024/09/04/Free_Software_Foundation_FSF_Board_Still_a_Happy_Family.shtml
[14:59]	TR Bot	 Techrights Free Software Foundation (FSF) Board: Still a Happy Family
[14:59]	TR News	More I.C.B.M. Layoffs (Just Days After 1,000+ Laid Off in China) https://techrights.org/n/2024/09/04/More_IBM_Layoffs_Just_Days_After_1_000_Laid_Off_in_China.shtml
[14:59]	TR Bot	 Techrights More IBM Layoffs (Just Days After 1,000+ Laid Off in China)
● Sep 05
[15:01]	TR News	October Surprise Becomes September Surprise (Windows Will Get Banned in Many Places) https://techrights.org/n/2024/09/04/October_Surprise_Becomes_September_Surprise_Windows_Will_Get_Ba.shtml
[15:01]	TR Bot	 Techrights October Surprise Becomes September Surprise (Windows Will Get Banned in Many Places)
[15:01]	TR News	[Meme] She Had White Hair, But She Was an Awesome Computer Scientist https://techrights.org/n/2024/09/03/Meme_She_Had_White_Hair_But_She_Was_an_Awesome_Computer_Scienti.shtml
[15:01]	TR Bot	 Techrights [Meme] She Had White Hair, But She Was an Awesome Computer Scientist
[15:01]	TR News	[Meme] A New Definition of Authenticity https://techrights.org/n/2024/09/03/Meme_A_New_Definition_of_Authenticity.shtml
[15:01]	TR Bot	 Techrights [Meme] A New Definition of Authenticity
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[15:25]	MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/24073116
[15:25]	TR Bot	 WHOOPSIE
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[15:40]	TR News	SoWhats the deal with Gazas polio vaccination campaign? https://off-guardian.org/2024/09/04/so-whats-the-deal-with-gazas-polio-vaccination-campaign/
[15:40]	TR Bot	 SoWhats the deal with Gazas polio vaccination campaign? OffGuardian
[15:41]	TR News	South Korean Teenagers Detained Over Deepfake Sexual Images https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/03/world/asia/south-korean-teens-deepfake-sex-images.html
[15:41]	TR Bot	 South Korean Teenagers Detained Over Deepfake Sexual Images - The New York Times
[15:41]	TR News	Stigma and criticism follow victims of deepfake content in South Korea https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/stigma-criticism-follows-deepfake-victims-in-south-korea
[15:41]	TR Bot	 Stigma and criticism follow victims of deepfake content in South Korea | The Straits Times
[15:42]	TR News	More young police officers and firefighters in S. Korea quitting over heavy workload, low pay https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/workload-and-low-wages-in-south-korea-push-more-young-police-officers-and-fire-fighters-to-quit
[15:42]	TR Bot	 More young police officers and firefighters in S. Korea quitting over heavy workload, low pay | The Straits Times
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[15:52]	TR News	Reproducible Builds: Reproducible Builds in August 2024 https://reproducible-builds.org/reports/2024-08/
[15:52]	TR Bot	Builds in August 2024 reproducible-builds.org
[15:53]	TR News	OSI's members are about 3% of its funding; it's a corporate front group led by and funded by Microsoft https://opensource.org/blog/members-newsletter-september-2024
[15:53]	TR Bot	 Members Newsletter September 2024 Open Source Initiative
[15:54]	TR News	Veiled Microsoft front group, funded by Microsoft, pretending to represent "Open Source" https://opensource.org/blog/highlights-from-our-participation-at-open-source-congress-2024
[15:54]	TR Bot	 Highlights from our participation at Open Source Congress 2024 Open Source Initiative
[15:54]	TR News	Martin Chulov byline page deleted by Guardian after exit from title https://pressgazette.co.uk/news/martin-chulov-byline-page-deleted-by-guardian-after-exit-from-title/
[15:54]	TR Bot	 Martin Chulov byline page deleted by Guardian after exit from title - Press Gazette
[15:57]	TR News	Why Im Switching to Polars https://www.r-bloggers.com/2024/09/why-im-switching-to-polars/
[15:57]	TR Bot	Im Switching to Polars | R-bloggers
[15:57]	TR News	R-Change Number of Bins in Histogram https://www.r-bloggers.com/2024/09/r-change-number-of-bins-in-histogram/
[15:57]	TR Bot	Number of Bins in Histogram | R-bloggers
[15:57]	TR News	Creating a Histogram of Two Variables in R https://www.r-bloggers.com/2024/09/creating-a-histogram-of-two-variables-in-r/
[15:57]	TR Bot	a Histogram of Two Variables in R | R-bloggers
[15:57]	TR News	Harness the Full Potential of Case-Insensitive Searches with grep() in R https://www.r-bloggers.com/2024/09/harness-the-full-potential-of-case-insensitive-searches-with-grep-in-r/
[15:57]	TR Bot	the Full Potential of Case-Insensitive Searches with grep() in R | R-bloggers
[15:58]	TR News	"Hosted by the 'Linux' Foundation" https://canonical.com//blog/meet-canonical-at-open-source-summit-europe-2024
[15:58]	TR Bot	Canonical at Open Source Summit Europe 2024
[15:58]	TR News	Mika and the Witch's Mountain: Review on GNU/Linux https://boilingsteam.com/mika-and-the-witchs-mountain-review/index.html
[15:58]	TR Bot	 Mika and the Witch's Mountain: Review on Linux
[15:59]	TR News	Docker Desktop 4.34: MSI Installer and NVIDIA Hey Hi (AI) Integration https://linuxiac.com/docker-desktop-4-34-released/
[15:59]	TR Bot	 Docker Desktop 4.34: MSI Installer and NVIDIA AI Integration
● Sep 05
[16:00]	TR News	Call for candidates for the 2024 'Linux' Foundation TAB election https://lwn.net/Articles/988862/ lots of Google staff in there http://techrights.org/o/2023/08/07/lf-technical-advisory-board-2/
[16:00]	TR Bot	for candidates for the 2024 Linux Foundation TAB election [LWN.net]
[16:00]	TR Bot	 Linux Foundation Leadership Team: Technical Advisory Board Now Google-Microsoft Majority
[16:02]	TR News	Red Hat brings its AI-optimized GNU/Linux platform to Dells PowerEdge servers https://siliconangle.com/2024/09/04/red-hat-brings-ai-optimized-linux-platform-dells-poweredge-servers/
[16:02]	TR Bot	Hat brings its AI-optimized Linux platform to Dell's PowerEdge servers - SiliconANGLE
[16:02]	TR News	Android 15 source code pushed to AOSP https://www.cnx-software.com/2024/09/04/android-15-source-code-pushed-to-aosp/
[16:02]	TR Bot	 Android 15 source code pushed to AOSP - CNX Software
[16:03]	ZedHedTed	yayy thank goodness for AOSP
[16:04]	schestowitz[TR2]	so open
[16:04]	ZedHedTed	without it, FOSS phone OSes like grapheneOS would have nothing to use as base
[16:04]	schestowitz[TR2]	like gmail, which comes preloaded on android devices
[16:05]	schestowitz[TR2]	android is not the way to go
[16:05]	schestowitz[TR2]	it's not for getting work done
[16:05]	schestowitz[TR2]	it's fopr people who confuse work with play
[16:05]	schestowitz[TR2]	like scrolling and pinching
[16:06]	TR News	Front group for companies like Microsoft https://openssf.org/blog/2024/09/04/prioritizing-security-key-findings-from-the-openssf-survey-for-financial-institutions/ http://techrights.org/o/2020/10/30/openssf-microsoft/
[16:06]	TR Bot	 Prioritizing Security: Key Findings From The OpenSSF Survey For Financial Institutions Open Source Security Foundation
[16:06]	TR Bot	 With Microsoft in Charge, OpenSSF Seems More Like It's About Back Doors -- Not Real Security -- Inside the Linux Foundation
[16:07]	MinceR	postmarketOS is dying
[16:07]	MinceR	phosh isn't very usable, plasma mobile is worse
[16:07]	TR News	OpenZFS 2.2.6 out, but still controlled by Microsoft proprietary prison, so what "open" is this? Open sore?
[16:07]	MinceR	last time i checked, maemo leste wasn't very usable either
[16:07]	MinceR	but i guess we can use 2 cans connected with string
[16:08]	schestowitz[TR2]	2g got phased out here
[16:08]	schestowitz[TR2]	so most 'feature' phones would not work
[16:08]	schestowitz[TR2]	there are wys to place calls
[16:08]	schestowitz[TR2]	nonetheless
[16:08]	MinceR	"2G" was insecure
[16:08]	schestowitz[TR2]	5G is secure?
[16:08]	schestowitz[TR2]	reams of bloat and lard
[16:09]	schestowitz[TR2]	why believe it has no holes?
[16:09]	schestowitz[TR2]	and loads more
[16:09]	schestowitz[TR2]	with bigger impact?
[16:09]	MinceR	they used homemade crypto algorithms in GSM, it's full of holes
[16:09]	schestowitz[TR2]	because they keep the specs secret?
[16:09]	schestowitz[TR2]	under NDA with their patent pool?
[16:09]	MinceR	afaik it was fixed in UMTS already
[16:10]	schestowitz[TR2]	https://cyberdefensereview.army.mil/Portals/6/CDR%20V5N1%20-%2008_%20Fonyi_WEB.pdf
[16:11]	schestowitz[TR2]	https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1389128622005497
[16:11]	TR Bot	( status 400 @ https://www.sciencedirect.com/unsupported_browser )
[16:11]	schestowitz[TR2]	open-minded
[16:11]	schestowitz[TR2]	but whho funds those papers?
[16:11]	schestowitz[TR2]	and what for?
[16:11]	schestowitz[TR2]	lots of money at stake
[16:15]	TR News	New Version of Power Profiles Daemon Improves AMD Support https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/09/power-profiles-daemon-0-22-in-ubuntu-24-10
[16:15]	TR Bot	 New Version of Power Profiles Daemon Improves AMD Support - OMG! Ubuntu
[16:15]	TR News	Core, Extra, Multilib? Unraveling the Arch GNU/Linux Repositories https://itsfoss.com/arch-linux-repos/
[16:15]	TR Bot	 Core, Extra, Multilib? Understand Arch Linux Repositories
[16:16]	TR News	AAEONs PICO & GENE Boards with defective chip maker Intel Atom x7000RE Processors https://linuxgizmos.com/aaeons-pico-gene-boards-with-intel-atom-x7000re-processors/
[16:16]	TR Bot	( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/aaeons-pico-gene-boards-with-intel-atom-x7000re-processors/ )
[16:16]	TR News	Ubuntu Blog: Meet Canonical at Open Source Summit Europe 2024 https://ubuntu.com//blog/meet-canonical-at-open-source-summit-europe-2024
[16:16]	TR Bot	Canonical at Open Source Summit Europe 2024 | Ubuntu
[16:18]	TR News	Firefox 131 Beta Improves Translations, Adds Temporary Site Permissions https://9to5linux.com/firefox-131-beta-improves-translations-adds-temporary-site-permissions
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[16:18]	TR Bot	131 Beta Improves Translations, Adds Temporary Site Permissions - 9to5Linux
[16:18]	TR News	Audacity 3.6.2 Audio Editor Adds Legacy Effects Section, Fixes Multiple Bugs https://9to5linux.com/audacity-3-6-2-audio-editor-adds-legacy-effects-section-fixes-multiple-bugs
[16:18]	TR Bot	3.6.2 Audio Editor Adds Legacy Effects Section, Fixes Multiple Bugs - 9to5Linux
[16:19]	TR News	Retain icons when switch rox to jwm https://bkhome.org/news/202409/retain-icons-when-switch-rox-to-jwm.html
[16:19]	TR Bot	 Retain icons when switch rox to jwm
[16:25]	MinceR	(cat) https://imgur.com/gallery/8E723dO   =   https://rimgo.pussthecat.org/gallery/8E723dO
[16:25]	TR Bot	few of the cute cats at the shelter - Album on Imgur
[16:25]	TR Bot	 A few of the cute cats at the shelter - rimgo
[16:38]	TR News	FSF Events: Free Software Directory meeting on IRC: Friday, September 6, starting at 12:00 EDT (16:00 UTC) http://www.fsf.org/events/fsd-2024-09-06-irc-1
[16:38]	TR Bot	 Free Software Directory meeting on IRC: Friday, September 6, starting at 12:00 EDT (16:00 UTC) Free Software Foundation Working together for free software
[16:41]	TR News	 (NEW):  Events: FSF, Ubuntu, and Debian https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/05/Events_FSF_Ubuntu_and_Debian.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/05/Events_FSF_Ubuntu_and_Debian.gmi 
[16:41]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Events: FSF, Ubuntu, and Debian
[16:42]	TR News	Pay Careful Attention to How Canonical is Promoting Ubuntu https://techrights.org/n/2024/09/03/Pay_Careful_Attention_to_How_Canonical_is_Promoting_Ubuntu.shtml
[16:42]	TR Bot	 Techrights Pay Careful Attention to How Canonical is Promoting Ubuntu
[16:44]	TR News	Ubuntu Summit 2024: A logo takes flight https://ubuntu.com//blog/ubuntu-summit-2024-a-logo-takes-flight
[16:44]	TR Bot	Summit 2024: A logo takes flight | Ubuntu
[16:45]	TR News	Ubuntu Blog: Meet Canonical at OpenSearchCon 2024 in San Francisco https://ubuntu.com//blog/meet-canonical-at-opensearchcon-2024-in-san-francisco
[16:45]	TR Bot	 NO TITLE
[16:46]	TR News	ORG used to be about privacy, but has clearly been hijacked by immigration lawyers instead https://www.openrightsgroup.org/publications/stop-e-visas-and-digital-windrush-scandal/
[16:46]	TR Bot	 Stop the e-Visa scheme and prevent a digital Windrush scandal | Open Rights Group
[16:48]	TR News	Some FOSS people in the UK used to donate to ORG (before it became something else) and many environmentalists voted Green Party before it became assimilated to Hamas Rebellion (XR)
[16:50]	TR News	Audacity 3.6.2 Released with Scores of Bug Fixes https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/09/audacity-3-6-2-bug-fix-bonanza
[16:50]	TR Bot	 Audacity 3.6.2 Released with Scores of Bug Fixes - OMG! Ubuntu
[16:50]	TR News	OSI is now promoting Microsoft
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[16:51]	TR News	Appi and Flapi icon-free-desktop aware https://bkhome.org/news/202409/appi-and-flapi-icon-free-desktop-aware.html
[16:51]	TR Bot	 Appi and Flapi icon-free-desktop aware
[16:53]	TR News	Taking A Mile https://tedium.co/2024/09/04/open-internet-content-scraping-risks/ "The risk of the open internet is that someone will exploit your well-intentioned openness thoughtlessly. Thats how the internet slowly stops being open."
[16:53]	TR Bot	 The Open Internets Risk: When Everyone Takes Too Much
[16:54]	TR News	Orange-ball menu entries restructured https://bkhome.org/news/202409/orange-ball-menu-entries-restructured.html
[16:54]	TR Bot	 Orange-ball menu entries restructured
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[16:54]	TR News	appi and flapi script path changes https://bkhome.org/news/202409/appi-and-flapi-script-path-changes.html
[16:54]	TR Bot	 appi and flapi script path changes
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[16:56]	TR News	Androids September 2024 Update Patches Exploited Vulnerability https://www.securityweek.com/androids-september-2024-update-patches-exploited-vulnerability/
[16:56]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.securityweek.com/androids-september-2024-update-patches-exploited-vulnerability/ )
[16:56]	TR News	 (NEW):  Barry Kauler on His Distro Development Work https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/05/Barry_Kauler_on_His_Distro_Development_Work.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/05/Barry_Kauler_on_His_Distro_Development_Work.gmi 
[16:56]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Barry Kauler on His Distro Development Work
[16:57]	TR News	Civil society joint statement on the use of surveillance spyware in the EU and beyond https://www.accessnow.org/press-release/civil-society-joint-statement-on-the-use-of-surveillance-spyware-in-the-eu-and-beyond/
[16:57]	TR Bot	 Civil Society Joint Statement on the Use of Surveillance Spyware in the EU and Beyond - Center for Democracy and Technology
[16:58]	TR News	GSoC Final Update https://alcarazzam.dev/posts/gsoc-final-update/ "This is my last update about my GSoC project (Python bindings for KDE Frameworks)."
[16:58]	TR Bot	Final Update | alcarazzam.dev
[16:59]	TR News	Civil society coalition demands EU action against spyware threats https://www.jurist.org/news/2024/09/civil-society-coalition-demands-eu-action-against-spyware-threats/
[16:59]	TR Bot	 Civil society coalition demands EU action against spyware threats - JURIST - News
[16:59]	TR News	Open letter: no deepfakes for democracy https://www.accessnow.org/press-release/open-letter-no-deepfakes-democracy-election-usa-2024/
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[17:01]	TR News	SpellBinding YEIMSTC Wordo: IONIC gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2024-09-05.gmi
[17:02]	TR News	Wolf in the Wood's Gemlog - RogueLife gemini://wolfinthewoods.pollux.casa/gemlog/2024_09_04_Roguelife.gmi
[17:03]	TR News	"Back when I read about the West Marches there was one thing I didn't understand: "There was no regular time: every session was scheduled by the players on the fly."" gemini://alexschroeder.ch/2024-09-05-player-organized
[17:04]	TR News	"It's been quiet as far as podcasting is concerned, but a few days ago we recorded another episode of the Internet Office Hours podcast. We talked about Maps and Mapping. This is our 16th regular episode." gemini://alexschroeder.ch/2024-09-05-ioh
[17:05]	MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/2407310
[17:05]	TR Bot	 WHOOPSIE
[17:05]	TR News	Peaches n Cream and Hummingbird Dreams gemini://midnight.pub/posts/2141
[17:06]	TR News	"Today was pretty uneventful as far as being vegan is concerned, I guess past a point what's strange becomes ordinary, anyways here's what I munched." gemini://midnight.pub/posts/2140
[17:06]	TR News	"I like to use a combination of Brave and Kagi searches" gemini://alexlevi.smol.pub/custom-search-on-ios
[17:08]	MinceR	> on-ios
[17:08]	MinceR	no one cares what you want to do on hypeOS. you'll do what crApple wants you to do and you'll like it!
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[17:24]	TR News	Supreme Court justices join the strike to protest judicial reform bill https://mexiconewsdaily.com/politics/supreme-court-justices-join-the-strike-to-protest-judicial-reform-bill/
[17:24]	TR Bot	 Mexico Supreme Court justices join strike against judicial reform bill
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[17:29]	TR News	BillBC to cut 115 jobs in Nations and Regions editorial and production https://pressgazette.co.uk/news/bbc-to-cut-115-jobs-in-nations-and-regions-editorial-and-production/ http://techrights.org/wiki/BBC/
[17:29]	TR Bot	 BBC to cut 115 jobs in Nations and Regions - Press Gazette
[17:29]	TR Bot	 BBC
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[17:31]	TR News	Vietnamese activist begins 50-day hunger strike https://www.rfa.org/english/news/vietnam/activist-hunger-strike-to-lam-09042024210358.html
[17:31]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.rfa.org/english/news/vietnam/activist-hunger-strike-to-lam-09042024210358.html )
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[17:35]	TR News	Let's Encrypt and Other Certificate Authorities (CAs) Are Not About Security and Privacy https://techrights.org/n/2024/09/04/Let_s_Encrypt_and_Other_Certificate_Authorities_CAs_Are_Not_Abo.shtml
[17:35]	TR Bot	 Techrights Let's Encrypt and Other Certificate Authorities (CAs) Are Not About Security and Privacy
[17:36]	TR News	Advanced forensic techniques for recovering hidden data in wearable devices https://www.pentestpartners.com/security-blog/advanced-forensic-techniques-for-recovering-hidden-data-in-wearable-devices/ "A walk-through of forensic data recovery Detailed example of how to retrieve potentially sensitive deleted data"
[17:36]	TR Bot	 Advanced forensic techniques for recovering hidden data in wearable devices | Pen Test Partners
[17:38]	TR News	"adolescents play online games, engage in social control media" https://edri.org/our-work/age-against-the-machine-the-race-to-make-online-spaces-age-appropriate/
[17:38]	TR Bot	 Age against the machine - European Digital Rights (EDRi)
[17:38]	TR News	Junichi Uekawa: Surveillance Giant Google docs has some tab feature. http://www.netfort.gr.jp/~dancer/diary/daily/2024-Sep-5.html.en#2024-Sep-5-08:08:21
[17:38]	TR Bot	 Google docs has some tab feature.
[17:41]	TR News	Mozilla is GAFAM. JPEG-XL, Google, Rust... Mozilla is a carrier of monopolies, not a response to them
[17:41]	TR News	Terms of Service (TOS) Under Scrutiny - Part XII - Microsoft's Microsoft's Surveillance Arm LinkedIn Grants Itself Licence for Plagiarism, Distortion of Facts https://techrights.org/n/2024/09/04/Terms_of_Service_TOS_Under_Scrutiny_Part_XII_Microsoft_s_Linked.shtml
[17:41]	TR Bot	 Techrights Terms of Service (TOS) Under Scrutiny - Part XII - Microsoft's LinkedIn Grants Itself Licence for Plagiarism, Distortion of Facts
[17:41]	TR News	[Meme] Arnold Explains the Future of Abusive Monopolist Microsoft backdoored Windows to a Bot https://techrights.org/n/2024/09/04/Meme_Arnold_Explains_the_Future_of_Microsoft_Windows_to_a_Bot.shtml
[17:41]	TR Bot	 Techrights [Meme] Arnold Explains the Future of Microsoft Windows to a Bot
[17:42]	TR News	[Meme] Microsoft's Microsoft's Surveillance Arm LinkedIn and Microsoft's proprietary prison GitHub : Fakes, Misinformation, and Plagiarism https://techrights.org/n/2024/09/04/Meme_Microsoft_s_LinkedIn_and_GitHub_Fakes_Misinformation_and_P.shtml
[17:42]	TR Bot	 Techrights [Meme] Microsoft's LinkedIn and GitHub: Fakes, Misinformation, and Plagiarism
[17:43]	TR News	Announcing the 2024 ISIF Asia Grants https://blog.apnic.net/2024/09/04/announcing-the-2024-isif-asia-grants/
[17:43]	TR Bot	 Announcing the 2024 ISIF Asia Grants | APNIC Blog
[17:43]	TR News	Welcome to APNIC 58 https://blog.apnic.net/2024/09/04/welcome-to-apnic-58/
[17:43]	TR Bot	 Welcome to APNIC 58 | APNIC Blog
[17:45]	TR News	Enable NuPhy Field75 volume knob on FreeBSD 14 https://www.tumfatig.net/2024/enable-nuphy-field75-volume-knob-on-freebsd-14/
[17:45]	TR Bot	 TuM'Fatig - Enable NuPhy Field75 volume knob on FreeBSD 14
[17:45]	admfubar	now they no how it fees to be treated like a nothing...  https://www.theregister.com/2024/09/05/att_sues_broadcom_vmware_support/
[17:45]	TR Bot	 AT&T sues Broadcom for breach of VMware support deal The Register
[17:48]	admfubar	and we thought covid was bad!... https://www.tweaktown.com/news/100352/official-microsoft-pc-peripherals-including-ergonomic-keyboards-are-returning-later-this-year/index.html
[17:48]	TR Bot	 Official Microsoft PC peripherals, including ergonomic keyboards, are returning later this year
[17:54]	TR News	Rust says choosing Rust is all about security, but every few weeks or months this keeps happening https://blog.rust-lang.org/2024/09/04/cve-2024-43402.html
[17:54]	TR Bot	 Security advisory for the standard library (CVE-2024-43402) | Rust Blog
[17:54]	schestowitz[TR2]	admfubar: seems false
[17:54]	schestowitz[TR2]	what happened was
[17:54]	schestowitz[TR2]	they killed it
[17:54]	schestowitz[TR2]	like nokia did
[17:54]	schestowitz[TR2]	and got some chinese brand to use the "nokia" brand on some phones
[17:54]	schestowitz[TR2]	in microsoft'c case, some firm might use the logo
[17:55]	schestowitz[TR2]	and say "designed by microsoft"
[17:55]	schestowitz[TR2]	but they are NOT coming back
[17:55]	schestowitz[TR2]	i didn't click
[17:55]	schestowitz[TR2]	but it sounds like misinfo
[17:55]	schestowitz[TR2]	the microsoft products are not coming back
[17:55]	schestowitz[TR2]	this is nostalgia
[17:55]	MinceR	HMD Global is a finnish company
[17:55]	schestowitz[TR2]	http://techrights.org/o/2023/05/02/dying-peripherals-and-products/
[17:55]	TR Bot	 Microsoft's Mass Layoffs Are Killing Many Microsoft Peripherals and Flagship Products
[17:55]	schestowitz[TR2]	http://techrights.org/o/2023/04/28/no-more-microsoft-peripherals/http://techrights.org/o/2023/04/28/no-more-microsoft-peripherals/http://techrights.org/o/2023/04/28/no-more-microsoft-peripherals/
[17:55]	TR Bot	( status 404 @ http://techrights.org/o/2023/04/28/no-more-microsoft-peripherals/http://techrights.org/o/2023/04/28/no-more-microsoft-peripherals/http://techrights.org/o/2023/04/28/no-more-microsoft-peripherals/ )
[17:56]	schestowitz[TR2]	http://techrights.org/o/2023/04/28/no-more-microsoft-peripherals/
[17:56]	TR Bot	 No More Microsoft-Branded Peripherals After the Massive Layoffs
[17:56]	schestowitz[TR2]	MinceR: iirc they make in china
[17:56]	schestowitz[TR2]	the original nokias were made in fi or china
[17:56]	schestowitz[TR2]	often finland
[17:56]	schestowitz[TR2]	they just repurpose the brand now
[17:57]	MinceR	way too much stuff is made in communist china
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[17:58]	MinceR	people value cheap products over safety, security, freedom and quality
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[18:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	soounds like a ben franklin quote
[18:03]	TR News	From Knobs to Pixels: UI Patent Eligibility on Trial https://patentlyo.com/patent/2024/09/pixels-patent-eligibility.html
[18:03]	TR Bot	 From Knobs to Pixels: UI Patent Eligibility on Trial | Patently-O
[18:04]	TR News	3D Printering https://hackaday.com/2024/09/04/3d-printering-switch-and-klipper/ | Source: Hackaday
[18:04]	TR Bot	Printering: Switch And Klip(per) | Hackaday
[18:06]	TR News	"Of course, it has to be a lot more robust than your average finger-operated keyboard, so building a keyboard into an existing footstool is a great idea." https://hackaday.com/2024/09/04/floorboard-is-a-keyboard-for-your-feet/ | Source: Hackaday
[18:06]	TR Bot	Is A Keyboard For Your Feet | Hackaday
[18:10]	TR News	getting a bit racist there in IBM comments? "Indians Managers are id--ts. Full of credentials, never worked a real job" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1ul4zgyG
[18:10]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1ul4zgyG )
[18:12]	TR News	Tech layoffs: Intel, Cisco, IBM https://www.hindustantimes.com/business/tech-layoffs-intel-cisco-ibm-and-apple-cut-over-27-000-jobs-in-august-101725532972247.html
[18:12]	TR Bot	 Tech layoffs: Intel, Cisco, IBM and Apple cut over 27,000 jobs in August - Hindustan Times
[18:13]	TR News	" IBM, and ByteDance are also cutting jobs, highlighting broader instability." https://finimize.com/content/china-aims-to-balance-job-protection-and-tech-innovation
[18:13]	TR Bot	Aims To Balance Job Protection And Tech Innovation - Finimize
[18:15]	TR News	"[Peter Demchenko] wanted to use a low power TS555 in an ESR meter design." https://hackaday.com/2024/09/04/humble-555-gets-a-boost-for-esr-meter/ | Source: Hackaday
[18:15]	TR Bot	555 Gets A Boost For ESR Meter | Hackaday
[18:19]	TR News	Fake Drugs Proliferate Amid Lack of Regulations https://adf-magazine.com/2024/09/fake-drugs-proliferate-amid-lack-of-regulations/
[18:19]	TR Bot	 Fake Drugs Proliferate Amid Lack of Regulations - Africa Defense Forum
[18:20]	TR News	Brightness controls for all your displays https://blogs.kde.org/2024/09/04/brightness-controls-for-all-your-displays/
[18:20]	TR Bot	 Brightness controls for all your displays - KDE Blogs
[18:23]	TR News	Seven stable kernel updates for Wednesday https://lwn.net/Articles/988747/
[18:23]	TR Bot	stable kernel updates for Wednesday [LWN.net]
[18:27]		liberty_box libertybox2_ libertybox2__ libertybox2___ libredev logbackup lxo 
[18:27]	schestowitz[TR2]	hi lxo 
[18:27]	schestowitz[TR2]	see 2 prior mentions  before
[18:27]	schestowitz[TR2]	2 relevant links
[18:27]	schestowitz[TR2]	at your time of convenient
[18:27]	schestowitz[TR2]	sometone responded to you also
[18:27]	schestowitz[TR2]	and i am relaying it to here:
[18:27]	schestowitz[TR2]	"<li><h5><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/04/world/europe/russia-attack-ukraine-lviv.html">Russia Strikes Ukraine, Killing 7 in Lviv, Local Authorities Report</a></h5><blockquote>Russia attacked a number of cities a day after a devastating strike in the countrys east, Ukrainian officials said.</blockquote></li> 
[18:27]	schestowitz[TR2]	"
[18:27]	TR Bot	 Russia Strikes Ukraine, Killing 7 in Lviv, Local Authorities Report - The New York Times
[18:28]	schestowitz[TR2]	sorry, wrong paste
[18:28]	schestowitz[TR2]	"""""
[18:28]	schestowitz[TR2]	04:08:44 lxo; IIUC, the threat model is that Let's Encrypt would be asked/ordered to                       
[18:28]	schestowitz[TR2]	         pull the plug on certain undesirable web sites, and they'd have to fall back to self-signed                              
[18:28]	schestowitz[TR2]	         certificates
[18:28]	schestowitz[TR2]	"""
[18:28]	schestowitz[TR2]	^ which is very significant since chromium-based browsers block / do not accept
[18:28]	schestowitz[TR2]	self-signed certificates and mozilla-based browser throw up a lot of barriers
[18:28]	schestowitz[TR2]	starting with nasty warnings.  Then there are all the web libraries in 
[18:28]	schestowitz[TR2]	Python and other languages which need significant, per-site work-arounds
[18:28]	schestowitz[TR2]	to access sites with self-signed certificates.
[18:28]	schestowitz[TR2]	An important bit of administrivia: the certificiate is not signing itself.
[18:28]	schestowitz[TR2]	It is the individual, business, or organization which is itself doing the
[18:28]	schestowitz[TR2]	signing of the certificate.  That is the site owner is vouching for the
[18:28]	schestowitz[TR2]	site and when put in that light, the blocking of self-signed certificates
[18:28]	schestowitz[TR2]	can be seen to be very clearly about control and power over who publishes
[18:28]	schestowitz[TR2]	what online.  
[18:28]	schestowitz[TR2]	* I see the rest of the scroll back now, much of the above was already mentioned
[18:28]	schestowitz[TR2]	"
[18:30]	schestowitz[TR2]	*at your time of convenience
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[18:33]	TR News	"Mommy, I want to go to the zoo, to observe some of the zoo animals, maybe we can rescue some of them." "Mommy, I am going to join Microsoft, I will change if from within, I will help it make more money." Microsoft is a jail for society.
[18:35]	TR News	LESLIE LAMPORT of LaTeX sold out to Microsoft, chooses the worst possible site hosting https://lamport.azurewebsites.net/ see "Rejected by The American Mathematical Monthly and the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (December 2023)." https://lamport.azurewebsites.net/pubs/pubs.html
[18:35]	TR Bot	 Leslie Lamport's Home Page
[18:35]	TR Bot	 The Writings of Leslie Lamport
[18:35]	TR News	What sort of tech person uses Azure (failure, layoffs, breaches) for site hosting??
[18:36]	TR News	Then again, Microsoft poaching him ensured LaTeX would not improve or would barely improve. Seems it was just more about killing the competition. Like the time they hired the head of Gentoo and then spewed him out....
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[18:50]	TR News	FT CEO John Ridding on three moments that changed everything and whats next https://pressgazette.co.uk/publishers/nationals/ft-ceo-john-ridding-paywalls-young-audiences-ai/
[18:50]	TR Bot	 FT CEO John Riddings 'three moments' that changed everything - Press Gazette
[18:50]	TR News	News media job cuts 2024 tracked: Gannett, Time, Axios, Tampa Bay Times, NYPR and Hollywood Reporter all hit in August https://pressgazette.co.uk/publishers/journalism-job-cuts-2024/
[18:50]	TR Bot	 Journalism industry job cuts 2024 tracked in up-to-date list - Press Gazette
[18:52]	TR News	Asana is just some proprietary junk, a 'webapp' that does nothing of use https://siliconangle.com/2024/09/03/asanas-revenue-outlook-falls-short-shares-decline-13/
[18:52]	TR Bot	revenue outlook falls short as shares decline 13% - SiliconANGLE
[18:54]	TR News	Nvidia faces increased antitrust pressure as Justice Department sends subpoena requests https://siliconangle.com/2024/09/03/nvidia-faces-increased-antitrust-pressure-justice-department-sends-subpoena-requests/
[18:54]	TR Bot	faces increased antitrust pressure as Justice Department sends subpoena requests - SiliconANGLE
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[19:04]	TR News	Telegram investigated in South Korea over surge of sexual deepfake content https://siliconangle.com/2024/09/03/telegram-investigated-south-korea-surge-sexual-deepfake-content/
[19:04]	TR Bot	investigated in South Korea over surge of sexual deepfake content - SiliconANGLE
[19:07]	TR News	Fakecoins company https://siliconangle.com/2024/09/04/couchbases-stock-crumbles-anticipation-significant-growth-slowdown/
[19:07]	TR Bot	stock crumbles on anticipation of significant growth slowdown - SiliconANGLE
[19:12]	TR News	Canadian mega landlord using Hey Hi (AI) pricing scheme as it massively hikes rents https://breachmedia.ca/canadian-mega-landlord-ai-pricing-scheme-hikes-rents/
[19:12]	TR Bot	 Canadian mega landlord using AI pricing scheme as it massively hikes rents The Breach
[19:13]	TR News	MEGAsync Forensics and Intrusion Attribution https://blog.nviso.eu/2024/09/04/megasync-forensics-and-intrusion-attribution/
[19:13]	TR Bot	 MEGAsync Forensics and Intrusion Attribution NVISO Labs
[19:13]	TR News	education costs surge https://bianet.org/haber/turkey-s-inflation-rate-slows-in-august-education-costs-surge-299263
[19:13]	TR Bot	 Turkey's inflation rate slows in August, education costs surge
[19:14]	TR News	What is Spamouflage? How a Chinese firm uses fake accounts to confuse US voters. https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2024/0904/china-Spamouflage-US-elections
[19:14]	TR Bot	politics: Chinese Spamouflage accounts spread disinformation to voters - CSMonitor.com
[19:15]	TR News	Musician Indicted Over Years-Long Streaming Fraud Scheme After Allegedly Making Over $10 Million on Hey Hi (AI) Tracks https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2024/09/04/music-streaming-fraud-indictment-september-2024/
[19:15]	TR Bot	( status 520 @ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2024/09/04/music-streaming-fraud-indictment-september-2024/ )
[19:15]	TR News	Elon Musks Starlink Agrees to Block the X Social Network in Brazil https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/03/world/americas/brazil-starlink-elon-musk-x.html
[19:15]	TR Bot	 Elon Musks Starlink Agrees to Block the X Social Network in Brazil - The New York Times
[19:16]	TR News	Sanding UI https://blog.jim-nielsen.com/2024/sanding-ui/
[19:16]	TR Bot	 Sanding UI - Jim Nielsens Blog
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[19:17]	TR News	Second Circuit Decision Limiting Book Lending Harms Libraries, Public https://publicknowledge.org/second-circuit-decision-limiting-book-lending-harms-libraries-public/
[19:17]	TR Bot	 Second Circuit Decision Limiting Book Lending Harms Libraries, Public - Public Knowledge
[19:18]	TR News	Wanderlust lands gifted Vietnamese student in trouble with police https://www.rfa.org/english/news/vietnam/student-facebook-study-australia-09042024001238.html
[19:18]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.rfa.org/english/news/vietnam/student-facebook-study-australia-09042024001238.html )
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[19:20]		*techrights-news (~techrights-news@m93jam5swqfas.irc) has joined #techrights
[19:20]	TR News	 (NEW):  LibreOffice 24.2.6 available for download, for the privacy-conscious user https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/05/LibreOffice_24_2_6_available_for_download_for_the_privacy_consc.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/05/LibreOffice_24_2_6_available_for_download_for_the_privacy_consc.gmi 
[19:20]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines LibreOffice 24.2.6 available for download, for the privacy-conscious user
[19:20]	TR News	Dirk Eddelbuettel: RcppCNPy 0.2.13 on CRAN: Micro Bugfix http://dirk.eddelbuettel.com/blog/2024/09/03#rcppcnpy_0.2.13
[19:20]	TR Bot	 Thinking inside the box
[19:21]	TR News	The Worsening Raspberry Pi RP2350 E9 Erratum Situation https://hackaday.com/2024/09/04/the-worsening-raspberry-pi-rp2350-e9-erratum-situation/ | Source: Hackaday
[19:21]	TR Bot	Worsening Raspberry Pi RP2350 E9 Erratum Situation | Hackaday
[19:23]	TR News	Antiquities of Mexico (183148) https://publicdomainreview.org/collection/antiquities-of-mexico
[19:23]	TR Bot	 *Antiquities of Mexico* (183148) The Public Domain Review
[19:23]	TR News	 (NEW):  weston 14.0.0 https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/05/weston_14_0_0.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/05/weston_14_0_0.gmi 
[19:23]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines weston 14.0.0
[19:24]	TR News	FBI: North Korea Aggressively Hacking Cryptocurrency Firms https://www.securityweek.com/fbi-north-korea-aggressively-hacking-cryptocurrency-firms/
[19:24]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.securityweek.com/fbi-north-korea-aggressively-hacking-cryptocurrency-firms/ )
[19:24]	TR News	Zyxel Patches Critical Vulnerabilities in Networking Devices https://www.securityweek.com/zyxel-patches-critical-vulnerabilities-in-networking-devices/
[19:24]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.securityweek.com/zyxel-patches-critical-vulnerabilities-in-networking-devices/ )
[19:24]	TR News	D-Link Warns of Code Execution Flaws in Discontinued Router Model https://www.securityweek.com/d-link-warns-of-code-execution-flaws-in-discontinued-router-model/
[19:24]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.securityweek.com/d-link-warns-of-code-execution-flaws-in-discontinued-router-model/ )
[19:25]		*MinceR` is now known as lightbringer
[19:26]	TR News	Murdoch rag urges sanctions on Hong Kong leaders after journalist convictions; security chief decries fact-twisting https://hongkongfp.com/2024/09/05/wsj-urges-sanctions-on-hong-kong-leaders-after-journalist-convictions-security-chief-decries-fact-twisting/
[19:26]	TR Bot	 WSJ urges sanctions over HK journalist convictions; gov't hits back
[19:27]	TR News	Older YubiKeys compromised by unpatchable 2FA bug side-channel attack is critical, but expensive and difficult to execute https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/cyber-security/older-yubikeys-compromised-by-unpatchable-2fa-bug-side-channel-attack-is-critical-but-expensive-and-difficult-to-execute
[19:27]	TR Bot	 Older YubiKeys compromised by unpatchable 2FA bug side-channel attack is critical, but expensive and difficult to execute | Tom's Hardware
[19:31]	TR News	Biden Expected to Block U.S. Steel Takeover by Nippon https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/04/us/politics/biden-us-steel-nippon.html
[19:31]	TR Bot	 Biden Expected to Block U.S. Steel Takeover by Nippon - The New York Times
[19:32]	TR News	 (NEW):  What Is Kali Linux, and Should You Use It? https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/05/What_Is_Kali_Linux_and_Should_You_Use_It.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/05/What_Is_Kali_Linux_and_Should_You_Use_It.gmi 
[19:32]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines What Is Kali Linux, and Should You Use It?
[19:33]	TR News	 (NEW):  Ubuntu 24.10 Default Wallpaper & Mascot Revealed https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/05/Ubuntu_24_10_Default_Wallpaper_Mascot_Revealed.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/05/Ubuntu_24_10_Default_Wallpaper_Mascot_Revealed.gmi 
[19:33]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Ubuntu 24.10 Default Wallpaper & Mascot Revealed
[19:34]	TR News	Bubble popping https://siliconangle.com/2024/09/04/c3-ai-fails-make-progress-profitability-stock-plummets/
[19:34]	TR Bot	AI fails to make progress on profitability and its stock plummets - SiliconANGLE
[19:35]	lxo	schestowitz[TR2], so, yeah, centralized CA system bad, TLS implementations' rejecting self-signed certs bad.  the part that seems weird to me is the apparent conclusion that LE is to blame.  given these trends of excluding self-signed certs, not having LE would require people to go for CA's services.  I don't see how that would be good or help fix the problems
[19:35]	TR News	New defective chip maker Intel chip production process reportedly underperformed in Broadcom test https://siliconangle.com/2024/09/04/new-intel-chip-production-process-reportedly-underperformed-broadcom-test/
[19:35]	TR Bot	Intel chip production process reportedly underperformed in Broadcom test - SiliconANGLE
[19:36]		liberty_box libertybox2_ libertybox2__ libertybox2___ libredev lightbringer logbackup lxo 
[19:36]	schestowitz[TR2]	lxo: no, it's not like that
[19:36]	schestowitz[TR2]	LE makes it "free"
[19:36]	schestowitz[TR2]	not "cheap"
[19:36]	schestowitz[TR2]	but it's not free
[19:36]	schestowitz[TR2]	someone pays the bill
[19:36]	lxo	ISTM you're focusing your dissatisfaction with the situation on a symptom/workaround rather than on the root causes.  that line of argumentation doesn't seem to work for me
[19:36]	schestowitz[TR2]	I checked their IRS filings
[19:36]	schestowitz[TR2]	and you see who pays
[19:36]	schestowitz[TR2]	the end goal it to eradicate http
[19:36]	schestowitz[TR2]	so they can block it or phase it out
[19:37]	schestowitz[TR2]	plus, outsourcing mandated
[19:37]	schestowitz[TR2]	by btowsers
[19:39]	TR News	Nvidia denies it got subpoena from the U.S. DOJ in Hey Hi (AI) antitrust investigation https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intelligence/nvidia-denies-it-got-subpoena-from-the-us-doj-in-ai-antitrust-investigation
[19:39]	TR Bot	 Nvidia denies it got subpoena from the U.S. DOJ in AI antitrust investigation | Tom's Hardware
[19:40]	TR News	Intel announces cancellation of 20A process node for Arrow Lake, goes with external nodes instead, likely TSMC https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/intel-scraps-18a-process-for-arrow-lake-goes-with-external-nodes-likely-tsmc
[19:40]	TR Bot	 Intel announces cancellation of 20A process node for Arrow Lake, goes with external nodes instead, likely TSMC [Updated] | Tom's Hardware
[19:41]	TR News	TTABlog Test: Are Mascara and Clothing Related for Section 2(d) Purposes? http://thettablog.blogspot.com/2024/09/ttablog-test-are-mascara-and-clothing.html
[19:41]	TR Bot	 The TTABlog: TTABlog Test: Are Mascara and Clothing Related for Section 2(d) Purposes?
[19:44]	TR News	Tellico 4.0 Released https://tellico-project.org/tellico-4-0-released/
[19:44]	TR Bot	 Tellico 4.0 Released Tellico
[19:47]	TR News	Tellico 4.0 released https://lwn.net/Articles/988837/
[19:47]	TR Bot	4.0 released [LWN.net]
[19:47]	TR News	 (NEW):  Tellico 4.0 Released https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/04/Tellico_4_0_Released.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/04/Tellico_4_0_Released.gmi 
[19:47]	TR News	 (NEW):   : Google Android Leftovers https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/05/Android_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/05/Android_Leftovers.1.gmi 
[19:47]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Tellico 4.0 Released
[19:47]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Android Leftovers
[19:47]	lxo	http shouldn't be thrown away, I agree.  it's useful wherever privacy is of no concern.  but for most things web, privacy *is* a concern, and abuse of http has been toxic and growing.  self-signing certs would enable ISPs to MitM and do just the same kind of toxic abuse they do with http, pretty much like some banking malware, smartphone data-compressing proxies and evil governments do.  LE goes with the centralized CA flow, but it also enables servers 
[19:47]	lxo	to offer service to privacy-aware users
[19:47]	TR News	WH launches cyber hiring sprint to fill open tech roles https://federalnewsnetwork.com/cybersecurity/2024/09/wh-launches-cyber-hiring-sprint-to-fill-open-tech-roles/
[19:47]	TR Bot	 WH launches cyber hiring sprint to fill open tech roles
[19:49]	TR News	Bluetooth 6.0 features accurate two-way ranging using Channel Sounding, latency reduction, improved scanning efficiency, and more https://www.cnx-software.com/2024/09/04/bluetooth-6-0-features-accurate-two-way-ranging-using-channel-sounding-latency-reduction-improved-scanning-efficiency-and-more/
[19:49]	TR Bot	 Bluetooth 6.0 features accurate two-way ranging using Channel Sounding, latency reduction, improved scanning efficiency, and more - CNX Software
[19:49]	TR News	Laos detains duo over comical pothole fishing video https://www.rfa.org/english/news/laos/laos-potholes-video-arrest-09042024142015.html
[19:49]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.rfa.org/english/news/laos/laos-potholes-video-arrest-09042024142015.html )
[19:50]	TR News	Security Researcher Sued for Disproving Government Statements https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2024/09/security-researcher-sued-for-disproving-government-statements.html
[19:50]	TR Bot	Researcher Sued for Disproving Government Statements - Schneier on Security
[19:51]	TR News	"wrote in a Facebook (Farcebook) post" https://hongkongfp.com/2024/09/04/hong-kong-prisoners-rights-group-suspends-sales-of-mooncakes-after-frequent-govt-inspections/
[19:51]	TR Bot	 HK prisoners' rights group halts mooncake sales after gov't inspections
[19:52]	TR News	Acers New Steam Deck Competitor Has 1 Major Flaw, 1 Strong Advantage https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2024/09/04/acer-reveals-a-steam-deck-competitor-no-one-asked-for/
[19:52]	TR Bot	 Acer's Poorly Named Nitro Blaze 7 Has One Good Thing Going For It
[19:53]	TR News	KDE Dolphin cannot compress compressed files https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/plasma-dolphin-compression.html
[19:53]	TR Bot	 KDE Dolphin cannot compress compressed files
[19:53]	TR News	Mozilla Thunderbird: Thunderbird Monthly Development Digest: August 2024 https://blog.thunderbird.net/2024/09/thunderbird-monthly-developer-digest-august-2024/
[19:53]	TR Bot	 Thunderbird Monthly Development Digest: August 2024 - The Thunderbird Blog
[19:54]	TR News	Breaking: Trump Campaign Moves to Postpone Deposition on Isaac Hayes Infringement Litigation https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2024/09/04/trump-campaign-isaac-hayes-deposition/
[19:54]	TR Bot	( status 520 @ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2024/09/04/trump-campaign-isaac-hayes-deposition/ )
[19:55]	TR News	Russia Imprisons Top Physicists, Even as Putin Touts Their Technology https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/04/world/europe/russia-imprisons-top-scientists.html
[19:55]	TR Bot	 Russia Imprisons Top Physicists, Even as Putin Touts Their Technology - The New York Times
[19:56]	TR News	Minisforum UM760 Slim Offers Dual M.2 PCIe 4.0 Slots and DDR5 Memory Support https://linuxgizmos.com/minisforum-um760-slim-offers-dual-m-2-pcie-4-0-slots-and-ddr5-memory-support/
[19:56]	TR Bot	( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/minisforum-um760-slim-offers-dual-m-2-pcie-4-0-slots-and-ddr5-memory-support/ )
[19:57]	TR News	[Podcast] The APNIC Labs measurement system https://blog.apnic.net/2024/09/05/podcast-the-apnic-labs-measurement-system/
[19:57]	TR Bot	 [Podcast] The APNIC Labs' measurement system | APNIC Blog
[19:58]	TR News	Hong Kong appeals court overturns media watchdogs 2020 warning that RTHK show insulted police https://hongkongfp.com/2024/09/04/hong-kong-appeals-court-overturns-media-watchdogs-2020-warning-that-rthk-show-insulted-police/
[19:58]	TR Bot	 HK court overturns media watchdog warning that RTHK show 'insulted' police
[19:59]	TR News	"This week Jonathan Bennett chats with Lori Lorusso and Steve Hoffman, the Head of Community and SVP of engineering at Percona, the open source database experts." https://hackaday.com/2024/09/04/floss-weekly-episode-799-still-open-source-at-percona/ | Source: Hackaday
[19:59]	TR Bot	Weekly Episode 799: Still Open Source At Percona | Hackaday
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[20:00]	TR News	Android at 78% in India, backdoored Windows at All-Time Low, As Mobile Ownership Grows https://techrights.org/n/2024/09/03/Android_at_78_in_India_Windows_at_All_Time_Low_As_Mobile_Owners.shtml
[20:01]	TR Bot	 Techrights Android at 78% in India, Windows at All-Time Low, As Mobile Ownership Grows
[20:01]	TR News	How much RAM does your smartphone need? https://www.fairphone.com/en/2024/09/04/how-much-ram-does-your-smartphone-need/
[20:01]	TR Bot	much RAM does your smartphone need? - Fairphone
[20:01]	MinceR	it needs all the RAM
[20:02]	MinceR	just like everything we browse the web on
[20:02]	TR News	Smartphone use in cars not always very smart https://eng.lsm.lv/article/economy/transport/04.09.2024-smartphone-use-in-cars-not-always-very-smart.a567445/
[20:02]	TR Bot	 Smartphone use in cars not always very smart / Article
[20:02]	MinceR	pretty sure it's smarter than buying maps for the satnav system built into the infotainment system and using that
[20:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	<MinceR> it needs all the RAM
[20:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	u was gonna say the same
[20:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	(i
[20:04]	TR News	"Thanks to the efforts of Murray R. Van Luyn and countless Linux developers, the popular H96 Max Android TV box can now run an Armbian Ubuntu 22.04 installation. The full process is now available for users to try." https://www.notebookcheck.net/Android-TV-Box-gets-unofficial-Ubuntu-24-04-upgrade.884168.0.html
[20:04]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.notebookcheck.net/Android-TV-Box-gets-unofficial-Ubuntu-24-04-upgrade.884168.0.html )
[20:04]	TR News	"Now that power-profiles-daemon is battery-level aware, power drivers like the Intel and AMD P-State drivers can (where supported) adjust power management based on the current battery level value." https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/09/power-profiles-daemon-0-22-in-ubuntu-24-10
[20:04]	TR Bot	 New Version of Power Profiles Daemon Improves AMD Support - OMG! Ubuntu
[20:06]	TR News	"I've held this little space on the smol.pub for a while already, enough to know that, yes, this is working for me, and yes, I like this place. I like both reading the posts in the feed (I read all of them! well, all the ones in English or Spanish), and I like writing my thoughts here, even if I don't do it as often as I sometimes would like to." gemini://detritus.smol.pub/1725555018
[20:07]	TR News	"Oh crap, thanks Youtube, for serving me up more retro-type goodness that I cannot avoid. Al's Geek Lab has a whole series of videos about how those pre-WWW thingies called BBS's are actually still alive and thriving. I will have to explore some more." gemini://skeeter.flounder.online/gemlog/2024-09-05.gmi
[20:08]	TR News	"one can never be intimate with 1000s of people. it's far more easier, personal and intimate to talk like this: in intervals. taking a break from constant sharing and instead being intentional about what you are sharing to a select few people, who are anonymous and who are of similar temperaments." gemini://midnight.pub/posts/2142
[20:11]	TR News	Techrights Gemini Links 05/09/2024: Going Vegan and Internet Office Hours https://techrights.org/n/2024/09/05/Gemini_Links_05_09_2024_Going_Vegan_and_Internet_Office_Hours.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/09/05/Gemini_Links_05_09_2024_Going_Vegan_and_Internet_Office_Hours.gmi 
[20:11]	TR Bot	 Techrights Gemini Links 05/09/2024: Going Vegan and Internet Office Hours
[20:12]	TR News	"The first thing you need is something to run the Klipper host. Most people use a Raspberry Pi and if you already have one that runs OctoPrint, for example, you might well use it. Just tuck your SD card away in case you give up and install a fresh Linux system on a new card." https://hackaday.com/2024/09/04/3d-printering-switch-and-klipper/
[20:12]	TR Bot	Printering: Switch And Klip(per) | Hackaday
[20:13]	TR News	"The image notes it will have official support for Batocera and Armbian, with an "open Linux kernel for community developers"." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2024/09/retroid-pocket-5-and-retroid-pocket-mini-will-have-linux-support/
[20:13]	TR Bot	Pocket 5 and Retroid Pocket Mini will have Linux support | GamingOnLinux
[20:13]	TR News	Red Hat brings its AI-optimized Linux platform to Dells PowerEdge servers https://siliconangle.com/2024/09/04/red-hat-brings-ai-optimized-linux-platform-dells-poweredge-servers/
[20:13]	TR Bot	Hat brings its AI-optimized Linux platform to Dell's PowerEdge servers - SiliconANGLE
[20:14]	TR News	Bad Reasons to Update Your Linux Kernel https://tuxcare.com/blog/5-bad-reasons-to-update-your-linux-kernel/
[20:14]	TR Bot	 Bad Reasons to Update Your Linux Kernel
[20:15]	TR News	Ransomware is predominantly a Windows problem, so this is an effort to distort reality and invent narratives https://www.itprotoday.com/linux-os/linux-ransomware-threats-how-attackers-target-linux-systems
[20:15]	TR Bot	 Linux Ransomware Threats: How Attackers Target Linux Systems
[20:16]	MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/24072911
[20:16]	TR Bot	 WHOOPSIE
[20:16]	TR News	"So why another? Well, SteamFork "is intended to be as close to 1:1 compatible with upstream SteamOS as possible" while making changes to expand the hardware support. So it's not trying to add in tons of extras like Bazzite for example." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2024/09/steamfork-is-yet-another-linux-distribution-aiming-to-be-a-steamos-like-for-handhelds/
[20:16]	TR Bot	is yet another Linux distribution aiming to be a SteamOS-like for handhelds | GamingOnLinux
[20:18]	TR News	Total DELETE https://news.itsfoss.com/windows-11-recall-linux/
[20:18]	TR Bot	 You Can't Remove Windows 11's 'AI' Recall Feature, But You Can Install Linux Instead
[20:18]	MinceR	EXTERMINATE
[20:19]	TR News	"Hence, I thought of writing this tutorial to quickly explain the different kinds of repos Arch Linux offers and how you can enable them." https://itsfoss.com/arch-linux-repos/
[20:19]	TR Bot	 Core, Extra, Multilib? Understand Arch Linux Repositories
[20:19]	TR News	Supercharge Your Command Prompt with Zsh and Oh My Zsh https://www.howtogeek.com/supercharge-your-command-prompt-with-zsh-and-oh-my-zsh/
[20:19]	TR Bot	 Supercharge Your Command Prompt with Zsh and Oh My Zsh
[20:21]	TR News	No, it attacks something else https://gagadget.com/en/499849-new-cicada3301-virus-attacks-windows-and-linux/
[20:21]	TR Bot	 Windows and Linux vulnerable to new Cicada3301 ransomware attack
[20:21]	TR News	"The end of August saw two new point upgrades for Debian fans. The project published updates for two separate releases: one for Bookworm in the form of Debian 12.7, and, on the same day, the last for Bullseye with Debian 11.11." https://www.theregister.com/2024/09/04/double_debian_update/
[20:21]	TR Bot	 Double Debian update: 11.11 and 12.7 arrive at once The Register
[20:23]	TR News	Microsoft throwing tantrum at Tso AGAIN https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/09/rust-in-linux-lead-retires-rather-than-deal-with-more-nontechnical-nonsense/ see https://techrights.org/n/2024/09/03/Probably_Nothing_of_Value_Lost_Just_Another_Tantrum_Thrown.shtml
[20:23]	TR Bot	 Rust in Linux lead retires rather than deal with more nontechnical nonsense | Ars Technica
[20:23]	TR Bot	 Techrights Probably Nothing of Value Lost (Just Another Tantrum Thrown)
[20:24]	TR News	Tso has long antagonised Microsfters inside Linux. They're trying to have a go at him again... merely for stating the truth https://www.webpronews.com/rust-for-linux-maintainer-calls-it-quits-over-project-drama/
[20:24]	TR Bot	 Rust for Linux Maintainer Calls It Quits Over Project Drama
[20:25]	TR News	Trying to twist high profile Windows incidents as something "Linux" https://www.notebookcheck.net/Windows-and-Linux-vulnerable-to-oddly-familiar-Cicada3301-ransomware.883642.0.html
[20:25]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.notebookcheck.net/Windows-and-Linux-vulnerable-to-oddly-familiar-Cicada3301-ransomware.883642.0.html )
[20:29]	TR News	 (NEW):  Security and Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt (FUD) About Linux https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/05/Security_and_Fear_Uncertainty_Doubt_FUD_About_Linux.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/05/Security_and_Fear_Uncertainty_Doubt_FUD_About_Linux.gmi 
[20:29]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Security and Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt (FUD) About Linux
[20:30]	TR News	 (NEW):  Red Hat Drapes Itself in "AI" Hype https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/05/Red_Hat_Drapes_Itself_in_AI_Hype.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/05/Red_Hat_Drapes_Itself_in_AI_Hype.gmi 
[20:30]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Red Hat Drapes Itself in "AI" Hype
[20:30]		*Received a CTCP VERSION from Harambe
[20:32]	TR News	 (NEW):  Free Software Leftovers https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/05/Free_Software_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/05/Free_Software_Leftovers.gmi 
[20:32]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Free Software Leftovers
[20:34]	TR News	 (NEW):  FreeBSD Leftovers https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/05/FreeBSD_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/05/FreeBSD_Leftovers.gmi 
[20:34]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines FreeBSD Leftovers
[20:34]	TR News	 (NEW):   Programming Leftovers https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/05/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/05/Programming_Leftovers.gmi 
[20:34]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Programming Leftovers
[20:35]	TR News	 (NEW):  KDE: Python bindings for KDE Frameworks and brightness controls for all your displays https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/05/KDE_Python_bindings_for_KDE_Frameworks_and_brightness_controls_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/05/KDE_Python_bindings_for_KDE_Frameworks_and_brightness_controls_.gmi 
[20:35]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines KDE: Python bindings for KDE Frameworks and brightness controls for all your displays
[20:37]	TR News	 (NEW):  Games: Review on GNU/Linux and Another Steam Deck Competitor https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/05/Games_Review_on_GNU_Linux_and_Another_Steam_Deck_Competitor.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/05/Games_Review_on_GNU_Linux_and_Another_Steam_Deck_Competitor.gmi 
[20:37]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Games: Review on GNU/Linux and Another Steam Deck Competitor
[20:37]	TR News	 (NEW):  Open Hardware: Raspberry Pi, Fairphone, and More https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/05/Open_Hardware_Raspberry_Pi_Fairphone_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/05/Open_Hardware_Raspberry_Pi_Fairphone_and_More.gmi 
[20:37]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Open Hardware: Raspberry Pi, Fairphone, and More
[20:39]	TR News	 (NEW):  Standards/Consortia Leftovers https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/05/Standards_Consortia_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/05/Standards_Consortia_Leftovers.gmi 
[20:39]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Standards/Consortia Leftovers
[20:42]	TR News	 (NEW):  Openwashing Initiative (OSI) and 'Linux' Foundation https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/05/Openwashing_Initiative_OSI_and_Linux_Foundation.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/05/Openwashing_Initiative_OSI_and_Linux_Foundation.gmi 
[20:42]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Openwashing Initiative (OSI) and 'Linux' Foundation
[20:44]	TR News	 (NEW):  Today's Leftovers https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/05/today_s_leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/05/today_s_leftovers.gmi 
[20:44]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines today's leftovers
[20:46]	TR News	Techrights Links 05/09/2024: Starlink to Block Twitter (X) in Brazil, Ukraine Government Shake-Up https://techrights.org/n/2024/09/05/Links_05_09_2024_Starlink_to_Block_Twitter_X_in_Brazil_Ukraine_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/09/05/Links_05_09_2024_Starlink_to_Block_Twitter_X_in_Brazil_Ukraine_.gmi 
[20:46]	TR Bot	 Techrights Links 05/09/2024: Starlink to Block Twitter (X) in Brazil, Ukraine Government Shake-Up
● Sep 05
[21:25]	MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/24072742
[21:25]	TR Bot	 WHOOPSIE
● Sep 05
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[22:54]	IsambardPrince	schestowitz[TR2], Had another door lock go out.
[22:55]	IsambardPrince	These things are a pain in the ass.
[22:55]	IsambardPrince	I'm not going to replace the one for the driver door unless it actually goes.
[22:55]	IsambardPrince	But that's now the only one that has not failed.
[22:55]	IsambardPrince	The parts store says they can get me the one that just went out for $103 and it'll be in on the 9th.
[22:58]	MinceR	https://live.staticflickr.com/3843/14475306220_1c9d3c48fe_b.jpg
[22:58]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://live.staticflickr.com/3843/14475306220_1c9d3c48fe_b.jpg )
[22:59]	IsambardPrince	The Japanese will get US Steel eventually.
[22:59]	IsambardPrince	Just not during an election year.
[22:59]	IsambardPrince	I'm not sure why we don't want them to get USX, it's in a lot of trouble. It's mismanaged very badly.
● Sep 05
[23:00]	IsambardPrince	It needs some Japanese management culture to get things moving again.
[23:00]	IsambardPrince	And making the workplace good enough that most people don't even want a union despite some agitators.
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[23:20]	MinceR	(cat) https://imgur.com/gallery/RkY0e4m   =   https://rimgo.pussthecat.org/gallery/RkY0e4m
[23:20]	TR Bot	- Album on Imgur
[23:20]	TR Bot	 sup? - rimgo